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Parents Beware: What Kids Post on Social Networks Could Cost You Your Job

todaystmj4.com — Kids are learning that what they post on social networks could come back to haunt them. But now it's haunting their parents as well. What kids post about their parents on social networks (like, "Not only do I have to live with my nagging mom, my dad does drugs.") is being discovered by their employers, police, etc.

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  • aksn1p3r, on 10/25/2007, -21/+2The biggest idiot award goes to.... the guy who sells exam papers on facebook
    http://takilla786.blogspot.com/2007/10/media-vs-az ...
  • DeskFlyer, on 10/26/2007, -1/+32How would employers be able to verify the authenticity of any claim made by an employee's child on a blog, regardless of what it may be? Would they just take the kid's word for it and can their ass or something?
    • jmpeagle, on 10/26/2007, -1/+16firms face HUE information assymmetries when hiring employees and are generally very risk adverse so that they tend to err on the side of extreme caution.
    • masamunecyrus, on 10/26/2007, -0/+5Won't somebody please, please think of the children? -- That's how.
    • johndi, on 10/26/2007, -0/+18Unfortunately it doesn't matter if it is true or not if you are an at-will employee. They can fire you because they feel like it. Only eleven states have a "Covenant of good faith and fair dealing" exception (AL, AK, AZ, CA, DE, ID, MA, MT, NV, UT, and WY). Four states completely leave their citizens at the mercy of the corporations and federal courts ( Fl, Ga, La, and RI).

      http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2001/01/art1full.pdf
      • Cerebral, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4Yes sadly here in FL they can fire you for ALMOST any reason. The only way they can get in trouble is if you can PROVE particular malices in COURT. Age, Sex, Race, Sexual Preference and Disabilities cannot be reasons a person was fired however most companies know how to show that your production has decreased or just make your job hell until you quit. Verizon locally(maybe nationally I can't say) has been doing this for years with senior managers where they basically offer them a severance package that they can take or they will demote them while making their lives hell until they leave.
        I'm on the fence about all of this "employee rights" stuff because on one hand this is supposed to be America and a "free country" so if I own a business and I don't like someone REGARDLESS of the reason I should be able to get rid of them. On the other hand, being an employee it really does suck when you realize that you do have little to no rights and can be fired at any time. The only good thing to think about as an employee is that most places will not fire you because they don't want you to be able to collect unemployment so they will in turn try to make your life hell so at least you know what is happening.
        • johndi, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2This is a place where a compromise could be worked out if there was enough will to see it happen. Maybe a public corporation should have to have cause while a private company could just let you go. If that wouldn't float then a cutoff based on the number of employees seems to work well enough in other situations.
    • plamoni, on 10/26/2007, -0/+6I agree, DeskFlyer... What was missing from this article was any mention of this actually happening... Sure, they found "dirt" that *might* get the parents in trouble at work, but they never said anything about a specific instance of someone actually getting fired over something their kids put on the internet.
      I mean, the web is a cesspool of libel. Most of which is totally untrue. If some teenage girl posts "my mom is an authoritarian, Nazi bitch", I sure hope that the mom's employers don't find that a reason to fire her. I mean half the teenage girls out there say that kind of stuff about their moms at one point or another. It's called, "being a teenager."
      • thecatcantalk, on 11/07/2007, -0/+5Umm, libel is totally untrue, by definition. That's why it's libel. There was a famous lawsuit involving Ernest Hemingway, years and years ago...E.H. was in the habit of writing characters whom were thinly-disguised, easily-recognizable (to those in his circle) versions of his friends and acquaintances. Anyhow, this one fellow (who was the basis for a totally unlikeable character in "The Sun Also Rises") sued Hemingway for defamation of character.
        The judge asked him, "So, how does this fictional character harm your reputation, in your career?"
        He replied, "Well, despite the name change, anyone who knows me can tell it's intended to be me, portrayed in a hostile and unsympathetic light."
        The judge responded, "Well, then, you've got no case. The character's name sounds nothing like your own, yet you say 'anyone can see he's modeled on you'. Therefore, it's can't be libelous, but only an unflattering portrayal of character traits you actually possess, which anyone who knows you will immediately recognize. Case dismissed."
        • thecatcantalk, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4"...one fellow (who was the basis for a totally unlikeable character in "The Sun Also Rises") sued Hemingway for defamation of character." Sorry, "defamation of character" should read, "libel". This story is true, to the best of my knowledge. I've read it in several Hemingway biographies, on- and offline
          Still, the "news" story from a Florida "internet expert" seems suspect. As someone else noted, it's odd that the reporter couldn't name one concrete example of such a thing actually happening, anywhere in his piece. Hmm. Sounds like another "EVERYBODY PANIC" piece from the mainstream media. Isn't it odd how newspapers, TV stations and politicians have done so much more to terrorize the American public, than Osama Bin Laden has ever done? Grossly irresponsible garbage, if you ask me. But no one did, of course. Later.
        • satx, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1That judge was the man.
  • whatthefu, on 10/26/2007, -2/+51If a firm digs that deep to find questionable information about its employees, one has to wonder about the integrity of the firm.
    • realunderdog, on 10/25/2007, -1/+2True.
      Like that old saying about having three fingers pointed back at themselves.
      • eatspie, on 10/25/2007, -2/+1Oh please tell that old saying again.
    • zybch, on 10/25/2007, -6/+2But if YOU were in charge of new hirings wouldn't you want to do everything possible to make sure that the person/s who get the jobs DON'T do drugs (for example) and other stuff like that?
      I know if I was ever to employ someone I'd so a lot of research on the net to see if there was anything I should know about but that the applicant didn't tell me.
      • RobotBuddha, on 10/25/2007, -1/+3Nope. I've only known a few people in a position where that'd be an issue, but 100% of the time they were busy to the point of hardly having time to read a full resume, let alone sit around guessing about whether so and so Johnson is the child of potential employee Bob Johnson.
      • bemenaker, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1No Zybch, in this country I believe we have a right to a private personal life. The only thing my employer needs too know is, can I do my job, can I get along w/ my co-workers. The rest isn't their business, and if they pry that deep, I won't work for them. And yes, I have been down this road.
        • Pake, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1It is their business if you're doing drugs or selling company secrets. Sure, that's in your private personal life, but you are affecting their business. Think of it this way, no company needs you, because theres always a line of people who could do your job.
          You make them look bad and they'll just hire the next person in the line to replace you.
  • felidaeus, on 10/25/2007, -0/+67Sorry Mr. Jacobs, we can't hire you. It appears that your son claims that you, "takes away my f*king money". We don't want to hire thieves Mr. Jacobs.
  • wittyname, on 10/25/2007, -0/+19Blackmail could instantly get you a raise in your allowance.
  • str3ama, on 10/25/2007, -0/+51If they can actually sift through the animated gifs, glitter text and emo punk-rock....I give them kudos for having the patience to go that far.
    • eatspie, on 10/25/2007, -4/+0The cops want to talk to you mister.
    • mrFREEZE, on 10/25/2007, -1/+6I don't know who has it worse, the guys who have to sort through and catalog child porn or the guys who have to read through hundreds of myspace pages per day.

      I think either job would lead to me committing suicide.
    • nonymous666, on 10/25/2007, -0/+3Interns.
  • meachen, on 10/25/2007, -1/+5looks like I have ***** up a whole generation of 'Meachens' for life
    • DirtySnachez, on 10/25/2007, -0/+11My dad will hire you. Your'e prepared to smuggle coke up your ass right, cus my dad only employs drug smuggling ass bandits.
  • manicallday, on 10/26/2007, -1/+20I think that looking that deep into a employees background is a little much. I really believe that human resources is a complete joke and a waste of money for most corporations. There the only ones that have the time to waste looking at the Facebook pages of an employee's children. I don't want my employees feeling that there personal lives are connected to their work. In fact, I don't even care that you have a family. All I care about is getting the best work product that you can produce as quickly as possible. If this means that you need to drink yourself silly or beat your children when your away from the office, then so be it. But, once it starts affecting your work product then we have a problem and I'm not really going to want to hear about your personal problems.

    This is not going to mean that I'm not going to provide help. I believe in providing the best possible work atmosphere for my employees. If this means that you need some type of treatment then I will pick up the tab. Whatever it takes to keep the ship running right. Just make sure that you get your ***** done and not cause drama or problems and we will not have any problems.
    • eatspie, on 10/27/2007, -13/+1stfu, you're a teenager bloggin about your parents.
    • BLish, on 10/25/2007, -7/+3"If this means that you need to drink yourself silly or beat your children when your away from the office, then so be it."

      did your mom have any kids that lived?
      • yingjai, on 10/25/2007, -0/+6Rhetoric question? Or are we dealing with an undead here?
    • Cerebral, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1Love the comment. I've always believed this should be the case as well. I love how big of a "smoke and mirrors" act HR really is. I also love how companies who have owners that are "so giving" and "treats each employee like a family member" are usually the biggest jokes of all. For instance my employer is one of those and it's funny to me that for an employer who is labeled that (both self and by others that DO and HAVE worked her) will drop people for personal things like this. For instance if you are supposed to be treating your employees like family members and your random drug screens show up positive you shouldn't just up and fire somebody for showing positive. You would instead offer help and assistance to get the person back on their feet and/or to kick the habit. Obviously if they are not willing to stop or change themselves then you let them go but seriously. My place of business ALWAYS did their "random" drug testing the next business day after a holiday weekend. That's effed up really.
      • arjie, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1Your business did random drug testing?!!
  • Vazelos, on 10/25/2007, -0/+15You mean adults can understand the language teenagers type in online?
  • thomasprebble, on 10/25/2007, -6/+1I wish it would cost toss-pot opposition politician Bill English his job. http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/2/article_49 ...
    • bingobongony, on 10/26/2007, -1/+3yeah..he is the only reason why marijuana is illegal!
  • sotopheavy, on 10/25/2007, -0/+12Solution: be your own boss
    • solid12345, on 10/25/2007, -3/+0Ok Mr. Berman.
    • nonymous666, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2And don't let your customers know about the internet.
  • ravage86, on 10/25/2007, -0/+7The real problem is how easily searchable people are on sites such as myspace. Insure your kids don't use their last name on sites like this, otherwise they are very easy to search for. If your kid posts online telling people that you use drugs, take the computer away for a week. Don't put up with that *****.
    • Tankslap, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1LOL, guess what they'll post next week. It won't be as pleasant as using drugs if that's the type of ***** your kid is.
      • ravage86, on 10/25/2007, -0/+8Next week they won't do anything stupid, or they wont be allowed onto social websites at all. It's called parenting people.
        • BLish, on 10/25/2007, -0/+3but people in todays society don't wanna take responsibility for their childrent.. (parenting).. which is why most of these people should not be reproducing in the first place. IMO
    • Cerebral, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1What difference will it matter taking away your kid's computer after you've gotten sacked?
      If you were actually keeping up with this stuff on a regular basis then they would not post those kinds of things however I understand how nearly impossible it would be to do.
    • nonymous666, on 10/25/2007, -0/+5Take their computer away? F that. I'd just make some posts under their name where they supposedly admit to blowing the football team or something. Eye for an eye.
  • spyd3rweb, on 10/25/2007, -7/+4police should not be monitoring myspace period, unless a warranted search is taking place.
    • zybch, on 10/25/2007, -1/+9Why not? Anyone with half a brain (yes yes, I know that excludes most myspacers) knows that NOTHING they do on MySpace is private.
      • theholyraptor, on 04/07/2008, -0/+3I don't think it's a question of privacy. I think most of the idiots on the internet think that despite being public, no one is gonna come across your myspace account randomly and no one cares enough to be searching for dirt on them.
      • Zipko, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1Some people are just idiots. There's a facebook group someone at my school started called Where's The Party At?, and people actually put address up. It just screams 'bust me' because you know the local cops are keeping an eye on these social sites.
    • Abomonog, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2Police are legally entitled to, and do search Myspace and other social networking sites. They are public and therefore no warrant is needed for the police to troll them. People have indeed gone to prison over myspace postings. But this so far has been because of photos of drugs which the police used to obtain search warrants.
      • spyd3rweb, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1oh no im so sorry... would you like to try for double jeopardy where the stakes can really change... myspace.com is private property owned by news corp.
  • MalDON, on 10/25/2007, -13/+20My daddy (George Bush) has committed crimes against the world, but no one has noticed.

    *wishes*
    • bingobongony, on 10/25/2007, -5/+35Seriously, what IS you day like? I am guessing it is something like this:

      FRIEND: Hey, did you see Game 1? Boston really played well.
      YOU: The Rockies only lost because of the crimes committed by Bush! ***** Bush!

      FRIEND: Want to go to the movies this weekend?
      YOU: Movies suck these days, thanks to that war criminal George Bush!

      LITTLE KIDS AT YOUR DOOR NEXT WEDNESDAY: Trick or Treat!
      YOU: I am only giving you kids candy because none of you are dressed up like that bastard George Bush!

      YOUR MOM: Hi son.
      YOU: ***** George Bush!

      You must be a laugh riot at parties! Always able to turn COMPLETELY non-ploitical discussions into anti-Bush bitch fests.
  • Hellride, on 10/25/2007, -2/+3sounds like a crock of *****
    • Zipko, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1



      I'm only posting here so Jclarky's post below will be taken out of context


  • Jclarky, on 10/25/2007, -2/+3it IS a crock of *****
  • bingobongony, on 10/25/2007, -1/+6I call ***** on this.
  • Catbert107, on 10/25/2007, -0/+19I hate stories that report on what COULD happen, not what is happening
    • bemenaker, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1Think again, there are some employers, that are this paranoid and invasive. There are a few in CIncinnati I REFUSE to work for, for that reason.
  • kindrobot, on 10/25/2007, -0/+9"I understand, according to this blog post, you are
    "a total newb and has no idea I can see all his PRON".
    After some considerable research, Mr Davis, we have identified the aforementioned "pron" and have decided it's best if you no longer work in the pediatrics department. We're sorry if this has caused you any inconvenience. We are continuing our extensive research into this matter, and if it turns you that you do indeed represent the characteristics of a "newb" we will be forced in the future to pwn you. Good day."
    • gr0ss, on 10/26/2007, -0/+2I could see that happening when people my age and younger (18) start to get into positions of authority in the workforce, which makes me laugh. If anyone ever said that to my face and made it feel like they really meant it, I would probably laugh in their face and quit on the spot.
      • bemenaker, on 10/26/2007, -0/+2Man I think the young generation out there now, that you speak of, would laugh at the idea of "researching crackspace" Hell, they no it's a joke.
  • vidar808, on 10/26/2007, -2/+7
    Scenario: 10 years from now the government drafts patriot act III. "Enemy combatent" is broadened to include all those who are dampening the effectiveness of the war in Iran. The Governments debt ceiling has been raised to $22 trillion. Washington has become a police state and all non-government civilians must keep a 10 mile distance to thwart possible nuclear attack. The Government creates data mining software to sift through its massive internet archive. A mirror of every public facing website going back 15 years. All items deemed inflammatory or that fit into the a wide range of categories are scoured to find those who are negatively impacting governments effectiveness. Random people across the country are getting mystery illnesses that lead to death. All private ISP's are shutdown and Internet 2 is run through a central US Hub to defend against future web attacks after the electronic pearl harbor. An attack created by a botnet of 10 million computers which attacked key infrastructure points...

    Possible?
    • theholyraptor, on 04/07/2008, -1/+5unfortunately I couldn't say it's not possible. I'd be leaving the country by then.
      • CatsAreGods, on 10/30/2007, -1/+7What makes you think they'd give you a passport?
        • TekTrixter, on 10/30/2007, -0/+6Who said he'd get a passport? If the Mexicans can get in, we can get out...
    • dartmanx, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2Then, a terrorist sends out hundreds of millions of Guy Fawkes masks...
    • datastorageguy, on 10/26/2007, -1/+1No. Unless you sink further into your Ritalin induced paranoid schizophrenia and can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
  • solid12345, on 10/26/2007, -5/+1Technically adults can't even look at kids myspace I thought? Age restrictions and all that junk.
  • Velnich, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2Time to think more seriously about not using these kinds of sites. Too little gained for how much risked.
    • bemenaker, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1Time to think about where you want to work. If people quit applying at those companies, they will really have to rethink their practices.
  • theholyraptor, on 04/07/2008, -0/+4if I saw absolutely no negative results of drugs supposedly being used, then forget it. millions of people use drugs, and I'm not saying this cause I use, I don't. I know lots of people that do. For some of them, it makes them better at what they do. Overall, if it's not something that's effecting someone else (ie "Daddy beats mommy and I"), and doesn't effect their job or happen while on company time, what do I care about their personal life? Maybe he and his wife like really kinky BSM sex. Not my business.
    • bemenaker, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1Only one reason companies drug test, discount on health insurance premiums.
  • AriaStar, on 10/26/2007, -0/+6Considering that probably half of everything online is misleading or outright false, it's hard to believe anyone will trust some random kid's blog. Kids get pissed at their parents and are prone to exaggerate. I'd like to say that any company that would look at teen blogs isn't worth working for, but hell, bills have to be paid, even if it means working at a dumbass company.
  • eviscero, on 10/25/2007, -0/+8"Take your daughter to work day is the perfect time to get her tested."
  • Democritus2, on 10/25/2007, -2/+9"Not only do I have to live with my nagging mom, my dad does drugs."
    Jenna Bush. please be quiet.
  • digghasnoethics, on 10/25/2007, -0/+9Sounds like there are a whole lot of employers and cops that need to get jailed before they will realise what they are doing is evil.

    Work is providing a certain number of hours for a certain amount of money. No employer has a right to more than that, and they had better get to understand it since what they are attempting to do is infringing on basic human rights. They are in the wrong and its only a matter of time before individuals find themselves in court on charge.
  • barc0de, on 10/26/2007, -2/+1PARENTS! Don't worry that your kids are chatting to paedophiles, or getting involved in dangerous cults or other such misanthropic group behavior. Just worry that it might just sometime, in the off-chance, affect your bottom-line!!!
    • RSersen, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1PARENTS! If you do your job, get off your lazy asses and take responsibility for your children, you won't have to worry about them chatting with pedophiles, getting involved in dangerous cults, or other such misanthropic group behavior, because you'll know what they're doing!
  • Shaman760, on 10/26/2007, -0/+3Why would anyone work for a company that inserts itself so far up your ass that you need a pink slip to take a dump?
    http://www.lifereboot.com/2007/the-working-dead/
  • MIDO997, on 10/25/2007, -4/+0Take your daughter to work day is the perfect time to get her tested
    http://forex7.110mb.com
  • pigfister, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1What do you expect when Rupert Murdoch as anything to do with social networking (MySpace) you think that only AT&T spy on you do you?
  • jeremyduffy, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1I think the article made a mistake by showing this happening from a search outwards to finding an employee. No one would really go through thousands of teen blogs just hoping that one of them has a parent that works for you.

    Where this could actually happen is that the company is doing an investigation before they hire you OR if someone in the company is mad and wants to get you fired. Then this becomes an ugly possibility.
  • bobburgster, on 10/25/2007, -0/+0Seems a bit alarmist to me, but so is 60% of all news.
  • yingjai, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2"Son, as a result of your online activities, you have caused me my job. Because I cannot pay for the roof over your head, or the internet bills for that matter, I am selling all your consoles and anything computer related to pay for the bills."

    "That son of a bitch stole all my stuff!"
  • luvearth, on 10/25/2007, -2/+1This is just a ploy to scare parents into not allowing their child to use the computer and advance in computer technologies-the government keeps control on everything-including intelligence. Buried.
  • atomic811, on 10/26/2007, -1/+2People need to mind their own business. I go outside daily and know I am surrounded by morons. At first I thought it was just the country I live in (USA) but, I now see it is a worldwide event. I wish I would just die. If I wasn't so scared of death I would.
  • insomniac8400, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1This has to be satire.
    • Scira, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1What does a mythical man-goat have anything to do with this?
  • john570, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1This is some dumb-ass speculative article about what could happen, not what is happening from a local TV station in Milwaukee. I call ***** on the whole thing. Dugg Down. Journalist's wonder why they have such little credibility among the populace. It's articles like this.
  • jbird123, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1What if I wrote on myspace/bebo that my Dad was a respectable, peaceable, hard working, charming, humble, honest, caring, trustworthy kind of guy? Can he get a pay rise? :D
    ...Or I could pretend to be my own brother and make some nonsense up about myself to make me sound good, then I could have the pay rise! :P

    Or even better...

    I could pretend to be YOUR brother and write nonsense about YOU and then YOU can get sacked! ;)
  • leftcoastfunk, on 10/26/2007, -1/+3Parents Beware: Doing Drugs Can Cost You Your Job

    Seriously: If you don't do anything that would cost you your job, you don't have jack ***** to worry about now do you? If you DO do those kinds of things, well...ya kinda had it coming. Losing a job, losing your family, losing your dignity, etc. It's all going to happen at some point if you put yourself in that position. Do these people actually blame the businesses who uncover these things for their problems? "If you had never looked at my kid's Myspace page, I'd still have a job". Boss' reply: "If you didn't do drugs, you'd still have a job". Haha, sucker!

    While I don't agree with companies getting that involved in employees/prospective employees private lives, I can't blame them either. If you run a business and are in a position to be able to know what kinds of people you're actually dealing with, you would find out. 'nuff said.
  • philba, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2The article doesn't give a single example of this happening. I was skeptical when I saw the headline but without concrete examples, I agree with the "*****" comments.
    Secondly, people, especially kids, need to have some degree of anonymity on line. It's just common sense.
  • geogia456, on 10/27/2007, -1/+1Yes, some of my friends at millionairematch.com have the same opinion. We have spent lots time talking that.
  • remowill, on 10/25/2007, -0/+0I would like to find out if there are actual cases of this happening and what happened. If you got canned because of this type of thing, lets hear about it.
  • ValleyWonka, on 10/25/2007, -0/+0Imagine this being posted by your kid.. My dad's on digg all day at work and he tells mommy how writes comments on all posts. I wonder why he gets paid.... I am not having kids..
  • bbtweb, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1While I don't agree with everything that may be posted on social networking sites either, businesses, principals, etc. need to get over this. If you threaten to deny someone a job opportunity based on a social networking site and not on their skills, then you are not only a stupid ass, but you make the company you work for look like a clump of stupid asses. Agree or disagree with being allowed to post certain material, I think there really needs to be a safe space on the web where people can be themselves like they are everyday outside of the web.
  • Cerebral, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1I haven't seen it anywhere but is there anything like the confidentiality between a husband and wife with a family... like wife and kid or husband and kid. If not then there should be then it would not matter what is found because it would be inadmissible in court as the source is bound by the confidential status. Then if someone fired you FOR that you might be able to sue because they have no evidence of such acts etc. Just a thought.
  • VitriolAndAngst, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1What this exposes is that we've got a lot of Nanny Police State laws that need to go.
    If you are harming your kid -- that should get you in trouble. Obviously, a lot of people who do illegal drugs are functioning just fine -- nobody would know if their kids didn't put it on blogs.
  • dbc29, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1It's funny how all of this Digg banter is all about the integrity of the employers and the children. How about the integrity of the parents? STOP DOING STUFF THAT WILL GET YOU FIRED... and you'll probably be OK. The lack of personal accountability in this generation is astounding.
  • Solid07, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1Why do people give kids more credibility?
  • breezyflight, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1Being employed will cost you your job.
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