2 Pictures, 2 Kinds of Goodbye (PICS)
farm4.static.flickr.com — A snapshot of loss, captured in time. On this U.S. Memorial Day weekend, let us never forget the sacrifices made by those willing and proud to serve our country in its defense.
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- optimusprime01, on 05/26/2008, -251/+597These two pictures are priceless !!
Words can't do justice to the emotions depicted in them. It's well said, "Only those really know how it feels, who go through tragedy, pain and sufferings in their lives, an on looker or outside can't feel it the same way".
It almost made me cry, seeing how the two brothers are crying for each other in the first picture; knowing that they wont be able to see each other again, knowing that they wont be able to hold each other again, knowing that they wont be able to talk with each other again, knowing that this is the moment that will never ever ever come back.
I ask one simple question, how many more precious lives do we have to give , how many sons, brothers, husbands, fathers,wives, daughters and sisters do we have to take away for a useless war which has given us nothing but pain.
You be the judge, i rest my case.- theRedLasso, on 05/26/2008, -82/+7lets get the f out and let the iraqis murder each other instead of us.
i agree with Obama, american lives are worth more than iraq lives, so lets get out and let the slaughter begin. who gives a ***** about them. we're not stealling oil, that is evident in the gas prices, so lets just go home.
go O8ama!!!!!!- dbbblondon, on 05/26/2008, -2/+36you have so missed the point here it's unreal
- ninjacob, on 05/26/2008, -8/+4Really? Because that's what will happen. Get out of your fantasy land.
- chillmandan, on 05/26/2008, -4/+14Its that kind of America first attitude that Obama would probably not advocate. How about humanity first instead.
- hahafaha, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6"Humanity first" is an idiotic concept. The government has a responsibility to its own people first and foremost.
- bcerz811, on 05/26/2008, -4/+16all human life is precious.
- jasongbc, on 05/26/2008, -7/+5why?
- dlllb, on 05/26/2008, -5/+5Wrong! Humans are collectively DUMB and there are waaaay too many of us.
- bcerz811, on 05/26/2008, -2/+4k then so you won't mind if you're the first to go?
- Borgcube, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4You aren't stealing oil, but the oil prices are high because the oil companies want them to be that way.
Also, every live is worth the same. - brkhobowriter, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3You make me sad.
- below413, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1gobama?
- dbbblondon, on 05/26/2008, -2/+36you have so missed the point here it's unreal
- FeargusMcDuff, on 05/26/2008, -0/+109War is hell.
- Tomchei, on 05/26/2008, -14/+45Why can't the Israelis fight their own damn war.
- jasongbc, on 05/26/2008, -15/+34they're too busy running that holocaust on palestine
- fatcitycolorado, on 05/26/2008, -9/+8You can say many things about the way the Israelis are handling the conflict with the Palestinians but it is extremely ignorant to categorize situation as a "holocaust." Yes, violence is prevalent in the struggle but the Jews are not rounding up Palestinians for a methodical extermination. Surely you can see this?
- artofwar420, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2Killing a bunch of people for being "something, or from somewhere" is not that? Both sides of the conflict are at fault, I don't know what can done to end this.
- NoStoppingUs, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2if we made international policy decisions based on emotion, we would have lost ww2. (and many others) history will judge our current situation much differently.
- kroftakrofta, on 07/26/2008, -0/+1They use US army as a proxy to justified their means...
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- Tomchei, on 05/26/2008, -14/+45Why can't the Israelis fight their own damn war.
- Oddish, on 05/26/2008, -25/+74"Priceless" is not the word I would use, and definitely not with exclamation points.
- Goodfeeling32, on 05/26/2008, -31/+7Seriously, ***** you OptimusPrime0 for using the word priceless to describe this kind of picture like if it was good entertainement for you.
I hope english is just not your main language- giveer, on 05/26/2008, -0/+19easy there Mr cocknballs, did you actually READ his comment? I understand the common use of 'priceless' to mean 'funny' but it is also used to describe treasure, extremely uncommon items or things of incredible sentimental value.
Instead of getting pissed at a stranger and flaming out in a comment board, take a few minutes and expand your vocabulary. - rawnnie, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4I agree giveer. Use some brains Goodfeelings, or if you don't have them, stop being arrogant. The word priceless means there can be no amount of material money that can match the image. There's nothing negative about his connotation and if you actually read his whole message, it's very sensible. Now go crawl back into your hole.
- manacit2, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2Priceless - invaluable: having incalculable monetary, intellectual, or spiritual worth
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
I hope English is not your main language. - Goodfeeling32, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1I apologize, sorry OptimusPrime0
- giveer, on 05/26/2008, -0/+19easy there Mr cocknballs, did you actually READ his comment? I understand the common use of 'priceless' to mean 'funny' but it is also used to describe treasure, extremely uncommon items or things of incredible sentimental value.
- OkydOky, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3Mister Goodfeeling32,
Next time, Before you go ranting off, please educate yourself in the meaning of the word that makes you angry.
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These Pictures are indeed priceless.- Oddish, on 05/27/2008, -0/+11. having a value beyond all price; invaluable: a priceless artwork.
2. delightfully amusing or absurd: a priceless anecdote.
The fact that the second definition exists should be enough reason to stay away from that word in this context. But enough of this arguing over a word...
- Oddish, on 05/27/2008, -0/+11. having a value beyond all price; invaluable: a priceless artwork.
- Goodfeeling32, on 05/26/2008, -31/+7Seriously, ***** you OptimusPrime0 for using the word priceless to describe this kind of picture like if it was good entertainement for you.
- Soulbow2, on 05/26/2008, -8/+66I'm sending this to President Bush.
EDIT: Actually, I'm hearing him speak this weekend, I'll get him to sign an autograph on it.- Enendar, on 05/26/2008, -1/+32Bring a friend with a camera and post a digg story letting us know how that goes.
- Mejari, on 05/26/2008, -1/+23"DONT TASE ME BRO!"
- smpx, on 05/26/2008, -3/+1PLEASE scan the autographed picture and upload it here if you can get it.
- frappe987, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Show me the money I will digg you up no I will DIGG YOU UP forever! What could top that? eBay it and donate the money to the Veterans Hospital.
- sragland, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1please do...really
- Gephoria, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1good luck with that
- Enendar, on 05/26/2008, -1/+32Bring a friend with a camera and post a digg story letting us know how that goes.
- chillmandan, on 05/26/2008, -20/+42"priceless"....really man? Let's try and be a little more tactful next time.
- jasongbc, on 05/26/2008, -5/+1"fair warning" might have been better
- rompom7, on 05/26/2008, -0/+22I don't see a problem with using the word in the literal sense. You cannot put a price on that picture, it is priceless.
The problem with what he said is to do with the overuse of the word to mean some flashy sensational thing in todays culture (esp. digg -- every second picture is apparently 'priceless') and the unnecessary exclamation marks just left a bad aftertaste.
Look back 50 years the word 'priceless' would be given to say, an irreplaceable piece of art; it would never be used to describe a prank or a funny situation (as it often does today) - BenKenobi88, on 05/26/2008, -14/+1@rompom7, but it does imply a funny situation, so it isn't good to use here. Who would want to put a price on something like this in the first place? Priceless is not the word at all.
- giveer, on 05/26/2008, -0/+9You have noticed that you....:
Line 1: ... disagreed with him.
Line 2: ... agreed with him.
Line 3: ... disagreed with him.
....right? - rawnnie, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3It does NOT imply any funny situation. Use some intelligence, BenKenobi88.
- giveer, on 05/26/2008, -0/+9You have noticed that you....:
- gekkoeye, on 05/26/2008, -1/+14dictionary.com for priceless:
1. having a value beyond all price; invaluable: a priceless artwork.
2. delightfully amusing or absurd: a priceless anecdote.
I don't see the problem since I doubt he meant 2. - br0ken1128, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6I think priceless is very appropriate, how can you put a price on such emotion?
Just because it's a catch phrase doesn't make it untrue..- SilverAcid, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1Touché.
- Kakcoo, on 05/26/2008, -13/+18Funny how everyone just avoid digging you up or down because of your very touchy war poetry/propaganda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda- iticu, on 05/26/2008, -0/+8Yes, i'm sure we all need teaching on what propoganda is.
- DemocraticBean, on 05/27/2008, -0/+0I didn't digg him up or down because while he makes an extremely good point, the "i rest my case" at the end made him seem entirely self-righteous.
- Goodfeeling32, on 05/26/2008, -15/+5"Priceless"? I hope you're going to apologize for a misuse of language cuz' this is not the appropriate word to use at all.
- directive0, on 05/26/2008, -0/+7http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=priceles ...
Try again.
- directive0, on 05/26/2008, -0/+7http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=priceles ...
- mainepc, on 05/26/2008, -10/+22Yeah, let's take this moment between two brothers and politicize it.
What a wonderful way to honor those that have given their lives in service to our country.- jasongbc, on 05/26/2008, -6/+12how exactly was this service to your country and not just service to some politicians whims?
- ElderBieler, on 05/26/2008, -12/+6How about the fact that despite mismanagement of the war, there has been zero attacks on Americans since then? Or, that even multi-national averages put Al-Q and affiliate terrorist organizations at 22% of their operating power as compared to before the Iraq war. Or, that terrorist attacks globally have dropped more than 50% because of disrupting of their finances and the killing a good chunk of their front line trigger pullers.
Or, the most important point; in the case of those serving you. One needs to base opinion on the intent of their hearts. If you are carrying heavy bags and a person walks up and takes one of them to help you, you count it service; maybe you didn't need or want the help but, that person did serve with pure intent, and that service and heart is worth respect and praise.
I'm amazed at the shallowness and lack of depth of your comment. - ichbeineinrcg, on 05/26/2008, -0/+11I think that the thousands of dead soldiers sort of refute your point that there have been zero attacks on Americans since the war started. You could mean to say zero attacks in America, which begs this question: How many attacks happened on American soil in the 7 years previous to 9/11?
I don't trust your stats and would love to see a citation. As to the decrease in terrorist attacks, I'd suspect it's just a matter of classification--when we made terrorism a war, every act of terrorism immediately became an act of war. This isn't an upgrade. - Myonosken, on 05/26/2008, -1/+7@elder: You had one attack before the war you ***** moron. That is it. The only reason you've not suffered any since, unlike other countries, is because you've had all your rights removed in the name of security.
- Mejari, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4@Myonosken: There's no evidence to support the claim that any of Bush's stripping away of rights has had any affect on terrorists' ability to operate in the US. The Bush Administration is always telling us that we haven't had another attack because of their 'great leadership' and their protection, but I'd like to see the proof of that before I concede that point.
- ElderBieler, on 05/26/2008, -4/+41 attack? I'm the moron? USS Cole, 2 different embassy bombings, Beirut, Lebanon, etc. Where the hell have you been? You think we've been attacked once?
An in the case of how this administration has affected our current security, here is a report by the Heritage Foundation.
Case dismissed you commie-libs.
http://www.heritage.org/research/Homelanddefense/u ... - s3rgi0, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2wasn't there an embassy destroyed around two months ago?
- petrodollar, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1The universe has not exploded since I was born.
You are welcome. - SilverAcid, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1@Elder: You may wish to also add to your post that the Heritage Foundation is a self-proclaimed conservative think-tank. This, therefore, would be a biased report on the "war on terror". Please explain why you think that this citation is an appropriate defense for your argument. Since the Heritage Foundation has "What would Reagan Do?" plastered across their homepage (www.heritage.org), I'm loath to accept your initial statements on your word (and that of the Heritage Foundation) without more.
- ElderBieler, on 05/26/2008, -12/+6How about the fact that despite mismanagement of the war, there has been zero attacks on Americans since then? Or, that even multi-national averages put Al-Q and affiliate terrorist organizations at 22% of their operating power as compared to before the Iraq war. Or, that terrorist attacks globally have dropped more than 50% because of disrupting of their finances and the killing a good chunk of their front line trigger pullers.
- CiXeL, on 05/26/2008, -4/+2mainepc, ***** you. bush toady
- papaslurp, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2The best way to honor those who have given their lives is to do everything we can to get all survivors the ***** out of a war so fruitless that it has created more problems than it has solved.
- jasongbc, on 05/26/2008, -6/+12how exactly was this service to your country and not just service to some politicians whims?
- LoveWidescreen, on 05/26/2008, -9/+3Just so you know, you'd probably have hundreds of diggs if it wasn't for the totally unnecessary politicizing in the last two paragraphs.
- LoveWidescreen, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Wonderful. Just freaking wonderful. He actually already HAS a ton of diggs, but this "new" Digg setup showed that he had a ranking of ONE on my screen. So, I comment on it, get buried, only to see that it corrected itself after I put a rank to the original comment!
Thanks a ton, Digg! I love how well you guys test your code before deploying it!
- LoveWidescreen, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Wonderful. Just freaking wonderful. He actually already HAS a ton of diggs, but this "new" Digg setup showed that he had a ranking of ONE on my screen. So, I comment on it, get buried, only to see that it corrected itself after I put a rank to the original comment!
- silverbulletky, on 05/26/2008, -9/+10Digg me down, but most that enlist want to be in battle. If they are not fighting they are looking to find the fight. Watch Jarhead.. while the movie sucked it's true in that regard.
- richiewrt, on 05/26/2008, -2/+1*****, No one enlist to go out and be shot at.
- petrodollar, on 05/26/2008, -4/+1Many of them want to go to college too but Bush and McCain say no, three years in Iraq isn't good enough to deserve that.
- thund3rstruck, on 05/26/2008, -4/+19" let us never forget the sacrifices made by those willing and proud to serve our country in its defense"
Since when are these current troops serving in defense of the country? They're serving in offense to the country, waging a war against a sovereign that posed no threat to the US or the free world. I'm a veteran myself and memorial day is important to me, more so then most, but don't try to justify this aggressive US war in Iraq based on the deaths of soldiers fighting for a unjustifiable cause.- quaxon, on 05/26/2008, -4/+5Youre not a patriot if you dont believe they are defending this country (and by 'this country' i mean defending the rights of corporations to exploit the third world and steal their resources for a hefty profit no average citizen will ever see).
- noobishned, on 05/26/2008, -4/+9"knowing that they wont be able to see each other again"
Are you kidding? This is very sad and all but the guy is going off to war with the expectations of coming home after he has fulfilled what he signed up for. Honestly he better be expecting to come home. - f54280, on 05/26/2008, -2/+4Oil prices continue to go up, military contractors continues to have truckloads of money, so at least he did not die for nothing...
- BrianSaysHi, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6WTF? 15 repies and only one digg and no buries?
- Mikhail101, on 05/26/2008, -8/+3does anyone hold there brothers, seriously?
- nickmv, on 05/26/2008, -6/+1wow, that was really tasteless on your part. I hope what occurred in this picture ends up happening to you...
- mortey, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4regardless of Mikhail101's statement, I don't think it is right to wish that upon anyone.
- Mikhail101, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1No i was refering to the statement above, he said they will never be able to hold each other again, do brothers hold each other?
- nickmv, on 05/26/2008, -6/+1wow, that was really tasteless on your part. I hope what occurred in this picture ends up happening to you...
- sporefrog, on 05/26/2008, -1/+7And let's not forget about the hundreds of thousands of brave and innocent Iraqis who also lost brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, and friends NEEDLESSLY. They're NO LESS important than the American deaths.
- hahafaha, on 05/26/2008, -2/+0WTF are you talking about? *Of course* they're less important. Americans are paying for their own interests with taxes. They are not paying for the interests of Iraqis.
- BattleScars, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1The war in Iraq was originally 'meant' to liberate Iraqis from oppression. Saying that the war was never meant to help Iraqis basically makes out that you see it as an "us-versus-them" situation in which all Iraqis are evil. Ironically, you convey a common view: that the war in Iraq is now basically a crusade in which the US is wiping out the undesirables in the world. The Iraqis cheered when US troops first entered Baghdad, do you think they're cheering now?
- kroftakrofta, on 07/26/2008, -0/+1yes.. you pay for murderer..
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- hahafaha, on 05/26/2008, -2/+0WTF are you talking about? *Of course* they're less important. Americans are paying for their own interests with taxes. They are not paying for the interests of Iraqis.
- Ogopogo, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2Did he really think he was "defending his country"? Did he think he had no other option but to volunteer?
I hope his sign-up bonus/incentive was worth it... in some cases they are asked to pay it back if they get injured and can't complete their tour. - hahafaha, on 05/26/2008, -3/+6Sir --
Consider what you just said.
First of all, the brothers clearly *did not* know that they'll never again see each other. Had they known that, they'd likely never part in the first place.
Second, in response to your question: "I ask one simple question, how many more precious lives do we have to give , how many sons, brothers, husbands, fathers,wives, daughters and sisters do we have to take away for a useless war which has given us nothing but pain."
It is the duty of a country to protect its citizens, and wage war when it is in their interests. This war proved somewhat two-sided in this respect, but saying that it has "given us nothing but pain" is absurd. It has unseated an incredibly dangerous, Stalinist dictator. It has given us a base from which to wage American interests in the East. It's painful, but it has to be done.- Feraldr00d, on 09/25/2008, -0/+0 @ hahafaha,
America put both Osama Bin Laden AND Saddam Hussein in their seats of power. We set up the discourse between Iraq and Iran in order to pick up the peaces and establish democracy, i.e. wait for their gov'ts to crumble and put ours in its place to neutralize a threat. America has been a war machine since WW2, when Eisenhower realized that we were the only unscathed superpower in the world. He fore fronted the military-industrial complex that has been running our nation for decades. The gov't has come to control most of our media by releasing information that benefits what they want to do. In other words, they release information that would make the population believe we were winning a war until it's too obvious we are losing to ignore. Vietnam, for example. The bureaucrats and policy makers in the Pentagon literally make money off of war through weapons industry contracts that they have ties in. Therefore, they push to go to war because THEY MAKE THE MONEY. We haven't demilitarized since we were in WW2 as I stated earlier. Why did we go after Saddam in Desert Storm? Well, he invaded Kuwait, obviously in search of conquest. What's directly under Kuwait? Saudi Arabia, our provider for oil. Oil lets us run the machines to wage war. Well, we couldn't risk him taking over Saudi Arabia and jeopardizing our supply of oil. the attacks on 9/11 mostly involved Saudi Arabian terrorists. Why didn't we bomb them? Iraq had 0 to do with it. In fact, Osama and Hussein hated each other. This is the story of America since the 40s. We fight under the military-industrial complex to further our standing as a superpower by either maintaining our status, via oil supply and powerful military, or outright seizing governments under a nation's nose. Why did no one go into Iraq with an evacuation date, or plan for that matter? We never planned on leaving, we took their government, no matter the media tells you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfetdjjb3YY
"Why We Fight"
Good movie, watch it. It's in 11 parts.
- Feraldr00d, on 09/25/2008, -0/+0 @ hahafaha,
- digglet08, on 07/15/2008, -0/+0why do you have to make it political?
- theRedLasso, on 05/26/2008, -82/+7lets get the f out and let the iraqis murder each other instead of us.
- bperin, on 05/26/2008, -19/+757exceptionally moving
- TheMime, on 05/26/2008, -3/+33"A single death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic."
-Stalin- dOOBiEx213, on 05/26/2008, -2/+14-Call of duty
- mamboboy, on 05/26/2008, -4/+1-marilyn manson
- artofwar420, on 05/26/2008, -2/+1oK???
- KarlLiu, on 05/27/2008, -0/+0It's declaim to others,not to himself.
- aenima987, on 05/26/2008, -2/+4See, some of MrBabyMan's stories can be alright. This one was the best I've dugg all day. Not to say that there aren't ***** ones, but that's beside the point. One of the most moving pictures I've ever seen, ***** this war.
- skcoder, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1This is a war on religious extremists.
Regardless of your existent or non-existent religious views, when a group of people have the belief system that they must kill people who disagree with their religion, it becomes a global issue. This is especially true today when there are nuclear bombs and advanced technology involved.
Just look on Youtube at the videos of rockets being fired into cities. These extremists are willing to die in order to rid themselves of western culture.
I sure don't have a solution to the problem but unfortunately the "war on terrorism" is what the people in charge have come up with and I certainly hope it helps stabilize the middle east, even if this involves purging the dangerous extremists.- MadMonk67, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1Unfortunately, there are certain thick-skulled groups of people who will only begin to understand this once the next building begins to collapse on them.
- skcoder, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1This is a war on religious extremists.
- kchee87, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2Aye.
- danielvutran, on 05/27/2008, -3/+0-danielvutran
- TheMime, on 05/26/2008, -3/+33"A single death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic."
- fathermarlow, on 05/26/2008, -14/+499Words cannot suffice the sentiment and power of this picture.
- WCL23, on 05/26/2008, -18/+17I agree.
MrBabyMan has YET AGAIN stolen it though, and by the looks of it, stolen it from the friend of the guy in the photo!
http://digg.com/political_opinion/This_is_my_frien ...
***** you MrBabyMan, no wonder everyone hates you, you *****.- suminona, on 05/26/2008, -5/+3He may have stolen it (I didn't check), but if the submission was never duplicated, would we have had the chance to see it on the front page?
What we could do is have MrBabyMan state in the description that the original submission was by someone else, so we can have it reach the front page while giving the first guy some credit.
But then again, that assumes that MrBabyMan is willing to share thunder. - DarkAlpine, on 05/26/2008, -5/+6Quite literally, who the ***** cares.
You bring something totally unrelated to an article of something that's deeper than your mere hurt pride.
Get the ***** out. - gsp9216, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1i'm going to digg every single one of MrBabyMans submissions just to piss off everyone who hates him. seriously, who cares what he submits?
- suminona, on 05/26/2008, -5/+3He may have stolen it (I didn't check), but if the submission was never duplicated, would we have had the chance to see it on the front page?
- Lewand, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1Well, as an ROTC cadet, it makes me a little sick
- Canadiangeezer, on 05/26/2008, -3/+1This Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove, REPUBLICAN administration has squandered the lives of so many on “The Wars” … The brief flicker of such heartrending images continues to occasionally appear on digital screens across America … but so often they are not seen as the shame of the suffering is hidden from the mass of the public behind 'Distractions' like American Idol or Dancing with the Stars -- Such a Shame ...
I pray for the American men and women in uniform … but prayers will in themselves not be enough .. you will need to search your souls and come to action soon or it will be a long and hard time for all whom we love and cherish ....
"Absalom my son; my son Absalom; oh that I had died for thee, Absalom, my son, my son." - FlynnRocks, on 05/26/2008, -3/+1The word hilarious comes to mind.
- WCL23, on 05/26/2008, -18/+17I agree.
- dotlizard, on 05/26/2008, -89/+2132hate this war. hate this war. hate this war.
- GGIII, on 05/26/2008, -11/+111I cannot possibly dig you up enough.
- XaulZan, on 05/26/2008, -0/+8lol seriously i signed on to my other account and dugg that comment again
- CaRnlvOr, on 06/03/2008, -1/+1nerd!
- XaulZan, on 05/26/2008, -0/+8lol seriously i signed on to my other account and dugg that comment again
- reyoo30309, on 05/26/2008, -20/+53Dude, this is the reality of all war. Ones worth fighting and ones not so worth it.
- twiztidsinz, on 05/26/2008, -3/+114But at least the ones worth fighting for are worth dying for.
This is neither worth fighting for nor dying for.- ninjacob, on 05/26/2008, -44/+3Really? Because many people were against the US joining WW2 and fighting the Nazis. Which side would you have been on?
- marx2k, on 05/26/2008, -0/+36ninjacob, the Iraqis are not Nazis.
- housewarmer, on 05/26/2008, -0/+30ninjacob -
Really?! Your analogy is even weaker because in this case WE were the aggressors invading a sovereign nation for economic reasons. - Akronos, on 05/26/2008, -0/+33Well, apparently ninjacob would have been on the side of the Nazis since pre-emptively invading third world nations who did no harm to the aggressor nation is how he rolls.
- isojuuta, on 09/26/2008, -0/+0Me also.
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- rpgmaker, on 05/26/2008, -8/+2Exactly.
"Sinners and hypocrites
Burning in the desert for a rich man
Liars and lunatics
Lead us to the slaughter for our last stand
Killers and idiots
Dying in the desert for a rich man
Sinners and hypocrites
Gather us together for the master plan"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwMsxsZdvIE
- twiztidsinz, on 05/26/2008, -3/+114But at least the ones worth fighting for are worth dying for.
- Morghin, on 05/26/2008, -7/+67Just this war... ?
- sakuraz, on 05/26/2008, -1/+24It'll be hard to top this war in terms of Lack of justification.
- marx2k, on 05/26/2008, -2/+18sakuraz: War on Drugs
- airstrike, on 05/26/2008, -0/+9there is plenty of justification for this war, just not the morally acceptable kind.
- phike, on 05/26/2008, -2/+2marx2k: "War on Drugs" is not an actual war, just like the "War on Christmas"
sakuraz: you are right, but what matters is justifying ending this war. While I think there is plenty of that, not everyone in Washington can see it. - twiztidsinz, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5Last I checked... No one's house was ever raided, their family's torn apart and people shot and killed in this so-called "War on Christmas".
If the War on Drugs is not a real war, then what makes a war?
Innocents being killed? check.
Land and Property being seized? check.
People being afraid? check. - lamiaconfitor, on 05/26/2008, -2/+1marx2k; yeah but at least there has to be probable cause for the government to act in that war...
- marx2k, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1phike" the "war" we're in now isn't an actual war either ;)
- sakuraz, on 05/26/2008, -1/+24It'll be hard to top this war in terms of Lack of justification.
- justinmorley, on 05/26/2008, -16/+87This is not war, this is murder on the American middle and lower class by the Bush Administration, because God knows no wealthy person is being sent over to Iraq.
- AbsurdParadox, on 05/26/2008, -22/+5Newsflash. The Bush Administration isn't the only one guilty of waging wars, here in America or around the world. You have a problem with Government itself, my friend.
- bushisafag, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3Bush and ***** (Inc.) however, did lead the mental midgets that are your typical Americans into buying into this war.
I remember all the a-holes rushing home from work to watch the war on prime time. - zeusthemoose, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3You are an idiot if you think that. Using obvious red herrings does not make you right. Yeah, other wars have been fought and many justly so. Not all war is wrong, sometimes it is a necessary evil. But if you think the Iraq fiasco was justified, you have another thing coming.
- lamiaconfitor, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Bushisafag... Bush and ***** is an LLC.
- bushisafag, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3Bush and ***** (Inc.) however, did lead the mental midgets that are your typical Americans into buying into this war.
- XyZeR, on 05/26/2008, -11/+3And you seem to have a problem with common sense and reason...
- mass922, on 05/26/2008, -15/+6Several of my rich, WASP, upper class fraternity brothers are serving in the armed forces right now.
We are probably all just as proud, if not more than you are to defend this great country that our fathers worked so hard to build.- winampman2, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6Theres nothing to defend... we're on the offensive. But they're still honorably serving our country, which we can appreciate.
- skcoder, on 05/27/2008, -1/+0"The best defense is a good offense."
- Dystisis, on 05/26/2008, -8/+12If only Americans were the only ones dying from the war...
- IllBeBack, on 05/26/2008, -2/+9...then it would be ok with you?
- diggrnumber1, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1that doesn't mean it's not a war though
- hahafaha, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1What do you suggest, then? That we force wealthy people to go to war so the poor don't have to die? You must realise, sir, that nobody is forcing the poor to fight. They do so because it provides them with an opportunity for success, an opportunity they'd otherwise not have.
- scubaman5000, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Which means added pressure on the poor to fight in a war that the wealthy don't need to worry about. I think that was his point...
- BJLStorm, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1Life is more important than money... moron.
- richiewrt, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1No wealthy people go to war? Not true. Maybe not as many, because it is simple statistics that there are more "not wealthy" people in America, so there are more in the armed services. I knew several people in my squadron while I was in who were very wealthy, they chose to be there to serve there country, not because they were wealthy or poor.
- AbsurdParadox, on 05/26/2008, -22/+5Newsflash. The Bush Administration isn't the only one guilty of waging wars, here in America or around the world. You have a problem with Government itself, my friend.
- killermatt, on 05/26/2008, -3/+12I wish the majority of the population could redirect emotions felt from this war (such as emotions from this pic) into ending it....There's been too many times I've seen energy that could've been used in a beneficial way. but instead used to generate more hate. Think of the opinions in classrooms around the world in a couple of years when reliving this war in the form of textbooks. All of the unanswered questions...........
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1puff puff pass
- SuminderJi, on 05/26/2008, -13/+77hate all wars, hate all wars, hate all wars.
- Akraz, on 05/26/2008, -9/+8Dugg because you are awesome
- AriaStar, on 05/26/2008, -2/+6However, some have been needed. Loss of life is always terrible, but there HAVE been a few justified wars. Too bad what we've been seeing in our lifetimes aren't those. We're not fighting for human right or safety. I actually don't know what the hell the war is about anymore. Bush is rich enough. I think he's trying to ensure his name will never be forgotten.
- iticu, on 05/26/2008, -0/+12So true. If you like war, then you're a monster.
Even when it's necessary, you should hate it.
Though, sadly, the Iraq war isn't necessary.- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1citation needed
how many terror attacks have there been in the US since 2003?
Well, how about france? england? Iran? Iraq? Israel?
That's math even Al Gore would agree with.
Enough said.
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1citation needed
- Deviant_Tech, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2I cannot possibly dig you up enough.
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2have you seen rambo? no not the original, the new one? well you're that guy on the boat who bitches at rambo for killing the guys who were going to rape his wife, while he cowers in fear in the shadow of evil.
there are idealistic views, then there is the real world.
- ThatBlokeRob, on 05/26/2008, -1/+12"To jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war." - Winston Churchill
Just wish more would take heed and learn from history. - CaRnlvOr, on 05/26/2008, -8/+5this is just starting to make me very mad!!!! i also hate this war!
- AriaStar, on 05/26/2008, -2/+15Why can't this goddamned war just end already?! What the ***** are we there for?!
- patch6, on 05/26/2008, -8/+2Look at the current crop of presidential frontrunners. All warmongers.
People vote for this *****. - carpespasm, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3We're there so Haliburton, KBR, OPEC, Exxon, and Shell can make bank while Iraqis and US soldiers die to hold the lid on the pressure-cooker of the Iraq civil war. Please note that most of the high-level members of the Bush administration have a heavy tie to those companies.
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1(sic)
- patch6, on 05/26/2008, -8/+2Look at the current crop of presidential frontrunners. All warmongers.
- rockon4life45, on 05/26/2008, -35/+4somebody gave their life for this war and all you can do is say you hate?
gtfo our country
now- busket, on 05/26/2008, -2/+15You don't understand, and that fact that people like you don't understand is why we're in this stupid ***** war.
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -2/+1no its cause people like you supported it (77% of americans) when it started, now peope like you (71%) disprove of it.
you claimed you were misinformed - did you know you were at the time? How do you know your not at the opposite end of the mongering now? - busket, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2I never claimed I was misinformed. The idiocy of this war has never been in doubt by me. The fact that you think it makes sense to call me out on something that has nothing to do with me is a great example of the kind of half-informed hubris that got us in to this mess in the first place.
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -2/+1no its cause people like you supported it (77% of americans) when it started, now peope like you (71%) disprove of it.
- diggrnumber1, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3i'm actually surprised by the low number of hate comments for this picture. most people are criticizing the war - not the individual.
- KJGJ, on 05/26/2008, -1/+4If you're not in uniform fighting on the front lines like that brave soldier, brother, and loved one then you should get the ***** out of our country you ignorant bumper sticker patriot.
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2you have the blood on your hands as well, even all the way up there on your throne
- Cagnazzo82, on 05/27/2008, -1/+4***** you rockon4life, ***** George W Bush, and ***** *his* war.
- enki25, on 05/27/2008, -1/+4Don't speak for my ***** country retard. Go learn what it means to be a citizen of the united states of america and tell me one good reason a patriot wouldn't hate this war.
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1womens rights and extremism
there i gave you 2
i hope none of you whine about gas prices.........cause its either or....
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1womens rights and extremism
- IKORKYI, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2believe me when i tell you, you are all just as mis-informed now as you were when you supported the war when it started.
this war was necessary, this war saved american lives.
when was the last terror attack in the US? When was the last terror attack internationally? France? England? Enough said. - ekdevdas, on 08/04/2008, -1/+1if mccain wins, i promise you there will be another attack.
- busket, on 05/26/2008, -2/+15You don't understand, and that fact that people like you don't understand is why we're in this stupid ***** war.
- MasterLevi, on 05/26/2008, -1/+5I believe that this is one of those things that it's good to hate.
- FoxMcCloud1, on 05/26/2008, -8/+3What kind of tar tar signs up to fight for a war. Seems kinda dangerous. Tar- Nation!
- CiXeL, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3its stuff like this i wish people would take up arms and revolt.
criminals running this country and killing us and we're doing nothing to stop it.
just keep feeding the people fast food to fatten them up and reality tv to keep them entertained and you wont have to worry about a thing.
there should be masses of people on the whitehouse lawn storming the gates in response to stuff like this.
when they start opening fire at us citizens storming the whitehouse you will know what kind of government is really running this place.- scubaman5000, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1You wish other people would do what you think should be done? Isn't that was is truly wrong with humanity as a whole?
- AimlessAbyss, on 05/26/2008, -8/+5Somehow, this inevitably has to turn political.
- robeph, on 05/27/2008, -2/+1How could it not? This "war" if I may call this a "war" without submitting "war" as meaning the actual typical use of "war" when we have one, as no declaration of said war was ever actually made, I digress. This whole 'war' is a HIGHLY polarized situation here, its very BASIS is political, we sure the hell aren't there for fun, because Iraq was threatening to our toppling Rome, or because we actually gave a ***** about the Iraqis. We no all three of those are not why. It falls somewhere between political catchup with the father and finishing up what he didn't during George senior's period in office and an economical boom for the contractor services from some close buddies with bad accounting. Take your pick. It's policial, it will remain political, and thinking anything else would be silly.
- fugazied, on 05/26/2008, -3/+4***** War.
- theDrizzle, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2it's even more of a shame because it's not even a war...a bunch of ***** morons thought it would be a good idea to not follow the law and invade a sovereign nation for reasons that didn't actually exist. damn shame...
- Hangly, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2And congratulations on the most dugg comment ever.
- rda1441, on 05/26/2008, -8/+3Very short sighted....war creates peace.
- scubaman5000, on 05/26/2008, -2/+4Not this one
- rda1441, on 05/26/2008, -3/+1All Wars create peace. It's human nature to fight...we have to embrace it.
- seraph582, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2most significant wars do, yes. This one - meh - not so much.
- rda1441, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1All wars do. no matter what.
- leandrotami, on 07/10/2008, -0/+0The cemetery kind of peace, right?
- scubaman5000, on 05/26/2008, -2/+4Not this one
- BattleScars, on 05/27/2008, -2/+3sentence fragment. sentence fragment. sentence fragment.
- Trav3133, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1you are so cool. want to be my new best friend. i have been looking for a new best friend to boss me around.
- lochness, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1George Carlin said it best... "A war is when TWO armies are fighting.."
This is not a war... it's an invasion turned occupation turned police action, turned SCREW UP. - jpurdy, on 06/01/2008, -0/+0Courtesy of George W. Bush, the neocons, and the extreme right wing that put him in office
- GGIII, on 05/26/2008, -11/+111I cannot possibly dig you up enough.
- pearcey, on 05/26/2008, -223/+124Make Soup, Not War.
- griz, on 05/26/2008, -16/+13I hope you weren't trying to be funny.
- evilpoptart, on 05/26/2008, -4/+10i hope your not taking things too seriously.
- fcukthisgame, on 05/26/2008, -0/+7y-o-u-APOSTROPHE-r-e
- Matt174e, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1Soup Nazi > Grammar Nazi
- evilpoptart, on 05/26/2008, -4/+10i hope your not taking things too seriously.
- jumico, on 05/26/2008, -3/+40No soup for you
- fas2, on 05/26/2008, -2/+6That was predictable.
- deadvillain, on 05/26/2008, -2/+1NEXT!
- fas2, on 05/26/2008, -2/+6That was predictable.
- evilpoptart, on 05/26/2008, -6/+6french onion?
- thefandango, on 05/26/2008, -0/+13freedom onion.
- suspid, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Make yourself a nice big cup of Shut The ***** Up, not stupid comments
- griz, on 05/26/2008, -16/+13I hope you weren't trying to be funny.
- Deodrus, on 05/26/2008, -85/+26...
- JohnsonGotOwned, on 05/26/2008, -19/+3Screw you. People die so you can sit at your computer, and you don't care.You can show some respect. My 2 year old cousin can. It's not hard.
- tehbored, on 05/26/2008, -1/+6Is there something I'm not getting? Was his comment deleted/changed or something?
- Phridge, on 05/26/2008, -4/+2Not as many people would die if there wasn't a war.
It's ***** a tragedy. - Deodrus, on 05/26/2008, -1/+15The pictures left me speechless.
That was the point of my comment.- yayintertubes, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3Screw y... oh right.
- wolberwj, on 05/26/2008, -2/+2Then say, "This picture left me speechless..."
- BattleScars, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1I think he forgot that we can't see him.
- Deodrus, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2But then it wouldn't be "speechless" if I'm using speech, would it?
Saying "those pictures leave me speechless" invalidates itself. :-)
- robeph, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2I'm confused as to why this was dug down so far, I can see it not rising the ranks of the hottest comment, but it's body contains the response I'd expect from many, not a bad response mind you.
- JohnsonGotOwned, on 05/26/2008, -19/+3Screw you. People die so you can sit at your computer, and you don't care.You can show some respect. My 2 year old cousin can. It's not hard.
- ordig, on 05/26/2008, -148/+1290***** Bush
- beatphats, on 05/26/2008, -32/+20Bush don't care about White people!
- ichbeineinrcg, on 05/26/2008, -1/+8I don't know why you're being buried--that's a nice riff on one of my favorite political comments ever. Well done. I just wish I had ascii art of Mike Myers standing around uncomfortably to go with it.
- Westford, on 05/26/2008, -0/+0I suppose Digg didn't get this reference.
- Nollykin, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I just youtubed ol' kanye west saying that. Gold. The look on Mike Myers face is PRICELESS. Like: "...What? You actually just.. Oh. Wow. He actually just said that."
- stinkipete, on 05/26/2008, -12/+91i prefer shaven.
- flxfxp, on 05/26/2008, -22/+3Very inappropriate, but dugg. At least hell is warm and I'm gonna know people there.
- chordmasta, on 05/26/2008, -14/+47WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/11/ira ...
Typical Digger.- TimeLincoln, on 05/26/2008, -12/+3Learn basic politics retard. Note above comment
- DeskFlyer, on 05/26/2008, -7/+13After being fed false information from the White House. Typical context lacking digger.
- jordan.basham, on 05/26/2008, -6/+9What weapons of mass destruction were there to give up?
- diggrnumber1, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1that doesn't mean it wasn't bush's idea first. cheney, bush, and colin powell tricked congress into believing that there were wmd's, so you can't really blame congress at first. what you can blame them for is not voting to bring the troops home even after it was clear the war was going to accomplish nothing except the spreading of anti-us hate and destabilization of the middle east.
- drichards78, on 05/26/2008, -2/+26Hey, give Bush a break. Hasn't he been through enough? He gave up GOLF for Christ's sake!!
- winampman2, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6Actually, he lied about that... (there was an article about it on digg)
- fr0ng, on 05/26/2008, -2/+14Nah, ***** all the stupid people of the country for allowing this to go on for the last 5 years.
- Profiler38, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4and what have you done to stop it?
- digitronix, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1And you really think they could do anything about it? Welcome to the new American order, where the government no longer represents the people, except for that one time every four years when they're trying to get elected.
- diggrnumber1, on 05/26/2008, -2/+3the media controls the political decisions of the american people, and democracy cannot defend against this.
one example from history: hitler was democratically-elected, but he used the media to manipulate public opinion in his favor. every aspect of cultural life in the reich was controlled by joseph goebbels (the minister of propaganda) under the broad directive of the fuhrer. hitler and goebbels used their media monopoly to direct public anger against supposedly "foreign," un-german elements such as jews, communists, and other political and social minorities (furthering previous cultural trends in germany). they did this to create a sense of irrational fear (see the parallels to today). through manipulation of this fear, they had a pretext for the invasion of foreign nations (again, see the parallels?).
what is telling is that hitler considered the ministry of propaganda to be the single most important department of his government, so much so that he appointed goebbels to be his successor as fuhrer upon his death. goebells served for one day before he and his wife committed suicide (they also killed their 6 children with cyanide).
think about the parellels to today. think about it before digging this comment down because of godwin's law.- Nollykin, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2I didn't digg you because you asked me not to digg you down- I dugg you because this was well written.
- rockon4life45, on 05/26/2008, -13/+4somebody seriously died for this cause and all you can say is ***** bush?
***** you and gtfo out- elliotys, on 05/26/2008, -1/+5What cause?
- BattleScars, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2What do you want him to say? "Thanks for dying fellow patriot! Your premature demise has surely made a huge difference to this great nation!". ***** Bush works just fine for me.
- frazier117, on 05/26/2008, -2/+1couldn't have said it better
- digitronix, on 05/26/2008, -0/+12Even better:
***** every senator and congressman that seceded the authority to invade Iraq to the Bush administration.
Don't blame Bush. There was supposed to be a system of checks and balances to insure a president never had the authority to create wars, and they blew it. This is not just a Republican war, it is also a Democrat war.- Nollykin, on 05/26/2008, -2/+2On a global scale: It proved just how ineffective the UN really was.
GW: I think, with your permission, I'm going to blow up afghanistan. I mean Iraq. Hey! Same thing, right?!
UN: Uh. No. And no, upon discussion, we have decided that no- We don't think that's ok. In fact, GW, DO NOT INVADE IRAQ.
GW: ...Ah, ***** these UN pussies- We'll do it ourselves! THEY AINT TAKIN' AWAY MY FREEDOM! LETS GO KILL OSAMA! I MEAN SADDAM! AH ***** THEY'RE ALL RAGHEADS ANYWAY RIGHT?
- Nollykin, on 05/26/2008, -2/+2On a global scale: It proved just how ineffective the UN really was.
- TheGooseyOne, on 05/26/2008, -2/+2Guess I missed that line in the Constitution that says Presidents can declare war. At least a little over 100 other diggers aren't as ***** as you are.
- Whitehat51, on 05/26/2008, -6/+1Maybe you should read the constitution, dumbass. The President cannot make war, but as Commander in Chief of the army, he is allowed to send troops to foreign countries. However, the War Powers Act after Vietnam established that Congress has to allow the President to do this. Congress voted to allow Bush to stay in Iraq.
Besides, you can't blame Bush for the war. As a president, he could either embarass our country by doing nothing after we were attacked by enemies for the largest civilian death toll in one attack in our nation's history, and encourage them to do it over and over again, or he could act.
And in addition to that, Bush didn't go in alone. Plenty of other countries lent troops to help us.
Lastly, we haven't lost nearly as many troops in this war as we have in real wars. In the Civil War, we lost 618,000 troops. In World War 2, we lost over 300,000 troops. In Vietnam, we lost 58,000 troops. In the Korean War, which was tiny compared to these others, we lost 54,000 troops. Where am I going with this? Guess how many troops we lost in Iraq. 4,000. If you are going to hate Bush for this war, you might as well hate every president that has brought us to war before him, because every single one of them has seen many, and I mean many more troops die in much less time than President Bush has.
So why don't you just shove your stupid liberal insults and idiotic Daily Show-informed knowledge of the Iraq War up your ass?- Nollykin, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2BZZZZT! Wrong, moron. Your entire argument fell on it's arse when you suggested that Iraq was a "payback" for the twin towers attack. Iraq had NOTHING TO DO with that attack, and never DID. That was a splinter terrorist organisation operating out of Afghanistan. So shove YOUR FOX-informed knowledge of the "iraq war" up your ignorant, misled bottom.
- digitronix, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Maybe you can learn something from the Daily Show. You've been watching too much Fox News probably.
- TheGooseyOne, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1um...Whitehat, I'm about as nonliberal as you can get. I was responding to the eloquent "***** Bush" post above by simply stating the fact how a President cannot declare war.
I'm not a hysteric like most diggers, and do realize that this war pales in comparison to most others (in terms of scope, worldwide importance, and deaths) and will be looked back on by history in at least slightly more positive light than it is now.
By the way, I think the Daily Show has jumped the shark entirely, and should be canceled. On the other hand, the Colbert Report is one of my favorite shows. I do have a disdain for certain people who call out Fox for not being fair and balanced, yet the only helping of news they get a day is 22 minutes of the Daily Show and digg.com. Both extremely balanced venues :P
- Whitehat51, on 05/26/2008, -6/+1Maybe you should read the constitution, dumbass. The President cannot make war, but as Commander in Chief of the army, he is allowed to send troops to foreign countries. However, the War Powers Act after Vietnam established that Congress has to allow the President to do this. Congress voted to allow Bush to stay in Iraq.
- ImpaledNoob, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1I don't blame Bush, I blame Americans for their conformism and their unwillingness for making a change. Yeah, a lot of them appear to be enraged by the situation but all they do is type down their rants on some blog but nothing more beyond that. If Americans acknowledged that their country is not the center of the world and cared to know what really is going on out there other than what is shown on their ***** propagandist news channels, perhaps they would act a little more human and less egoistic towards their own people and the rest of the world. It's a shame that when it comes down to world peace, even as the most powerful nation it can't do ***** about it. I guess being a powerful military empire really has its costs and the only way to stay on top is by remaining shameless and carrying out never ending bellicose acts. ***** your holidays such as today's, they are a facade, an excuse for showing empathy towards masochist men and women, and of course, yet another opportunity for waving American flags made in China and buying cheap steaks at Wal-Mart. Let the burying begin.
- quarterpast, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2i couldn't have said it better myself
- diggingaround, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Bush is a puppet, he is a plain and simple moron...
He doesn't have enough brain even to talk properly... hate the people behind him pulling his strings... every Wolfowitz, Karl, Dick, Gonzales and others behind the curtain.... hate people that make huge profits from every war they ignited and every war we fight...
- beatphats, on 05/26/2008, -32/+20Bush don't care about White people!
- chkdg8, on 05/26/2008, -32/+244This is an old picture but every time I see it, it really gets to me. Man, they're just sending babies off to war.
- antiorblkflag9, on 05/26/2008, -1/+4We are and it sucks. I'm afraid I'm next.
- Trunzo, on 05/27/2008, -1/+4Unless you choose to voluntarily enlist, you aren't next. Nothing to be afraid of.
- Coolmatt49, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2Yet.
- Trunzo, on 05/27/2008, -1/+4Unless you choose to voluntarily enlist, you aren't next. Nothing to be afraid of.
- nicejai, on 05/26/2008, -5/+8You know, sometimes I think there should be something added to law, that members of congress can only vote 'yes' to enter war if a member of their immediate family were serving. I mean, there was a time when leaders actually fought their own battles.
If this were requirement were made law:
1) Politicians would think much longer, and much harder before allowing the military enter into *any* conflict.
2) No more of this "our guys on the ground don't have enough armour" *****. If congressmen's sons are on the ground, you can bet your ass they'd pour more resources into giving the military whatever they needed.
3) The country only goes to war if the majority of the country's leader believe in it so much that they have no problems with their kids being in it.- TripMoon, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Whoever diggs you down is a ***** who will never stare down the barrel of a gun
- winampman2, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I think that's a great idea too. But then 99% of the senate wouldn't be able to vote.
I remember watching Fahrenheit 9/11 and Michael Moore was thinking of something similar. He did some research and found that the only senator with an immediate family member in the military was from Hawaii (if i remember correctly). That was it. Then he proceeded to hand out "Join the army/navy/AF" pamphlets to senators as they walked to their offices.
- Ogopogo, on 05/26/2008, -7/+3No.. 'they' are not sending 'babies' off to war. The 'babies' all volunteered to be sent off to war. Too bad the 'babies' parents, friends, etc.. that had some life experience, maturity or knowledge of how politics works didn't spend some time trying to talk the 'babies' into choosing a different career.
- mrevaaaaa, on 05/30/2008, -0/+1Are you the heavy from tf2? "YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK!!! YOU SEND BABIES TO FIGHT ME?!"
- antiorblkflag9, on 05/26/2008, -1/+4We are and it sucks. I'm afraid I'm next.
- Nhmarine, on 05/26/2008, -185/+79Well, everyone affected by war is..... affected by war..... Don't say "***** bush" or "hate this war," because grief has been present in every kind of war. Instead of blaming Bush, despite his horrible job, blame the very idea of war. But, then again, war allows my government to get me free college, a steady paycheck and a steady influx of meals and shelter..... if it weren't for war.... if the world was rid of this kind of organized violence, well, then I would really wish socialism worked.
- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -17/+35Because the only means of sustenance and education are tyrannically-dictated socialism and war?
Biggest... moron... ever.- ZeroFive1, on 05/26/2008, -3/+4You know that there's something called democratic socialism, right?
It's what George Orwell believed in.- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2Yeah, I know of the concept. I explicitly stated 'tyrannically-dictated' to qualify Nhmarine's statement (which seemed to imply any/all forms of socialism can't work). I probably didn't use proper terminology... I don't follow government or economics too closely usually. I was trying to imply that the known non-working forms of socialism are tyrannical but there are variations.
- ZeroFive1, on 05/26/2008, -3/+4You know that there's something called democratic socialism, right?
- tonicboy, on 05/26/2008, -18/+20nah, i'm just gonna blame Bush. mmmkay?
- shinythingy, on 05/26/2008, -8/+26Your education is not worth the lives of others.
- Bodhinature, on 05/26/2008, -1/+8Especially since he obviously hasn't learned anything.
- nickert0n, on 05/26/2008, -7/+21I hope your education teaches you how to build a society out of Twisted Metal and Rubble. Cause thats where you are headed with the actions that your adminsitration has taken.
- Canadian Guy whos Government said No to iraq- thecorch, on 05/26/2008, -9/+1I hope our (Canadian) education system teaches you proper grammar, son.
- directive0, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3I hope you learn to think critically attack viewpoints you disagree with using logic rather then just targeting grammar and spelling.
- thecorch, on 05/26/2008, -9/+1I hope our (Canadian) education system teaches you proper grammar, son.
- Schweppes7T4, on 05/26/2008, -6/+6the difference is the cause of this war... this should have been done with Afghanistan, but Bush decided to finish his daddy's work and go into Iraq... and now we can't get out because apparently it'll be our fault if their country implodes (since we took out their government).
this war is unnecessary, and it can be too much to deal with when you have close friends or family members that have gone there, and haven't come back (except in a casket). - joeanon, on 05/26/2008, -3/+6War isn't always wrong. Would letting the Jews die on prison camps be more humane than fighting for Europe's freedom.
There is no unilateral morality that works at all given times.
War cannot always be wrong.- rationalist, on 05/26/2008, -2/+10False dichotomy. There are preemptive nonviolent measures that can prevent wars and atrocities like the Holocaust.
You are using the same logic as people who say, "would you have preferred that Saddam Hussein still be in power?" or who will say, "would you have preferred that Iran build a nuclear weapon" as an excuse for our next Middle East warbortion.
As for "there is no unilateral morality that works at all given times", that is a self-defeating statement.
The reason anyone even tries to argue that the horror of WWII was a "just war" is precisely because, across nearly the entire political and philosophical spectrum, there is agreement on basic moral principles that DO apply.
Otherwise letting the Jews die, by your twisted logic, would have been arguably more humane, particularly in the light of the overall cost of the war.
Of course, the very thing that makes us all human is our natural repugnance of applying cold calculus to the suffering of our fellow human beings. That kind of inhumanity is reserved for the likes of the Bush Administration and their ilk. - hangglide, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3How would there be Jews dying in prison camps if there was no war? He didn't say US involvement is war is wrong. He said war is wrong.
- Baskins, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Just so you know, the US did not get involved in WWII to save the Jews from the prison camps. We didn't even know that was going on until we were already a few years into it. The motivations for war were already established long before that, saving the Jews just turned out to be a ginormous fringe benefit of our involvement.
Even so, you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone that thought our involvement in WWII was not justified, but it was NOT to save the Jews.
I've read my comments several times now. Don't make me have to come back in here and clarify these statements because you've misconstrued them as "we hate Jews".
- rationalist, on 05/26/2008, -2/+10False dichotomy. There are preemptive nonviolent measures that can prevent wars and atrocities like the Holocaust.
- chrisduser, on 05/26/2008, -3/+2"blame the very idea of war" War is a weapon, like a gun. Wars do not start themselves, people start them. Not only blame Bush, but blame the CIA for ignoring intelligence regarding terror attacks on American. Most of all though, blame the terrorist and all those involved in sustaining habitats for them to flourish.
Bin Laden and other anti-American terrorist wanted a war and Bush gave it to them. The Iraq war will no doubt breed thousands and thousands of new terrorist. What more could anti-American terrorist ask for? Kill 3000 Americans, recruit many more anti-American terrorist in return. Some of which have already killed thousands of American and allied soldiers in Iraq.
The war on terror just breeds more terrorist.- Nenb, on 05/26/2008, -2/+0War is an action. Not a tool. It is not even the use of tools since war can exist without any tools.
- max420, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1.
- max420, on 05/26/2008, -7/+2Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11. It was an inside job, that has pretty much been proven now. The war on Iraq was started for a few simple reasons, the main ones being: Control over the oil, and the second is so that the governments involved print more money, which by the way isn't free. When the Federal Reserve issues more currency, it issues it to the government at interest. That means for EVERY DOLLAR SPENT on the war, the world elite behind the banking community make 2 dollars. Keeping the government and its people in constant debt. You think the US recession happened on its own? Yeah right.
- TheLoneHoot, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Bin Laden had nothing to do with Iraq. I don't blame bin Laden 1% for the war in Iraq. I DO blame Bush and his cabal 100% for the war in Iraq.
9/11 and Iraq are 100% UNRELATED you brainwashed sheep.- skcoder, on 05/27/2008, -2/+0I will laugh at you when a Muslim extremist flies a plane into your house.
- Nenb, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1In fact the Iraq war might have been more than what Bin Laden wished for since Saddam was no fan of Al Qaeda.
"Saddam Hussein was distrustful of al-Qaeda and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al-Qaeda to provide material or operational support." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5328592.stm
- Nenb, on 05/26/2008, -2/+0War is an action. Not a tool. It is not even the use of tools since war can exist without any tools.
- max420, on 05/26/2008, -3/+3No, actually, I blame Bush, and all his cronies. I'm sure Bush is just a puppet, because he's too dumb not to be. So I also blame whome ever the "puppet master" is. I certainly don't blame war, because war has its place. But this war is so ***** stupid....
- balazsbela, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1War has it's place.Only one place.In the history books as something that will never happen again.
- Ultomato, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1puppet master is the federal reserve
- balazsbela, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1War has it's place.Only one place.In the history books as something that will never happen again.
- cerealjynx, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4I'm gonna go ahead and blaaaaame....religion.
- SeymourC, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1His post exemplifies a big point that a lot of you are missing. Everyone who died in the war signed up for it. A lot people don't have the oppurtunity to go to college and get another job that offers what the military does. People weigh the pros and cons of their situation, some people need to be in the military.
On the other hand this is retarded war. But every soldier is not completely upset and taken off-guard by the idea of shipping out. - Zorkon, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Have you been to Canada recently? If not, you should. Sounds like you might need to have your eyes opened - there *are* alternatives to war and tyrannical socialism (well put, smotpoker).
- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -17/+35Because the only means of sustenance and education are tyrannically-dictated socialism and war?
- baylat, on 05/26/2008, -61/+178We must not forget that the men and women who died in the war are heroes.
- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -33/+65Depends on your definition of "hero".
If you cannot prove they actually saved someone, and caused substantially more good than harm, your classification is inaccurate and you are nearly as deluded by our government and media as the poor fools coming home maimed or in caskets.
Predominantly well-intentioned perhaps. Not likely a whole lot are actual heroes in my book.- baylat, on 05/26/2008, -15/+27Well to me, someone who is willing to go out there because of there duty for the country, despite the high risk, is a hero.
- aseriesoftubes, on 05/26/2008, -3/+21The pictures are heartbreaking and the personal tragedy they represent is self-evident.
But by your logic all the Germans who fought in the second world war were heroes. Are you sure that is what you are trying to say?
Doing your duty for your country without regard for whether your country is right or wrong is not in itself heroic. In some instances it may even be immoral. - crazydonat30, on 05/26/2008, -1/+6understandable...but to me, i just dont think alot of them are doing it for the country, i think its cuz they really didnt have a choice. unless of course they are of the macArthur type.
- bmson, on 05/26/2008, -1/+8@aseriesoftubes
Depends on your definition of "right or wrong"
The Germans were heroes in the WW2 in there allies eyes.
The some goes for "Axis of evil" in Iraq, they are heroes.
...and same goes for the American soldiers, they are heroes.
P.s.
I feel so much for this poor kid, so sad. - Mercedes383, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2I'm just amazed that this potentially inflammatory subject is being argued with such politeness in this thread.
- FrclyUnopniontd, on 05/30/2008, -0/+1Me too. But, at risk of perturbing that politeness.. Do they really have no choice? I'd really appreciate if someone could explain a non-American; which are the main, real reasons for those kinds volunteering to war -since I can't believe that's the case in such a great nation.
Aren't community colleges good enough to land a decent job? Or college loans hard to get?
Is career advancement in the army feasible. Do veterans get good pensions/retirements?
Having served in the army gives a comfortable social status or it's important for local politics/family business?
Just wanting to know non-mediatic, real person's speculations based on empirical knowledge. (: - ciaran036, on 06/23/2008, -0/+1What duty? So I can he a hero if I head off to Iraq, maybe kill a dozen rebels, a few civilians and then get myself killed and be called a hero?
The real hero's are the guys who have stood up and said NO, and refused to take part in this illegal and unjustified invasion.
- aseriesoftubes, on 05/26/2008, -3/+21The pictures are heartbreaking and the personal tragedy they represent is self-evident.
- reyoo30309, on 05/26/2008, -8/+26No doubt, your words are true. But do you have to say it like a heartless machine?
- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -1/+15Criticize those who unintentionally speak as "heartless machines" all you want. I choose to criticize those who *act* like them.
By ignoring, honoring and glorifying harmful or immoral acts, even those committed under orders or in name of country, you perpetuate them. Besides, I was attempting an appeal at logic, not emotion.
Morons running around all hostile/paranoid and trying to avoid offending/confronting each other is exactly how this country got where into it's current predicament.
- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -1/+15Criticize those who unintentionally speak as "heartless machines" all you want. I choose to criticize those who *act* like them.
- fracaso089, on 05/26/2008, -6/+6anyone who is willing to give up their life in the service of their country should be considered a hero (at least by the people in their own country). you don't have to support the war (who still does?) but you should support the troops
- crazydonat30, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5most of the time its not cuz they wanted to join the service. its cuz they had nothing to do outta high school. so they just do it for the paycheck hoping they see it.
- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3Regional boundaries should not inhibit morality. I tend not to respect those who risk/take human life when their own lives are not directly threatened.
- aelias, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6Anyone who is willing to voluntarily put themselves in a situation where they know there is a chance they will be asked to KILL someone who never did ANYTHING to them OR their country, had best back that ***** up with something benevolent and useful, otherwise it's murder for money, plain and simple. I'm sorry they didn't get the meal they ordered, but that's war.
Being a soldier or a fireman may get you some points in your neighborhood, but history will not remember you as a hero, just someone doing their job.
- crazydonat30, on 05/26/2008, -3/+2agreed.
- baylat, on 05/26/2008, -15/+27Well to me, someone who is willing to go out there because of there duty for the country, despite the high risk, is a hero.
- AbdullahAbuDawu, on 09/12/2008, -6/+3Forget who?
- XyZeR, on 05/26/2008, -8/+2More like "An hero ?"
- wrs123, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3Try not to correct someone's English incorrectly. It completes removes any illusion that you're not an idiot.
- Astroseksy, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1Woooosh.
- XyZeR, on 05/27/2008, -1/+0Lol i wasn't correcting him, someone needs to read Encyclopaedia dramatica and search for the internet meme known as "An Hero"....
- wrs123, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1Haha wow, so now I'm the idiot. Sorry about that.
- wrs123, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3Try not to correct someone's English incorrectly. It completes removes any illusion that you're not an idiot.
- groovechamp30, on 05/26/2008, -5/+11Whats the point in always saying they are heroes, its weird. They're just soldiers who got shot, having a salute/patriotism fest about how heroic you are if you get killed is strange.
- davidbond, on 05/26/2008, -7/+37You can't say that. If it's heroic to get killed in an armed struggle, then suicide bombers are heroes.
OH - you mean they got killed and they're on YOUR side. Ah - I see.- mikepictor, on 05/26/2008, -3/+6well said my good man.
Fighting in a war doesn't make you a hero. It makes you just a man, or a woman, trying to do their job as best they can, and maybe come home alive.
I respect all soldiers caught in a fight they don't deserve to be in, both the white ones and the brown ones. I am sure they all want to get home to their children. - diggrnumber1, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1tragic heroes. both sides have their share.
- ciaran036, on 06/23/2008, -0/+1It's just a pity that they lied about WMD's. And it's just a pity that virtually everyone in the Western world believed it.
- mikepictor, on 05/26/2008, -3/+6well said my good man.
- quaxon, on 05/26/2008, -13/+13That's complete *****. All i have to say is HAHA. That ***** signed up for an illegal war, invading an innocent country who didnt ever want to go to war. They (the iraqis) are now forced to fight an invading force, forced to protect their families from murder, forced to protect their daughters from rape. They are the true heroes. Any soldier who is killed in iraq is a point for the good guys, a point for the innocent people who never wanted fight but were forced too because of willing jarheads like this doofs brother and other like him who are always so ready to go and kill without knowing the reason why. The only real heroes are those who must fight, who never had a choice in the matter, those who must fight with whatever they can get their hands on, not those who are fighting the poor with multi-billion dollar weaponry.
- schrankage, on 05/26/2008, -3/+12I'd rather be alive than be a hero. What's a hero anyway? A word.
- CiXeL, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2and being a hero is not like it used to be
no one will remember you now.
you are just a number.
dying for your way of life is one thing
dying because rich people want to control and profit off a resource is criminal. - fuzzybeard, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1Also a tasty sammich.
- CiXeL, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2and being a hero is not like it used to be
- aaronoog, on 05/26/2008, -1/+14If that's a hero, let there be no heroes. Let there be no reason to need a hero. Let there be peace.
- lohphat, on 05/26/2008, -1/+23Sending dedicated firemen into a burning building telling them there are people in there when you know there were not is murder. Why isn't sending dedicated military into a region saying there were WMDs not the same thing?
They're not heroes, they're pawns.
BTW, only Congress has the power to declare war. Show me a declaration of war.
This was an invasion. - Blah_Blah_Blah, on 05/26/2008, -0/+15heroes? or victims?
- diggrnumber1, on 05/26/2008, -3/+1tragic hero = victim
- ciaran036, on 06/23/2008, -0/+1Victims!
- diggrnumber1, on 05/26/2008, -3/+1they are heroes for fighting for what they believe is right. even if it is not, they still have good intentions. so they are more like tragic heroes.
- ciaran036, on 06/23/2008, -0/+1Let's not get carried away. I don't put killers down on my list of heroes, no matter who gave the order. We aren't robots we can resist authority, you know!
My heroes are more along the lines of Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King, John Hume and Mahatma Ghandi!
- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -33/+65Depends on your definition of "hero".
- SeaweedWater, on 05/26/2008, -238/+28I hate to be a dick, but Steve sorta looks like a girl.
- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -6/+50If you really hated being a dick, you wouldn't make such snide comments at the expense of others' suffering.
- SeaweedWater, on 05/26/2008, -15/+4Is he suffering from looking like a girl?
I said nothing about his dead brother, I'm in the military, and would never make light of that.- itsgotyou, on 05/26/2008, -4/+3He probably suffered from that too. Getting teased at school, being called Stella instead of Steve.
- kidcodea, on 05/26/2008, -3/+5or getting played hairway to steven
- SeaweedWater, on 05/26/2008, -15/+4Is he suffering from looking like a girl?
- reyoo30309, on 05/26/2008, -7/+30Distasteful and Disgraceful.
- colonelbuckshot, on 05/26/2008, -6/+30you are a dick
- 1randomguyO8, on 05/26/2008, -30/+11lol I agree, I though it was his mum saying good bye.
- tk0680, on 05/26/2008, -5/+27***** you. Apologies, Digg, for not posting anything more eloquent than that, but there's no other way to put it.
- gryphon50, on 05/26/2008, -15/+1let's see your picture then!
- stinkymonkey, on 05/26/2008, -4/+21Your comment is very insensitive. Grow up.
- MasterPlayer, on 05/26/2008, -5/+26Dugg down and blocked.
- Gforce20, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1*conforms to MasterPlayer*
EDIT: Also blocked.
- Gforce20, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1*conforms to MasterPlayer*
- twiztidsinz, on 05/26/2008, -5/+4I agree.. when I first saw the pics then read the captions my initial thought before finishing reading was that the friend was the soldier.
- RedMoonGenie, on 05/26/2008, -4/+15He's like... 15. How can you be so callous?
- muppetman2000, on 05/26/2008, -10/+1You lot need to grow up
- aussieNickuss, on 05/26/2008, -14/+4Dugg down and blocked......oh and reported.
- SeaweedWater, on 05/26/2008, -25/+13'oh and reported'
hahaha..man, I was pointing out the dude looked like a chick..You're not gonna tell me you didnt think that was his wife or mother when you first glanced at the pic..my comment had nothing to do with his brother or the point of the picture..
Some of youse guys take your internetz way too serious..- tk0680, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6After all, if it's on the internet, it's not real. Right?
- bownasterm, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4internet serious business lol
- TheLoneHoot, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3"I hate to be a dick, but..."
The problem with your defense is that your initial comment indicated foreknowledge of your being a dick, ergo, foreknowledge that it would be offensive to most and was probably disrespectful.
So I, for one, doubt very much indeed that you hate being a dick. In fact, I'd be willing to wager that you revel in every opportunity to be a dick. "Mission Accomplished" - it seems to be a fitting phrase for a dick on a pointless mission. - Gforce20, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1The "internetz" aren't serious. The "Internet" IS.
- tk0680, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6After all, if it's on the internet, it's not real. Right?
- bigbenorr, on 05/26/2008, -6/+8yeah I had to read the caption before I realized that it was a dude, and I'm pretty sure most people who looked at this did too, so I don't think you are an insensitive prick seaweed. Dugg!!
- SeaweedWater, on 05/26/2008, -2/+3I heart you.
- Gforce20, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2The caption tells you that he's a guy, so why would you comment about him looking like a girl?
If it was truly unclear (i.e. there was no caption to clarify), then that would be a bit more appropriate. Still, things like that shouldn't be said on such a serious topic.
- quaxon, on 05/26/2008, -12/+1I love to be a dick, his brother was a worthless jarhead who went to go kill some 'ragheads' and luckily got killed himself before he could ruin yet another poor family that never wanted war.
- aquablackmage, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I can easily see that you love to be a dick. But in all seriousness, saying that someone "luckily" got killed is a heartless thing to say. I dare you to say that to his family.
Also, how do even know the guy's motivations for joining the war? Assuming the guy was just another "jarhead" just makes you look like an insensitive prick who's looking to get his comment buried.
- aquablackmage, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I can easily see that you love to be a dick. But in all seriousness, saying that someone "luckily" got killed is a heartless thing to say. I dare you to say that to his family.
- smotpoker, on 05/26/2008, -6/+50If you really hated being a dick, you wouldn't make such snide comments at the expense of others' suffering.
- borez, on 05/26/2008, -38/+651And all for what?
- Bots, on 05/26/2008, -12/+322more expensive gas prices and a ***** economy
- Westford, on 05/26/2008, -6/+5Digg me down, but at the current state of that country, the US sucks ass.
- Shots, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Yes, precisely. Higher oil prices, and so the Fed can buy more US Debt from the Govt.
- gta3uzi, on 05/26/2008, -33/+5To make sure Iran didn't conveniently take over Iraq once Saddam kicked the bucket? Through subversion or other means, mind you.
- AbdullahAbuDawu, on 09/12/2008, -2/+10You make it sound like the people who are killing Americans wouldn't have been able to push out Iran.
- MisteryMeat, on 05/26/2008, -1/+6Is that the latest excuse?
- mcalica, on 05/26/2008, -8/+28For 4 dollar gas, of course. Extremely moving picture. Get these guys out of there...NOW!
- Pikachelsea, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2Would any of you care to explain how the US being involved in Iraq makes gas prices in America go up?
- AbdullahAbuDawu, on 09/12/2008, -0/+11.9/11
2.???
3.War in Iraq
4.???
5.High gas prices
6.???
7.Profit.
- bot001220, on 05/26/2008, -5/+22On the plus side, the corporations made more money! And Israel now has access to Iraq's freshwater! Everybody wins! -_-
- junkwheel, on 05/26/2008, -3/+11Geopolitical positioning for oil resources and control.
And absolutely nothing else.- rex84, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3You forgot lots of revenue for the defense industry.
- Wakuko, on 05/26/2008, -6/+46Dick Cheney's bigger ranch.
Jenna Bush spectacular wedding.
Halliburton's CEO new beach condo in Monaco.
and the list goes on and on and on...
Wait, you were expecting freedom, liberties and justice?- BiggestofMikes, on 05/26/2008, -3/+3I should make more accounts to dig you up.
- evilpoptart, on 05/26/2008, -2/+15All hail the glory that is Rome.
- cheekdog, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4while i believe this war is complete *****, i would think that these guys would say they didn't die in vain, they died doing something they believed in.
- stfucupcake, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1yeah but lots were just kids who signed up for the bonuses or money a college education that they couldn't afford without putting their lives on the line.
Make them heros if you want but most are just normal joes putting in their 2 years.
- stfucupcake, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1yeah but lots were just kids who signed up for the bonuses or money a college education that they couldn't afford without putting their lives on the line.
- celticspringers, on 05/26/2008, -3/+4Message from Israel on Memorial Day: "Thanks suckers!"
- nitkin, on 05/26/2008, -3/+3In a word, nothing.
- diggomaniac, on 05/26/2008, -2/+3Weapons of Mass Destruction.
- Hangly, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3So Bill Lumberg's stock will go up a quarter of a point.
- delhokie, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2They died fighting for you- nothing less than that. Whether you agree with the war or it's aftermath, they paid the sacrifice for us. Honor them today and always. May God bless them and their families.
- Bots, on 05/26/2008, -12/+322more expensive gas prices and a ***** economy
- chokobytes, on 05/26/2008, -56/+0Gr8 pics !!
- fcukthisgame, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4wow, school starts again tomorrow. pay attention this time.
- gravityboard, on 05/26/2008, -5/+108These are beautiful and terrible images. I have goosebumps.
- ehaugan, on 05/26/2008, -59/+16Leave it to diggers to make memorial day political. You guys forgot to say "Vote Obama!"
- tumatakuru, on 05/26/2008, -6/+14Vote Obama and get out of the ***** war
- Pssdoff, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1Yeah, maybe in 2013.
- Cytranic, on 05/26/2008, -17/+11Watch out, these diggers are very sensitive about their boyfriend Obama
- dizzythegreat, on 05/26/2008, -6/+7Vote Obama!
- abby11, on 05/26/2008, -6/+8Vote Obama:)
- Bodhinature, on 05/26/2008, -3/+11Uhm, Memorial Day is political. Especially in times of war. What, are we supposed to step back and honor our fighting men and women and forget that we are in unneeded conflict right now? Conflict created by government lies?
***** Bush, I say! - pdt162004, on 05/26/2008, -2/+3You people are a bunch of jerk offs
- tumatakuru, on 05/26/2008, -6/+14Vote Obama and get out of the ***** war
- tk0680, on 05/26/2008, -15/+39Nothing to be said that hasn't been said a thousand times before. Possibly the most damning consequence of this war is that America's government will not be dissauded from their war (be it for money, pride, you name it) by any number of deaths.
I don't know if it's evil or just stupid, but the last 5 years or so will go down as some of America's darkest. Those of you who feel ashamed, I pity you. Those who don't, I pity you more.- crazydonat30, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1so whats in between ashamed and not ashamed???
- Mejogid, on 05/26/2008, -0/+7Well, in the first case he's pittying you out of empathy and in the second from derrision & disgust.
- crazydonat30, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1you read well in between the lines my friend.
- Mejogid, on 05/26/2008, -0/+7Well, in the first case he's pittying you out of empathy and in the second from derrision & disgust.
- bownasterm, on 05/26/2008, -8/+2this definately does not rank among our darkest times im sorry but this is going to be a tiny insignificant mark in our history
- Vorin, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1As of 12:49 EDT today, the official number of casualties of Americans is 30329.
This number ignores the estimated 1.2 million Iraqi citizens who have been violently killed since the US invasion.
Tiny little mark? I wouldn't call it that.
- Vorin, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1As of 12:49 EDT today, the official number of casualties of Americans is 30329.
- leefnaspleaf, on 05/26/2008, -3/+7Have any of you people ever been alive during a time of conflict before?
This war is *****, and the deathtoll is sad because we should be pulling our troops out.
But a few thousand deaths, in and of itself, is nothing.
Yes, it's sad. No, it's not some huge ***** deal given that we're in a war to begin with.
The huge ***** deal is the fact that we're IN a war. It's not the death toll.
You kids.- tk0680, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Yes, genius, but the death toll compared to the gains should - one would hope - be an incentive to reconsider how worthwhile the war is.
Do you understand now?
- tk0680, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Yes, genius, but the death toll compared to the gains should - one would hope - be an incentive to reconsider how worthwhile the war is.
- lukeb1222, on 05/26/2008, -2/+9I didn't vote for him, but I'm ashamed. I wish the rest of the world knew just how much we detest our current president.
- SpongeBad, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1I think we get it. We see the opinion polls.
- crazydonat30, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1so whats in between ashamed and not ashamed???
- arjie, on 05/26/2008, -21/+16Oh *****, I didn't see that coming because I was reading that "who's off to war" and thought it was happening present day and I was like, "Man, that's sad. Brother going off to war." and I thought the second picture would be the Army guys saying good bye to someone else leaving for home from Iraq. Damn.
- farmie, on 05/26/2008, -5/+38Gave me goose bumps...
- withears, on 05/26/2008, -45/+773I won't go golfing today in honor of these pictures.