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Bush: Olympic Boycott Would Insult Chinese
cnn.com — Speaking to reporters Sunday ahead of the start of the summit of the Group of Eight industrialized nations in Japan, Bush said he did not need to boycott the ceremony to show his position on religious freedom and human rights in China. Bush said if he failed to attend the Games it would "make it more difficult to be able to speak more frankly with
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- hotlatte, on 07/06/2008, -8/+28Seems like the right thing not to do to me.
- LeeSoong, on 07/07/2008, -22/+8Mr. Bush destroyed religious freedom in the U.S.A.
by making eveyone pay for his favorite churches
at gunpoint via ''Faith Based Funding''.
The forefathers would have been appalled by
the ''Dept. of Faith'' Mr. Bush created.
http://www.hhs.gov/fbci/funding.html
Mr. Obama wants to expand on this attack against the
1st Amendment by cutting NASA and science funding,
and doling out am additional $500 million of
citizens earnings to Churches:
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/presi ...
Do you belong to the official State Church ?- philiaC, on 07/07/2008, -3/+5Why is this getting dugg up? Even if you agree, it's still irrelevant spam.
- WoollyMittens, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7This has nothing to do with the Olympic Games.
- LeeSoong, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Bush and friends make excuses for the Chinese government - because they are following the exact same plan: Torture, elimination of civil rights, state sponsored religion, and not being honest with the press.
That is what it has to do with the Olympic Games:
Pot - Kettle - Black.
- biotch, on 07/07/2008, -0/+20Yeah ... I see nothing wrong with this move.
Public outcry about China is fine but something as severe as our President boycotting the ceremony would only deteriorate relations with China.- Spuy767, on 07/07/2008, -0/+6Seriously. . . This seems to me like an article stating, "Bush says, 'The sky is blue.'" being dugg up to the front page. Bush is entirely right here, it's just a factual statement. An official government boycott of the olympics would damage our relationship with the chinese and make everything that we buy more expensive.
- kris2pe, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1Well its already expensive so no point in kissing their asses!
- licnyc, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2But the US president doesn't normally attended the olympics. The fact he is going at all is unusual. This controversy is completely unnecessary.
- rpgmaker, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1On top of that, you can't bite the hand that feeds you. 'Nuff said.
- biotch, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1licnyc,
I see what you're saying...
But I think the controversy has developed because of the mounting public outcry against the Chinese government. If our Prez were to boycott at this point it would send a message to the Chinese that we werent willing to work with them through this. Regardless of whether this controversy is unprecedented, it does exist, and Bush has to watch his step. Further alienating the Chinese would just put up barriers to US/Chinese relations.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1"President Bush on Sunday defended his decision to attend next month's Olympics opening ceremony in Beijing, saying that to boycott "would be an affront to the Chinese people."
>> It is BUSH attending the Opening Ceremonies -- NOT a boycott.
Bush is showing solidarity with the government -- not the Chinese people. This is a huge expense, because Bush is the most hated American leader in history and requires the most security when going abroad -- so it isn't a LITTLE thing, that his little jaunt that does nothing for America, is going to cost more than the School Lunch program that Conservatives like to whine about for the entire nation.
When people protest Bush around the world, it puts pressure on our government to change its policies. I don't get offended -- but people who support Bush certainly do.
So your point is, that the people supporting the government would be offended, and the people who want it to change will be dispirited, and feel like "the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" isn't interested in human rights violations, clean air, and Democracy -- which is the BIG problem with China.
But this is totally consistent, because nobody in the Bush family has ever done anything to defend human rights, clean up air, or promote Democracy.
Bush is going out of his way to show support for Beijing -- that is a lot different from a boycott, which this isn't about.
- LeeSoong, on 07/07/2008, -22/+8Mr. Bush destroyed religious freedom in the U.S.A.
- babakdigg, on 07/06/2008, -33/+77Asshat Bush, the "decider", taking another misstep.
On the same logic, if you want to talk to the cuban people, why embargo them when you can visit them and talk to them in person.
***** asshat.- SIRBERUS, on 07/07/2008, -5/+42Dugg up for brilliant comparison.
It'd be refreshing if Bush would just admit the difference between Cuba and China is, frankly, we are fairly dependent on china. - Trav3133, on 07/07/2008, -4/+3What is an asshat?
- tacofarts, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7http://www.percywells.com/drawings/fparchives/perc ...
- LeeSoong, on 07/07/2008, -6/+5Buy Cuba !
How much do they want for the whole island ?- overridemymind, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4Twelve dollars and fifty three cents.
- TRScheel, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4You sure they dont want 'tree fitty'?
- hittnrun, on 07/07/2008, -13/+10doesn't matter what Bush does, you asshats will run to the other side and start your usual whining.
- CressCrowbits, on 07/07/2008, -4/+2Not to mention Iran.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7The difference between Cuba and China, is that the Bush family didn't lose a bundle when their mob friends were kicked out, and they lost oil rights for Zappatta, because their ships were used to invade the country in the Bay of Pigs.
The Bush family was FINANCIALLY harmed by Castro, and they've been sulking ever since, and making that US foreign policy. I'm bringing this up, in case anyone was curious as to why we have trade with Communist countries all over the world that we were once at war at and not Cuba.
- SIRBERUS, on 07/07/2008, -5/+42Dugg up for brilliant comparison.
- babakdigg, on 07/06/2008, -20/+9supreme douchbag.
- babakdigg, on 07/06/2008, -21/+12needs his brain examined with a rectal device. ok, i'm done.
- saxreturns, on 07/06/2008, -3/+3Next time put it in ONE comment!
- kineticworm, on 07/06/2008, -2/+2it seems like you had a hard time getting over it.
- whiterice0, on 07/06/2008, -26/+101This is the smart move by Bush. Boycotting the Olympics in protest is about the most asinine thing any country can do, since it's not the country holding the olympics that suffers, but the athletes who've trained for years to compete against other athletes under the spirit that while there may be hundreds of countries in the world, there's a single human race. The world should keep politics out of the Olympics. This isn't the first time a debacle move like this has been contemplated or done.
In 1980 and 1984, the Cold War countries boycotted each other's Olympics games. Sixty-five nations refused to compete at the Moscow Olympics in 1980 because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, but 16 nations from Western Europe did compete at the Moscow Olympics. The boycott reduced the number of nations participating to only 81, the lowest number of nations to compete since 1956. The Soviet Union and 14 of its Eastern Bloc partners (except Romania) countered by skipping the Los Angeles Olympics in 1984, arguing the safety of their athletes could not be guaranteed there and "chauvinistic sentiments and an anti-Soviet hysteria are being whipped up in the United States". The 1984 boycotters staged their own Friendship Games in July-August.- sk11, on 07/06/2008, -25/+11The Olympics aren't about some spirit of athletic competition, it's about money. If those athletes really were so sincere about the spirit of the Olympics, then why do so many of them use drugs to cheat in such a disgraceful way?
And why shouldn't people protest, since when did athletic contests, such as who can run the fastest, become more important than freedom and human rights?- WoollyMittens, on 07/07/2008, -5/+6Why is this guy dug down? Do people also believe in fairytales when they are told the Olympic games are about the "brotherhood of athletes"?
- sonycam, on 07/07/2008, -3/+5Huh? What about the majority who don't cheat? They don't matter?
- Sunnygurm, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3the point is the olympics should be about sport...not a political platform.
- jaymzdean, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2The reason it's always such a big deal for the country who gets to host the Olympics is because of the GARGANTUAN amount of $$$$$ that comes gushing into the economy.
Is this really being denied?
Have I slipped through the looking glass?
What the hell is going on here, anyway?
Is this some kind of sick joke?
China is a run by a fascist, Communist regime, undeniably guilty of gross human rights violations.
Am I missing something here?
- sonycam, on 07/07/2008, -3/+9I think he's talking about boycotting the opening ceremony, not the entire games.
- IHaveIssues, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2But he didn't mention his reason as being respect for the athletes as you say.
- tragic8, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1but he was also "looking forward to cheering the U.S. athletes." He said it was good for them "to see their president waving that flag."
I'm sure you will find a way to reason as to why cheering the athletes and waving the flag doesn't show respect, but I think most would agree that such a thing would be a good way of showing respect. I'm sure there are other things that would show respect as well, however.
- tragic8, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1but he was also "looking forward to cheering the U.S. athletes." He said it was good for them "to see their president waving that flag."
- rblancarte, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2RTFA before you comment. This is about Bush himself not going to the Olympics, not holding back our athletes.
Every point you make is good/right, but not relevant.- sk11, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I'm replying directly to whiterice0's comments and not the article.
- random19, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Yeah, regardless of what anybody says or does, I plan on boycotting the ***** out of the Opening Ceremony.
- sk11, on 07/06/2008, -25/+11The Olympics aren't about some spirit of athletic competition, it's about money. If those athletes really were so sincere about the spirit of the Olympics, then why do so many of them use drugs to cheat in such a disgraceful way?
- thurows, on 07/06/2008, -5/+31Besides, it's his last chance to party like it's 1999.
- blanketfury, on 07/07/2008, -3/+20I think 1984 would be more appropriate
- zippe, on 07/06/2008, -2/+13well, it would.
- 1kewldude, on 07/06/2008, -16/+5But isnt he an insult to all (or at least most) americans as it is in the first place...? I know i'm insulted with him representing me as my country's leader....Now if it was a sports event sponsored by big oil, well then, that woul dbe different....
- Dralha, on 07/06/2008, -22/+86Since China owns the U.S., Bush had better do what the Chinese tell him to do.
- philiaC, on 07/07/2008, -7/+14You misspelled Israel.
- Malacandra95, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4Israel isn't financing our massive national debt.
- allthosemoments, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2How did Israel get drawn into this?
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1They just have dirt on BushCo activities and use blackmail -- much more effective and cheaper than loans.
- philiaC, on 07/07/2008, -7/+14You misspelled Israel.
- Deist4Life, on 07/06/2008, -11/+25Bush forgot along time ago (or doesn't care) who voted him into office. The people no longer want him to represent us. He needs to go back to the white house, sit on his ass, play with his dogs, and wait until we find his replacement.
- Terrikus, on 07/06/2008, -18/+32It would have been ridiculous for Bush to boycott the Olympics. This is for the Chinese people. I usually find a lot of irony in the anti-China crowd who on one hand, profess to be on the side of the Chinese people, and on the other hand with rain fire down on something that is a defining moment in their history. Bush is doing the right thing in not antagonizing the Chinese people. Boycotting the Olympics wouldn't be a blow to the Chinese government, it would just solidify the opinion that Westerners don't give a flying crap about the Chinese people and will strengthen the control of the government over its people.
Chill out, the games ill be over soon and you can continue your crusade.- SpectreFire, on 07/07/2008, -8/+15Cause most diggers here are closet racists?
Come on, the fact that you're getting Dugg down is proof of just that. People are hypocrites and idiots. They're sheep blindly following wherever the trend leads them, very rarely do they ever think for themselves.
I mean, take a look at Obama, almost all of Digg was blindly behind him, but now that he's beginning to introduce policies that aren't exactly liberal and changing at all, people are starting to realize that not all's what it seems. All you can do really is just ignore all this bigotry and hate and take comfort in the fact that at least most of the world's population's fairly sensible enough to think for themselves.- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1"I mean, take a look at Obama, almost all of Digg was blindly behind him, but now that he's beginning to introduce policies that aren't exactly liberal and changing at all, people are starting to realize that not all's what it seems."
>> I think your concept of "blindly following" isn't the same as ours. You see, we "support Obama" enthusiastically while he champions our Progressive principles. And if he doesn't do something about the FISA bill and domestic spying, we stop writing checks to the campaign.
I can't believe you are contradicting yourself in your own writing and don't even realize it. This sort of Cognitive Dissonance that we see with people on the Right, is perhaps the most depressing thing about the past 8 years. I hadn't realized that you cannot simply reason with people -- but apparently it is a reality.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1"I mean, take a look at Obama, almost all of Digg was blindly behind him, but now that he's beginning to introduce policies that aren't exactly liberal and changing at all, people are starting to realize that not all's what it seems."
- tragic8, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1I agree with both of you, but I don't think Obama's views have changed at all. He just knows how to play his people and the media. He has proven that he will say whatever the crowd wants to hear and that crowd has been taught very well to receive a person with such ideals.
Boycotting the games would serve no good purpose and would not make a positive statement about the US or any one person. - kris2pe, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I think its a political tactic! I mean by saying these he unfortunately give an almost a subliminal message to boycott the Olympics! Well all know that everybody hates Bush. Saying something that he doesn't want people to do will ultimately make people do that what he doesn't want people to do!
VERY clever! - VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1Your post doesn't make sense.
You are trying to say that people who are outraged by the policies of the Chinese government are hypocrites, based upon your own "straw man" argument of reality.
Those of us Progressives, who saw the stupidity of Bush's policies and cowboy strutting early on, were not insulted and in fact felt more empowered by the huge protest marches that followed him around the world. I can understand if you weren't aware of it -- because the media didn't cover them. But half the police force in England had to be used for Bush's appearance there.
Words matter.
Bush is showing solidarity with the government -- not the people of China. And it is going to cost a lot of money to let him have this little fun trip, which is not required of him, nor is it common with other leaders.
If I didn't see the world get angry at Bush, it would have strengthened his control in the US, because it would appear that the world was OK with him. Many Republicans, though they like to scoff at the criticism of the French, are growing weary of being seen as "ugly Americans" who are less welcome around the world. We like to be liked -- and that is less and less the case. So it has had a subtle and powerful pressure for change of our government. Your point is the Reverse of reality, and totally at odds with how I feel in regards to our own government.
- SpectreFire, on 07/07/2008, -8/+15Cause most diggers here are closet racists?
- jfzimmermann, on 07/06/2008, -15/+7It's OK for the Lame Duck to insult Americans by being the worst president since Carter, but don't insult the Chinese Communists? Bush must have inherited a few defective genes from his Daddy! Who is he proposing to sell out next, his brother?
- esus4, on 07/07/2008, -2/+4worst since Carter?
At least Carter like Reagan had some good points.
Bush on the other hand ...
- esus4, on 07/07/2008, -2/+4worst since Carter?
- FrankHope, on 07/06/2008, -17/+10Of course Bush does not want to "insult" China. He's China's greatest admirer. Bush is a dictator in training and what better place to get pointers than Beijing. Boycott the Beijing Olympics.
- Terrikus, on 07/06/2008, -14/+12I'm no fan of Bush, but I'll stand by the Chinese people and support them in their moment.
- SpectreFire, on 07/07/2008, -5/+9Again, further proof of Digger's closet racism. What did he say that was wrong? Supporting the Chinese people?
God forbid we stand behind 1.3 billion of our own fellow human beings instead of barraging them with hate and discrimination.
I mean, it's only the 21st century, what do we think we are? Civilized? - bluezinc, on 07/07/2008, -6/+4This is more standing behind the Chinese GOVERNMENT, not the people.
- funkymoose, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7He said "Chinese people".
The Olympics isn't a political event, it's more of a celebration of their people, everyones people. Showing them off, and showing the world what their capable of. It's more about the Chinese people then their government. I think Terrikus and SpectreFire are right.
- funkymoose, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7He said "Chinese people".
- mateoberry, on 07/07/2008, -6/+7Agreed. The Beijing Olympics will be a great success, and the Chinese have every reason to be proud!
中国加油!
/American in China- DentThat, on 07/07/2008, -0/+7Why did that comment receive 3 thumbs down? *shakes head*
Typical elitist Diggers thinking it's trendy to diss China - ShadowFox06, on 07/07/2008, -5/+0Or maybe you two need to quit blowing Chinese people and just read the story.
- DentThat, on 07/07/2008, -0/+7Why did that comment receive 3 thumbs down? *shakes head*
- SpectreFire, on 07/07/2008, -5/+9Again, further proof of Digger's closet racism. What did he say that was wrong? Supporting the Chinese people?
- Ribbys, on 07/06/2008, -11/+4hypocrite. Talk to those that give us cheap goods, but not those that are oppresive regimes but dont supply us with anything eg. Zimbabwae.
- pennvneff, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3Zimbabwae? Is that anywhere near Rwadnada?
- WoollyMittens, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Somewhere below the Saharer :)
- pennvneff, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3Zimbabwae? Is that anywhere near Rwadnada?
- Shaman760, on 07/07/2008, -11/+5The offender is worried about offending?
Maybe he can move over to China and choke on a fortune cookie, or at least on Beijing's wonderful air quality. - ShaoKahn, on 07/07/2008, -14/+9China should boycott Bush.
- Rotzooi, on 07/07/2008, -2/+11They are too busy counting the interest on our loans.
- ricoboy24, on 07/07/2008, -3/+6If its for our nation and the well being of our "economy" then, ok. at least he understands the situation in china. and is not going there just for the ***** of it.
- mannymix03, on 07/07/2008, -8/+2no ***** Sherlock!
- kingsal, on 07/07/2008, -11/+16His presidency has insulted Americans. Maybe he shouldn't do that either.
- Dylson, on 07/07/2008, -11/+15Bush is an insult to the world.
- powerphail, on 07/07/2008, -10/+5I'm embarrassed to share a planet with this man.
- bluezinc, on 07/07/2008, -14/+6I don't think Bush understands why he should boycott.
China only steps on human rights, imprisons and executes citizens without sufficient (or ANY) evidence or even due process, and invaded a completely peaceful country on an ideological whim.
Bush calls that, "Tuesday".- bluezinc, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Jesus, diggers don't like Bush bashing today.
I'm sorry diggers, Bush is the greatest president ever and Dick Cheney should get the nobel peace prize.
China is a first rate democratic nation and a bastion of freedom where nobody ever does anything wrong, especially the government.
Happy now?
- bluezinc, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Jesus, diggers don't like Bush bashing today.
- wastedfish, on 07/07/2008, -4/+12The Olympics are insignificant compared to the amount of trade with have with China. It would almost be laughable how petty of a protest this would be.
- voleur, on 07/07/2008, -9/+3Right choice for the wrong reasons.
Saying that he doesn't want to insult China is so weak. China needs to be insulted to get their act together.
Bush's reasoning should have been that he didn't want to mix politics with the Olympics. The Beijing Olympics provide a great opportunity to discuss problems in China, sure, but it should be kept separate from the official ceremonies. - MewTwo, on 07/07/2008, -5/+12This isn't surprising at all, kids. We are too dependent on that country to cause unrest for those petty human rights issues.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Also, it's kind of tough when we as a nation haven't supported any principles for the past 8 years.
- passedoutghost, on 07/07/2008, -7/+1lol hypocrite.
- rsHoratio, on 07/07/2008, -9/+3So if Bush says boycotting would be bad.....that must mean its actually the right thing to do.
- tuxzsh, on 07/07/2008, -3/+28Bush is right on this one. Keep politics out of the olympic games.
- znicket, on 07/07/2008, -6/+6It's funny. If Diggers feel so passionately about this issue - why not boycott Chinese made products? Aha... not so easy now?
- trafficlight, on 07/07/2008, -1/+0Don't fool yourself, the Olympics is all about politics. It has been for decades.
It's the country-sized equivalent of mine's bigger than yours.
- znicket, on 07/07/2008, -7/+20It's funny. If Diggers feel so passionately about this issue - why not boycott Chinese made products? Aha... not so easy now?
- definedbywords, on 07/07/2008, -2/+5the problem is that it's not *entirely* our fault (by our I mean the general US population) that we are forced to buy mostly Chinese made products, however it is very hypocritical to boycott the Olympics but not have embargoes and sanctions to show that we disapprove
- thebaron2, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1No one's forced to buy anything.
For every Chinese manufactured product there is usually an American made equivalent. The problem is that no one buys them and that American workers get higher wages + benefits which translates into a higher retail price, which is a feedback loop that feeds on itself.
Non-chinese goods are out there, you just need to pay more. So it really comes down to the question "How much are your principles worth to you?"
- thebaron2, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1No one's forced to buy anything.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Well, it seems that a lot of "free-market" libertarians always promote the marketplace as if it achieved some rational betterment for humanity. Yet, at the same time, they belittle boycotts -- which rarely work. And I agree.
This should prove the point that MOSTLY, it is government policy that shapes the marketplace. And by allowing free access to our markets, from countries that charge 15-20% on imports of our goods, we have created great profits for a few importers but left ourselves open to trade debts. People with marginal incomes are always going to buy the cheapest goods -- so don't blame them for trying to get houses and bicycles for the kids.
- definedbywords, on 07/07/2008, -2/+5the problem is that it's not *entirely* our fault (by our I mean the general US population) that we are forced to buy mostly Chinese made products, however it is very hypocritical to boycott the Olympics but not have embargoes and sanctions to show that we disapprove
- painperdu, on 07/07/2008, -10/+5Bush is kissing Chinese ass so we can borrow more money?
- Arkonnan, on 07/07/2008, -5/+6Now if only America could find a way to change the locks while he was over there..
- Pusod, on 07/07/2008, -3/+7Wow! This is great! After reading the comments above, I think the digg community is equally divided on this topic! It separates those who just hate Bush and ones who REALLY, REALLY hate Bush with a passion.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Some of the people are only CLAIMING to hate Bush in order to have some legitimacy to promote his policies.
"I hate Bush, but... "
And now we have the term; "Bush basher..." which as a Progressive, I highly endorse because studs like us don't need Viagra.
Being against corruption, seems to still put people in the category of Commie/Hippie. But there is progress.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Some of the people are only CLAIMING to hate Bush in order to have some legitimacy to promote his policies.
- alanr19, on 07/07/2008, -7/+2I guess we now know who america's new master is.
Our commander on chief so utterly scared ***** to offend the chinese by not showing up?
These are sad times. - buckchoris, on 07/07/2008, -12/+7***** CHINA.
- mateoberry, on 07/07/2008, -6/+5***** YOU.
- buckchoris, on 07/07/2008, -5/+3No ***** you.
- Aliwalla, on 07/07/2008, -4/+3***** both of you
- mateoberry, on 07/07/2008, -6/+5***** YOU.
- brisance, on 07/07/2008, -6/+5I'm sorry but the Bush administration is in no position to talk about human rights abuses or "religious freedom"... that would be the height of hypocrisy.
- rajk0909, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1Hmm. But he had said that US might boycott the Opening Ceremony of the Beijing Olympics if not the Olympics in its entirety.
- mateoberry, on 07/07/2008, -9/+8President George W. Bush is perhaps one of the worst leaders in American history, and I look forward to his exit.
That said, he is 100% correct on the this issue. Antagonizing the ENTIRE Chinese population at this important crossroad of Chinese social and economic development is pure foolishness. Like it or not, China will become a major "superpower" in the future. How we choose to maintain relations with them now will have a direct impact on the future course of world events. Believe it or not, China continues to evolve, in so many different facets of life. Please do not be so naive to assume that Chinese do not care about human rights, religious freedom, media censorship, privacy, environmentalism, and the dire need for greater government accountability, transparency, and pluralism. People in China are all too familiar with problems associated with government power and corruption. As China continues to grow economically, and improve the status of living for everyday citizens, greater attention will naturally begin to refocus not just on bare social necessities, but on these greater issues affecting China today. This is already happening, especially among economically stable, idealistic, educated youth. They, more than any other generation, are open to ideas of change. They are the future of China. They are proud to be Chinese. They are proud to host the Olympic games. And they will remember how we choose to treat their nation at such an important point in China's history.
/American in China - reisrocks, on 07/07/2008, -5/+2How could human rights have anything to do with a the ceremony of a game that was first opened by Adolph Hitler in 1936 :p
- nephilimx, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3Hilter didnt have many anti Jew laws in place in 1936, the myth that is was a nazi country at that time is a bit exaggerated.
- toytoyota, on 07/07/2008, -3/+15Do you guys really think Bush boycotting the Olympics would do ANYTHING to fix human rights violations in China?
- WhoBob, on 07/07/2008, -2/+5au contraire.!!!!!!!! What short memories Diggers have, only a few months ago everyone was boycotting the games over Tibet.
How things change. - GordonClass, on 07/07/2008, -5/+7The Olympics have been irrelevant for years.
- Timetheos, on 07/07/2008, -5/+1"Bush: Olympic Boycott Would Insult Chinese"
Isn't that kind of the point? Isn't the insult supposed to spurn China to action?- ITGER, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Or trigger a wave of Chinese nationalistic backlash and anti-U.S. sentiment? Yes, China does some bad things, but a boycott would likely just piss off the citizens and cause the government to fan the flames. China doesn't have a real democracy, and so its people can't really be held that accountable for what its government does (We Americans on the other hand are pretty damn guilty about electing W, even if was only half of us).
- Timetheos, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1Funny, dugg down for stating the obvious. I didn't say we SHOULD boycott, just what the purpose was.
- daleok, on 07/07/2008, -5/+0Suddenly he is worried about insulting a country? He's been insulting the world for the past 7.5 years. 1/20/09 can't come fast enough.
- shufan, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Wow, I had no idea the North Koreans abducted Japanese citizens to teach their spies the Japanese language and culture. You'd think the could find another way to learn the language and culture... such as the internet...
- SaintStryfe, on 07/07/2008, -3/+3Boycotting the games is a bad idea - it's unfair to athletes who have worked so hard, and to the companies who have chosen to invest in the ideas of the Olympics, not where it's held. That said, boycotting the opening ceremonies, not giving the PR coup of showing up to the PRC's dog-and-pony show, that I would whole-heartedly support. Of course, Bush is a spineless weasel, so he'll be there, sucking the Chinese teet.
- billyfalconer, on 07/07/2008, -3/+1What's a little fascism to W?
- jesusfish, on 07/07/2008, -3/+7It's funny, all the Bush haters complain so much about him pissing off other countries and damaging relations with them, but when he does something diplomatic, they still do nothing but bitch. And the same ones would bitch just as much if he didn't. Fortunately, I don't think he has much of a problem ignoring these people. I sure wouldn't.
- solidcube, on 07/07/2008, -3/+2Yeah, well, they're showing up at his July 4 speeches and calling him a war criminal and saying he should be arrested. I hope it's still so easy for him to ignore it all when he's given the penalty that's given to war criminals, nazis and other filth.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1Bush offends reasonable countries and democracies. He builds bridges to other tyrants.
I think it is pretty consistent. People who embrace fascism, don't seem to see what all the fuss is about.
Sarkozy, Berlesconi and Mushareff -- NeoCon fascists. It's only his financial ties with Ukrainian separatists that puts him at odds with Putin. And then we've got him going against Iran and Lebanon, which are/were also fledgling Democracies.
- solidcube, on 07/07/2008, -6/+2This guy is so confused and pathetic it's almost lovable in a bizarre way. He is SO REPUGNANT. Everything he does is 180 degrees from the right or normal thing to do.
He's concerned about insulting the chinese now? I suppose he probably looks up to them as role models of what fascist dictators should be. - NecroSexy, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Olympics: euphemism for profitable spectacle.
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