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8 Classic Movies That Got Away With Gaping Plot Holes

cracked.com — If a movie is awesome enough, people will overlook even the most retarded gaps in reason and logic. At least, until some ***** on the Internet makes a big list of them. Enjoy!

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  • GetItBuilt, on 09/16/2008, -34/+71I love how writers always leave giant holes in their stories, it's like they don't even read what they write.

    Nuff Said.
    • Revolution101, on 09/16/2008, -2/+9mmm. giant holes.
      • Elranzer, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5Like throwing a hotdog down a hallway?
    • solid12345, on 09/16/2008, -0/+6Hello true believers!
    • robdiggity, on 09/16/2008, -2/+31Movies with gaping holes? I was expecting a slightly different article.
      • Masna, on 09/17/2008, -2/+7Title says "gaping PLOT holes." It's pretty straightforward.
    • stateofmind, on 09/16/2008, -1/+31All these boil down to:

      Triumph: What substance was Han Solo frozen in?

      Everyone: Carbonite!

      Triumph: No, no.. I'm sorry, that is wrong. It's who gives a sh**.
    • doiveo, on 09/16/2008, -18/+4I love how Cracked writers always leave giant holes in their stories, it's like they don't even read what they write.

      Nuff Said.
    • bjs3171, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5way to contribute.
    • norman619, on 09/16/2008, -1/+4Most of them either never sufficiently researched the areas where the holes pop up or do it on purpose. Many times logic is tossed aside in favor of the story. The whole time travel thing is a great one. Time travel movies treat the travelers as if they exist outside of time. ANY changes to the past would also change the traveler since they are a direct result of the past they are messing with. The latest UK import dealing with time-travel does the very same thing.
    • KingBabi, on 09/16/2008, -0/+12The BTTF article didn't make a very good case: do 48 year old adults really remember someone they knew for ONE WEEK 20 years ago?
      • geoboy, on 09/17/2008, -0/+4Memory isn't really that cut and dry. It would depend on what kind of an impact that person makes on your life. Some people you may remember for the rest of your life even if they were only a brief part of it, because there was something extraordinarily unusual about them or the circumstances involving him/her that made a profound impression on you.
    • tadpoleontheweb, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5Actually, most Hollywood scripts are often written by committee, employing sometimes a long string of screenwriters who "punch up" a scene or completely alter the main plot. Add notes given by producers and studio executives who think they can improve a story and make it more 'sellable' to a general audience, mix in on-set alterations by actors and directors on the spur of the moment while filming and include a heavy dose of post-production editing and you almost always wind up with a Frankenstein's monster of a film.

      Of all the creatives in the movie industry, screenwriters have the least amount of say.
    • quomen, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5I love how writers always leave giant holes in their stories, but in this case, it's Cracked.com and the gaping hole is the negative zone that lies between the two pages on a 8 item list.
    • randomstupid, on 09/16/2008, -0/+11buried for 'Nuff Said.'
    • ophello, on 09/17/2008, -0/+8I hate "nuff said".
    • pzwhite125, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1I love how Krispy Kreme always leaves giant holes in their donuts.
    • MatchStick, on 09/17/2008, -1/+1#9: Grandma's Boy

      How the hell does he have only one copy of the game he's been working on for months? Where are the files he was working on w/ on his computer, i.e. models.
    • kristoaster, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1Thanks for that ***** reiteration of the article.

      ps buried for 'nuff said'.
  • phreenet, on 09/16/2008, -7/+200Yoda's ***** planet.
    • solid12345, on 09/16/2008, -0/+33Most fugitives escape to a sunny island full of caribbean drinks and babes, wtf was Yoda thinking?
      • GumdoMike, on 09/16/2008, -2/+93Excuse me? Excuse me, senor? May I speak to you please? I asked for a mai tai, and they brought me a pina colada, and I said no salt, NO salt for the margarita, but it had salt on it, big grains of salt, floating in the glass...
        And yes, I won't be leaving a tip, 'cause I could... I could shut this whole resort down. Sir? I'll take my traveler's checks to a competing resort. I could write a letter to your board of tourism and I could have this place condemned. I could put... I could put... strychnine in the guacamole. There was salt on the glass, BIG grains of salt.
      • lilSears, on 09/16/2008, -3/+18You must have had help from the internet because there's no way I could understand all that mumbling.
      • DarkPrincess74, on 09/16/2008, -1/+4o k but that's the last straw.
      • Fergy, on 09/16/2008, -0/+8I'm gonna set the building on fire...
      • sap959, on 09/16/2008, -0/+7its my swingline stapler
    • orangefly, on 09/16/2008, -1/+114i always thought he went there because he was so strong with the force, he needed the vast amount of life on the planet to hide him from vader and the emperor....
      • eddantes7, on 09/16/2008, -0/+65Correct you are...
      • johnsmith3210, on 09/16/2008, -3/+8Another giant plot hole...
        Wouldn't Darth Vader just search the planets with a vast amount of life on them, seeing how that is the most likely place a powerful Jedi would hide?
      • Fergy, on 09/16/2008, -0/+15No Yoda went there because the strong dark side of the force there would hide him.
    • MrM4nager, on 09/16/2008, -6/+2Yoda only says he has nothing left to teach him because he knows he is dying.
    • OliveStreet, on 09/16/2008, -1/+60*****, my planet is.
      • TheAcclaimed, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2Why aren't you getting more diggs? I lol'd.
    • OneLess, on 09/16/2008, -1/+11It bubbles all the time like a giant carbonated soda. S-O-D-A soh-ohda
    • Ismith988, on 09/16/2008, -2/+3but can you win the Indy 500?
    • nycmac247, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3deep vents make sure mantle heat bubbles up the little rest pool - its like a bidet you can sleep in!
    • davidlow, on 09/16/2008, -0/+6I loved their plot synopsis for this one.
    • kinglenster, on 09/16/2008, -0/+2Wait, wasn't Yoda hiding from the Sith anyway after they hunted down the Jedi? He's the ultimate Jedi, he's hardly going to hang out in the best resort in the galaxy. It's not as if he could merge into the crowd.
    • SirReally, on 09/17/2008, -3/+4* Funny quote from article, unaccompanied by any useful comment *
    • Vuredel, on 09/17/2008, -3/+1*****? Slimy? My home this is!
  • Stavrosian, on 09/16/2008, -5/+289If you are going with a Star Wars plot hole, I think one stands out.

    Why the ***** is the Death Star waiting to get around the planet to take a shot at the moon? Just destroy the ***** planet! Why else did you build this thing?
    • Fhwqhgads, on 09/16/2008, -2/+101Apparently the big lazergun pew pew pew takes days to recharge. They didn't want to waste that much time and let the rebels escape and point at them and laugh as the completely helpless ball floated around their moon waiting for a recharge.
      • Jsmuli2, on 09/16/2008, -7/+15Not true, they used it in the battle "...can't repel fire of that magnitude!" like more than once.
      • NeoCortex, on 09/16/2008, -0/+140Actually, if they just destroyed the planet, the moon would probably be pretty *****, too.
      • Logicexe, on 09/16/2008, -0/+32Jsmuli2, that was the second one, the first might not have had the capability to target ships or recharge as quickly. Plus, they would have turned the laser down to strike the ships, which means it could recharge in less time.
      • emkajii, on 09/16/2008, -1/+31Jsmuli2: That was the second Death Star, which was much larger and had a more-powerful powerplant, allowing it to recharge more quickly. Plus, it's not like blowing up a ship takes nearly as much energy as blowing up a planet does...
      • SPRFRKR, on 09/16/2008, -2/+37Can someone explain how Logicexe and emkajii's comments are like how they are???
      • sadsadrobot, on 09/16/2008, -0/+17SPRFRKR: Hivemind.
      • abadonn, on 09/17/2008, -3/+2*cough* NERDS *cough*

        But I mean that with all the love.
      • rudeboyskunk, on 09/17/2008, -3/+5I love that you guys are actually arguing about this.
      • Logicexe, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2rudeboyskunk, it's just something nerds do. We like sitting around and discussing the capabilities of ships that don't exist, and trying to make sense of an entirely fictional universe. We're kinda like theologians, except we know where reality begins and ends.

        Oh and SPRFRKR, we have have the same answer because we're correct. It's the only logical conclusion :p
      • rudeboyskunk, on 09/19/2008, -0/+1Oh, I love Star Wars and I know everything they're talking about. I'm a total nerd, I play WoW, LoTR is my favorite book series ever, etc etc, but I try not to let it run my life.
    • solid12345, on 09/16/2008, -2/+40What I want to know is how the ***** does the Death Star get around, does it just propel itself in space at 5 mph?

      And how do you hide something that big? If it was just sitting outside Aldeeran for years being built wouldn't they launch a pre-emptive strike on it?
      • Rev0lver, on 09/16/2008, -0/+16Thats no moon...q
      • ybnormalman, on 09/16/2008, -0/+23The Death Star was equipped with massive a hyperdrive array. While it wasn't nearly as fast as a Star Destroyer, it could travel through hyperspace just like any other ship.
      • gullevek, on 09/16/2008, -0/+12In one of the Star Wars books it is described that the death star was hidden between black holes so they could built it without beeing seen.

        Makes Movie 3 crap than because they built it in open space with just a tiny shield generator below ...
      • FreakinRepublic, on 09/16/2008, -0/+15First, the Death Star was constructed at Despayre not right above Alderaan. and Second, Alderaan was a peaceful world with no defenses, and the Rebels had no idea the Imperials were building this thing until Princes Leia was charged with the duty of getting the stolen plans into Rebel Leaders hands. The only reason Vader choose Alderaan was because of Princes Leia....lol god I'm a geek...
      • emkajii, on 09/16/2008, -1/+7gullevek: That was the prototype Death Star, which was designed and constructed at the Maw Installation, and which was nothing more than a low-powered superlaser in a hollow metal frame. The actual, full-on Death Star was built above the prison world of Despayre.
      • Suricou, on 09/16/2008, -0/+27The Death Star doesn't move. It scares the universe into moving around it.
      • DiggGeek24, on 09/16/2008, -0/+20Ok guys we just went from geek level 5 to geek level 45 and I love it
      • Acqua206, on 09/17/2008, -1/+7If we're going to get technical, the whole 1m^2 hole in the Death Star is utter BS. It takes jigawatts of power to get hydrogen atoms at 99.999% of light, i.e. LHC. Everyone and their mother seems to have a hyperdrive unit on their ships in the Star Wars universe. Why don't they get some Japanese kamakazi pilot to have an X wing fighter go light speed into the death star. The amount of energy carried by the fighter would be astronomical, more than enough to destroy plantets, let alone a death star.
      • PhoenixAvatar2, on 09/17/2008, -0/+4hyperdrive !=lightspeed. The idea of hyperdrive is to go into some kind of subspace and that would take much less energy than hitting and going past lightspeed in real space. Also dodges the whole E=mc squared problem.
    • DeathStrawberry, on 09/16/2008, -0/+15Stavrosian is right. And isn't it pretty likely that destroying the planet would at least severely damage the moon as well? Not to mention send it floating in space with no planet to revolve around.
      • Gerz1219, on 09/16/2008, -2/+14Yeah, but character stupidity doesn't really qualify as a plot hole. Tarkin waited to revolve around Yavin because he was a cocky douche who figured the Death Star was invincible. I think he wanted the challenge of engaging the Rebels in a space battle just to disprove the silly notion that the schematics could provide a weakness, and firing directly on Yavin would have been cheating.

        Also, the movie is written and directed by the same guy who did Phantom Menace. There were warning signs early on, people.
      • DarkPrincess74, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3oooOOoo maybe jar jar was on the first death star when it blew up?

        Who knows in 20 years when the prequels get remade like the originals than maybe jar jar will be removed entirely. I think they also just take the prequels and make them into one really good movie by taking out most of the crap in them.
    • ybnormalman, on 09/16/2008, -0/+23Geeking out here a little (ok, a lot), but wasn't Yavin a gas planet? I'm assuming the Death Star needed something solid to shoot at, and/or they were smart enough to not risk detonating that much gas at such a close range.
      • chrisOrbit, on 09/16/2008, -1/+7Gas planets usually still have a solid core (if I am remembering science class right). Even if it didn't have a solid core to blow up, couldnt they just shoot through the planet? The layers of atmosphere can't be that hard to penetrate.
      • apostledeets, on 09/16/2008, -3/+14I heard a death star penetrated and shot through your mom last night
      • PhoenixAvatar2, on 09/17/2008, -0/+4All gasses aren't explosive... You're thinking gasoline.
    • VigRoco, on 09/16/2008, -2/+11Or better yet, why didn't they just warp the Death Star to the other side of the planet.
      • Gerz1219, on 09/16/2008, -1/+11It's actually stated pretty clearly in ANH that faster-than-light travel in the Star Wars universe involves moving really fast in a straight line through physical space (that's why Han Solo has that line about bouncing too close to a supernova). So this implies that there's actually no way for the Death Star to get to the other side of the planet without making two different hyperspace trips, which would take longer and use a lot more energy than just using the non-hyperspace engines.
      • infiniphunk, on 09/16/2008, -0/+2No, because they should still have been able to travel to a point close enough to Yavin and have the moon in the line of fire.

      • PhoenixAvatar2, on 09/17/2008, -0/+3One of the big things in the extended universe is the idea of mass shadows. You can't engage hyperdrive if you're feeling the effects of the gravity of a planet or star or something and if you get too close you'd be ripped to shreds. You can hyperdrive into a mass shadow if you don't go too far in but you'll need to fly out to leave.
      • EvilCan, on 09/19/2008, -0/+1This is an awesome thread...
    • tpodr, on 09/16/2008, -3/+38There is the classic: at the end of Ep 3, we see the beginnings of the first Death Star being built. Then 18 or more years later we learn it is finally fully operational. WTF? You control the galaxy, but take nearly two decades to built a Death Star? Damn contractors!

      Then suddenly a second new Death Star is halfway built in the time it takes Luke to get his overnight degree in the Jedi arts?

      Maybe they took a (time traveled) clue from "Contact": why build one when you can build two for twice the price.
      • NJank, on 09/16/2008, -0/+31both death stars were already underway. the first one was further along.
      • emkajii, on 09/16/2008, -1/+21Building a planet-sized ball of metal stuffed with cutting-edge electronics tends to take a while. Hell, it's taken Boston years to build a few goddamn roads.

        As for the second, well, I assume that they intended to build more than one. After all, a galaxy is a pretty big place. Having only one Death Star would be like America having only one carrier battle group.
      • Logicexe, on 09/16/2008, -0/+22The first Death Star was built in secret, which might have slowed down construction considering that the Empire was still consolidating its power. It was also the first time something that large and powerful was ever built. They could have run into many unforeseen problems, which would have resulted in even worse delays considering The Empire's "screw up and Vader chokes you to death with the force" policy.
      • bpeacock22, on 09/16/2008, -0/+7Thought of that too. Can only assume they started the 2nd after they had the first one in the works. Since it is bigger and better, they must have started a while after the first one to make the modifications.
      • reticulate, on 09/16/2008, -1/+10The actual reason for this plot hole is that George Lucas is a ***** writer.
      • frazw, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5Sorry to geek out but that's not a good plot hole.
        Both could have been started at the same time a large one which would take longer but be more powerful and in the meantime a smaller, less powerful one (but still more powerful than any other weapon) to establish dominance.
        As for the 18 years build time. IT IS THE SIZE OF A MOON!!!!!! I'd be quite happy if something that size was built so fast.
      • kinglenster, on 09/16/2008, -0/+4A small moon, but a moon still the same.
    • Kerblotto, on 09/16/2008, -1/+2waste of energy
    • kingmanic, on 09/16/2008, -0/+7It might be that the deathstar didn't have the firepower to take out a gas giant (which is usually much larger then a rocky planet). It already takes enormous amounts of energy to vaporize a rocky planet (~the total energy output of the sun for a year), so a gas giant which may be 1000 times the mass may present a insurmountable challenge.
    • mvader, on 09/16/2008, -0/+2No one seems to have pointed out that Yavin is a gas giant.
      Maybe the laser wouldn't have worked so well on ummm... gas...

      Edit: Ah.. kingmanic got that in before me while I was writing...
    • tadpoleontheweb, on 09/16/2008, -14/+3You guys are seriously debating what the Death Star (which, by the way, doesn't exist) can and cannot do? Jeepers.
      • FasmTrout, on 09/16/2008, -0/+22This is Digg, AND Star Wars. Do not test us.
      • AbsurdParadox, on 09/16/2008, -1/+13And never say Jeepers again. Ever.
      • PhoenixAvatar2, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1The Death Star doesn't exist? Thank GOD! I've been living in fear all my life! Every night I've gone to sleep, wondering if when I woke up they world would still be in one piece. It's like a great weight has been lifted from my shoulders. Thank You!!!
    • FasmTrout, on 09/16/2008, -1/+32This is the best thread ever!
    • theodenking, on 09/16/2008, -0/+9No, the entire plot hinging on the ability of furry little gnome things defeating a hugely advanced evil empire which controls an entire galaxy is the most obvious hole.
      • Suricou, on 09/16/2008, -0/+6Do not underestimate the furry.
      • MarrowMan, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3I've always hated those dwarf Wookie *****
    • bbqturtle, on 09/16/2008, -1/+8or becoming a Jedi is easier than getting a cub scout merit badge.....

      CUB SCOUTS DON'T HAVE MERIT BADGES (angry scowl)
    • Impressa, on 09/17/2008, -1/+0hey dud, the rebel base was on the moon, not on the planet. and as NJank said both death stars were under construction during the time lapse between ep 3 and ep 4
  • Sublex, on 09/16/2008, -67/+23Star Wars = Over-rated.

    Gah. I'm going get buried so hard. >.>
    • SpookyPig, on 09/16/2008, -10/+7I would digg you up because I'm not a big fan of star wars...

      But, if you say so *buries*
  • Quirked, on 09/16/2008, -6/+264How about Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire? The whole convoluted plot of appears to be to get Harry into the Triwizard Tournament so he can almost fail at every event, and then win in the end and touch the Triwizard cup so he is transported where Voldemort is. Couldn't someone have just handed him the cup and said, "Here, hold this for a minute."?
    • souljaboytellem, on 09/16/2008, -1/+48lol, good point

      Also, about the time-travel thing, it was true up until the fifth book, where the stock was destroyed, a little late but J.K Rowling took care of that hole
      • ronaldinho, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1And to add to it, the massacre really began in book 6. Until book 5, only 2 protagonists died (Sirius Black, Cedric Diggory)
    • jezsik, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5Ha, ha! Thanks for that.
    • mcphatty, on 09/16/2008, -2/+30You said the forbidden name!
    • petebot, on 09/16/2008, -2/+7No, Voldemort actually had people working for him to help Harry win the tri-wizard tournament.
    • demigod, on 09/16/2008, -0/+18haha i got a good chuckle out of that. It's true too but what i think is he wanted to kill Harry and have him warp back to the center of the turni and have them think the turni killed him. At that point Voldemort still wasn't known to be back and I'm pretty sure he wanted to keep it that way.
      • Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -1/+8That is correct, however the abbreviation you are looking for is "tourney".
    • bonk2k, on 09/16/2008, -5/+4That movie made me hate Harry Potter in general. In that movie he just stumbled around like a wuss while everyone else basically helped him cheat. He did next to nothing for himself and were supposed to think of him as a hero or something?
      • Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -0/+11Read the books, skip the movies. It didn't come across as pathetic in the books. He was forced into a situation which he did not ask for, and then he was held up to a high standard and failure was unacceptable. Dealing with that pressure shaped his character, but that is something that lasted for more than just one book.
      • diggydougie, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2I've thought of him like that from the beginning. He never took the initiative to do anything. He is thrust into situations where he is way over his head and he stumbles through. He seems more oblivious than brave most of the time.
    • Suricou, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1Or sent him a teleport-spell-rigged letter.
    • eyefork2, on 09/17/2008, -15/+4SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!
    • AmidTheSnow, on 09/17/2008, -1/+3You visit Reddit, don't you?
    • Slique22, on 09/17/2008, -0/+8It might be a bit difficult for someone to HAND Harry the cup. Y'know, considering that they'd get zapped away by it themselves. ;p
    • vanjab, on 09/17/2008, -1/+0Turning the cup into a portkey, from a distance with a spell, is a hell of a lot less noticable to dumbledore than walking in, taking it, and telling harry "look i stole it for you! touch it!".

      Also, the books clearly say time keepers cant bring people back from the dead. They had to go back in time BEFORE sirius died.
  • isshiah, on 09/16/2008, -0/+327Time travel always makes plot holes.
    • fani, on 09/16/2008, -0/+46Except Primer I think. I don't really think I could find a plot hole in it - in fact, I haven't been able to comprehend all the time lines in it yet... ouch. That is one puzzle of a movie.
      • oldhick, on 09/16/2008, -0/+26Great flick.
      • falstaff, on 09/16/2008, -0/+28There could be a hundred plot holes in the second half, but I would never notice, since that was after my mind exploded.
      • HangoverBoy, on 09/16/2008, -1/+15Yeah, Primer is the exception since the entire plot is somewhat vague of how events actually occur and who is who.

        Maybe they did that on purpose specifically to avoid any unintended plot holes.
    • MrM4nager, on 09/16/2008, -1/+7And worm holes
      • LogicBomB, on 09/16/2008, -1/+7A worm hole creates about as much of a paradox or plot hole as a standard door does...
    • YancyFryJr, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3Probably one of the best-handled time-travel stories ever:

      http://ieng9.ucsd.edu/~mfedder/zombies.html

      "All You Zombies" - Robert Heinlein
    • mrrothstein, on 09/16/2008, -0/+2I thought 12 monkeys got it pretty close. Except for the phone calls
    • Jack9, on 09/16/2008, -7/+1Failure to do basic research or thinking gets this marked inaccurate (not withstanding the Harry Potter hole)
    • rayearth42, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3I think The Time Traveler's Wife was pretty solid. Not a movie yet but it's to be released at the end of the year.
    • Stevethegreat, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5The fact is that it doesn't have to be, in fact all time paradoxes are inherent ONLY because of our biases of how we view the world.

      If Time Travel is possible AT ALL, it would require massive amounts of energy and those amounts of energy would create a door to an alternative timeline -which in fact co-exists with ours but due to the lack of the aforementioned massive amount of energy we can't normally build a door to. An alternative timeline implies that I may meet my alternative self but this guy won't be me it would the alternative me, the one that didn't time travelled (a cosmic twin, if you like), I would still be the one who did. And if I kill my grandpa I would only kill the one who didn't have a grandson that time traveled, the original would had been alive as of virtue of me existing, etc, etc...
      • BingoPower, on 09/17/2008, -1/+5Can you just say that again... you lost me after "The fact is"....
    • twoyups, on 09/16/2008, -0/+2I see a few replies getting dugg down here. Is there a group of diggers who would like to actually enlighten us on how time travel works??
    • tadpoleontheweb, on 09/16/2008, -0/+4I already knew you were going to say that.
    • Elranzer, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3Even in Chrono Trigger, there was a plot hole in that the "bad" future never existed so Chrono and company never learned about Lavos. It was pretty much the basis for the split dimensions in Chrono Cross.
    • SwingCorey, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2Bill & Ted is the only time travel movie to have covered all their bases.

      Back to the Future... there should never have been a 3rd movie, because Biff could never have returned the DeLorean to 2025 after having changed the future by giving 1955 Biff the book of sports stats.

      Should I have said "spoiler alert" first?
      • carpeclunes, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1How does Bill and Ted cover its bases? They send back some of the greatest people in history, who now have knowledge of the future, and nothing happens. Joan of Ark knows that she is killed. Napoleon learns that he loses. I think that would change history a little bit.
    • dmoore764, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1"Summer Time Machine Blues" does it right
    • CaptainGirf, on 09/17/2008, -1/+1Dr. Who is flawless and you're all wrong.

      Horribly wrong.
    • zjbird, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1In the second BTTF, the old Biff goes back in time to change the future, but when he goes back forward in time, he comes to the normal future, not the "Biff Changed" future.

      *EDIT*
      ...damnit SwingCorey..
    • MrJagil, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1Bender's Big Score
    • MasterCPO117, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1I always thought Terminator was a good example of this.

      A) John Conner sends Kyle Reese back in time
      B) Kyle and Sarah get it on
      C) John is born--->A

      John Conner is directly responsible for his own birth....
  • Fhwqhgads, on 09/16/2008, -32/+37Thats why I thought Sixth Sense was one of the dumbest movies ever made.
    • GutterMoo, on 09/16/2008, -7/+6I agree with you on this one. Thankfully I paid like $1 to see it at some discount theater. It was so bad and I generally love Bruce Willis as an actor.
    • skeen07, on 09/16/2008, -4/+62Then you're sort of stupid. Willis' ghost was delusional. "They see what they want to see."
      • Stavrosian, on 09/16/2008, -13/+2The biggest cop-out in all of fantasy.

        "Why has everybody on earth forgotten that half of the planet was murdered by giant, walking daisies wielding katanas and singing 'Guantanamera' through their lacy wedding veils?"

        "Oh, people see what they want to see and just ignore the things they can't understand."
      • falstaff, on 09/16/2008, -1/+45I always figured it was like watching someone else's dream. While you're dreaming, the most illogical things make perfect sense. It's only after you wake up that you realize how ridiculous it all was. Who's to say being dead isn't like an extended dream (in this hypothetical movie universe, at least)?
      • monkeysama, on 09/16/2008, -6/+2I'm with falstaff. I think it was a retarded movie, but not for that reason.
    • 0xbaadf00d, on 09/16/2008, -1/+11But what a tweeest!
    • roebeet, on 09/16/2008, -1/+41SPOILER ALERT (assuming you didn't read the article):

      Sixth Sense made perfect sense to me. It's like he was dreaming - he only saw the fragments that we did, but assumed it was reality. The wedding ring at the end was when he was "lucid", finally realizing that he was dead.

      Greatest twist ending ever, imo. I saw it with no prior knowledge of the film, and I was floored at the end. I liked how he gave you an earlier "twist" assuming (woman in red) that people would think that was the twist ending.

      • PhoenixAvatar2, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2I lucked out. Had the movie spoiled for me a few years before I saw it (the teacher asked "everyone's seen the movie, right?" and I was too embarassed to raise my hand) but I didn't remember that he was dead until right before it was revealed.
    • LemonChicken, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1@ OP: You must not watch too many movies.
      • goosegoosegoose, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1You've got it backwards. I think he/she has seen enough to know that M. Night Shamalama is an overrated hack.
  • Smokeydabear, on 09/16/2008, -0/+166What about the gaping plot hole in Showgirls? How could she get a high-end dancing job without the proper identification, such as a driver's license and social security card?
    • skeen07, on 09/16/2008, -0/+66I recall a story where a 15 year old had been stripping at a club for months, until she was found out. Somehow, I don't think these people care too much for authenticity.
      • Scrappy1850, on 09/16/2008, -0/+25which club?
      • skeen07, on 09/16/2008, -1/+9I believe it was, "Scrappy's, est. 1850".
      • doiveo, on 09/16/2008, -1/+7Strip joints caring about authenticity ... you just blew my mind.
      • cawpin, on 09/16/2008, -2/+8That's what she said.
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      • Lavarock, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2I seriously know a girl who did exactly that at that exact age.
    • doiveo, on 09/16/2008, -0/+80For a sec I thought you were going to be really rude talking about showgirls gaping hole.
    • MysticSavage, on 09/16/2008, -1/+6You obviously don't know how we truck strippers into Canada.
    • SEANWOOKIE, on 09/17/2008, -1/+1A 17 year old girl I knew that overdosed on drugs worked at one for a while.
      http://mydeathspace.com/article/2007/06/16/Stephan ...
  • c010rb1indusa, on 09/16/2008, -2/+32I've always thougth about Empire Strikes Back like that. Don't get me wrong it's one of my favorite movies of all time but he gets trained in like a weekend, really? I mean it took Anakin 10 years between episode 1 and 2 to develop the thought that he could take on count duku by himself. So in ten years he couldn't go from a alien beating pod racer to a jedi apprentice by losing to one of the most powerful jedis in the universe but his son could take on the most feared and deadly after 1 weekend of training...yea right
    • BuddyDoQ, on 09/16/2008, -0/+27Hey, the kid's a natural!
      • PhoenixAvatar2, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1But Anakin was supposed to be even more of a natural...
    • fmoliveira, on 09/16/2008, -0/+32The spaceship was travelling faster than light, with time dilation, it passed a lot of time for Luke during that space chase :P
      • carpeclunes, on 09/17/2008, -0/+3That means the entire series took place over the course of thousands of years, what with everyone hitting the light speed button so much.
    • thinboyslim, on 09/16/2008, -2/+10Isn't it always said that he never finished his training and was therefore susceptible to the dark side??

      Tyler: Hitting bottom is not a weekend retreat, it's not a damn seminar. Stop trying to control everything and just let go. Let go!
      • souljaboytellem, on 09/16/2008, -0/+8"There are other solutions to fighting"
        "Like what?"
        "like GETTING THE HELL OUTTA HERE!!!'
        "Nah just kidding could you imagine if i was like that?"
      • Flashypoo, on 09/17/2008, -0/+4Why did you randomly quote Fight Club?
      • cesclaveria, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1the first rule of fight club...
      • thinboyslim, on 09/22/2008, -0/+1Why did I randomly quote fight club??

        That's like saying why did you randomly slap that strippers ass?
    • solid12345, on 09/16/2008, -0/+24Dude, he seduced his sister, his powers are beyond your comprehension.
    • steelclash84, on 09/16/2008, -0/+22Lot of good all that training did for him. Obi wan cuts his arms and legs off and leaves him to burn, then his son comes back to own him in a light-saber duel. What a noob!
    • Logicexe, on 09/16/2008, -0/+6It must have taken a while to get to Besbin. Their Hyperdrive was down so whatever method they had to get there it would have taken a while. Han even mentions at one point that he thinks they could make it. This is a spaceship built to haul freight around the galaxy, don't you think they would have had much more than a weekend's supply of provisions? Especially considering that they were working for the rebels so they probably carried a lot of emergency rations around with them.
    • valarking, on 09/16/2008, -3/+7You're saying that Empire is flawed because of something the PREQUEL did?

      Whoa, man. Rethink that one.
    • frazw, on 09/17/2008, -0/+3Luke already had some power he displayed no huge improvement during Yoda's training within ESB. It is quite feasible that they had barely begun before Luke ran out. Yoda was pissed off after all.
      There is also no way to tell (at least from the films) how long passes between Bespin when he is pretty ***** and the return to tatooine when he is much better. I always got the impression a considerable amount of time like a few months had passed. Luke discovering his powers over a few months (he is supposed to be extremely gifted) and Lando infiltrating Jabba's palace. Boba Fett's presence doesn't mean he'd only just arrived perhaps just that he stuck around. When Luke goes back to Yoda he'd learned a lot on his own.
      As for Anakin, apart from being an annoying *****, perhaps Obi Wan is a ***** teacher, also there is the fact that time was not a factor and they were taking it slow to try and make sure he didn't fall to the dark side.
      With Luke they didn't have the luxury of time.

      I'm not saying there isn't a hole there the timings are a little off but not as badly as suggested.

      Right that geeking out should tide me over for a few weeks.
      /geek
    • Okari, on 09/17/2008, -0/+4If I remember correctly, Luke went back to Dagobah after ESB to train more, then went to Tattooine to plan Han's rescue.
  • MagMan68Classic, on 09/16/2008, -6/+14Dugg for BTTF thumbnail.
    I'm about to read the article anyway
  • Revolution101, on 09/16/2008, -22/+4i thought this said gaping ass holes.
    i was so excited.
  • diggspellcheck, on 09/16/2008, -5/+209And don't forget the McFly's hired Biff at the end? The person who tried to rape Lorraine?
    • solid12345, on 09/16/2008, -1/+123Every upper middle-class family should have a rapist working in their home.
    • comineeyeaha, on 09/16/2008, -0/+29Bad form, George.
    • lisaawesome, on 09/16/2008, -2/+34Give rapists a chance man.
    • FasmTrout, on 09/16/2008, -1/+7Biff is a bastard.
    • tdogg241, on 09/16/2008, -0/+27Hello? Anybody home? Think, McFly. Think!
    • LindsRay01, on 09/20/2008, -1/+010 bucks said that it was Lorraine's idea...McFly can't be good in bed, right?
  • Haroshia, on 09/16/2008, -15/+48 Classic...Gaping...Holes
  • BXRWXR, on 09/16/2008, -9/+100Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back:

    "You know the plot. Don't play that game."
    • solid12345, on 09/16/2008, -2/+34I tried to play Super Empire Strikes Back, couldn't get past the first level.
      • mrwright613, on 09/17/2008, -0/+9***** that game
      • SteeleyDan, on 09/17/2008, -3/+6***** you, two of my friends died trying to play that game
      • cesclaveria, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1that game was so freaking hard that i actually believe you.
    • Donnshin, on 09/17/2008, -0/+0That made me lol in real life.
  • igorsr, on 09/16/2008, -2/+22BTTF rulez!
  • toxicityj, on 09/16/2008, -4/+89The star wars plothole is crap. The Falcon didn't have its hyperdrive so it was flying around at regular speed. Which means it took a long-ass time to get to Bespin.
    • Fhwqhgads, on 09/16/2008, -3/+62Then they would have died of old age, starved to death, or run out of fuel. Do you have any idea how huge space really is? Unless the planets in Star Wars are very close together, like the Earth and the moon, it still doesn't add up.
      • ironhide, on 09/16/2008, -1/+65Do we know how fast their non-hyperdrive engine is?
      • BrewBeau, on 09/16/2008, -0/+9@ironhide

        Well, it'll make .2 past lightspeed with the hyperdrive. What does that work out to without?

        I guess they tried to cover their tracks by looking for a system in the area, but why were they so trusting and shocked when they found Vader in Bespin? The empire had to know they couldn't make the jump or they would have by then. So, of course they would have sent a garrison to any of the systems you could travel to without a hyperdrive.
      • toxicityj, on 09/16/2008, -0/+15that's an understatement because they're not just flying to another planet. they're flying to another solar system entirely. However, star wars is some high-tech "futuristic" stuff, so it's not that farfetched to say that they go fast enough to get around fairly quickly.

        Also, Bespin was really close to where they were when they escaped the star destroyers.
        http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa ...
        bottom left of the outter rim
      • Nidy1, on 09/16/2008, -0/+4@BrewBeau
        Because who would have thought Lando would be a traitor!?
      • staticneuron, on 09/16/2008, -4/+6@toxicityj

        A LONG TIME AGO In a galaxy far far away, doesn't sound Futuristic does it?
      • NJank, on 09/16/2008, -0/+38"Do you have any idea how huge space really is?"

        Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
      • emkajii, on 09/16/2008, -0/+7Space is very big. Of course, we have absolutely no idea how powerful sublight drives are in Star Wars. Ships seem to make quick turns, implying they're no slouches at acceleration, and in a world where everything runs on Plot-onium, it's certainly possible that they could accelerate indefinitely. Near-light speeds are by no means out of the question.

        As for food supplies? I see no reason why a spacegoing light freighter designed to evade the authorities for long periods of time (as Solo is both a smuggler and a rebel) wouldn't have a few months' worth of food.
      • dillibob, on 09/17/2008, -0/+8i miss nerdy digg
    • iamgreg007, on 09/16/2008, -9/+1And does Luke's crappy X-Wing have hyperdrive to catch up with the gang in Cloud City? Or did Dagobah happen to be next door neighbors to Cloud City?
      • toxicityj, on 09/16/2008, -0/+20of course the xwing has a hyperdrive. It's not a TIE fighter. FOOL! I was trained in your star wars arts by count dooku!
      • NJank, on 09/16/2008, -1/+3wow. count dooku? i just played video games.
    • Shawn4168, on 09/16/2008, -0/+14Exactly...finding the nearest planet isn't exactly like finding the closest McDonald's...just because Bespin was close, that's in relative terminology. Close could easily mean weeks or months away, as opposed to years away without a hyperdrive. And it's a big ship, I'm sure they had enough food to last.
    • Blitzwing84, on 09/16/2008, -0/+17It look slightly longer than 12 parsecs.
      • KeillRandor, on 09/16/2008, -12/+1That doesn't quite work in this context...

        (Parsecs being distance, not time).
      • HangoverBoy, on 09/16/2008, -11/+1Parsecs aren't a time measurement, noob
      • clumsytime, on 09/16/2008, -0/+17KeillRandor and HangoverBoy should hand over their nerd cards (probably good for you anyway...)

        Regarding the Kessel Run, Solo wasn't trying to say he did it faster by cutting time, he was saying he did it in a shorter distance by getting closer to the black holes in the Maw Black Hole Cluster without getting sucked in, which implies a quicker trip due to the shorter distance.

        (Just in case you two wondered why you got dugg down...)
    • Fhwqhgads, on 09/16/2008, -0/+38This is hilarious reading all this Star Wars geekiness unfold :)
    • 1807, on 09/16/2008, -6/+3Really? 'Cause it took about 2 seconds in the film.
    • odessadark, on 09/16/2008, -0/+6And Luke completed his training between "Empire" and "Jedi"... he was self-taught; the son of the most powerful Jedi ever could probably handle that.

      • fattyb, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1Yeah, someone writing an article on the movie who says "You know the plot. Don't play that game." should have known that... I'm glad you pointed this out odessadark
    • goosegoosegoose, on 09/16/2008, -1/+4Exactly. Horrible attempt at discovering a plot hole.
    • WhiteHamster, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1This is exactly why the author put it at number one, you do realize it right?
  • kishosingh, on 09/16/2008, -2/+8"Tom Cruise is convicted of a murder he hasn't committed yet, by a team of psychics called "precogs,"" in the movies basically writers moves towards hypothesis.
  • ironhide, on 09/16/2008, -5/+59There was another plot hole in "Fantastic Voyage". The people were so small that oxygen molecules would have been too large for them to breathe.
    • Nilatir, on 09/16/2008, -7/+12Um, I don't think you really have a grasp on how small the molecules are. We're not talking long-chain protiens or hydrocarbons here.
      • ironhide, on 09/16/2008, -0/+21We're talking about people so small that a white blood cell was almost the size of their sub
      • doctornkul, on 09/17/2008, -0/+3So?
        White blood cells are measured in micrometers. That's 10 to the -6 meter. Atoms are measured in picometers which are 10^ -12. Oxygen is 60pm for a single atom, so perhaps twice as much for O2. Seems reasonable to me.
      • srsgd8, on 09/17/2008, -0/+0You guys would be right, if you weren't so hopelessly wrong.

        You're considering the wrong issue. Even IF the oxygen molecules could fit into the lungs, how well do you think they are going to react with molecules that have been shrunk by approx a factor of 60?
    • micro506, on 09/16/2008, -0/+7Wasn't there a miniaturized oxygen supply on-board the ship?
      • ironhide, on 09/16/2008, -0/+11yeah - but remember they took in emergency oxygen from the guys lungs at one point. That would have been regular sized.
    • XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 09/16/2008, -1/+2Yeah, you really no have idea of how small a single element is.
    • WhiteHamster, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1There's a thesis here somewhere i just know it
      "The minimum scale a human can be decreased in size while still completely functional"
      Hypothesis: Between midget and amoeba.
  • kidathinnes, on 09/16/2008, -11/+7This could be one of my favorite Cracked articles of all time. These are things me and my friends constantly debate about when we watch these movies. Especially Empire and Back to the Future.
    • BingoPower, on 09/17/2008, -3/+3Wow. Watching movies with you must be about as fun as a fart in a space-suit.
      • kidathinnes, on 09/17/2008, -3/+1I did say "these movies" you ***** retard. To sum up my comment for a ***** like you, "I like this article, I have noticed these things as well." How this says anything about watching movies with me I have no clue. Go ***** yourself.
    • WhiteHamster, on 09/17/2008, -1/+2That's the fun of watching movies with other people, if some ridiculous ***** goes down, you point it out and laugh at it.
      • kidathinnes, on 09/17/2008, -2/+1Thanks for pointing that out douchbag.
  • cizzymac, on 09/16/2008, -0/+160The bigger plot hole in Back to the Future was in Part 2 when Doc Brown explains to Marty that they can't travel back to 2015 to stop Old Biff from getting the Almanac because of the split timeline. If that were the case, how the ***** did Old Biff come back to the original 2015 after giving Young Biff the Almanac in 1955? Shouldn't the time tangent happened for him as well? Doc Brown and Marty should have been either trapped in 2015, or their timeline should have been erased from existence.

    Edit: I am a ***** nerd
    • fletcher008, on 09/16/2008, -1/+13This is EXACTLY what i was going to comment on. I saw BTTF 2 again and i couldnt get passed that glaring plot hole.
    • Spideristic, on 09/16/2008, -0/+49Old Biff didn't reach the original 2015. That's why the writers made sure to get Jennifer out of the McFly house, just as Old Biff landed. It is very likely the 2015 had changed and the ripple effect would eventually catch up to Marty and Doc as well.

      http://www.bttf.com/film_faq.htm

      Q: When Doc and Marty are in 1985-A, Doc says they can't return to the future to stop Biff from stealing the DeLorean, because it would be the wrong future. But if that's true, how did Old Biff manage to get back to the same future that he left? Shouldn't he have come back to a different future?

      A: As should be clear from the answer to the previous question, we believe Old Biff DID indeed return to a different future -- a "2015-A," which would have transformed around Marty, Doc, Jennifer and Einstein (just as Doc explains how 1985-A would change into 1985 and instantly transform around Jennifer and Einstein). This would happen AFTER Old Biff returned with the DeLorean. For this reason, we made sure that Doc had caught Jennifer and exited the McFly Townhouse before Old Biff returned. Thus, by the time Marty and Doc are carrying Jennifer back to the DeLorean, there COULD be other residents in that townhouse -- or perhaps the McFlys still live there. It is just as believable that the physicality of the neighborhood did NOT change as it is to believe that it did -- so we didn't change it. We decided not to make anything of this idea because this is one of those difficult time travel concepts that general audiences have a real hard time understanding. (Try explaining this stuff to your mother and you'll see what we mean.) A detailed explanation of it would have slowed down the story, and most of the audience doesn't ever think about it. That's why we made certain things ambiguous and left various things open for interpretation in hopes that the possibility of at least one or two explanations would be better than a "definitive" explanation that you could find holes in. Let's face it, time travel is fantasy, so there's no way to "prove" anything. As filmmakers, we try to create a set of rule for our stories and stick by them, and stay consistent within the little "universe" that we've created.

      • SunathAlgeraan, on 09/16/2008, -0/+12Dugg for "Try explaining this stuff to your mother and you'll see what we mean."
      • yannickmartin, on 09/16/2008, -0/+12In addition to this, I don't remember if it's in the actual movie or in the cut scenes, but we see the Old Biff come back to 2015 and die off or fade away, which shows the change as well.
      • cizzymac, on 09/16/2008, -4/+1Doesn't explain Biff's broken cane remaining in the DeLorean.
      • 1807, on 09/16/2008, -2/+11My Brain is full, can I go now?
      • talkingwires, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1I don't believe Old Biff fading away was filmed, but the writers do discuss it in the DVD commentary. When he gets out of the time machine, he grabs his chest, like he's having a heart attack, before he stumbles out of frame. It's a small thing that is easy to miss, but the writers put it in to plug this potential plot hole. They felt that having him start to fade away would have confused audiences and derailed the plot of the movie if they had to explain it.

        EDIT: Soory, looks like they did film the scene: http://www.bttf.com/film_faq.htm
    • steelclash84, on 09/16/2008, -0/+2I thought the issue was that they were in the alternate 1985 when they came back from 2015, and they couldn't go forward to stop biff from giving younger biff the almanac because the damage had already been done. That's why they had to figure out when old biff originally gave young biff the almanac and go back and stop it then before the alternate 1985 was created.
    • Groady, on 09/16/2008, -0/+7When Old Biff returns to 2015 he is clearly in pain when he exits the DeLorean and falls down out of frame. They cut a shot directly after this where he fades away (because he is dead at this point in the alternate timeline?). They cut the shot because it would have been confusing for people to understand it at that point in the movie. I'm pretty sure it's on the special features of the dvd.
      • cizzymac, on 09/16/2008, -0/+8If that's the case, why didn't Biff's broken cane disappear as well?
      • Ismith988, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1it's not, but I understand what you're saying
      • mythicflux, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1It was inside a time machine. I would imagine that the Delorean would pick up some interesting particles that would cause some distortion of space time. Either that or the flux capacitor emitted some kind of distortion that keeps certain elements of time in sync.
    • smaskat, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3In BTTF III, why couldn't they just take the FUEL from Doc's DeLorean and put it into Marty's DeLorean? Explain that one.
      • mythicflux, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1Simple, as part of the preparation of the DeLorean for Marty in 1955 Doc drained all the fuel and other liquids from the vehicle so that they wouldn't have any corrosive effect on the vehicle after 100 years (the car was clearly prepped to survive in the cave) . He probably used the fuel to stoke the fire in his blacksmith shop or perhaps he sold it.

        Here is the car prepped:
        http://bttf.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Burieddmc.jpg

        That or he used up the last of the fuel when drove the car to where he buried it.
      • WhiteHamster, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1That's Marty's DeLorean, but Doc's DeLorean should still have fuel, or the Mr Fusion, right? Its been a little while, my memory is a bit rusty
    • Elranzer, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1My theory is that the "good" 2015 continued to just happen, but the past was cut off from it. When old Biff traveled back to 2015 from 1955, I'm guessing a Biff appeared in both the "bad" 2015 and the "good" 2015. Because to Marty and Doc, the "good" 2015 was still happening.
    • boardthis, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2someone explain to me how the time travel continuum changed the original jennifer into elisabeth shue in #2 & #3.
    • kimathi, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1cizzymac, dugg for edit honesty.
  • iamgreg007, on 09/16/2008, -1/+20Flux capacitor...fluxing...
  • mecharabbit, on 09/16/2008, -2/+58I think it was the pre-cogs who heard Kane say "Rosebud".
  • Darksaber11, on 09/16/2008, -14/+9Almost every single entry on this list is wrong. Seriously, did they even watch these movies, or attempt in any way to understand them?
    • Rev0lver, on 09/16/2008, -0/+27Your argument is compelling. Totally convinced me.
    • Cenobite, on 09/16/2008, -3/+12I have to agree with Darksaber.

      Take the Minority Report one, for example. The author makes the fact that the precogs' "visions" never technically come true out to be an oversight by the writers, yet, if you actually watch the film, that is one of the movie's main ethical themes which is debated ad nauseam in the film itself: Can someone who would have committed a crime be considered "guilty" if he never had the opportunity to commit said crime.

      Overall, I found the quality of writing in this article to be pretty subpar when compared to Cracked's usual high standards.
      • staticneuron, on 09/16/2008, -0/+6Actually its alot more simple than that. There are 3 precogs. They have slightly different views of the same event. When all three are inline, similar enough to the killer actually kills, then it is a precog crime. When one doesn't agree with shared view then that view becomes the "Minority Report".

        Because there is a Minority Report that simply suggest that the precogs are not predicting the future but they are predicting a "likely" future.
      • Loonatickle, on 09/16/2008, -1/+3Close, staticneuron, but that's not all of it.

        What Cruise and Speilberg completely missed--and what is the absolute main point of the story--is that the third precog might have a different vision because it is impacted by the existence of the first (and possibly second) visions. This wouldn't happen often, but it sure would when the focus of the vision is the main precog police guy. Awesome concept, and it's the damn title of the movie, yet they didn't understand it at all.
      • staticneuron, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3No, I don't think so. Loonatickle you seem to be talking about the echo that agatha witnessed. That is not the point. Technically the all witnessed a version that would have happend except after they apprehended the first murderer someone who witnessed the precogs vision followed through with the murder in similar fashion so it would seem like an echo. The Ann Lively case did NOT break the concept of the precogs it only showed how the policing system was fallible.

        What did break the concept was a the cop assisted suicide and the last suicide instead of a murder. The intent and circumstances were there but the precogs were not perfect because of the last minute decisions.

        But as I said before the sheer fact that there was a Minority Report... a precog who did see the same situation differently then that means that their visions dealt with probability instead of actions set in stone.
    • doiveo, on 09/16/2008, -4/+3I have to agree too. They really seem to be grasping at straws here. I counted three that I sort of agreed with but ultimately didn't care about. Lion King? Seriously? It a F'in kids' cartoon. Given Bush's 8 year reign, perhaps Scar could have dried up the lakes.

      You're getting Dugg down for laziness however.
      • representDLV, on 09/16/2008, -4/+3way to make this political, jackass.
    • Scriabin, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5I'm surprised nobody here is pointing out how wrong the supposed 'plothole' for citizen kane is. I guess a lot of the diggers here never saw the movie--a real shame, really. I don't think the cracked writer watched it either, because there was no plothole there. There was someone there when he uttered his last words, his butler.
      • carpeclunes, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1Yes, I thought so too. I haven't seen the movie in a while, but I knew Cracked was wrong about that one.
    • goosegoosegoose, on 09/16/2008, -0/+4The fact that you're getting Dugg down suggests that Digg is full of idiots who probably think Fight Club and The Boondock Saints are the greatest movies ever made.

      I've noticed this alot with Cracked articles. They notice 2-3 movies that have a similar attribute, then ***** their way to finding 5-6 more. Bad writing 101.
  • banmeagaindigg, on 09/16/2008, -14/+7Dugg for 'Gaping'
  • delau, on 09/16/2008, -1/+143Wouldn't it be amazing if someone created an entire website from the concept of this article?

    Oh.

    http://www.moviemistakes.com/
    • BubbaBubberson, on 09/16/2008, -0/+6Dangnabit!! Thanks delau. Looks like I'm not getting any work done today. : P
    • Masuri, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2I looked through that site, and you would have to have some major OCD to even notice most of that *****, not to mention caring about it. Who gives a ***** if the tiniest prop in the least significant scene of the ***** movie ever made has a typo?
  • SunathAlgeraan, on 09/16/2008, -10/+3What is this, the apocalypse? First the Raiders win this weekend, and now a decent article out of Cracked?
  • freshgrease, on 09/16/2008, -0/+9"It also means Yoda's insistence that Jedis start their training as young children isn't because the training's such a long arduous process, but because he's amused by the idea of children knowing how to choke each other with their minds."

    The SW:TESB part was the funniest (as alot of us Star Wars fans think similarly), but this snipet made me fall out of my chair laughing. Thank god I have my own office with a door.
  • gametavern, on 09/16/2008, -2/+22the Minority Report thing is bogus. They saw alternate realities, or realities that can be fabricated. We learn that at the end, which is why they stop the project....right?
  • orangefly, on 09/16/2008, -0/+9if marty goes into the future, wouldn't he be missing for all those years....i give you the flight of the navigator....
  • doiveo, on 09/16/2008, -3/+16I don't agree with Minority Report. The opening scene was them pre-visualizing a murder and the team arresting the perp just before it happens. The fact it doesn't happen is the whole point of the movie! They also explained why they don't see everything - only very traumatic, violent events like murders. It's like cracked watched a different movie.
    • Jsmuli2, on 09/16/2008, -3/+4But the thing is, they are supposed to see the future, but if you see the "real" future, you would see the people getting arrested instead of what would have happened if no one showed up.
      • doiveo, on 09/16/2008, -0/+11dude, watch the movie. it's all there. What they see and don't see is the f'in premise!
      • matu4251, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5better yet, read the novel (philip k. dick)
    • Chronictrees, on 09/16/2008, -3/+13"It's like cracked watched a different movie."

      Or they wrote another mostly ***** article in a hurry to get their site hits.
    • Jsmuli2, on 09/16/2008, -0/+2Agree and decline my first post.
      • doiveo, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1sorry about the harsh tone. Peace?
      • Jsmuli2, on 09/16/2008, -0/+6sorry but I hate everyone equally, even those with good arguments.
    • vurdillac, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5I love how when someone's life is on the line, they still take the time to engrave and shellac a marble, then send it down a winding tube. Uh, how about just put the name up on a monitor or something? It might save some time, especially since you don't seem to have the ability to locate the apartment even after you have the name?
      • HangoverBoy, on 09/16/2008, -1/+10I think the idea is that ball is then considered evidence and is unique enough that it can't be tampered with or duplicated...that's why it's so elaborate.
      • Nidy1, on 09/16/2008, -1/+7@HangoverBoy

        I think you're full of ***** but that sounds so logical that I have to digg it up.
      • WhiteHamster, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2I think they say that in the movie, but couldn't they ALSO put the name up on the monitor and the ball could still come up as an "in the meantime, here's this unique thingie", so you don't have to wait to engrave marble?
      • carpeclunes, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1It is a wood ball, I believe, and they do explain what it is for in the movie. HangoverBoy is correct. But WhiteHamster brings up a good point.
  • bnl771, on 09/16/2008, -14/+84Buried for calling Minority Report a classic...
    • nynety, on 09/16/2008, -0/+26and Harry Potter is?
    • Schmich, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1Almost buried for being to super serial on the Lion King
  • thaglove10, on 09/16/2008, -1/+12I honestly don't even read these "Top 8....." stories without checking to see if it's from Cracked.com. Theirs are pretty much the only ones worth reading.
  • mk3k, on 09/16/2008, -0/+9Minority Report: the book by Phillip K Dick does a better job of explaining it.
    Basically as I remember they have 3 so that they can get a majority or minority report. A minority report (one precog) should be ignored.
    • NJank, on 09/16/2008, -10/+5well *****. what do you know. the title actually meant something. glad they ripped that out of the movie.
      • fangorious, on 09/16/2008, -0/+9they didn't, Cruise kidnapped the precogs demanding to be shown his minority report.
      • paulvq, on 09/16/2008, -0/+9The female scientist explains the minority report in her greenhouse. How did you miss it?
    • drlha, on 09/16/2008, -1/+3Of course the Dick short story ended completely differently to the movie and actually made sense. Speilberg decided that instead of having the nice twist ending that Dick had, to add an entire layer of extra conspiracy crap on to of it to (a) pad out the movie and to (b) further prove that Spielberg doesn't know how to end a movie (other examples: AI).
      • WhiteHamster, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1I tried watching AI and i nearly died.
        "Hey lets make a Pinocchio that sucks. Robots!"
    • jkmyoung, on 09/16/2008, -2/+1the movie completely messed up the Minority Report part, especially as how Cruise doesn't murder the guy. Totally took the cleverness out of the story.
    • sassyjack, on 09/16/2008, -0/+4Spoiler


      My recollection of PKD's story:

      Precog#1: Main character is going to murder a highly important person.
      Precog#2: Because the main character is the only person to have access to the precogs, and will know in advance what will happen, the main character will avoid killing the person.
      Precog#3: Because the main character doesn't think that they will kill the person, they are considered "safe" and that the future is already predetermined, and they will not consciously avoid putting themselves in a position to kill the person. In addition, they will have seen the precogs report that they won't kill. Because of that, they will do exactly what precog #1 saw.

      In this case, the first and third precog's agree. The second precog's report is thrown out, i.e. the Minority Report.
    • Suricou, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5I thought there were three because only three mutant druggie psychic babies survived long enough to be hooked up to the conveniently bloodless brain interface.
    • wingo123, on 09/16/2008, -0/+6Isn't it usually the case that the MAIN point of a PKD story/novel is lost when the movie is made? I think the mind-*****-alternate-reality-future-prediction-past-changing themes in his writing are mostly too heavy to be dealt with in a commercial film. It's got to wrap-up more neatly for a movie audience to buy it. A Scanner Darkly did a fairly decent job, but was only able to do so because of the rotoscoping thingy or whatever.

      But yeah, the eyeball thing always bothered me. What crappy security they have at that place if they didn't immediately revoke his access.
  • tonydcuz, on 09/16/2008, -3/+11those are poor arguments.
  • jamspt, on 09/16/2008, -0/+44I know this is off topic but...
    Maybe it's just me, but I've never spit coffee on my keyboard or monitor, fell out of my chair laughing, or started having epileptic seizures because of something I've read on the internet.

    Am I an unemotional robot, or do you people need to be medicated?
    • Stavrosian, on 09/16/2008, -0/+23You owe me a new keyboard.

      I didn't spit coffee on it or anything, I'm just a very up-front extortionist.
    • NJank, on 09/16/2008, -0/+8Turing test failed.
  • ldkronos, on 09/16/2008, -6/+99I've only read the first page, but so far this list is crap

    Back to the future - Honestly...I can't remember exactly what somebody I met 18 years ago looked like at that time. Especially someone who was only around for a few days. I've also heard bands release songs that I could have swore I heard before. I assume I'm just mistaken and it is just similar.

    Minority Report - He misinterprets what the precog do. They don't see the future as it happens, no matter who tries to intervene. They see the future that will happen if nothing is done about it.

    Sixth Sense - After he was shot, he went into this obsession about helping patients, because he realized how terribly he failed that one kid. In that obsession, he'd be oblivious to much of what goes on around him. Besides that, when tragedies happen, much of what goes on around you becomes a big blur. On top of that...just how often do you go through life thinking "wow...that was strange...did that really just happen like I think it did, or could I actually be dead...hmmm, let me investigate that some".

    Harry Potter - I've never seen the movie, but the keep-time-traveling-until-we-get-it-right thing is nonsense. This was covered in an episode of Doctor Who a few years ago. When you go back, you have to avoid running into yourself, or bad things could happen. When you go back the second time, you've now got 2 selves to avoid. The third time you've got 3. Each time it becomes more difficult, so you need to get it right as soon as possible. Come to think of it, was this handled by Back to the Future II? I vaguely recall Marty trying to avoid his first time traveling self?

    Now on to page 2.
    • Jsmuli2, on 09/16/2008, -1/+4well written, makes sense.
    • ldkronos, on 09/16/2008, -0/+16OK...page 2

      Citizen Kane - Never saw it, and it sounds like it is impossible to comment on without having seen it

      Fantastic Voyage - OK...I never saw this one either, but from the description, this is the first one I can't disagree with.

      The Lion King - I'm not exactly clear what he is considering to be the plot hole here. For the first part, where he talks about Scar, it would be the same as saying George Bush is the plot hole in America. When he talks about the water drying up, it's not that they cause it. There are still groups on earth that think they can pray to control the weather, and depending on whatever random weather happens, they are either considered a success or failure by the tribe. But again, I'm not entirely clear exactly what he's claiming to be the plot hole, so it's hard to address it specifically.

      The Empire Strikes Back - I think it's hard to nail this down, because I don't recall there being anything definitively indicating just how much time has passed. I haven't seen the movie in quite a while, so I can't comment more specifically. This one may or may not have merit.
      • doiveo, on 09/16/2008, -0/+8Highly Recommend Citizen Kane. If you're into film, its' a must.

        Their point is complete ***** however. From IMDB...

        Incorrectly regarded as goofs: In the opening scene, where Charles Kane whispers "Rosebud", it appears he is on his own in the room, while a nurse enters a couple of seconds after he dies. Many often suggest that no one could have heard him whisper the word, as the room appears to be occupied by only Kane himself. However, in the opening scene, the bedroom is only shown in fragments and closeups (this may have been intentional on Welles' part to withhold information) - the room in its entirety is never shown, and thus it is not entirely possible to ascertain that Kane was alone. Indeed, later in the film, Raymond, Kane's butler, informs Thompson the reporter that he was indeed in the room at the time of Kane's demise and heard the word "Rosebud" spoken.

        Other have pointed out that in Empire the light speed drive was broken so the trip would have taken months.
      • ldkronos, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3Ah, thanks for comments on those 2 movies. So it appears Fantastic Voyage is the only of the 8 that holds any merit. Of course, since I haven't seen that movie either, maybe there is something else in the movie that deals with it. However, even giving them the benefit of the doubt, 1 out of 8 isn't too impressive.
      • asnider, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I'm not really sure what the "plot hole" is with regard to the Lion King, either.
    • Jdban, on 09/16/2008, -0/+23In response to: "I've also heard bands release songs that I could have swore I heard before. I assume I'm just mistaken and it is just similar."

      The same thing happens to me whenever nickelback releases a song.
      • onederboy, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1Why do you still listen to Nickelback songs!?!
    • KingBabi, on 09/16/2008, -0/+2*met 30 years ago, but point taken.

      Which Doctor Who ep was that? I may have missed it.
      • ldkronos, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1Season 1, Episode 8: Father's Day
        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0562989/


        And about the 30 years ago: Duh...I guess that's what I get for trying to figure out their ages by approximation by thinking "they were in high school, and now marty is in high school, and she probably got knocked up after high school, so...", instead of just remembering that the present and past dates were very explicitly stated. Thanks for pointing out my stupidity :-)
    • MrSparkle666, on 09/17/2008, -0/+0My thougts exactly.

      I don't understand why this list is being dugg by so many people. It's the worst kind of geeky nitpicking, and the authors logic has more holes than the films themselves. Plot holes in the lion king.. really? C'mon. It's a freaking disney movie about talking animals. FAIL
    • Lavarock, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1You don't have to avoid yourself AGAIN! If you see your previously time traveling self, you can just say "oh, you ***** up, so I need to fix it" and it would only be a LITTLE bit weird, not incomprehensible.
      • ldkronos, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2That depends on the rules of your (for lack of a better term) time-traveling physics. In the Doctor Who episode I cited, such contact is actually a VERY bad thing, threatening to destroy time and space.
  • montezumamike, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5It's really quite simple. Bespin was a few hours away by hyperdrive. They got there without it. It would have taken days, weeks, months, who knows.
  • talonstriker, on 09/16/2008, -0/+5So guys, any plot holes in Sex and the City?
    • indubitably, on 09/16/2008, -2/+26yes, many gaping holes.. and by holes i mean vaginas
    • MoralThreat, on 09/16/2008, -1/+6There's a plot besides the sexual antics of three hookers and their mom?
    • odessadark, on 09/16/2008, -0/+9Samantha likes to *****.

    • Mightbiteyou, on 09/16/2008, -0/+4first step to answer that question is to find a guy who actually saw that.
    • randomstupid, on 09/16/2008, -0/+7theres one between the opening credits and the closing credits
  • garyi113, on 09/16/2008, -0/+9In Caddyshack- Noonan's putt sits on the edge for more than 10 seconds thus it counts as a two putt when it falls in.
  • erik22h, on 09/16/2008, -9/+36Lord of the Rings - First scene is a flash back to 3000 years earlier when the ring was lost after the bad guy had his finger cut off in battle.... Does anyone care to explain why they are still using the same weapons (swords and bows & arrows) 3000 years later when the story takes place??? I mean come-on, maybe middle earth deserves to be destroyed.
    • ReallyIgnorant, on 09/16/2008, -0/+15So would you prefer if gandalf was mowing down hordes of orcs with an m16? I know I wouldn't. The story would be over in a few minutes (not nine/ten hours). "***** it, Frodo, this is the One Ring, ah we'll just put it in the shuttle and lauch it into space..." etc etc
      • 1807, on 09/16/2008, -3/+14Dude that would have been bad ass! Maybe in said future movie Frodo and Sam would be out of the closet homosexuals instead of "good friends."
    • ldkronos, on 09/16/2008, -0/+58You apparently forget how exponential growth works when you look back through time. Just because we've gone from gun to bomb to nuclear bomb so quickly doesn't mean the progression from swords happened as quickly. In real life, we know they had swords back in 3300 BC. Yet, even into the Middle ages (4500 years later) the sword was still the primary weapon.
    • bjs3171, on 09/16/2008, -1/+4good question, but not exactly a plot hole.
    • goosegoosegoose, on 09/17/2008, -2/+1Try again
    • 5needles5, on 09/17/2008, -0/+3i think i saw document that stated that humans used flint as tool and weapon.
      and that it took (i realy cant remember right number but it was huge so i am going to say) 100 000 years for people to get idea and place that sharp rock on the end of stick and make spear.

      also indians in america didnt developed for thousands of years...
    • jakobmakob, on 09/17/2008, -0/+4Saruman created gunpowder. How is that not progress?
    • carpeclunes, on 09/17/2008, -1/+1Middle Earth's political and social environment is not very conducive to technological advancements. There are many factions and races, each of which is extremely independent, meaning they are not likely to share information. Bigotry is almost certainly found everywhere. The elves live forever, so they would more or less stick to the old ways and are less likely to adopt new technologies. Dwarfs just do there own thing underground. Seeing as they mine so much, they should have been the first to develop gun powder. I guess they are as stupid as they are short. Wizards don't need technology; they have magic.

      Humans would advance the quickest. They have short lives, they are not magically inclined, they are not dumb dwarfs. But the age of man only begins in the third book, so I expect technology really took off and grew exponentially after that point.
  • rmeddy, on 09/16/2008, -3/+39What About The Matrix?
    In the Animatrix had the machines get hit from Nuclear weapons and yet they survived and then the main weapon used against the machines is an EMP weapon?

    THE FIRST THING THAT COMES OUT OF A NUCLEAR EXPLOSION IS AN ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE!!!!1111ONEONEONE
    • smhTheory, on 09/16/2008, -2/+4Why bother creating an alternate reality when a coathanger up the nose keeps one just as docile. Labotomized humans still make as much body heat, right?
      • charlietuna, on 09/16/2008, -1/+2I'm going to try that out to confirm. I'll get back to you on that.
      • 1807, on 09/16/2008, -17/+2Dude Leave the Matrix alone, that movie is an Epic Fail as it is.
      • P1MPZombie, on 09/17/2008, -1/+31807 You suck.
    • Suricou, on 09/16/2008, -0/+19Not true.

      A nuclear weapon only produces an EMP if you detonate it at the right altitude. It's the interaction between the nuke and the ionosphere that makes the pulse. Blow it at or near the surface, all you get is a really big boom.
      • Jimgress, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2You know this, but all the humans in the world of the Pre-assimilated Animatrix universe missed this somehow?

        You can't possibly retcon a ***** plothole that big. Which is why the matrix (other than the first movie) sucked.
    • ryanonfire, on 09/17/2008, -0/+3Maybe some are shielded
  • tbredofsin, on 09/16/2008, -1/+17Sorry, I don't buy the Sixth Sense one as a plot hole, since we are told explicitly, fairly early on that the minds of ghosts function in a way that they *don't realize they are dead*. Yes, of course it's pure fantasy, but who are we to argue with the rules, so long as they don't contradict themselves?

    Also, most of the time when people "point out" a time travel plot hole, I want to shake them and say "IT'S A PARADOX, BITCH." It's pretty much impossible to have time travel ***** going on and not run into a few of them.
  • VigRoco, on 09/16/2008, -0/+8Speaking of time travel, the movie 'Primer' did a good job of showing it in a realistic light. Just go and try to find some plot holes in that movie.
    • fzammetti, on 09/16/2008, -0/+7Yeah, but that's just because watching Primer, even without actually thinking about it at all will literally... and I mean LITERALLY, as in huge mess to clean up afterwards, not just figurative words on a web page... CAUSE YOUR BRAIN TO EXPLODE VIOLENTLY (not sure there's a non-violent form of explosion actually, but Primer will make the blast more violent then most I suppose).

      I can count on one hand the number of movies that confused the ***** out of me in my lifetime... Primer counts as four of them.
    • dok333, on 09/16/2008, -1/+0Yeah, I love watching that movie with my friends for their first time and getting that "what the ***** just happened" look on their face
  • tikal2k, on 09/16/2008, -4/+51Hey Rick, it's your cousin! Your cousin, Marvin Astley! You know that mediocre generic sound you've been looking for? Well listen to this!
    • greendalek, on 09/16/2008, -13/+4Now THAT is the funniest thing I've read all week. (Granted, I work in academia, so that may not be saying much.)

      But hell, that was worthy of Cracked, Mad, and The Onion all rolled together. Thanks!