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MrBabyMan might quit Digg?

twitter.com — A recent picture depicting MrBabyMan " An Illustraded Guide to Understanding Digg" has made MrBabyMan really think about how the digg community feels about him and whether or not he should stay an active member of digg.

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  • rabidg00se, on 05/17/2008, -550/+1452"If this is how the majority of the Digg community feels, I'll quit."

    Oh, it is.
    • balloonenstein, on 05/17/2008, -506/+1085Digg this if you want MrBabyMan to quit.
      • y2kbg, on 05/17/2008, -26/+74now that is a good idea
      • Zalyster, on 05/17/2008, -32/+1091,000,000 diggs to get MrBabyMan to quit.
        Or, win a boxing match with him. That might do the trick.
      • Tripacer9999, on 05/17/2008, -78/+11Do not Digg this if you do but do not want MrBabyMan to not leave but stay yet leave.
        • Myonosken, on 05/17/2008, -1/+35I buried you for ***** with my mind.
        • Netrilix, on 05/17/2008, -6/+12I dugg you for ***** with my mind.
        • Pulch, on 05/17/2008, -1/+4I dugg you to ***** with your mind, waited an hour, and buried you to crush your reality.
      • MinaSulo, on 05/17/2008, -49/+7Haha, you think he will let this story make it to the front page? It will receive 20x more buries than diggs.
      • Derelict267, on 05/17/2008, -84/+164Oh come on guys quick picking on Mrbabyman. You guys just hate on him and hurt his feelings because he gets to the front page a lot. Poor guy, I feel sorry for him...digg me down then.
        • jonohull, on 05/17/2008, -6/+70He gets his stories because he's Mr.BabyMan. He submits a lot of stupid stories or lame lolcat images that we can find anywhere, and they get to the front because of who he is.
        • thatsmyaibo, on 05/17/2008, -3/+185I have no problems with MrBabyMan but I do have a problem with the digg system. If this site truly awarded the best content then it would block the user's name. Instead it is the people that get dugg up rather than the content. It is nothing more than a popularity contest.
        • oliversan, on 05/17/2008, -1/+73No, I agree, I have absolutely no issue with MrBabyMan as a person, he doesn't annoy me, but I have seen articles which other people have posted getting no-where and he posts it and it gets to the front page. And that's only because he posted it. Give someone else a chance BabyMan.
        • willk281, on 05/17/2008, -2/+14http://exposingtheflock.blogspot.com/ scratch one off the list...
        • Jones82, on 05/17/2008, -7/+10"Instead it is the people that get dugg up rather than the content. It is nothing more than a popularity contest."

          That's not quite true as we all seem to hate MrBabyMan yet we still digg his submissions
        • GOVATENT, on 05/17/2008, -1/+5its so true, i had to be mean, but i am sure most of digg can't make it to the front page becuase of his kind. It happened to one story i sent in he sent in an hour later and he made front page.
        • dptechie, on 05/17/2008, -6/+5"Instead it is the people that get dugg up rather than the content. It is nothing more than a popularity contest."

          Welcome to democracy!
        • NJank, on 05/17/2008, -1/+4he gets his stories frontpaged because he has figured out the social network promotion system. if you have a digg-making machine as a friend/shout list too, every piece of garbage you submit would get frontpaged, too. So, the problem is the friend network, not any one person.
        • fcukthisgame, on 05/17/2008, -5/+1@jonohull,

          Stories won't make it to the front page if nobody diggs them. Obviously, quite a few people like the stories. Don't like 'em? Then bury 'em.
      • rossmcd, on 05/17/2008, -40/+10I like the articles that he submits - so no, I don't want him to quit.
      • asskey, on 05/17/2008, -24/+7Can I have his account?
      • diggit23, on 05/17/2008, -3/+61dugg for social ostracism
      • Dexists, on 05/17/2008, -1/+13Looks like he's losing the majority vote... 273 vs 154 on this count
      • HydrogenOxide, on 05/17/2008, -1/+20+703 -301

        How's that for controversial, new comment's system!

        [/tangent]

        I still agree.
      • NoStoppingUs, on 05/17/2008, -9/+28i feel like i'm back in highschool or something. how old is mrbabyman? like 12?

        i once had to deal with a chick at work who cried for 2 hours in my office because someone called her fat. grow the ***** up. mrbabyman is a loser and needs a life, but i don't give a ***** what he does. you all need lives if you're this concerned about it.
      • RoyHobbs, on 05/17/2008, -11/+22Please quit MrBabyMan!!!!!!!!!
      • ciaran036, on 05/17/2008, -10/+9I've taken a look at his profile, and from what I can see, the articles which he makes popular tend to be either tech stories or something you might find in a tabloid newspaper. I came to Digg because I thought it was a social NEWS site. Some days, the top articles are like something plucked from 'The Sun' in Britain!

      • renegadeafk, on 05/17/2008, -9/+9You guys are dicks.
      • chodges4, on 05/17/2008, -6/+8it's a free country, i don't see why he should "quit" digg.
        • t0x2c, on 05/17/2008, -4/+3it's a free country, i don't see why he shouldn't "quit" digg.
      • Dexists, on 05/17/2008, -1/+4Because the idiot put himself up to it based upon the majority opinion of us. It's now 887 to 419, so he might as well gtfo. On the other hand, you can't have social-networking of any kind on digg without a bias. He's just hated for being a thief.

        And this is the web, ass. What country do you refer to?
      • controlguy, on 05/17/2008, -1/+5"If this is how the majority of the Digg community feels, I'll quit." -- "Oh, it is."

        During the days of Direct Democracy in ancient Athens, the people of the city-state would, on occasion, vote to ostracize (i.e., kick-out) a member of the community. At times, the targets of the such votes were those people who tended to be very vocal about their opinions on controversial matters and, possibly, successful at bringing others to agree with them while they served in the "legisture." (In Athens, everybody partook in government rule, but only in small groups at a time).

        There's an interesting parallel between that aspect of ancient direct democratic rule and the Digg community's ostracism of MrBabyMan. It's *not* perfect, but similar and certainly interesting. I don't think this has ever happened on Slashdot, which operates more along the lines of a "republic" (without the election of editors) as opposed to the "direct democracy" structure of Digg.
        • rlbond86, on 05/17/2008, -1/+5That's because sites like Slashdot and Fark have those editors. There's a filter. That's why articles on those sites, especially Slashdot, tend not to be inaccurate or one-sided or hearsay. On digg, there's no filter to prevent groupthink. It's a double-edged sword when the users pick the content.
    • balloonenstein, on 05/17/2008, -188/+144Digg this if you want MrBabyMan to stay
      • drex8, on 05/17/2008, -26/+1lol it's funny that both of balloonenstein's comments got dugg (so far mostly ups).
        One by MrBabyMan haters..
        and the other by MrBabyMan's supporters.
        Quite unique, considering the comments are of opposite nature, and by the same commenter. Haven't seen this so far during my time on Digg.
      • Konstantino, on 05/17/2008, -7/+17This is hilarious. Everyone honestly wants to blame Mr.BabyMan for screwing up their digg experience? Welcome to life guys. The strong users happen to have an advantage for their dedication, and the weak users whine about the strong users having an edge.

        It's not Mr.BabyMan who's "cheating the system". He's using the same damn resources as all of us here at digg. If you want to complain to someone, ask digg to tweak up the algorithm.
        • hmunkey, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2Gaming the system isn't really "dedication." Digg did tweak up the algorithm, but the top diggers had a fit and took it to Kevin Rose and Jay Adelson, so the Algo was altered.
      • Stephenishere, on 05/17/2008, -2/+5Why does it even matter? If he wasn't the one posting from reddit, it would be a bunch of other users posting the stories themselves. I could care less where they came from as long as the stories that come on Digg are good.
        • CarnivalOfDust, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2I *couldn't* care less (sorry dude, I'm a grammar nazi)
        • knightboat, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1CarnivalOfDust, don't apologize.
      • dabura, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1***** you
    • TomTruelle, on 05/17/2008, -74/+180I really dont see why everyone hates him so much. His stories get dugg, whats the problem?

      (honest question... I may be missing something here...)
      • Ocelot13, on 05/17/2008, -17/+180the problem is... his stories always hit front page. no matter the subject matter or how lame or awesome they are. where as though, if a lesser person, like myself, had submitted the same story, no one would care. but if mrbabyman comes along and submits the same thing after you, it hits front page.
        • AManWithNoName, on 05/17/2008, -58/+37That's what jealousy is. If you were truly a selfless person, you would just be happy that the article got the attention it deserved. And I've seen several MrBabyMan articles NOT hit front page...Sure some people digg him up blindly but there are more who don't.
        • badjoke, on 05/17/2008, -8/+87@AManWithNoName
          The trouble is that the site is supposed to be filtered by the users. It's a democratic site. When he can submit anything and his army diggs it up the frontpage because they want to be one of his "chosen people" it defeats the purpose and ruins our sytem.
        • AManWithNoName, on 05/17/2008, -34/+9@BadJoke
          Well I have no clue what you mean by "chosen people", since he doesn't pick people to be his friends for digging him up. As for being filtered by the users, well, that sounds like the loser in an election complaining that they are the more popular despite the fact that the evidence shows otherwise. Even if that weren't the case, people should be blaming the algorithm, not MrBabyMan.
        • db0255, on 05/17/2008, -13/+294Here's a real solution:
          Make all submissions anonymous until they hit the front page. Then it won't matter. I bet you will see that MrBabyMan's articles are much less apparent on the front page. Jealousy or not, I think badjoke is right when he says that MBM is defeating the system.
        • EmileVictor, on 05/17/2008, -3/+41Maybe if he quits using his account and starts another one anonymously we'll be able to see whether that assumption is true or not. If his stories are indeed quality then they'll make it to the front page anyway.
        • offput, on 05/17/2008, -11/+54His Popular Ratio is 27% so clearly not everything he submits gets to the front page. He just submits so much that a lot of front page stories are his.
        • chuckey, on 05/17/2008, -15/+53Why aren't you getting mad at Kevin Rose for the same thing? 98% of his stories hit front page and a big part of that is because he submitted them. If someone is submitting quality material you shouldn't try to force him to leave digg just because you are jealous.
        • jaznova, on 05/17/2008, -12/+5Call me a noob, but what exactly is the mechanism that gets this done?
        • Audacitor, on 05/17/2008, -3/+25@chuckey: Does krose submit umpteen zillion stories a day? No. Despite the fact that his word is pretty much law among diggers, we do not see the front page overflowing with his stories.
        • DangerMouse9, on 05/17/2008, -16/+9Are your egos so sensitive you have to have a story you submitted get to the front page? What the ***** do you win if your submission gets to the front page? Honestly, who really cares who submits what? Most of you people are the most sorry group of losers ever and you act like the number of submissions that make it to the front page or how many positive diggs you get is somehow equated to the size of your dick. I have news for you, the two have no correlation so you can stop giving a *****.
        • DooM, on 05/17/2008, -2/+20At the end of the day I want to go to Digg.com - a user-driven site. I do NOT want to go to MrBabyMan.com because his content is not compelling. For every one interesting story he submits I see 10 that are a wasting the lifespan of the pixels on my laptop, but his digg-cronies will digg that crap anyway.

          Please. Quit.
        • Kyan, on 05/17/2008, -0/+16Actually, this works two ways. I had one story make it to the front page. Thing is, it made it after about 19 diggs or something. Why did it make it? Because of the code. I have no friends (never bothered) and do not reply to any of those people trying to get me to be their friend.
          So, when my story made it to the front page, it was clear to me that the code is trying to favour people who are not gaming the system - that is not telling all their buddies to digg it for them.

          The catch? By making the front page with such a low number of diggs, the bury brigade came in and buried it to oblivion. Why? not based on the merit or lack of merit of my submission, but purely because it made the front page with so few diggs. If not for the bury brigade, people might have dugg it up.

          So, everyone dissing Mr Babyman (I admit I hate his abuse of the system, too), this works both ways.

          A lot of people bury things submitted by people not gaming the system that the code would allow to the front page. And unlike Mr Baby man, they remain unidentified.
        • ciaran036, on 05/17/2008, -1/+11If MrBabyMan wants his articles read, he should set up his own website or blog.
      • DigiDave, on 05/17/2008, -38/+215People are angry in general and they are manifesting their anger onto MrBabyMan.

        As I see it - MrBabyMan hasn't done anything wrong. He is very active on digg - so people recognize the name. If they haven't interacted with him personally, then he is just a name and it's easy to forget that there is a real person with a life, a job and a family. As such - it's very easy to project your angers on an avatar.

        For those who think that MrBabyMan is the root of all their Digg-woes. Take a moment to think long and hard about what is really pissing you off. Is it REALLY MrBabyMany?
        • strangewill, on 05/17/2008, -7/+36I've interacted with him personally, he beat me up and took my lunch money. :(
        • curtisag, on 05/17/2008, -11/+28Yes it REALLY is. He is subverting the system and ruining it by stealing other people's stories and cheating in essence. And it's not just him. Everyone who has 100's of friends they know nothing about on digg, then use these people as a source of diggs to artificially inflate the importance of their stories are ruining digg. No one should have more than about 50 friends.
        • Gioleb, on 05/17/2008, -11/+5I'm pretty certain he has no such thing as a "life".
          My personal belief is that it is not 1 person, but rather a group of people who make up MrBabyMan.
        • KingWilson, on 05/17/2008, -6/+9Digg woes?????? wtf, who gives *****. i've submitted stuff to see it it front page 2 weeks later under someone else. it dont matter
        • lintmonkey, on 05/17/2008, -3/+23I didn't have a problem with him until he started whining on twitter.
        • Alegoo92, on 05/17/2008, -9/+3Liberals have a habit of doing that.
        • b-dizzle, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2Excuse me, did you just infer that we are a crowd of bitter voters?
      • etherreal, on 05/17/2008, -12/+83Its because he is gaming the system. The site is supposed to generate news based on user feedback, not based on a drone army that instantly diggs every story you submit regardless of how much ***** it blows.
        • AManWithNoName, on 05/17/2008, -36/+13Name one goddamn person who mindlessly diggs him up. I've yet to see even ONE. I digg his articles when I see fit, and it seems to me that so do most other people.

          You're basically just bitching because he has more friends.
        • OhhWell, on 05/17/2008, -6/+7And how exactly is he supposed to name a specific person that mindlessly dugg a story? And how do you know that you haven't seen ONE? Did you actually go to everyone's house as they were digging the articles and hear them say "Goddamn, that's a kick-ass article. I better digg it!"? Oh wait, but then you say "it seems to me that so do most other people"...

          You are basically talking out of your ass.
        • b-dizzle, on 05/17/2008, -3/+2Who cares who submits a story? Digg is about the crowds finding, posting, and commenting on stories to create a stream of interesting content. I personally could care less who submitted a story, as long as it gets submitted. It'd be one thing if MrBabyMan just posted a stream of liquid poop to digg, but most of the time the stories he submits add something to the site, and to me that makes him a valuable member of the community, so everyone should just stop worrying so much about epeen and be submitter-blind.
      • Zipko, on 05/17/2008, -7/+205I only hate MrBabyMan because he killed my parents. Not sure what everyone else's problem is.

        ***** You MrBabyMan, I will have my revenge!
        • WernerCD, on 05/17/2008, -4/+26Hello. My Name is Zipko. You killed my Father. Prepare to Die.

          Meh... doesn't have the same ring to it...
        • Tomboys, on 05/17/2008, -3/+6ahhh.. Than you for giving me a laugh!
        • equinoxChild, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2wow zipko, you could be a marvel superhero :)
        • NYankee2003, on 05/17/2008, -4/+2..I call it Mr. & Mrs. Babyman chilli. Do like your chili mrbabyman? do you like it?
        • dabura, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1he also raped my mother and neutered my uncle!
          ***** it, lets do it LIVE!!
      • Mononuclear, on 05/17/2008, -19/+13I hope he leaves because none of the crap he submits is good. He just trolls reddit and submits whatever is popular there. So I read something on reddit and then a day later it shows up on digg front page submitted by Mr.Babyman. So if this is the case what is the point of even visiting Digg? He is ruining digg and should go.
        • shealer, on 05/17/2008, -5/+12And? The purpose of Digg is to submit links people may find interesting. Some people here may not read reddit, so it's new content for them.
      • Makaveli604, on 05/17/2008, -10/+76I don't think MrBabyMan is the problem, I think it's Digg.
        • Sil369, on 05/17/2008, -16/+9i think its u
        • Netrilix, on 05/17/2008, -11/+3NO U!!1
        • brundlefly76, on 05/17/2008, -2/+11Thats the most intelligent comment here. Google is popular because, (to many people's frustration), it keep moving its algorythm so that there arent users who can systematically own the top search results.

          Similarly, Digg should have a goal of systematically moving its algorithm to avoid users owning the frontpage.

          For a democracy, Digg is actually far more biased and hyperbolic than any regular news source I encounter - and yes that even goes for Fox news. Not that Digg (or even MyBabyMan) has a specific agenda, but its most powerful users have their own opinions, and those opinions get front and center stage on Digg through the stories they choose to promote.

          If anyone doest see that, the problem is far worse than I ever imagined.
        • heliox, on 05/17/2008, -1/+6@Brund.
          No need to move anything.
          - # of diggs wins
          - Article is anonymous

          The purpose is to digg interesting articles, not to whore the system

          Simple
        • CCB0x45, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1My only issue with the anonymous thing is the upcoming system... if they made it anonymous, would you still be able to shout the article to all your friends? In which case it wouldnt really be anonymous... if it was completely anonymous then I would never see any stories barely because the upcoming section moves SO fast, its impossible to keep up and most of it is spam and junk.

      • MarkTaiwan, on 05/17/2008, -5/+15One thing I sometimes gets rather annoyed about is that articles submitted by me never reaches frontpage. But at least 25% of Mrbabyman's submissions, how ever bad they are, would make it to the front page.
        (e.g. http://digg.com/political_opinion/An_Illustrated_G ... )
      • twiztidsinz, on 05/17/2008, -9/+34its called ePenis envy
      • PDAIsAOk, on 05/17/2008, -0/+14I think most people have a problem with him because if you really look at the majority of his submissions they are not original but duplicates of what someone else had already submitted. Same story applies to most of the "top" diggers. It takes away the social aspect of digg and puts all the power in the hands of a few digg whores. It's like going on an easter egg hunt as a kid and having one kid elbow his way through the crowd and take all the eggs for himself. Sure other people might get one here or there but it kind of takes out all the fun.

        Every time I have submitted an article that was a dupe I just cancel and digg the one thats already been submitted. That's the point of digg, not to spend every spare minute of your day flooding digg with a load of crap. Whenever I add a friend that sends me 20 shout outs to stories theyve posted every day I consider that spam not "dedicated top diggers"
        • ciaran036, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2Good point. But is it because these top diggers digg a lot of articles, or is it actually because of their status at digg?
          27% made popular ratio seems extremely high though. Maybe he's an expert in digging articles. Maybe the people that digg the ridiculous articles that MrBabyMan submits are just as stupid?
      • briansearles, on 05/17/2008, -10/+4So true ePenis envy. Who the ***** cares if your stories don't hit front page on Digg? Go outside for a change.
        • ciaran036, on 05/17/2008, -0/+8Go outside and do what? Stare at a tree?
      • TrevorBelmont, on 05/17/2008, -2/+13I was only dimly aware of his existence before this. I noticed the name recurred a lot (as MrBabyMan is a memorable name). I couldn't be bothered to keep up on the politics of Digg.
        That is until this mess hit the front page. This last post had a ring of "I'm taking my ball and going home" and leaves a very bitter taste. What is the purpose of a post like this one? It sure feels like a vie for attention and drama. Asking Digg users to come out in support of or to stand against you. Ridiculous.
        If I'm scraping around the underbelly of the net and find a gem that I think people would enjoy, I don't submit it. It's futile. I'm not going to run around chatting it up, "social networking" to build a fan base. I've already been through high school once. So if any of the Digg Illuminati want to leave, I say "There's the door."
      • MrMax99, on 05/17/2008, -6/+3He is only popular because everyone diggs his stories. If the majority of people dont like his stories, then dont digg them.
        • heliox, on 05/17/2008, -3/+4His little digg whore brigade is what does it. Certainly nowhere near the majority of people.
          Look at his friends list, and see who diggs his "news". He's a post whore who needs to see his name. His whore brigade are wannabes.
          He won't leave, he feeds on this *****. I am sure he has multiple accounts.
      • daizaru, on 05/17/2008, -1/+6This is a made up statistic but I would venture a GUESS that at least 95% of Digg users don't look at "Upcoming" and stick solely to "Popular" entries. If you do that then you really have no right to comment because you are equally to blame for not helping other non mrbabyman articles get dugg.

        Watching what MrBabyMan submits is maybe easier than watching "upcoming" for some people. The majority of what he submits is pretty damn decent. If he quits then someone else will just take his place because most digg users only care about what hits the "frontpage" of popular and without people like him nothing ever would.
      • smpx, on 05/17/2008, -2/+8The system before MBM-and-friends: A story is submitted, it is viewed, deemed interesting, and given votes based on quality.

        The system after MBM-and-friends: A story is submited by MBM-and-friends, not gone through quality checks and automatically gets a stamp of approval based on his minions. Quality of digg drops substantially.


        I don't know how this is not clear to the people whining about epenises.
      • AbsurdParadox, on 05/17/2008, -5/+3Its jealousy, nothing more.
    • AManWithNoName, on 05/17/2008, -29/+4Sadly, you're right. God forbid we not be jealous of someone.
      • LanceWindu, on 05/17/2008, -0/+23The only problem I have with Mr.Babyman is that Digg has dupe detection in place, and if he sees any topics that were posted before him that are of the same as his he should not submit it. This doesn't just go to Mr.Babyman, it goes to all of the Digg community.
        • SubjectiveC, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2No kidding. I posted a Zero Punctuation article an hour and a half before the one that hit the front page, with the exact same title and URL. I felt robbed. It was my first submission that didn't suck.
    • thenumber8, on 05/17/2008, -45/+120I don't understand why everything is getting tossed in mrbabyman's face, there are other power diggers with greater pop ratios (take zaibatsu for example) so it isn't like he's the only one.

      Personally I don't think they are gaming the system, most of them have been with digg for a really long time and have earned the place that they have now.
    • Lane, on 05/17/2008, -34/+179What a man chooses to do with his free time should be left up to him, if you don't like it too bad. He isn't digging his own stories with 10,000 accounts or spamming, it's all stuff people who share his interests are digging. block him if you want and be done with it but don't bitch to the rest of us. not everyone has time to go through every single social news site and if one place has the best from the rest filtered to the tops lets be glad it's digg.
    • shondell, on 05/17/2008, -52/+198This is a social networking site run by the users. Who the ***** are you diggers to say who can quit and who can stay? Let him be.

      Mr. Babyman do whatever the ***** you want. If you want to give in to some diggers who bitch and moan because your stories always get popular but theirs dont, then go ahead and quit. Otherwise keep doing whatever the hell you want to do.
      • snupples, on 05/17/2008, -3/+61I really don't give a ***** either. I'll digg his stories sometimes and sometimes not. I usually don't pay attention to the submitter before I digg.

        But he needs to get the ***** over himself. This isn't the first time he's tried to bring attention to his "plight" as a "top digger". Stay or quit, I don't care. But please: stop whining.
        • bossm4n, on 05/17/2008, -11/+7He's not trying to draw attention to himself. He didn't post this. It's a simple statement he made via Twitter, which I think is pretty tame considering the unfounded, ridiculous nature of the cartoon. He's not the one doing the whining.
        • equinoxChild, on 05/17/2008, -5/+4I went through these comments trying to see if someone matched my thoughts on the matter, and I could not have put it better than you did, snupples.

          Seriously, why does anyone look at the submitter anyway? Its the story that counts. I wouldn't care if even Kevin Rose submitted every story on the front page as long as some of them are interesting.
      • Audacitor, on 05/17/2008, -8/+5He makes a point. Where does it say to ToS that any majority of users get force another one out? On the other hand, everyone agrees that MrBabyMan seems to be a problem, although no one seems agreed on what exactly that problem is.
        • estvir, on 05/17/2008, -3/+9Purposefully dupes, basically submits the top stories at Reddit, etc.
        • cranium, on 05/17/2008, -1/+7Nobody is "forcing" anyone out. He's been merely satirized in a cartoon, there's no need for you or him to be a drama queen.
      • patch6, on 05/17/2008, -3/+12He's not being forced out, he's leaving on his own volition.
        Considering the kinds of stories he spreads, I'm not going to disagree.
      • winmywii, on 05/17/2008, -3/+8"This is a social networking site run by the users. Who the ***** are you diggers to say who can quit and who can stay? Let him be."

        Technically doesn't that mean we could kick him out if we wanted to? If it really is run by the users and we are the users we can tell him to go. I could careless if he goes or stays.
      • estvir, on 05/17/2008, -6/+4He said "If this is the way people feel, I'll quit" and we are expressing that yes, this is the way they feel.
      • jsully, on 05/17/2008, -5/+3This is a social networking site run by the users. Who the ***** are you diggers to say who can quit and who can stay?

        Contradict much?
      • smpx, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2We're not saying whether he can go or stay. There isn't a "kick vote" button here, just a "voice opinion" button.
    • bluezinc, on 05/17/2008, -32/+98Hello whine-1-1? Call the whaaaaaaambulance!
    • carbog, on 05/17/2008, -25/+72I don't get this. If you don't like his stories, just don't digg them, and they won't make the front page. People like his stories, they digg his stories, they get to the front page. Simple democracy.
      • drex8, on 05/17/2008, -4/+34"If you don't like his stories, just don't digg them, and they won't make the front page."
        But the thing is, most of his stories DO make the front page..whether you and other diggers digg it or not. You see, most diggers digg a story AFTER it has made the front page. Very few diggers are active or involved in the nascent stage of the story getting dugg or buried when it's climbing up the Upcoming Story/Article ranks.

        And a lot of people/diggers are saying here that those stories get dugg to the front page..because of his sheer number of friends, who often, does or does not even read the content of his submissions, when they digg his stories. So there can be a lot of diggs involved, which gives life to his submissions, and which those diggs are not totally all of ethical nature. Because many of his friends may tend to digg his stories without properly reading the content of his submission. And this may or may not be true though.

        So most of his stories has already landed on the front page..when most diggers see it. Now whether the story is cool and get a 1000 more diggs or just merely a handful of diggs after that, that's another story.

        The main thing is, most of MrBabyMan's submissions have already landed on the front page, when most diggers see it..whizzing past the crucial Upcoming phase..where most stories get their life or death sentence for the front page.

        Well frankly speaking, I don't care. Whether the stories or submissions are collections from reddit or stories which see the light of the day (as in front page of digg) via duplicate submissions of other diggers' submits. As long I get to read some of the interesting articles on Digg, that's what mostly matters to me.

        But all this voices of discontent are appearing because other diggers/people do care..because evidently they have seen their submissions getting hijacked and never making the front page, while MrBabyMan's duplicate submit of the same article with a minor twist, is. So..well..it's a delicate situation.
        • vinnyvenus, on 05/17/2008, -4/+7Only 25 percent of his stories make front page. Go look at his profile.
    • isntreal, on 05/17/2008, -16/+113Wooo welcome back to highschool guys!
      • Coffeedemon, on 05/17/2008, -8/+17Yeah this is ridiculous. I don't even see how this could be "cheating" if all the activity is by the book. Who cares who submitted it?

        I don't care if MrBabyMan is one guy or a team of 50. The submissions are relatively varied and very numerous. Plus he can manage to put in a good title and a decent description on all his submissions which is more than I can say for a lot of submitters around here.

        Maybe I'd change my tune if I had a financial stake in getting "my"* stories up front but I don't - I'm just here to read and occasionally argue with people.

        Personally I think he should stick around - don't take any guff from these swine.

        * - remember everyone, 9.5 times out of 10 you don't own any of this content. If anything you're all just glorified paperboys shouting headlines on the corner. Try not to take it too seriously.
        • ccheath, on 05/17/2008, -1/+5'glorified paper boys'

          gotta remember that one for later... thanks!
    • DrCyclops, on 05/17/2008, -9/+75Internet is srz biz guys.
    • TheDSL, on 05/17/2008, -13/+2Just a publicity stunt so when he posts a new GTAIV trailer featuring the Dark Knight dry humping Nico MBM will be rich beyond his dreams. .
    • taradisiac, on 05/17/2008, -31/+70Yeah, quit. If anything for being such an attention whore.
      • bossm4n, on 05/17/2008, -12/+7How exactly is he an attention whore in this case?
        • dullnation, on 05/17/2008, -0/+10Its not just this case (although this case is a prime example), it's many other occasions too. A great example was the threat of leaving because of new fairer DIGG algorithms.
    • idavidtang, on 05/17/2008, -31/+23I'm one of the minority.
      I don't see why you guys gotta hate him for posting articles that gets more diggs.
      Maybe some of you needs a little more networking or people skills to get your own crowd of supports.
      And no, i've never supported him before, i barely found out who this guy was today and it sucks to see whats been going on for the past couple of hours.
    • Laminarcissus, on 05/17/2008, -32/+71Babyman --

      Okay look, a little tough love here. There are things that suck about being at the top. Whenever you do something at a level other people haven't been able to achieve you become a lightning rod for idiots who are happier writing hater posts than actually trying themselves.

      Doubt it? Have a look at the recent "comment system bugs on Opera" threads. Here are people sitting in their living room, many of whom are only able to brag about hacking their Tivo, enthusiastically calling the people *who created this entire site* lazy and dumb and incompetent because some Javascript doesn't quite work on a browser that represents less than 1% of the population.

      But you seriously aren't in this to be loved are you? Are you? I would expect that someone like you would get his real satisfaction from looking back over the number of people who were silently informed by your posts. People who learned something or were pointed to something useful even if they didn't notice the article had your name on it.

      So you want to know how the majority of the Digg community feels? Too bad. You never will, because they aren't the ones with the time or inclination or outright neediness to position their superiority in relation to you. They're silent, and they respect your contributions by promoting them to the front page and reading them.

      Don't let a little neediness of your own screw that up.
      • isntreal, on 05/17/2008, -9/+21Well put, sir.
      • Aikidi, on 05/17/2008, -8/+5Very well put indeed.
        I can't believe everyone's bitching so much. Honestly, everyones getting all mad because it seems that MrBabyMan is in it for the popularity.

        Their reasoning?

        "But I wanted to be on the front page....:(" for their own popularity no less.

        Its a news site, get over it.

        And honestly, if he does have an army of drones then they do a ***** job anyway, with that low pop rate
        • Kyan, on 05/17/2008, -1/+9And from looking at your profile, Mr Babyman is your only friend. Why is that?
      • heliox, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2LOL...
      • purzzzell, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1What can you accomplish by hacking a Tivo?
        • Laminarcissus, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1You can put a bigger hard disk in it and extend the hours. It's basically just a Linux box with a custom interface. A little old school now, what with all the new models they have out.
    • shankarganesh, on 05/17/2008, -41/+66Not really.
      MrBabyMan does his job.
      If you like his stories, digg them. That's pretty much it.

      (I know, I'm going to get dugg down. But still, I just can't refrain myself from posting this)
    • aukxsona, on 05/17/2008, -24/+55This is retarded. MrBabyMan is just a dude. I could care less if he stays or goes. If he is going to get upset over a retarded drawing and leave fine. If he stays ya'll should get the ***** over his ability to provide diggs.
      • banmaster, on 05/17/2008, -4/+19You mean you COUNDN'T CARE LESS.
        • CarnivalOfDust, on 05/17/2008, -3/+1I love you.
        • bluntphallus, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1You mean COULDN'T CARE LESS.

          At any rate, fukkin' dugg. I hate it when people say "could". Damn...
      • noseeme, on 05/17/2008, -1/+3He may be just a dude, but damn, he's got some sweet *****. *LICKLICKLICKLICKLICK*
    • MiddleOfNowhere, on 05/17/2008, -11/+31Woah. I've been on digg for some time, but I wasn't aware that this question of who submits what is *that* important ...
      I may be naive, but isn't the story more important than the submitter?
      And if a lot of people feel that the system is rigged by a few users and their *cough* "armies" - wouldn't the smart thing be to make all submissions anonymous *until* they reach the front page?
      That would give the eager submitters both: A fair (anonymous) competition for eyeballs and your 15 seconds of fame when you see your name on the frontpage.
      How about it?
      • curtisag, on 05/17/2008, -0/+12That would be nice, but when you have the ability to shout your stories to all of your friends, an anonymous digg system wouldn't work.
        • mekura, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4Perhaps your friends wouldn't see who submitted (and sent them) the story until after they had dugg it?
        • pcghost, on 05/17/2008, -0/+14How about getting rid of the lame-ass spam system that the shout system has become. I for one wouldn't miss it.
      • NOFXY, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4also, he resubmits old stuff just be dugg up again and like many people have said before, he is obviously gaming the system with his "spam"
    • Zlorp, on 05/17/2008, -18/+59mrcrybabyman
    • FuckThaMeme, on 05/17/2008, -6/+19Who else is gonna bet that MBM will submit this very story and get to the FP in a couple of days :P
    • thespi007, on 05/17/2008, -7/+29don't be stupid mr.babyman ... don't quit just give me ur password ...
    • robotto, on 05/17/2008, -5/+26I swear I didn't know who babyman is untill now, and frankly I couldn't care less.
    • zyryx, on 05/17/2008, -8/+9one down, many more to go
      • dullnation, on 05/17/2008, -1/+4Who will simply be replaced unless the digg algorithm is altered to become fairer to everyone somehow...
    • tandy400, on 05/17/2008, -5/+9Actually, it's not. The majority doesn't give a ***** either way.
    • QGYH2, on 05/17/2008, -7/+19The fact that digg is ***** up, is not babyman's fault. It's a pity people are blaming him as he (and msaleem) are two of the few decent ethical people on digg.

      Look at their digg history and you will see they digg other peoples content (instead of the you digg me I digg you BS).

    • themastersb, on 05/17/2008, -3/+5He should just stop doing what's depicted in the pic if he wants us to stop feeling that way.
    • rpgmaker, on 05/17/2008, -6/+10Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
    • Xcel, on 05/17/2008, -11/+9Wow, I can't believe the Digg community is trying to do something like this. Everyone who is trying to get him off is a ***** dick. IT'S A SOCIAL NEWS WEBSITE, IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIS CONTENT, THEN BURY HIM! Jesus.. all this ***** hate going around because of a WEBSITE. Some of you really need to go outside and spend some time with friends. Maybe that will clear your heads.

      You're all like a bunch of whiny, crying Hillary's.
      • freebsdmike, on 05/17/2008, -2/+8I think it's funny he's acting like a child saying "FINE I'LL TAKE MY TOYS AND GO HOME!@#". For that reason alone I'm willing to dig up all the comments saying "Digg this if you want him to leave". If that makes me a dick so be it.
      • ccheath, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2FINALLY someone suggesting people use the BURY functionality of digg

        everyone else has been saying if you don't like it then don't digg it
        (IMHO that's the attitude that allows this situation to arise)
        if you don't like it you're supposed to bury it
        (that will give the algo a much better reading of what the community likes and dislikes)

        ps: way to throw in the political punch there too
    • almightyzam, on 05/17/2008, -1/+3This is so stupid, by complaining about MrBabyMan making the front page all the time, we have inadvertently managed to make the three top stories ABOUT him...
    • tafkase7en, on 05/17/2008, -2/+9Who the hell is MrBabyMan??.
    • NYankee2003, on 05/17/2008, -0/+5Does this remind anyone else of the WoW South Park?
    • Synyk, on 05/17/2008, -3/+4This, my friends, is ***** pathetic. Bury his stories and move the ***** on.
    • ieatsmurfs, on 05/17/2008, -4/+2wah wah wah my stories don't get to the front page. Grow up.
    • ligyron, on 05/17/2008, -5/+2I've been a regular on Digg for over 5 months now, and did I miss something? After reading many of the comments here, they seem to suggest that "MrBabyMan" makes the front page a lot. I don't think I've ever seen MrBabyMan before. Who the hell cares about who submitted an article? I never even noticed until recently that articles show the user who Dugg it first

      People whine about this on YouTube too, but at least there it's somewhat warranted, because there it's actually the person's hard work / money that they put into making the video which financially it would be important to make it to the front page. This is just a news site. It's about entertainment. All the submitter is doing is giving you a link. Who cares where they got it, they're bringing you entertainment from around the Internet. It's not about the people, it's about the articles.

      I find it hilarious when people say "Oh I submitted an article and it only got 5 diggs, then the next day MrBabyMan submitted the same article and it made front page. Bawwwww." If the article was something you made, then shouldn't you be happy that it made front page anyway? If it's not something you made, who gives a ***** about the fate of the article. Not like people are going to worship the ground you walk on and send you royalty cheques for getting an article on front page. Digg has a huge user base. The people that regularly comment on articles or notice the users that submit the articles are a minority
    • stalzdiggity, on 05/17/2008, -2/+3i honestly dont even notice he submitted articles i read until someone points it out
    • skankyBacon, on 05/18/2008, -1/+1Who gives a ***** whether MrBabyMan gets a lot of front-page stories?
      Who gives a ***** when their own submissions aren't dugg?
      Who gives a ***** whether MrBabyMan does or doesn't keep using Digg?

      Why the hell is it such a big deal to get a submission on the front page? You going to put it on your resume? Expecting someone to cut you a check? Will it give meaning and purpose to your life? I don't even look at the submitter of articles I read or digg--why should I?

      In short, who gives a *****?
    • jessicajameston, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1but he is still posting and getting attention... what gives ?
  • chaosium, on 05/17/2008, -150/+92Nobody gives a ***** about you, manchild.
    • Philonius, on 05/17/2008, -6/+7It's a shame you haven't come across the 'block user' feature yet. Keep looking, you'll find it.
    • mickoes, on 05/17/2008, -5/+2Looks like poeple think this way about your comment..
    • Bilabrin, on 05/17/2008, -3/+1How Ironic. Choasium, best know by me and others for tirades against the supposed "caulousness" of Libertarianism, now finds himself guilty of not giving a damn...
      • chaosium, on 05/18/2008, -1/+1People who cry all emo-like over their internet reputation, let me drink your delicious tears.
  • georgemason01, on 05/17/2008, -116/+60Banish him.
  • DavisCollins, on 05/17/2008, -109/+69I don't think that anybody will miss him too bad.
  • imacoder, on 05/17/2008, -83/+331Others will rise up and fill that role with diverse content without the individual bias.
    • DeathGod321, on 05/17/2008, -7/+15I think we'll actually see more 4chan stuff after he leaves since that's what the non-babyman stories usually end up being.
    • nicheplayer, on 05/17/2008, -2/+16I never pay any attention to who posts these stories. I was under the impression that it doesn't matter where the stories come from, so long as they're here. I don't load Digg to make friends. Does anyone really think the content here is going to change appreciably if this fellow "quits" Digg? Seems unlikely.
    • 4d669, on 05/17/2008, -1/+4I thought this 'I'm leaving' drama was over and was something we could remember from the early forum years. I guess internet drama and e-penis will never die.
    • chrgrose, on 05/17/2008, -0/+6BABY DON'T HURT ME
      DON'T HURT ME
      NO MORE
    • Blah_Blah_Blah, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4what is the point of spending so much time submitting stories anyway? is there a reward system i'm unaware of?
      • skankyBacon, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Apparently some people think it's some kind of huge personal honor.
    • b4db0y, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2http://www.digg.com/user/mrbabyman no longer exist! ='(
    • SpeakerCity, on 05/17/2008, -0/+7Remember this *****?:
      http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2008/01/di ...
      The digg team actually wanted to level the playing field , and these pussies cried like little bitches. And the digg team gave in to their demands.
      ***** MrBabyMan, ***** MSaleem, and ***** Zaibatsu.


      • miggie, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3I've never seen that Zaibatsu guy summit stories any more I think he left but I digg down MrBabyMan and MSaleem every time I see there names.
  • oomfoofoo, on 05/17/2008, -79/+62boohoo babyman, does your pussy hurt?
  • IDIGTHEDIGG, on 05/17/2008, -131/+60Digg me up if you want him to quit digg me down if u want him to stay or if you are a major douche
    • Akaji, on 05/17/2008, -9/+75This is difficult... I want MrBabyMan to quit, but I'm also a major douche.
    • bicyclethief, on 05/17/2008, -4/+4This seems like a loaded question...
    • badjoke, on 05/17/2008, -4/+13I'm going to go ahead and bury you for the sake of your horrible spelling and grammar.
    • ashotfired, on 05/17/2008, -2/+7Woooo woooooo, GRAMMAR POLICE!

      __  Ç___
      _____//__Ø____\_____
      o---------POLICE---------
      (@)===========(@)
    • rentmitchum, on 05/17/2008, -1/+3"...and they were, like, yes or no questions, but they were very strangely worded. Like, 'Have you ever tried sugar..... or PCP?'"

      /mitch
  • Rowan187, on 05/17/2008, -205/+1006This is really too far... It does suck that his stuff easily hits the front page, but the man has earned it. He's dedicated most of his free time to Digg, and he jokes about it on his YouTube page and such. Give the man a break. InB4 dugg down.
    • Zalyster, on 05/17/2008, -16/+22Inafter dugg down.
    • digjam, on 05/17/2008, -7/+50I dont give a ***** about how many articles he submits on digg or how much time he spends on digg. I agree some of them are real digg worthy. But I DO want to know how the heck does almost quarter of them end up on front page while other great articles keep lurking in upcoming? Same thing happens with MSALEEM too. I am not saying thats bad, just curious how come articles from same persons and websites eg divinecaroline,dailykos,huffingtonpost etc end up on front page.

      Somebody is gaming the system for traffic or popularity.
    • Smokersroom, on 05/17/2008, -20/+22What a sad ***** he must be.
      • itsgotyou, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3Not really. Did you see his mom yet? Gerrroowl
    • Daiken, on 05/17/2008, -8/+13Just cause someone spends a lot of time doing something, doesn't mean he needs to be rewarded for it. He's abusing the system where everyone has should have relatively similar chances of having articles reach the front page, to a system where he controls a large percentage of what we see.
      • twiztidsinz, on 05/17/2008, -2/+7"relatively similar chances" would make EVEN MORE MrBabyMan stories hit the front page. When's the last time you've seen a MBM story hit the front page with less than 100 or even 150 diggs? with less than 30 comments? I personally have never seen one, yet frequently see a fair amount of stories from 'unknowns' who get to the front with under 50 diggs or sometimes 0 comments. The system balances for people like MBM making it harder for him to get his stories to the front page.
    • Brick86, on 05/17/2008, -1/+14Are you kidding me? Jesus he's just some dude who loves Digg. I think we should also get rid of everyone who has never posted a story and never gotten a positive comment. At the same time I believe we should remove everyone who has posted a dupe or has gotten more than 5 submissions fp'd because he/she must be "cheating".
    • Ascendancy5, on 05/17/2008, -10/+44chan meme's do not work here. This is Digg. inb4 newfag.
      • Gamer2k4, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1No, 4chan memes work extremely well, unfortunately.
    • Cofaloaf, on 05/17/2008, -2/+11I really don't care who submitted the article, that sounds like high school drama to me. I come to digg to find interesting stuff and if someone has a monopoly on that interesting stuff then he must be better at it then the rest of us. Props to him.
    • jpy321, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4Personally, I think MrBabyMan is wasting his time doing this stupid *****, but if that what he wants to do, what's the harm? If you don't like him, bury him. That's the way this site works.
    • Gamer2k4, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2Too far is letting people like the Digg community determine what you do with your life.

      But hey, if this gets him to stop spending so much time on Digg and actually do something worthwhile, I'm all for it.
    • KiwiMark, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2Digg is a game to him. Look at his history, he diggs 10 friends stories a minute. He's either a speed reader, or fame is more important than content.
  • kurupttek, on 05/17/2008, -58/+47Cool
  • Ridgeliner7, on 05/17/2008, -96/+873I have no idea if MrBabyMan games the system like some I have read about, or is merely very good at networking and getting others to digg his submissions. Nor do I care. I do care about mean-spirited people constantly posting hate and venom, however.

    This is supposed to be fun, people. F-U-N. Remember that? Do you know what enjoying a pastime is about? For someone to leave because of what others say here, or anywhere, is nutty. For people here to be so jealous or envious of someone getting more popular submissions than they do, to actually want to drive someone away, smacks of arrested development or the antics of a potentially sociopath adolescent. Cyberbullies, the tide is turning on you. Take that to the bank.
    • Aitese, on 05/17/2008, -24/+21"I do care about mean-spirited people constantly posting hate and venom, however."

      Go back and look at the picture that has MrBabyMan all upset...I wouldn't call it hate or venom. It was a joke.
      • Ridgeliner7, on 05/17/2008, -6/+22Yeah, of course it was a "joke"....just like all the hate and venom above is a joke? Whenever someone is attacked by bullies, the first excuse when they are caught or called is "It was only a joke!" When it is clear the object doesn't think it is funny, then it becomes cyber-bullying, and not a joke.
      • highstriker, on 05/17/2008, -3/+7It was just a joke, at least I thought so at first. Which is why I originally dugg it. But the crap that came in the comments was more than enough to make me undigg it. =/
    • Shattermap, on 05/17/2008, -14/+5sounds like someone's not having very much fun...
    • walkea1, on 05/17/2008, -5/+7l'm against any personal/ ad hominem attacks here, but on the other hand people are free to say when they don't like somebody or something. Obviously a lot of people like mrbabyman if they keep digging his stories all the time, so he just needs to not let the negative people affect him. you can never get everyone to like you.
      • winmywii, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4It shouldn't be about people liking Mr. Babyman, it should be about the stories. I say just get rid of user names on submissions like a user said above. Without his user name displayed, half of his stories would be buried to all hell.
    • Spudster, on 05/17/2008, -8/+15People are annoyed seeing their articles become popular after they are stolen by him.
      • tomjm5000, on 05/17/2008, -0/+5I have been supporting him with my comment diggs in this thread, but I have to admit I found it amusing when I saw a submission go top 10 after I had submitted it -- and it turned out to be everyone's favorite duplicate whipping boy.
    • Justice101, on 05/17/2008, -3/+6THIS IS A DEMOCRACY! There's no place in here for fun. : )
    • SpencerFry, on 05/17/2008, -3/+1Well said.
    • koko775, on 05/17/2008, -3/+13Word. I don't give a damn who submits the stories to Digg. Not one bit. Leave, don't leave. It makes no difference. If you are looking for validation (MrBabyMan), you won't find it with me. If you are looking for a reason to leave, I don't have one, either. For as long as I find it worthwhile, I will continue to read and digg. It's as simple as that.
    • ElAssoWipo, on 05/17/2008, -2/+7They aren,t mean spirited they are jealous.

      The people complaining are the same people who submit crap stories or stories that have already been submitted by MrBabyMan.

      They're pissed simply because he's too good at it.

      And I can't speak for age, but I can tell you that the maturity level of this website dropped singificantly in the last year. The more popular the site gets the more immature the comments get (youtube-like).
    • GhandicapXRS, on 05/17/2008, -5/+3Shunning people is what I do for fun.
    • marketmou, on 05/17/2008, -1/+5totally agree with you here: too much hate by far in this place. We should all ignore them and bury their stuff (the haters).
    • telepheedian, on 05/17/2008, -2/+3Its not fun if you can't get any diggs on any of your stories, when his stuff always gets front page, regardless of story quality.
    • Mardi, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2lol cyber-bullying
    • diggdat, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3I don't in particular know if he specifically games the system or not. I have probably dugg and enjoyed his stories but I do have an opinion on the concept gaming it and I do think digg would benefit with less of it.

      When the system is gamed by the few, really unique stories can and are lost.

      The power of digg is not just the fast grab and post of a story from the standard media (it is part of it). It is the story you may not come across yourself but some digg user, in some other city with some other kind of life who has found an obscure Internet moment to share, that is at risk. This poster may have one or two stories they ever post but now they found one and you will likely never be exposed to it. You won't see it because they never spent all of their time building a mini digg empire of contacts etc.

      In earlier days I did have one rise to the top and it was one I never would have thought would, it just did.

      I don't really care if my posts make it to the top (I don't post them anymore) but I really care that yours probably won't either, because while I have already read my stories, I will probably never even see yours.
  • IDIGTHEDIGG, on 05/17/2008, -63/+20Noone wants MrBabyMan
    • Zalyster, on 05/17/2008, -7/+10Peter Noone can think for himself, thank you.
  • fxu1989, on 05/17/2008, -127/+1202You have an option to bury articles.

    If you don't like it, bury it. Easy as that.

    "He's submitting duplicates" ... from reddit ? ... Some of us don't go to reddit, pick one and stay with it.

    ....from old articles ? ... boohoo, some people might not have seen them.... just bury it and go on with your life. Stop being such a bunch of whiny little babies.

    And here I thought myspace/facebook was full of drama.


    I'll probably get buried cus diggsters don't like it when you go against the popular voice.
    • Ridgeliner7, on 05/17/2008, -10/+13LOL...the "Wisdom of the Crowd" is oftentimes not...
    • MattBot5000, on 05/17/2008, -11/+13I don't know how frequently--if at all-- MrBabyMan does this, but i am most concerned with top diggers, or anyone for that matter, duping other peoples articles on digg
      • Ridgeliner7, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4I wonder how many people busy themselves with burying the 100 duplicates, and actually giving that as the reason? It needs to be done more often. When something breaks on the 2008 candidates, like it did yesterday and today, there are dozens of duplicates, and often one exactly the same source, posted 6 or 7 hours after the original, becomes "popular" while the original does not. Seems that is an easy software adjustment.......

        As for who, does it matter? What is the "prize"?
    • AManWithNoName, on 05/17/2008, -4/+43You're the first sane commenter I've seen in a long time. Digg was created so that people get to share articles they like with other people, not so that we can rank ourselves on some retarded system of who has the most friends. If this actually succeeds, it will prove that there's no hope left for the original idea that started digg.
      • GoneFishing, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1Waoh~~~ I just had this moment of enlightenment. Stay with me on this one...

        True democracy can never be achieved like that of communism.

        That is what MrBabyMan's ousting will prove.
    • mCanada, on 05/17/2008, -6/+2The digg mod's will "push" submissions to the front page quicker or faster depending on criteria. This in combination with the digg algorithm. So it's not just MBM's "crowd" that is doing it. If you don't believe there are mod's doing this I suggest you do a quick search. Democracy is a funny thing.
      • solistus, on 05/17/2008, -2/+4Your baseless accusations have been denied repeatedly by the Digg crew. Mods cannot intervene to change the fate of a single story. They get one digg like anyone else. The digg algorithm takes many things into account, and claiming that the mods are gaming the system because you don't immediately see how it got a certain pattern of results is silly.
        • isntreal, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1The only thing that has been said, by KR, was that the admins have the ability to make a story front page with 1 digg, specifically for digg related news/announcements.
        • solistus, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1Granted; they can make official announcements. They have, however, stated that they do not select individual stories from the regular submissions and give them special treatment. The front page is generated by the algorithm.
      • isntreal, on 05/17/2008, -1/+3A quick search for what.. what kind of evidence do you have that suggests that?
    • MarkTaiwan, on 05/17/2008, -14/+8It's true most diggers dont like it when you go against the popular voice. But reverse psychology sure as hell works.

      Bury me.
    • jameshickmott, on 05/17/2008, -3/+4Its not like you can make a profit from digg.

      And in the end if you steal articles from reddit, its the users who make them popular.

      Get over it, and don't be so sensitive. Though it is ironic how his name is mr 'baby' man.
    • endlessoul, on 05/17/2008, -10/+1*****. I bury every single one of MrBabyMan's submissions I come across. Not to say that's all of them, but whatever.

      My point is burying, for me, does little to nothing. He still gets his stolen articles to the front page. MrBabyMan is a cancer.
    • MrZaiko, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4If you dont like it, bury it
    • Jade10145, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3FXU i completly agree. Yes it does suck when you submit a story and the same damn one is made popular by someone else but its just internet popularity..Does anyone go around and say "Oh I have the most Dugg stories on Digg", who gives a *****. Its like having the most friends on myspace, its just meaningless. People need to get over this popularity thing and realize what this site is for. Ya it sucks when my story doesn't come up but I get over it after a few seconds. Same goes for the "old story" comments, for gods sake not everyone has seen it..
    • Cofaloaf, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1But diggers do like it when you suggest that by digging your comment you are not conforming. (I dugg it too)
    • razz8806, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2Whats reddit?
    • mille716, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3You're missing out on the big issue though. If half of all the stories that FP are on there from the top submitters, that then means digg is not getting (1.) a true variety of submissions and (2.) many diggers will not feel as if they are a part of digg.

      The variety of submissions rarely gets talked about. I know MrBabyMan gets most of his stories from reddit or other sites. Well, this is digg, lets find our own. For every story that makes it to the FP there are 10 ones just as interesting that die in the upcoming section. I'm not sure guaranteeing half of all the FP spots for stories submitted by the top submitters is helping Digg find its own voice. Lets say MrBabyMan leaves too. Its not like he's the only one capable of submitting stories from other sites. He'll be replaced with someone without tons of followers who will mindlessly digg their stories.

      This drives into the ownership feeling of people on digg. People on digg deserve to have their stories get a real shot. Granted, anyone can technically FP a submission but the odds are against you unless you're a top submitter or have 100 people to send shout outs to. It is frustrating to submit good articles and have them go nowhere only to see them FP a few weeks later because a top submitter put it in. It's not about feeling popular, its about feeling like a valued member of the community rather than just someone else digging other stories.
    • macfan93, on 05/17/2008, -1/+7Saying, "I'll probably get dugg down, but..." is the easiest way to get dugg up
    • Gamer2k4, on 05/17/2008, -1/+5I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you want to get dugg up, suggest that you might get dugg down.
    • Jeepy, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1The truth is good submissions will get diggs regardless of who submitted them. But random submissions will make the FP with a bunch of people giving them automatic diggs. Case in point, look at the first 3 pages of top in 365 days, there isn't one submission from him. So if he's putting up so many high quality articles and he's been doing it for so long there should be some there, no?

      I think, and I might be off base here, is that his friends network's goal is to get his stories FP'd. Then when this happens they are treated with a general "that was ok" by the rest of the people who use the site. The story is submitted, gets auto FP'd, gets no more diggs, and just stays put 2-3k. Quality not quantity is something that should apply to any user's submissions.
  • jaychuck, on 05/17/2008, -45/+22Bye bye Baby.
  • Ocelot13, on 05/17/2008, -65/+275so, let me get this right, in every mrbabymen submission, the comments are full of people saying how much they dislike mrbabyman... but now that he said he may leave, everyone is acting like he was their best friend?
    gotta love the digg community.
    • Spudster, on 05/17/2008, -14/+8You won't see me shredding a tear. Good riddance.
      • alk509, on 05/17/2008, -1/+4"Shedding," son... "Shedding" a tear.
        • itsgotyou, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Well maybe he tears of pears. I think that's what it is, he's got pearducts.
    • Trentish, on 05/17/2008, -3/+58You do realize the Digg community is made up of more than one person, right?
    • kipmartin, on 05/17/2008, -4/+23dugg up because i dislike mrbabyman but he is my best friend.
    • keviniskool, on 05/17/2008, -0/+5Well yeah, the people who do like MrBabyMan aren't making comments about him because no one would care otherwise if they liked him.
    • ligyron, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2Everyone hates MrBabyMan because he is so universally liked
  • limezor2, on 05/17/2008, -42/+29Good, now every 5th Digg will be something not duped and ultra-dugg by the beast that is MrBabyMan.
  • MCA2142, on 05/17/2008, -16/+112Twitter, is there anything you can't do?
    • samw1ns, on 05/17/2008, -4/+47whats twitter?
      • samw1ns, on 05/17/2008, -0/+36no guys im serious
        • MCA2142, on 05/17/2008, -7/+3I tried explaining Twitter to a few people and I come out sounding like a dork.

          go to the site: www dot twitter dot com
        • GeekyGerge, on 05/17/2008, -5/+3It's like mass text messaging.
          But over the internets.
        • estvir, on 05/17/2008, -1/+16It's for people who like to pretend that others care about their boring and common lives.
        • bhjodokast, on 05/17/2008, -3/+0Twitter is a rip-off of Blue Puff Software's "The Aquarium".

          Twitter is a service, since people are too lazy to run their own web server.

          Here's the website: http://benjaminlindelof.tripod.com/bluepuff/theaqu ...

          GO BLUE PUFF GO!

    • psylence, on 05/17/2008, -0/+12Generate revenue?
    • h4mx0r, on 05/17/2008, -0/+5Give me a happy ending?
  • chkdg8, on 05/17/2008, -21/+128Can someone post a 'Noob' version of what's going on?
    • dawnraid101, on 05/17/2008, -84/+2Im digging you down, thats whats going on.
    • zongamin, on 05/17/2008, -10/+50He kills and eats kids?
    • digjam, on 05/17/2008, -9/+3In short
      if(MrBabyMan submits a story)
      Hit the front page
      else
      Good Luck.
      People want to hit frontpage , but they are no MyBabyMan!
      • Dobby156, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2no curly braces, clearly an amature on VB. lol, dugg
      • takua108, on 05/17/2008, -1/+4Pseudocode jokes got old awhile ago.
    • twiztidsinz, on 05/17/2008, -11/+12its a whole lot of ePenis envy and sad emo kids who cant hit the front page crying while they jerk off over MrBabyMan posts.
      • wissler, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1Sounds like the most plausible explanation.
    • KUKBAHLAM, on 05/17/2008, -2/+11It's also about a broken comment and submission system. It's about an experiment in social democracy that has broken down into a high-school popularity contest. People that have been members for a while are a bit nostalgic for the days when the front page wasn't a collage of Obama / Ron Paul articles and pictures from the lol cats. Mr. Babyman is a product of flaws in a system that can't or won't be fixed.
      • wissler, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2What specifically is wrong with the system?
    • chuckDontSurf, on 05/17/2008, -6/+6It's a bunch of pussies whining about inconsequential *****.
  • jaychuck, on 05/17/2008, -52/+40Seriously though, one time, MrBabyMan STOLE a submission from me.

    Let me explain: If you remember, MrBabyMan had a submission entitled "Geronimo!" featuring a GIF of a dog jumping out a window. I was super pissed when it hit the FP, because I submitted the same exact thing about a couple of days later. The only reason BabyMan even gets on the front page so often is because of his followers. The algorithm even prevents this, as a popular poster is supposed to have a much harder time getting on the FP as a regular digger does.

    PROOF
    MY ARTICLE - http://digg.com/pets_animals/Dog_jumps_out_of_car_ ...
    BABYMAN ARTICLE - http://digg.com/pets_animals/Geronimo_PIC (A full 5 days later)

    If anything, at the very, very least, he should take a good long week off and let Digg work without him. For his sake and the sake of his family, for goodness sake.
    • dawnraid101, on 05/17/2008, -19/+15GTFOver it.
    • earchew, on 05/17/2008, -8/+23That picture has been on most GIF websites for a very long time. It doesnt mean he copied only you. Unless you filmed the event and made the GIF can you call this stealing....
    • EmitStop, on 05/17/2008, -11/+13What difference does it make? You had your chance, and it didn't go anywhere. So, I don't see what the problem is, if nearly a week later Mr.BabyMan wants to give the GIF another shot at the front page.
      • jaychuck, on 05/17/2008, -6/+12The point is that it's BECAUSE of BabyMan that it got more popular.
        • EmitStop, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2So what? It's not like Mr. Babyman somehow caused yours to not get popular.
          If, in some alternate universe, Mr.Babyman didn't exist, chances are your article still would not have gotten popular.
    • AManWithNoName, on 05/17/2008, -3/+15Five days? That's not as short as you'd think. Odds are, if it didn't hit the front page after one day, it won't EVER. Now, he should give you credit (Assuming of course that he found it through your submission), like a comment linking to the original, but that's a minor detail IMHO.

      I've said it a thousand times: Digg is not a ranking system to see who finds the best ***** on the net. It's just a collection of cool stuff from around the net. If we were to remove the names from submissions, nobody would complain about resubmissions, because it wouldn't matter to them any more.
    • Ocelot13, on 05/17/2008, -3/+19oh i know exactly how you feel
      mine - http://digg.com/people/My_Sister_s_Secret_Life
      his- http://digg.com/people/My_Sister_s_Secret_Life_as_ ...

      same picture, exact same article.
      the only reason mine got so many diggs is because i said about how i submitted almost 2 days before mrbabyman submitted his and i put the link to mine in the comment
      • mcprogrammer, on 05/17/2008, -1/+12To be fair, about half of the people who dugg MrBabyMan's submission probably saw the word "porn" in the title and dugg it without even reading the description.
      • twiztidsinz, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2Agreed.... His Title > Your Title
        For all I know, your sister could be a Transvestite or a Hermaphrodite... Two things I really do not want to see. Now a Secret Pornstar... I'm all on that.
    • graduisic, on 05/17/2008, -2/+12MrBabyMan did use the same GIF, but your submission title is lame. He added a bit of humor; you made it sound like a news story or something.
    • Sheeplike, on 05/17/2008, -1/+7Does it really matter? At least the story made it to the front page to entertain the masses. Its a win win, you found something interesting and it made it to the front page. So what if your exact submission made it.
  • Akaji, on 05/17/2008, -28/+17Good riddance. Maybe some things of value will finally start hitting the frontpage instead of 95% of MrBabyMan's crap.
    • mark076h, on 05/17/2008, -6/+1only thing i don't like are his top 10 lists, where does he find that stuff anyways?
    • jaychuck, on 05/17/2008, -6/+5Remember his 21 MOST AMAZING UNDERWATER PICTURES (PIC) article? Absolute crap..
    • twiztidsinz, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Try 27%.... 27=/=95
  • clesch, on 05/17/2008, -39/+425Who gives a *****?
  • feliiiik, on 05/17/2008, -15/+40I've been lurking around digg for years but I've never payed attention to the "users" actually posting the articles. Maybe MrBabyMan wouldn't be a problem if you just came up with more witty titles


    im joking by the way :P
    • tandy400, on 05/17/2008, -7/+3"lurking" makes you sound like a rapist.
  • maxino, on 05/17/2008, -24/+14MrBabyMan, please reply....here
    • dawnraid101, on 05/17/2008, -21/+7***** YOu
      • LordofChaosIori, on 05/17/2008, -4/+17Wow... everyone's so angry...
        • 4UIDigg, on 05/17/2008, -2/+6true, everybody on Digg seems pissed off about something
        • DigiDave, on 05/17/2008, -4/+5Not only is everyone angry - they are angry about something other than MrBabyMan - but don't know where else to put it.

          MrBabyMan takes the brunt of diggers anger - when it isn't his fault.
        • nienhulm, on 05/17/2008, -2/+3Its just like being back in high school.
    • ScottDaMan, on 05/17/2008, -3/+1This.
      • trumpcard, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1Hi this is Mr.Babyman clone.Nice to reply to you sir.
  • dawnraid101, on 05/17/2008, -80/+75***** THING SUCKS

    ***** THE RIAA

    there we go two obligatory comments out of the way.
  • earchew, on 05/17/2008, -16/+10Didnt MrBabyMan submit the picture on the front page?
  • InstantRamen, on 05/17/2008, -48/+92MrBabyMan stay Sexy !
  • jmpeagle, on 05/17/2008, -17/+11they need to make the algorithm make it much harder for someone to reach the front page multiple times in a day. It is already somewhat incorporated into it, but it needs to be made more effective.
    • superkendall, on 05/17/2008, -3/+5Holy cow, why are you being dugg down? That's a great way to help diversity on a site that is rapidly becoming a singularity.
      • Spudster, on 05/17/2008, -1/+6I agree completely. Top diggers get there through gaming the system with other people. I say that if Digg detects the same group ALWAYS digging each others stuff, then it should take more Diggs for those articles to make it to the frontpage.
  • ileftfark, on 05/17/2008, -22/+26It doesn't matter, the system's already broken. Making the frontpage is based on as much merit as being elected prom queen. One MrBabyMan leaves, one NAMBLAfan1 steps up. Lamest line ever, but it actually applies (for once): Don't hate the playa, hate the algorithm. That is the saying, right?
    • WallnutBoy, on 05/17/2008, -3/+5Sadly, you're only being dugg down by people because (I assume) the diggers don't want a reason to not have a go at Mrbabyman.. The truth, though, is that you're absolutely right.. Even if MrBabyMan does eventually 'quit digg' (lol wtf), another guy will just pop up..
  • bicyclethief, on 05/17/2008, -23/+565Found a pic of MrBabyMan: http://www.picturebookmarking.com/galleries/upload ...
    • Ocelot13, on 05/17/2008, -28/+19no, his picture got released awhile ago
      http://i27.tinypic.com/nqplyh.jpg
    • dn11, on 05/17/2008, -0/+72woah... lol. but you do realize that their is a genuine video of mrbabyman, no?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhLoghrZ9vE
      • sjmulder, on 05/17/2008, -3/+9Not a Rick Roll.
      • Spudster, on 05/17/2008, -1/+10Cool to see he is willing to make fun of himself. But you can't but feel he contributes little in actual original content he found himself though.
      • tomjm5000, on 05/17/2008, -2/+37He seems like a nice guy.
        • noseeme, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1i think mrbabyman seems like a pretty cool guy. eh makes narcissistic videos about himself and doesn't afraid of anything.
      • Ocelot13, on 05/17/2008, -0/+9my god, they made his submissions into tv
        lame.. lame..dupe.. inaccurate.. spam...spam
      • deltron, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2Why is he MrBabyMan if he abuses his child! (0:50)
      • mrASSMAN, on 05/17/2008, -1/+3Haha, it would be a disaster if diggers were to find out what a nice guy he is. They might feel bad for wanting to put a steak through his heart.
    • DteK, on 05/17/2008, -1/+6for some reason that made me want to vomit.
    • InSurrender, on 05/17/2008, -2/+0Some Funny $hit
    • Tophillious, on 05/17/2008, -3/+3Pedobear approves
    • pigducksheep, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1I really don't know what to say about this.
    • anotherjeff, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1I KNEW IT!
    • theDrizzle, on 05/18/2008, -1/+1That is beyond disturbing...
  • AManWithNoName, on 05/17/2008, -49/+350This is ridiculous. If you don't like MrBabyMan, just block him and get on with your ***** non-life. There's no reason blocking him won't be good enough, he's not like some spammer who'll come back in a new account just to ***** with people...If you block him, you'll never see another post from him, and your life goes on, and so does everyone else's. Asking him to quit is pointless, rude, and just immature. May I remind you there is a human being on the other side of that computer that MrBabyMan uses?
    • shondell, on 05/17/2008, -7/+32totally agree, all you ***** obnoxious diggers who are wanting to have Babyman to quit just because his stories get dugg? Who the ***** do you think diggs them in the first place? Just block him you stupid *****.
      *****.
    • ohhoe, on 05/17/2008, -4/+25Who asked him to quit?

      It appears he said he was going to quit if everyone felt this way.
    • Tomboys, on 05/17/2008, -0/+10"May I remind you there is a human being on the other side of that computer that MrBabyMan uses?"
      Thank You! It's nice to see someone who is thoughtful and empathetic on digg.
    • DangerCollie, on 05/17/2008, -1/+3In every online game world, in every social media site there are always the "techinati" who form a core of power users. As the system grows sometimes those power users work themselves into real jobs. Whether they do or not they're a fact of life on every social media site, game and forum ever connected to the internet and it's been true ever since the internet was a defense department experimental network. I know, I was there. And before that it was true with bbs systems and ham radio networks. I'd bet you could go back far enough and find the same truth on clay tablets dried in the sun.

      Leave the dude alone and move along. If you have really strong opinions over something like this, I might suggest unplugging and engaging with real humans in meatspace for a little while.
      • ohhoe, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1All I read was blah blah blah blah blah.
    • nolesfan247, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2Couldn't have said it better myself.
    • Gamer2k4, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2We're not asking him to quit. He's whining that he'll quit in a pathetic bid for more attention than he already gets (which, I might add, could be considered pointless and immature).
  • LordofChaosIori, on 05/17/2008, -15/+9This is totally off-topic, but they should move the report button to where the reply button is now, I've accidentally reported people when trying to reply. :(
    Or...maybe it's just me, maybe I'm just stupid...
  • EvanVolm, on 05/17/2008, -51/+57I really don't give a rats ass if he stays or goes. All I know is that I'm getting a tad sick of seeing his name on the frontpage pretty much everyday. If he leaves, so be it. He isn't holding Digg together(what's left of it, that is). He acting like a...well...baby about it all.
  • legoalert33, on 05/17/2008, -19/+78Something not submitted by MrBabyMan?
  • shortysmyname, on 05/17/2008, -31/+65Sorry Mr. Babyman, it's the American way. Bring down anybody that shows some success or potential, and then support the village idiot instead. That way they can feel good about themselves again. Not that I'm calling anyone else here an idiot, but you get the idea.
    • skeletorcares, on 05/17/2008, -15/+4Uh, he is the village idiot. Anyone can open up reddit and submit a link from there, he just does that every 5 seconds. And has been doing it since the beginning of time. Ruining the frontpage for all us.
    • wissler, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Bingo.
    • Defuser, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1You people SERIOUSLY believe that posting a bunch of crap to a news blog makes a person "successful"? Holy *****. Just wait until you get that job as a Fry Cook at McDonalds when you graduate high school in eight years. You'll think you're Bill F'ing Gates.
  • smacksaw, on 05/17/2008, -19/+4How about this - He can stay, but he can only have 1 FP article every 48 hours.

    I submit several articles at a time, but honestly I could give two ***** if any of you read them. I post them to blog them to the people who read my blog. I think that's about the only reason to support multiple articles per day.
    • skeletorcares, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I'd be very happy with that solution.
  • shadus, on 05/17/2008, -17/+202I don't know who MrBabyMan is... and I really don't care. I digg what I like and I bury what I don't like. Seems like if more people on digg did that there wouldn't be as many issues. Does it even matter if one person gets on the frontpage a lot? no.