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Police Brutality on 13 yr-olds Including a Girl-For Skateboarding (w/ Vid)

thehundreds.com — OK, This one is just out of control, this group of kids were skateboarding down the street in Arkansas when this cop decided to get all power hungry on them. He chokes out the first kid, chases another, puts a girl and another guy in a headlock, and it's all caught on video. The info is in the post.

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  • webcure, on 10/11/2007, -24/+189Out of Control is definitely the right expression.
    I love skateboarding punks.
    • DubbedOver, on 10/11/2007, -6/+70I love skateboarding punks with video cameras.
    • SnuKs, on 10/11/2007, -17/+6I love skateboarding punks with video camera who use youtube is used for good.
    • TaylorTAP, on 10/11/2007, -8/+7Ballsy punk kids!! HAHA Love it!
    • mayonnaiseparty, on 10/30/2007, -15/+1punks is right.
    • danarama, on 10/11/2007, -10/+3these arn't punks these are rich suburban kiddies. they might as well be rollerblading.
    • joel8x, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4If the cop had just told them that they couldn't do it, then it probably would have been fine. It very probable that these angst-ridden 13 year olds said or did something really stupid in response instead of just getting off their boards that elevated the situation to what we see in the video. It really stems back to the fact that kids have no fear of adults because the moment you touch one that is under age, you are ***** - and they know it. Yeah the cop took it too far at the end, but I can see how the kids could have brought this all on.
      • ammisan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What, by riding skateboards?

        The cops need to back the hell off of people. They have far too much power these days and use it to over-enforce rules that they twist for their own uses on every available chance.

        Obviously you've never had a sniveling, overweight pig arrest you for a ***** charge.
        • Nodaki, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Pigs will do what pigs will do...it is why they call them pigs.
    • Dolomite, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Anyone else thinking a regime change is in order for that police department? I'm thinking an online petition is just the thing we need right now, come on diggers, what do ya say??? Anyone game?
    • bluesdealer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2"If the cop had just told them that they couldn't do it, then it probably would have been fine."

      Cops don't get to make the law.
  • Timmaay, on 10/11/2007, -11/+447The girl refuses to sit down and gets put in a choke hold, someone needs a hug.

    Seriously though this guy is completely nuts, maybe something happened before the video that we didn't see but could it really deserve this? I doubt it, good example of a power hungry cop.
    • sgglynn, on 10/11/2007, -5/+85No, the moment you challenge an officers authority to do something, they immediately take it personal. The people who become cops because they like authority, will end up acting like this; trying to arrest anyone any everyone in the group
      • Smoot, on 10/30/2007, -32/+11So, since you've studied the profile of police officers in some form of exhaustive research. Would you say that your comment covers 100% of the police officers or only 99%? What was the margin of error for your research? Had any of your research uncovered any blanket statements that could be made by skate punks? What percentage of them regularly respond to gun fights, robberies or accidents? Perhaps like all groups, there are always some that behave badly in some situations?
        • darting, on 10/30/2007, -14/+5Why is this guy getting dugg down? He's absolutely correct.
        • rrasco, on 10/11/2007, -10/+2b/c this is digg, ~dee-da-dee!
        • Spacejack, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12It's up to the police to -police- themselves. This one always comes up "don't mistrust us because of a few bad apples." Hey. You eat lunch with those bad apples. You work with them every day and hear what comes out of their mouths. You see psychoses and racist behavior and power-tripping. BUT STILL SOMEONE HAS TO GET THEIR HEAD BASHED IN BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. So shut the ***** up about your bad apples. It's the cops' job to find them, not ours.
      • Dolomite, on 10/30/2007, -5/+1The same thing has been happening to black people in this country since the dawn of time... now that it has happened to some spoiled rich white kids do people seem to give a damn.
        • Nodaki, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Powertripping pigs happen to everyone...seriously everyone.
    • bentman78, on 10/30/2007, -33/+8people become cops to uphold the law. I know plenty of them and they're all good people.
      That one kid attacked the cop...he deserved what he got.
      • RobNus, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7and the other guy and girl who were headlocked? for backchat? i smell a lawsuit!
      • yakski, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4That cop was a criminal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you have to be NUTS to agree with him.
      • Nodaki, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Thankfully I wasn't there...something bad would have definately happened.
    • glasnostic, on 10/11/2007, -7/+26I would have had a very hard time keeping myself from clipping that cop in the back of the head with my deck if I was that kid standing there watching. I had a cop put a gun to my face while grabbing me by the neck because my friends were skating in a parking lot. They then ransacked my van. No love for pigs like, that I could have been shot in the face if I had made the wrong move.
      • dvdvideo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28I had some trouble with police on GSD too, but luckily it was an understanding cop who simply talked to us calmly and said that unfortunately we couldn't keep skating there (local school) so we complied, but i am much more willing to be cooperative with a cop who is calm and treats me as an equal than one like the guy in this video
      • actorboy, on 10/30/2007, -5/+9glasnostic, you might also get shot in the face for clipping a cop in the back of the head with your deck. Take it how you list, but personally, you sound like the type cops should keep an eye on.
        • ammisan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0what, because he would refuse to tolerate ***** and blatant misuse of police power?
      • godd4242, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7My friend got maced for reminding a cop to read him his Miranda rights

        "Don't I have the right to remain silARGH O MY GOD MY EYES IT BURNS HOLY ***** OWWWJESUS ***** CHRIST
      • Nodaki, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I got maced for standing up...I broke off of two cops because they tackled me. I jumped up and pulled away and said, "I'm not resisting." The irrational mofo pulled out his pepper spray and blasted me when I was coming towards them with my arms in the air. I was charged with resisting arrest and obstruction of justice.
    • prozoc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7But then a second officer assists in the arrest? Either they're both crazy and power hungry, or, yes, something happened before.
      • mr100percent, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9More like the first officer calls for help and they always take the word of another officer over any bystanders. I don't think that is outrageous, but the first officer's actions are.
      • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1I guess the second cop was just supposed to stand back and watch these kids get scraped up more -- maybe even get clarification as to what they did while watching the first cop struggle with them. It's not like first cop was just going say, "Not gonna help me partner? I guess I'll let these kids go then." No matter what side of the argument the second cop falls on, helping get these kids quickly restrained and in cuffs was the best thing he could do to keep them from getting hurt further.
      • tzonic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6From the looks of it the second officer kinda seemed a bit surprised at the firsts overreaction, and was kinda staying out. Maybe the video camera had something to do with that.
      • craterburnsu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Did you see the Bike Helmet? They were probably both Bicycle cops, who were pretty pissed that they were not aloud to drive a squad car, so they decided to take it out on the kids.
    • spinaboy, on 10/30/2007, -12/+0You are an idiots. All of you. You know nothing about teenagers today.
  • xDFuNK, on 10/11/2007, -15/+95i'm pretty sure they were just skating down the street, doesn't look like a spot to hit any tricks or anything, considering all the ppl around and storefronts.
    • thumperings, on 10/11/2007, -11/+5Wow this was on Reddit 2 days ago, and every comment was "DAMN KIDS I HATE THEM ON MY LAWN" Cop was in the right!!" EVERYYYYY comment ..stupid assholes.
    • actorboy, on 10/30/2007, -8/+8"doesn't look like a spot to hit any tricks or anything, considering all the ppl around and storefronts."

      Which is why they shouldn't be skating on the sidewalk in the first place.
      • GliTCH82, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Well why the hell not, people trust that other people won't run into them while they're on two feet, but if you stand on a board that moves suddenly people are terrified?
  • thedefiantone, on 10/11/2007, -38/+828Oh and just in case you were interested, the officer’s name is Joey Williams, and he works for the:
    Hot Springs Arkansas Police Department
    Phone: (501) 321-6789
    Fax: (501) 321-6708
    Chief of Police, Bobby Southard
    Email: bsouthard@cityhs.net
    641 Malvern Avenue,
    Hot Springs, Arkansas 71901

    You know, just in case you were wondering.
    • dolazy, on 11/03/2007, -66/+12Ok, this is dangerous. How do we know that this really is his name and you are not trying to harass an innocent person?
      • EarlOfLade, on 10/11/2007, -4/+23He took it from the web page. Why would the ones who posted the video post a fake name? What would they achieve with that?
        • dolazy, on 10/30/2007, -8/+3I'm not saying it really is a fake name, but it's not impossible, ..on the internet.
          I think that this could become a dangerous trend that would harm a lot of innocent people.
        • nick1000, on 10/30/2007, -11/+2Maybe because this was shot for a home movie and the "cop" in the movie is a friend. Maybe this whole setup was done just to harass some cop.
        • IbnDigg, on 10/30/2007, -7/+6you morons,

          i clicked four times to see if you had anything useful to say, and i waited atleast two minutes, and all you had was *****!!

          //i hate this new comment system
        • Leadhyena, on 10/30/2007, -4/+1because the primary source was a wordpress blog. I trust the media, but not some pimply-faced blogger.
        • christianw, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@Leadhyena

          lol you trust the media...

          lmao what a ***** maroon lmao
        • teamwasted, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0hyena, its not just a blog, its a video on multiple websites and in the possession of those kids. I'm sure that cops gonna get what's coming to him.
      • UnFriendlyFire, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5It is his real name.

        http://www.katv.com/news/stories/0607/434405.html
      • lacr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You can even hear his name in the video.
      • froschkonig, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1you know it is because he says it is. by law he has to give his name if you ask for it. police here in texas have business cards that they give out to anyone that asks for it. and besides the only contact info given is for the police dept and the police cheifs business email, so i am not sure how one would go about harassing any of them.
    • dimebags, on 11/03/2007, -4/+74i asked them to not choke little girls, they disagreed with me, oh well, watch out kids
    • OMGWTFROFLMAOx2, on 11/03/2007, -34/+5haven't we gone through this before?
      • Dgen_X, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3banned because of name....holy christ
      • Leadhyena, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4name aside, you're right OMG. This is not a smart thing to do again.
    • xruntime, on 11/03/2007, -7/+24Signed up for spam!
      • alexgamerz, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4I would not have thought of that, very nice!
      • ascheinberg, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3You idiot! You are WHY cops are jerks. What is the purpose of that? ONE cop was the problem, and he was PROMPTLY suspended. File a formal complaint the proper way instead of being an immature prick. You are NOT helping the situation!
      • BoneyMan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Instead of sending the guy meaningless spam (and probably making him not use that e-mail address anymore), I'd rather see people send their thoughts. If possible, without them being submerged in spam...

        You know,like, cause it's smarter?
    • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -2/+25here ya go.. email ALL of these addresses with the note that the Chief's email address was disabled:

      http://www.cityhs.net/contact_us-directory.html
      • Nerdculture, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4easy list to copy

        gdownie@cityhs.net, dbugg@cityhs.net, balbright@cityhs.net, kmyers@cityhs.net,
        jscott@cityhs.net, jlawrence@cityhs.net, dmcphate@cityhs.net, dyates@cityhs.net, edavis@cityhs.net, gspeas@cityhs.net, mlenox@cityhs.net, jwinter@cityhs.net, breddish@cityhs.net, jwallace@cityhs.net, ksellman@cityhs.net, bsouthard@cityhs.net, tpayne@cityhs.net, smallett@cityhs.net, bburrough@cityhs.net
      • thirdeyeopen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I have sent an email!!.....I still feel pissed....
    • oxdeltaxo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+32@ OMGWTFROFLMAOx2

      It's a public phone number and address to the police department, and the officer is a civil servant. It's not like it's his home phone number and address.
      • alexgamerz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3well, someone find it then :P
      • mhuggins, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3You don't need to use the @username anymore.
    • IbnDigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18I email Terry Pane, Public Information Officer, City of Hot Springs and he acknowledged my email straight away. His email taken from Kinjiru's url is: tpayne@cityhs.net
    • darkamster07, on 10/11/2007, -2/+42I love digg
    • univerio, on 10/11/2007, -15/+4A look on the white pages returns the following:

      http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/newsearch?&searchLName=Williams&searchState=AR&searchCity=Hot%20Springs&searchFName=Joey&TID=0&cid=people&searchtab=people
    • univerio, on 10/11/2007, -15/+2Oops, wrong address...

      http://www.whitepages.com/5116/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=0&firstname=Joey&name_begins_with=0&name=Williams&housenumber=&street=&city_zip=Hot+Springs&state_id=AR
    • Darkhowling91, on 10/11/2007, -12/+6In light of recent events - isn't it illegal to post contact information online for the pourpose of harassment?
      • chimaera2005, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I think only in certain states. I could be wrong but I've never heard about it here in Arizona.
      • Moocat, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4It's not expressly for the purpose of harassment, and a public phone number can be reposted anywhere at any time.
    • Orion682, on 10/11/2007, -2/+29It's not a person's contact information, its the police precinct he works for. You're filing a complaint with them, not harassing them. There's a difference.
    • ophilye, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Wow, their website is INCREDIBLY slow. I blame digg effect.
      Woot! :)
    • djripple, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22I called.. No comment, except that the officer is under investigation.
      • bluejet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6He will back to beating kids in no time... That's probably the only way he can get an erection. He probably beats his wife, if he even has one.

        Cops are so friggin' dumb...
      • bluesdealer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yeah, unfortunately I've seen cops do FAR worse than this (think unprovoked murder) and the officers actually getting promoted after the investigation. It's the police who are investigating him... they look out for their own. Does anyone else see anything wrong with that?
    • ecorona, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8just remember when you call or e-mail how you'd feel if that were your daughter or little sister
    • Kevmo68, on 10/11/2007, -5/+22Apparently the Chief's e-mail is no longer in service...I say BLAST his bosses, the Mayor and the City Council Here are their addresses
      http://www.cityhs.net/about-hs-elected-officials.html
      Here is My E-mail to ALL of them
      Dear Chief Southard,

      I hope after witnessing the following video of Officer Williams atrocious display of violence you plan on taking swift and stern action to reevaluate your departments position on how your officers arrest minors in your city. This is disgusting and you should be ashamed.

      It is power hungry dirtbags like Officer Williams that confuse young minds about the authority and good nature of most law enforcement officials. I do sincerely hope that Officer Williams is not only suspended from duty but there should be considerations for termination for his morally reprehensible acts.

      These children were doing nothing more than being children. If these actions can not be logically separated in the mind of an Adult Authority figure with powers such as his then Officer Williams should no longer be an officer. This is a blatant disregard of authority and this action needs to be addressed.

      Thank you for your time, sir.
      • Kevmo68, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10I just sent this to ALL of the city council members:

        Dear Mayor and City Council Members of Hot Springs,

        I am writing to you due to the apparent failure of Chief Southards e-mail address. I hope you will pass this note along to him and consider the ramifications that Officer Williams has had on your community now that the video of his horrendous and brutal attack on these youngsters has spread throughout the country.

        This video has appeared on the most well known and highly trafficked web site news filters throughout the internet. Digg.com, Fark.com, and Fazed.org each account for more internet traffic than MSNBC and ABC News Online combined. If you look mearly at the comments on Digg.com's posting of this story you will see the outrage that has touched thousands of people who will in turn send this story along to friends and colleagues.

        I'm sure this is not the type of advertising your City's Chamber of Commerce is looking for or that you yourselves want for your city but, by taking swift and immediate action you will send a message to readers like myself who might one day come and visit your fine community.

        Thank you,
        ~Kevin
        from Southern California

        Small town folks like this might get scared about the big bad internet. :)
      • littleodie914, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Sent as well. :)
      • thirdeyeopen, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4I sent this,
        To whom it SHOULD concern.

        Unfortunatly the Email I found for Bobby Southard has been disabled, so I am writing you.

        This -http://www.thehundreds.com/wordpress/?p=1874 is an UNACCEPTABLE display of total irresponsibility.

        Choking teenage girls and threatening to spray them with mace is what I would call child abuse.

        Watch this video, and immagine that it is your child.

        Joey williams obviously does not have the SELF CONTROL required of a person in a position of power and responsibility such as that of a police officer.

        Please remove his badge before he murders someone
    • spinaboy, on 10/30/2007, -14/+1yes yes...let us all follow the lead of the DEFIANT ONE. morons.
      • PissedGodzilla, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1screw you pansy... do what's right and tell them that this can't be tolerated.
    • twitmer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Yup... Email Adress doesn't work anymore. I just got this bounce.

      This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

      Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

      bsouthard@cityhs.net

      Technical details of permanent failure:
      PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 13): 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
    • sammysnake, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Send them a fax, : https://faxzero.com/ -- Accepts M$Word Docs.
    • mdkoch84, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Thank you for your comments. Please be advised that the City of Hot Springs is concerned, and the incident is under review by the proper authorities.

      Terry Payne
      Public Information Officer
      City of Hot Springs P.O. Box 700 Hot Springs, AR 71901
      tpayne@cityhs.net
      Ofc 501 321 6806 Fax 501 321 6809

      City Web Site: www.cityhs.net
      Government Access Channel: HSTV-15
      24-hour Action Line: 501 321 6808
      • castaspellingB, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I called to find out the mayors address and sent a letter to the mayor today because snail mail scares people.

        You can reach him here:

        Mayor Mike Bush
        City of Hot Springs
        P.O. Box 700
        Hot Springs, AR 71902
    • mV0G7, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Wow.
      This guy is absolutely ***** crazy.
      My blood is boiling right now.
  • nblsavage, on 10/11/2007, -10/+377Currently he's on administrative leave pending an investigation.
    There is a ban on skateboarding there but I don't think it justified the cop's actions.
    • SaxxonPike, on 10/11/2007, -6/+99Haha, he was accusing the OTHER guys of battery. I think this pig's got a big ego full of *****. Good to hear that's under investigation. I wonder if he knew there was evidence (footage) being taken.
      • sv650touring, on 10/11/2007, -1/+39That's what the dirty cops do. They beat the ***** out of you and press battery charges on you so they can claim their brutality was justified - and "innocent until proven guilty" really means "until a cop says you did something". If you are lucky they offer to drop their charges if you drop yours.
      • godd4242, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3He took the video camera

        Which has to be against some law...
        Right?
        I hope?
    • bobcrotch, on 10/11/2007, -8/+40Other than the fact that they were breaking the law thats bull *****. The kids weren't being violent, they didn't deserve being roughed up.

      They shouldn't have been skate boarding there though.
      • EarlOfLade, on 10/11/2007, -1/+38Well, maybe they shouldn't have been skate boarding. Hell, I know I did a lot of these "illegal" things when I was a kid and I've never seen anything like this. We were in contact with police a few times, but they only told us to get lost.

        Here is what the pug should have done:
        - Told the kids it was not legal to skate there and asked them to stop.
        - If they continued to skate, he should have stopped them and told them that if they do not stop, they will be fined.

        These kids looked pretty reasonable from the video and I'm sure if the pig had asked them in a decent way, they would have stopped.
        • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3From the vid: Cop: "Did I tell you to stop? And you turn around and keep going? That's disorderly conduct."

          The difference between you and these kids is that when you were told to stop, you stopped. Your scenario of: "If they continued to skate, he should have stopped them and told them that if they do not stop, they will be fined" does not work if the kids don't stop when told.
        • Yawgmoth, on 10/11/2007, -9/+0The bystanders even said that after the cop told him to stop the kid said "***** you" and kept riding. He couldn't have arrested them until they did something illegal like RUNNING FROM A POLICE OFFICER. If a cop tells you to do something, no matter how outrageous it seems, YOU DO IT. If you think that the police officer was in the wrong then you video tape it and file a complaint LATER. If an officer even THINKS that you are going to run or become violent then he WILL and has every RIGHT to 'rough you up'. This was not police brutality. Excessive force, perhaps, but these punks got nothing more than a view scrapes and a new respect for law enforcement.
          • CrazyPirate, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2"Running from a police officer" is not the same as resisting arrest. He needed to have a reason to arrest them first, and if I am understanding this correctly only the first kid was actually seen skating. So basically he pulled the charges out of his ass.
      • insomniac8400, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6That's nice, they shouldn't have been skateboarding there, but they deserve no punishment or not even deserve being forced to leave. So much for a ban. It's simple don't pass laws if you can't handle police enforcing them.
    • HarryManback, on 10/11/2007, -4/+27"Currently he's on administrative leave pending an investigation."

      Where did you get this info?
      • nblsavage, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12it's called Google.
        • a0me, on 10/11/2007, -0/+23Officer on leave after tussle with Hot Springs skateboarders

          HOT SPRINGS, Ark. (AP) - Hot Springs police have placed an officer on administrative leave while they investigate an Internet video that appears to show him choking three teenagers who were skateboarding.

          Mayor Mike Bush said investigators have talked with passers-by and business owners who saw Officer Joey Williams stop the teens on a downtown sidewalk Thursday. A YouTube video shows Williams apparently choking one teen after forcing him to the ground, while later chasing and wrestling two others while holding them in a headlock.

          Bush says he does not condone the officer's actions. Police spokesman McCrary Means says the department will release more details later.

          Williams could not be immediately reached for comment.

          The video shows the youths along Hot Springs' Central Avenue, an area where city ordinance prohibits skateboarding. Voices in the background can be heard asking Williams why he was arresting the youths.

          (Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)


          http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=6712585
        • IbnDigg, on 10/11/2007, -3/+27still hating this comment system
        • Jinx..., on 10/11/2007, -6/+3What is this Goo-gle you speak of?

          (^_^)
      • hardcore024, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Yeah.....administrative leave = paid vacation......all ***** cops do is take care of one another......all corrupt bastards
    • lacr, on 10/11/2007, -9/+16In my town, there's no skateboarding in the "downtown" area, yet kids have been doing it as long as I can remember. The cops ARE power tripping douchebags...taking away my friends' skateboards at any chance they get. Once, they gave my friend a 50 dollar ticket in that area for throwing a cigarette on the floor. Their reason? "A kid that's skateboarding could trip on it".........Sure. I am about to send an e-mail, because when I saw him take the little girl into a headlock is could only remind me that my sister is just a year older than her and I would NEVER want her to be dealt with like that.
      • spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -7/+8I agree with your final sentence, but I don't feel sympathy for your friend who was ticketed. It's good that the law frowns on people who treat the world like their personal ash tray. If you smoke don't be oblivious.
        • Monk22, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5how do you afford to send all your trash into space? im pretty sure you use the earth as a trashcan whether you like it or not so if you could come down off your soapbox we'd all appreciate it.
      • OsiVert, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Yeah, a lot of cops are power tripping douchebags, but the fine for throwing a cigarette on the ground could have been a lot higher, sometimes in the hundreds or thousands of dollars. It's called littering, and you would be amazed on how many cigarette butts litter the rivers around my house. It's disgusting. The cop, who was probably a douche bag, was being sarcastic with the tripping on a skateboard comment.
    • ubuwalker31, on 10/11/2007, -17/+7I am not sure if we are all watched the same video. I see a photo of the cop with his hand near/around the neck of this kid on the ground. Then, the video starts rolling, and the skater kids have gathered around near the Cop, and the Cop starts yelling about how the kid was fleeing. The camera guy, when asked what the kid did, says "he was skateboarding". Another kid goes, "i have a picture of you choking him" and the cop goes "get over here" and the kid runs, and the girl yells "run". A few moments later, after failing to catch the other kid, the cop tells the arrested kids friends to sit down, and the chick refuses and decides to run. The cop grabs her, and then her friend jumps in to fight with the cop and he headlocks him too. The girl runs away. The cop handcuffs the other kid on the ground.

      So, who is in the wrong here, exactly? Everyone. The Cop used too much force for the situation (I don't think it rose to the level of excessive force, but came awfully close). The skater punks did everything they could to interfere with the arrest. They surrounded the cop physically, not once, but twice, and confronted him, and yelled at him. Then, while he was trying to control the situation, they failed to obey his orders, and fled from him. Then, after a chase, he orders two of the kids to sit down, and they refused, and one of them even tried to fight with the cop. Sorry skater fags, but your bad behavior got you the punishment and discipline that you so richly deserved, that your parents weren't willing to give you.
      • JoshReflek, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5The cop was being a powermad jerkface.
        Choking kids to the pavement for skateboarding is excessive force.
        The kids behaved respectfully until it was apparent the cop lost perspective.
        He orders them to turn off the camera, which is illegal here in the u.s.a., afaik.
        When someone who carries a gun starts telling you to not film him choking skateboarding children, you should either get the ***** out of there, or find another cop who isnt an idiot and get their help.
      • godd4242, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3You know ubu, you had me until you broke out the ole "skater fags"

        This whole situation sucks, but the only real thing I am concerned with here is why is that kid on the ground being choked, and why did the cop ask the kid with the camcorder to drop it?

        Now that smells bad right thurrrr
    • baucat15, on 10/11/2007, -12/+0I could care less because i ***** hate skater punks like those kids but i hate the ***** police even more...The skater punks were wrong for disobeying the cop and trying to interfere with him.....the cop was way wrong for the excessive force he used....in the end i believe the cop was in the wrong moreso because the kids were only 13 years old....and one of them was a girl....if your a cop how do you justify putting a 13 year old girl in a choke hold while trying to subdue her....also its in the middle of ***** no where arkansas its legal to have sex with ur sister there...there all ***** up anyway
      • CaptO, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Don't you mean that you couldn't care less? Saying you could care less implies that you care, since it's possible to care less about it.
      • Sohj, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I'm not sure where you got the idea that incest is legal here in Arkansas, but it's not. I don't much care for either "skater punks" or police either. I think, in this case, both acted wrongly. The problem with an institution like the police is that there are only two types of people who are drawn to it: those who want to make some sort of difference in the world, and those who want to feel powerful for some reason. The sad thing is, in my experience (my father was a cop before he was forced to resign when he was caught buying cigarettes for minors) is there there are more of the latter. These sort of people only act right when there is some sort of force policing them, be it fear or whatever, but they don't really have that--especially in smaller cities like Hot Springs.

        I personally don't see a way to fix our current police system, but I think something should be done. Anyone have any ideas? Oh, and this comment system is kinda hard to use.

        /*START RANT*/
        I hate how people see Arkansans as ignorant, stupid, "***** up" idiots. I've lived here most of my live (was born and raised in Mtn. View, AR), and while there are morons here, I know that they exist elsewhere, too. We aren't technologically backwards, incest is illegal here, and we all own and wear shoes. Currently I'm getting my undergraduate degree in Biology with a minor in Comp. Sci. After that, I'm going to go on and get my Masters and eventually my PhD in Bioinformatics. I'm going to (most likely) do all this in Arkansas. I doubt baucat15 even knows what Bioinformatics is without looking it up. I know for a fact that he/she can't spell. Please, if you are going to call some group of people idiots, at least do it smartly.
        /*END RANT*/
    • fuzed, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Why is it that any kid with a skateboard is automatically considered a 'punk'?

      Talk about generalizing and stereotyping.
      • kinerry, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3Because they resist arrest and then expect pity for it

        Most of the skaters I know are punks that destroy property, beat each other up and have no respect for the police. Maybe they want to be black?
        • ammisan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Wow, way to show your rampant Xenophobia!
      • Yawgmoth, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I know alot of skateboarders. Some of them are 'punks' and some of them are nice people. What makes these kids 'punks' is that they run from the police, try to resist arrest and then expect pity when the officer catches them and arrests them. Skateboarding is not a crime. Running from the police is.

        Please ignore Kinerry's racist comment O.o
  • froston, on 10/11/2007, -23/+276I used to skate. Skateboarding is banned because skaters grind on ledges and rails screwing them up. Skateboarding on a sidewalk is nothing worse than rollerblading or riding a razor scooter. Chokeing someone for that is rediculous. ***** this guy, It was funny how he is rediculously fat and couldnt catch that kid.
  • Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -198/+54I'm on the side of the cop. Why is it that people think they can just do whatever they want, namely skateboarding, in areas clearly marked NO SKATEBOARDING. Then, when they resist or mouth off they dont expect any reaction from the cops? Thats just stupidity. And if a girl wants to fight like a man, expect the guy fighting you to throw down with you like a man. Everyones so hard up on "oh, cops are pigs and are pieces of *****." hey guess what, if you act like a normal human being, and the guy says, "hey, theres no skateboarding here." you say "sorry about that, and WALK away." everything will be fine. Sure that doesnt happen 100 percent of the time and there are bad cops out there. but when you come running up when one kid is already on the ground, you have to assume the cop was reacting to an already heightened situation. And no I'm not a sheep for just siding with the cop, i am siding with the law. A law that is most likely there for safety reasons. If a law is stupid, go through the proper channels to get it changed, dont break it, and dont if you do break it, dont act like a ***** when you do because it will only lead to trumped up causes like "battery" when the cop skins his knee taking you to the ground.
    • mikefitz2, on 10/11/2007, -25/+72Please refrain from using "reason" on digg. You are supposed to respond emotionally with a knee-jerk reaction to the title, THEN watch the video, THEN digg down people who post material that actually makes sense.
    • sexybobo, on 10/11/2007, -21/+15I think the officers main problem was for what ever reason he arrested the first kid for i wont say if that was right or wrong because there is no evidence ether way. but while he was arresting the kid he was standing there alone and 7 or 8 kids with skateboards that could easily be used as weapons showed up and started harassing the cop. if they all left or stood back nothing else would have happened the one kid might have spend the rest of the day in jail but now they have 6 people going to spend some time in jail because they were stupid.
      • DaveV, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15If you watched and listened to the video, you would hear the officer saying he arrested the first kid for not stopping when told. He then told the other kids to stay there and they started taking off.
    • jcblitz, on 10/11/2007, -14/+29You hung yourself with in the second sentence, "Why is it that people think they can just do whatever they want". That includes the police, he wasn't allowed to do that. Two wrongs don't make a right (I hate that saying but it fits), and his was much worse, he's a hired official to protect and serve and should be held to a higher standard.
      • DaveV, on 10/11/2007, -16/+6Yes, he was. He told the kids to stop skateboarding in a no skateboarding area and the didn't and they took off. His job was to apprehend them.

        Now, stfu and sit your ignorant ass down.
        • RobNus, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4apprehend != choke on the ground.
        • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4I didn't see any choking on the ground. Could you please point me to the part of the video that contains the choking?
        • christianw, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5i saw 1 kid run, and three kids stand there doing their best to comply with the officers commands as they are supposed to. the story says 1 kid ran. can you post the link to the video you watched DaveV because its not the same video anyone else watched.

          0:08 seconds in, still shot of Officer Joey Williams clearly choking an unarmed minor.

          0:35 seconds in he tells the child that failing to stop is fleeing, and fleeing is disorderly conduct. this clearly isnt the case in any state. a police officer is not allowed to intimidate citizens or minors, for any reason. that comment was made to a minor, with the expressed purpose to upset them based on the understanding that the child does not know the law or their rights.

          2:40 Officer Joey Williams tells a minor child to put his hands behind his back and then threatens to spray him. the child had been 100% compliant up to this point. officer williams comment was made purely to use thug like terrorist tactics against a minor child in hopes that he would not publish the tape that his video camera obviously contained.

          im gonna stop picking the video apart here because ive proven my point that Officer Joey Williams broke the law in more ways, and many more times during this incident than those kids ever did.

          the police are not above the law. period
      • Smoot, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1... and he will be held to a higher standard for behavior than the skater. The video will help. If his bad behavior was rampant, then we'd all have much bigger problems.
        You might also consider what would happen to the officer if a skater hurt some old woman who was walking in this NO SKATING zone and had done nothing. Do you think there might have been a lawsuit?
    • usrlocalbin, on 10/11/2007, -20/+14Conwaysb0718:
      ***** that cop. I hope you find yourself on the same side of those kids someday.
      Maybe that will dislodge your head from your ass.
    • XorSystem, on 10/11/2007, -6/+21Are you kidding? The police are there to make sure the citizens are protected from those wanting to do harm. How in the heck are a couple of kids skateboarding going to do major damage. Okay, the kids broke an ordinance, so slap them on the wrist, maybe give them a ticket and fine, and send them home. To tackle these kids, hold them down and cuff them, as if they're felons, is straight abuse. Were they direct imminent danger to anyone? One can argue that they could POSSIBLY run into someone, but law is not (well, most of the time) based on possibilities.

      This was disgusting. Instead of a justified punishment for violating an ordinance, you had kids thrown to the ground, hand cuffed, and detained. Honestly... for what... skateboarding? I hope this cop gets his ass canned.

      On a side note, Conways, how would it feel if a cop grabbed you, threw you to the ground, along with your friends, handcuffed you... all because you were driving around town blasting music from your car... sound a little overboard?
      • Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -16/+8Had the kids aknowledged the cops instruction, gotten off their boards, walked away and then hopped on where it was not a city ordinance, nothing would have happened. But no, they decided to act defiantly and escalate the situation which ends up with the cop taking kids down on the ground and cuffing them. The girl decided to mouth off and fight back, big mistake. the kid in the white shirt wouldnt stfu and then he decided to step in when the cop was restraining the girl, another big mistake.
        And in response to your hypothetical situation- You dont get pulled out of your car for getting pulled over for a sound violation. Unless you act like a ***** and start mouthing off or try and get violent-- which, oddly enough, is how these kids reacted to the cop telling them they couldnt skate in that particular area.
        • Continuum, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5when in that video did they get violent? If anything, they tried to get AWAY from the violence.
      • Louie510, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6"If you would of stopped when I asked you to, this wouldn't have happened."
        This is the mark of an enslaved society, not a free one.
        "All you gotta do is do what tells ya, and I wouldn't have to choke hold strangle you."
        • Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4You're totally right. the next time you get pulled over (provided you can even drive or own a vehicle), instead of giving the cops your license registration and insurance you should spit in his face and then assault him. Thats what a free person would do. Or better yet, dont even pull over, just keep driving, thats when you'll know your truly free.
          /sarcasm
        • r337ard, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3@Conways What are you thinking? You're justifying an extreme escalation in a minor situation. You don't have to be manhandled by any cop who decides to ask you a few questions or wants to write you a ticket. None of these kids were threatening or fighting with the cop, they have every right to question and protest the assault of their friend. Plain and simple, the guy was power tripping and you can see him boil over as the video goes on. This is not acceptable behavior for me, you or any other citizen regardless of station.
    • vajra918, on 10/11/2007, -12/+19I have to agree with the highly unpopular viewpoint that the kids had it coming. They all were being difficult and were resisting arrest.
      Now, I used to skate, and never had any problems like this (CA, not AK), but perhaps that because I didnt skate where city ord. prevented it, and got off my board when a cop asked me too.
      • Louie510, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4"If you would of stopped when I asked you to, this wouldn't have happened."
        This is the mark of an enslaved society, not a free one.
        "All you gotta do is do what tells ya, and I wouldn't have to choke hold and strangle you."
      • Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5You're totally right. the next time you get pulled over (provided you can even drive or own a vehicle), instead of giving the cops your license registration and insurance you should spit in his face and then assault him. Thats what a free person would do. Or better yet, dont even pull over, just keep driving, thats when you'll know your truly free.
        /sarcasm
    • SnuKs, on 10/11/2007, -9/+15Your joking right? You really think any of that EXCESSIVE force was justified let alone justified against a female? What kinda man are you saying if a female wants to fight like a man then she should take it? You're a pussy for even saying that. I'm guessin if a woman turned you down and slapped you in the face for being disrespectful you would hit her back because she "wanted to fight like a man". You're garbage.
      • sexybobo, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7hate to break it to you but females can kill people to. especially if they are caring around large planks of wood with larg metal brackets attached to them. And he really didn't use excessive force against her. he was trying to detain 2 people at one time how else would you go about trying to do that?
        and for all you people saying they were just skating down the road. the cop had one guy arrested before this video started so some thing else happened then what you are seeing.
      • Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7A) A chokehold is excessive force? Have you ever been in a chokehold? its restraint, not excessive force.
        2) If ANYONE, male or female, comes at you swinging and you just take it, you are the pussy.
        D) A warranted slap in the face is not the same as a fight. But if some girl walked up to me out of nowhere and slapped me in the face because she was a drunken idiot, better believe she will be restrained.
        Threeve) Its people like you that encourage people to do things they shouldnt be allowed to get away with, like talking ***** to (or trying to gey physical) cops and expecting no blowback, all because your some delicate individual snowflake whos feelings and emotions should never be impeded on. Go watch "My super sweet 16" and be quiet.
        • jeff4379, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3That was not a chokehold...that was an arm around the neck with his forearm across her neck.
        • r337ard, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1"A) A chokehold is excessive force? Have you ever been in a chokehold? its restraint, not excessive force. "
          Have you ever been in a chokehold? It would seem not if you think it's restraint. There are a dozen other ways to restrain somebody without trying to knock them unconscious. Really man, get a grip on reality. If you choke someone out, you're cornering them. They're going to fight back out of basic instinct, it's the stupidest thing you can do to try and contain a situation and is only warranted if you're own life or well being is in danger. Don't even try to pretend that a skinny 13 year old with a skateboard is a threat to a cop twice his size & trained in unarmed combat.
      • kindrobot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I think this cop DID use excessive force in this case, BUT restraint is NOT assault. I've been attacked and cornered by a woman in the presence of 4 other women who stood there and did nothing. When I held her down (she was hitting me in the head with one of those thick crystal drinking glasses you need to be Hulk Hogan to break.. it had to stop, period) I was accused later of "beating her". I never hit her and never would, but restraining someone is not battery or assault. If I grabbed her by the neck in the process, then that's violence. You can't injure people, no matter who or what you are, and expect them to stand there and take it repeatedly. Forget what they say later, you must protect your head from the hard object. Sometimes those injuries stick around.

        All of that said, it's clear the cop was on an adrenaline rush and out of control. He was even being addressed as "sir" by one of the kids he eventually cuffed, and the kid never raised his voice or tried to run. Even after he was cuffed, he still addressed him as sir and did not verbally or physically assault him. Go watch it again and pay attention to those bits. You may be right about the differences between assault and restraint, but clearly something else was going on with this cop. No-one is perfect, but not every job comes with that much control and power.

        The police need to hire fewer pit bulls like this guy and more German Shepherds. If I adopt a pit bull and it bites someone, I'm the guy responsible. They know who they're hiring.
    • Noddegamra, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6"If a law is stupid, go through the proper channels to get it changed, dont break it"
      This is the one argument that I cannot stand. Proper channels? Mind telling me just what the proper channels are? If it's writing to your congressman, good luck. I have doubts that they actually read the letters and take them into consideration. Rally a group together to collectively pressure for a change? That only works when the amount of adults exceeds the amount of minors supporting it, because in government, the opinions of minors is worthless.
      As for not breaking it, what would YOU personally do if the law commanded you to do something that you viewed as highly unethical? And if you didn't, a huge fine and jail time. Laws are not always (or some say, hardly ever) based on reason or personal ethics. By the same standard, laws should not dictate what is moral.

      You may have suggested it as an alternative way to changing laws, but it simply doesn't work.
      • wukang, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I think you misunderstood conwaysb0718's argument; he didn't say that laws are always based on reason or personal ethics. In fact, his acknowledgment of "stupid laws" implies the exact opposite. I do agree with you that it's difficult to go through the proper channels to change laws, but breaking the existing laws because you don't agree with them is hardly the solution. Skateboarding isn't a crime, but resisting arrest is. I'm a law abiding citizen, and I expect other people to obey the law as well. If people start ignoring laws and officers, this society will fall apart.
      • Akaricloud, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Noddegamra, the "DO NOT SKATE HERE" sign is most likely a by law, set by a local level of government. It was/is most likely put in place is to;
        A) prevent injuries (I don't care what you say, a kid scooting down the sidewalk of a street on a skateboard will be dangerous, especially when there was half a dozen of them doing it)
        B) Prevent law suits on everyone's behlaf. Now aways, if a person was injured by a skateboarder, they would file law suits against anything that moved. Ie. The local council for being negligent
        C) Prevent damage to public property. Rails, ledges, benches etc. These all get damage when people try and trick off them, and believe it or not, you would all be bitching AGAIN when you as a TAX PAYER had to pay to have these maintained and/or replaced
        D) In reference to the proper channels comment. As I said, this rule most likely is a by-law set by local government. I can guarantee you, that if it was justifiable to have the by-law removed; I am talking about having a large backing of signatures to support the idea that a large amount of people feel the law is unjust, along with a proper substitute. Ie. The rally group who request this by-law be removed will pay for the maintainance of all property which is damaged by the action of skateboarders in that area etc.

        "what would YOU personally do if the law commanded you to do something that you viewed as highly unethical?"
        Just because to YOU the law is unethical, does not mean that to a majority of the rest of the community holds the same ideals as you.
        As an example. I might feel that it is highly unethical for there to be a law against speeding; (I don't) That would just be my opinion on it. A majority of the community would feel the opposite to me on it. Therefore the law is just and should stay, and as a mature person I would RESPECT the values of the rest of the community and follow suit. If not, I would find others in my situation, form a rally group, obtain media attention and any political backing and then try to have the law changed. Thus, I am acting through the correct channels and not being immature and breaking the law just to make a point because I don't like the law/rule. Going back to my example, would me driving as fast as I wished on the road, putting others in danger be a mature and justifiable way of getting things done? Or perhaps if I got my entire rally group to speed as fast as we could along the roads just to make a point (I would probably be shooting myself in my own foot :p)

        Ok, thats 4 comments responded to. Time to send out a whatpulse
    • airforceteacher, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Unfortunately, a law against skateboarding is going to be hard to overturn, regardless of how unreasonable it really is. Who wants it overturned - people too young to vote. People old enough to vote and fight for it simply won't care about it enough to overturn it. Noone above the age of 25 is even gonna hear the message. My son wanted to get the rules against "pocket rockets" changed in our town, and he got nowhere.
      • Akaricloud, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The reason the law is there is simply because it is to prevent damage to public property. Such as rails, park benches and ledges.
        I can just see another article having come up before about TAX PAYERS having to pay for damage caused to public property by (as the digg community would then have labeled them) "Young ***** skateboarding kids"

        Everyone is always so keen to jump on the bandwagon without looking both ways.
    • skulljar, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4This cop went out of his mind. He was running around like an idiot through traffic. This was a crowded city street and these kids were not going to assault him with their skateboards, so he had no reason to defend himself so excessively. There was no justification. These are kids, not criminals. Yes they could hurt someone when their skateboards fly away from them on a ***** ollie and smoke someones ankle, yes it's against the rules, yes the kids are acting like assholes. When kids start talking ***** to you as a cop, you have to put up with it to a certain degree and not engage in hysterics. If the cop is authorized to choke hold these kids, then he should be authorized to issue a public spanking to these kids. Kids like to talk a lot of *****, but if the cop just tells them to go, they usually do. Let them talk ***** all day.
    • baucat15, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1No wonder everyone buried your comment....ur an idiot!
    • zomgwaffles, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Yes, be a good little american and do what you're told. SHEEP ! ! That's what you are, this is America "Land of the Free", it's not supposed to be overcontrolled by police who on the average have a very low I.Q. as this makes them easier to control.

      On a separate note, those kids were half-retarded, i'm from Baltimore and when we skate if the police chase one of you the others should run the other way, they will stop chasing you eventually as you have not commited a serious enough crime for them to "call in all cars" or send out the "whirly bird". If you can't out run one police officer then you need to eat your wheaties son.
    • wukang, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I agree with you, Conwaysb0718, but I think your strong words may have put off a lot of diggers, causing them to irrationally bury your comment. It scares me that some people are even promoting the idea of assaulting the police. There may be bad cops out there, but I have to side with the police on this one. Resisting arrest should not be treated lightly, and I hope those kids learned their lesson.
    • Akaricloud, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Conway, at least I tried to bring you back from the depths of the Digg ocean. Kudos to you for actually posting an informative and more or less unbiased comment.

      More posts such as yours are needed here on digg. Well done.
  • r00tdem0n, on 10/11/2007, -15/+299Police abusing their power? thats a first ..........
    • Renton, on 10/11/2007, -9/+24But it's with white people this time.
      • Louie510, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Don't forget about the Seattle WTO Protest.
    • TheCount, on 10/11/2007, -15/+314 year old kids acting like tough guys, that's also a first. Maybe it's just me, but those kids needed an asswhooping. The cop is obviously an *****, but you're a kid, he's got a gun, shut the ***** up and move on. You think anything you say in that moment will cause him to have a revelation about everything he's done wrong in his life?
      • Louie510, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2"If you would of stopped when I asked you to, this wouldn't have happened."
        This is the mark of an enslaved society, not a free one.
        "All you gotta do is do what tells ya, and I wouldn't have to choke hold strangle you."
        • TheCount, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2You missed my point entirely. They kids aren't freedom fighters, they're a bunch of 14 year olds that don't know when to leave well enough alone.
        • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Louie510, how's that copy/paste working for you? By the way, this in not an enslaved society. An enslaved society has no recourse against such actions, whereas we have a judical system to fight these things. Look it up.
    • babyeater89, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6why should he be all powerful just because he has a gun hes not infallible hes not the pope he was out of line and the youth were right in their actions because skateboarding is not a crime
      • phike, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Actually, in this town skateboarding is a crime.........not trying to defend the cop or anything, but that statement is inacurate.
  • honestlywhagwan, on 10/11/2007, -49/+32***** THE POLICE!
    • DaveV, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12Remember, the police is the only thing keeping people like me from killing people like you.
      • brutalentropy, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5Wow, good show at being a psycho there Mr. Internet Tough Guy.

        The only thing that stops me from killing people is my sense of right vs. wrong, the police have nothing to do with it. You should try having a sense of ethics, maybe you'd be less angry (and more happy about the type of person you are).
        • DaveV, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2People like him, and you are too stupid to live, but it is against the law to kill you. Remember that.
        • brutalentropy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2And people like you should be in a ***** straight jacket. Moron.
      • babyeater89, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2kudos to u very correct cops dont stop any crime from happening they just catch the bad guys
      • rabbitt, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Actually, that's not entirely true. Police enforce laws only in the presence of crime, or after a crime has been committed (if they are made aware of it). Now if you were stupid enough to attempt to kill someone in the presence of police, then yeah - they would likely (not definitely) prevent you from committing the act. However, chances are that if you were intent on killing someone you would do it in a manner that would prevent the police from knowing about it (at least during the commission of the act). So, long story short - having police != no perpetration of crime.
    • peagle, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Shouldn't you be listening to some Linkin Park or something?
    • abiding99, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8...coming straight from the underground?
    • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5... UNTIL MY CAR IS BROKEN IN TO AND MY DOG IS RAPED. THEN I CALL THE WAAAPOLICE
  • colonels1020, on 10/11/2007, -27/+51What is wrong with our police force?
    • marnaq, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6Police Farce.
    • jtscira, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Nothing is wrong with it. But in everything you will have this type of idiot abusing his power.
    • Moocat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7A few bad apples ruin it for the bunch. The problem is when people make rank and then get to tell everyone else things like this are ok, perpetuating a cycle of incompetence and violence. Basic training is the purest thing you'll find in any enforcement service (police, military or otherwise), but once they are released, they start coming under peer pressure to act and behave a certain way. Some give in and become like this unfortunately. Don't hate the police, hate the people.
    • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Lack of high enough salaries to attract quality, dedicated officers is part of the problem.
    • neuralzen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Cops just need to remember that we are all human beings and have integrity. Don't immediately resort to threats or violence when people don't do what you want, TALK TO THEM. This video could have just been a friendly chat with a cop asking them to not skate in the restricted areas. Had he talked to them like a human being, with empathy, this would not have happened and he wouldn't not be on leave.
      • kinerry, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1He DID talk to them, the video was edited...or hadn't you noticed that part?
    • jabob, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Everything.
    • Forestmb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Nothing.

      THIS JUST IN: Local cop conducts a routine traffic violation.
      BREAKING NEWS: Police force patrols neighborhoods as usual
      OMFGWTF: Cop goes to schools to educate children on crime and consequences

      These things happen EVERY DAY by countless law enforcement officials, but who wants to talk about that? Once every now and then a guy gets over his head and all of a sudden the entire police force of every district in the United States is corrupt.
    • JCDenton513, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2We're actually supposed to call it the service now. Official vocab guidelines state that force is too aggressive.
  • hippykiller, on 10/11/2007, -53/+12Ok, how the hell did this make it to the front page again?
    • ceralor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Never seen this video on here.
    • greydream, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Because it's important.
    • ryansmith18, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2This was news yesterday, and unfortunately it is the nature of Digg to post the same stuff over and over.
    • normlsparky, on 05/04/2008, -0/+1it made it to the front page because it is a glaring example of police state mentality. not to mention video evidence of a cop taking his frustrations out on some kids. i would have busted that fat ass in his mouth if i would have been there.
  • derricklorah, on 10/11/2007, -19/+33this is on the front page of videos...
    • nihility, on 10/11/2007, -5/+20Digg has a video section?
    • lieutenantmudd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Just because the medium is a video doesn't mean it isn't news. What makes more sense? Breaking Digg down by medium or by type of content?

      So if a newspaper wrote an article about this video, that belongs on the frontpage, but the original source doesn't belong here?
    • STARTSOMETHING, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1yeah i know like 2 days ago
    • dlsspy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I found the video posting because someone sent me the video and I tried to post it myself.

      It did not come through my RSS feed however. To that extent, having a content categorization separate posts both by topic and medium definitely doesn't help anyone. The only perceived value is that people can complain about a video not being posted to the video section.
      • Sandurz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Actually, due to the installation of the Video section, the News Top 10 isn't filled with random "hilarious" videos anymore.
  • peabody624, on 10/11/2007, -19/+8http://www.digg.com/videos/sports/Cop_assaults_and_arrests_teens_for_skateboarding
  • fxspec06, on 10/11/2007, -22/+50I watched this a few minutes before I saw it on Digg. What an awful thing to go through for riding a skateboard. What would the cop rather these kids do? Play violent video games? I wonder what Jack Thompson would say about these kids ...
    • Drakk0n, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9You have to wonder? It was Tony Hawk that caused this...

      ;)
      • pcronin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Nope! Tony's not to blame! It's BAM!!! BAM is the one that started the mayhem in the Hawk games!!! Tony just wants peace!

    • pencilneck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4They were playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater before all this happened. Jack is right! And fat people use to be skinny people who played Pac Man.
    • uknowwhoibe, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Skate or Die is to blame...you know, repressed memories of jumping water puddles for an extra 2 points.
  • pyper, on 10/11/2007, -31/+13The Duping on digg is getting crazy this was posted yesterday in the video section (where it belongs)
    http://www.digg.com/videos/sports/Cop_assaults_and_arrests_teens_for_skateboarding

    some interesting comments in there.
    • Laxaloot, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12maybe if the friggin video section would intertwine with the rest of digg that wouldn't happen. I personally don't understand why the top videos don't go into the front page of digg just like the rest of digg.
  • Samji, on 10/11/2007, -17/+2Gosh. The cops aren't all like that in "Arkansaw" are they?
  • dustblaaze, on 10/11/2007, -17/+28They live in Arkansas...I can understand why the cop was so aggressive with these kids. Its the Reno 911/Super Troopers mentality with these cops looking for the smallest excuse to bust somebody, he needed his adrenaline fix for the day.

    Also, dugg because you linked to TheHundreds!
    • SnuKs, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1hypebeast?
    • garyh84, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Dude, it's Hot Springs. Although not many people live there (37,000) it is around a huge spring area which gives tons of tourists to the area. They even have people going there because some people think the water is healthier due to the springs. Eh, anyway, if it didn't have many people they sure as hell wouldn't have cops on bikes/feet. So your point that 'They live in Arkansas' is pretty ignorant.
    • techmaster7b, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1He busted them because they were braking the law. No skateboarding there.
  • d4vendetta, on 10/11/2007, -25/+46"Crooked cops, do they come any other way?"
    • arcangelgabriel, on 10/11/2007, -5/+7Yea, thousands of them.
    • SavageBlackCat, on 10/11/2007, -9/+7Yeah - dead.
    • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -10/+4LOL!!! Moron. You talk ***** now but who are you gonna be calling for help when you butt is in a trouble? Oh yeah I forgot you don't need the police to protect you when the ***** hits the fan. Right.... It amazes me how a few videos of bad cops suddenly means they are all like this.
      • SavageBlackCat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I call Smith & Wesson.
        • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1nice. I hope they place that on your tomb stone.
        • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3SavageBlackCat: blocked for a continued demonstration of idiocy within a single thread.
    • Louie510, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Yeah - crooked....er.
    • Chup4thingy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I agree with norman619, all 4 of you other guys are ***** stupid. I hope you ***** die when you really need the police.
  • usrlocalbin, on 10/11/2007, -19/+14dupe from yesterday. But i think more people do need to see this.

    Some day we'll rise up and against this ***** failing system we call a country. :(
    • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3wow... You went from talking about the police to a failing country. Last I checked the police don't run the country. You ahve to remember not all the police are liek this. Not even a mojority. They do a job you no doubt don't have the stomach to do. They are underpaid to put their lives on the line.

      As for your comment about rising up... That someday thing will not happen within our lifetimes. The american peopel have grown soft and complacent. It's too much trouble for them to stand up to the peoeple they voted into office and are now ignoring them. At some point we need to remember who our country came to be, grow a pair, and take back our country. I know there are some people out there willing to do this but not in the numbers needed. It's sad.
    • Louie510, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2"If you would of stopped when I asked you to, this wouldn't have happened."
      This is the mark of an enslaved society, not a free one.
      "All you gotta do is do I what tells ya, and I wouldn't have to choke hold strangle you."
      • Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2all you gotta do is not be a smart mouthed ***** and this situation wont escalate.
    • thoughtudied999, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"Some day we'll rise up and against this ***** failing system we call a country. :("

      no we wont
  • stopthepc, on 10/11/2007, -22/+12Now, now. That's not nice. The guy's a scumbag, but we don't have to throw the whole system under the bus, do we? I skated for 15 years, beginning in the early Lance Mountain days, when Tony Hawk was still a teenager (and quite awsome, too); and it was bad when the police would have us move on. But back then most of the time the cops would watch and be entertained. This is beyond the pale. You know what this guy's issue is? I'll tell you. When he was a teenager all of the skaters got the really cool girls. Aww Yeeeeaaaah. He's just imbittered.
    • MrSunshine, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1+1 for you. I don't understand why others digg you down.
  • Langford, on 10/11/2007, -9/+127This is what happens when cranky weirdos make laws against use of children's toys.
    • TheCount, on 10/11/2007, -9/+7They didn't get arrested for "just riding a skateboard", they got arrested because they couldn't let the situation go, when it was already bad. If you are an ***** to a cop, especially if the cop is ALSO an *****, you're just going to get your ass handed to you. Maybe afterwards things will get sorted out, but at that moment, the cop has EVERYTHING in his favor.
    • screwzluse, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5And this law makes sense. If you're trying to keep some area looking relatively nice, you don't want kids or anyone else scraping up the railings or causing a possible hazard to pedestrians in the area. I mean, it wouldn't make sense if it was against the use of tootsie rolls but it's not. Just think for a second.
      • Langford, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6If I might insert an alternate viewpoint, not all skaters are going out and damaging rails. If this were a case of people driving donuts on lawns, would cars be banned? No, they wouldn't. If it where a case of mailboxes being randomly smashed at night with baseball bats, would bats or playing baseball be banned? No, they wouldn't. Why should skateboards be treated differently then? They are treated differently because those making the law don't value them the same way they value cars or baseball. Simply put, those making the laws don't skateboard, and never intend to, so it doesn't bother them to loose the freedom to do so. Skateboards don't cause property damage, people do. If damage is being caused by skateboarders in an area, then it should be handled the same way as any other case of vandalism would be. For skateboarding to simply be outlawed on the off chance that someone might eventually maybe damage something, is weird. It's a toy and an inanimate object.
        • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Langford, as with skateboards, there ARE laws pertaining to where and how cars and baseball bats can be used.
    • screwzluse, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1 /sigh.... A double post from the new comment system. Delightful.
    • DenTPuzz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10I used to live in Florida, Tampa Bay area and I remember a local city (can't remember the name of it) lifted a skateboard bad for a week due to some extreme sports thing being held in the area. Skateboarders ended up doing quite a lot of damage, particularly railings and the edge of steps. It's more than 'cranky weirdos' making laws against children's toys. Having said that, if you are going to ban skateboarding in your town, you really need to provide an area where kids can skateboard without having to worry about falling foul of the law.
    • therealKing3, on 07/09/2008, -0/+0true
  • stklaw, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4What the hell
  • zelowlifeaiss, on 10/11/2007, -11/+54I participated in this event but in NYC on the 21. A lot of cops are fine, but there are a handful who want to power trip. And considering it was go skateboarding day I doubt they were trespassing onto near by property, because during this event the group organizing it gets permission from the city. But some cops just want to take things into their own hands...literally...even though the group was granted rights. And, even if these kids were in fact trespassing, the cop has no right to headlock 13-14 year olds
    • Wolfie351, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9The difference is, you can mouth off to a NYC cop, or any big city cop...but, a cop in a small town has nothing better to do so that is the highlight of their month
  • kinerry, on 10/11/2007, -32/+20They were resisting arrest and trying to evade capture after being warned multiple times. What did you expect him to do...say pretty please and then give up when they run away?

    They weren't even harmed.
    • CheckPlease, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Hello, Sheriff Buford T. Justice, did you ever manage to catch that Bandit?
    • glasnostic, on 10/11/2007, -7/+9Trying to keep your balance while a power tripping ***** has you by the neck and is about to slam your face into the concrete is not “resisting arrest”.

      The police often use way too much force on private individuals and then claim that person is resisting when all they are doing is protecting themselves from harm.

      For instance.

      Lay on your stomach with a 250 lb man kneeling on your back. Now when he grabs your arms to put them behind your back, you will most likely have a huge adrenaline rush going, which will fuel the very reasonable fear that if you let your arms get pulled behind your back, your rib cage will be crushed. Now the man on your back is clearly losing control of his anger, screaming at you, threatening to use less-lethal force on you, and probably hitting you.

      What are you going to do?

      Are you going to submit completely, and put your life in the hands of that out of control officer?
      • DaveV, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3*****. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. None of this would have happened if the kid had just stopped and talked to the cop. But, no, he had to be a dick.
      • Nodaki, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Same thing happened to me...I was tackled and being handcuffed after being pulled from my house. This fat ***** pig put his knee into my back...i got to my knees then my feet with hands in the air and stated..."I am not resisting". Pulled out the pepper spray and hosed me. Obstruction of Justice...resisting arrest.
      • Nodaki, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Same thing happened to me...I was tackled and being handcuffed after being pulled from my house. This fat ***** pig put his knee into my back...i got to my knees then my feet with hands in the air and stated..."I am not resisting". Pulled out the pepper spray and hosed me. Obstruction of Justice...resisting arrest.
      • therealKing3, on 07/09/2008, -0/+0that makes sense
    • DaveV, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Yes, that is exactly what the idiots expect. Unless, of course, they are a victim of crime, at which point it is time for the cops to break out the rubber hoses.
    • therealKing3, on 07/09/2008, -0/+0!@$^$##%^*)(&^$#*()( u
  • Piggycow, on 10/11/2007, -36/+16The cop wasn't abusing them at all. It was not legal to skateboard in the area and the kids obviously did not leave when the cop told them to. To top it off one kid tried to RUN away from the cop further escalating the situation. THEN the other kid starts to curse him off about the girl which is just a bad idea. It hardly seems like they got hurt THAT bad, if you can't take that you shouldn't be skateboarding
    • jackyyll, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Yeah the kid that ran has got a pretty good defense though... "I wasn't running to avoid trouble, I was running because I was scared for my life"
      • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I know, when that cop had his glock at their foreheads and told them that he had an itchy trigger finger.....oh wait, never happened. You must be referring to the kid shouting "I have aheart condition! I have a heart condition! Wrestling can kill me!".....oh wait, never happened.

        Seriously, "scared for my life"? You know the best way to protect yourself from an abusive cop? Do what the ***** he says and then take him to court.
    • footfwd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3If you can't take being "cursed off to" then you shouldn't be a cop, Really you would think that they would hire secure
      people who would be able to handle a few insults. And if you are regarding to the law as you were when you said
      "was not legal to skateboard in the area" then apply it universally. It is not a crime to curse at someone. And it
      is certainly not acceptable to grab kids that are just standing there, except for the running i saw no one resisting arrest.
      Did you?
      • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"Really you would think that they would hire secure people who would be able to handle a few insults"

        Cops and teachers are underpaid. Good pay attracts good people. Welcome to our society.
    • Louie510, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1"If you would of stopped when I asked you to, this wouldn't have happened."
      This is the mark of an enslaved society, not a free one.
      "All you gotta do is do I what tells ya, and I wouldn't have to choke hold strangle you."
      • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Thou art officially blocked, Mr. Copy Pastey.
    • huberous, on 10/11/2007, -0/+02 cops and 4 teenagers if they could not handle the situation then they should not be cops. if kids skateboarding is a problem simply take their skateboards and make there parents come reclaim them violence should rarely be the first action of a cop.
  • wadick4, on 10/11/2007, -12/+33Don't rights mean anything anymore to these cops today. They can get you for anything they want, and they are.
    • wheelerlt, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5What about laws? Don't laws mean anything to kids? I'm sure there's a "NO SKATEBOARDING" sign somewhere. But it's OK, cause you think skateboarding is OK, and the officer was over-reacting. I bet you're one of those suburbanite anarchist *****. Let there be anarchy - you'll be the first I assault and no one can do anything. YEAH GO ANARCHY!!!

      Officers are doing their jobs protecting you jackasses from really bad people. But you don't care. As long as your infractions don't count. But the second they do, and you're placed in the same category as everyone else, cops are the bad guys. Quit playing your video games and join the real world.

      I'll be expecting to be dugg down by all you socialists out there.
      • tearinox, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1i think that the cops are getting a bad rap in this story, however, it is kind of silly for a cop to go all extreme on some kids skateboarding. we need cops, but should the law be so strict?

        i think an essential change to our police system would be to concentrate on real criminals. police really dont have to go all out on a bunch of kids because they were skateboarding. I don't understand exactly what happened, even after watching the video, so a solid evaluation of the situation cant be made. these kids could have been harassing the cop, which would make a lot of sense.
    • mdkoch84, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2anarchy doesnt equate to 'everyone go beat someone up'. also, those that think cops dont have the right to beat kids up does not make them socialist. quit insulting people with big words that you dont understand and are using completely out of context anyways.
      • wheelerlt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2First, my intended use of anarchy wasn't for the purpose of beating people up. Anarchist believe in no form of government or institutionalization. Without laws, I am free to assault who I want without the fear of criminal proceedings.

        And socialists is a term I use for digg users. I've read enough comments to know who usually posts. Yes, I am calling myself a socialist, but I'm in denial.

        I know the meaning of the words I choose. And the fact you decided to write "quit insulting people with big words that you dont understand and are using completely out of context anyways." shows that you are unaware of your own thoughts. You say I shouldn't insult people, yet you call me ignorant. Please, *****. Go mouth off to someone else.
  • zyl0x, on 10/11/2007, -19/+20I don't know what's wrong with those kids in Arkansas, but if that ***** had happened to me and my friends in Canada, I would've trucked that ***** pig the second he started choking that girl.
    • AladinSane, on 10/11/2007, -9/+6Yeah, thank goodness for Internet Toughguys like you.
    • avisgoth, on 10/11/2007, -9/+6Keep on raging there internet tough guy. You just keep on raging.
    • zyl0x, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7Right, because sticking up for your friends when they're being assaulted by cops for no reason is only for losers. ***** you.
      • actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Funny, I'm a U.S. citizen and in many ways have considered Canada more civilized than us. But here, the way I would have stuck up for my friend would have been to instruct her/him to do what the cop says to avoid getting hurt or complicating charges, then acted as a witness in her/his defense at both her trial and the one accusing the cop of maltreatment. But hitting the cop with my skateboard first would have pretty much taken the piss out of my testimony as an upstanding member of the community.
    • peevegrider, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8doesn't make you an internet tough guy. comments like that are the reason cops do the things they do. In the USA nobody has the balls to just say ***** you to the pigs, even when they're infringing on your rights...yet you ask yourself why it hapens. Thats why I always carry around mace
      • crazykyle9, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I'd really love to see you spray a police office with mace...
    • heynoop, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5peeve is right. it's tools like you who ruin it for everyone else. you want to push your take-no-***** image around, and in turn, i get ***** with for no reason because the same cop messed with you years earlier and you smashed his face in with a ***** skateboard because you're trying to prove to all your friends how badass you are. thanks a bunch.
      • letsgopens2006, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1***** that....he chocked a kid, he should have his face bashed in.
        Maybe if everyone stood up to bad cops there would not be any.
    • mdkoch84, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@peeve
      what are you talking about people in the US dont have the balls to do that stuff? i personally wouldnt do it, but i know several people that have gotten 'assaulting an officer' charges for fighting back to the cops. its really not that uncommon, especially in poorer places with higher crime.
      • kinerry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hence why they work at mcdonalds now
    • SMELLtheGluv, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3You fail life
  • netferret, on 10/11/2007, -11/+28They should introduce ***** tax, this guy would be in the highest band.
  • kablam, on 10/11/2007, -16/+120SKATE BOARDING IS NOT A CRIME. Well, that's what the bumper sticker on my 88 ford escort used to say in high school
    • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4Skateboarding in a no skateboarding are is tho. :-)
    • heynoop, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4unless it says, you know, 'NO SKATEBOARDING'. then it kinda is. just sayin :P
      • brad016, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2go ***** yourself you god damn smart ass
    • johngault, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2it is where they tried to skate.
    • vanscott, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3"used to say" what happened to you? I thought you said you were hardcore.

    • Mthrsuperior, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Dugg for 88 Ford Escort
  • JoeBaynham, on 10/11/2007, -19/+14Well they were clearly breaking the law! Riding a skateboard is showing you are a punk and punks are rebels and being a rebel means you break the law. The fat ugly ***** who arrested them at the right to!

    /Sarcasm.../
    • JoeBaynham, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I mean had to at the right to.. xD
  • TheNewFlesh, on 10/11/2007, -15/+21I'm glad this video made the front page.

    That cop seems quite worked up. Maybe he's on meth like the cops in "Spun".

    I think the kids handled themselves reasonably well (besides announcing you have a photo of a cop ***** up, then running). It's terrible when people hate you because of an age/activity and then dig up whatever the hell they need to justify wasting your time.
  • ProfessorRiffs, on 10/11/2007, -14/+38Damn right I emailed em.

    p.s. dupes are going to happen, welcome to digg, shaddup already.
  • funkmachine, on 10/11/2007, -22/+91If I were 17 years old and impressionable, I might say something like "***** the police". But I'm not, so I won't.
    • talkingpidgin, on 10/11/2007, -8/+22***** the police
    • elsJake, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7i take it you've been already properly poopie trained by them ? All it takes is one choke now and one choke later and I'm sure you'll be happy to comply.
    • micahglasser, on 10/11/2007, -7/+7I'm 30 and I concur - "***** the police". They have no place in a free society.
      • crazykyle9, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Alright let's see you go live somewhere without law enforcement... say Iraq maybe??
      • DaveV, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3The police keep people like me from killing people like you.

        Are you sure they have no place in a free society?
      • doctordrew89, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Good idea! I was hoping that gangs,drug dealers,serial killers could move about freely in our society. Douchebag
      • r337ard, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3You may be 30 in years, but you're barely as mature as most 15 year olds I know. Your idea of a free society is anarchy or utopia, but I'm not sure which lame ideal you would prefer we all live in.
      • kevinwiz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1that is very extreme
      • Chup4thingy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Wow. Your a ***** idiot aren't you? Go eat a dick bitch.
    • DaveV, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7don't you mean "17 years old and ignorant"?
      • idonthack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm pretty sure the words you are both looking for are "any age and not brainwashed"
    • Louie510, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10"If you would of stopped when I asked you to, this wouldn't have happened."
      This is the mark of an enslaved society, not a free one.
      "All you gotta do is do I what tells ya, and I wouldn't have to choke hold strangle you."
      • cawpin, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1No, that is the mark of a dumbass. If they WOULD have stopped it would have over in a matter of minutes without an arrest. But since they tried to argue with the cop while they were breaking the law and then attempted to flee they got arrested.
        • ammisan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Right, because I'm sure if this were YOU in the cholkhold you would've had no problem with being physically assaulted by an officer and would've complied completely.
      • r337ard, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Arguing with a cop is not a crime. Protesting an arrest is not a crime. Least of all when a cop is assaulting people for no apparent reason.
    • badogg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1*****, I'm almost 34 and I'll say that *****. ***** the Police, *****, *****, ***** the police.
  • dylansbeard1, on 10/11/2007, -19/+32if you watch the video, the one kid ran from the cops when he was arresting the first one. im pretty sure you still cant run from the cops. he was pretty over the top though. i cant make a judgement because i didnt see the whole situation. im sure they did something to set him off like that. the video started running after he had arrested the first kid.

    and for honestlywhagwan, you are a ***** moron.
    • glasnostic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+27The courts have ruled that you can run away from a scene if you want. The kid who ran was not being arrested, the cop just chased him because he ran.

      The cop is like a sight hound, they chase anything that runs. Even when there is no reason to chase.


      • sexybobo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7first off which courts rulled that give me some links to those rullings. second off the cop was going to arrest him is why he ran.
      • Wolfie351, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7That's exactly what I though!!! Once the kid started running, it was like his primal instincts told