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8 Most Hypocritical Christian Athletes

holytaco.com — Athletes are always thanking God for something, but sometimes those same athletes are the ones that piss God off the most. Here ’s a list of the 8 most hypocritically religious sports stars.

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crushallcakes, on 07/08/2008, -8/+14If I was a baseball player, I would pray to Jobu, even though he can't hit the curve ball.
- JohnnyRad, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3but you can't kill live chickens in a locker room!
  - djholybolt, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Let's get him some KFC, quick.
sdsu, on 07/08/2008, -3/+6Jon Kitna's not a hypocrite I guess, but I feel like any article about religious athletes has to have him in there.
gwgrayson, on 07/08/2008, -14/+52Buried. Only three of these are actually viable cases of hypocrisy. This is just Christian bashing for the sake of it.
- Rlodge, on 07/08/2008, -20/+8No it's not, don't be so sensitive
- suckanucka, on 07/08/2008, -22/+9And that's a bad thing?
  - kelly, on 07/08/2008, -4/+10yes
- kelly, on 07/08/2008, -13/+5You must be new to digg.
- jakatak, on 07/08/2008, -6/+18Didn't you know: Digg users hate
  
  Bill Gates
  Walmart
  George Bush
  Xbox Fanboys
  Christians
  and anything else that male 19 year olds can blame their boring useless lives on.
  - egoideal, on 07/08/2008, -4/+1If by boring you mean the perfect combination of sex, alcohol, and education. And if by useless lives you mean a damn lot more important than yours ever was or ever will be.
  - jakatak, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1How hypocritical of you. :-)
  - BrosDuCK, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1@ egoideal
    
    You forgot weed ;)
  - Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3Not so much Christians; if we hated Christians, we wouldn't operate well in normal society.
    
    What the majority of Diggers seem to get annoyed with is Fundamentalist, Creationists and Zealots. Essentially, the people who make religion look bad, who push decidedly erroneous laws to match up with their scriptures or push some kind of End-Times-Scenario agenda, or attempt to convert children by pushing their dogma into public school science class. They do these things only at the expense of others' intellectual growth and freedom.
    
    I personally don't have a beef with Christians who don't feel the need to quote bible passages at me every thirty seconds, or think that the Bible is a good place from which to originate public policy. If I've argued with you on theological terms, you've probably violated one of those conditions, and I've called you on it.
  - jakatak, on 07/09/2008, -1/+2Then that's what diggers need to say. Just what you said was perfect. The problem is the average digger isn't as educated in thought processes that you seem to have mastered. Not their fault. Most diggers are young still and have very little experience in the real world with kids and career and faith of any sort.
  - Fordi, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1Unfortunately, man, fundies make honest Christians look bad. I mean, specificity is all well and good, and I do my best to call a fundie a fundie or a creationist a creationist - but they call themselves Christians. I think the honest Christians of the nation really need to at least try and take the term back from them.
  - IPublius, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1@Fordi - I am what you would call a Fundamentalist (I believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible and all that) and I am a Creationist. How does either of those things make me a dishonest Christian?
    
    Tell me if you will, how you read Genesis to support anything other than Creationism? If you call it fiction (or metaphor), then how do you explain Moses using it as the basis for a seven day week, or Jesus using it as a basis for one man/one woman marriage for life? Both of them clearly understood it to be literal in nature.
    
    Also, how do I make you look bad? Where precisely do you get your ideas for public policy from?
    
    Public policy is about morals. It outlines what society feels is morally correct and what is not. If my morality is based on the Bible, does that invalidate my opinion? If I told you that it was just my opinion divorced from the Bible would that make it okay even if it was the same opinion?
yorkhock, on 07/08/2008, -5/+5I just hope God's a fan of my sports teams.
suckanucka, on 07/08/2008, -20/+9"Hypocritical Christian", isn't that redundant?
- superkendall, on 07/08/2008, -4/+1Not to the same degree "Bigoted Digger" would be, no.
  
  I myself have tolerance for both religious and the non-religious folk, both groups have plenty of excellent people. I literally am holier than thou.
- Bartboy919, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3***** IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
  - suckanucka, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Epic.
neopolaris, on 07/08/2008, -5/+26How does this crap make the front page?
- kelly, on 07/08/2008, -8/+6You must be new to digg
- JohnnyRad, on 07/08/2008, -5/+6"you must be new to digg"
  dude give it up, it didn't work the first time you wrote it either
rz8472, on 07/08/2008, -8/+2There was also the deceased Reggie White, a fundamentalist who gave a racist and embarrassing diatribe in front of the Wisconsin State Legislature in the 1990s.
- Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Just my opinion, but I think that God, if there is a God, would not appreciate a zealot nearly as much as zealots think he does.
  - slurba, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1Well of course the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't, he's a pretty laid back guy. Just don't piss people off, kill others, and steal and you'll be fine.
- chispito, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1It wasn't racist. I heard the speech. He said essentially that different ethnicities/cultures reflect the character of God in unique ways. To anyone who cared to take his comments in context, he was lauding diversity.
  
  If he had left out any positive comments on white, European cultures, nobody would have cared.
superkendall, on 07/08/2008, -2/+2Hey, never hurts to be polite to someone you are about to piss off.
DarknessGP, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3interesting, cause if you tried to do this list with movie stars, music stars, etc... you'd have to list every single one of them. Every award winner thanks god.
mitch77, on 07/08/2008, -18/+24Christians are not perfect, they are just forgiven.
There are no greater hypocrites than liberals
who are always extolling freedom yet suppress
every argument that disagrees with them.
What what the libs do to this post.
- beargrylls, on 07/08/2008, -10/+3"Christians are not perfect, they are just forgiven."
  
  Pfft.
  - kelly, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1Pfft. to your Pfft.
  - beargrylls, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Either there's a new Christian bury brigade, or mitch77 has a few accounts...
    
    Who's digging that crap?
- elliotys, on 07/08/2008, -3/+5What about liberal christians?
  - kelly, on 07/08/2008, -5/+2Oh... those are called hypocrites.
  - Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2A fundie would call you a hypocrite (Edit: hey, just noticed kelly there. Hey, kelly!)
    
    Atheists don't really care, as long as you're not trying to push creationism into science class, or push rather strictly christian laws onto society (which, if you're a liberal, you're generally not).
    
    Everyone in between would call you 'normal'.
  - mitch77, on 07/09/2008, -3/+1I must disagree with my friend Kelly..most are not hypocrites..or christians either.
    Assuming we are using 'liberal' in it's current general political meaning, 'liberal christian' is a sterling example of an oxymoron. So called 'liberal christians' deny such things as the virgin birth and the resurrection to name 2 of the biggies. They are therefore unbelievers.
    No amount of tortured logic from the leftist wingnuts is going to come up with an unbelieving believer. The simple fact is that GOD has set certain prerequisites for what makes one a Christian. and importantly GOD is the only one who gets the final say on our eternal fate. However HE did, in fact, tell us to judge those who say they are Christians.
    The "judge not" is an entirely different word that means 'to condemn for eternity'. This we are warned never to do. If I say to you I am a member of the YMCA or Lions club etc and you find out I have never paid any dues and avidly dispute the organizations rules, when you go to the president of the club and ask about me you will not be surprised to here him say, "I don't know him, he's not a member". This is not rocket science it is common sense. And GOD's word is just this clear on it.
    All real mature Christians will want Christian laws to rule our land. Virtually all of the founders wanted this. However this is blown waaaay out of proportion by the lefties. Christian laws do not mean you can't drink. Christian laws would not hunt down and kill or incarcerate homosexuals. They certainly would imprison those who have decided to have orgies in broad daylight on public beaches. Christians, real mature ones, would make prison a place no one would ever want to go back to just like the guy in Texas does. By being so harsh he creates character and a resolve in a far far greater number of those men to never do anything to go back. That is real compassion...not giving them weights, porn, air conditioning, color TV and telling them it's societies fault. Everyone gets crapped on and the liberals want to make everyone FEEL better. It never works, it just creates dependency and destructive feelings of entitlement. We are entitled to PURSUE happiness. We are not owed it by anyone.
    So called 'liberal christians' go about wanting to believe GOD loves everyone so much that they can do whatever the heck they want and GOD will wink at their wickedness.
    The Bible says in the last days there will be a great falling away (apostacia - divorce) and it says many will be turned away by GOD who think they are safe. We must all choose to believe what GOD has said about us and repent, and ask for the strength and resolve we need to keep repenting when we mess up, trying to do better while relying on HIS help. HEre is a great video that should be watched by everyone who thinks he is a Christian; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwbps9k5Dj0
- tufftugg, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty
  - Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3Oh, cool. Does that mean that gay people are free to marry where the Spirit of the Lord is?
- martynda, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4I don't think it's as much disagreement, it's more intertwining (insert beliefs here) with things that affect people other than you. You can worship whoever you want, but as soon as you tell me I'M going to hell because I did something that is against YOUR beliefs, or attack someone over beliefs *cough* middle east *cough*, I'll get rightfully annoyed.
  
  That being said... this article is utterly worthless.
  - kelly, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1As long as we both can accept that your annoyance doesn't change the claim... we're both okay.
  - Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1I can accept that my annoyance at your claim to my doomed afterlife isn't going to change, as long as you can accept that your claim to my doomed afterlife is subjective to your personal interpretation of scripture and your personal cognizance of its validity.
    
    That is, it's only valid within your head; most others - especially those that know me well - will disagree heartily with you on the subject - or (more likely) gleefully agree with you, filled with defiant sarcasm at what they perceive as your provinciality, and relate their similar destination.
    
    You know the saying, Heaven for the weather, Hell for the company.
- chispito, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5I'm a politically and (generally) theologically conservative Christian.
  
  You're over-generalizing, and you should be more concerned with hypocrites within the church than with those attacking the church. Most of Paul's letters are about, besides, theology, Christian housecleaning. So while the author is just a moron for thinking that it makes a Christian a hypocrite to think that homosexuality is a sin, his idiocy shouldn't affect us.
  
  Like elliot said above me, there are plenty of Christians from all sorts of political positions. The Bible is clear on some major partisan issues, but things like national economic and foreign policy just aren't directly addressed in the New Testament.
whiterice0, on 07/08/2008, -8/+17A little good old fashioned Christian persecution going on here? Unfortunately, what the blog author doesn't understand about the Bible and Jesus is the most critical element of all: We're saved by faith and grace, not works or deeds. So Christians, while in the process of being perfected by the Holy Spirit, are only faulted people who accepted a free gift.
- banmaster, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3And THATS why christianity is full of *****.
  So long as you believe in an invisible sky daddy who watches you go to the toilet it doesn't mater how you treat people, you'll still go to hell.
  If Hitler truly believed in god, it doesn't matter that he killed 6m jews, hes in heaven right now.
  
  How completely ***** UP is that?!
  - Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Hey, banmaster. Don't pick on the Christians. All religion is manipulative bollocks with thick layer of good deeds on top for appearances.
    
    Back on Christianity, though. Jesus never did speak to Hell at all, did he? Hell, as far as Jesus was concerned, didn't exist. His assertion, then, that none enter the kingdom of heaven except through him, and his other assertion that he was the way to eternal life - seems to me a little different than standard Christian dogma.
    
    So far as I can tell, acceptance of Jesus - or more accurately, emulation of Jesus' behavior (a truth seeking, critically thinking individual that would rather be tortured to death than harm anyone else) - would be all that is needed to have eternal life in heaven after death.
    
    Meanwhile, failure to embrace the principles embodied by the character of Jesus really only results in the basic oblivion that Atheists realize must be the case after brain death. No punishment, just finality.
    
    It helps that a socioeconomic view of behavior, combined with attenuation with the emotional states of others results in a decidedly accurate moral compass - you don't need scripture for that, just a keen mind and open heart.
    
    As for the fundies you and I so love to rail against (after all, they're easy to argue with, and since they can never tell when they've objectively lost the argument, it's a lot like a semi-cerebral zombie shoot-em-up; they just keep coming), if a heaven exists, they're never getting into it: intellectual honesty - being truly honest with oneself - is at the core of honesty. Their failure at that marks them for mere death.
- chispito, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0It's not persecution when someone is doing it as ineptly as this author is. No reward coming on this guy's behalf.
  
  If this were a political piece, bashing conservatives, people would suspect he was a Rove plant.
- dildoolielly, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1--------------A little good old fashioned Christian persecution going on here? -----------------
  
  Wow you Christians are so persecuted aren't you!
  
  You're just the weak little kids cowering at the feet of the big bad Atheists from the way you talk.
  
  I don't know if you just got back from your space trip, But you know what? Christians have taxless insane asylums on just about every corner of America preaching death and destruction to millions of people on as many corners as possible re-affirming their superstitious beliefs of disturbing stories of hell and damnation and devils and eternal suffering and ramming them down the throats of unsuspecting children.
  
  Its is because of Christians that the GOP have had the majority of the political power in this country for the last 8 fvcking years so I think, wait...yes that's correct, you are todays grand prize winners of a lifetime supply of "Shut The ***** Up!" It goes great with pork and and hot air!
  
  Believe whatever you like, but if you want me to believe it then provide evidence or expect mockery and ridicule. Do not expect polite debate. Religion has been given too much liberty to murder and enslave humans while hidden in the garb of "Faith". It and whoever believes it does not deserve to pick the fecal matter from my ass. Politeness is out the door by far by now.
  
  I don't give a damn what brand of ***** anyone believes until those beliefs begin to turn into laws and campaign platforms, you've overstepped the boundry separating church from state. Thats what happening in this country. Don't expect politeness, Nutbars.
  
  It is a chilling fact that most of the world's leaders believe in nonsensical fairytales about the nature of reality. They believe in Gods that do not exist, and religions that could not possibly be true. We are driven to war after war, violence on top of violence to appease madmen who believe in gory mythologies.These men are called Christians, Muslims and Jews.
LiceHelpDotCom, on 07/08/2008, -4/+31Everyone is a hypocrite. Everyone.

I am not defending Christians or anyone, I am just saying that everyone is a hypocrite.

If I can spend enough time with you, I can find your hypocrisy...and you mine.
- gavroche, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1You hypocrite.
- chispito, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2That's actually a very biblical, and even Calvinist, stance. The "T" in the famous TULIP acronymn stands for the "Total depravity of man," which means that everything about us is negatively influenced by the Fall (Adam eating the fruit) and apart from God we have no hope of ever being perfect human beings (this perfection isn't attained in this life, obviously).
  
  Of course, what you're saying should be obvious to anyone.
- Nation, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1There is a difference between the definition of "hypocrite" and someone who "fails to achieve their goals".
  
  I believe the spirit of what you are saying LiceHelpDotCom is correct, but the fundamental thing about "hypocrite" is not failure, it's deceit .... stating what you believe (falsely) and doing something else. Everyone striving to be a better person can state "This is the best way to live" and not live up to that ... it's when they lie about your beliefs you are a hypocrite.
elliotys, on 07/08/2008, -4/+19Any athlete who thinks god gives a rats ass about them winning is an idiot.
flagg85, on 07/08/2008, -10/+4Dugg for gay dinosaurs lol
esilverski, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1You know what pisses god off?
- gavroche, on 07/08/2008, -2/+2Atheists?
  - whiterice0, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5No. That makes God cry. He loves you, and doesn't want to be separated from you, but your sin does just that, and without the covering of Christ's sacrifice, you'll be the one receiving the punishment. Something God never wanted.
- Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -3/+2Apples? Very small rocks? Cherries? Churches? Lead? Oh, I know, a duck!
  
  Oh, wait. Wrong question.
  
  Zealots. Mostly because they fall taxonomically under 'mean people'.
jasontt, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5Yawn.
slayernine, on 07/08/2008, -4/+18I'm sorry but I will not participate in your pointless hate of religious people. Buried.
- banmaster, on 07/08/2008, -3/+2Coz its so much easier to to take part in the pointless hate of people because your religion told you to...
chispito, on 07/08/2008, -1/+9If these are the eight MOST hypocritical Christian atheletes, then I'd say that Christian athletes must be some of the most honest, decent people. Half of the issues the author draws with the athletes happened like 15 years ago, before they were vocal about their convictions. A few are founded, but not what you would consider the "worst examples," for the most part.

And writers for "holytaco.com" must be some of the worst logicians and humorists.
kidfinesse, on 07/08/2008, -9/+3Oh Snap. Christians just got pwned!
JoeVet, on 07/08/2008, -8/+6Hypocritical Christians? Who woulds thunk it! Now all you good Christians tell me how I'm going to hell.
- whiterice0, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4Which ones were those? Or were they warning you because they know all to well the consequences of their sin and yours. No one can judge where you'll end up but God, As Christians, however, it's our duty as people who are supposed to love others to tell you of the great gift God has offered all of us through His son's sacrifice on the cross, and the consequences for not accepting it.
psogle, on 07/08/2008, -5/+1Why Jesus loves you - no *****
Wiini, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Makes it all worth it:

Jeff Gordon:
WHY JESUS HATES HIM: While he was married to his first wife, Jeff apparently took a right turn…into another woman’s vagina.
banmaster, on 07/08/2008, -7/+3ALL christians are hypocritical! Its as simple as that!
bobangitanov2, on 07/08/2008, -8/+2Christianity is a lie. Judaism is the true religion.
dildoolielly, on 07/08/2008, -12/+5Where do these Christian assholes get the authority to speak? Lemme guess, out of their ass?

I mean, comon, where is the proof of this "God" fella you idiots keep babbling on about all the time?!

Listen, 24000 people die EVERY DAY from hunger or hunger-related causes(preventable) 75% of them are children!!

800 million people do not have enough food to eat at this very moment even in this modern age!! (America is only 280 million people, so you do the math!)

5700 Africans die each day of Aids!!

We have Cancer, Aids, Polio, Yellow Fever, Influenza, Spanish Flu, Measles that wiped out billions and continues to do so!!

So why do you expect us to believe in this "Almighty God" *****?

Piss off!!
- tufftugg, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3Yes, people die everyday, welcome to a World, who wants nothing to do with God.
  - Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -2/+2The world at large is overwhelmingly religious. Which God is it that it wants nothing to do with?
    
    Hell, the 'overwhelming' portion all worship much the same god (that of Abraham), though in different ways. I think that if God is annoyed at anything right now (thus causing natural disaster, disease, and hunger), it's that this group of three distinct types of adherents, and the literally hundreds of subtypes thereof are constantly bickering and killing each other over which one worships the right way.
  - dildoolielly, on 07/09/2008, -3/+2"Yes, people die everyday, welcome to a World, who wants nothing to do with God."
    
    Ah, yes, a "God" who lets such suffering happen to people who don't believe in the equivalent of Santa CLaus?
    
    Seek help
mal1964, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Digg needs a tabloid section. So the diggers who want to read it know where to go, And the other diggers will know where not to go.
MastDane, on 07/08/2008, -2/+0God hates a player hater,

duh.
JQP123, on 07/08/2008, -9/+4Religion is a form of ignorance.

Athletes are not immune.
Mellimelvin, on 07/08/2008, -5/+1written well and very funny.
dse78759, on 07/08/2008, -3/+1Buried for no Mark Chmura, who is the definition of a Christian Hypocrite Athlete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Chmura

And Charlie Ward, from the text of the article , should not be on the list.

Does the author know the definition of hypocrite, or should the title be 'Christian Athletes I don't like '.
Oniobn, on 07/08/2008, -2/+5Just because an athlete thanks God for a win or says God helped them win does not make them a Christian.
Also, if you don't know the views behind Christianity, don't attack them.
lynx44, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5FTA: “I said, like, Jewish people, they don’t believe in Jesus. Does that mean they’re doomed?” Jon nodded, like, that’s what it meant. “I was like, man, if they only knew. Other religions don’t know any better. It’s up to us to spread the word.”

How is that hypocrisy? That's exactly what the Bible teaches. No, not "All Jews are going to hell" but that anyone, regardless of race that does not believe that Jesus died for our sins and is the son of God will not go to heaven. I fail to see the hypocrisy, its straight from the Bible.
- Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1Still depends on interpretation. "No one may enter the Kingdom of Heaven except through me" may mean through Jesus' principled behavior; that is, people who's best efforts to be good people approaches the kind of behavior Jesus presented through example gain access - in which case the statement *is* hypocritical; it's essentially ecclesiastical discrimination based on religion.
  
  You can tout that literalist tripe all you want, but the fact is that Jesus may have taken rhetorical license when speaking, in order to get the point across more bluntly, and have been misunderstood by his apostles.
  
  Yes, I know that the Gospels could not have been written, chronologically speaking, by Jesus' apostles. Let that slide for the moment.
  - acatzr800, on 07/09/2008, -1/+3"...the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
    
    "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
    John 3:14b-18
    
    Doesn't leave much room for interpretation there. It's belief, not doing good things that gets you into the pearly gates- and that's straight from the Man's mouth.
Congobongo, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3"I'll pray to Joe Pesci, he gets ***** done"
nopow, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3I really don't think the author knows any better. His "why Jesus hates them" phrase is a testament to his limited understanding of Christianity. Surprising that so many people would buy into this. Time to bury this hate-article and get on with our day.
TheZorch, on 07/08/2008, -3/+5"Buried. Only three of these are actually viable cases of hypocrisy. This is just Christian bashing for the sake of it."

There's never a bad time to bash Christian hypocrisy, because there is so much of it going around..

Stop Christian Fascism, vote for Obama!
Stevanoski, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7You may not understand Christians. Since all sin, all can be called hypocrites to some degree or another. Satan (and diggers on the Left) stand and hurl up accusations about us to God. God turns to Jesus, Jesus looks in the Book of Life and says "no accusations stand as all of my children are covered and the price has been paid."

Actually, it shows God's power that no matter the sin or act of hypocrisy he still loves his children and wants all to be saved. Compare that to the Muslim God that demands acquiescence or death. Pretty weak.
ancientshoes, on 07/08/2008, -5/+3well, this doesn't reek of anti-religious bigotry
benzzene, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3Do they have to be alive? If not, Hansie Cronje should be on the list.
TimTheSloth, on 07/08/2008, -3/+1Since when is "thou shalt not lie" in the 10 commandments?
- Fordi, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1You are correct: the commandment is "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor", essentially that you shouldn't lie when asked about your peer's activities, good or bad.
  
  Which makes sense when you think about it; early Judaism was much more concerned about maintaining order than dictating morality. The 10 Commandments were, essentially, the first law book.
  
  Me, I prefer not to lie at all, not being limited to mere religious morality.
  - mitch77, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Well there is that troubling little comment in Revelations that says all liars go to hell.
    But as long as it's not one of the 1st ten right?
    Willing to bet 'Tim' is pretty slothful in his obedience to the ten as well?
- mitch77, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Well there is that troubling little comment in Revelations that says all liars go to hell.
  But as long as it's not one of the 1st ten right?
  Willing to bet 'Tim' is pretty slothful in his obedience to the ten as well?
- TimTheSloth, on 07/09/2008, -0/+0Believe it or not I do not actually believe the Bible says it is OK to lie, just that there is no 'explicit "Thou shalt not lie" commandment'. I was merely suggesting the crazy notion that the author of the article should get a basic knowledge of of what he's talking about about before being so condescending toward other people.
  
  "I guess Pettitte initially thought the explicit “Thou shalt not lie” commandment actually meant “Thou shalt not lie…unless you’re talking to someone who was elected to office. Then you can lie your ass off. Amen.”
  -TFA
mitch77, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1I must disagree with earlier posts; most 'liberal christians' are not hypocrites..or christians either.
Assuming we are using 'liberal' in it's current general political meaning, 'liberal christian' is a sterling example of an oxymoron. So called 'liberal christians' deny such things as the virgin birth and the resurrection to name 2 of the biggies. They are therefore unbelievers.
No amount of tortured logic from the leftist wingnuts is going to come up with an unbelieving believer. The simple fact is that GOD has set certain prerequisites for what makes one a Christian. and importantly GOD is the only one who gets the final say on our eternal fate. However HE did, in fact, tell us to judge those who say they are Christians.
The "judge not" is an entirely different word that means 'to condemn for eternity'. This we are warned never to do. If I say to you I am a member of the YMCA or Lions club etc and you find out I have never paid any dues and avidly dispute the organizations rules, when you go to the president of the club and ask about me you will not be surprised to here him say, "I don't know him, he's not a member". This is not rocket science it is common sense. And GOD's word is just this clear on it.
All real mature Christians will want Christian laws to rule our land. Virtually all of the founders wanted this. However this is blown waaaay out of proportion by the lefties. Christian laws do not mean you can't drink. Christian laws would not hunt down and kill or incarcerate homosexuals. They certainly would imprison those who have decided to have orgies in broad daylight on public beaches. Christians, real mature ones, would make prison a place no one would ever want to go back to just like the guy in Texas does. By being so harsh he creates character and a resolve in a far far greater number of those men to never do anything to go back. That is real compassion...not giving them weights, porn, air conditioning, color TV and telling them it's societies fault. Everyone gets crapped on and the liberals want to make everyone FEEL better. It never works, it just creates dependency and destructive feelings of entitlement. We are entitled to PURSUE happiness. We are not owed it by anyone.
So called 'liberal christians' go about wanting to believe GOD loves everyone so much that they can do whatever the heck they want and GOD will wink at their wickedness.
The Bible says in the last days there will be a great falling away (apostacia - divorce) and it says many will be turned away by GOD who think they are safe. We must all choose to believe what GOD has said about us and repent, and ask for the strength and resolve we need to keep repenting when we mess up, trying to do better while relying on HIS help. HEre is a great video that should be watched by everyone who thinks he is a Christian; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwbps9k5Dj0al christianspost; ;
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