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i127.photobucket.com — A guy smarter than me shows his disgruntled approach toward Verizon.

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  • pooper, on 10/12/2007, -334/+47Wha? I totally failed math.... and I'm asian...
    • Nichevo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+426The two tricky parts are:
      e^ (i * pi) = -1
      The Riemann sum of 1/(2^x) from 1 to infinity = 1

      So it simplifies to:
      0.002 + (-1) + 1 = 0.002

    • jeffiek, on 10/12/2007, -9/+103@Nichevo
      "0.002 + (-1) + 1 = 0.002"

      Yes, but .002 dollars = 1/5 of one cent!!!!!
    • traviscaruth, on 10/12/2007, -20/+120and u took the time to do that...

      wow, you ARE my hero!!
    • jeeraz, on 10/12/2007, -87/+0You din't get it Pooper
      http://endway.net/web/dodged.php?ID=16
    • MrBabyMan, on 10/12/2007, -12/+289"What now, bitches?" LOL!
    • clubmasta2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+84In other words

      This math further proves .002 cents and .002 dollars might be different

      I think the jury is still out though
    • drathosX3, on 10/12/2007, -26/+1@ jeff

      ""0.002 + (-1) + 1 = 0.002"

      Yes, but .002 dollars = 1/5 of one cent!!!!!"

      yeah, so? a sheet of paper costs 0.000001
    • pwill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+122http://www.xkcd.com
      There's the guy that made it.
    • ssergei, on 10/12/2007, -48/+2"The two tricky parts are: e^ (i * pi) = -1"
      ...how did you get that that equals -1? The answer would have to be imaginary because i = the square root of -1. Nowhere in the equation does it become a real number. This is what this would look like in numbers: 2.718^(√–1*3.14) ...
    • marnaq, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32Dude, e^(ix) = cos x + isin x.
    • p337, on 10/12/2007, -33/+4@Nichevo

      After looking it up, I see that e^(i*pi) is -1.... interesting.. I learned something today! But, the other part doesnt make sense..... 1/2x as it approaches infinity is going to become zero, not 1. correct me if im wrong though... Only a freshman after all.
    • mathchemist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@p337

      That sigma infront of (1/2)^n means the sum of all terms. Thus, it is the equivalent of saying 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ..., which is equal to one.
    • BdON003, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1No, I forget the proof and logic, but e^(pi*i) = -1 Put it in a calculator(a good one) and it comes out -1.
    • RG13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19@P337

      Sum of an infinite Geometric Series = (a1)/(1-r) where a1 is the first term and r is the rate
      a1=1/2
      r =a2/a1 or (1/4)/(1/2) or 1/2
      so = (1/2)/(1-1/2) = (1/2)/(1/2) = 1

      I learned that...freshman year
    • Pigmuffin, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3You disgrace the Asian people! (I'm Chinese)
    • Mofassa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24My favourite part about everyone discussing the exp(ipi) is that it basically shows who's been at post-secondary and taken a first term calculus course and who hasn't. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but people here sure seem to like to point out what they think on math that makes no sense to them.
    • Sharp, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3I just love Riemann sums!
    • ryodoan, on 10/12/2007, -21/+2the problem I have with his equation is that he has included i in his equation which is a non-real number... and it really equates to the the square root of -1, not actually -1.

      Common, I had that in algebra 2 in high school.
    • digggggggggg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+53For all you guys who are wondering why e^(i*pi) is -1, the actual reasoning is actually extremely counterintuitive, but it can actually be derived in a few steps.

      First, recall that the taylor series expansion around n=0 for e to any power x is the infinite series (x^0/0!) + (x^1/1!) + (x^2/2!) + ... , which is a convergent series. (check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series)

      Then, substitute (i*pi) for x to get ((i*pi)^0/0!) + ((i*pi)^1/1!) + ((i*pi)^2/2!) ...

      Since i is really sqrt(-1), taking powers of i results in i, -1, -i, 1 for powers 1, 2, 3, and 4 respectively.

      The Taylor expansion we had for e^(i*pi) earlier can then be reduced to the infinite series i - ((pi^1)/1!) - ((i*pi^2)/2!) + ((pi^3)/3!) + ((i*pi^4)/4!) ...

      Now lets separate the terms to produce (i - ((i*pi^3)/3!) + ((i*pi^5)/5) - ((i*pi^7)/7) + ...) and ( pi - (pi^2)/2! +(pi^4)/4! + ... )

      Which, as can be seen on the page I just linked, are the series expansions of i*sin(pi) + cos(pi) respectively (factor out the i on the sine to produce a coefficient, and the pi is substituted for x in both cases)

      The sine of pi is 0, and cosine -1, so it's i*0 -1, which is just -1.

      That's all off the top of my head, so there may have been some leniency with signs and some hand waving involved... but hopefully that should explain it.
    • kelvie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@Nichevo

      I'm sure you meant infinite sum instead of Riemann sum, right?
    • pagit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+43How I spent New Year's Day 2007:
      Fighting on digg over a math equation on New Year's Day



    • oneshotkill, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0it equals the weight of one (1) tittie in its packaging
      we DO NOT accept returns on undersized titties thank you
    • snowelite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Verizon then proceeded to follow guidlines, and shutoff his phone.
    • numb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5
      @iamcitizen
      "There's the guy that made it."

      When I saw the check the first thing I thought of was this comic:

      http://xkcd.com/c179.html
    • SIRBERUS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The best part will be when they cash that check, and the drop-out working at the bank has to take a guess on how much to take from the account.
  • etechonline2002, on 10/12/2007, -53/+3well. i have no clue. im guessing it was for 49.99 sence its probably for ur internet
  • camintmier, on 10/12/2007, -3/+118If I'm correct, and I hardly ever am, that's a valid check. As long as it has the account owner's name, the date, the words "Pay to the order of" followed by the payee's name, the dollar amount in numerical and in written form, the name of the bank where the account is held (along with the bank's city and state) and the signature of the account owner, it should be valid. It could be written on a bar napkin, the back of a t-shirt, whatever. Obviously the mathmatical equasion counts as numerical and written form, so it should be valid in the eyes of the law. Check out http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/chk/20010320a.asp?prodtype=bank for more info.

    Note: I'm not a lawyer, and don't play one on TV either.
    • Progranism, on 10/12/2007, -24/+16Is an equation numerical? I don't an equation counts as numerical. Sure, it you can solve it to a number, but it certianly isn't a number itself.

      And in case, the result of that equation is non-real.
    • bigred, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14It's not in numerical and written form, since he put the same thing on the written line and in the numerical box. He would have had to write out in words the value of the cheque on the line.
    • admirabumblebee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+121I just checked with my mother who is vp of operations and head of the fraud department at a major bank... the Check is valid.

      In fact apparently, there's a lot of weird stuff you could do to a check and it still be valid.
    • debt, on 10/12/2007, -37/+11/(2^x) approaches 0 not 1 as x becomes arbitrarily large.
    • MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23It's a summation, not a limit, debt. It's a standard geometric series.
    • lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yepp,. I like the tolioet seat checks. Anything that is durable over an extensive amount of time and can be written on can be considered a check >:) .
    • rcholbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I really doubt Verizon would accept the check. While it's true you can write a "check" on just about anything and have it be legally valid, that doesn't mean the business has to accept it. It's legally valid only for your bank to withdraw the funds from your account when they receive it, and even they might not accept it from the business. Business have their own policies on what kind of checks they accept. Hell, businesses turn away perfectly good real checks every day because they don't have a check number, if you don't list a bazillion other personal details, or if they simply do not want to take your check.

      Also, the writing on the check seems a little super-imposed... like it was added on after it was scanned. Maybe it's just a lack of sleep on my end though. Happy New Year :)
    • vistic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@debt:

      It's a series though, not a limit. :-P
    • headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@camintmier - That's not totally true. Nearly all banks have a "terms of service" that you are agreeing to when you open an account. One of the terms all banks have is you must use one of their checks. So even though writing a check on a pizza box may be perfectly legal, your bank doesn't have to accept the check if it violates their TOS.
      It's kind of a gotcha. Sure it's legal, but you still can't do it because you agree not to when opening the account.
    • lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Banks, they do nothing! What shall one use a bank for anyway? If they don't accept my contracts for money exchange. What good are they? Better to not use the bank and contract directly.
    • cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2The business will probably accept it IF its accompanied by a payment coupon. You could write anything and they'll just put it through as the amount they expect it to be. Past that, no human beings will ever actually see the check.

      Now, if this was truly a payment due and IF Verizon got ***** and IF they didn't accept the payment, the bitch will be the guy who wrote the check after they bang his credit reports for a late payment.
    • Himself, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@cliffzdude

      IF verizon is evil? you mean WHEN verizon is evil?

      almost EVERYTIME I call verizon I have to educate them about something... features, services, fraud, the law, reality, justice, you know the little things.... I'd love to hear the conversation explaining the check to a billing rep... they're a teensy bit less dim than customer "service"

    • Crazytree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What does the Uniform Commercial Code say about this type of draft? HmM................
    • triskaid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@ admirabumblebee

      "I just checked with my mother who is vp of operations and head of the fraud department at a major bank... the Check is valid.

      In fact apparently, there's a lot of weird stuff you could do to a check and it still be valid."



      For instance... ?
    • underdog138, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@ triskaid

      The check technically doesn't even have to be on paper. When I used to work for Bank of America they told us a story during training about how someone had written a check on a t-shirt. It had all the valid requirements to be a real check.

      Then again, the chances of someone actually *accepting* a check written out in such a way is slim to none.
    • profOblivion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Amount in words:

      "Two thousandths, plus Euler's constant to the power of pi times the square root of negative one, plus the sum as n goes from one to infinity of two to the power of negative n, and 00/100"

      Somehow I don't think that would've gone through.
  • NORTHCOAST, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24and the media said we are failing at math education - someone obviously learned some math
    • derjazzmeister, on 10/12/2007, -3/+57yeah, except the rest of us have no clue!
    • ZeroLogic, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4And you've assumed that the person that created it, and the people that figured the values are the same nationality you are.
    • groceryheist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5VERIZON failed math education.
    • t05ter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15@ZeroLogic well considering that Verizon IS an American company, the check IS written out in dollars, and not to mention that it has "NEWPORT NEWS, VIRGINIA" written on it, I think it's safe to say that the guy who wrote the check was American.
  • CryptoFuseBox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Now that is awesome. I wonder if banks will cash it if you write it that way. I guess i'll find out when it comes time to pay my taxes :)
    • takeda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Just make sure you use series that converges =))))
  • esteban, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37Back story to this here: http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/
  • Dou6, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Lets see the back of the check indicating it was cashed.
  • heliox, on 10/12/2007, -31/+2I am sure they sent it back, and added a late fee.
    Buried for being an *****
    • clubmasta2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Is there a law about only writing whole numbers on checks?
      I mean...I'm sure there is...but I don't know
  • interpaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17The amount will get rounded up to 1 cent. So the guy actually gets ripped off. Haha. :)
  • rokinroj, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Who the heck writes checks anymore?
    • interpaul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Unfortunately, those who live in apartments. They are still in the dark ages when it comes to paying rent.
    • arantius, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2@interpaul:

      Nu-uh. I use my bank's "online bill pay" feature. I'm pretty sure they end up printing and mailing a check, but *I* don't. And, it does it automatically each month. I don't have to remember to.
    • johnpaul191, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3some utility companies only accept e-payments as auto withdrawal from your bank account. i know i have had one or two of those. no thanks! i have too many friends that had massive over withdrawals lead to bouncing checks, and the company that took the money never wants to refund you, just credit your account. when you are a college student and somebody like, say, the cable company or your cell phone provider sucks out about a year's worth of money... it sucks. anyone that has spent time on the phone with a billing department knows that the lower tiers of helper monkey can not and will not return money to your account. i had to fight with Comcast about a bogus charge on my credit card, and i never had an account with them (they were not in my part of the city back then). i got it resolved, but it took hours of phone calls, a police report (though i still had the card) and i had to wait for a new credit card to come in the mail. it was weird and once i involved the police they would not talk to me about who's cable i was paying for. seems like it would be easy to figure out the criminal there?

      anyway.... due to the inept utilities out there i still write a few checks. if you do not, consider yourself lucky.
    • Parasocks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Guess you don't get any.. I won't tell you why I wake up every day with cheques in my mailbox.

      Not everyone is an employee?
    • dralezero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can write a check if I want too.
    • Gatesophile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just payed Amazon.com for a book with a check, just for the sake of writing a check. :)
    • BeyondALL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, in Norway we stoped using checks a long time ago.
      I've never used one, and don't think it's possible here either.
      The US tend to be a bit slow on technology some times, it's the same with mobile phones and sms - years after europe :)
  • shoeshine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7That's ***** awesome.
  • tiga31328, on 10/12/2007, -63/+5This guy is an IDIOT! Maybe he thinks that he's proving some point, but is actually only lining himself up to get screwed, in several ways. Best case, they return it, destroy it, whatever. Worst cases, they charge him a returned check fee, because I am thinking in this corporate world when that check makes it to the bank they are going to return it. Even worse, companies, and banks submit checks based on what they think, and were told to key(enter the amount) it as. If Verizon deposits it and tells the bank it was a $1,000.00 then they will submit it that way to be processed, the bank might second look it and not, but who's going to waste their time looking at his math scribble, your just leaving yourself open to have bad things happen, sure, you can whine and complain later, but could still be out some monies until it gets resolved. And why, because you thought you were being cute. HAHAHA!!!
    • beg513, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32Dude, come on, it's ***** funny. Just leave it at that.
  • navi27t, on 10/12/2007, -22/+0smarter? not much. look at the rest of his gallery... all b&w artsy nudes and odd stuff... he is just a freak like all of us, just with one off fetish.
  • webwiz2600, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3Simple Calculus! = Funny as he||!
    • groceryheist, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8not even calculus. its just algebra.
    • Rorrim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Complex Analysis that covers complex exponentiation definitely isn't just algebra ...
    • cam503, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I was actually curious what level of math you would learn this in.

      I just completed Calculus I (Math 251) and I'm about to start Calculus II. Some of those symbols look familiar, but a lot of stuff that was said left me clueless.
  • Fanboy88, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5This is a repeat of a previous story. If you do not believe me check: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=verizon+math.

  • ssergei, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I would love to see the look on the tellers face if you went to cash that check.
  • gmarks, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I feel the same way as this guy towards verizon.
  • axecollector, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I enjoy the anti-raptor shirt...

    http://xkcd.com/store/shirtpics/
  • thefutureisours, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7not a very smart move. watch the dumb bank give verizon some massive amount of cash reuslting in serious NSF.
  • namutatya, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Anyone abusing a major service provider should be treated as a hero :)
  • jccalhoun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3As others have noted, this was not made to be a real check, but in response to the whole "Verizon doesn't know math" thing.
    http://blag.xkcd.com/2006/12/10/brazil-and-verizon/
  • Wireddd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17can you write checks in hexadecimal?
    • interpaul, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8how 'bout binary? haha.
    • Shananra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21"how 'bout binary? haha."

      Oh god no, they would try to cash the check for $110,010,001 or similar.
  • vagarach, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I wonder how many people at a bank would be able to figure that out :D. It is only high school level stuff anyway!
    • namutatya, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Agree, kill 2 birds in one check :))
      Anyone who hates their bank should start writing checks this way
  • glenJammin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12... who knows if this check was even submitted? the guy could have just written it and scanned it...
  • nick34, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3and arguing over the spelling in the headline starts .........................now.
    • abid786, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I really fail to see what is wrong with spelling in the headline
    • vagarach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7In the other parts of the world it is spelt cheque, and pronounced 'check'. Just one of the many things that the 'first' Americans saw fit to change from the British norm. Hence the countdown to debate.
    • nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2actually, both check and cheque are acceptable in American English.
    • Gatesophile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1damn English language and it's multiple correct spellings of words....
    • Uhrzeitlich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You really shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition, so the title is kind of wrong...I guess. Should be "For how much was this check written?" Or cheque. (Which, btw, Firefox's built in spell checker says cheque is wrong.) ::shrug::
  • MacsBaine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I'd laugh if they cash this for the wrong amount, higher than the payer expects. Then he gets over draft fees and has to go through the hassle of proving what he wrote.
  • DoTheFandango, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Funny, worth the +Digg, even if the math was really easy.
    • Schnep97, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Did you look at the first comment and the replies?

      I wouldn't say "easy"
  • abbtech, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Nice way to kick off the new year. I might do that next time I have to pay a bill that I disagree with!
  • Xavier1012, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4the .002 dollars and .002 cents story was submitted earlier on digg i think thats what this is about, here is the consumerist.com link: :http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/clips/verizon-doesnt-know-difference-between-dollars-and-cents-220362.php
  • Burmask, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Read this - http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-dollars-from-cents.html

    They made an error - you can't expect to get something for nothing. ID10T.

  • JamesMorris, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Or maybe if you disagree with a bill, you shouldn't pay it.
  • apu95, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4lmfao, that's awesome =D. Even though it's a simple math function, the face on whoever receives the check must be priceless!
  • orbit1979, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Regardless of what that equation actually equals, if anything valid at all, it still waste corporate time, and spites them. Something which most big companies deserve considering how much they ***** people over and waste their time.

    I digg it.
  • kamtsa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Poor nerd.
  • applebyte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So did Verizon actually deposit it? Did the check clear? Kinda moot if they just returned it to him.
  • kickcows, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3the memo part is hilarious. :)
    • ldavid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3yeh I saw that as well and I "lol'ed"
  • GKaushik, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1e^i(pi) = cos(pi) + isin(pi) = -1 + i*(0) = -1
    the sum of 1/2^n from n = 0 to infinity = 1/2^0 + 1/2^1 + 1/2^2 + 1/2^3 + 1/2^4 = 1 + .5 + .25 + .125 + .0625 + ...
    So the first term in the summation offsets the -1 from the cos/sin term.
    We get .002 + the rest of the summation, which converges to about 1. So they get one dollar.

    physics major ftw.
    • sworoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14it starts at n = 1, so the sum of 1/2^n goes to 1, and the check goes to a value of .002, not 1.002

      math major ftw
    • Himself, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2physics majors believe in multiple universes

      they're not big on lexicon either apparently

    • KyleGoetz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4>>physics major ftw.

      AHAHAHAHA. More like "physics major for the LOSE" because the summation is from 1 to infinity, not 0 to infinity. The summation is 1. Thus, the -1 and +1 offset each other, and we are left with .002.

      I hate it when physics majors try to show off how their applied math degree somehow makes them qualified to be right 100% of the time. It means nothing when you cannot even read correctly. PS there are some of us on here who have abstract math degrees ;)
    • m1ss1ontomars, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2wow you're whack. it doesn't equal to about one, it IS one, since it's infinite.
  • Thor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6He should use the formula provided by Verizon:

    35,893KB x .002 Cents/KB

    Then when the bank only credits Verizon 71.786 cents (or $0.72) the fun will begin. At least you can be assured that the banks know the difference between dollars and cents.

    Actually I'm surprised there isn't a class action suit in the works.
    • Himself, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4you mean like the v710 class action suit they lost? Calling something a bluetooth device then disabling multiple bluetooth features... promising one thing, delivering another.... bait & switch? fraud? fun!

      this issue is so much simpler. I'd have encouraged them to sue me for the bill.
    • koick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Thor: Funny you should mention that -- about 2 weeks ago Cingular sent me a little pamphlet that says by continuing service with them I cannot be part of a class action lawsuit, I have to directly sue them if I wish to do something like that. This pisses me off because I can see soon all corporations will force similar agreements if you wish to do business with them, they knowing that a vast majority of clients dont have the frustration, time or money to take them on directly.
  • arizonagroove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why did you link directly to the image and provide absolute no context for it?

    This: http://xkcd.com/verizon/ would have been an infinitely better link to submit because it provides context.
  • f2banshee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Too bad he wasn't smart enough to smudge out the fractional code just under the check number. now he's published he's account info to the world.
    • spoid_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was wondering if anybody else picked up on that.
  • kicelo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0here's the first call on sendspace, putfile made me click 20 times


    http://www.sendspace.com/file/lcy3w2
  • GenghisCon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Math is hard
  • broomett, on 10/12/2007, -8/+0That has to be the nerdiest, most virginal, most pathetic way to get sent to colelction and ruin your credit history ever devised.

    He sure showed Verizon!
  • wangaramus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0owned.
  • brianegge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I once wrote a check to the IRS in bubble letters. They cleared the check for an amount much larger than what I had written it for. A few days later my bank corrected their 'mistake'. Lesson learned: I can be a smart ass, but so can the clerk on the other end.
  • Parasocks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I'm in the adult industry, and recently there was some big deal made about a sponsor program who puts their pimp cartoon logo on their cheques, and some guy got heat from his bank for cashing the cheque.. I was like wtf? Time to switch banks? I guess lots of this happens in Christian America
  • andreo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1After listening to phone call to Verizon he can't hope to have them understand what is going on with that check. Heck they don't seem to know what the difference is between .1 and .001

    But even stranger is that Verizon insist that their math is correct and the rest of the world is wrong.
  • cinder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I do something similar for tips sometimes (but to be fair, they can figure out the tip amount by subtracting the two totals).
  • appleswitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://xkcd.com/verizon/ !!!!!
    This has been dugg over and over, I don't mind but they mess up the link every time!
  • Grayzie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0everyone is writing all this stuff about how much it equals it makes it even mor complicated than the actual check itself >.
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