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New Radiohead album In Rainbows ... pay what you think it's worth

inrainbows.com — Pay nothing if you like. Interesting experiment...

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  • HUNK23, on 10/21/2007, -11/+167omfg! Yes!
    • oo7akbnd, on 10/21/2007, -0/+55Yes :)
      Everything IS in it's right place...
      • oo7akbnd, on 10/21/2007, -2/+6"its" not "it's"
        my bad..
      • artofwar420, on 10/19/2007, -0/+4This is genius, I'd much rather pay them, than spend an eternity trying to find it via torrent. I did pay them, I feel good too. I'm sure they got ALL the money.

        I feel awesome. YES!
    • Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Sorry for comment abuse BUT listen to the songs here before you buy:

      http://www.nme.com/news/radiohead/31468
    • themoosejuice, on 10/10/2007, -14/+0MP3!! Where are the links? I dont want to wait till Oct 10, anyone have a torrent link?
      • Audacitor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Dude, you're destroying the system that pirates, file-sharers, digg, and just about every music lover out there have been wailing for!
        Ungrateful bastard.
    • SimonGray, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5This reminded me of the Kid A album which was (officially?) promoted using Napster:

      "Along with the accusations that Napster was hurting the sales of the record industry, there were those who felt just the opposite, that file trading on Napster actually stimulated, rather than hurt, sales. Proof may have come in July 2000 when tracks from English rock band Radiohead's album Kid A found their way to Napster three months before the CD's release. Unlike Madonna, Dr. Dre or Metallica, Radiohead had never hit the top 20 in the US. Furthermore, Kid A was an experimental album without any singles, and received relatively little radio airplay. By the time of the record's release, the album was estimated to have been downloaded for free by millions of people worldwide, and in October 2000 Kid A captured the number one spot on the Billboard 200 sales chart in its debut week."
      • soundavarice, on 11/18/2007, -1/+0What a shameless publicity stunt. How much respect can a group have for it's fans when they are offered a choice between an $81 album including vinyl (which most will find useless) and an inherently low quality mp3 download. Many are being fleeced $81 for a decent quality alternative to a crappy MP3 download - we should all expect sound quality of a conventional sort and not have to pay through the nose for it. The download should be available in a lossless format or the CD should cost $20 at most. I will purchase this only when it comes out on CD...and at a reasonable price.
  • rgodfrey, on 10/10/2007, -2/+54Can anyone divine what format this download will be in? The "advice" is less than helpful.
    • No13Baby, on 10/10/2007, -2/+40I bet it will be DRM-free MP3. But betting is all you can do, at this point.
      • hawarkarem, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19im sure they wont have DRM..that'l be the opposite direction.

        i wonder if we'll be able to see a graph of how much people payed...I payed £8
        • rgodfrey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I paid £6. Hopefully it's a format I'll be able to use. (Please no Microsoft DRM.)
        • freakk123, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Thom Yorke is a mac user. Radiohead are well known mac advocates (though they haven't put their music on iTunes). No Microsoft DRM, don't worry.
        • exomni, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2They told me to pay what it's worth... well I don't know what it's worth because I haven't listened to it yet... so yeah, guess I'll have to pirate it first. *sigh*
          • caselogic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4you can pay nothing then pay for it when you like it.
      • gavin422, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8I'm more curious as to what the bitrate will be. Hopefully none of the 128kbps crap like on the iTunes store.
        • Nerfdude, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4if it is, i'll just get it the normal way. i wouldn't take anything lower than 192kbps, even if it was free and legal.
        • cdiggy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15iTunes store uses AAC @ 128kbps which is about equivalent to an mp3 @ 192 kbps. I've heard bad sounding mp3's @ 128 but not @ 192. So AAC @ 128 sounds fine to my ears. I'm no audiophile, but I do have a discerning ear, probably much better than the majority. So if AAC @ 128 sucks for you then unless you are an audiophile then u r just a hater and just like bitching and moaning about ***** you don't understand.
          • spyrochaete, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Rip your favourite song off a CD at 128kbps and at 320kbps and burn them both. Listen to the first 20 seconds of each. You'll hear the difference immediately - especially if there's a lot of delicate treble like guitar strings being plucked or hi-hat cymbals.
    • FBombAndy, on 10/10/2007, -8/+4Yes, it is divine...
    • smartass007, on 10/11/2007, -17/+33studio quality flac is all i'd pay for
      • chobbney, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21Why are people digging you down? I fully agree with you.
        MP3s are a step backwards in sound quality. I'd pay for lossless but never for MP3.

        Not enough people care about the quality of the sound, or maybe they just can't hear the difference.
      • Elohir, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14I imagine you're being dugg-down because even though this will probably be standard mp3 it's still a significant step in the right direction.

        Personally, I have no problem with the mp3 format but I'm aware that a lot of people do have. Maybe next we'll be provided with an option for lossless downloads. I imagine it wouldn't take a lot of digging around (no pun intended) to find a contact email to request it.

        Either way, this is a great thing for Radiohead to do and a promising step forward for artists and music-lovers alike.
      • mindsnare, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4man, Audiophiles are such wankers. get over your pretty ears high quality MP3 sounds perfectly fine.
    • TomRemixed, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5The reason you're being dugg down is because you are being a snobby audiophile. Most people have very modest setups that wouldn't allow them to hear the difference. Also I would bet you anything that you would not be able to tell the difference between a 320kbps mp3 file and a flac file.
  • whoadude, on 10/10/2007, -2/+67Pre-ordered. The next 10 days are going to drag by as I wait to get my hands on those MP3s.
    • greekgoat91, on 10/10/2007, -6/+13mp3s, i don't think so. this band will probably give us FLAC!
      • kevin_qnn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16they better have some good ***** servers if they're gonna be doing FLAC. high quality mp3 would be my guess and if you want lossless you gotta buy the cd and rip it yourself (which i will probably do when the CD comes out)
        • digismack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17I wonder if they will provide a torrent for those who choose the free route?
        • adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sure, they'd need better servers and more bandwidth.

          But then, part of this exercise is that buyers get to pay what they think the album is worth. And I think a flac version is worth more than an mp3 version. If I give them an extra $1 or $2 for the flac version, wouldn't that more than pay for the extra bandwidth?
      • bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7hopefully they'll give us "options" but hi quality MP3's would suffice
    • timdorr, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17Who cares what format the downloads are on. I'm totally getting that Discbox. The album in CD and vinyl, another enhanced CD with bonus tracks, lyrics, artwork, and a nice case for the whole thing. Yeah, it's expensive, but it's totally worth it.
  • Darrelc, on 10/19/2007, -22/+361As much as I've never been a big fan of Radiohead I applaud them for this. Allowing fans to buy it direct at a price they want? with no RIAA bollocks? quality stuff, I wish more bands would release stuff like this. I just hope CD's don't go away, or at least lossless downloads with artwork are available.
    I hope this sends a message to the record labels: "we're bored and tired of your *****". Radiohead don't have a label and now they can proverbially do what the ***** they want. which Im guessing the public will like.

    Edit: This is gonna be massive too. the torrent site I'm a member of, 8125 people have requested it, the most requested album there.
    • canewediggit, on 10/27/2007, -18/+404how about those 8125 go get the album from the band directly for whatever price they want? god forbid you fork over $1 to get the album on release day directly from the artist. ***** cheapskates. here's a band doing EVERYTHING we always say we want bands to do, and people still want to rip them off. i hope they get virus laden torrents tracked by the mpaa.

      if you're going to bitch about the music industry, start supporting the artists doing things the right way.
      • Darrelc, on 10/10/2007, -41/+19Did I ever say I didn't support the musicians?. Stop flipping out. I rarely download music (I'm not going to pretend I don't) And I buy my fair share of CD's and go to shows, I'm betting a fair percentage of them will buy it anyway.
        By the way, saying "I hope They all get virus laden torrents tracked by the MPAA" (Corrected your capitalization there.) the MPAA is the Motion Picture Association of America, Not the recording industry. If you're gonna make crap digs at least get them right.
        • canewediggit, on 10/10/2007, -3/+60i wasn't jumping on you, just the 8125 people that feel the need to pirate an album the artist is giving away. as for the mpaa/riaa typo; ***** happens.
          • johnny23, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15Funny, I always thought of an album as the band's marketing tool to go see them live. Isn't that where they make most of their money anyway?
          • fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3They make most of their money from record deals with record labels and from cd sales. Not from concerts. When a record label contracts them to produce x albums they're given $y,000,000 just for the the contract.

            They might receive more money per ticket then they do per cd but it's not exactly feasible to sell millions of concert tickets. They'd have to perform for 20,000 people a week every year just to hit one million.

            Then there's the actual spread of cd's verse concerts. Most bands will only hit a few cities in their non-native country. Their cd (or other distribution method) can reach an entire country a lot easier.
          • wattznext, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17@fkr3

            Most bands are given an "advance" on their albums. Large sums of money that are paid back from the record sales before the bands see dime one. Most bands get 2-3 points (1 point = 1 dollar) per cd. Lets say a band sells a million records. $2,000,000, minus the advance, minus management, lawyers, promoters, etc, divided by 4 (or however many in the band) doesn't leave very much. Bands make most money from playing shows and selling merch.

            Radiohead is using the perfect formula. Let the record company's promotions department make you huge for a few years, then break free from the tyranny and circumvent the RIAA ***** now that you are big enough to do so. Traditionally, the only reason to sign with a record label is because they controlled the means of production and distribution, and they had the only means of mass promotion. With the internet, that is no longer the case. ***** big record labels!
        • robbiemuffin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+68125, huh? is that the count of illegal downloaders in the northern half of greenland?
        • Darrelc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19Fair play mate, thought you were having a go at me. My bad! whats the concencus on a "Fair Price" for an album like this? imo it depends on the format. I wouldn't pay 10£ for a 128kbit MP3 Version but a lossless one with the full artwork would easily be worth a tenner. I think CD prices are fair anyway, Just not enough goes to the artists.
          • canewediggit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20no sweat. my fantasy team got their ass handed to them today and i've been drinking for the past few hours, so i'm a bit snippy......

            i'll be kicking in $10.
        • navitatl, on 10/10/2007, -9/+3Oink FTW.
          In case you didn't know, you can put in "0.0" for the radiohead album and still get it. So downloading it on bittorrent isn't immoral at all, maybe that's just the prefered method.
      • Gnasche, on 10/10/2007, -21/+6So you can't give the band money if you get it from a torrent? I doubt that. I'll be downloading it from a torrent because shared bandwidth on a flat monthly price is more efficient than grabbing it from the band's ISP where they likely pay based on the amount of bandwidth used.
        • canewediggit, on 10/10/2007, -6/+42hold on, let me check my calendar. what do you know? it's rationalize like a pirate day! good to see you're celebrating.
          • Gnasche, on 10/10/2007, -10/+3lol, shared bandwidth needs to stop being associated with piracy. It's more efficient in speed and cost, and you're currently complaining because something free is using it. I guess today must be irrationalize like a propaganda puppet day.
          • ccheath, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Gnasche's correct.
            I F you think that the album is worthless (and submit $0.00) as the price you will pay then you'll still get the album, but the band will have to pay for your bandwidth to get it...so they're paying you to listen at that point.
            Call it rationalizing like a pirate if you will, but at least it is rational.
        • miken32, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5you certainly could give them money, but chances are 99% of those 8125 people will not do so. and don't give us that ***** about how "shared bandwidth needs to stop being associated with piracy" because it will be until 95% of torrent traffic stops being pirated content.
          • aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Though, for a band as popular as Radiohead, using a torrent would make a lot of sense. The site is already struggling, and they aren't even serving files yet. Yes, shared bandwidth is currently associated with pirating, but this sort of thing is what the protocol was originally intended for.
      • poutch, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9it's not 8125 request in the last hour, it took a few years to get where it's at right now. the site in question is specialize in leaks. now radiohead is doing something that has never been done before: leaking the album themselves and they ask a price for it. that's brilliant. i won't need to download the torrent the when it will be uploaded on that torrent site, but i'm keeping my request just in case it leaks before october 10
    • adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -7/+11First of all, I applaud Radiohead for doing this as well. They're in a position where they're successful enough to take a little risk (and probably this isn't even that risky), and I'm glad somebody's doing it.

      Second, this is just about as good a place as any to mention this (there's no good place), but I remain completely clueless about their music. I'm pretty into music, having played the piano for 20+ years, and I bought "OK Computer" because of all the great reviews and comments from people I know who are talented musicians, but I just don't get what it's about. Don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that I don't get what's going on musically or artistically.

      It may be just shy of impossible to put it into words in a digg post, but if someone can enlighten me at least about what to listen for, maybe I'll have an epiphany and eventually be able to grok it. You'd be helping out someone who feels fairly clueless and in the dark about stuff. :-)
      • toast24, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Grab a live concert - that is the easiest way to understand what it's all about. At least, that's how I finally understood!
      • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Ooof. It's hard to give just one thing to listen for, and it's hard to explain why it's great without knowing you and your taste better. The one big tip is to give it several listens, their music tends to be complex and it takes the brain a while to unwrap it, not to mention adjust to their sound in general (and Yorke's voice, for some people). It's a little presumptuous of me to recommend one song since I don't know your taste, but try listening to Let Down in particular a few times and see if it doesn't move you.

        You might also want to give The Bends and Kid A a listen, both are quite different from OK Computer (and each other, all three albums are different) and one of them might be more likely to strike a chord with you. Kid A is my personal favorite.
        • ShootTheCore, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Don't judge Radiohead on the strength of OK Computer. It IS a good album, just extraordinarily over-rated. Try Kid A and The Bends. If you like The Bends, Pablo Honey is worth a listen. if you like Kid A, the Amnesiac is worth a listen
      • Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yeah you're gonna have a hard time. Radioheads' sound has completely changed over the years. Whilst many feel the sweet spot is OK Computer, I actually thought Hail To The Thief was pretty good to.

        Look for The Bends/ Kid A/ and maybe Hail to the thief
      • mahdaeng, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I admire your candor. Radiohead's music is like any other form of art: you either like it or you don't.
      • nightswimmer16, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0You play the piano so please give a listen to pyramid song:
        http://youtube.com/watch?v=I_6begaAXMg
        Also I think you will like sail to the moon:
        http://youtube.com/watch?v=M-hGJ1KRvXY
    • mapledell, on 10/10/2007, -17/+4yah, like oink is some big secret.
    • addisonj, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1hey fellow oink user!
    • readerofbooks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1hello OINKers
  • Evdawg, on 11/10/2007, -6/+390It's not an experiment. It's called doing it right.
    • jodofashodo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+34Pretty soon, this is going to be the way to go. Maybe not paying whatever you want, but definitely no more labels. There doesn't need to be...out of style.
      • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Not just out of style, out of function. They serve little practical function now, new technologies have made them obsolete.
    • CapeKid, on 10/10/2007, -1/+40Actually, hobos have distributed music this way for years.
      • yunus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27The HIAA is already sending letters to Radiohead concerning copyright violation for stealing their distribution model.
    • zeejay, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Stephen King did this with a book of his, a few years ago. A ton of people downloaded it, and only a tiny, tiny fraction paid anything. It was a total financial failure. I will be shocked if this doesn't shake out the same way. When you use the honor system, 99% of the populace reveal themselves to be total douchebags.
      • trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I have personally met 2 musicians and 3 Authors who live entirely off of money made by "selling" Creative Commons licensed content. Have some faith in people, they can sometimes surprise you, not only that, but they are much more willing to support you if you don't treat them like criminals.
        • Tralobyte, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Do they make as much as the average artist who actually sells his/her products?
          • fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2If you factor in their day jobs.....
          • dpjames, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5the average artist makes zero, so, probably
      • dragonlor20, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11The book was titled "Ride the Bullet," and you have really glossed over the many causes why that book failed in order to make a petty non-factual point about something entirely unrelated. The reason Ride the Bullet was unsuccessful was at least in large part due to the fact that it was not one of Stephen King's better books, written after what I (and not I alone) consider to be beyond the peak of his career. Think about where computers and the internet were at at that point in time! My monitor here just died and I am typing on the same monitor I would have used to read Ride the Bullet, and it HURTS! I mean, it is just an uncomfortable way to read a book, and even with the best monitor available today it is still less comfortable to the average person than is reading a book. The reader software people were forced to use was just terrible and clumsy. On that front that line of software has really made no progress between then and today. Unfortunately, Ride the Bullet was a novel idea but a less exciting book. He certainly didn't attempt to publish The Stand, It, Desperado, or Carrie in that format. And I am not even sure that they would have been successful had he published those great books in that format. This is without even touching on the fact that when people buy a book, they want to own a book. They want to place it on a bookshelf when they are finished. Most people aren't buying Stephen King used (college textbooks, yeah, maybe, but Stephen King, no). They want their own new copy. If the book really were good, it would have taken a lot of pirates to diminish profits on a book whose overhead was essentially 0.

        You are wrong, and your comparison is flawed.. And I think that on the honor system, the band will turn a profit. King wasn't on the honor system, by the way.
        • hardcorenerd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I enjoyed Riding the Bullet. Yes it was free in the first week and then you had to purchase it, but maybe you have that e-book mixed up with the serial novel The Plant. King put the Plant out in parts and asked readers to pay him a dollar if they downloaded it. At first people did pay, but the amount of paying readers diminished later on, so King stopped writing. This example is even more like the Radiohead situation, as you can get the work without paying for it if you desire. Also, Riding the Bullet can also be found in the short story compilation Everything's Eventual, so you can get your hardcopy.
          • dragonlor20, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's hard to say since the original post didn't specify the book. You may be right, maybe he wasn't talking about Riding the Bullet, but the point stands that the experience between reading a book on your computer and listening to music piped through a nice set of computer speakers or burned to cd to be used elsewhere is vastly different. No one is out there printing out hundreds of pages of e-book, and that has more of an effect on the success or failure of an ebook than does piracy. The thought of reading a book on my computer makes me cringe...
    • sleepwalkers, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I love the idea of this, and I know they probably don't really need any of the money they'll get from this...
      But I can't help but think there will be a lot of people who - even if they're fans - won't pay more than $1 for the album, or will just go torrent it and justify it to themselves. I mean, I really want to support the artists and I cannot stand having to fork most of my money over to retail and the RIAA... But I'm having a hard time entering what should be the "proper" amount in that "Price:" column.
      However, that could just be me having a hard time coming up with "what I think it's worth" when I haven't heard it yet.
    • lothar250, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3This is the first time in 10 years that I actually pay for my music. This is the right way to go!
    • postalblowfish7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2but if you can pay nothing for music from the best band in the world and pay nothing, what about us struggling indie rockers on small labels who are lucky to get people to shell out $10 for a CD at a show. are we all screwed?
  • optoomistic, on 10/10/2007, -48/+22DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    BEST

    BAND


    EVER.
  • Protoss, on 11/10/2007, -1/+269Pre-ordered mine for 15 bucks. They deserve it, I don't care if you can order it for completely free, they're really sticking their heads out with this.
    • ajchavar, on 10/10/2007, -14/+18i ordered it for free, just now. i sincerely DO plan on going back and either buying it in-store or re-downloading it if its worth the price. . .

      i'll probably buy it in store, i love collecting album art and radiohead's is always good.
      • tonicboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14i'm with you. i'll download it for free and if i like it, i'll pay for the cd what it's worth.
      • posure, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I don't know if it'll be in a store, I've been heard on the radio a few times that they've been looking for a publisher for a while and never found anyone.
      • dsignr, on 10/19/2007, -1/+11Wow, this is essentially the same comment that kevinrose just put--"I didn't pay a cent but if I like it, I'll give them money." Yet ajchavar gets dug down, while kevin gets 300+ diggs.

        There are waaaaaaaayy too many fanboys on this site.
    • AssProphet, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29Since the store is in £s I assume you remembered to convert £ to $.
    • Kazanoe, on 10/14/2007, -1/+86I love how when things cost money, people steal them, but when things are free, people pay for them.
      Of course, this really just means that we're stealing costly crap and paying for free gold.
    • sevenhelmets, on 10/14/2007, -0/+44I'm waiting to see the next Digg article "Guy pays $(insert insanely high dollar amount here) for free Radiohead album"....because you know someone will do it
      • mywhitenoise, on 10/14/2007, -1/+12Well I'll be paying $81 for it, haha.
        • DubbedOver, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3$81 dollars is £40.00 which is what the DiscoBox costs. The DiscoBox includes a lot of stuff, not just their latest album.

          That's for anyone who tried to navigate the site and it was screwy because of firefox & extensions and wants to know why he paid $81.
        • DubbedOver, on 10/10/2007, -9/+1Bury
  • yoyodyne, on 10/10/2007, -1/+36I'm so very very happy that they went about it the right way: no label, pay whatever you want for the music download, make the value in owning the physical object.

    Now just change the rest of the music industry to this...
    • sm4k, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'd really like to see a comparison, when this is all said and done, of how much the average person paid vs how much Radiohead made per unit off an average album back when they were behind a label.

      I'm sure each of us paying less than $10 are still putting more money in Radiohead's pocket overall, I'd just like to know how much.
      • mahdaeng, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Exactly! By cutting out the middle man (or men), this is a win-win situation (except for the middle man, of course).
  • optoomistic, on 10/10/2007, -2/+100tracklist

    15 STEP
    BODYSNATCHERS
    NUDE
    WEIRD FISHES/ARPEGGI
    ALL I NEED
    FAUST ARP
    RECKONER
    HOUSE OF CARDS
    JIGSAW FALLING INTO PLACE
    VIDEOTAPE
    • Bloc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17FYI JIGSAW FALLING INTO PLACE was previously known as Open Pick.
      • esbern1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3i cant believe reckoner is on here.
        • luet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1the album version might be good
        • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2"might be"?
          • luet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1yup, most versions I've heard of reckoner aren't very well performed

            but it could be a good song if done right
    • tidu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1a few of these were played live and are on music blogs around the net if you want to preview them. videotape's quite a song as well.
      • mywhitenoise, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2A few? All of them (except for Faust Arp, unless it's a renamed song) have been played live, some as far as back as 1996.
    • perryjoyce, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I saw them play a good chunk of these at the Greek Theater a year or so ago. It was the only time I've ever been completely captivated by a band's new material, and the only time I didn't see 90% of the audience run to the bathroom when a singer said, "Now we'd like to play something new for you!"
      • mywhitenoise, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I went to both shows, the second night was one of the best shows I've ever seen. Daft Punk last July was probably a better performance, just buy a tad.
        • chinolofus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3how much does this "tad" you speak of cost?
    • Lumiras, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I've listened to my bootlegged version of Reckoner for about 4 years now, I simply cannot ***** wait to hear what it sounds like all nice and produced

      Applause to Radiohead for doing something so very awesome. They got my $10, which is what I pay for CDs normally
    • andregriffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Where the ***** is "Down is the New Up"? I love that song. I hope they just changed the name or something...
      • ckamel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4The discbox set has a second disc with more new songs including, among others, Down is the New Up.
        • mywhitenoise, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Seriously, Down Is The New Up is best of the new songs. I think I might have to shell out the $81 for this album if there's no other alternative. Holy *****, 10 more days!
    • hellathatguy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1all i need, reckoner, videotape, down is the new up....goddam this is gonna be good. my life will be changed.
  • Ellord, on 10/10/2007, -2/+79Love Radiohead. This is the way it should be.
  • luet, on 10/10/2007, -12/+6I set the price for my download as 0 pounds... but I'm going to buy the discset when it comes out. Maybe not the discbox with the vinyls and whatnot since it's 40 pounds, but definitely the cds. You only get one of the cds in this download, anyways.
    • fiveoaks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4There's a good chance this will be a download/order only album permanently. I think that's the whole point.
      • luet, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2but I don't have a credit card since I'm a teenager... I won't be able to get the second cd otherwise
        • pinkcherry, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Then ask your mommy or daddy to buy it for you...
          • luet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I live by myself. Thanks for reminding me.
  • kevinrose, on 11/11/2007, -21/+519I really wish I could preview the album (even streaming) before deciding how much to spend. So, I just bought the 'download' version for $0.00. If it's good, I'll go back and buy it again for $15. If it's just OK, I'll go back and give them $5. I really like this idea..
    • fusiachi, on 11/11/2007, -46/+3It's terrific. Down is the new up, huh?
    • fusiachi, on 11/11/2007, -53/+0It's terrific. Down is the new up, huh?
    • AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -52/+7Whole heartedly agree with that idea, KRose.
      • quiksliver, on 11/11/2007, -6/+95stop sucking up to him, he will never be your best friend

        ps: i love you kevin rose, hugs and kisses!
        • L4WL3RS34L, on 11/11/2007, -1/+6Leave him alone, I'm his best friend!

          (I know I'll always be your bestest friend ever kevin!)
    • brightscreamer, on 11/11/2007, -15/+153So why not start off with $5?
      • nreynolds, on 11/11/2007, -36/+9How DARE you correct Lord Kevin!??!!?
        • Kazanoe, on 11/11/2007, -2/+26It's a user driven website.
          He's practically our slave.
          Please don't ban me :(
      • monsterenergy, on 11/11/2007, -10/+41In case it sucks?
      • kevinrose, on 11/12/2007, -16/+100because if it sucks then I'll just delete it and pay nothing.
        • luet, on 11/11/2007, -5/+41You know, you could just find a youtube video of a live version before you buy to see if you like it. And isn't it common fact that everything Radiohead does is of the gods?
        • FuriousGopher, on 11/11/2007, -17/+3lol, Kevin, Radiohead does NOT suck. Ok Computer was brilliant back in 1997 - It revolutionized music of the nineties.
          And now, this will only be better
        • CatalystDM, on 11/11/2007, -3/+16Bollocks, Radiohead would never release an album that sucks.
    • coleyslaw, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17of course it's going to be awesome!
    • alexforcefive, on 10/10/2007, -9/+24That's such a hassle, though. You'd think with their modern take on the distribution model, they'd have an equally modern take on how the internet works. Even one sample of one track would be enough. And what's with that website? Urghghghgh etc.
      • aloomba, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7I agree, the website is not exactly information-rich or user-friendly.
        • Scarfy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7This is how all of Radiohead's past sites have been.
          I guess you would say it's their style.
      • luet, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17You dumbass, don't comment on radiohead's site structure if you haven't seen their past websites. For one thing, this is a new website they put up just today for In Rainbows. And for another thing, their sites have always been designed to be enigmatic and parody internet sites in the early 90's.
        • alexforcefive, on 10/25/2007, -5/+3Why would I give a ***** about their previous websites? "Oh, this site is a piece of *****! It's ok though, it's their STYLE." ***** off, you pretentious git.
          • alexs5, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I don't want to sound pretentious myself, but i'd like to think they've done it for a reason. I'm sure they've got some cash still lying around from the Bends and could probably afford a designer to stick in some shiny Web 2.0 buttons, but is that necessary? is it right to spend money on that? isn't the music enough? is one man's ***** website another man's utopic design? is it a revolt against the music industry being so image driven?, etc.. I think they probably just wanted people to think about that stuff and then even think about whether that was the intetntion or not. Just get people thinking I guess. I Might Be Wrong though...
      • CatalystDM, on 10/14/2007, -5/+4Oh yeah, such a hassle to have to go to a website to download an album, even if going to that website means the artist gets 100% of all album revenue. Go back to iTunes, you wanker, you don't deserve Radiohead.
    • yfguitarist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8The downside of the download version is you only get Disc 1 of the 2 discs. I will be getting both discs.
      • iheartjebus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I will too, I'll just be getting the second disc via soulseek, and taking that into account when I pay for the one disc on their website. 8)
    • tidu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Hype Machine has a few of them, since they've been played live. that's a pretty good preview.
    • w3bsmith, on 10/10/2007, -11/+3Kevin, that's exactly what I'm planning on doing; minus the buying 3 times thing. I want to hear it first, then it may be more valuable to me than a normal cd. If it's really good I'm willing to upwards of $40-50 USD. How much do we pay for games on a console? Good music should hold a relative value to that if not more. But I won't pay for crap.
      • TeHCrAzY, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Buying 3 times? where did you get that idea from?
    • onefix, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7This looks like it's a good start on a new business model for bands. However, I think a slight modification would work better for the band. What about having an accelerated discount release schedule so that the higher paying users can get the album a few days ahead of the people that pick $0.00?

      This only works for the pre-release, but I'm thinking this is a way to encourage the fans to pay a slightly higher price. Because, lets face it if everyone chooses $0.00 they will probably not be making many more albums.

      Pick a number of days equivalent to a dollar amount (say 7 days) and for every dollar up to $7, the day your activation code works gets moved up another day,

      It discourages "illegal downloads", since the people who aren't willing to pay for the album will probably not be too concerned about waiting a few more days before their code works and it gives the fans an extra "thank you" for paying a little bit more.
    • CatalystDM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12How many Radiohead albums have you heard that are just okay?
      • shannobn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+81: Pablo Honey
        • CatalystDM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'll give you that, but of course you know as well as I that every album since then has been stellar.
        • thelatemail, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Pablo Honey was awesome - Creep, Prove Yourself, Vegetable, Thinking About You - all very handy tracks. Okay, they are pretty straight forward rock tunes compared to later releases, but they are bloody good ones.
        • nightswimmer16, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I couldn't agree more. Pablo Honey is amazing for a freshman effort.
    • adooga, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Or you could just say "***** it - with all the music I've got for free, whatever I pay I'm still WAY ahead".
      Cheap bastard.
    • DownloadThis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+61. It's Radiohead, there's no doubt this album will nothing less than awesome.
      2. If you check out any of their fan sites multimedia forum, you can find live versions of most of the songs on the album. Last year, they did a small tour road testing these songs so many fans have put together live compilations featuring them all (including "LIVE LP7" comps with assumed tracklistings for this album... They were all right in predicting Videotap for an album closer).

      Something like this may not be true with most other bands. Radiohead in general have a very active taping/trading community so many of us heard these songs already live already.
    • DownloadThis, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1double post.. >_
    • redboy, on 10/14/2007, -1/+4c'mon kev, ton principle alone couldn't t you at least support by throwing them $10 or somethin?
      • redboy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1DOH! don't you just love it when you're fixing your typos and work distracts ya? razzen.frazzen. anyways, you know what i was trying to say :)
    • timusca, on 10/18/2007, -3/+15A millionaire trying to decide if an album is worth $5 is priceless...
      • mastertop, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Exactly what I thought... Kevin Rose seems so... cheap now...
    • L4WL3RS34L, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Don't get me wrong, it's a good idea...but the majority of the people aren't going to actually pay anything. Most people's thought process is "if it's free, why pay?"
    • bcclist, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1preview the tracks here: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/16654550/ra ...
  • theblueprint, on 10/14/2007, -0/+123If it's DRM free, I'll throw them $10 on general principle. I'm at best a casual Radiohead fan, but I'd like to support this business model.
    • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It'll be DRM free, trust me. Radiohead putting DRM on their tracks would be like Bill O`Reilly ***** an ultra-liberal dude named Russel. ...sorry for the image, you get the point.
      • adooga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Bill would totally do that, Radiohead would never use DRM.
    • cthulhukb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Why would they have you name your own price and then turn around and smack DRM on the music?
  • AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -4/+147Holy crap.. what is up with the LSD trip in the background.

    It's freaking brilliant.
    • OutThisLife, on 10/10/2007, -11/+5I didn't want to ctrl+w out of it I was so addicted.
    • aflaks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2they were on acid when they came up with the idea
    • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Radiohead has had one of the strangest sites on the internet for years. I think they like confusing people.
  • reed311, on 10/10/2007, -61/+9Hmm, after the last few albums they'll have to pay ME to take it.
    • Sanooj, on 10/10/2007, -4/+27no.
    • djsputnik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22tell you what reed311. . . you buy me a copy of radiohead's album, and i'll buy you brittany's new album when it comes out.
      • seventoes, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE
      • nightswimmer16, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0djsputnik's I just spit milk out my nose! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    • ferrell, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10YOU FAIL
    • TripcodeMel, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4I would be very interested to find out what happens if you enter a negative value.
    • Scarfy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5reed311, I suggest you leave this place.
    • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6As a huge Radiohead fan, I have to admit that the last one (Hail To The Thief) was not their strongest, but all signs point to this one being the best since Kid A. Or OK Computer if you didn't like Kid A because you have no taste.
      • luet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2i'm adding you as a friend simply for that last sentence
  • catalysis, on 10/10/2007, -8/+34If you really want to support them, order the discbox
    • kavika411, on 10/10/2007, -20/+1Why do you want to support them? What I mean is - even if you like the music, do you think that Radiohead won't last unless someone, like you, "supports" them?
      • WhereAmI, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17"o you think that Radiohead won't last unless someone, like you,"
        you=fans?
        no fans?
        no band.
        • kavika411, on 10/10/2007, -10/+2Radiohead "needs" support like Foxnews "needs" conservatives. Stop drinking the Radiohead Koolaid and just wait, like someone who ... thinks, to see if the new album is good. As for the method of selling it - Jesus, a hasbeen band called Bare Naked Ladies did this y-e-a-r-s ago. Radiohead ain't f'ing innovators, at least where "the internets" are concerned.
        • tyzent, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0BNL are not has-beens. they have been around for a while, but they keep coming out with new and creative albums. their newest album is actually one of their best
    • navitatl, on 10/13/2007, -3/+11I think they'll profit more from direct downloads.
    • BonerMachine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I would really like to just to have the LP, but it's over 80 dollars unfortunately. I'd be surprised if anyone but die-hard collectors go that route.
      • PulpAffliction, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I bought it, but it took some serious thinking. Radiohead is my favorite band in the world, bar none; however, $80 is a lot for a single album.

        Nonetheless, I applaud Thom and Co. for this brilliant business model.
      • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It will probably be released individually at some point. Just my opinion, but there's probably a good reason they're not selling the physical album individually now.
        • edjenkins234, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah Ill pay for the download and buy the vinyl by itself whenever that comes out
      • jj9000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I bought it, it said it came with extra material, like artwork and pictures, and unreleased songs. I was gonna buy the album hard-copy, and this way I get that PLUS extra ***** PLUS supporting the band. If any band deserves it, it's Radiohead.
      • jj9000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Double post somehow, I'm an idiot.
    • jferraro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I got the box. It looks awesome. This is the way it aught to be. This goes hand in hand with the article last week about Mark Twain. Give the content away for free but protect it from pirates by adding value. The vinyl and books in the box make the purchase so worth it to a fan.
    • nightswimmer16, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I bought the box. I have no doubt that it will be a collectors item someday. I just want it all!
  • timjbart, on 10/10/2007, -17/+5This has got to be fake...this can't be true!?
    • Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -1/+43We're not scaremongering, this is really happening.
    • Books, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Microsoft is selling Office Ultimate for $60 as well, so this must be true. Companies are finally picking up on this ol' 'piracy' thing eh.
    • fitzfan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yea its probably photoshoped...
  • GussyPoo, on 10/10/2007, -49/+1wow radio head is amazing yes.

    And i give them MAD props

    But really do you think they would have pulled something like this off? just because?


    no ofcourse not
    its called publicity stunt

    they have been out of the picture for a while and have no record label.

    what do you do?
    this.

    Dont get me wrong radiohead is one of my all time favorite bands

    and im extremely happy their doing this

    but im justsaying
    • timjim31, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25is this some type of obscure poem format? or does your enter button press itself whenever it wants?
    • Thumper13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7WOW do you not GET Radiohead.
    • Dcherub, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8hehe i really dont think radiohead need a publicity stunt to get attention for their new album...

      silly
    • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Their old record label would kill your mom to get them back. You say it like no label will pick them up.

      They've been saying they were considering releasing albums over the internet for many years.
    • Cenobite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Even if it was a publicity stunt, why would a publicity stunt that results in us getting the album for as much (or as little) as we want be a bad thing?
    • thecity, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Gussy, let me spell out what you are missing:
      1. If they wanted a publicity stunt they would get a record lable to run a PR/promotion campaign.
      2. They have not sold their album to a record label, which they could do for millions, and are instead releasing it themselves.
      3. This is because they are financial secure as a band and don't want to work as slaves to a record label that pisses of their fans.
      4. They are basically doing exactly what Tren Reznor is saying he wants to do, but NIN is under contract with a label still.
  • lik3n, on 10/10/2007, -6/+36OH GOD DOES WANT!
  • Homest4r, on 10/10/2007, -4/+45Radiohead are simply the best. On top of downloading it I'll also be getting the discbox to support one of the greatest bands of all time.
    • Genthree, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Did you see the price of the discbox? £40! I support that business model, but £40 is a bit steep.
      • Impeller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Few artist deserve getting paid for listening to their music... Radiohead is on top of that list...
    • Teej, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The download is included with the discbox.
  • Smegzor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Paying what you like is great!

    I know two sites that do this successfully already.. www.jamendo.com and www.magnatune.com
    Another great source of free music.. www.ccmixter.org This site allows you to mix your own music - Frikken awesome!
  • theradical, on 10/10/2007, -6/+70This is an excellent idea, but would not work with many bands. With Radiohead we are basing our purchase on brand recognition. Some people are going to pay them 10$ or 15$ simply because they know what, within reason, they will be getting, sight unseen. With newer bands especially this is an impossible business model.
    • marioluigi123, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Well, I could see this sort of model combined with streaming tracks (or samples) working for pretty much any artist. If you could listen to two or three songs or maybe like 1:30 of each song (that's probably a lot better idea to ensure there aren't any ridiculous filler tracks), it could work. And I could also see this as not just being an album thing, but also for individual tracks.

      Regardless, I hope this works out for them.
    • modusop, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7The 30 second rule isn't an iTunes thing, it's the amount of music allowed to be freely distributed under copyright law. FYI
      • hierophantus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Do you mean under copyright law or under blanket licenses to the online distributors?
        • RobBaird, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's under copyright law. Its before you have to give them any money for use of the song
    • ninetimes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Well it doesn't really have to be sight-unseen. If you're willing to sell it for $0, then you can let someone download it for free and ask for a donation if you like it.

      I'm sure that some people, if they liked the music enough, would return to the site to make a paypal donation. Even if it doesn't happen at first, it'd be a good way for a newer band to become well-known.

      Believe it or not, there are a lot of people who are capable of understanding "I should pay money for the things that I want so they'll continue to be produced." Whether there are enough to support this "impossible business model", I don't know. It might be worth a shot.
    • eatbeefjerky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I would really like to be able to sample the songs - I 100% believe in paying what things are worth, and while I've never actually listened to Radiohead, I'm seriously considering buying their album, regardless of how much I like it or don't like it, just because they did this.
      • nightswimmer16, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0eatbeefjerky go to youtube.com and type in radiohead. You can find a huge sampling of their work including some of the songs on this new album done live. You may need to trust me (and many others) on this buddy, but you have been missing out which is tragic. You will NEVER regret owning Radiohead music. They are IMO the best band making music right now.
    • rv36116, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6It's the free market at work, and yes, it actually does work.

      They'll get stiffed off some of the downloads, but they will recoup that in what they make from the people who download their songs and pay for it and then those who pay for the disc.

      Free market = Radiohead doing their homework, maybe Ron Paul had a conversation with them.
    • moush, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0even if they get no money from the sale, they might get better turn out at performances, that's where alot of money is
  • Anub1s, on 10/10/2007, -35/+9Whoever made this website needs to be shot.
    • Bloc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+36You've clearly never been on a Radiohead site before...
      • Anub1s, on 10/10/2007, -23/+0You would be correct sir. Hate their music, absolutely abhor it, so I guess I wouldn't have any reason to visit it.

        Still a pile of ***** though.
        • Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22So...why comment on a Radiohead article?
        • Anub1s, on 10/10/2007, -12/+3Why not? Who says I can't have an opinion on something I care nothing about? Last I checked, there's no rules against speaking freely. Also, I'm bored.
        • monsterenergy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Great excuse. "I'm bored."
        • Anub1s, on 10/10/2007, -7/+3I think it's a valid excuse. Why else would I be on here? The only reason I even come to this site is because I'm bored at work. What's your excuse?
        • luet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I guarantee the last radiohead song you heard was "creep"
        • filefly, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Okay, you folks need to break it up... *gets out taser*
        • dan0964, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Don't Taze Me, Bro !
        • Impeller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Dugg down for lame out of place comment and dumbass nickname....
    • jongos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It's called minimalism and Radiohead are big fans of it. You should be shot for not recognizing a popular counter-trend to all the fancy (Ajax, Java, Flash) stuff going on the web these days.
  • robbiemuffin, on 10/10/2007, -16/+9major problem with this is that I have no idea what this site is ... outside of a nice, handmade website. Is this Radiohead? Is this somebody's idea of a cool proof of concept?
    • Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Go to Radiohead.com, takes you to the shop.
    • anthonyretro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Or their blog which links to the shop as well. Or Pitchfork which reported on it.
    • adrianmonk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5'Twould be nice if diggers wouldn't digg robbiemuffin down for a legitimate question. Turns out there's a good answer to his question that totally addresses his concern, but why digg down just because he asked? Or is it simply bad to ask questions?
      • CatalystDM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It's useless to ask questions when you clearly have not put forth the minimal amount of research required to answer your own question. His question simply reflects laziness.
        • robbiemuffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1@cat: yeah, I guess it does. But I think a real reason is because I used the words "major problem"

          @adrian: jaja thank you! I wasn't going to say anything, I don't really care. Just a few posts below someone writes up a great post that answers several typical questions, like mine.

          ( So there, Cat, maybe my lazy post does serve a utility! :P )
  • quiksliver, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6does anyone know if they will accept paypal????
    • Samn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4You should get the PayPal debit card. It is free, completely free. Entirely free, no joke. They send it to you pretty quickly and it draws directly from your PayPal account. Technically it's a Mastercard, so it's accepted wherever MC is.
      • rarson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4***** Paypal.
      • tendonut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Or just open a damn checking account and get a debit card like the rest of the civilized world..plenty of banks offer free or nearly free checking accounts. I myself have two through Citizens Bank
  • yfguitarist, on 10/14/2007, -0/+76Love the link at the payment screen that takes you to: "It's up to you." Then the next click: "No really, it's up to you."
  • cambrown99, on 10/10/2007, -17/+8What if this isn't actually Radiohead's website?
    • timjbart, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10It's linked on their official blog
    • Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Check the official Radiohead site, or their Dead Air Space blog, both link to the site.
    • adooga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Those of us who've spent time on their site over the years can just tell.
  • justin9, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22That's amazing! I respect them so much for doing this. I really don't want to pay because I don't have much spare cash, but I am going to for sure. That'll show the RIAA lol
    • sintaxi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2even giving them $2 is still more than what they made with a label Im sure
  • shadowblade989, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19So for everyone who's buying it, what did you pay?
    • Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11$15. Turned out to be 7.77 pounds, which was sort of cool.
    • mittortz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19Discbox FTW!
      ~ $81.76
    • Lumiras, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I went with $10. With the debit card charge it turned out to be like $11, which is the normal price I pay for CDs. If I can't get it cheaper, I'll usually just download it some other way. But, because Radiohead are being so awesome, I will gladly give them my cash
    • gavin422, on 10/10/2007, -1/+92 pounds. I know, it's not a lot, but I'm (i) a starving college student who (ii) torrents all of his music anyway and (iii) that's fairly close to how much the artist makes off a hard-copy CD sale anyway.
    • presidentjapan, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7I put in $1.
      To be fair, there has only been one Radiohead song I've ever liked, 'Talk Show Host' (on the remake of Romeo and Juliet). If this proves to be a good album, then I'll support them more later on.

      I just love to be a part of this new system. :) F-ck the RIAA, support your artists directly (coming from a musician, as well), yarr.
      • acidwarp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Talk Show Host is a good tune. How I Made My Millions is worth listening to as well. Give it a spin.
    • phaseblue, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I'm a huge Radiohead fan and I also really want to put in my vote for this being an awesome business model. So I'm doing $20, since it's twice what I normally pay for DRM junk from iTunes.
    • admeyer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4i paid $2.94.
    • ultraelite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I paid 5 pounds which is a little more than $10
    • danielman94, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I paid about 4.90 pounds, which is about 10 bucks. I was really torn between the disc set and the digital download! I want the extra content, but I don't have any use for vinyl, and $80 is a whole lot of money for one cd! I decided to get the digital, so yeah.
    • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Nothing, but I guarantee I'll be buying it in another form in the near future. I don't want to pay for it twice. I'm seriously poor at the moment, anyway.
    • adooga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Why are people who didn't pay much getting dug down? If you pay something, that's a good start. Don't be disheartened.
    • Cenobite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3$15 because I love all the band's material and because I hope it'll make up for me having pirated Hail To The Thief. Also, the Discbox is listed in my letter to Santa.
    • ReRunx5, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I paid $6 then going to buy it on cd when it comes out in stores.
    • RIAAagent, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7$13.37!!!!
    • mahdaeng, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3I am a capitalist. I'm paying nothing to download the music. If I like the product, I will pay for it appropriately - if not, I will delete the files from my hard drive.
    • adeepercut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+212 bucks-ish, 6 pounds. And I'll probably end up tossing the 80 bucks at em for the boxset.
    • nightswimmer16, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I bought the discbox for $81 and it is worth every penny. I can't wait!
    • acroyear2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1$8 ish. I'm only a moderate fan. i'll pay $81 for the new NIN.
    • tendonut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0$6. Not the biggest Radiohead fan, but *****, I will support this business model
  • apolloae, on 10/10/2007, -0/+40This is absolutely brilliant. Not only does it show the ridiculousness of record labels, etc. it also shows logical thinking; if you don't have to make the actual CD and you're just doing what you love doing, you should only charge what people are willing to pay.

    ***** brilliant.
    • HHP2K, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You're absolutely right, and I never thought of that before. Part of that fee that you pay for goes into making the CD, printing the album art, and casing the whole thing, and shipping the copies to stores who undoubtedly get a piece of the pie for selling it. So if it's just downloaded, there's no doubt this business model is the best way to go.
  • EserVerx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I think I may torrent their discography and pay for it through this :)
    A great addition this band and many other bands could do toward a fan friendly stance would be making their music available for download or allowing it to be downloaded then encouraging people to donate if they enjoy it. I would defiantly go for this.
    • adooga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5That is KINDA what they're doing. I mean you CAN download it and pay later if you want, but with Radiohead you should know it's worth a couple of your earth dollars at least.
    • mahdaeng, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1No need to be defiant.

      :^)
  • sherbertbones, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19This is gonna get Dugg up the upper echelons faster than reading a list of reasons why Ed O'Brien should be in the band.
    • Scarfy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No one can play a can of beans like that man.
    • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Reason 1: only member who looks hot at first glance.
  • HHP2K, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5All I'm seeing is the LSD trip background.. where's the website?
    • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It's doing some weird stuff, probably from getting hit really hard. Try refreshing a few times.
  • blakesinclair, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Jonah Matranga has been doing this for years. Its worked for him. check it, not spam
    • KillTheRhythm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Kudos for the Jonah mention.
    • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7If every spam message ended with "not spam", we'd be screwed!
    • OAKsider, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Who the ***** is Jonah? (rhetorical)
  • jackpot, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I hate security codes
    • DPowers08, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah the images aren't loading for me so I can't complete my order.
      • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I had the same problem, it worked the third or fourth try.
    • sk8oride, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0same here. just says "Blank" instead of a security code
    • moojj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I had the same problem, just keep trying. It worked after a while for me.
  • Bloc, on 10/10/2007, -3/+93Album Name: In Rainbows
    Available In: Download or Discbox
    Release Date: Download: October 10 Discbox: December 3
    Prices: Download: Whatever you want it to be Discbox: £40 (roughly $80)
    Tracklisting:
    CD 1: (digital download and discbox)

    15 STEP
    BODYSNATCHERS
    NUDE
    WEIRD FISHES/ARPEGGI
    ALL I NEED
    FAUST ARP
    RECKONER
    HOUSE OF CARDS
    JIGSAW FALLING INTO PLACE
    VIDEOTAPE

    CD 2: (discbox only)

    MK 1
    DOWN IS THE NEW UP
    GO SLOWLY
    MK 2
    LAST FLOWERS
    UP ON THE LADDER
    BANGERS AND MASH
    4 MINUTE WARNING

    Questions:

    1. Is this legit?
    The site has been posted on DAS, official W.A.S.T.E. servers are being used, and the official W.A.S.T.E. e-mail address is being used to send out confirmation e-mails. All signs point to this definitely being legit.

    2. What is...

    Faust Arp? No idea. It's all speculation at this point.

    Jigsaw Falling into Place? Open Pick. The name is taken from one of the lines of the song.

    MK 1 + 2? No idea. They're assumed to be short instrumental interludes, but again, it's all speculation at this point.

    3. What is contained within the discbox?

    (Taken from inrainbows.com)

    THIS CONSISTS OF THE NEW ALBUM, IN RAINBOWS, ON CD
    AND ON 2 X 12 INCH HEAVYWEIGHT VINYL RECORDS.
    A SECOND, ENHANCED CD CONTAINS MORE NEW SONGS, ALONG WITH DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHS AND ARTWORK.
    THE DISCBOX ALSO INCLUDES ARTWORK AND LYRIC BOOKLETS.
    ALL ARE ENCASED IN A HARDBACK BOOK AND SLIPCASE.

    THE ALBUM DOWNLOAD AUTOMATICALLY COMES WITH THIS PACK.

    Basically, you get a lot of cool ***** and the album download when it releases on October 10.

    4. Help! It's not letting me place any of the items in the basket!

    That's not a question, but clear your browser's cookies and try ordering them again.

    5. Does this mean Radiohead has a record label now?

    It's unknown at the moment.

    6. Will this be sold in stores?

    It's unknown at the moment.

    7. Is there any way to buy the discbox without certain elements (i.e. vinyl, hardcover book, etc.) in order to reduce the cost?

    It's unknown at the moment.

    8. Up on the Ladder? Where the hell did that come from?

    Shut up.

    9. Is this ***** awesome?

    Yes, it is ***** awesome.
    • chrisbarr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I love it, and the second CD of music alone makes me want to pay more to get that, but $80!! That's a lot and for all the box contains it seems like it's worth it, but I just would have no use for Vinyl at all, I mean I love it, but I don't have a record player and I would never use it. They need to offer a second box that just the 2 CD's.
    • shabumike, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13This needs to be repeated - 9. Is this ***** awesome?

      Yes, it is ***** awesome.
    • esbern1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2up on the ladder. that song was played 3 times or so in the 2002 tour and then they dropped it out. then it shows up 5 years later. ***** yeah.
  • marcomc2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+91I Love Radiohead.
    I Love This Purchasing Method.
    I Want To Shake Their Hands.
    • amercer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9That was a very "Radiohead" comment.
      • Scarfy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3When did Radiohead become an adjective?
        • EbilPhish, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7On the internet, everything is an adjective.
        • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Ebil, that was a very "everything" comment.
  • timjim31, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2i wonder if the radioheadlp7.com countdown has anything to do with this..
    • Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10AFAIK that was a huge hoax. The largest Rick Roll in history.
  • mjsteinbaugh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+24Discbox is $80 and includes the album on CD and vinyl. I love Radiohead and all but $80 for the vinyl edition??
    • iheartjebus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3yeah, I'd much prefer to pay 20 bucks and just get the vinyl version + digital copies. ***** the actual cd and all that other crap.
    • Chordinator, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3Is everyone crazy? 40 Euro comes out to approximately $57 USD. I triple checked that on several sites and it is up to date as of today.

      I gave them 7 Euro for the download which is $10 USD.
      • kevin_qnn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9its pounds not euros so you payed more like $14 USD
      • Chordinator, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Ah good, then no one is crazy, I'm just an idiot.
        I do not regret paying 14 for the album either btw.
      • terminal157, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4What's 4 dollars between friends?
      • LostRiot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1oh, this did make me chuckle.
    • MrFisty, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I've got $20 that says you'll see it on standard double CD in shops before Xmas.
    • katherynne, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's true -- what if I just want the vinyl?
    • LeifOines, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0even so 57 bucks is steep.. it almost seems to imply that they expect the dls to bring in much less than a normal cd release would. hopefully they will hold of a bit on a mainstream release so finally we can see if these types of ideas can actually work. I can see a lot of people paying 5-8 bucks to support the band or just for the sake of the name... then again digg isn't a good rep. sample of all music listeners, so theres a chance that most people just wont bother (if its ***** i doubt if i will).
    • vckeating, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Hey, with the way the American dollar has been plummeting recently, you're lucky it's not over $100.
    • Stwo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That USD80 gets you 2 cds 2 vynil records, and a hard cover book featuring the wonderful artowrk of Stanley Donwood. If you have ever purchased a limited edition Radfiohead CD before, you would know that this is WELL worth it. By the way... the hardcover book is also a sleeve for all of the records and CDs
  • esbern1, on 10/17/2007, -1/+20HOLY ***** RECKONER!!!
    • polyphonic, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3duggduggduggduggdugg
    • Lumiras, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I remember hearing Reckoner for the first time when they were doing their Amnesiac tour, and it's been one of my favorite Radiohead songs ever since....awesome that it'll get a studio version
      • esbern1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i remember phil saying that he didn't like it, and then thom randomly played it last year at that acoustic gig.
    • postalblowfish7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i felt the same way buddy
  • sparf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3i'm interested, but in my setup, all I see is the trippy background. =/
    • HHP2K, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Same here.. might have to do with the site getting overloaded.
    • calinazaret, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What is your set up? I'm a Kubuntu/Fifefox user and it doesn't work for me either.
    • kleverness, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Try using Flashblock...
    • sparf, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I'm running FireFox with Adobe's Flash 9, on Slack. I dunno. I'll just try it on a Windows boxen.
    • Lumiras, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I tried it in Firefox and it didn't work very well, so I used IE (reluctantly, mind you) and it worked pretty well, although it was slow probably due to the fact that millions of fans just said "HOLY *****!!!! NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM!!!" so there's going to be a spike in traffic
    • Willeth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1All I'm getting is the four top boxes - not the fifth white one I was getting yesterday which actually allowed me to buy it. I didn't buy it yesterday because I didn't have my wallet to hand, and now I can't... does anyone know if this has ended, or if I'm just being a noob?
    • Willeth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's working fine now, for me at least. Firefox, XP SP2.
  • kavika411, on 10/10/2007, -33/+3[Yawning] Radiohead sells their music to the O.C. (Yes, the T ***** V show.) If you think Radiohead gives a ***** beyond what senior editors at Rolling Stone think, you might as well drink the last sip of Koolaid left from Hail to the Self-indulgent Thief.
    • schroeder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6If you wrote a song and some tv show wanted to give you thousands and thousands of dollars to play it for a few seconds would you honestly say no? The songs they write are far from what the mainstream is doing. They're not trying to fit the mold and a lot of people don't like the music they make. I would hardly call what they put out selling out, as you are implying. The are just making a living off of their music. It's like calling a talented carpenter a piece of ***** for building a multi-million dollar mansion. They're all just getting paid for something they love to do.
      • kavika411, on 10/10/2007, -11/+0I want to agree with you. As someone who owns every piece of music they've released, I very much want to agree with you. But the reality is - whether it is palatable or not - that they realized they realized they could never duplicate - in brilliance, production or hard work - OK Computer, and decided that becoming contrarians would, in the eyes of fanboys and critics, equal godliness. I used to Believe. Then I grew up.
        • luet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Kid A
        • ultraelite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Honestly OK computer is very good but definitely over rated, the fact that everyone thinks it's the only good music they've ever produced or the pinnacle of their career upsets me. IMO some of the songs (not the album as a whole) in kid A the bends and even Amnesiac are better than the songs (not the album as a whole) in OK computer. I think people need to stop expecting OK computer part 2 and realize that radiohead tried to sound different and does something new in almost every album.
  • Synthesize, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Seems like the site is getting hit pretty hard right now. I can't even successfully add the disc box so I can purchase it.

    Good for Radiohead. Let's see how this turns out. Everyone needs to give them at least $5 for the download. I will be more than happy to give them $15-20 for what they are doing.
    • andsoitgoes42, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I'm sorry - when did you become the "Karma Police" (sorry, couldn't help it...) - I applaud Radiohead for doing this and I'm going to donate as much as I can for the album, however everyone doesn't need to give them at least anything. If they did, they would have put it at $5. Everyone needs to give what they can and what they want, nothing more and nothing less.
  • mf0thrilla, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8For those who are seeking proof that this is the real deal.
    http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/
    J. Greenwood says it comes out in 10 days. Anyone in the UK know about getting the album sooner than the US?
  • t86y, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2Man I am gonna feel bad for not paying... though to be honest if I did love the CD I would rush out and buy it since there about having a physical CD.
  • chenley1, on 10/10/2007, -12/+0I would like to pay for it, but it seems kinda sketchy.
  • h3llscaper, on 10/10/2007, -36/+24I hate Radiohead.
    I hate Radiohead fanboys even more.
    I love alternative distribution however, so I will download this and give them 10 bucks so that hopefully more artists follow suit.
    • Thumper13, on 10/10/2007, -9/+16I hate you and don't want you do download the album. I'll double my amount so you don't have to.
      Go listen to third door down or 3 eyes blind or whatever the radio played for you this week.
      • iheartjebus, on 10/10/2007, -7/+13dude, a radiohead fan can't really harp on someone for listening to popular music...
        • hollowex, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3a radiohead fan can if the person listens to bubblegum.
        • asdfrewq, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yes, but like most popular alternate band fanboys (think tool, radiohead, pink floyd, etc,) they believe the only people who could possibly dislike such "musical genius" are those listening to mainstream radio.

          I had a friend who believed she was the most alternative/individual/freethinker/whatever-the-***** because she listened to radiohead. Nevermind that was ALL she listened to, her mind was open and anyone not listening to radiohead was a sheep in her eyes. And the delicious irony icing on the cake? I believe after a few years of friends trying to sample her less accessible alternative music, she went back to vanilla radio rock. :)

          Rants aside, I'm not a huge Radiohead fan but if this can encourage other progressive thinking bands to follow suit then I'm willing to participate 5bux to the experiment. The beauty of it is, as others have mentioned, if the album turns out to blow my mind I can always go back and buy it again.
          • luet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4The point is though, nobody should not be able to get an album like Kid A. It is a truly amazing work of art. I don't know anyone who's heard it and hasn't liked it.
          • rameniac, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0as much as i love radiohead, anyone who thinks they're the pinnacle of edginess just because they listen to them really needs to check out Scott Walker's last two records and watch this movie. radiohead are interviewed in this film, and even they pay homage. http://www.scottwalkerfilm.com
        • Scarfy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2What was the last Radiohead song you heard on the radio or saw on MTV?
          It's been a long time since Creep.
          While they have do have the huge fan base of a "popular" band, I still wouldn't call them that.
          They're very talented and put real effort into their music, and that sets them aside from the "Nickelback" style bands.
          • mywhitenoise, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The last video I saw of theirs on MTV? Go To Sleep, before that it was There There, then Knives Out, and Karma Police.
          • Thumper13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2They show videos on MTV! Who knew. Haven't watched it for ten years.
        • Rikm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"What was the last Radiohead song you heard on the radio or saw on MTV?
          It's been a long time since Creep." (Can't find a reply to Scarfy's comment link so putting it here)

          Funnily enough they're just played Creep on Radio 1 :p

          Great move Radiohead. I wish they were offering the discbox without the vinyl for slightly cheaper, I would have gone for that. Instead I'm putting down 7 of her majesty's royal pounds for the download version for now.
        • ultraelite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I have never heard (wasn't into music when creep was out) Radiohead being aggressively pushed although I will admit I have seen videos for Hail to the Thief (which I am not such a huge fan about) on mtv. just fyi
    • yfguitarist, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14Dugg for giving 10 bucks.
      Buried for hating Radiohead.
      Digg balance: 0
    • igetnospamatall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4i love the way you switched the names
  • triplesix, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21I almost bought the Disc Box until I realized it would cost me $81
    • mateo60, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5What you get with the disc box is pretty cool...... but the price is a little steep for me.
      • CoolJammer00, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2i agree. i mean, vinyl is cool and all, but...I want CDs. I dont even own a record player.
    • MoClippa, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The disc box comes with Vinyls, so I'd assume most people wouldn't want to buy it in the first place... it seems to only really be intended towards the die hard fans/collectors/audiophiles. The majority of people would probably want CD's or mp3s... and since CD's are generally outmodded, they seem to be skipping them, and just giving the majority of people straight mp3s instead.... hopefully its all high quality, it would also be nice if they offered it in various formats and recording qualities.
  • rgon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Absolutely brilliant.
  • greekgoat91, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1site's getting hammered
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