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48% of teenagers bought zero (0) CDs in 2007
latimes.com — Nearly half of all teenagers bought no compact discs in 2007, accelerating the music industry's painful transition from CDs to digital downloads, according to a report released today.
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- orlando37, on 02/27/2008, -8/+203I am no longer a teenager but if it helps I have not bought a CD since I was one
- KevinRWright, on 02/27/2008, -21/+21What cd did you buy when you were one? Bruce Springsteen Born in the U.S.A.?
I kid, I kid.- KevinRWright, on 02/27/2008, -6/+8You see, it was a play on words.
So, every cloud...- bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -9/+4Sorry, maybe i am stupid, but i am not seeing any puns in your last comment.
- KevinRWright, on 02/27/2008, -2/+17One as in 1 year old, not one as in teenager. Bruce Springsteen "Born In The USA" was the first cd ever mass produced.
Nevermind, yes you are stupid. - bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -7/+1Its not a pun if the only way to read it is the literal one in which you said it....
- ryansmith18, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4...that wasn't the only way to read it. That's what makes it a pun. Read it a couple times. It's meant to be simple enough that it need not be explained.
- KevinRWright, on 02/27/2008, -2/+17One as in 1 year old, not one as in teenager. Bruce Springsteen "Born In The USA" was the first cd ever mass produced.
- DisposableRob, on 02/27/2008, -1/+7I thought it was funny, Kevin.
- Linkin4, on 02/27/2008, -0/+8I thought you were just calling him old.
- KevinRWright, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1He's only 5 years older then I... :(
- bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -9/+4Sorry, maybe i am stupid, but i am not seeing any puns in your last comment.
- KevinRWright, on 02/27/2008, -6/+8You see, it was a play on words.
- liljay2k, on 02/27/2008, -15/+3orlando37 is no longer a teenager but if it helps he has not bought a CD since he was one (1)
- bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -3/+16Maybe there is a cd called Zero (or a band) and they are really popular, so 48% of teens bought their cd's in 2007.
- paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Smashing Pumpins - Zero
- bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -3/+16Maybe there is a cd called Zero (or a band) and they are really popular, so 48% of teens bought their cd's in 2007.
- LeeSoong, on 02/27/2008, -3/+10if by CD you mean iTunes Gift Cards - I must have given out a half dozen of them at Christmas.
- dafragsta, on 02/27/2008, -0/+30The bad thing about this development is not the piracy, but the accepted quality of music these days. Both in content, production value, and sadly, quality. I recently went on a road trip with my mom and my sister and neither one of them could tell that, aside from the fact that I hate Fergie, why I kept harping on about bitrates. It made no sense to them. So I had to listen to 128kbit Fergie in all it's overproduced glory, watery and shimmery sounding treble, complete lack of dynamic range, and they thought I was just being an insufferable *****.
I'm not a dyed in the wool audiophile, in the paranoid to the point of buying Monster cables or other such nonsense... sense, but you have to really not give a ***** about recording fidelity to be happy with 128kbit. In 20 years, music will be canned and watered down to it's most demographically tested, condensed, compressed, and mix-matched ***** status-quo self in such a way that might not ever reverse the tastelessness.- muffinking, on 02/27/2008, -1/+11You have to realize something about this music: these people are listening on crappy equipment. iPod headphones sound almost exactly the same no matter how good a bitrate you play stuff at. If you look at the numbers, there's maybe 6 teenagers with those nice $400 headphones that really give you the satisfaction of a beautiful 256kbit song. The best record companies have to shoot for is 128kbit, because that's about as good as you can get on the $10 headphones or the horrific OEM Dell speakers teenagers use.
- dafragsta, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2I listen to my iPod with a set of Sennheiser HD280 pro cans and with the 320kbps standard strive to maintain in my collection, it sounds really good with no EQ. I don't think everyone uses the default earbuds. They are notoriously terrible sounding.
- belly917, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Sennheiser HD280 Pro: those are great headphones. I have a pair and recommend them to everyone.
Sennheiser cx300: great earbuds. Also recommended despite the "stiff" cord that tends to transmit some vibration noises.
- belly917, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Sennheiser HD280 Pro: those are great headphones. I have a pair and recommend them to everyone.
- troye, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Well you know, by age 65 people lose 40% of their natural hearing ability, but it all depends on what they have been doing througout life up 'till then with their own ears.
Teens and 20-27 year olds can hear more frequencies (and thus more sounds and detail) than people who are older than them. They can listen to crap music and perceive it as good, perception is EVERYTHING if your a human being.
Bit rate is somewhat important, but in the end, perception is king.- RobotBuddha, on 02/29/2008, -0/+1it's always amusing when older people talk about how much more refined and acute their tastes have become. When the reality is that they've just lost so much of whatever sense is being discussed that it's become an apples and oranges situation.
- dafragsta, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2I listen to my iPod with a set of Sennheiser HD280 pro cans and with the 320kbps standard strive to maintain in my collection, it sounds really good with no EQ. I don't think everyone uses the default earbuds. They are notoriously terrible sounding.
- Ajajadude, on 02/27/2008, -0/+6I hate it when my music sounds terrible and has a terrible quality, but I've never noticed in 128kbit. Unless your sister downloaded the song off of Limewire or something where the songs sound like they've been converted from one format to another and then to another, I don't see how it could sound like crap.
- dafragsta, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Do a double blind between 128kbps and 320kbps and get back to me. It should be pretty easy to tell the difference. Pay attention to the difference in volume (or complete lack thereof) throughout the song and the artifacts that show up most often in loud trebley parts like cymbol crashes. Mp3 uses an actual audio compressor in the sense that it squashes the dynamic range down to a very limited headroom, at low bitrates. It also over emphasizes the bass parts and underemphasizes the better parts of the midrange.
- imdwalrus, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3How about a double blind between 160kbps, 320kbps, and uncompressed?
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/do_higher_mp3_bit ...
The bottom line: "With the possible exception of the USB Key that survived a washing and drying cycle, no other Maximum PC Challenge has ever surprised us as much as this one. It’s downright humiliating, in fact, that in many cases, we were unable to tell the difference between an uncompressed track and one encoded at 160Kb/s, the bit rate most of us considered the absolute minimum acceptable for even portable players." - dafragsta, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1imdwalrus: I read the article, and I'd still gladly take the challenge. I noticed that there was at least one song in each instance that they all nailed. Maybe some knew what to look for, but in the first two cases, the hipster and the pluralist knew their songs dead-on. Listening to OK Computer for the first time in 320kbps after listening to it in 160kbps was a nearly brand-new experience. I admit that at 160kbps and above, you can't hear the watery flange, but you can definitely notice the audio compression, not in the data sense, but in the dynamic range compression (removing the difference between loud and soft sounds) as well as the over emphasis on bass. Songs that are the same volume all the way through don't suffer this nearly as much. Songs with whisper quiet and screaming loud parts will sound very flat. I did think it was funny that the audiophile did worse than the other three, which just shows he likes bragging about being an audiophile.
- imdwalrus, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3How about a double blind between 160kbps, 320kbps, and uncompressed?
- dafragsta, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Do a double blind between 128kbps and 320kbps and get back to me. It should be pretty easy to tell the difference. Pay attention to the difference in volume (or complete lack thereof) throughout the song and the artifacts that show up most often in loud trebley parts like cymbol crashes. Mp3 uses an actual audio compressor in the sense that it squashes the dynamic range down to a very limited headroom, at low bitrates. It also over emphasizes the bass parts and underemphasizes the better parts of the midrange.
- elegantjihad, on 02/27/2008, -3/+2I try to get all my friends who rip CDs to rip them in FLAC and then encode them in LAME (v2 or V0). Slowly, I shall make them see the light, I swear. (probably not, but at least now they know how to rip stuff in different bitrates.) It takes 2 extra itty bitty steps and the sound quality is perfect and it doesn't take up the entire hard drive.
- raid517, on 02/27/2008, -5/+2You were arguing with women about music quality? You already lost. Most women I've met are just as happy listening to a $5 radio as they are o a $10,000 stereo.
I've never understood why. - rolf, on 02/27/2008, -1/+13To raid517:
Maybe because they saved $9,995?- Jashobeam5, on 02/27/2008, -1/+5Well said.
- raid517, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1You're a dick pal. I have had more top of the line stereo equipment than you have had hot meals. But that's not the point. I said most women are just as happy, that might not mean they think they sound the same. How many serious female audiophiles do you know?
- TheNewFlesh, on 02/27/2008, -1/+7Why would you train your friends to rip to FLAC first??? That's pretty wrong.
Rip to FLAC if you care about audio quality. Ripping to FLAC is NEAR identical to the CD version, so you might as well just go straight to LAME right off the CD if you want an MP3 copy. You're only wasting time.
Unless you wanna sit there and actually try to tell me "No, I can hear the FLAC in it, it sounds so good!"- paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -2/+0Theres some pretty good Flac at the beginning of Metallica's One
you can barely make it out though.
oh, maybe i'm thinking about a different kind of flac - belly917, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Ripping to flac is not "WRONG"
ripping to flac has many advantages. For me it is useful because:
1. I have a HTPC which is connected to my home stereo. Flac allows me to have CD quality sound. There's absolutely no compression artifacts that would be apparent "at least to me" in mp3/aac/ogg vorbis formats.
2. I have many portable devices. Some require aac, other perform the best with ogg vorbis, and some of my family members have mp3 only devices. Flac allow me to encode on the fly to formats supported by individual players, from an lossless source. No need to transcode a lossy format to another lossy format, or to transcode in the same lossy format to a smaller bitrate to fit more songs on a portable player.
By your post, I'm assuming that you can't hear the difference between CD & MP3. I can. I never encode in MP3 (even though lame is an awesome encoder) because at similar bitrates, ogg vorbis and aac sound much better and have less noticeable artifacts.
apparently flac isn't for you.
- paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -2/+0Theres some pretty good Flac at the beginning of Metallica's One
- raid517, on 02/27/2008, -5/+2You were arguing with women about music quality? You already lost. Most women I've met are just as happy listening to a $5 radio as they are o a $10,000 stereo.
- ozanweb, on 02/27/2008, -4/+4Seeing a painting by monet online (or any other painter) doesn't really stop the fact that I like the painting or enjoy looking at it. Yes, I would like to see it in person, I think it may be a different experience, but the fundementals of what I like are still clear in the lower fidelity version. The same with music. I don't freak out about listening to the radio, and I don't crap my pants and go in a come listening to .flac files. Exaggerating the importance of relatively minuscule differences (as your ear can only notice so much) seems ridiculous.
So yes, I agree better quality is better. But you would be an insufferable ***** if you make it a bigger deal than it should be.
Dammit, if I broke your Bose, are you going to be afraid to turn on the radio? If your so damn tasteful, take it to the extreme, only go to live shows. Because you love music right, and apparently listening to music in 128kbit means you don't give a damn about music.- belly917, on 02/27/2008, -2/+7dugg down simply because of the bose reference. Bose is *****. No serious audiophile would be caught dead with bose equipment.
- bitterbug, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4Agreed. Just for the hell of it I took my ipod into a best buy and tested a few songs on every dockable setup in the place. The 400 dollar Bose system was outperformed by everything on the shelves including several sub-100 dollar items. The only place I've ever seen positive comments about Bose were in their own advertising which, I would imagine, is probably effective.
- dafragsta, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3I think you are just lumping any complaint about audio fidelity with any uber audiophile you ever met and are taking that out on me. As I clearly stated, I'm content with 320kbps VBR and you can chuck the original disc for all I care. I listen to my music on a $400 set of Logitech Z680s from 4 years ago and a set of $100 Sennheiser HD280 Pros that I've been toting around with hockey tape on them for the past 5 years. I put common sense ahead of the emporer's new clothes.
I also record my own music, so I take the pragmatic approach over the one marketed at lawyers who like to think they are sophisticated audiophiles with their $2000 tube preamps that feed into $10000 matched speakers with mahogany cabinets designed by artisan carpenters. If you insist that a persistant "flange" sound that is undeniably present in MP3s 160kbps and below, or if there is a complete lack of dynamic range (volume differentiation for softer and louder parts) then you've never really listened critically. It doesn't take an audiophile to notice these things and it's like insisting that a YouTube version of a movie is acceptable AFTER seeing the HD equivalent.
As the other user posted, Bose sucks.
- belly917, on 02/27/2008, -2/+7dugg down simply because of the bose reference. Bose is *****. No serious audiophile would be caught dead with bose equipment.
- muffinking, on 02/27/2008, -1/+11You have to realize something about this music: these people are listening on crappy equipment. iPod headphones sound almost exactly the same no matter how good a bitrate you play stuff at. If you look at the numbers, there's maybe 6 teenagers with those nice $400 headphones that really give you the satisfaction of a beautiful 256kbit song. The best record companies have to shoot for is 128kbit, because that's about as good as you can get on the $10 headphones or the horrific OEM Dell speakers teenagers use.
- EXreaction, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3I think the last CD I bought was when I was in middle school.
- niceyuk, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7The last CD I bought was when the RIAA started shutting down Napster and suing their customers.
***** the RIAA.
- niceyuk, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7The last CD I bought was when the RIAA started shutting down Napster and suing their customers.
- atgmac, on 02/27/2008, -2/+33Buying a CD:
Go down to local shopping center (mall). For me it costs money just to get there.
Choose music. The only way to tell is by the cover art since there are no previews.
Purchase. Maybe wait in a queue. CDs are much more expensive than their digital counter parts if you only want one track.
Buying (or pirating) online:
Open your favourite program (iTunes, Limewire, etc)
Choose music. You get a 30 second preview on iTunes to help you choose. Whatever your means, you'll get nice search field, more choice and you don't have to wait for the store to order the CD in if you are buying uncommon music.
Download. Takes a minute or two depending on your net connection. Either very cheap or free.
And they wonder why people don't buy CDs anymore.- honeymustardn, on 02/27/2008, -6/+6They don't wonder why.
- obliviousfool, on 02/27/2008, -0/+10Here's the deal (for me, at least.) I don't actually want a CD. I've lived long enough to have had my entire CD collection stolen twice and picked apart by an endless stream of ex's and "friends." Now I have boxes of CDs I don't touch with shiny jewel cases I couldn't care less about.
I just want the music!
All of the music I listen to is on my computer, my player, and the cheapest possible CDRs which won't bother me in the least if they are stolen or scratched.
I love the iTunes store! I buy music online all the time. I just don't want any more stupid CDs! - nicko68, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Or you can do a combination of the 2 and buy CDs online, which is what I do.
I like the freedom of being able to rip my own mp3s at whatever quality I want (192 kbps).
- robbob, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7660% of teenagers don't have a job, 70% of retailers don't carry the music they like, and 98% of the music today is blows
- thebaconmonster, on 02/27/2008, -0/+570% of retailers is a little low for most of us..
I stopped buying cd's mostly when my teenage years ended, and it was more-so due to the fact that the music I liked and was willing to pay for normally isn't available in stores near me. It's much easier to get it digitally. - Ajajadude, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I stopped buying CDs because I decided to start buying movies and I was getting tired of music in general. Oh, sure, I still buy music from the bands I grew up listening to (and then some), but I tend to buy them off their website (and, coincidentally, the few remaining bands I remain loyal to aren't signed with an RIAA label...not by design, just turned out that way).
- nicko68, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I got into the movie buying thing, but now I regret it. How many movies do I really watch again and again? Not that many, I could probably cull my collection down to about a dozen or so.
- paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -4/+1concerning "60% of teenagers don't have a job"
tell me why 75% of companies market toward the 15-25 market then?
if a 15 year old can't afford your cd/movie/video game, why market to them? market to the ones with money.
but wait, Teens do have money, most of the teens i know have a part time job, some of them stuill get allowance with their job, few of them have bills beyond a cell phone.
Teens are cash cows, they'll drop $90 on ***** jeans for christ sake. You can't tell me they don't have money- opmike, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Are you not aware of these creatures known as parents? Companies market to the the youth who then get their parents to buy stuff for them. They also market other stuff to the parents and other adults. By doing this, they have taken care of most of the age ranges without having to ONLY target people with their own personal income.
- TheNewFlesh, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2This guy nailed it. I hope you're taking notes, RIAA
- thebaconmonster, on 02/27/2008, -0/+570% of retailers is a little low for most of us..
- SuperMoses, on 02/27/2008, -1/+28Newsflash!! 48% bought zero (0) outdated audio formats! What's next ... 100% teenagers bought zero (0) cassette tapes.
- paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0hey, I sold a set of my old tapes to the neighbors kid the other week, his "new" car only had a tape deck so he was looking for some old classic rock for it.
your stat should be, 99.9% - mdcarso, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3I have just "rediscovered" the simple beauty of vinyl -- but I'm not a teenager, so my purchases don't factor in.
- potterboy, on 02/28/2008, -0/+2I am a teenager, and have more vinyl albums then cd's
- paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0hey, I sold a set of my old tapes to the neighbors kid the other week, his "new" car only had a tape deck so he was looking for some old classic rock for it.
- trunkster, on 02/27/2008, -1/+5I must be an audiophile because I can clearly tell the difference between 128 kbps AAC/MP3 from a CD. That's why I usually buy CDs and rip my own files in higher quality.
- belly917, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Agreed. Why pay 9/10 the price for a song (if you could theoretically buy 1 track cd's) for a file that has 1/10th the fidelity of what you would get on a CD.* (all numbers are estimations for making a point)
Sell me lossless files online at a price comparable to CD's $0.99-$1.29, and I'll never buy a CD again. (flac would be perfered) - blackjack75, on 02/27/2008, -3/+4AAC 128kbps is very different from MP3 128kbps...
- belly917, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Agreed. Why pay 9/10 the price for a song (if you could theoretically buy 1 track cd's) for a file that has 1/10th the fidelity of what you would get on a CD.* (all numbers are estimations for making a point)
- protogenxl, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4I bought several CD in 2007 from cdjapan
(I just cant resist a new Tokyo Ska Paradise Orchestra release)- toxicshok, on 02/27/2008, -2/+2weeaboo!!!
- Jaliyl, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2I'm 18 and I don't think I've ever spent my own money on any kind of music.
- blackjack75, on 02/27/2008, -2/+6If I spent most of my money on booze I wouldn't brag about it online.
- Chebsi, on 02/27/2008, -3/+420 years of living, and I've never bought a music CD. I don't think I've ever paid for music at all, actually.
- GeorgeClayton, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1I'm 25 and have never bought a music CD for myself. Of course, I never really liked music that much; I have to listen to 100 songs to find 2 that I sort of like; then won't care to listen to the same song again for another year.
Anyway, this article does not account for people who PURCHASE MUSIC ONLINE or their parents buy music for them. - Jashobeam5, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I buy CDs, but usually only used ones from ebay (70s and 80s CDs). When I was a teen I bought a few tapes, but few if any CDs. I was probably 18 or so before I bought a CD. We have under 100 now I would say.
- KevinRWright, on 02/27/2008, -21/+21What cd did you buy when you were one? Bruce Springsteen Born in the U.S.A.?
- allaboutdatiki, on 02/27/2008, -11/+38My kid bought a CD this weekend from a band that he found online. Go figure! (He must be in the 52% ...)
- Lukesed, on 02/27/2008, -3/+55I'm a teenager who has bought real CDs, but only because they were from independant bands who aren't in itunes and deserve to be paid.
- bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -0/+29Every band deserves to be paid, there just need to be a new system so that they actually get some of the money from record sales.
- MCCULLAH, on 02/28/2008, -2/+2i beg to differ
ever heard any gangsta rap?
- MCCULLAH, on 02/28/2008, -2/+2i beg to differ
- kashk5, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Last CD I bought was about two years ago when a startup band was playing at my school. I bought the CD directly from them, so at least I knew the artists were going to get all of it and not some scumbag middleman
- bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -0/+29Every band deserves to be paid, there just need to be a new system so that they actually get some of the money from record sales.
- r337ard, on 02/27/2008, -1/+216I bought 50 CDs this year, and 150 or so DVDs.
Course there was nothing on them at the time...- kfm7, on 02/27/2008, -2/+4i was thinking DAMNNNN! Until i read the second line and remembered, i had too
- paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1thats small time, I buy CDs in stacks of 100, and I usually get one every 2 months or so.
I buy DVDs the same way, and more often.- r337ard, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1Hard drive space is so cheap now there isn't much need for hundreds of CDs.
- sjbdallas, on 02/28/2008, -0/+4CompUSA has them real cheap right now.
- bdbr, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4Many of the people whom the RIAA have sued mentioned that they had bought CDs, too.
- sjbdallas, on 02/27/2008, -2/+3My 16 year old has never bought a CD but he has an iPOD full of music. I'm fairly sure he's never bought a song from Apple's store either.
My 13 year old however, bought a few CDs last year but at a used cd store. He also created an itunes account of his own and bought maybe 15 songs.
I buy a few CDs a month. Nothing the 16yo listens too because he likes rap (yuck), but my 13 yo likes some of the CDs I buy. - fkr3, on 02/27/2008, -1/+10"He must be in the 52%"
Wow... what're the odds of that???- BoneheadFarker, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0I'd say almost 50/50.
- yohnstoppable, on 02/27/2008, -0/+5roughly 52%
- Ph34rb0t, on 02/27/2008, -0/+5I admit I laughed at this. Not that anyone cares at all. I think I am becoming akin to a blogger and want to paste my drivel online for the world to admire/scoff.
ugh. I need a shower.
- Klarth, on 02/27/2008, -1/+7I'm 17 and I own 200+ CDs. Almost all of them are on somewhat obscure European labels, and ordered online. They also happen to be good music.
I'm probably in an infinitesimally tiny subset of the 52%, but I'm happy to contribute to artists who don't get nearly as much revenue as they deserve.- sjbdallas, on 03/02/2008, -0/+1death metal? that's all i can imagine being obscure and european.
- Klarth, on 03/02/2008, -0/+1More like black and prog.
- sjbdallas, on 03/02/2008, -0/+1death metal? that's all i can imagine being obscure and european.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 02/27/2008, -7/+3I bought Linkin Park's new album Minutes to Midnight.
- renegadeafk, on 02/27/2008, -2/+6Why?
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 02/28/2008, -1/+1I like their music.
- sjbdallas, on 03/02/2008, -0/+1me too.
- renegadeafk, on 02/27/2008, -2/+6Why?
- Lukesed, on 02/27/2008, -3/+55I'm a teenager who has bought real CDs, but only because they were from independant bands who aren't in itunes and deserve to be paid.
- mcduckov, on 02/27/2008, -7/+159RIAA, we will BURY you!
- rnwen2750, on 02/27/2008, -3/+12Or, maybe, the kids are buying singles on line?
- bphicke, on 02/27/2008, -1/+16Or, maybe, there are allot of people out there that don't support the RIAA?
- RpgActioN, on 02/27/2008, -2/+8Kill the Five!
- rojano17, on 02/27/2008, -2/+2Is it a straight one or the maze kind? because i have serious issues with the latter.
- kajoob, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2I think he was simply making a Khrushchev reference.
- Flayum, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2They're about as effective at protecting copyright as Kennedy was at foreign policy, too
- bphicke, on 02/27/2008, -1/+16Or, maybe, there are allot of people out there that don't support the RIAA?
- gullydwarf, on 02/27/2008, -2/+5They can't sue all of us.
- MacEnvy, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4I think they'd be willing to try.
- rnwen2750, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4Yeah, they probably would take that as a challenge.
- MacEnvy, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4I think they'd be willing to try.
- chrismusaf, on 02/28/2008, -1/+2MPAA, you're next.
Prediction for this year:
48% of teenagers bought zero (0) DVDs in 2008 - arplayer2k, on 02/28/2008, -1/+1Suck it bitches. I hope next year it reads... What is the RIAA..... really, other than a bunch of gerbal craving assholes?
- rnwen2750, on 02/27/2008, -3/+12Or, maybe, the kids are buying singles on line?
- OBDriftwood, on 02/27/2008, -10/+73You know what this means? The return of vinyl! Putting it on wax, old school!
- joebaloney, on 02/27/2008, -1/+7I just got a RecordBurner for my laptop. Sticks a ways out of the PCMCIA port though.
- warriorscot, on 02/27/2008, -2/+7I would buy vinyl before I would buy a CD.
- ePuck, on 02/27/2008, -0/+352% bought CDs? Holy crap that's a TON just think about it...
Move the record back and forth letting it scratch! Only under hiphop supervision please. - murlox, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Hah! Most teenager won't bother buying LPs, which require frequent maintenance. Unless they have special interest in old school Hi-Fi stuff, I totally doubt it.
- theminority5, on 02/27/2008, -4/+0vinyl>CDs any day of the week. most teenagers have never even seen a vinyl haha.
- paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1on the constrary
most big name DJs use nothing but Vinyl, its very popular in the club scene at the higher class clubs and most teens know its better quality too.
but when your choices are "double click on file" or "spend 20 minutes finding record, setup record player, find track, hope theres no scratches", the choice is about speed, a music file is faster.
that, and i'd like to see a record player in a car... - RobotBuddha, on 02/29/2008, -0/+1Has a shortage of teenage, hipster, posers, gone into effect or something? Most teens love things that require almost no work to get into, but which they can use as a tool to feel superior to others.
- paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1on the constrary
- 3leggedHorse, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1 That is some expensive ***** thou.
- SenorCardgage74, on 02/27/2008, -2/+1The majority of new music that I buy these days is on vinyl.
You pay a little bit extra but its a much richer experience. - Cine, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Hahaha, that's actually kind of true! ;)
I'm 17. I bought 0 CD's this year. I bought 2 vinyls.
They are primarily for decoration purposes, though. My favorite albums look great when hanging in 30x30cm on my wall. - mGARANDEUR1, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1I've listened to plenty of vinyls and I really do not think they sound better. The sound is warmer only because of all the noise from the analog audio. As far as compression goes, I rip cds at full size (190mbps or so?). The reasoning that analog sound is better than digital sound because of the digital compression is not a valid argument to make. That's the equivalent of saying that film cameras will always be clearer than digital because the film reacts at a molecular scale, vs. much larger pixels on a digital camera. There are other factors that have to be taken into account. Analog sound gets warped and degrades over time also.
- Four20, on 02/27/2008, -2/+59I did read recently that iTunes is the #2 music retailer(including brick & mortar). Digital distribution won't work for HD(yet) but it will do very well for mp3 for years to come.
- floridiot2, on 02/27/2008, -10/+1itunes is not mp3
/douchebag- Light11, on 02/27/2008, -1/+5mp3 is more of a general term now-a-days
- jonshipman, on 02/27/2008, -2/+1no, I think MP3 means files with .mp3 after the name...
- Light11, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3the word 'mp3' to most of the world now means "a music file on a computer". or just a digital music file.
think about it. - paradigmx, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1just like Walkman means "Ancient Piece of ***** that ate tape"
- Light11, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3the word 'mp3' to most of the world now means "a music file on a computer". or just a digital music file.
- pooptaster, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0No, jonshipman, simply putting an extension at the end of a file doesn't make it a file of that type.
If I name a text file txt.mp3 does that make it an mp3? No, it makes it a text file called txt.mp3.
- jonshipman, on 02/27/2008, -2/+1no, I think MP3 means files with .mp3 after the name...
- Light11, on 02/27/2008, -1/+5mp3 is more of a general term now-a-days
- LeeSoong, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1iTunes has (some) HD movies - none I want to see,
the real money for iTunes is to re-release old time favorites digitally enhanced.
I won't be purchasing Gilligan's Island any time soon, but Dragnet and F-Troop would be cool.
- floridiot2, on 02/27/2008, -10/+1itunes is not mp3
- Hellman109, on 02/27/2008, -33/+6As a teenager in the 90's I bought about 2CDs and downloaded maybe 2 MP3's...
What percentage of teenagers regularly listen to recorded music? (that is, not radio or such).
And not including the US' second biggest music retailler (iTunes) kind of defeats the whole purpose- rnwen2750, on 02/27/2008, -4/+22I live with about 500 teenagers and I can tell you that most people that age listen to recorded music regularly.
- quinlan, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1keep it in your pants
- BN2L, on 02/27/2008, -1/+8Thats just you dude the music i listen to ain't even on the radio
- Whippets, on 02/27/2008, -4/+1Your retarded.
- zunkus, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1I was a teenager in the 90s, I also lived in the midwest so we didn't have the awesome radio coming out of seattle, I had to buy tons of cd's, other than partying the only thing I spent money on from 6-12th grade was music.
- rnwen2750, on 02/27/2008, -4/+22I live with about 500 teenagers and I can tell you that most people that age listen to recorded music regularly.
- FameMoney, on 02/27/2008, -5/+151The 52% don't know that they can get music from internet ...wait until they'll find out.
- Mootabolife, on 02/27/2008, -0/+5I'm pretty sure those are the people the RIAA has sued into submission.
- Scatropolis, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I sure do, but with sites like lala.com for cd swapping and the fact that CDs go on sale keeps me buying. I also just prefer to have the physical media, DRM-free, and can rip it at any time.
- TheHogester, on 02/27/2008, -6/+28That's because cd's are ancient technology now! Sell us something new!
- deaftly, on 02/27/2008, -5/+5HD-DVD?
- LuckyASN, on 02/27/2008, -1/+13Blu-P3?
- kris33, on 02/27/2008, -5/+2Ancient technology too
- j3one, on 02/27/2008, -1/+10Too soon?
- Richggs, on 02/27/2008, -1/+8
- TheHogester, on 02/27/2008, -0/+9Anything on a disc seems ancient! We need a new shape!
- MacEnvy, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7I'd buy a Compact Trapezoid.
- TheHogester, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Compact is ancient too, it has to be a Nano Trapezoid.
- saisumimen, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1Nano is ancient too, (2004) we need Pico or even Femto Trapezoid.
- Ph34rb0t, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1We need to change the compact to make it more 'New'. How about Electronically Formatted Trapezoid. EFT...
- MacEnvy, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7I'd buy a Compact Trapezoid.
- TheHogester, on 02/27/2008, -0/+9Anything on a disc seems ancient! We need a new shape!
- deaftly, on 02/27/2008, -5/+5HD-DVD?
- Sheshymaroii, on 02/27/2008, -11/+69I am a teenager.
I bought 1 CD IN 2007.
BUT!!!! This is because I was forced to as I had a friggin gift card I had to use up.
....
BTW - I had the downloaded version before I bought the CD- myrddin97, on 02/27/2008, -4/+38Why are you buying the same thing twice? You could have used that gift card and got something new and ripped it to the format of your choice and never use the disk again.
- LovelyNeko, on 02/27/2008, -0/+32He payed the artist for the downloaded version.
- Matt2k, on 02/27/2008, -3/+9No, whoever bought the gift card did
- Light11, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4no, they paid the music store. he routed some of that money to the artist
- Matt2k, on 02/27/2008, -3/+9No, whoever bought the gift card did
- Ajajadude, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7I've done the same thing where I've downloaded songs from an artist, really liked their stuff, then went ahead and bought the CD to support them (despite the fact that I had all the songs already).
- myrddin97, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I was assuming he had already bought the album in the download format. I've done the same thing as you with albums/artists I wasn't sure if they'd be worth $10-$15.
- bphicke, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4If you want to support the artist, go to a concert, get some friends to go with you, and maybe buy a poster or t-shirt while you are there. The artist doesn't get ***** if you buy a cd. The only person you are supporting is the RIAA.
- LovelyNeko, on 02/27/2008, -0/+32He payed the artist for the downloaded version.
- OnlyGirlOnDigg, on 02/27/2008, -3/+46then you wasted a gift card...
- bphicke, on 02/27/2008, -3/+18You should have bought some tic-tacs and taken the change in cash.
- novemberdream07, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7they've gotten hip to that. most stores have a max amount that wthey will give you in cash from a gift card.
- reaper527, on 02/27/2008, -0/+17that max amount back tends to be $0, as most stores now give credit card style gift certificates that maintain a balance until its all used up.
- jftitan, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3To which when you use up $48 bucks of that $50 gift card, the company pockets the 2 bucks you will never use. What companies have learned is credit card type Gift Cards make them money... FREE money. Many gift cards I've ran across have a 1 year limit before the card goes void. I had a $25 gift card from Old Navy, it barely covered the cost of a pair of t shirts I bought, leaving me with about a buck fifty on the card. WTF can I buy with $1.50 locked into a business location that doesn't have ***** under $10.
- andrewthrice, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Yes, Lowes makes millions off these types of gift cards. The amount not redeemed is called "breakage," IIRC.
- forceflow2, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2@jftitan
Certain states have passed laws that make it illegal for gift card balances to expire. And nothing is stopping you from using your supposed $1.50 towards something that's more than it. It's not like you have to spend the EXACT amount on the gift card in order to use all of it.
- reaper527, on 02/27/2008, -0/+17that max amount back tends to be $0, as most stores now give credit card style gift certificates that maintain a balance until its all used up.
- novemberdream07, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7they've gotten hip to that. most stores have a max amount that wthey will give you in cash from a gift card.
- Roninsama, on 02/27/2008, -3/+12Why the hell did you do that? I rather spent a $25 gift card on 4 pack of Red Bull then some piece of ***** from the RIAA.
- ozanweb, on 02/27/2008, -1/+7I bought one CD also. The Radiohead CD.
- leerayIG88, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4bought 1 cd? I find that hard to believe.
- Jakerius, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2I sell my music store gift cards to relatives for equivalent value so I can buy something I want. Gift cards are the most thoughtless gifts.
- Culiada, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1As a pirate since high school (late 90's), I am sad to say, I too bought a CD. Thousand apologies mateys, but I love Bjork too much. :p
- jetfuel, on 02/28/2008, -0/+2I bought Icky Thump
- myrddin97, on 02/27/2008, -4/+38Why are you buying the same thing twice? You could have used that gift card and got something new and ripped it to the format of your choice and never use the disk again.
- EarthernJar, on 02/27/2008, -1/+185Thanks for putting the numeric value of zero in parens... I was completely befuddled as to what "zero" meant.
- vertinox, on 02/27/2008, -0/+31It was a negative zero.
- serif69, on 02/27/2008, -0/+19Divided by i
- Exbzurg, on 02/27/2008, -1/+9o shi-
- vertexoflife, on 02/27/2008, -1/+8And we wonder why we don't have girlfriends. -sigh.- =P
- serif69, on 02/27/2008, -0/+19Divided by i
- blackjack75, on 02/27/2008, -2/+12Until it was clarified I thought you had to use WWII japanese planes to get music.
- vertinox, on 02/27/2008, -0/+31It was a negative zero.
- Dumbledorito, on 02/27/2008, -7/+19I'm not a teenager, but aside from the odd "They Might Be Giants" CD, there hasn't been any music I particularly wanted.
- BrendanSheehan, on 02/27/2008, -3/+1So you don't like music? You're missing out.
Side note: What is up with iTunes have a ***** selection for soundtracks? I had to buy 5 Amazon CD's recently to get the tunes I wanted.- wiggles, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I'm in the same position as the GP. I haven't bought any music in years, and I find myself listening to music in general less and less. I listen to talk radio now, and have for the past five years or so. I'm 32.
p.s. Get off my lawn. - Dumbledorito, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2It's not that I don't like music, far from it. It's just that the music I'm exposed to either doesn't appeal to me (a lot of pop is just so bland with lyrics that sound like a "precious moments" motivational poster) or isn't "as good" as the stuff I already own.
I'm sure this is also due to the fact that it's hard to find exposure to new, non-mainstream (if I can use that term) music. Commercial radio plays the "safe" stuff and that's also the kind of song you hear in ads or embedded into TV shows. We used to have an amazing radio show on our local NPR station that played everything from bluegrass to punk to stuff I can't even describe (that's where I discovered "Katy Watch the Stars" by Air), but it seems to have fallen off the airwaves.- capran, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Podcasts, dude. AccidentHash.com.
- saisumimen, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1I agree with OP. The only reason I bought a CD last year was because it came with a behind the scenes/documentary/music video DVD.
- wiggles, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I'm in the same position as the GP. I haven't bought any music in years, and I find myself listening to music in general less and less. I listen to talk radio now, and have for the past five years or so. I'm 32.
- BrendanSheehan, on 02/27/2008, -3/+1So you don't like music? You're missing out.
- Hoogs, on 02/27/2008, -16/+5I bought one...the Halo 3 Soundtrack. The music's so good I just felt too guilty downloading it for free.
- Snuff99, on 02/27/2008, -0/+10nERD!
- Hoogs, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3I know.
- NeonFire, on 02/28/2008, -1/+1Your mom's a nerd.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. It seems like every other response on Digg says that :P
- Snuff99, on 02/27/2008, -0/+10nERD!
- beefchi, on 02/27/2008, -18/+4ever since oink and demonoid went down, i've bought a lot more cd's than i used to.
- ronnsprocket, on 02/27/2008, -3/+14*****.
or sarcasm.- beefchi, on 02/27/2008, -3/+5upset there kiddo? i'm not going around buying every cd i want, i still download music. i just buy more than i used to, as i said before.
- kris33, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4What(.cd) about Waffles.fm?
- ronnsprocket, on 02/27/2008, -3/+14*****.
- Lokishot, on 02/27/2008, -2/+115How about they make the prices of CD reasonable for a teenager.
- nekochan, on 02/27/2008, -20/+7the secret is to not listen to pop music.
3-disk european import techno compilation for $8 at a big-name shop at the mall? yes please.- bagelmaster, on 02/27/2008, -6/+19techno? No thanks
- nekochan, on 02/27/2008, -18/+5enjoy your ***** rap.
- bagelmaster, on 02/27/2008, -6/+7metal
- isaactwito, on 02/27/2008, -9/+5No, techno is usually horrible *****. And there's ***** huge amount of good underground rap. Actually most underground music is decent.
- nekochan, on 02/27/2008, -18/+5enjoy your ***** rap.
- toxicshok, on 02/27/2008, -4/+1european? No thanks.
- Jimmeeee, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1compilation? No thanks.
- bagelmaster, on 02/27/2008, -6/+19techno? No thanks
- SuperMoses, on 02/27/2008, -0/+6I don't think it's the prices as much as the format. CDs are old news. How many people have a "CD player" nowadays.
- KingGorilla, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2well mines a few years old and gets a good 28 mpg
- Jashobeam5, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Those who have a DVD player? We haev a DVD burner/DVD player/CD player. I gave away our last CD/stero/cassette player.
- tones1, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4Umm, except for cars? Most people have cars..
- SuperMoses, on 03/01/2008, -0/+1Most teenagers?
- ronaldinho, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7How about the RIAA pays the artist back at least 70% of the total sales instead of the current and paltry 13%? Sorry if I'm wrong on the current artist royalty rate
- nekochan, on 02/27/2008, -20/+7the secret is to not listen to pop music.
- EdgarVerona, on 02/27/2008, -2/+14For about that many % of teenagers I knew when I was a teenager (before digital downloads came around) this was also true.
Hell, CDs were still new tech. You just copied cassettes.- joebaloney, on 02/27/2008, -2/+2I was a teenager in those days, and it was nowhere near the scale that music is being pirated now. It was just too much hassle.
- kashk5, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2Plus, blank CDs cost more than the mere pittance they do today.
I remember copying a Linkin Park CD for a bunch of my friends. Was a total hassle with the expensive blank discs and the slow burning speed. - NeonFire, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1It was a lot more hassle than it is today but it was done a lot nonetheless.
- kashk5, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2Plus, blank CDs cost more than the mere pittance they do today.
- joebaloney, on 02/27/2008, -2/+2I was a teenager in those days, and it was nowhere near the scale that music is being pirated now. It was just too much hassle.
- amjwh99, on 02/27/2008, -3/+23I don't remember the last time I bought a CD. Maybe in 1999 or 2000...
- bSimms, on 02/27/2008, -2/+30I bought my first CD in a few years about 2 weeks ago. It was for a lady friend and it was totally worth it :)
- mediaspree, on 02/27/2008, -0/+12Mix tapes man, mix tapes.
- JibberGeorge, on 02/27/2008, -0/+8Bown chicka bown bownnnnnnn
- khail250, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1mom?
- CrazedLeper, on 02/27/2008, -2/+50Only 48%? We got work to do!
- mehss, on 02/27/2008, -10/+23Lossy formats from downloads ftl.
- zephyear, on 02/27/2008, -1/+24.flac
- homesqua, on 02/27/2008, -1/+10yeah... let me know when you get .flac from your itunes downloads..
- skyshock1, on 02/27/2008, -0/+6Yet another reason NOT to use iTunes
- rowjimmy, on 02/27/2008, -1/+0bt.etree.org + archive.org = all the free flac/shn you could ever need
- homesqua, on 02/27/2008, -1/+10yeah... let me know when you get .flac from your itunes downloads..
- bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -8/+6Considering most audiophiles cant tell the difference in quality from a variable bitrate aac at a 128 low to a lossless compressed song, i am goingto have to say that there is nothing wrong with them
- azey47, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4Really? Using Sennheiser HD-600 headphones I could hear the difference between an MP3 being decoded with Apollo vs being decoded with Wavelab. When I ran the comparison test of the waveforms it amounted to a difference of .03dB. I was surprised that my ears were that sensitive considering I'm completely untrained.
Now I find it hard to believe that true audiophiles wouldn't be able to hear the difference between VB AAC @ 128 min since 256kbps AAC sounds noticeably worse than lossless or uncompressed.
P.S. My results matched my partner's restults, and I did the test blind (I wasn't even told that the two samples played were different until afterwards), so the difference wasn't my imagination.- bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Any proof?
About 4 months ago an article stating exactly what i just was posted to digg. - Sulleric, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1bejayel, your wording is wrong. I can understand that most "people" wouldn't notice the difference, because they don't care that their ***** music sounds *****. My sister has a mix cd with a nickelback track that was previously encoded with a very low bitrate, and every time she plays it in the car I can feel my spine starting to splinter. However, an "audiophile" (like myself) can DEFINITELY tell the difference, especially with the right listening gear. I'm using a set of Bose Companion II speakers, and listen almost exclusively to ALAC or V0, because of how incredibly crisp it sounds compared to lower compression rates.
- bejayel, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1That fact that you use bose makes you a "regular person" and not an audiophile
- bejayel, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Any proof?
- PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -1/+0The easiest way to tell the difference: surround speakers
And I'm not talking high-end expensive ones. When I was in my early teenage years my stereo had the two main speakers, plus a little center speaker and 2 little surround speakers. When I burned CDs of 128 kbps songs, the surround speakers make sounds like completely garbled nonsense. But when I used 320 kbps mp3s or lossless, they sounded great.
You don't have to be an audiophile to hear the difference. You don't even have to listen for it. It's just blatant.
- azey47, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4Really? Using Sennheiser HD-600 headphones I could hear the difference between an MP3 being decoded with Apollo vs being decoded with Wavelab. When I ran the comparison test of the waveforms it amounted to a difference of .03dB. I was surprised that my ears were that sensitive considering I'm completely untrained.
- samuraipizzacat, on 02/27/2008, -7/+2FLAC is overrated
- Rizzy, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3Since most of the population aren't true audiophiles and listen to their music on cheap headphones or in their cars, it doesn't really matter all that much anyway.
- BurningFly, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3I second the notion that mp3 will do...play an mp3 versus a phase inverted wave file (a phase inverted wave played against the same wave will cancel perfectly-ie you will hear no sound) and the only thing you can hear (ie the difference) is some extremely high frequency stuff that most speakers can't even faithfully reproduce. Its an arbitrary test but it demonstrates the point well enough...I'm guessing most people dont listen to their music on studio speakers...hell, people have been happily listening to radio for years!
- zephyear, on 02/27/2008, -1/+24.flac
- CaptainM4d, on 02/27/2008, -9/+23I bought tons of CDs last year. Don't see what the big fuss is all about.
- obe1kenobi, on 02/27/2008, -3/+4Me too.
- Roninsama, on 02/27/2008, -7/+2you gonna get trolled, buddy.
/hell - EXreaction, on 02/27/2008, -3/+6The fuss is about supporting the RIAA. The artists make next to nothing on it.
- CaptainM4d, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4I buy mostly independent and local albums.
- PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -1/+0Wow, too bad there aren't artists that are INDEPENDENT of the RIAA, eh? They'd probably even have the creative freedom to make music that wasn't sculpted by the RIAA to sound how they wanted it!
Too bad... - falcon1, on 02/27/2008, -2/+2As opposed to the artists making absolutely nothing when you don't buy any albums?
- giggl3, on 02/28/2008, -0/+0"The fuss is about supporting the RIAA. The artists make next to nothing on it."
So what it's not like artists have enough money as it is.
- ozanweb, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7The big fuss is that the group you're apparently NOT in, composing of 48% of the teenager population bought no CDs in 2007. Traditionally they buy a lot of CDs, now they don't; that's a big change, so there's a big fuss.
- NeonFire, on 02/28/2008, -0/+2Four letters: R. I. A. A.
'Nuff said.
- NeonFire, on 02/28/2008, -0/+2Four letters: R. I. A. A.
- jeremyduffy, on 02/27/2008, -8/+1Thank you Captain Obvious!
- mogebier, on 02/27/2008, -5/+41I would buy more music if 99.9% of it wasn't total and complete CRAP.
I think the Music Industry will give a recording contract to anyone who has 1 or 2 good single songs in them. Think about the last CD you bought..... did it have a lot of good songs on it, or just the few that were on the radio and the rest seemed to be "fillers"??
I am jovial when I buy a CD and I like the whole thing, but that is rare.- obe1kenobi, on 02/27/2008, -1/+28Maybe if you stop buying the crappy music, it wouldn't be such a big problem. You're buying the wrong artists, when they only have a couple good songs.
- mogebier, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1Yeah, that's not a very good answer.
How do you know what is good until you buy it???- tidu, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1last.fm?
- mogebier, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1Yeah, that's not a very good answer.
- kirkis, on 02/27/2008, -2/+6No i agree, what the ***** came out last year? i can't name one cd that came out last year that i liked
- Matt2k, on 02/27/2008, -4/+7Sound of Silver, Year Zero, In Rainbows, We are the night
I don't listen to a lot of music, but there's 4 off the top of my head- fotbr, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Glad you found stuff you liked, but I didn't like any of those. I did, however, buy quite a few CDs in the last year, all from secondspin.com and amazon's "used" sellers.
- LeeSoong, on 02/27/2008, -6/+1Windows VISTA ?
- litolist, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4WRONG - that was on a DVD. :-P
- PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -1/+0Grand National by John Butler Trio
My opinion, best CD of the year.
Some people on here will say In Rainbows, but I'm not really a Radiohead fan (although I have The Bends). But they're my girlfriend's favorite band, and she didn't think it was that great either. - skyshock1, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1Colors - Between the Buried and Me
Ziltoid the Omniscient - Devin Townsend
Ghost Reveries - Opeth
The New Black - Strapping Young Lad
I could go on. - ShinRaTDR, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1Off the top of my head, Lupe Fiasco's The Cool, It wasn't a great year but there were some good releases.
- Matt2k, on 02/27/2008, -4/+7Sound of Silver, Year Zero, In Rainbows, We are the night
- carlos259, on 02/27/2008, -1/+6which is partly why iTunes is #2 music retailer - you can pick only the songs you like and buy them. voila:)
- Misanthrope, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2The new Bad Religion album was pretty much full of good songs.
/don't care what you think of them, so please save your breath - PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -2/+4"Think about the last CD you bought..... did it have a lot of good songs on it..."
Yep. I love almost every one.
"..., or just the few that were on the radio and the rest seemed to be "fillers"??"
Actually, I haven't heard any of them on the radio, but they may have been a little bit. But hardly. No fillers though.
You need to find better bands dude.- bemyokono, on 02/28/2008, -1/+1burried for being pretentious
- evalionint, on 03/02/2008, -0/+1Last CD I bought was in year 2003 in Walmart and I still can't get over it.I became part of each and every song on this CD.I would gladly do that somewhere in studio for money of course but just like that in my own residence without even asking to become a "star".No,no,and one more time no! Who would even allow this people to do this?
- bemyokono, on 02/28/2008, -1/+1burried for being pretentious
- Corrosionx, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1Yep I bought Serj Tankian's album and all the song are killers.
- Light11, on 02/27/2008, -2/+2lupe fiasco, talib kweli (both), cunninlynguists. all good.
- obe1kenobi, on 02/27/2008, -1/+28Maybe if you stop buying the crappy music, it wouldn't be such a big problem. You're buying the wrong artists, when they only have a couple good songs.
- billraydrums, on 02/27/2008, -5/+14I buy my music from independent bands, preferably through iTunes. Never again will I buy a CD that is issued by a major label. I'm in the business but feel extremely disgusted with the way record companies have handled themselves. They are only looking out for themselves. Artists are essentially "indentured servants" to them.
Oh yeah ***** THE RIAA.- LeeSoong, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4Bands need to learn, or hire someone, to set up their own web site,
give away a couple of songs,
and link to their latest album on iTunes -
FORGET about the 'Labels' - they are dead.
Getting concert bookings is where they turn the most profit...
The better musicians realize they are in a competitive business,
and every dollar counts... no 'party like a rock star' B.S. - invest that money ... retire by 30.
Then do a dozen shows a year in 'reunion' concerts...- billraydrums, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Touring schedules are becoming increasingly difficult (seen the cost of fuel lately?) and bands are spending more of their take-home pay on those costs. (I know this all to well).
The places musicians will excel these days is through the licensing of their music to films, marketing campaigns, etc. Also merch sales can help tremendously.
That does not say that live music is dead. True musicians will play music because that's what fuels us. The idea that your favorite band playing a round of club dates is making a pile of $$$ is a myth. SUPPORT INDEPENDENT MUSIC. (Please?) :D- aromavit, on 02/28/2008, -0/+0thanx for writing that. I even translated it to my russian blog. http://atmoravi.livejournal.com/552081.html
in Russia no bands earn a penny on CDs. The sole source of income is playing live - and mostly on corporate parties. which is real bad - no show whatsoever and pnly "favorite tunes".
- aromavit, on 02/28/2008, -0/+0thanx for writing that. I even translated it to my russian blog. http://atmoravi.livejournal.com/552081.html
- billraydrums, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Touring schedules are becoming increasingly difficult (seen the cost of fuel lately?) and bands are spending more of their take-home pay on those costs. (I know this all to well).
- iceman0113, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4I prefer not to buy from iTunes but from their website instead. Why? iTunes do not pay the artist; they pay the labels and in turn the labels the screw the artist out of royalties from digital downloads: http://torrentfreak.com/pirated-by-itunes-artist-t ...
- PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1That was why he said independent bands. As in, independent from major labels.
- bdbr, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Same here, minus the iTunes. My order of choice:
1. If I really like it, I buy direct from the label if possible. Indie labels generally split 50/50 with the artist, and if you eliminate a retailer that makes their cut even better.
2. eMusic - great prices, though I realize the artist will make the same pittance as iTunes. I'm just not willing to pay $10 for some music.
3. Amazon - if eMusic doesn't carry it.
- LeeSoong, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4Bands need to learn, or hire someone, to set up their own web site,
- xXGeechXx, on 02/27/2008, -1/+8Soon CD's will become a niche,
I don't get it though if I'm going to pay for something on Itunes I would much rather have a disc...
Personally I illegally download all my music and if it's an album I really like I look for the Vinyl version of it I have a pretty solid collection going, I still buy the odd CD as well. - joehe, on 02/27/2008, -2/+0Damn...it's been years...too many to remember.
- spz104, on 02/27/2008, -2/+70and 92% bought zero Records
and 99% bought zero 8-tracks
and time changes things 100%...- PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -4/+4"and time changes things 100%..."
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Some things never change. - Mr.Gone, on 02/27/2008, -1/+13For everything else there's Mastercard
- Jones82, on 02/28/2008, -0/+31% of teens bought 8-tracks?
- PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -4/+4"and time changes things 100%..."
- DyMndSkiR, on 02/27/2008, -3/+3I think I bought a few CDs as gifts for Christmas for friends, but I haven't bought a CD for personal use in probably 7 years.
It doesn't help their industry that a lot of the music being released these days sucks complete ass in my opinion. I've turned all of my listening interests into either talk radio or audio sources like podcasts. I only listen to the radio when I have others in my car, but never a CD. - LovelyNeko, on 02/27/2008, -5/+26***** THE RIAA!!
- comocomo, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2YEAH
- NeonFire, on 02/28/2008, -0/+2I agree though it's creepy how every story posted on Digg ends up with several comments saying "***** THE RIAA!!" with caps and exclamation marks?
- Emachine, on 02/27/2008, -9/+3Are those things still around?
- EvanWindsor, on 02/27/2008, -2/+1Yea, but only in Canada.
- Divals, on 02/27/2008, -0/+6I buy CDs all the time, but only if I can get them for like $5 or so. The one exception to that is if I'm at a concert and have the opportunity to have the band sign a CD, then I'll pay pretty much whatever they want for it... but that's usually something like $10 or $12, not too bad for a signed CD.
- PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0At concerts is usually the cheapest place to get CDs
- Divals, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1You got a point there. I bought one new CD from a store last year, and it cost $17... Hurrah for gift cards!
- GeorgeClayton, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1*****
- PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0At concerts is usually the cheapest place to get CDs
- Apokalips1337, on 02/27/2008, -4/+17i hate downloading music, even though i do it, i still hate it, i would rather have a hard copy with all the book art and im a a teenager
- ronaldinho, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2I will buy the CD if it's really worth the money. Red Hot Chili Peppers for life
- lukemandese, on 02/27/2008, -0/+37Everyone vote for 8-Track on the survey
- zeusgodmann, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7It's up 14.6%!
Keep voting people! 8 track FTW! - tgc1, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Done and Done.
- KingGorilla, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1yes! 14.8%!
- zeusgodmann, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7It's up 14.6%!
- Roninsama, on 02/27/2008, -5/+1NOT accurate! They didn't have my opinion.
make that 50%- EvanWindsor, on 02/27/2008, -0/+5Yes because there are 50 teenagers in the nation, which means you make up 2%.
- phogasmic, on 02/27/2008, -8/+6I'm not a teenager, but I haven't brought a CD since 2003, when the ITunes store opened up on PC's. heres another interesting tidbit, I haven't brought a DVD since the Apple TV update. I think we are in the last days of delivering media on discs. Thats why Blu Rays victory was kind of moot.
- NeonFire, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1We understand. You're a HD-DVD supporter. Yes, your format lost. Horribly.
- phogasmic, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1no bro. I am a download supporter.
- NeonFire, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1We understand. You're a HD-DVD supporter. Yes, your format lost. Horribly.
- kubit, on 02/27/2008, -3/+2Why bother buying music on CD when there are million MTV type channels, even more digital radio stations and absolutely nothing WORTH buying
- charman2k6, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Since I got Sirius last May, I think I have made 2 cd's for my car.
- PoopOnPaul, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0"absolutely nothing WORTH buying"
Look harder. There's plenty of good music out there. What's being pushed out by the mainstream these days tends to suck, but come on, this is the internet age, where you can find almost literally any band in the world, from junior high kids playing in their basement across the country from you to major bands overseas, all just sitting at your computer. There's a lot more music than is on the radio and MTV, and a lot of it is good. - NeonFire, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1So you don't have to watch the utter trash that is MTV?
- mickhead, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7I bought about 30. But downloaded many more. But if it wern't for the downloading, I wouldn't have bought any of those cds.
I like having cds, especially special edition ones and weird ones. I have one that is cased in an old 5" floppy disc, it kicks ass. - KevInTx, on 02/27/2008, -5/+20Hey, I'm 42 and I can't remember the last time I purchased a CD, if I can't purchase it as a digital download... I'm really not interested.
Personally, I find the whole RIAA complaint about CD sales silly. The CD is a dead/dying technology that is being replaced by digital downloads. It would be like music industry complaining about less than 1% of the US population purchased music on 8-track tape last year... it MUST be because of illegal downloads.
The business model of music etched into some form of plastic sold at a brick and mortar store is dead... the music industry needs to evolve or die.- hueyha, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Dugg you, old man, for being someone over thirty who actually sees the flawed arguments of the RIAA. The Industry obviously isn't listening to the complaints of teenagers because they apparently know nothing.
- Biks, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2I'd like to point out that I'm older than that guy (46) and I do agree with the RIAA that downloading music is illegal. Is it WRONG? Eh...I don't care. I haven't bought a CD in over 10 years. Now that I'm an old fart who is starting to enjoy classical music more, guess where I'm going with my laptop to rip some Beethoven? Hint: the library. Yours truly, a old music whore. :-)
- hueyha, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Dugg you, old man, for being someone over thirty who actually sees the flawed arguments of the RIAA. The Industry obviously isn't listening to the complaints of teenagers because they apparently know nothing.
- Synthesize, on 02/27/2008, -1/+17I usually download albums from the internet and if I really like it I will actually go out and buy the CD. Nothing is better than lossless quality audio, plus you can easily rip them on your computer. I'm also the type of person who wants their physical copy.
- jm4847, on 02/27/2008, -5/+4I have never bought a CD in my life. And seeing how the record companies have been acting, I never intent to buy one.l
- prleet, on 02/27/2008, -2/+3I bought over 5-100 pack CD's..does that count..
- NStuart88, on 02/27/2008, -1/+7It is almost like saying % of teenagers buying VHS Tapes, it is not really that irrelevant but still the next big thing is out and it is time to move on.
- robotplague, on 02/27/2008, -3/+5I probably bought between 70-90 CDs last year. I design CD packages for a living, so that has a lot to do with it. I love the design of the physical package it comes in, digital distribution of my music is something that I will fight off for as long as possible.
- indyGuy, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4I will miss the album art. It's nice to look at, but not worth carrying around with me everywhere I go.
- niobevulpes, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3The album art can accompany my mp3s on my walkman phone.
- DisposableRob, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Digital files aren't limited by the small inches of space that a CD cover has. Downloaded albums should have detailed liner notes with intricate art included. Just a small thumbnail should be needed for digital players to identify an album while it's playing. I hate that it's not like this yet.
- o0joshua0o, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2That's the exact number of CDs I bought last year. I bought tons of music, though.
- andejp12, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3I have to admit I'm surprised to see the number is so high. I really didn't buy CD's in my teenage years but I have started to buy more of them as of late. They work great in the fact that I can get a high quality rip off of them and then my better half can get a copy on her iPod too. That plus the fact that I have a physical backup in case my hard drive crashes is a good enough reason for me to keep buying CDs.
Oh yeah and I can lend a CD to a friend if I think that they'd like the music. - kingUssop, on 02/27/2008, -6/+2wait 52% DID? must have been buying some classics
- bmson, on 02/27/2008, -9/+2Let's sue these *****...
- qishi, on 02/27/2008, -5/+3Nice job trying to be smart with the parentheses, MrBabyMan. But you've done it backwards.
- Woecip, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2)----**----(
Tie fighter attack on you!
- Woecip, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2)----**----(
- fittysix, on 02/27/2008, -5/+36I bought 50 CDs last year..
They come in spindles like that :D- digitallysick, on 02/27/2008, -4/+3haha
- giggl3, on 02/28/2008, -0/+0Haha, in that case I bought 1 50PK, and 1 100PK (Dvd'r's) thats right I copy movies ***** YOU RIAA/MPIAA only DVDs/CDs I buy are to copy MP3s,DVD'rs :O
- katrayun, on 02/27/2008, -9/+1Why buy a cd when you could purchase the album and download it? Cds still significantly more than an album off iTunes or Amazon, the case becomes more clutter that few people need, the disc itself is less convenient to use than mp3s... and so on. The only time I buy a cd is when it isn't offered for download anywhere. This leads me to buy 0-1 cd a year.
Of course, there are those who still get a lot out of owning the whole physical package, but they seem to be a dying breed.- theratdotus, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2pack rats should be shot
- Whippets, on 02/27/2008, -2/+1"Why buy a cd when you could purchase the album and download it?"
Why purchase the album and download it when you can skip the purchasing part?
- cledet, on 02/27/2008, -10/+4I'm 19 and I obtain all of my music via iTunes but sometimes I buy the CDs then rip em to my computer. Afterwards, I never see that CD again! Who wants to go to the store and purchase an over-priced CD when you can just, click-click-download! Digital media FTW!
- Buckeye70, on 02/27/2008, -4/+10Someone who wants quality audio. Not that 128kps crap on itunes.
- katrayun, on 02/27/2008, -1/+5Yes, well, not everyone is an audiophile. I honestly cannot tell the difference.
- iRoy, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4Someone who wants quality audio buys vinyl.
- ZacEfronFan, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3128 kbps .aac files (which is what iTunes uses) is not the same as 128 kbps .mp3. Know what you're talking about.
As far as "digital media ftw," I'll admit that most of my music is downloaded. But there is a part of me that wishes I had a CD collection. That's why it's nice to have physical media.- Buckeye70, on 02/27/2008, -1/+0Sorry, police. Forgot one letter. And yes I know they are different.
- jaewon223, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1why don't you undust your vhs collection and watch those bad boys? u dinosaur
- jaewon223, on 02/27/2008, -0/+299% audiophiles cannot tell the difference. let me guess you are the 1%
- Buckeye70, on 02/27/2008, -4/+10Someone who wants quality audio. Not that 128kps crap on itunes.
- insanebrain, on 02/27/2008, -2/+4So ??? I never bought a music cd in my life.
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