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Declaration of War vs. The People

critterology.blogspot.com — On October 23, 2007 the U.S. Government declared War on the American People. HR 1955: The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act designates every American who acts against the U.S. Government to be a Homegrown Terrorist. If you've ever said that George W. Bush should be hanged as a war criminal, you sir, are a Terrorist.

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  • caferrell, on 10/31/2007, -1/+22Its a ***** nightmare!
    How can this be happening in my country in the country of Jefferson and Wshington?
    How did such small minded authoritarian pricks pervert the American dream. Me cago en tu cara George Bush! Eres un hijo de puta.
    • pawnzRus, on 11/01/2007, -0/+0Since Democrats and Republicans both agreed so well on this bill, I'd say they weren't as small minded as we thought.
      We have been duped people. Seems the "2 sides of the same coin party" can actually agree on something and it is truly frightening.
      See who voted how here...
      http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h200 ...
  • phnx0221, on 10/31/2007, -1/+30Man, it REALLY sucks that our other thread got buried. It was so productive, and motivated.
    I'm going to repost the standard copy and paste letter I wrote earlier, in case anyone is interested in using it, or drawing upon it.

    To Whom It May Concern
    It has come to my attention, that The U.S. House of Representatives has recently passed HR 1955 titled the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.

    This act defines homegrown terrorism as: "(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term homegrown terrorism’ means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. "

    This act also allows for a central organization to be created to monitor, detect, and report on suspicious "homegrown terrorist activity within the United States". The definition of such activity is vague, leaving room for the possibility of anyone seriously advocating social change, restoration of the constitution, and advocating the organization of protests to "coerce the United States government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof".

    This Act is undermining, and threatening, the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens to organize in dissent of the Patriot Act, NSA surveillance, telecom immunity, social injustice, the War on Terror, or any other program that the citizenry feels is in violation of their inalienable rights as U.S. citizens.

    We have had enough. Please report on this. The link to the Act, in full detail, is listed here:

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill= ...

    Please report on this. All U.S. citizens who are doing nothing but voicing their opinions against a government that has expanded their executive powers, bypassed our congressional check and balance, and has undermined our U.S. Judiciary System, are now at risk, by this new act, of being labeled and prosecuted as a terrorist.

    Please help.

    Sincerely,
    • phnx0221, on 10/31/2007, -1/+8I almost forgot. Thanks to notque for picking up on this one:
      "Make sure if you use this to replace the link with the real link. Copy and paste it after you open it. I'm sending this off to as many places as I can."
    • geddon, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3Looks like the other thread was experiencing a temporary outage.
  • phnx0221, on 10/31/2007, -1/+16Here are some email addresses to send this story to. We need to get this out there. The media needs to report on this. This affects all of us. We CANNOT sit idly by and let this happen.

    totn@npr.org, morning@npr.org, atc@npr.org, letters@latimes.com, fair@fair.org, ireport@cnn.com, netaudr@abc.com, evening@cbsnews.com, ftn@cbsnews.com, today@nbc.com, letters@nytimes.com, nytnews@nytimes.com, editor@usatoday.com, wsj.ltrs@wsj.com, letters@newsweek.com, letters@washpost.com, letters@usnews.com, info@ap.org, zmag@zmag.org, countdown@msnbc.com, mail@democracynow.org



    • xgreenxcloverx, on 11/19/2007, -0/+1Thanks for the list! I just emailed every one of those addresses.
  • phnx0221, on 10/31/2007, -1/+14Here is a link to the list of Senators, and their contact information. It includes their Washington addresses, and their phone numbers:

    http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/ ...

    Make sure to contact Senator Chris Dodd as well. (202) 224-2823
    He has done a lot for us in regards to net neutrality, and continuing a filibuster to prevent telecom immunity.
    He'll be a great advocate for this, regardless of whether or not he is your representative.
  • phnx0221, on 10/31/2007, -1/+15And finally...

    http://www.thenation.com/contact/lett

    This link will bring you to a standard contact form. Just copy and paste your message into their box, and send it.

    I can't believe this got buried. I'm going to shout this out again to all of my friends. PLEASE do the same. This is something that simply cannot go unchecked. Only 6 representatives voted no on this one. That means that this was a bi-partisan attack on our civil liberties, our right to dissent, our right to voice our opinions against this unchecked government, and most importantly, our constitutional, human right to organize in our dissent to try to make a powerful impact. All of you, please do the same, we have to get this up there on the front page so that everyone will see what happened today.
  • duggtodeath, on 10/31/2007, -1/+11Arrest this ***** now! There, I'm a terrorist!
  • Apokalyps2547, on 10/31/2007, -17/+2READ the BILL!
    It defines terrorists as those who use VIOLENCE or plan on being VIOLENT! It doesn't outlaw dissent, just ACTUAL TERRORISM!
    • caferrell, on 10/31/2007, -1/+19friend, "violence" is already illegal, so the bill is unnecessary in that regrd. This bill and the commission that it sets up will be in charge of spying on American citizens.
      you are a tool
    • TritonX, on 10/31/2007, -1/+8And how do you know someone is planning to be violent? This is open to a lot of interpretations.
    • Rsardinia, on 10/31/2007, -2/+7Is speaking out against someone "planning" on becoming violent? If I talk ***** about someone around here that could be interpretted as I want to cause them bodily harm. Same could be said when speaking out against our government officials. Saying "I Hate Dick Cheney" could mean you hate him enough to kill him or you just really dislike him and do not want him in office, that's up to the interpretation of the guy who's reading/hearing what you are saying.
    • speerross, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3"It defines terrorists as those who use VIOLENCE or plan on being VIOLENT!"

      Doesn't that make the Bush Administration terrorists?
    • objectcode, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1thats how it starts
    • pawnzRus, on 11/01/2007, -0/+0Oh my god! Has someone sucked farts until they went retarded!!!
      "It defines terrorists as those who use VIOLENCE or plan on being VIOLENT!" - That only encompasses about 99.99% of the people in the WORLD! +
      Children - Violent
      Animals - Violent
      Mother Nature - Violent
      The way this bill written, everything is a potential terrorist, except maybe people in comas.
    • grenden, on 12/02/2007, -0/+1"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
      --Thomas Jefferson
      You were saying something about violence? What about those who plan a revolution? Should patriots be labeled terrorists?
  • geddon, on 10/31/2007, -1/+10The previous thread is still available, although last night it seemed to be offline for a few hours; the result of which seemingly stopped the story from escalating to the front page. Is there room for a tin foil hat or simply a coincidence? Either way, its sad to see the 'split in human evolution' story overtake one of the greatest threats to our Democracy.

    http://www.digg.com/politics/Thought_Crime_Prevent ...
    • phnx0221, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2Indeed. Maybe it had something to do with the popularity of the thread? Since everyone was in agreement with each other, and all comments were getting a large number of diggs, vs 0 to 1 buries, maybe the algorithm caught it, and buried it out of suspicion?
      I don't really know, I'm just guessing.
  • 30thElement, on 10/31/2007, -1/+7Ironically, this makes me want to buy a gun.
    • Moneybomber, on 12/09/2007, -0/+0You better. The 2nd amendment is up for a Supreme Court review soon. The issue is precisely whether or not you have a right to have a gun as an independent person-- not a member of a militia
  • unfilterthought, on 10/31/2007, -1/+7this is scary *****.
  • tehnico, on 10/31/2007, -1/+5The last section of the bill.
    "`SEC. 899F. PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES WHILE PREVENTING IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM."

    Outlines (hopefully) that the bill cannot be enforced if doing so would violate constitutional rights, subject to an audit of the circumstances surrounding the charge.
    • geddon, on 10/31/2007, -1/+4"Protecting Civil Rights and Civil Liberties" is certainly the motto of the Bush Administration.
      • objectcode, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1damn right it is, you better be careful of what you say. they are listening (or reading)
    • Izult, on 12/16/2007, -0/+1HOW do they enforce that half? there's too many things that are under defined in this whole thing.

      (2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.

      How is extremist belief system defined? How is belief system defined? Who defines these and based on what information? Simply voicing an opinion is not a crime neither is peaceably gathering to promote a point of view or protest for redress of a grievance. Please refer to the First Amendment
  • geddon, on 10/31/2007, -0/+7"According to U.S. Justice Department projections, the cost of "Homegrown Terrorism", crime in America has cost American taxpayers over $2 trillion dollars since 9/11/01 (cost now standing at $675 billion annually). The nation has lost approximately 7,300 lives with hundreds more injured including the 9/11/01 tragedy and subsequent war against offshore terrorism. According to USJD statistics, since 9/11/01 violent crime in America has totaled over 2 million crimes with approximately 50,000 murders."
    http://www.bookflash.com/releases/100947.html
    • phnx0221, on 10/31/2007, -1/+4Wow, what a load of propaganda *****. The fact that he used USJD statistics, to supplement his hateful vengeance on "immorality" is really disturbing. This guy labels virtually all crime as domestic terrorism, as well as any lifestyle that isn't that of a stereotypical wealthy white upper class family. The sad thing is, that this type of thing, if not this very book, could be picked up by the talking heads and put forth as actual fact, backed by statistics from the Department of Justice. Implemented propaganda, same as it's always been, except this time, far more dangerous to the average American citizen.
  • alternativecatI, on 10/31/2007, -2/+4Please watch this video with Naomi Wolf. I think she's making a mistake in not endorsing Ron Paul though if she's right. http://youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

    I have also contacted my Senator by the way. You can use www.congress.org to do this. You just put in your zip code and it finds all of your representatives.

    Pleople should start printing the bill out and passing it out to people.
  • anarchytv, on 10/31/2007, -2/+8Homegrown terrorism? You mean the terroists aren't Al Queda, but are originating inside the United States??? We've been looking in the wrong places all this time? The enemy is within. Who could these be, the only groups I know of that have weapons and intimidate and terrorize people who don't comply with their ideology are... hmmm... Perhaps, the CIA? The FBI? The NSA? Your local law enforcement agency? The only people I know around here that play with bombs are the military base 20 miles away, that regularly shoots 50 caliber and mortar rounds... weapons of mass destruction... hmm, perhaps the weapons grade tritium refining nuclear plant down the road in the other direction... good lord, South Carolina is chocked full of WMDs... from what I remember of Civil War history, they were the first to suceed, and violently took up arms against the US government and openly warred against them... and have been under military occupation since losing that war. South Carolina is probably a hotbed of homegrown terrorists.
  • snyperr2s, on 10/31/2007, -1/+5to bad that one guys grenade didnt go off when he threw it at bush :'( there, im a terrorist
  • guestaccount, on 10/31/2007, -1/+10"`(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change."

    Anyone else think this is exactly what the bush administration has been doing during their entire reign?
  • Wacer, on 11/05/2007, -1/+9There is still time. Write your Senators and tell them how you feel.
    • SeethisPass, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3Then describe the word "feel" for them.
  • SeethisPass, on 11/05/2007, -1/+6I support the immediate arrest of George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleeza Rice, Feith, Wolfowitz, All PNAC menbers, Rudi Giuliiani, All Fox "News" personel,and Both Clintons. Others to be added as needed.
  • Observant1, on 11/05/2007, -1/+3hell, they declared war on us when CIA bush senior started importing drugs through korea and vietnam, and more importing when he was vice president under reagan and his buddy's son john hinkley shot the president and he put nancy on the podium to reverse psychology advertize these drugs wiht a "just say no!" campaign and a "war on drugs". then another declaration of war when bill clinton handed tons of technology to china and in a baton pass with bush, rams NAFTA on through. meantime hillary is board of directors to walmart 6 years making bucks importing Chinese slave made consumer goods that bankrupt American manufacturers leaving millions unemployed at the same time the government is giving out corporate welfare so companies can leave the US, and workers unemployed.. they declared war on us 9-11-01 and have been accelerating turning this nation into a fascist control grid police state so badly that ITT technical institute is even advertizing "be a cop!". they declared war years ago handing over 70% of American land over to the UN, and we'll be living to see the day they try to collect it.. which may be any time soon. as red blooded Americans it is nothing short of our duty to resist any and all of these efforts by these traitors in power trying to ruin this nation, who think they own us. prescott bush was busted for funding nazi's, george senior was a CIA man since its inception and used Air America (like the mel gibson movie) and other small private airlines to import drugs, and GWB burns the 9-11 reischtag and cracks jokes about being a dictator starting up "fatherland (homeland) security". says he saw the first plane hit.. he have a private camera man for a private live feed or something? its getting down to the wire now for this nation, these criminals need to face their own "new rules" for their crimes. these "new rules" are treason enough for them all to go down, if people only knew what this nation once was and is supposed to be, what the constitution and bill of rights actually are.
    the devil GWB damned it as "just a piece of paper" and should have been jailed that moment.
  • dakotaterritory, on 11/05/2007, -1/+4“When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right”
    ~ Victor Hugo.

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
    ~ John Fitzgerald Kennedy
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/31/2007, -4/+6Its a good thing you are all a bunch of lazy, non-violent, pussies, otherwise you would be terrorists.
    • objectcode, on 10/31/2007, -2/+2unlike yourself im sure
      • Hortnon, on 10/31/2007, -3/+4He's not the one talking about revolting.
        • objectcode, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1but is he violent or a lazy non-violent pussy?
        • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/31/2007, -3/+4I'll let you know once I feel like a violent overthrow of the government is necessary.
    • maxtangent, on 12/08/2007, -0/+1Planning is not doing. This Bill is all about thought crime.
      I can tell you are on the losing side of the argument because all you did was throw in an Ad Hominem attack.
      Why do you hate freedom?
  • CynthiaK23, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Get us out of this mess! Vote Ron Paul!!!
  • toejuiceDCUP, on 11/05/2007, -0/+4Put me on that list right now *****. ***** this *****. Our government is getting worse by the day.
  • CharlesAM, on 11/07/2007, -3/+2Are you people all idiots? George Bush is thoroughly incapable of orchestrating an overthrow of the Constitution. The only people who can destroy the Constitution are your elected officials in Congress. No, not the Republicans. Not the Democrats. They are ALL THE SAME PARTY. You morons who still think one party is "good" and the other is "bad" are the REAL PROBLEM with this country. And you pussies whining for Ron Paul to come save you are the most helpless and pathetic cretins of all. Ron Paul is a CLOWN, people. What makes any of you think that one person, be it George Bush or Ron Paul or Obama bin Rodham, is capable of controlling the course of a nation? It's NOT the president, stupid. It's your traitors in Congress. Get off your pathetic asses and FIRE those corrupt pigs.
    • jeebusroxors, on 12/10/2007, -0/+290% correct, Ron Paul is no clown, But the key to change is to start small at local government, not even Congress, although it wouldn't hurt. With the way things are going, regular Joes may have a pretty easy time getting elected.
  • itchcity, on 11/19/2007, -0/+2This is really, really ***** up. Why does this have only 163 diggs?

  • elgringo74, on 11/20/2007, -0/+3I highly doubt that our forefathers had non-violence in mind when writing the 2nd amendment. Combine that with my belief that big government is bad government. Does that make me a terrorist. Who decides? We have plenty of laws on the books for dealing with violence. The government has no business dictating what is extreme ideology and what is not!
  • taureandevi, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1Kucinich was one of the 6 lone representatives who opposed this bill. Ron Paul did not vote!
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h200 ...
    • chiripero, on 03/09/2008, -0/+0Read Ron Paul's response to that vote on his website today (March 9th). He was out of town when they shoved that vote through. He addressed Congress on Friday voicing his disapproval of the process Congress used to shove it through while he was away.
  • puskas75, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1I think Charles AM is on the right track. It is in the best interest of all politicians to stay in power. Most are wealthy upper class, which accounts for a small percentage of the US. Think they really want to help anyone else out. The two party system guarantees they ALL stay in power and get richer. It is time for change and has been for some time. It is time for citizens to think outside the box and overhaul the system.
  • phillipbrittain, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1Couple this with the US Government getting firefighters to spy on Americans and lawfully intrude without warrants and it's a scary situation. I am so close to moving out of this country. Teh Bush Crimes Family is making Mexico look desirable. No wonder they bought property about 1/2 the size of Rhode Island. They will need an escape hatch is Americans can stop watching "Dancing with the Stars" long enough to get pissed off.
  • OrbitalZen, on 12/04/2007, -0/+2I found this entire resolution to be extremely disconcerting and quite possibly a solemn omen of things to come, after some careful research on HR 1955 I have personally sent a letter to my own state Senator, Bill Nelson of FL. I encourage you all to do the same and garner some public awareness on this issue before it is swept under the media carpet.
  • nightmareuki, on 01/09/2008, -0/+0in late 1940's they tried to make USA a NAZI country, but they picked a wrong man in charge who blew the whistle once he found out all involved, but this time they almost completely succeeded, patriot act, HR 1955, camps all over USA. game is over, money hungry corporations, oil companies, Rockefellers, Rothschilds have won .
    • blar, on 01/22/2008, -0/+1Just wait till they make you register your guns too.... that's the next thing to have a defenseless populous that can be ruled.
  • blackpanther2, on 01/18/2008, -0/+1See ya'll at the concentration camps!
  • CharlesAM, on 01/18/2008, -0/+0Come on, people, you're ALMOST awake. No, it's NOT the "Bush Crime Family" who's trying to kill freedom of speech and dissent in America. The Bush administration is a mere end-cap on the Executive branch of government, and George Bush himself is a mere hood ornament of a leader. It's CONGRESS that is at the dark heart of HR1955 and S1959, people. No, the president is just a hood ornament, I don't care if his name is Bush or Clinton or whomever. Your ENEMY is Congress. Get your heads on straight and TAKE ACTION NOW.
  • blar, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2Instead of bitching about it do something about it! get out there ad support/vote for Ron Paul, spread the word and end this crazy BS.
    Who is the only cadidate out there from either party talking about ending this kind of un-American BS and restoring YOUR liberties? Ron Paul! all the others are just plastic cookie cutters... Bush 2.0's WAKE UP!
    • chiripero, on 03/09/2008, -0/+0Blar, you hit it right on the nose ! I am a precinct leader here in California for Ron Paul and I support any office-seeker who governs by Ron Paul's Platform of Constitutional government ! Also, read Devvy Kidd's column on the internet, she is another Constitutionalist who ran unsuccessfully for Congress, but I would back her in a heartbeat ! She has the right message and would get the job done !
  • chiripero, on 03/09/2008, -0/+0From the Winter 2007-08 Issue of Political Science Quarterly, Page 536.
    After the collapse of the Soviet Empire....."In 1989-1990 one of the flagship neoconservative journals, "The National Interest," published a series of articles, mostly by conservatives and neoconservatives, on America's purpose after the Cold War. Irving Kristol, one of the godfather's of neoconservatism wrote:

    It is very difficult for a great power--a world power--to articulate a foreign policy in the absence of an enemy worthy of the name. It is, after all, kone's enemies that help define one's "national interest," in whatever form that definition might take. Without such enemies, one flounders amidst a plentitude of rather trivial, or at least marginal, options. That, it seems to me, is the condition of the United States today, as we enter the post-Cold War era."

    Those "trivial" or "marginal" options, would be things like healthcare for our citizens, scientific research to develop new technologies to improve life for all citizens of the world, new enrgy technology, improved transportation technolgy etc. With a newly defined "enemy" we can always spend our money and enrgy going around the world killing people that you will no longer have to feed. ALL of this for the international bankers (who call the shots) and the miltary-industrial complex. This has been going on for the last 200 - 300 years ! Read "Web Of Debt" by Ellen Hogsdon Brown, published in 2007, it is a course in education for all peoples of the world !
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