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Features 'Removed' from Vista That Were in Windows XP

en.wikipedia.org — While Windows Vista contains many new features, a number of capabilities and certain programs that were a part of Windows XP are no longer present or changed, resulting in the removal of certain functionality. The following is a list of features which were present in Windows XP but which have been removed in Windows Vista.

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  • Carbonlord, on 07/21/2008, -117/+106They missed the feature called "Stability"
    • poprocksandsoda, on 07/21/2008, -20/+92Actually Vista has been incredible for stability and I'm a power user. I think the real problem with Vista is simply bloat; it tries to be too many things for too many people. I've been considering running Windows Server 2008 as a desktop OS based on lots of good feedback from people.

      http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/
      • Sedako, on 07/22/2008, -9/+22Seriously, I've been using Vista 64-bit since SP1, and I've not had any unexpected system freezes or blue screens. At this point, any jabs about Vista's supposed instabilities are most likely from people that have never used the OS beyond SP1.
      • specialK16, on 07/22/2008, -5/+9I said it once some months ago. I never had a blue screen with Vista, except when I had that old graphic card and I was trying to force a newer driver version so I could run Aero. Other than that, nope, no blue screens at all. But there were a couple of deal breakers for me: Windows Mobile Device Center was the worst piece of crap ever made, incompatibly, unstable and 100% unreliable (although I read somewhere that you could do some sync with an XP machine first, then with Vista because apparently there was some ownership bug that caused some kind of mess), and a problem I had with WMP, running at 100%, never knew why.

        Other than that, I must say Vista was fine even on my old machine. (Oh, and I had to switch to XP because the crack of Trackmania Sunrise wasn't compatible with Vista also).
      • svensko, on 07/22/2008, -7/+7POWER USER
      • poprocksandsoda, on 07/22/2008, -13/+7When I say power User I refer to the fact I'm running Ultimate 64-Bit with 8 GB RAM, Quad NVidia SLI, Quad Core Overclocked, etc. etc. I run everything from Cakewalk Sonar for my music hobby to Virtualization Solutions in the Guest OS for my work-related sandbox of development VMs. I'd certainly say that's power user compared to uncle bob running IE to email the family.
      • Valiantheart, on 07/22/2008, -3/+2Vista is more stable than XP, but it still crashes quite often. I have all kinds of trouble with Nvidia drivers causing blue screens.

        I still cant believe in 2008 that Microsoft cannot provide an OS with sufficient error recovery to stop BSDs.
      • MWeather, on 07/22/2008, -2/+3"Seriously, I've been using Vista 64-bit since SP1, and I've not had any unexpected system freezes or blue screens."

        I've never had unexpected system freezes or bluescreens from any version of Windows. I get them all the time, though.
      • 5urr3al5am, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1I've been running Vista a while and only got the bsod once. That was when the damn thing was applying updates, which somehow escaped me until I went to turn it off. The damn thing ran for at least an extra 15 or 20 minutes and rebooted two or three more times, but in the end the bsod went away and has never been heard from since.
      • DarkShroud, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1@Valiantheart, It's not MS's fault that Nvidia still cannot write drivers for an OS they had access to for ever 2 years now. Most of Vista's crashs now are from bad video drivers, most of which are from Nvidia.
    • fpaudon, on 07/22/2008, -34/+18Vista is totally stable. My copy is so stable that sometimes when I open a folder, it takes me to a completely different one altogether
      • jemka, on 07/22/2008, -9/+18At least make up a believable lie.
      • fpaudon, on 07/22/2008, -17/+11If only you knew how serious I was. Somehow, opening one of my schoolwork folders would take me to a bunch of COD4 svg files. Sometimes, explorer completely freezes when I open the folder. I was hoping the problem would be fixed when I downloaded SP1, but it remained the same.

        I don't know if it's a problem unique to me, but it's a problem nonetheless
      • natenovs, on 07/22/2008, -8/+6i've actually had that problem a couple of times. it's a little annoying. also, ive found that sometimes, when i click on an icon in the system tray, it opens a completely different program.
      • natenovs, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2someone care to explain why me and fpaudon got dugg down so much? it's a real bug...
    • thecosmicpope, on 07/22/2008, -8/+34Of all the Vista issues, stability is not one of them.
    • Vegabondsx, on 07/22/2008, -8/+24That was a feature in XP?
    • antoniuk, on 07/22/2008, -14/+6Vista is the new baseline for computer knowledge in the PC world. Can't run Vista without screwing things up? Get a Mac!
    • FireXtol, on 07/22/2008, -2/+8Stability is mostly a matter of good hardware choices running compatible drivers and making wise software decisions. The OS is a much more minor factor than people give it credit for. I'd say the source of major troubles come from: 40% hardware, 40% drivers, without these working, regardless of OS, you're gonna have issues... then there's the remaining 20% left for software(OS included). The sources of common troubles? 40% software choice 40% lack of software choice/customization (common causes: using default applications that come with PC rather than superior alternatives, upgrading for the sake of upgrading, simple ignorance, and lack of testing), 20% other(OS, hardware, drivers, cosmic rays, etc.). Though I feel most people... rather than make PC choices.. want to have their choices made for them(eg. Apple Customers, aka Appliance Computing, hmm Appl'iance'... Appl'e'... Go figure). They see an OS as a means to run applications the 'world' tells/compels them to. And these applications are then massively targeted by malicious *****.
      • MWeather, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2That's why I only use open source drivers. If it's broke, I can fix it, though chances are someone else already did.
  • 1littlescout, on 07/21/2008, -97/+54I one don't see the point of even switching to Vista. I'll better stick to XP.
    • dubbaj, on 07/22/2008, -8/+53I one don't see the point of learnings grammar. I'll better stick to typing this words.
    • harrison5394, on 07/22/2008, -19/+9you can't afford it.
    • FireXtol, on 07/22/2008, -2/+12I still use Windows 2000! "WHAT?!" you say! Yea! Consumers switching to XP is the best ever. Malware writers can stop targeting Windows 2000.
    • fatrandy13, on 07/22/2008, -3/+3unfortunately they will stop supporting XP at some point, and developers will stop developing for XP... if you are a windows user, you are imprisoned by microsoft... learn linux to free yourself..
  • knucklebusted, on 07/21/2008, -81/+75Vista was DOA as far as I'm concerned. They added nothing of interest and merely changed the way it worked to confuse people. No real value and I've found nothing yet that won't run in XP. There is no compelling "got to have" app that only runs in Vista. Plus, Vista is a resource hog and looks like it will only get worse with each service pack.
    • timmyrich, on 07/22/2008, -8/+28I like Vista. As a casual user who is learning more and more, I am continually impressed and have not been disappointed yet. Actually made my local network experience way easier than XP. Just my two cents.
      • MWeather, on 07/22/2008, -3/+3How was your local network experience easier? Usually you just plug in the cord, and DHCP does the rest. You're not plugging your cable/dsl modem directly into your PC are you?
    • bjryder, on 07/22/2008, -14/+16I gave you thumbs up, but there sure are a lot of Vista supporters here. I'm a computer professional and I've seen more customers with Vista problems than with any other, including ME. I'm staying with XP.
      • H0tKarl, on 07/22/2008, -10/+2Me too. I'd say it's second only to Commodore 64 problems.
      • somedirtbag, on 07/22/2008, -4/+6Really? More problems with Vista than ME? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Vista either, but I did more rollbacks to 98SE from ME than to XP from Vista. But look at the bright side: After the ***** that was ME, M$ wised up and gave us 2k. Perhaps we'll get a similar treatment this time around...



        Please?
      • MWeather, on 07/22/2008, -2/+4"Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Vista either, but I did more rollbacks to 98SE from ME than to XP from Vista. "

        That's because people actually installed ME.
    • FireXtol, on 07/22/2008, -5/+8Windows 2000 runs on a 133 Mhz CPU with 32 MB of RAM. Which makes Windows 95 system requirements look paltry. And makes Vista or OS X's requirements seem comical. Gotta justify upgrades, though, right?!
    • davdev, on 07/22/2008, -1/+12If you run an HTPC, Vista's media center is vastly superior to XP's.
    • Zlorp, on 07/22/2008, -3/+3im never coming to this website again after seeing the comments on this article. seems to me like a bunch of you are embarassed that you have a computer with such a ***** OS, and so you defend it because you're too ignorant to know how to get rid of it
  • KnightCrawler, on 07/21/2008, -45/+145I use it to with 6GB of memory and it's like a kitten with a ball of yarn. :)
    • cowsgonemadd3, on 07/22/2008, -26/+8One expensive ball of yarn. If XP could handle 6gb(I think with mods it can?) it would be awesome!
      • Sedako, on 07/22/2008, -6/+362GB of DDR2 can be had for as cheap as $20 after rebate. I don't see how that's expensive.
      • Sedako, on 07/22/2008, -3/+33For those burying me, a 2GB kit of OCZ DDR2 800 for 20$ after rebate:

        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
      • Data33, on 07/22/2008, -5/+24I'm pretty sure no 32-bit OS can handle more than 4GB of RAM with or without mods. Of course, if you run 64-bit XP you can handle a lot more RAM than 6 GB.
      • KMartSheriff, on 07/22/2008, -17/+3Data33:

        No *****, Sherlock. And what idiot would use mods on their 32-bit OS if they had more than 4 GB of RAM?
      • cutchyacokov, on 07/22/2008, -1/+9@Data33 32bit version of Linux have been able to use up to 64GB of ram for years, although this wasn't enabled in the kernel by default in most distros until more recently. See this post from 2003:

        http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/1568 ...
      • FireXtol, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Intel created a technology called PAE(physical address extension). Over 4 GB of RAM has long been available on 32 bit Pentium Pro and select AMD processors(allowing upto 64 GB).
      • somedirtbag, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1@FireXtol: They seem to be discussing OS's, not hardware.
      • schnikies79, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2@FireXtol

        The processor/bus can access it, but the OS (32bit xp/vista) cannot.
      • Elranzer, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6Windows XP 64-bit can handle your 4GB+ of RAM. That removes that argument in Vista's favor.
      • jpaolini, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3However the lack of stable drivers for XP 64-bit make Vista look quite a bit better if you have lots of RAM. I run Vista x64 and it's fast and stable - not sure why people complain so much.

        Also, it's 4GB of total addressable memory with a 32-bit OS. This means your graphics RAM will be subtracted from your system RAM. A 512MB GPU installed in your system, for example, will yield only 3.5GB of your 4GB system RAM usable.
    • carlosauresrex, on 07/22/2008, -13/+55wait, i don't get it, does that mean it's fast? or slow, because I know some pretty retarded kittens.
    • aywwts4, on 07/22/2008, -14/+22XP can, its called 64 bit XP, No 32 bit OS can address more than 4 gigs of ram, and after the reservations the system makes for other things, it equals somewhat over 3 gigs of ram. It's basically the one and only reason to switch to a 64 bit os.
      • KMartSheriff, on 07/22/2008, -12/+42XP 64 is a joke. Even the biggest Windows fanboy would admit that. If you'd seriously choose XP 64 over Vista 64, then it's clear you're just being closed-minded & ignorant.
      • aywwts4, on 07/22/2008, -3/+11I think the main reason it would be considered "a joke" is the completely spartan lack of driver support, which 64 bit vista was up until very recently also suffering from.

        I'm running 64 bit vista right now, the reason I hate that is the "Unsigned 64-bit kernel-mode device drivers can no longer be installed" problem. Which I finally managed to get disabled after about 10 hours of work. My system now boots up in developer "test mode" forever, and my drivers work.
      • Tenoq, on 07/22/2008, -2/+9@ aywwts4

        Rather than also going through 10 hours work, could you give us a summary or link to the process of booting into developer mode for 64-bit Vista? Being able to use unsigned drivers is fairly important, because I don't always want to use hardware from companies that can afford Microsoft-certification-tax on every device they develop.
      • petard, on 07/22/2008, -7/+510 hours? Seriously? A quick google search can show you how to do it in 5 minutes.
      • aywwts4, on 07/22/2008, -2/+8Petard: Smartass, The easy fix which you are likely refering to "bcdedit /set loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS" does not work, it was disabled with SP1 and before that various patches combated it.

        Tenoq: Sorry to report that the fix I used has been taken down. I found a similar patch from a different site, but I can't verify it personally. http://www.tipandtrick.net/2008/permanently-turn-o ...

        The method I used required UAC to be disabled, booted the system into test mode by default, and drivers could be individually loaded and signed on a case by case basis. It works great and I don't lose thousands of dollars worth of specialized hardware that also links up to a software package which actually uses 8 gigs of ram.
      • Artemis3, on 07/22/2008, -3/+11I am using XP 64 for gaming just fine, No driver shortage today, maybe back in 2005...
      • aywwts4, on 07/22/2008, -2/+3This is a fix that I have used, this one is still up, and it worked for me. http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=dseo
      • Breepee, on 07/22/2008, -6/+8XP64 is the best MS OS I've ever run. All the goodness of XP and Windows 2003 combined with 64bit support (so I can see all of my ram). And it's much better than Vista 64, because that gave me some driver problems. XP64 just works as it should.
      • zxcasd, on 07/22/2008, -2/+0@aywwts4..... if u dual boot Vista and another OS(xp, linux OR EVEN Mac OS X!!!) and use Vista's bootloader

        when the bootloader comes up and u get to choose which OS to boot into, move down(or up) to Vista, and press F8....

        then u'll see an option to Disable Driver Integrity Checks(its near the bottoM)

        now, i get to use that option if i want to use i8kfan (64bit driver isn't signed.....)
      • dtfinch, on 07/22/2008, -3/+3"No 32 bit OS can address more than 4 gigs of ram"

        Liar.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Exte ...
    • P0peRatz0, on 07/22/2008, -14/+37"it's like a kitten with a ball of yarn"

      Yes, it gets tangled up.
    • KingGorilla, on 07/22/2008, -6/+6That's good right?
    • Kauzman01, on 07/22/2008, -5/+11I won't criticize what you said at all, I just want to say, I thought you said ball of yam. I had never heard of yam balls before.
    • r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -17/+356 GB of memory would be absolute overkill for competing operating systems. OS X, BSD, any Linux distro, or even Windows XP can perform on par with Vista with only 800 MB of RAM. Spending all that extra money on memory just to get your computer running functionally is just ridiculous; you shouldn't have to pay for Microsoft's incompetence.
      • exeprime, on 07/22/2008, -1/+14Um. Try running a new game with 800mb RAM. It's not "just for Vista", but when you have a wicked rig for your games, Vista eating up a few extra resources isn't all that dramatic.
      • solid12345, on 07/22/2008, -1/+18Try using Photoshop or After Effects on 800 MB of RAM
      • FutureGuy, on 07/22/2008, -1/+6Yes its Vista's fault that this guy added 6GB of memory. I run mine with 2GM and its still "like a kitten with a ball of yarn", and no it doesn't get tangled. And yes this whining is getting old and annoying, 2GB of ram cost nothing these days.
      • aserer511, on 07/22/2008, -4/+1Dude this is seriously the stupidest comment this side of digg; my old XP machine had 1GB ram, and now I have two, and i very much notice a difference
      • r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -2/+3I'm not talking about games or third-party applications you idiots, I'm saying that the base system (file browser, web browser, etc.) on most OS's can run relatively smoothly with significantly less RAM than Vista requires. Yes, more RAM = faster performance; I'm not debating that and I don't know what makes you guys think that I am.

        "And yes this whining is getting old and annoying, 2GB of ram cost nothing these days."
        It's not about cost, and I hardly think that making a fair criticism of an OS's performance is "whining". What it's about is that Vista takes significantly more resources than any other OS, and for no apparent reason. There is no excuse for that.
      • sanosuke001, on 07/22/2008, -1/+0How the hell did you get 800MB? 512+256+32? Now that's just ***** up. Can you even buy 32MB DDR sticks? I doubt 800MB SDRAM would satiate Vista...
    • Lane, on 07/22/2008, -0/+15more can be done on a computer than typing and surfing the intertubes
      • KMartSheriff, on 07/22/2008, -2/+2Try telling that to Ubuntu users.
    • lamiaconfitor, on 07/22/2008, -12/+6the fact that you had to install 6 gigs say allot, doesn't it?
      • TheUngod, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7Yes he HAD to install 6 gigs. Just like I'm sure he HAS to have 2 3ghz quad core processors. I mean, it's not like anyone would WANT a faster computer, it's 100% necessary to have those things, obviously.
    • DeFex, on 07/22/2008, -4/+2funny and unpredictable?
    • jpaolini, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7Vista runs decently on 2GB, perfect on 4GB with x64, and even better with 8GB if you use lots of RAM-intensive applications.

      I run 8GB, but will admit it's a bit overkill. 4GB would have been perfect.
    • silfiriel, on 07/22/2008, -6/+6I use it with just 1GB ram, and runs as smooth as a baby butt
  • JigoroKano, on 07/21/2008, -35/+85Fancy gaming sound cards are useless in Vista. I hope they plan on fixing that because the changes there were extremely idiotic.
    • Nysul, on 07/22/2008, -5/+68More the result of the ***** of Creative. When vista betas were out my integrated soundcard worked just fine while my soundblaster was crapware.
    • gcnaddict, on 07/22/2008, -5/+38Asus XONAR. Stop buying Creative's *****.
      • Tenoq, on 07/22/2008, -1/+13M-Audio Revolution 7.1 - great in XP, nerfed in Vista.

        Very irritating. I am looking at buying a Xonar now - but it really sucks I have to buy a new sound card for an OS. Sure, extra RAM, $20, but a new $100-$150 sound card? Lame.
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -5/+2Hey if you bought an nVidia or ATI card recently you can save some money by not buying a physics acceleration card.
    • archer75, on 07/22/2008, -1/+25developers just need to use OpenAL and you get the fancy sound. Or just use creative alchemy. The sound changes were a good thing. It was removed from the kernel so when your sound card crashes it doesn't take your entire system down with it.
    • rdldr1, on 07/22/2008, -17/+10"Since Windows Vista features a rewritten audio stack and does not inherit the Hardware Abstraction Layer for audio that was present under prior versions of Windows, there is no hardware acceleration of DirectSound and DirectSound3D APIs. DirectSound is emulated entirely in software. As a result, hardware acceleration and 3D spatialization utilizing DirectSound3D is no longer supported."

      Its not Creative's fault, its Vista's/
      • gcnaddict, on 07/22/2008, -3/+18Do you remember that guy who ripped files from Creative's XP drivers and wove them into Creative's Vista drivers? He got the same features and same quality sound in his hacked Vista drivers that he got out of his XP drivers.

        Point is: Creative never used DirectSound3D for any decent reason anyway, hence why it was torn out. Thus, the blame goes right back to Creative.

        You guys need to remember that maintaining features which are hardly ever used is a huge pain in the ass for devs managing an OS with code line counts in the tens of millions.
      • consonance, on 07/22/2008, -2/+16Dude, seriously, think. It's been 19 months since Windows Vista came out. A new audio stack should only hurt for a few months at most. But considering that Vista was RTM in November of 2006, it's possible that Creative has had 20 to 21 months to fix the problem. It should NOT take anywhere near that long to develop a new version of a driver from an existing version. Creative is clearly at fault.
    • Syphon8, on 07/22/2008, -5/+26Sound... Cards?

      Do people actually buy fancy gaming sound cards?
      • somestranger26, on 07/22/2008, -4/+6Yes, but I primarily bought my X-Fi Prelude because I enjoy the connectivity it has, DDL (and soon DTS) output, improved sound quality, etc. If someone is just going to play games and doesn't need anything other than analog outputs, onboard should suit them just fine.
      • myhandleondigg, on 07/22/2008, -5/+7i know this comment is about gaming, but vista is really wretched for recording audio interfaces (fancy term for what essentially amounts to firewire soundcards). this is an industry that vista dropped the ball on, so everybody is either sticking to xp or using macs (which even pro tools doesn't even support the newest leopard version yet).
      • Tenoq, on 07/22/2008, -3/+12People buy fancy sound cards... not just for gaming. Onboard solutions are getting better, but they still sound like arse with a decent set of headphones or speakers.
    • kestrel7e7, on 07/22/2008, -1/+14Next gen consoles don't have and never will have dedicated hardware accelerated sound.

      So who's right? Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo and all the game developers that don't use EAX, including the mighty Valve.... or Creative?

      R.I.P. Creative Gaming Sound Card.
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -1/+6That sucks, because if you design games you know sound eats lots of cpu performance.
      • damndj, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Microsoft.
      • nookcook, on 07/22/2008, -0/+0kestrel7e7 is absolutely correct. I've got a Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS installed in my computer. I really like the inputs/outputs for mixing/creating music on the front panel. The optical inputs are great for high-end sound systems. That being said, hardware 3D sound acceleration in these cards has become a joke with recent hardware trends. Both multiprocessors and memory have become exceedingly inexpensive. There is very little reason to have a dedicated sound card when the software can effectively emulate their function on multiprocessor computers with gigabytes of memory,
    • chillypacman, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2and you propose Microsoft fix this how exactly?

      I'm throwing it out there, what is your solution to this problem?
    • alperea, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2not all gaming soundcards are made by Creative.
    • mwalker05, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1just buy a motherboard with decent integrated audio. much cheaper and vista loads the drivers automatically. My vista machine was the first computer i built where i didnt have to load any drivers from the manufacturers discs, vista had them or found them itself. now i am enjoying spdif out as well has sound through my hdmi port.
      • nookcook, on 07/22/2008, -0/+0I agree that Vista's ability automatically detect and install drivers has improved over XP. It's almost as easy as OSX 10.5 and many more devices are supported (than OSX, not XP).
    • DeFex, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1who cares about gaming sound cards, what about music production sound cards.
    • TheUngod, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1I'm sorry, my Razer sound card obliterates my motherboards integrated sound. There is DEFINITELY a reason to have a good gaming sound card.
  • GetSmartGal, on 07/21/2008, -27/+51I will say having Vista means life is never boring!
    • davidkeithjones, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Life is just waiting room for death.
  • InvisibleInk, on 07/21/2008, -15/+33I'd miss Reversi
    • kc0re, on 07/22/2008, -4/+2i see what you did there sir, well done.
    • waterdrop, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2You can copy over the game's files from an XP install to your Vista install and it will work. I did it with Pinball.
  • netneutrality, on 07/21/2008, -27/+63I shouldn't have read that article because it's just made me angry. About a dozen features I use and like in Win2003 are rudely missing from Vista for no reason, apparently. *Calm blue ocean.... calm blue ocean.... calm blue ocean..*
    • gcnaddict, on 07/22/2008, -7/+20List them.
      • MasterChi, on 07/22/2008, -15/+7RunAs feature would be nice....removed so now only Run As Administrator, ergh. Annoying from a tech support point of view. IE can't be started from cmd prompt with RunAs (another user with credentials) for testing proxy (ours is locked down to user accounts for better security). And so on.
      • gcnaddict, on 07/22/2008, -11/+20"And so on" isn't a sufficient answer to "List them."
      • jamesdew, on 07/22/2008, -8/+5well he listed a few, perhaps he has other things to do than type on digg all day.
      • gcnaddict, on 07/22/2008, -3/+11MasterChi listed just one thing. The rest of his post was just a bunch of examples for that one thing.
      • WileEPeyote, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5Since your post sounds like you don't have a solution, try:

        "[SYSTEM DRIVE]:Program Files (x86)Internet Exploreriexplore.exe" (x64)
        "[SYSTEM DRIVE]:Program FilesInternet Exploreriexplore.exe" (x86)

        This usually works fairly well, then use the runas command in a batch file. I would assume you would want it automated if you are doing some testing. You could do it from one shortcut, this is how we solved issues with not being able to run as from the menu.

        If you were just being a smart-ass then :P.
      • jamesdew, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1Good point gcnaddict, he fooled me with his extra wordy response.
    • stonedgeek, on 07/22/2008, -2/+14serenity now
  • Hellman109, on 07/22/2008, -40/+172They forgot that Vista removed the Blaster virus...

    Oh yeah, XP lovers like to ignore anything pre-SP2.
    • legendxx, on 07/22/2008, -16/+19By your logic you should have waited before buying Vista until it has its SP2 right? Good sound reasoning...
      • willfe, on 07/22/2008, -3/+11Most businesses are certainly taking this approach...
      • t4m5t3r, on 07/22/2008, -9/+2hahaha

        WTF?

        what about the inability to copy and paste, what about the system BSODing after update (almost every update) what about the system NOT starting after update, what about the poor performance, what about the poor security, system requirements, compatability, ect, ect, ect.................................................


        Oh yeah, Vista lovers like to ignore EVERYTHING about vista (although if i was stupid enough to fork out a couple of grand for a bag of ***** system i may blindly defend it to the death aswell!!)
      • somedirtbag, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3@t4m5t3r: "compatability, ect, ect, ect................................................."

        ETC! IT'S ETC! ET CETERA!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! ET CETERA!!

        ...

        Sorry.
    • nigh7dagger, on 07/22/2008, -3/+25No, that's bad logic. By his logic, when Windows 7 comes out, he should forget about pre-SP1 Vista.
      • crimsoneye, on 07/22/2008, -2/+8People will be complaining about windows 7 when it comes out like they did with vista and xp.
    • willynilly, on 07/22/2008, -13/+7"Oh yeah, XP lovers like to ignore anything pre-SP2."

      That is absolutely pathetic. WTF are you talking about? Nobody is referring to a specific service pack when they compare XP and Vista.

      Retard.
    • xunilmac, on 07/24/2008, -0/+0Blaster hasn't been around for years, although Blaster was a really dangerous virus.

      But.. you will avoid both XP and Vista viruses if you use OS X. Don't believe the hype, Linux isn't that great. Switch to OSX today!
  • Vodd9, on 07/22/2008, -41/+20Dugg to give the opportunity to the Vista fanboys to educate themselves.
  • The_Decryptor, on 07/22/2008, -16/+215A lot of these "features" are stupid, Are we really missing active desktop?, is moving a feature actually removing it?

    And one of the missing "features" is actually a security flaw.
    • boris4ka, on 07/22/2008, -8/+25Although I had never used active desktop before, now that I read about it here I must say it would be great to be able to use an animated GIF as my wallpaper. Think of tiled dancing bananas. That would be awesome.

      However you're probably right about the rest of the features.
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -0/+11I used it once to embed an annoying looping flash video onto my rommates desktop in university.
        Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Mushroom Mushroom... for a whole week.
      • WileEPeyote, on 07/22/2008, -3/+5"Think of tiled dancing bananas. That would be awesome."

        I can only hope that you are kidding...
      • cffury13, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Screw dancing bananas, I always went with dancing cacti!
    • briansearles, on 07/22/2008, -6/+63Doesn't matter to these people. If you hate Vista, you'll come up with a huge list of "features" missing regardless.

      IE7 deintegrated? Are you ***** me?
    • CalcProgrammer1, on 07/22/2008, -3/+18I occasionally used animated GIF's as my background (back on Win95 or 98, rarely 2000 or XP), but DreamScene beats that by miles, even though I rarely use DreamScene (eats up GPU time, and I game a lot, messes up on multi-monitor setups). As for the HTML background, never used it, don't care that it's missing. All Active Desktop ever did on anything 2000 or older was crash giving you the annoying "Restore Active Desktop" page even though all your desktop was was a JPEG.
      • WileEPeyote, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5Anything animated in the background gives me a headache after a while.
      • tnvwboy, on 07/23/2008, -1/+1Animated backgrounds, regardless of the technology behind them are nothing but a short term gimmick. It's fun for a little while and then you get tired of it and turn it off.
    • expert01, on 07/22/2008, -12/+2Actually, I really do miss Active Desktop. I'm sure someone will eventually make a program for vista that does the same thing (there are already programs like that for OSX and linux).
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -0/+9They have desktop widgets now which cover most of the usability gained from active desktop. Many people would put the weather page on their desktop for example.
      • expert01, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1Not sure why I got buried so far... I was working on Active Desktop Portal (adp.sourceforge.net) and it depended on Active Desktop exclusively. Not widgets. Not movies. Actual web pages on the desktop.
    • darkzealot89, on 07/22/2008, -5/+43"Installing Windows Vista on a volume with a FAT32 file system is no longer supported."

      I am not really missing FAT32 at all... NTFS FTW
      • simg, on 07/22/2008, -9/+3If you're cynically minded you might think that this has something to do with trying to prevent dual-boot Linux users being able to share files between their Vista and Linux OS's ?

        Actually, it's no longer possible to format a drive in FAT32 in Vista - you need to get a 3rd party product.

        (Apparently, it is now possible to write to NTFS partitioned drives from "Linux" although I haven't tried this)
      • githoc, on 07/22/2008, -0/+12"Actually, it's no longer possible to format a drive in FAT32 in Vista - you need to get a 3rd party product"

        Thats not true. You can format a drive as FAT, FAT32, exFAT or NTFS through the command line
      • TaeBoX, on 07/22/2008, -3/+10There are ways to do just about anything from linux.
      • Meep3D, on 07/22/2008, -9/+2It is possible to write to an NTFS partition with Linux, true, but what they don't tell you is after doing this Windows won't ever read the NTFS partition again as it'll be corrupted.
      • Breepee, on 07/22/2008, -0/+10I use NTFS-3g and Windows across the board, all together, and Windows reads partitions accesed by NTFS-3g fine. Never had any corruption.
      • ExRe, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Oh, but Fat32 is so nice. Who doesn't like not being able to have files larger than 4GB?
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -0/+11Most of those features I never really used, and don't miss at all. As with any missing feature there's going to be people who miss it. But you have to also understand that the worlds moving forward.

      I also noticed how nobody ever dares do this to Apple, yet Apple does this far worse.
      • willynilly, on 07/22/2008, -1/+8No. Apple never had any of the useful features cited here anyway. People have been asking for an "up one directory level" button in Finder for years. Microsoft is just degrading their UI to gain parity, apparently.
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -1/+5Yea when I discovered that button was gone I thought the new Explorer sucked.

        The new "Bread Crumb" menu works until the directory name is too long and the previous folder doesn't appear, preventing you from clicking on it to go up one directory level.

        I completely agree.
    • celotil, on 07/22/2008, -3/+3I had to set up a number of computers for a church and make them easy to use while incorporating the new internal church web site - while not allowed to set up a spare machine as a server. Active Desktop made it sooo simple, because I didn't have half of the users asking me why they had to open IE, and how do they get rid of that "stuff" around the "window frame" when their computer "booteded".

      AD had its place. I didn't like going there much, but it had its place.
    • ttamshadbolt, on 07/22/2008, -2/+1man, from a sys admin point of view there are a bunch of things in this list that piss me off!

      the run as feature alone has caused me so much pain - the fact that I cant run certain applications as a service account other than Administrator is just insecure. FFS, Microsoft suggest "run as" option for running anything that may need the smallest amount of extended user privileges. Add to the fact that if I map a network drive as Administrator and try and "Run as Administrator" and use that drive it doesn't work! For me to install anything over a network drive with elevated privileges I need to logon specifically to the server/client as an administrator - not cool man!

      don't even get me started trying to design an effective group policy that effects both XP and Vista - it's almost impossible!
    • chillypacman, on 07/22/2008, -8/+1"And one of the missing "features" is actually a security flaw."

      It's only a security flaw when we're discussing how insecure windows is, otherwise it's a missing feature.

      Get it through your thick skull you uninformed microsoft fanboy!
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3I used to work for Equifax, the largest credit reporting agency.

        I spoke with a woman with a smart house, who had her Mac hacked into from the Internet. She said her whole house was going crazy and that they broke into all of her financial accounts.

        When I looked at her credit report, there was about 30 different fraud claims.
  • reddikilowatt, on 07/22/2008, -13/+33Not Gopher!
    • manova, on 07/22/2008, -2/+6Other people might digg you down, but I wanted to make the same comment.
      • TGMD, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7I miss gopher....

        We need to overthrow this WWW thing and bring back the glory days of gopher....
    • nigh7dagger, on 07/22/2008, -0/+9And Pinball, too! What the hell am I gonna do now?
    • Origin415, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1First IE7, next FF4, where shall the Gopher users go next?

      That said, where the heck can I find some documentation on making a gopher page? I installed a Gopher server on my Gentoo box a while ago, but couldn't figure out the format I'm supposed to use for pages.
  • JohnsonGotOwned, on 07/22/2008, -8/+171Is there a Wikipedia article for EVERYTHING now or something?
  • wunksta, on 07/22/2008, -26/+17i just hate how the moved everything around, renamed ***** and changed cmds. ***** dumb, you know how many calls i get on this *****?
    • coreman, on 07/22/2008, -3/+6but it's Innovation!
    • 0x0000ff, on 07/22/2008, -6/+2None?
    • jman583, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3Try using Flash or Photoshop.
    • djgreedo, on 07/22/2008, -1/+5If anyone is calling you up because they can't find something in Vista, chances are they would still have to call you if they were using XP.
      While it was initially annoying that things moved, I much prefer the more intuitive layout of Vista now.
      • wunksta, on 07/22/2008, -0/+0maybe. i dont even use it. i just know that from 98-xp there wasnt that many layout changes and vista was a total revamp. it may be great for younger users but with older users, it ***** up our call volume/time haha.
  • stevan2002, on 07/22/2008, -27/+21That was a dumb list.
    • bigmac375, on 07/22/2008, -5/+4Thanks for your insight.
    • simg, on 07/22/2008, -2/+1and you're wrong. it was a very interesting list.
  • D14BL0, on 07/22/2008, -12/+207Yeah, submitting a Wikipedia article to the frontpage was a totally brilliant idea.

    It's going to end up edited left and right and completely defeat the purpose of submitting it in the first place.
    • Alex2, on 07/22/2008, -0/+25"Digg vandalism
      This page has been linked from Digg, a high traffic website with many immature people. Something needs to be done. Dooga Talk 05:27, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

      I have requested semi-protection Dooga Talk 05:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC) "

      Oh my. We've rattled the hornets nest. And I didn't even get a chance to post a "They took out Microsoft Bob!" section at Wikipedia.
    • fatjoe, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4LOL

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Features_removed ...
    • cusoman, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1It should already be apparent that our "top submitters" here on Digg aren't the smartest apples on the tree.
  • wonderchemist, on 07/22/2008, -10/+1Teh Snappy!
  • griffeycom, on 07/22/2008, -5/+10The Image Resizer from Power Toys is one of the biggest things I miss!
  • Owwmykneecap, on 07/22/2008, -7/+44Massive ***** detector?
    • Strider11o7, on 07/22/2008, -3/+1I noticed that too, pretty strange
    • chromecast, on 07/22/2008, -1/+19deprecated.
      Vista now has built-in web cam support!
    • digitallysick, on 07/22/2008, -3/+9You can only have that with vista ultimate, sorry
    • TheUngod, on 07/22/2008, -1/+5Only Macs have those. You can tell when there's a massive ***** around when the apple logo is....present.
  • jblade, on 07/22/2008, -10/+91I never put down Mac users, because I simply have no experience with it.

    But for some reason, every mac user feels the need to flaunt that they love macs, and that they hate windows.
    • Kazaki, on 07/22/2008, -4/+13I love Macs, and I think Windows is very important to the function of our society. I have no problems with people choosing Windows, and often recommend them to people whom are either starting a business or would simply be more comfortable with it.

      I don't care what anybody uses. In the end, we're all the same.
      • Rudegar, on 07/22/2008, -6/+1not me though i'm a bit different ;)
    • tomarocco, on 07/22/2008, -10/+4Perhaps they simply have experience with it.
    • tugger, on 07/22/2008, -10/+2thats because they used to love windows, until they tried something else....
    • kc0re, on 07/22/2008, -6/+1because increasingly mac users are switchers from another platform. I'm a mac user, heavily, and I am forced to use Vista at work. I don't like it, as some things don't work as expected, and I have managed (without trying) to crash explorer, IE, Outlook, excel... several times. I prefer my macs, but I would say that I've had a slightly positive experience with Vista. XP was better IMO though.

      But my mac kicks the ass of all.
    • solid12345, on 07/22/2008, -2/+4As a graphic designer, I use a mac at work and a PC at home, both are great machines but I still prefer Windows as that is what I am used to.
    • DeFex, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Dont worry about it. they are just computers.
      might as well argue if Milwakee tools are better then DeWalt ones.
    • FutureGuy, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Its in the EULA that gets sub-consciously injected into their brains every time they start their Mac.
    • doshindude, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3there's actually a term for that, it's called a "MacDouche."
    • jasonh1234, on 07/23/2008, -1/+1I used to wonder why they did that too. Then after 15+ years on Windows I switched. Now I KNOW first-hand why they're like that.
    • johnming, on 07/23/2008, -1/+1OS X is a better operating system than Windows in my opinion but I still use XP simply because of some applications/games that are Windows-only. Macs, from a hardware perspective, are not that great for the most part and while they look prettier, they aren't as reliable. This is coming from an ex-Mac user, by the way.
  • ravi7791, on 07/22/2008, -5/+17"It is not possible to share Microsoft Office Outlook contacts with Windows Contacts"
    It's stuff like this that boggles my mind. Why would two MS not make to apps with similar directives work with each other?
    • willynilly, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7True enough. There seems to be a wave of stupidity that has overtaken all software and system design since the mid-'90s.

      And look at Apple: They don't even have an equivalent to Outlook, after all these years. Not even to support the iPhone. There's no way to sync the PDA-type info that Palm OS devices have handled perfectly for a decade and more. *****, they're trying to manage all the data on a portable computer with a damned MUSIC PLAYER app.
    • caseycoold, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2Because someone will scream "monopoly" if they do and "you're stupid" if they don't.
      Do you seriously think it never crossed anyone's mind?
      They love their money, what do you think they're going to chose?

      Look in previous posts/rest of digg for complaints about IE to prove my point.
      • paidhima, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2It would only be a monopoly if MS somehow restricted shared contacts to Outlook and no other client.
      • caseycoold, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1@paidhima:
        Then why did people bitch so much about IE6 being built into Windows? You could still install other browsers? Same with WMP.
        I don't use WMP at all, but I don't scream bloody murder unless they block or inhibit what I want to do.
  • MrZop, on 07/22/2008, -5/+34"Massive ***** Detector" Damn, i knew Vista was missing something. Interesting feature on that list.
    • aznpwnzor, on 07/22/2008, -0/+20and this is why you don't submit wikipedia articles to 4chan....i mean digg.
    • djgreedo, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2Imagine putting one of those MCDs in the middle of an Apple store...it would explode.
  • AppleGeorge, on 07/22/2008, -13/+6Massive ***** Detector.
  • mstrum, on 07/22/2008, -5/+14The more legacy stuff Microsoft can take out the better I say. Going through that list I don't see anything critical. Weren't people complaining that Vista had too much bloat anyway? Choose one.
    • caseycoold, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1EXACTLY!
      I had a post were people where bitching about Windows being bloated and I was dugg down for it.
      Now people miss the old features.

      It would be nice for a list, while installing, of non-essential stuff to pick from (how v-lite does it, or a more user-friendly lnux). IE would die for most people me thinks.... But there is a lot of stuff I will never use that's important to someone somewhere.
  • Gioleb, on 07/22/2008, -3/+62I really do miss the "Massive ***** Detector".
    http://i35.tinypic.com/25u4c2d.jpg
    • BlooSki, on 07/22/2008, -2/+6No really, I just looked. This is the list in Wikipedia. Was going down the list and righteously dis'ing MS for their f**ked up OS when I involuntarily did a double-take.
  • TheFinestShadow, on 07/22/2008, -6/+8I absolutely love how a Wikipedia article about Microsoft removing features finds its way to the front page. I
  • Typhoon2009, on 07/22/2008, -1/+6The one thing they needed to put in was passworded folders. Inb4passwordedrars.
    • RealJimShady, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Ummm... To serve the exact same purpose as the File/Folder ACLs that have existed since NT4?

      What users need to do is keep learning.
  • KrazyKoala, on 07/22/2008, -1/+72I only miss the graphical representation of defragmentation. Let me analyze damnit!
  • RequiemHunter, on 07/22/2008, -2/+27The XP version has Hyper Terminal, and they took it out of Vista. I needed Hyper Terminal for my works, and I was pretty annoy when they took away Hyper Terminal from Vista.
    • KMartSheriff, on 07/22/2008, -2/+5I agree, I used to use Hyper Terminal too. Hyper Terminal was in XP, but sadly Hyper Terminal was removed from Vista.
    • tomarocco, on 07/22/2008, -22/+4Apparantly your works doesn't require solid English skills. Where we work we get pretty annoy about that.
      • WileEPeyote, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6Luckily he isn't working, he is submitting a reply on Digg, go push some other workers around and leave the time-wasting to the proffesionals.
    • RequiemHunter, on 07/22/2008, -3/+10You assume my work requires any English at all. I spend all days looking at formula, equations, and functions that I feel like I am working in ancient Greek than anything else. So long you understand basic english, thermodynamic, chemical reactions, math equations, and could code good C, C#, Java, MatLab, Visual Basic, and LabVIEW. Solid english skill is just an optional plus for them.

      BTW, English is my 3rd language. Sorry if I don't spend so much time perfecting it.
      • tomarocco, on 07/22/2008, -10/+3With that agenda I'm shocked you even had time to respond to my smart-assed remark. That being said, the sad truth remains that with English as a 1st language here in the States, a stoned, mediocre php hacker gets paid substantially more with a fraction of the effort. I speak from experience.
      • WileEPeyote, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Wow, tomarocco, where do you work? The high-tech company where I work (and the last two) has a good chunk of folks who do not have English as a primary language and I am not talking about our first line tech support. Many of them are in much higher positions than the stoned php hackers.
      • tomarocco, on 07/22/2008, -2/+1WileEPeyote: I wouldn't even want to touch the handle on the bathroom door where you work.
      • WileEPeyote, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1@tomarocco
        Is that some lame excuse for a joke? Maybe you should get your ideas from something other than 3rd grade jokes.
    • willfe, on 07/22/2008, -1/+11Have a look at Putty (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ ... -- it supports telnet and SSH, as well as direct serial connections. Bunches of options/configurability.
      • Burn, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3A patch set PuTTy, named TuTTY, adds the serial terminal features that were in HyperTerminal but not PuTTY. As a nice bonus it also adds a nice folder view in the saved server list and a few other things. I very much recommend it over PuTTy:

        http://putty.dwalin.ru/?tutty
      • qwertydvorak, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2i use putty on a regular basis to play tradewars 2002. good program.
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Nobody gives credit to MS for the sea of free apps available on Windows, but Mac and Linux people always use their free apps as talking points.
    • TehProphet, on 07/22/2008, -3/+2They got rid of hyperterminal? wtf how do you console into a router then, do you have to install a third party app just to do that?
    • n88n, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1damn. I have not noticed they ditched hyperterminal. I mostly use teraterm for myself but I like that any PC I get in front of will have hyperterminal.

      shame.
    • rivs, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2Yeah I need Hyper Terminal the other day to make some changes to our Cisco router. You can add it to vista, you just need a .dll and the Hyper Terminal .exe file from XP.
    • llzackll, on 07/24/2008, -0/+0You can download Hyperterminal for Vista free from http://www.hilgraeve.com/
  • demizer, on 07/22/2008, -20/+19Why is "User Confidence" not on the list? :-/
  • colonelbuckshot, on 07/22/2008, -10/+25I skimmed through the list and I failed to find a single feature I wanted to keep.
    • RealJimShady, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4I agree. Whoever added "The Windows Classic theme colors (Brick, Eggplant, Rainy Day, Wheat, Pumpkin, etc.) have been removed." can go eat a dick. Eggplant?

      What the article fails to mention, to be fair, is what has been thrown in like SMB2 and some awesome enhancements to the kernel. I can't wait to get Server 08 going at work.
  • Mrdudeperson, on 07/22/2008, -9/+1Vista=bad=good?
  • Borgcube636, on 07/22/2008, -7/+45DOS!!! WHERE'S MY ***** DOS!!!
  • emehrkay, on 07/22/2008, -8/+3NetBEUI protocol? Isn't this the thing that allows you to type in (backslash backslash) \computer_name in the address bar and go to that computer? I just gave my mac a netbeui name so that I could easily get to it from my xbox media center
    • willfe, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2NetBEUI was NetBIOS over token ring (heh) -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBIOS

      SMB and TCP/IP have handled \computer_nameservice_name requests for awhile now.
    • WileEPeyote, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1NetBEUI is an ugly, noisy protocol.

      @willfe
      I am pretty sure we were using NetBEUI on an Ethernet network back in the early '90s and hating it.
  • andre321, on 07/22/2008, -11/+5I do really miss XP's massive ***** detector :(
  • prime9891, on 07/22/2008, -17/+13Are you serious? linking to a wikipedia article =/= news
    Also enough with these stupid anti-vista articles. Seriously, it's getting old.
  • l0k0, on 07/22/2008, -21/+59The critical thinking applied by fanboys:
    1) Bitch about how Vista is so bloated for over a year
    2) When even you get tired of it, continue bitching, but about what was removed
    3) Rave about *insert favorite OS*
    4) Ignore Hypocrisy
    5) Repeat as necessary
    • consonance, on 07/22/2008, -2/+24But how do I profit?
    • FalkenAX3, on 07/22/2008, -11/+2Critical thinking applied to Fanboy beaters
      1)Chuck Norris
      2)Kill fanboys
      3)????
      4)Profit
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -3/+8No don't you dare bring Chuck Norris into this.
    • stealthc, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2Make sure you remember to praise Vista endlessly when the next version of Windows comes out.
    • silfiriel, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1and it must be a top digger that submits the story.
  • Caleb83, on 07/22/2008, -1/+45"On 22 July 2008, Features removed from Windows Vista was linked from Digg, a high-traffic website.
    All prior and subsequent edits to the article are noted in its revision history."

    In other words: This article is less accurate than it was yesterday.
  • thegodfaza, on 07/22/2008, -1/+14"It is not possible to display the full path in the title bar when Windows Aero is enabled. When Aero is disabled (Classic folder view), the full path can be displayed in the title bar."

    This is wrong. You can show the full path if you click in the menu bar while running aero.
    • voodoozombie, on 07/22/2008, -3/+1No, I thought that too. They mean on top of the menu bar where, in Aero, it is transparent. What you are refering to is clicking in the menu bar switches from Breadcrumbs to the full path (Breadcrumbs is one of my favorite features).
    • willynilly, on 07/22/2008, -4/+3"You can show the full path if you click in the menu bar while running aero."

      Is that indicated somewhere? If not, then the feature essentially doesn't exist. Invisible controls don't count.

      This is more Apple-stye *****, hoping the user clicks on every pixel on the screen to see if there are Easter-egg controls.
      • FredFredrickson, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2It's more like a case of an imbecile not knowing how to use the OS, and then writing up some ***** about how it's missing features, when the truth is that he just doesn't know how to access them.
  • Papajohn56, on 07/22/2008, -9/+8Networking over 1394 is actually really useful, what was the point in removing that
    • gcnaddict, on 07/22/2008, -3/+12No one used it.

      It costs money to support a feature with dev time (and possibly leave holes) when no one uses it.
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/22/2008, -2/+2It's kind of like when you can afford to feed your dog anymore so you have to put him down.
      ...only not.
    • vNES, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Actually something to do with file permissions, and being able to hack a system from the login screen using Firewire.

      I think it was removed from XP in a hotfix as well.
  • Gfr0ehrer, on 07/22/2008, -16/+1Don't tase me bro!
  • xchaoskittyx, on 07/22/2008, -13/+6The title should be "Why everyone removes vista"
  • FoxOrian, on 07/22/2008, -4/+8I will say that the ONLY thing that bothers me about Vista is the fact it no longer uses DirectSound.
  • TBBucs, on 07/22/2008, -4/+36"On 22 July 2008, Features removed from Windows Vista was linked from Digg, a high-traffic website."

    Everybody wave!
  • goldsaturn, on 07/22/2008, -7/+13PINBALL NOOOOO!!! Forget upgrading to Vista, I've got wine for when XP dies.
    • lunarship, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7Copy the pinball files to a memory stick and copy them onto Vista - they work fine, I've tried it (and happily play it!)
      • waterdrop, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Yes it does work. The number one complaint I hear about Vista is that "my Pinball is gone". So I just copy the game over to their Vista install and all is well again.
      • tnvwboy, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1I still have Tetris from Windows 3.11 on floppy. Still works. :P
  • Familyguykiller, on 07/22/2008, -8/+18I got vista on my laptop and I love it. It's fast and it looks nice and works great.
    • nigh7dagger, on 07/22/2008, -9/+9This is Digg. Even if you secretly run it and like it, you have to act like it's the worst thing in the world (besides Bush/McCain, but that's another story). You can either support Mac or Linux.
    • r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -9/+5"It's fast"
      No, it's really not. Fast on high-end hardware maybe, however, bubble sort is faster than quick sort if it's being run on good enough hardware, but that doesn't change the fact that bubble sort is a poor excuse for a sorting algorithm.
      "it looks nice"
      I won't argue with that, although I do like the ability to choose what my Linux desktop looks like.
      "it works great"
      No. I used it for several months and it would often hang when trying to recycle or move or extract a file, and the dialog box wouldn't close so I would have to kill it manually, which would in turn kill explorer.exe. That is not "working great", in fact, the fact that Vista can't even get basic desktop functionality right is really abysmal.

      I will agree that Vista isn't half as bad as many would lead you to believe, but there is something seriously wrong with an operating system when truly horrible coding is made blatantly apparent to the end user.
    • willynilly, on 07/22/2008, -10/+3"t's fast and it looks nice and works great."

      Another Microsoft shill or utter noob heard from.
      • caseycoold, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6Hate other's opinions much?
      • stonedthot, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Ha! calling someone a noob. What a ***** noob..
  • CobaltBlue, on 07/22/2008, -5/+59Dont' worry. Apple will be adding them back in without your permission on their next iTunes update.
  • rdldr1, on 07/22/2008, -3/+23"While previewing GIF's in the Windows File Preview, animated GIF's are not played (Only the first frame is shown). Under XP, the entire animation was shown."

    I've noticed on my Vista laptop that animated gifs are no longer animated. Why??!?!?!??!
    • jman583, on 07/22/2008, -1/+13It is a pain the ass. The best thing I can do is just open the GIF in Firefox to make it play.
    • aliguana, on 07/22/2008, -2/+18you still use animated gifs?
      • dungbeetle, on 07/22/2008, -2/+3His point was that it's a widespread and commonly used format that is played correctly by every other OS on the market and it doesn't play on Vista.
      • aliguana, on 07/22/2008, -1/+5@dungbeetle: true, but the thought of opening up a folder full of blinking moving animgifs fills me with unimaginable horror. I'd rather them be listed static. That's not a design flaw, that's a design enhancement.
      • realnowhereman, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1"by every other OS on the market and it doesn't play on Vista."
        Well it doesn't under GNOME. Oh, wait, sorry, you said "on the market".
  • finn, on 07/22/2008, -14/+8I use Vista and quite frankly, I like it (and obviously I have no problems with it). This article was not worth its reading as it was just writtin to conform with all those who like to 'dis the latest OS cuz it's hip to do so, despite how inaccurate most claims are.
    Just like ANY OS, its a matter of personal taste and it should be left at that.
    • willfe, on 07/22/2008, -3/+6That or it could be viewed as a fairly objective summary of features (useful and useless alike) that were present in previous versions of the operating system that are absent in the new one.

      Have you found/identified a wealth of inaccurate claims in the article, indicating it to be pure fanboy fantasy?

      Operating systems are *not* strictly matters of personal taste. The most appropriate one should be selected given the tasks required of the machine. You won't get far in most IT offices these days if you stick DOS on every machine because it's your "personal favorite" even though all the engineers are clamoring for Unix workstations.
  • finn, on 07/22/2008, -6/+4I use Vista and quite frankly, I like it (and obviously I have no problems with it). This article was not worth its reading as it was just writtin to conform with all those who like to 'dis the latest OS cuz it's hip to do so, despite how inaccurate most claims are.
    Just like ANY OS, its a matter of personal taste and it should be left at that.
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