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Hollywood Republicans Produce Right-Wing Comedy With 'Carol'
popwatch.ew.com — "An American Carol" a new conservative movie tries to show Hollywood who's right. At first, there weren't many - Jon Voight, Kelsey Grammer, Dennis Hopper - but now...there still aren't many. "You sort of feel like you have to hide it," says director David Zucker. "When you meet, you give each other a secret look--'Are you a Republican too?"
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- michaelwong38, on 09/17/2008, -29/+17top cast list, this should be interesting. i was hoping to see Palin on the bigscreen after the Tina Fey SNL skit. man i love TinaF
- patpl22391, on 09/18/2008, -3/+9It still looks better than the disaster movie, epic movie, etc. Still not saying much :(
- kindpastor, on 09/18/2008, -6/+2lol, he got dug down, the dems have been hijacking digg, which explains the mccain orgy on the front page.
- dbldn, on 09/17/2008, -38/+157This doesn't look funny... at all.
- tpearl, on 09/18/2008, -4/+12of course it doesnt.
- Suricou, on 09/18/2008, -3/+23We'll have to wait to find out, but from the description of the jokes it sounds like the producer put politics before comedy. He decided who to attack first, and had the jokes written around them - and the jokes will suffer from this constrained situation.
In terms of political impact... think Team America. It's obvious that the designated political opponent is such a straw man, everyone who doesn't already agree with the movie political bias will immediatly dismiss it.- boot20, on 09/18/2008, -0/+10Dude, Team America is f'ing funny. AMERICA F*CK YA!
- Rikkochet, on 09/18/2008, -3/+17Like the article even said: "Most comedies put down both sides. We said f--- it, we're taking a side"
That's what I fondly call a propaganda film. And it'd be the same if they did an annoyingly liberal "comedy" showing conservatives eating babies.
[Edit: eating babies WITH THEIR BARE HANDS. Which is of course disgusting. :)] - bjornski, on 09/18/2008, -3/+3@Rikkochet
That's barbaric and disgusting!
You should at least use a knife and fork. - murrdpirate, on 09/19/2008, -0/+1Yeah, that was the joke.
- Stormwern, on 09/18/2008, -9/+38"When you meet, you give each other a secret look--'Are you a Republican too?' It's the new gay."
Republican is indeed the new gay, and the secret look is a secret foot tap in the mensroom..- niczar, on 09/18/2008, -14/+12Republican isn't the new gay, it's the new retarded.
You don't advertise it just like you don't boast having a negative IQ. - Nevarius, on 09/18/2008, -2/+6Niczar: Depends what kind of republican your talking about. I agree if your talking about these bible thumping bastard that wish to turn America into some theocracy. I agree if you talking about these profiteering idiots that are willing to burn down many in the name of greed. But these neo/zealots are not true republicans. They are pretty much acting in ways that are the polar opposite to traditional conservative values such as fiscal responsibility and smaller government. Hell they even twisted the meaning of traditional conservative/republican values to serve their agenda. .
- niczar, on 09/18/2008, -14/+12Republican isn't the new gay, it's the new retarded.
- doiveo, on 09/18/2008, -4/+8I agree, politics aside.
"Think Dickens' holiday classic, spun by Pat Buchanan and infused with the gleeful absurdism Zucker and his brother Jerry (a Democrat) used in '80s comedy touchstones like Airplane! and Naked Gun."
Dickens - not funny
Buchanan - buzz kill at the best of times.
Airplane and Naked Gun - WAY too played out genre. (see: http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/09/02/disaster-mov ... - rz8472, on 09/18/2008, -3/+17This will be hilarious... just like that Half Hour News Hour that was so successful on FOX News.
- thcobbs, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2Was that on fox news or fox tv? I never can remember.
- joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -5/+1or the Daly show!
- bluezinc, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4It was on Fox News. Oh, what a hindenburg-eque disaster. Everyone knew what was going to happen, and then it did.
- EatSleepJeep, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3They should have learned their lesson with that crap show. Now they'll look stupid on the big screen.
- handenry, on 09/18/2008, -6/+10i spent a few minutes trying to figure out why this isn't even the slightest bit funny, and i think i realized what happened here.
the secret to political humor is dragging things out to their logical conclusion, highlighting how silly the idea is. unfortunately for zucker & co, liberal platforms are well thought-out and nuanced. there is no inherent absurdity in their results.- MWeather, on 09/18/2008, -3/+10Good thing their target audience wouldn't understand nuance if it hit them upside the head.
- thcobbs, on 09/18/2008, -13/+4"liberal platforms are well thought-out and nuanced"
You make too much money, so we'll take 60% of it and give it to the person over here who's not making enough at their low-skill job.
Yep... well thought out and nuanced. - MWeather, on 09/18/2008, -1/+6An excellent example of this movie's target audience.
- bjornski, on 09/18/2008, -1/+1@MWeather
Well played, sir.
- bluezinc, on 09/18/2008, -4/+5It's well known that Republicans don't have a sense of humor.
Jesus hates to laugh.- Tomchei, on 09/18/2008, -8/+4It's the fundamental Republicans that don't have a sense of humor.
The uber leftist Democrat don't have a sense of humor either.
They both believe in censorship so if you make a joke about Jesus ***** sheep while eating beef jerky and spitting on homeless people, both sides want to shut you up.
That would be the rabid McCain supporters (if there is such a thing) and the rabid Obama suporters.
Realists like myself can see that Obama has this election and can still see that he's no different from the rest of Washington.
Unfortunately, Obama is walking into a disaster and will get blamed for not fixing it fast enough and that sucks because he's an idealist. - bluezinc, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7Ok, name me 1 funny Republican.
And Dennis Miller doesn't count, he stopped being funny pretty much as soon as he got his own show.
- Tomchei, on 09/18/2008, -8/+4It's the fundamental Republicans that don't have a sense of humor.
- Zarchon, on 09/18/2008, -9/+4Wow, Republicans and whacko left wing nuts really do think differently. I saw the previews for this last night and it looks hilarious. BTW Epic Movie and Disaster Movie WERE horrible. Team America was also very funny.
I have to disagree with Tomchei on Democrats not having a sense of humor, have you seen some of their candidates? lol- DarkShroud, on 09/18/2008, -0/+5Why would you even watch Epic Movie and Disaster Movie? It's because of people like you that pay to see these movies that they can still make them.
- nimbleprune, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1"Im John Kerry and I was in Vietnam" "And I injured myself with my own grenade"
- bluezinc, on 09/18/2008, -2/+3I like how the main joke of the movie is, "liberals hate America and all conservatives are real men".
Wow, that's comedy right there.
Oh wait, that's NOT the satire part? - nimbleprune, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3funny for people that dont hold high opinions of Moore
- ronaldst, on 09/18/2008, -2/+1What's funny is all these losers on Digg posting in disgust about this movie.
I guess the armchair political elite got offended... Again. LOL - shampoovta, on 09/19/2008, -2/+1Kool Aid shoots out Obamatrons noses if they laugh. This is why they lack a sense of humor.
- digits12, on 09/17/2008, -33/+95Destined to flop
- bixby1, on 09/17/2008, -15/+6I have nothing to add to that.
- bjkrautk, on 09/18/2008, -9/+11If the whole thing was only shot for $20 mil (which is the financing referenced in the article), there's a very good chance this picture will end up in the black. It's not starting a few hundred mil in the hole like your typical summer blockbuster.
(It's being backed and produced by conservatives....it's going to make money. ;)- UberNick, on 09/18/2008, -3/+7"It's being backed and produced by conservatives"
If you define "conservatives" by Bush supporters, wouldn't it be more accurate to say it's going to be an abysmal failure and end up screwing all those who actually did the work to lose all kinds of money, while creative accountants find a way to socialize the risk for the producers by shifting it to a tax loss? - bjornski, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3Yeah, movies backed by conservatives are ALWAYS winners....
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/336 ...
http://dir.salon.com/story/ent/feature/2005/08/17/ ...
- UberNick, on 09/18/2008, -3/+7"It's being backed and produced by conservatives"
- Zarchon, on 09/18/2008, -6/+2Micheal Moore made a profit with his lies and *****. His movies are even taken as truthful by some on the left. I totally expect this movie to make a profit.
- sigmaman2, on 09/18/2008, -3/+4Conservatives making a comedy are like anorexics making a cooking show.
Yeah, they have the ability to do it, but I don't see them having the aptitude. In the end, people will wind up making funnier jokes at their expense.- joe122370, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1sigaman, there's this new thing called the internets, you may want to check it out
- joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -3/+3all movies are backed by republicans. liberals are at home stealing or waiting for someone to give it to them for free
- sigmaman2, on 09/18/2008, -0/+1?????
How can you steal something when you are at home?
- sigmaman2, on 09/18/2008, -0/+1?????
- JohnboiWaltune, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3These conservatives are confused. They're not the ones who tell jokes, they're the ones other people tell jokes about.
- pennvneff, on 09/17/2008, -14/+96Dennis Hopper is a republican? I'm kind of shocked hearing that.
- niradg, on 09/18/2008, -14/+49cocaine is a helluva drug
- wedges, on 09/18/2008, -4/+31so he was in Easy Rider for nothing?
- doiveo, on 09/18/2008, -4/+10what about Rosie O'Donnell????
A conservative? That must be one tortured brain.- bicyclethief, on 09/18/2008, -2/+12No, just ppl who need work.
- zip000, on 09/18/2008, -0/+8It seemed to say "Rosie O'Connell" in the trailer...fwiw.
- uberchaoslord, on 09/18/2008, -17/+9"If you aren't a liberal when you're 20, you've got no heart. If you aren't a conservative when you're 30, you've got no brain" - Winston Churchill. Guess Hopper is 30+ :P
- doiveo, on 09/18/2008, -7/+26If you don't abandon labels by 40 you have no courage.
- MadKennyP, on 09/18/2008, -4/+21Liberal and Conservative meant vastly different things in Churchill's day than they do today.
- swrostmore, on 09/18/2008, -3/+13Churchill was a Conservative at 25 and switched to the Liberal party later in life. He obviously did not say the quote you've attributed to him.
- teessidedazza, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2If people read Roy Jenkins's biography of Churchill (many GOP politicians claimed to have done so after 9/11) he notes an incident in the House of Commons when a new Labour MP meets Churchill. (Jenkins mantions no names but I suspect the Labour member was himself.)
Churchill asked what party the young man was in -'Labour,'was the reply.
Churchill 'replied he was a liberal, and had always been so. THis was when he had been PM for the Conservatives. - bluezinc, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4Yes, conservative meaning less spending, more protectionist, and less gov't control.
Not thinking the government needs to tell women what to do with their uteruses or that gays being happy is worse than a never-ending war in a desert over oil. - Zarchon, on 09/18/2008, -3/+0@bluezinc, I am a Republican and I don't want to outlaw abortion. I think it should be done within the first 4 months though. I also don't think being gay is a big thing. I have a few friends who are gay. I don't care what you do in your bedroom or who or what you do it with. And I also don't believe the war in Iraq is about oil. I am not a Neocon. I have been a Republican every since I decided to follow politics.
- david4041, on 09/18/2008, -0/+1swrostmore left out the fact that Churchill rejoined the Conservatives in 1925.
- thatnerdyguy, on 09/18/2008, -3/+9If I remember correctly, a 60 Minutes interview with him a few years ago said something he was "Proudly libertarian". So I'm guessing he is "conservative" in the sense of "paleo-conservatism", no soul-sucking-big-government-blending-of-parties "neo-conservative".
- Branbot, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3Oh my God! Someone who actually knows something about politics commenting on Digg? Get outta here! We don't need your logical nonsense!
- uncleosbert, on 09/18/2008, -0/+1that's an awful lot of credit you're giving him. i mean, i know this is a freeper article, but he sounds more reactionary than rebel.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1510435/p ...
""I never was in the military," he says. "I was an age group that was between the Korean War and the Vietnam War, and then the draft came. I was under contract to Warner Bros., and there was no war going on, so I did everything to get out, so I got out.
"But my father was in the OSS. He was in China, Burma, India. Anyway, I just felt, when I read the thing, this seems like a reasonable way to pay my dues."
Turns out McNulty has paid his dues as well, as revealed in an upcoming episode called "The Forgotten," currently set to air Wednesday, Nov. 23. According to Hopper, it's a story about a Navy SEAL believed dead and left behind for years in the Philippines.
The situation causes McNulty to reveal his past as a Vietnam POW who lost his wife, who believed he was dead, to another man. "I'm taking this personally," Hopper says."
- GiJoeBob, on 09/18/2008, -4/+2It's called "acting".
- Andrwmorph, on 09/18/2008, -0/+13"When George Washington takes him to the World Trade Center, it made me cry," says Grammer. "A lot of people don't want to admit that a threat to this country exists. We're willing to admit it."
Kelsey Grammer is a generic republican!- bubba9999, on 09/19/2008, -2/+2I've heard him attempt to talk about political issues before - he's always been equally clueless.
- apextek, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2what a sell out, after all the commentary in Easy rider dvd about protesting the war, sit ins supporting the ACLU, hippie communes, and the basic premise of the movie about being free from the oppression of the government and the common mans fear of change.
What a fake.
- darkchild82, on 09/17/2008, -18/+70For those who haven't seen the trailer, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnHllNDcv4A
Warning: Not funny... at all- bicyclethief, on 09/18/2008, -5/+20The terrorist bits were kind of funny.
Christ. What do you expect from the director who brought you the Scary Movie franchise.- Taiyoryu, on 09/18/2008, -0/+4"It is getting harder and harder and harder to find suicide bombers. And all the really good ones are gone."
- Cenobite, on 09/18/2008, -2/+8As a disinterested (and probably unwelcome) non-American, I saw a few chuckle-worthy moments in the trailer, but unfortunately just as many cringe inducing ones. Beyond that, the cast is decidedly ace.
Overall it looks to be a very below-average comedy, but probably not a brain-meltingly terrible one. (i.e., Disaster Movie)- bjornski, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2And like all of these movies, all of the best lines are in the trailer.
Those will be the funniest moments in the movie. Save your money.
- bjornski, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2And like all of these movies, all of the best lines are in the trailer.
- lynx44, on 09/18/2008, -1/+20Movie looks horrible, but the part where they have the quote:
"The master of movie satire"
Is cited to be from David Zucker himself. Intentional or not that was pretty funny. - Andrwmorph, on 09/18/2008, -0/+8I love the generic "I love 'Merica" country music.
- bicyclethief, on 09/18/2008, -5/+20The terrorist bits were kind of funny.
- baseball247365, on 09/17/2008, -12/+74Hollywood Republicans? You're making stuff up now.
- pintomp3, on 09/18/2008, -7/+16kind of like college republicans.
- wrestlingnrj, on 09/18/2008, -3/+9Does that make me a myth then?
- kosmoX, on 09/18/2008, -3/+4I'm sure not a myth. Not only am I a CR, but I'm a Ron Paul supporter as well. Stereotypes FTL.
- apextek, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2your a libertarian, get over it
- datastorageguy, on 09/19/2008, -1/+4They are far more numerous than you think. College Republicans just don't protest, yell at people, hold sit ins, and make general asses of themselves in public.
- bjornski, on 09/19/2008, -1/+2Or enlist in the wars they push so hard for.
- pintomp3, on 09/18/2008, -7/+16kind of like college republicans.
- JeffBuzz, on 09/17/2008, -9/+30I thought Fred Thompson was the only republican in Hollywood. And he only does TV.
- a2fan, on 09/18/2008, -1/+22Hunt for Red October
Die Hard 2
In the Line of Fire
Cape Fear
Those are just the ones I can recall from memory. Probably more listed at imdb.com - plainOldFool, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4I'm pretty sure Clint Eastwood is also a Republican
- ender7074, on 09/18/2008, -0/+4So is Chuck Norris.
- plainOldFool, on 09/18/2008, -0/+5Except Chuck Norris hasn't done anything relevant since, well, forever. Eastwood, on the other hand, is an Academy Award winning Director.
- a2fan, on 09/20/2008, -0/+0No, Clint is a democrat last I checked.
- ifruit, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2You forgot Fred in Days of Thunder!!
- a2fan, on 09/18/2008, -1/+22Hunt for Red October
- swrostmore, on 09/17/2008, -15/+101I hope this does as well as "Half Hour News Hour!" That show was a slam-dunk.
- MisterWonderful, on 09/17/2008, -2/+12;)
- bicyclethief, on 09/18/2008, -2/+10The phrase "slam dunk" will never again mean what it use to mean before Tenet will it?
- bjornski, on 09/18/2008, -0/+5Neither will the Medal of Freedom.
- wreckosaurus, on 09/18/2008, -0/+1I dugg this comment because I assumed it was sarcasm, but looking at swrostmore's past comments I think he might actually be serious.
- swrostmore, on 09/19/2008, -1/+2Amazing powers of deduction - which of my past comments clued you in?
- mr.hostility, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3To think this guy did Airplane and Naked Gun. :(
- superhalt, on 09/17/2008, -13/+14sounds ridiculous.
- MikeF, on 09/17/2008, -19/+22i smell another disaster movie
- lovemorgul, on 09/17/2008, -22/+34I love David Zucker and his movies (Airplane! and the Naked Gun series) but this one looks lame
- ericrous, on 09/18/2008, -0/+4The only decent movie he's done since "The Naked Gun" was "Baseketball." And that was only decent because Matt Stone and Trey Parker basically ghost wrote most of it.
- pentupentropy, on 09/17/2008, -24/+7blech. john travolta and tom cruise are the only people whose hollywood opinion counts... I mean sure it counts for nothing, but hey... if they had brains they'd have real jobs.
- Terasiel, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2It does show they're lack of intelligence when they can work for one year and make more money than the average American does in a life-time.
- joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3more like 3 months
- Oracle95, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1You'd also be surprised at the number of top tier Hollywood actors who are high school dropouts. Sure they may be successful, but are they really educated enough that anyone with half a brain should be listening to their opinions?
- Terasiel, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2It does show they're lack of intelligence when they can work for one year and make more money than the average American does in a life-time.
- soniyashrma, on 09/17/2008, -33/+6"An American Carol" a new conservative movie tries to show Hollywood who's right.
- techiesouls, on 09/17/2008, -27/+16Hollywood republicans, now we see the height of lameness
- 1nflux, on 09/17/2008, -19/+32Dennis Hopper is conservative?!
My head just literally exploded.- coyote1284, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7AHHHHH! ZOMBIES ON DIGG!!!
- beloitpiper, on 09/18/2008, -2/+12Buried for improper use of "literally".
- TheNik, on 09/18/2008, -5/+7How do you know his head didn't really explode? Pfft, you think you know everything.
- humbled, on 09/18/2008, -8/+2From the internets:
—Usage note Since the early 20th century, literally has been widely used as an intensifier meaning “in effect, virtually,” a sense that contradicts the earlier meaning “actually, without exaggeration”: The senator was literally buried alive in the Iowa primaries. The parties were literally trading horses in an effort to reach a compromise. The use is often criticized; nevertheless, it appears in all but the most carefully edited writing. Although this use of literally irritates some, it probably neither distorts nor enhances the intended meaning of the sentences in which it occurs. The same might often be said of the use of literally in its earlier sense “actually”: The garrison was literally wiped out: no one survived. - david4041, on 09/19/2008, -0/+4
@humbled:
So if used incorrectly often enough it becomes correct? - bjornski, on 09/19/2008, -0/+1Repeat a lie often enough, and it becomes believed as truth.
- trolleyfan, on 09/17/2008, -4/+74Why do people think actors - of *any* political stripe - know anything more than, say, the box-boy at the local super market about politics?
If you're making your voting decisions based on what a celebrity says...well...then you shouldn't be voting. Period. You're too stupid.- XxtraLarGe, on 09/18/2008, -1/+10They don't know anything more than the box-boy, but they are more easily persuaded due to their desire to be liked, and they have a lot of money to throw at political issues.
- ajames01, on 09/18/2008, -8/+31And yet Matt Damon's comments hit the top stories in no time...
- bobbarkerbilly, on 09/18/2008, -13/+14Heaven forbid the content being spot on and the person saying it is famous, that would be just be too much.
/sarcasm
It's about the content and not about the person saying it. - catbeller, on 09/18/2008, -14/+6'cause he was right.
- thatnerdyguy, on 09/18/2008, -2/+9"Maaaatttt Daaaammmmoooonnnn!!!!" -- Team America
- bobbarkerbilly, on 09/18/2008, -13/+14Heaven forbid the content being spot on and the person saying it is famous, that would be just be too much.
- ebolaworld, on 09/18/2008, -5/+15I think we tend to forget these celebrities are also Americans with free-speech rights. They speak out simply because some people will listen. You can take it or leave it, but never demonize another citizens right to speech.
- CaLaVa, on 09/18/2008, -3/+6I agree. I'm not a Democrat because George Clooney or Matt Damon are Democrats. That would be stupid. I'm a Democrat because I lean left on most issues. But in a party that will fool people by using code words like "community organizer" to stoke the flames of racism or say that "fundamentals" mean American workers they have to worry that George Clooney will sway their flock.
- UberNick, on 09/18/2008, -6/+6Well that came out of left field. How are you equating ridicule of unfunny, intellectually-absent speech with criticism of the right to speak? You're like that guy, who after saying something totally indefensible and being asked "why do you say that", retorts with "it's free speech, I have my opinion and you have yours." Your comment means absolutely nothing.
- TheNWO, on 09/18/2008, -7/+5How exactly is "community organizer" a code word for racism? If it's a code word for anything it's code for "this guy has no relevant experience".
- Garjon, on 09/18/2008, -1/+5I agree with UberNick. Where did this come from? ebolaworld's not saying "Silence them." He's saying "They're actors, not experts. They can talk but you don't have to listen."
- DarkShroud, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2@CaLaVa, most community organizers are white. Anyone right or left that actually believe that "community organizer" is code word for black needs their head examined.
- sugarazor, on 09/18/2008, -1/+13By using that logic, nobody knows anymore about politics than the box boy. Just because someone is an actor, it doesn't mean they're clueless... they do have the ability to read a newspaper or check the internet too.
What amuses me is that the right-wing gets all over the "elite liberal Hollywood leftists," when REAL rich people are the ones who vote Republican. Sure, Leonardo DiCaprio is a rich Democrat, but the man who signs his check is likely a wealthy Republican.- thescimitar, on 09/18/2008, -3/+7As is Leo's accountant, lawyer, etc, etc. For every powerful Hollywood Democrat, there are ten powerful Hollywood Republicans... they just don't make movies about themselves.
- Suricou, on 09/18/2008, -6/+1To the right, the center looks left. To the left, the center looks right.
This means that the center is hated by both sides. It's not a comfortable place to be. - a2fan, on 09/18/2008, -2/+0You mean me, part of the movie-going public?
- catbeller, on 09/18/2008, -4/+12There is no "left" in the USA. There is the far, far, FAR right, and they define everyone else as leftist. That is our spectrum. If we had a "left", which we don't, communists would speak on the news yakker shows and we'd have actual debate on the economy rather than more idiot tax cuts. We ain't got a left, we just have various flavors of right.
- UberNick, on 09/18/2008, -2/+4Your notions of the Republican party seem about 30 years outdated. Starting with probably Regan, the Republicans have become the party of religious-hysteria, anti-intellectualism, and proud-to-be-poor low class southerns who don't even vote for their interests. In "What's the Matter with Kansas", the author does a pretty good contrast between "Mods" (rich repubs) and "Cons" (drunken Nascar hicks) and how many elites have long left the party in absolute horror.
- StGhurka, on 09/18/2008, -2/+2@UberNick: YOUR notions of the Republican party are exactly why a republican is in the White House. You assume they're all a bunch of ignorant, toothless rednecks and so that's who you campaign against every time an election rolls around.
Come early November, you think you've spit enough insults at them that they must surely all curl up and die. The problem is no matter how superior you may think you are, your opponents are as smart as you are and they don't resemble the guy-from-deliverance caricature you paint of them closely enough and it leaves the voting public thinking that YOU are the one who's out of touch. Your inability to admit this fact is the Democrats' biggest weakness.
Stop underestimating the opposition and you might stand a chance against him. If you don't, you'll be standing there with a comically surprised expression on your face the morning after election day - again - because you were campaigning against a cartoon character that wasn't even on the ballot.
"I can't believe I'm losing to this idiot" - John Kerry
As a Republican, I freely admit that seeing that expression is a guilty indulgence of mine. - david4041, on 09/18/2008, -2/+1@UberNickUberNick :
You're wrong. What you've described is liberals' caricature of Republicans. The liberals' caricatures aren't even consistent. On one hand, liberals believe Republicans are rich and greedy, but on the other hand, they believe them to be "anti-intellectualism" and "poor low class." Always wondered how these low class poor got to be so rich.
Your caricature of Republicans is no more valid than the caricature of liberals as welfare recipients, deviants and hippies. - sugarazor, on 09/19/2008, -2/+4david -
The rich and greedy Republicans prey on the anti-intellectualism of the poor lower class by pandering with God & Guns and that's how they manage to remain in power. Any poor person that votes Republican does so because they are ignorant to the actual issues. - david4041, on 09/25/2008, -0/+0@ StGhurka:
"As a Republican, I freely admit that seeing that expression is a guilty indulgence of mine."
You should watch the HBO special on the liberal radio network Air America. Nothing funnier than watching the Air America staff the morning after the November 2004 election. They just couldn't believe that Bush won.
- pintomp3, on 09/18/2008, -0/+12i don't think an actor is any smarter than the average person, but neither are the talking heads and pundits on cable news.
- TheNWO, on 09/18/2008, -7/+2A large number of the talking heads on cable news went to top Universities, and many of them worked in the upper levels of the political realm before becoming political pundits. The average person on the street doesn't really know anything.
- sugarazor, on 09/18/2008, -2/+6You think FOX News' assortment of ex-meteorologists and beauty pageant contestants have worked in the upper levels of the political realm or were just handed the script from the White House?
- TheNWO, on 09/18/2008, -5/+3Nice straw man, sugar. I was thinking of the big 3 in general, but since you've decided to focus exclusively on Fox would you like to go through their staff and regular contributors without cherry picking the random college dropout like Shepard Smith or Hannity (both of whom are far from being lightweights in their field, BTW)? Do you even watch Fox or do you get all of your information about Fox from the far-left blogs, Olbermann, and Comedy Central?
- sugarazor, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2Oh c'mon, lighten up... it was mostly jesting. But I'll give you Shepherd Smith, I'll even throw in Chris Wallace for good measure as they have some sliver of journalistic integrity. Hannity on the other hand, is just another right-wing talk radio blowhard, a Rush Limbaugh in training, except even more in line with the Neocons.
- Dalhectar, on 09/18/2008, -6/+19From Team America
Janeane Garofalo- "Our job as actors is to read the newspapers, and repeat what we've read on TV, like it is our own opinion."- catbeller, on 09/18/2008, -6/+8Sorry, I was getting my new talking points for Palin from Fox News just now. What was that again?
- seantubridy, on 09/18/2008, -3/+5But...but... Matt Damon said...oh.
- zip000, on 09/18/2008, -0/+4I'm much more likely to not watch an actor due to his/her political opinions than I am to change my political opinions to accord with an actor.
- zarvensha, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4Its not whether the actor or such knows more, its more that we agree with what they have said that is the value.
If I said what Matt Damon said, no TV station in the world will play it, no one would watch it on Youtube etc.
Now if he says it and I and others like me can agree and feel he has voiced our opinions for us.
That is the use of celebrity these days on one side of the coin, they can use their fame to get an opinion heard that we cant.
Of course the other side of the coin is having them espouse some of the dumbest ***** you have ever heard and we all are amazed that they have the power of speech still....... - digitalArtform, on 09/18/2008, -0/+1These are not actors words. They are screenwriters words.
- mrroarke, on 09/18/2008, -0/+1I don't know, why don't you ask Nancy Reagan?
- avataros, on 09/18/2008, -16/+33Didn't they learn their lesson with Fox' "Half-hour news hour"?
- malex, on 09/18/2008, -1/+11Yeah, but this is "Half Hour News Hour: THE MOVIE."
- Pillage, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2ugh that show was an abortion (a bit ironic?). But at least they did it right when they made it an hour and called it Red Eye...and put it at 3 am.
- damnedviper, on 09/18/2008, -24/+7He directed Scary Movie 3 as well and it was probably the best in the series.
- niradg, on 09/18/2008, -7/+43that's like saying, "this is the best dog ***** i've ever tasted."
- Terasiel, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2Hey, I'll digg you up at least. That's the third funniest movie I've ever seen. (Including Kung Pow and Spy Hard.)
- vikramdeo, on 09/18/2008, -11/+1Even this will like one of the Scary MOvies
- bjornski, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3No. It'll be much, much dumber.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 09/18/2008, -7/+6Those guys are republicans?? That's too bad, I was hoping there would be a conservative in hollywood somewhere other than Kurt Russel.
- btschul, on 09/18/2008, -1/+14Kurt Russel is a Libertarian, from what I understand.
- sugarazor, on 09/18/2008, -2/+12Snake Plisskin is a member of the Badassitarian Party.
- thefandango, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2Lucky Eddy for secretary of state!
- edrodgers731, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2I prefer Jack Burton.
- catbeller, on 09/18/2008, -6/+11A libertarian is a Republican who wants to legally smoke pot.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 09/19/2008, -1/+1hence I said conservative
- Stormwern, on 09/18/2008, -3/+6Schwartzenegger is very republican.
- joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3he's half liberal, not very republican
- david4041, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3You must not be from California.
I believe Bruce Willis is pretty conservative. - NonLeftistDiggr, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3very republican is meaningless, he's as liberal as a republican comes.
- btschul, on 09/18/2008, -1/+14Kurt Russel is a Libertarian, from what I understand.
- dezweber, on 09/18/2008, -28/+20I think this will be funny for the mere fact that it's roasting the hell out of propagandist exploitative Michael Moore. The man makes me just as ill as Bill O'Reilly or Rush Limbaugh. I'll definitely wait to see this on dvd or tv - wouldn't waste my precious theater time and money on it.
- k3rfuffl3, on 09/18/2008, -7/+6It's great to make fun of a fat bastard who exposes the flaws in "American" systems that screw over so many Americans. /sarcasm
Of course by "American" most Republicans mean White Christians who getting screwed over more and more these days thanks to their Republican voting record.- dezweber, on 09/18/2008, -3/+3I think you miss my point. That fat bastard exploited the victims of the Columbine shootings to better serve his purpose. It's deplorable. His tactics are cheap.
- else7en, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2elucidate because what your saying sounds like mainstream media talking points about bowling for columbine from half a decade ago
in fact it sounds like a complete reversal of events documented in that movie about the nra - dezweber, on 09/18/2008, -1/+1I only saw BfC some 2-3 months ago and missed the media hype you reference. I felt ill with the fact that he pressured these victims into a situation where they were clearly uncomfortable. While I agree that this country clearly has a gun control problem, I don't care for exploitative sideshow acts such as these. The means distract from the cause and, like Limbaugh and O'Reilly, it begins to look more like he's catering to his own ego, rather than finding a real solution to the very real problems that exist in this country. Playing on emotions, without regard to rational thought or respect for the opposition, is cheap.
- JDL917, on 09/18/2008, -6/+1But its not a roast of Micheal Moore. If its supposed to be, it looks like its failing. From the trailer, the Michael Malone character isn't Michael Moore-like at all. He just looks like "generic dumb fat guy" with a Micheal Moore costume on. Larry the Cable Guy was the first choose for the role. they aren't even trying to imitate Moore's personally or character.
- dezweber, on 09/18/2008, -2/+1I've only seen the trailer once, so I really wouldn't know. I realize that the film as a Republican agenda but I wouldn't mind sitting through it at Michael Moore's expense.
- k3rfuffl3, on 09/18/2008, -7/+6It's great to make fun of a fat bastard who exposes the flaws in "American" systems that screw over so many Americans. /sarcasm
- NumbersAndNoise, on 09/18/2008, -12/+33Saw the trailer for this before Burn After Reading. It looked heavy-handed, brain-dead, and completely unfunny.
- XxtraLarGe, on 09/18/2008, -4/+7Kinda like "Canadian Bacon."
- CaLaVa, on 09/18/2008, -5/+4Every flimmaker has had a flop. Zucker has never won an Oscar or Palme d'Or like Michael Moore.
- mchisari, on 09/18/2008, -0/+4You think just because people aren't Republicans that they're gonna defend "Canadian Bacon"?
Dude, that movie *blew*. I don't care what your politics are, nobody's gonna defend that movie.
- WiretapStudios, on 09/18/2008, -1/+6Yeah, it's one of those movies where they tried WAY too hard to make things funny, and ended up making it worse.
- ender7074, on 09/18/2008, -4/+3Sounds just like a Michael Moore movie.
- Lucas123, on 09/18/2008, -1/+1I've seen it. Unfortunately (my step mother is in it), it's not funny and only somewhat entertaining. Wait for the video release.
- XxtraLarGe, on 09/18/2008, -4/+7Kinda like "Canadian Bacon."
- ghrayfahx, on 09/18/2008, -8/+46I'm conservative myself, but I almost ***** myself laughing when they called being conservative "the new gay."
- nesagwa, on 09/18/2008, -12/+44Can we ban you guys from getting married too?
- mtjohnson, on 09/18/2008, -7/+11Comment of the century ^^
- willdiggforfood, on 09/18/2008, -12/+6If you had a hand strong enough to hold a gun steady (as opposed to wanking), maybe.
- ghrayfahx, on 09/18/2008, -2/+3Too late, I already tricked her into marrying me 6 years ago. I hate to tell you, but we just had a little conservative baby 3 months ago as well.
- bjornski, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2And ave you decided your child's religious beliefs too?
- pennvneff, on 09/19/2008, -1/+2I guess "new gay" means hanging out in airport bathrooms like Idaho Senator Larry Craig.
- nesagwa, on 09/18/2008, -12/+44Can we ban you guys from getting married too?
- OneLess, on 09/18/2008, -7/+33"Most political comedies say both sides are bad," says Zucker. "We're saying, F--- it. We're taking a side."
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What a rebel.- Suricou, on 09/18/2008, -2/+6Points for honesty.
- Cam_86, on 09/18/2008, -5/+12It takes balls to side with the rich, powerful, cheating guys... give them credit! Its like the supporters at GOP rallies, who cheered for deregulation as their homes were being repossessed...
Agree with me or not, but i respect that people as stupid as that, can still function(sort of) in society.- offrdbandit, on 09/18/2008, -4/+1Because being an idiot and signing a mortgage you cant afford is someone else's fault, right?
- chrissku, on 09/18/2008, -22/+35I'd rather watch Gigli
- Cenobite, on 09/18/2008, -1/+19That's just going too far, man. Too far.
- ethaberecht, on 09/18/2008, -1/+8I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that. I would've had to buy a new laptop.
I used to like asking Blockbuster employees if they had "Gigli: the Director's Cut". Their faces looked like they were going to implode. Now that the movie's mostly forgotten it's not as funny. - btschul, on 09/18/2008, -4/+2That's going overboard, mate!
/In Bruges - kawaiirobo, on 09/18/2008, -3/+3I highly doubt that.
- WiretapStudios, on 09/18/2008, -7/+15I saw this preview at the movies this weekend and nobody in the theater laughed once...not a good sign.
- Dalhectar, on 09/18/2008, -18/+18Too bad Team America did a better job of poking fun at liberals.
How can the same person who made Airplane make this drivel? How can a movie, with so much material to parody (just look at Team America for a great model on how to poke fun at Hollywood liberalism) fail so utterly?
It must be intentional.- omjeremy, on 09/18/2008, -5/+12Can you enlighten us on how Team America poked fun at liberals? It seemed to do just the opposite when I watched it.
edit: I forgot about the Film Actor's Guild. lol Yeah, Team America made fun of everybody.- Balanced, on 09/18/2008, -0/+15A lot of the 'stars' referenced in the Film Actor's Guild were intended to be parodies. Like MATT DAMON!
Team America made fun of everybody, really. - edrodgers731, on 09/18/2008, -3/+7Are you kidding?
It always cracks me up when people think Matt and Trey are libs!
Libertarians, maybe, but not libs! - Calinthalus, on 09/18/2008, -0/+5This is true. According to the Wiki article on "South Park Republicans":
"While South Park co-creator Matt Stone is a registered Republican,[citation needed] co-creator Trey Parker is actually a registered member of the Libertarian Party.[2] As the show's co-creator, Matt Stone, sums it up: "I hate conservatives, but I really ***** hate liberals."[3]" - uncleosbert, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2according to matt stone:
"Reason: So what is it that you hate about liberals? Can you boil it down to a consistent impulse, and then a consistent impulse among conservatives?
Parker: Wow, that’s a good question.
Stone: I’ve never thought about that."
http://www.reason.com/news/printer/116787.html
you guys should be careful traipsing along after celebrities. matt and trey know how to get a rise out of people and their views are more complicated than that soundbite lets on. - Calinthalus, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2Great article, thanks for the link.
- Balanced, on 09/18/2008, -0/+15A lot of the 'stars' referenced in the Film Actor's Guild were intended to be parodies. Like MATT DAMON!
- DarkBlueAnt, on 09/18/2008, -0/+9Team America poked fun at everyone, but more at the guys pushing for war...
- Dalhectar, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6rDeOojFXk
"We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks.
And the Film Actors Guild are pussies.
And Kim Jong Il is an *****.
Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get ***** by dicks.
But dicks also ***** assholes: assholes that just want to ***** on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can ***** an ***** is a dick, with some balls.
The problem with dicks is: they ***** too much or ***** when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of ***** that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us ***** this *****, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in *****!"
The movie editorializes that a world superpower needs to straddle a line between neoconservative military activism and Chamberlain-esque appeasement. Ultimately, the use of force is preferred over rogue states doing whatever they want, however yes, that use of force needs to correctly targeted and appropriate.
- Dalhectar, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6rDeOojFXk
- uncleosbert, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3can you expound upon this theory? how was team america poking fun at liberals?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI&feature ...- Balanced, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3It did have Michael Moore get blown up and made fun of.
- edrodgers731, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2Don't you remember the the teaser tagline?
(In credit style)
"
Michael Moore
Susan Sarandon
Alec Baldwin
Sean Penn
...(a few others)...
Are going to be really pissed off at this movie." - uncleosbert, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3"There was also the idea of making a movie being the world police, or that concept has been around for... or that phrase 'America being the world's police' has been around since I was a kid. I remember when I was a teenager hearing it, and it will be around after George Bush is out of office. That concept itself narrowed the film's scope down to the last three years."
"Even Michael Moore, I mean you saw Michael Moore for like two scenes, and maybe even 20 seconds of the film, but Newsweek wanted his picture and Rolling Stone wanted his picture, so Trey and I had to be very vocal - we had to cut Michael Moore; we had to say you can't use Michael Moore pictures anymore because every press wanted to use him. The movie's not about Michael Moore."
http://www.indielondon.co.uk/film/team_america_sto ...
matt and trey are real people, and their work is not as simplistic as you make it out to be. they weren't poking fun at liberals so much as celebrities who we all recognize as symbols.
- PleaseJustDie, on 09/18/2008, -1/+6The brilliance of Team America is that the conservatives saw it as poking fun at the liberals and the liberals saw it as poking fun at the conservatives.
- Dalhectar, on 09/18/2008, -2/+5It pokes on both... but it does a good job at poking on both.
I think the word I'm looking for is... funny
The trailer for this movie... it wasn't even remotely funny. - moghua, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3That could be a sign of brilliance... or it could be a sign of smugly cynical film making. Or both. They are great at the negative stuff (especially making fun of left/right pop culture stereotypes) but they never take a stand on anything. Their work amounts to little more than sitting back and smugly criticizing everyone else in the world. When was the last time you saw them parody anything that might be considered sacred to libertarians?
- uncleosbert, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2@moghua
nothing is sacred to libertarians... that's the whole point of south park. i didn't really care for the episodes about muslims and the danish cartoon because they oversimplified the facts, but their message was one i wholeheartedly agreed with: it's all ok or none of it's ok.
i'm not a libertarian, but i think they do have the best handle on speech rights.
- Dalhectar, on 09/18/2008, -2/+5It pokes on both... but it does a good job at poking on both.
- bubba9999, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2I always knew that that girl with the big titties that bounced gratuitously across the screen in Airplane really represented down-home American values.
- omjeremy, on 09/18/2008, -5/+12Can you enlighten us on how Team America poked fun at liberals? It seemed to do just the opposite when I watched it.
- ncc74656m, on 09/18/2008, -14/+7Yes, because we all know how prone to violence most Democrats are. I feel bad for Republicans in Hollywood. Seriously, so much shame, so much of that yearning to breath free(dom to other countries).
What's next? Will they compare themselves to Jews in Nazi Germany before Kristallnacht?- Suricou, on 09/18/2008, -3/+5No, that's the task of the religious right, not the political right. I've seen far-right media sources say American christians are being so persecuted, they will be rounded up into camps any day now. I've seen said sources say that on a few occasions.
Beware the WorldNutDaily, for they will hurt your mind.
- Suricou, on 09/18/2008, -3/+5No, that's the task of the religious right, not the political right. I've seen far-right media sources say American christians are being so persecuted, they will be rounded up into camps any day now. I've seen said sources say that on a few occasions.
- ebolaworld, on 09/18/2008, -12/+7Hollywood Republicans - The only Hollywood elitist the Right-Wing Media think should be heard.
- Suricou, on 09/18/2008, -3/+2Acting is the skill to decieve and manipulate emotions. Is it any surprise hollywood is so political?
- AceKicker, on 09/19/2008, -3/+1There's only one station that is "Right-Wing Media", and all the diggers hate it more than they hate their antichrist (a.k.a. Bush). The rest of the media is Demo...
- ebolaworld, on 09/19/2008, -1/+2There are no other news stations that are Liberal in the same way that Fox News is Conservative. Diggers are disgusted with Fox News because they continue to lie about what they really are. They continue using phrases like "Fair and Balanced" and "Real Journalism". I would have absolutely no problem with the network if they were honest.
- tsf5000, on 09/18/2008, -21/+34Since conservatives have no sense of humor, how can this movie do well?
- joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -6/+6not true, still laughing at libs choice of Obama
- tsf5000, on 09/18/2008, -4/+7Then you must be in stitches about McCain's VP choice of Palin.
- AceKicker, on 09/19/2008, -2/+3The director is conservative, he directed Airplane!...
Kelsey Grammer (also conservative) played Fraiser in Cheers, classic character which branched off into his own show that was the #1 comedy on television...
So I am assuming you are just talking out your ass
Or should I stereotype democrats by your ignorant statement and say, "all demo's talk out their ass"? Nah... I don't want to look as sheepish as you.- tsf5000, on 09/19/2008, -2/+3As I said...
- AceKicker, on 09/19/2008, -6/+1@tsf5000
Nice retort...
Your witty response is almost as impressive as your vast knowledge of humor. The major populace could only strive to match your cunning sense of "what is funny". If only us simple minded folks would listen to you, we might some day experience this "laughter" only you can obtain.
OR... you're an ***** who, ironically, talks out his ass - tsf5000, on 09/19/2008, -2/+3I'm still waiting to see the sense of humor that conservatives supposedly have. You aren't really doing anything to help your point. Just insults and anger, the typical conservative responses to most situations.
- joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -6/+6not true, still laughing at libs choice of Obama
- connieLingus, on 09/18/2008, -13/+15if anyone could use a little parodying its micheal moore...he has no problem going over the top in some of his documentaries, of course always at the expense of the right.
let's see if he can take as good as he gives.- malex, on 09/18/2008, -4/+7That's all well and good, but proper satire requires more than cheap slapstick and name calling. Right-wing political humor doesn't seem well suited for that.
Granted, my only exposure has been "Half Hour News Hour" and Larry the Cable Guy, both of which are only slightly more entertaining than eating glass.- connieLingus, on 09/18/2008, -2/+1well i guess the right is really good at radio talk shows, and the left is really good at 1/2 news/tv comedy shows.
- catbeller, on 09/18/2008, -3/+4What "expense" has the right ever paid?
- gn0stik, on 09/18/2008, -2/+2I'll probably watch it just for the MM parodies.
- uncleosbert, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3he seems to be pretty comfortable with other people's opinions:
"Just to say my name in that crowd, I mean, to do that to those people, it was unnecessary and a little cruel ... "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz2LSUfUauw
he knows republicans hate him and he's ok with it. at 5:54 they show him being booed at the 2004 rnc.
over the course of the interview, he answers questions from the public and responds to the preview of "an american carol" saying that he hopes it's funny.
conservatives are really odd the way they champion freedom and then can't tolerate some scruffy fat dude making films criticizing them when they're actually the party running the country. you guys are just lucky he isn't a hot hockey mom. - hackin101, on 09/21/2008, -0/+0republicains have alway been out of wats hip and wats in!but they r making a comeback they dont repersent the die-hard liberal in colledge getting it paid by his rich parents ,which makes up obamas youth vote, they kids they arnt underprivlaged or suffering there doing fine and the people who repersent republicains r the hard working blue collar men and woman,like palin, who arnt rich but are working 2 provide 4 there parents soo many of them cant be successful actors, but many of them work hard and become weathy which doesnt degrade them as americans, soo they cant be repersented! well looks like a good movie!
- malex, on 09/18/2008, -4/+7That's all well and good, but proper satire requires more than cheap slapstick and name calling. Right-wing political humor doesn't seem well suited for that.
- zacattac50, on 09/18/2008, -12/+8bad on so many levels
- Kyzzyxx, on 09/18/2008, -15/+4Now I know who's movies to boycott. Thank you
- mxmj, on 09/18/2008, -2/+6You would really boycott a movie because an actor was republican? Its not like they are killing puppies or in the KKK.
- Kyzzyxx, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2First, my bad on the incorrect grammar.
Damn ***** right I would. I do NOT like being forced to be an accessory to mass-murder through having to pay taxes for an illegal and immoral war. And that is exactly what we all are. Accessories to murder, plain and simple. So yes, right now I will NOT support the financial endeavors of ANY person that supports the party that has made us accessories to murder. The fact that you don't see this is a shining example of the apathy in this country. It is disgusting. But go ahead, I would never stop your greed of "I don't care what they do as long as I get my trivial pleasantries"-attitude. - mxmj, on 09/19/2008, -1/+1The fact that I don't give a ***** about the political leanings of actors means I'm an accessory to murder? That's quite a stretch. Also, take a chill pill you are making us look bad.
- Kyzzyxx, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2First, my bad on the incorrect grammar.
- coyote1284, on 09/18/2008, -1/+7I don't know "who is" movies to boycott. (heil)
Burn your copies of the Airplane and Naked Gun movies, NOW! Never enjoy them ever again. - joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -1/+1yep, matt damon, george clooney, babwa streisand.......
- mxmj, on 09/18/2008, -2/+6You would really boycott a movie because an actor was republican? Its not like they are killing puppies or in the KKK.
- waxcrash, on 09/18/2008, -12/+25Kevin Farley please go away. Your brother was funny, but you are not.
- DasTroll, on 09/18/2008, -9/+25This proves that Kelsey Grammar is a good actor. He was obviously a liberal on Frasier, yet he's obviously a conservative IRL. Kudos to him, no matter how much I disagree with him.
- Pillage, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7indeed, some actors don't get the whole "acting" thing when they start..caring about things.
- uncleosbert, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4actually, i think you could make a good case that frasier was conservative.
his father was a cop, he drives a bmw, he went to a private university, he gets in fights at hockey games, there was an entire episode where he freaked out over a *****-erotic dream he had...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frasier_Crane
there is only one episode where he expresses any view of politics: he criticizes a conservative as being "hitler without the whimsy".
so, though the show tried to make him the picture of a limp-wristed elitist... he seems to have been playing himself. and he really is a conservative.
seriously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Ca3YJVtHs
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001288/bio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelsey_Grammer
- socketman, on 09/18/2008, -19/+18Probably going to be stupid, but I am going to go see it to support them.
It is just wrong how conservative actors get blacklisted and shunned in Hollywood.- insertcleverid, on 09/18/2008, -5/+11Who in this movie is blacklisted?
- Iatethecrayon, on 09/18/2008, -8/+12That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day, socketman...
- smithoos, on 09/18/2008, -10/+5Huh? "...conservative actors get blacklisted..." You've got your decades and your blacklist inside out. It was the 50s and 60s and the left were blackliisted. Go to school, socketman.
- socketman, on 09/18/2008, -6/+2Hey it isn't like I did a disposition on the subject, but I have read many little things here and there that make mention of conservative actors getting black listed, and like this article says - being a conservative (or republican) in Hollywood is the "new gay".
That's what I'm saying is all.
I think it is sad that they have to be secretive about their political leanings or risk losing out on gigs.- socketman, on 09/18/2008, -1/+1By the way I meant dissertation...
- else7en, on 09/18/2008, -3/+3eventually your parents are going to win that defective condom lawsuit
- joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -3/+3because holywood is 99% liberal the known conservatives get less work, thus they are blacklisted.
- ReJeKt, on 09/18/2008, -7/+6A comedy with 9/11 references? It worked so well when Owe Boll did it.
- gaqua, on 09/18/2008, -10/+37"Voight plays the spirit of George Washington, Grammer stars as George Patton's ghost, and Hopper portrays a conservative judge who picks off zombie ACLU lawyers with a shotgun. In the Scrooge role is Kevin Farley (younger brother of late comedian Chris) as a slobby documen tarian-named Michael Malone, for those who need to be hit over the head--who bah-humbugs the Fourth of July. Until, that is, Washington takes him to the World Trade Center after 9/11 and converts him into a patriot."
Can anybody actually read that and think this movie sounds funny?
That sounds like just about the worst thing I've ever heard.- kawaiirobo, on 09/18/2008, -3/+20I didn't think it sounded funny till the ACLU zombie part. Everything is better with zombies, no exceptions.
- MysticSavage, on 09/18/2008, -0/+8It still sounds better than "Juno".
- masonreloaded, on 09/18/2008, -0/+5What synopsis of a comedy film DOES sound funny? Comedies are about the jokes, not the plot...
It probably won't be funny anyway, but just saying...- gaqua, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2I think a lot of movies have a more promising synopsis than this, though.
"Three parapsychology professors get fired and go into business for themselves as ghost hunters." sounds better. - else7en, on 09/18/2008, -0/+1oh a wise guy eh?
- fugazied, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4"Converts him to a patriot". Ridiculous, they attack Michael Moore who's questioning of authority is absolutely patriotic. Conservatives always attack freedom of expression despite it being the basis of liberty. They should embrace the freedom of a journalist who questions power (even if they disagree with him). Yet they would prefer to call someone questioning power "un-american", "not a patriot".
Even if you disagree with someone you have to accept their freedom of expression, neo-cons refuse to do that and head towards fascism every time they attack journalists with such broad and ridiculous propagandist attacks. They want their freedom to carry Uzis but don't give a ***** about the rest of them. - kawaiirobo, on 09/20/2008, -0/+1I don't necessarily disagree with everything Michael Moore says, but take some time to look into how he makes his documentaries, because they are completely bogus. As an American, I appreciate how he is at least expressing his freedom of speech, but as a film maker I'm disgusted at his documentary style and integrity. If you've ever seen the documentary Roger and me and remember his microphone being cut off at the GM shareholders meeting, that was fake, filmed in a theater in post, in fact he was at the meeting shown, and had all of his questions answered, you can look up the transcripts yourself of oyu don't believe me. This country needs a good dose of dissent, but it needs to be truthful dissent not Moores lies.
- gaqua, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2I think a lot of movies have a more promising synopsis than this, though.
- fishpillow, on 09/18/2008, -14/+20Oh *****! What the hell have the Republicans conserved? I consider myself conservative. More so with every passing year. But I changed my political affiliation from Independent to Democrat in 2004 just to vote for Dean. The attempt to take down Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky thing, our response to 911, "Shock and Awe"...It's all been ***** ridiculous.
- gn0stik, on 09/18/2008, -2/+3What does this have to do with the movie? Or Hollywood Republicans?
- fishpillow, on 09/18/2008, -2/+1Well, I guess it was the word "Republicans" after the word "Hollywood".
- fishpillow, on 09/18/2008, -2/+1Well, I guess it was the word "Republicans" after the word "Hollywood".
- gn0stik, on 09/18/2008, -2/+3What does this have to do with the movie? Or Hollywood Republicans?
- LemonHerb, on 09/18/2008, -10/+10Wow.. If you ever needed proof that Conservatives have poor decision making skills this is it. I can't imagine the group of people who sat down to a meeting and decided they were going to make this movie and that it was going to be successful.
- rushjaycarr, on 09/18/2008, -4/+3its not necessarily about success. They know this movie is going to be torn apart and shot down by a lot of people. It's about making a stand for what they believe is right. Even if you don't agree with their opinions, you can still respect the courage needed to stand up for an opinion when the weight of public opinion is against you.
- offrdbandit, on 09/18/2008, -3/+2If there was ever proof Liberals are mindless nutjobs insistent upon the idea that their viewpoint is and always will be superior to any alternative, it would be your post.
Everything you said, every connection you made, every point and implication you tried to convey, is retarded. "[P]oor decision making skills", eh? Perhaps you should work on your logical and/or rhetorical skills, because your post makes you look like yet another liberal dumbass. - david4041, on 09/19/2008, -3/+2I bet it losses less money than all those left-leaning, anti-Bush movies that have come out in the last few years.
- DarkBlueAnt, on 09/18/2008, -13/+6Wow. Republicans know how to make movies? COMEDY MOVIES?!?
Republicans trying to be creative... this is a first in my lifetime. I wonder how it will turn out. - uncleosbert, on 09/18/2008, -6/+11in case you forgot, zucker brought us naked gun 2 1/2.
and high school high, baseketball, scary movie 3, scary movie 4... and h.u.d., which is apparently a tv movie about crime fighters at the department of housing and urban development.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0233838/
the man needs an intervention.- mxmj, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2Your mom's going out with ... SQUEAK!
- bjornski, on 09/19/2008, -0/+1Have to admit I loved "High School High"
But Jon Lovitz rocks.
- koreaski, on 09/18/2008, -6/+19haha. Zucker was a Demoncrat, but 9-11 changed everything for him and by the time the next election rolled around he was out shooting anti-John Kerry ads.
thanks prick. and thanks for giving Frasier a fresh opportunity to wow us on the big screen.- juicycutlets, on 09/18/2008, -2/+1yeah. i was also waiting for another slapstick style movie like Airplane, but we get this??
- thirdeyeopen666, on 09/18/2008, -0/+6Hopefully he'll be as outstanding as he was in Down Periscope!
- bjornski, on 09/19/2008, -0/+1LOL! I forgot about that one....
- godzilla8nj, on 09/18/2008, -12/+16The funniest part of the preview...
The voiceover says "From David Zucker, the master of movie satire..." then the quote pops up on screen:
"The Master of Movie Satire" -David Zucker.
Fail for self-proclaimed. Oh, and tack on Epic for not a laugh in the entire preview.- mlvassallo, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7It would be part of the joke...
- godzilla8nj, on 09/18/2008, -7/+4There was a joke in that steaming pile?
- kawaiirobo, on 09/18/2008, -1/+7you do realize that the shameless self promotion is satire in its self right?
- godzilla8nj, on 09/18/2008, -3/+1Yes, and I find it as knee-slappingly funny as your average pun too. Were all the writers of this movie recruited from "The Half Hour News Hour"?
- kawaiirobo, on 09/18/2008, -1/+1Do you really feel that creative referencing a crappy movie that about a dozen people before you already have? Now that's what i find funny, insulting creativity by yourself plagiarizing previous comments.
- godzilla8nj, on 09/18/2008, -2/+1Not at all. I do feel creative telling you that since you seem to think "The Half Hour News Hour" was a movie you must be blessed with an IQ low enough that you'll find the broad humor of "An American Carol" funny. Congratulations.
- kawaiirobo, on 09/19/2008, -2/+1I've never seen the half hour news hour or whatever to be honest, but how does it make me stupid if I just haven't seen it or payed attention to ***** made by fox. That dosn't make me stupid it just means I have better things to do with my time, I was merely mentioning that fact that you are in no way being original. Why do you feel the need to be insulting to someone you've never met? I think I can answer that for you, because you a looser that has nothing better to do than act like a big man on the internet. Honestly I pity you.
- kawaiirobo, on 09/19/2008, -2/+1and before a grammar nazi jumps down my throat, I know I forgot to put a "?" after fox, my bad simple mistake.
- mlvassallo, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7It would be part of the joke...
- MrFurious2k, on 09/18/2008, -5/+22I prefer it when actors just shut up. I don't want to know what you think. Now show me your boobs. That goes for you too Kelsey Grammer.
- nixniente, on 09/18/2008, -2/+3I'm not sure I really agree with you, but I had to digg your comment because your last sentence was just too funny.
- Oracle95, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1You want to see Kelsey Grammer's boobs?
- jschragel, on 09/18/2008, -10/+18I find it funny how if you listen to any of the Right-Wing loonies (Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, etc) they all rail about Dems getting money from Hollywood... Oh yeah, it is much worse to get money from Matt Damon and Ben Affleck who want to lobby Dems for charities they support than to get money from tobacco lobbyist who lobbies Republicans to get money for Tobacco... And it is much worse to get money from Sean Penn who got to New Orleans to help people before the government, then to get money from Oil Lobbyists that create situations that lead us to war... So much worse to get money from Oprah who has done more charity work than any other celebrity, then from Pharmaceutical companies that take my entire doctor's office out to lunch every day, but cannot make medicine that my mom desperately needs for under 100 dollars a pill... I think you get my point!
- joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -6/+4libs give considerably less to charity than conservatives. That whole rant was lame at best.
Biden gave an average of $300 a year to charity over the last 10 years. McCain gives $125,000 per year! 25% of his income! That doesn't even include the millions his wife gives- jschragel, on 09/18/2008, -3/+3125,000 per year is not 25 % of his income... Him and Cindy make 10's of millions of dollars a year from Beer and stakes in Oil Companies... They just hide Cindy's income - Gee, i wonder why??? Because it would dwarf their 9 mansions for how out-of-touch they are!
- joe122370, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1it is 25% of his income of $425,000 a year. They file separate tax returns and if you bothered to read the above...Cindy give more to charity every year than Obama even earned
- joe122370, on 09/18/2008, -6/+4libs give considerably less to charity than conservatives. That whole rant was lame at best.
- studcopter, on 09/18/2008, -3/+10I have no problem with conservatives making a movie that makes fun of liberals (especially Michael Moore)--they're entitled to their own opinion, blah blah blah. But really, this is the best they could come up with? A political Jason Friedberg movie?
- Lugal317, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3You make it sound like all conservatives are in this together... Ya, we have private meetings and THIS is what we came up with. All behold the masterpiece!!!
Why don't you just say George Bush made it... he HAD to have a hand in it right? I mean.... it was made by teh conservatives.- offrdbandit, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2Dude, you missed the meeting?
Didn't you get the memo?
- offrdbandit, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2Dude, you missed the meeting?
- Lugal317, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3You make it sound like all conservatives are in this together... Ya, we have private meetings and THIS is what we came up with. All behold the masterpiece!!!
- alphaterminus, on 09/18/2008, -15/+13Neocons don't need this, they have 24
- lulzitsadigg, on 09/18/2008, -1/+424 is a reality show for them
- Speed, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3To be fair, Keifer Sutherland is a member of the NDP in Canada (the socialist party).
- airwalke, on 09/18/2008, -7/+11Knowing that David Zucker is conservative is like knowing that your parents have sex. You know it's true, but it's not one of those things you want to think about.
- bubba9999, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2Has Zucker actually done anything worthwhile lately? Shouldn't he be making Hot Shots part XIV by now?
- Makemeasword, on 09/18/2008, -12/+35Complete with bad country music, false patriotism and even Bill O'Reily. This film couldn't get any worse.
- nathanbrisk, on 09/18/2008, -7/+2I disagree completely . . .
except for the country music part. Blech. - Dalhectar, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3Oh ye of little faith.
I think that's just the tip of the iceberg.
- nathanbrisk, on 09/18/2008, -7/+2I disagree completely . . .
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