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- Himself, on 02/13/2008, -5/+23since "Classical Liberal Arts education" was replaced by "Liberalism re-education centers"
- MadSquirrel, on 02/13/2008, -3/+19Add in the power of the Stockholm Syndrome, and the more time you are in them the more Liberal Progressive you become.
You might have the beginnings of a new social "theory" about the decline process of a society.- jrocks79, on 02/13/2008, -3/+15You are right mad squirrel, It was nearly impossible to keep my sanity going to the temple of liberal thought. I was mostly alone the whole time, which is what happens and how they "get" you.
- MadSquirrel, on 02/13/2008, -3/+19Add in the power of the Stockholm Syndrome, and the more time you are in them the more Liberal Progressive you become.
- 4chin8, on 02/13/2008, -3/+10Someone, somewhere (I think it was a college professor) told me that professors used to be chosen by students to teach them. Students found people that merited the title of 'Professor" and they paid for his time. It was only out of convenience that an administration was needed to collect fees and support the education process. Somehow, those that take the money always seem to think that they are in charge of the education: The STUDENTS are still in charge of what is taught in institutions of higher learning. If well-educated wanna-bees wish to exercise their rights and responsibilities to research the faculty and only support those institutions that teach what is worth learning, they can change the stupidity that is happening in academia today. Reputations are earned over time and sometimes they are no longer deserved. If you can't find an institution that employs GREAT Teachers, employ the teacher directly. I assure you, your education will be better for it!!! Kind of a Homeschool option for college. What a thought!
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -1/+7I must be missing something, Ashok. You state academia is not compatible with capitalism because of the push for short term results leads to anti-intellectual courses (my terms, not yours) addressing TV topics. Yet, the ivory tower lefties which dominate the faculty of virtually all universities are not shy about their hostility to capitalism. There's a disconnect in there somewhere, or terms not clearly defined . . . something . . . it just doesn't seem to flow. Sorry.
Interesting that Strauss and Kendall found this in 1961. Of course, with the repudiation of McCarthy (who has been shown by the Soviet archives to have been correct at least in part), hostility toward conservative views gradually became not only fashionable, but largely required in some professions (entertainment, "news," academia). I don't recall it being so pervasive in my era, but I wasn't in Berkley or the Northeast, either.- ashok, on 02/14/2008, -1/+4One of the ideas, education or capitalism, takes priority over another. Right now capitalism absolutely dominates education, there's no doubt about this. Notice that Che t-shirts sell; that Marxists sell books, and sell them very well. Also notice the nature of complaints against capitalism - they're not complaining about the "system" as much as "they don't feel they have enough power."
If you want more on why one idea has to take precedence, you need to see "education" and "capitalism" as referring back to prior values. "Education" links with self-knowledge and, in the end analysis, moderation (he who knows himself does not need more than is necessary). I'm ripping this right from Plato's short dialogue Alcibiades. "Capitalism" ultimately links with acquisition, which can be moderated, but is itself not moderate.
The question is which value will take priority, and since one is literally more conducive to knowledge, one value by default actually takes priority, whether we acknowledge it or not.
- ashok, on 02/14/2008, -1/+4One of the ideas, education or capitalism, takes priority over another. Right now capitalism absolutely dominates education, there's no doubt about this. Notice that Che t-shirts sell; that Marxists sell books, and sell them very well. Also notice the nature of complaints against capitalism - they're not complaining about the "system" as much as "they don't feel they have enough power."
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