Homeless vet to Bill O'Reilly: "That guy is an *****." watch!
bravenewfilms.org — Ryan Sussman, a homeless veteran who served in the Navy reacts to recent comments by FOX News' Bill O'Reilly.
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- HabeasCorpuscle, on 02/09/2008, -10/+217I don't understand why these vets don't just hop in their jets and fly to their summer homes. That's what Bill-O would do.
- LukasSmith, on 02/09/2008, -81/+4Ok A. That guy doesnt look like he lives on the streets. He looks like he just came from the gap B. Where is that guys proud family? He looks about 23 I kinda doubt his parents are dead. Why isn't this douche living with his parents Hint Hint like most digg users living with parents at 23. C. This douche worked on a ***** sub, hes a navy boy, why do we even have a navy seriously? wtf do they do? anything? D. I don't believe he got jack when he returned to civilian world. Did he consider going to college with military scholarships? Also notice how he doesn't have a supportive girlfriend at his side. Oh wait don't ask don't tell. E. This is partisan *****. Plus who is to say he is in fact homeless? I want to see pictures of his cardboard box and bicycle. dugg down for no pictures. My guess though is this is just another digg user's propaganda video.
- adooga, on 02/09/2008, -3/+37Sooo... I don't see a supportive girl in your picture either....
oh yeah he's 21 but I guess you missed that because it was just about the first thing he said, also in the second sentence of the article.
Then I don't imagine you watched or read any of it.
Btw is that the official line now, we only talk about army and air force? Navy doesn't count?
You're a disgraceful little worm and you know it. - Earthacis, on 02/09/2008, -1/+27So what, everyone who's homeless has to live in a cardboard box and wear raggedy clothes? Your just as blind as O'Reilly.
Homeless means you don't have a home it doesn't mean you don't have clothes. Usually your left with what ever clothes you can carry in your car (If you have a car) and what ever else you could grab.
I have a friend who had to get out of his house because the owner sold it out from under them. (which happened to be a family member) He had to get out and grab what ever he could throw in a U-haul, take it to storage and could not afford to stay at a motel. So he and his family had to live where ever he could find and eventually had to go to a homeless shelter.- Dred, on 02/09/2008, -8/+2so you just watched your friend struggle and didn't try to help him out, and you say he is you friend still, wow. I work with homeless people, and people who are addicted to drugs and other things. That guy did not fit the bill, first look at the watch and the clothes. Sure you don't have to be dirty to or messed up looking to be homeless, but that guy would have been robbed in a few hours on the street looking like that. I have seen it happen to many times. I am a veteran as well, and transition back into civilian life is hard, but there are men and women who come out of the service everyday who make it. All you have to do is buckle down, man up, get a job, and do the best you can. So it is my opinion that this guy is full of crap or just stuck on feeling sorry for himself.
- LukasSmith, on 02/09/2008, -34/+1Homelessness means if you aren't mentally or physically disabled you are one useless lazy ***** who deserves to die on the street. I would say the democratic motto is " the best things in life are free". lazy *****. You cant afford your house? get two jobs. get educated or stfu.
- yensed, on 02/09/2008, -0/+18Ohh Bill, come on.. You couldn't get any more creative then "LukasSmith"?
- buzzkilled, on 02/09/2008, -0/+22Hypocrisy at its finest folks. You love sending people to war, but heavens forbid they might actually need help getting back on their feet. And unless you actually served in the army you're in no position to know what he's going through. Your greedy selfish attitude is whats wrong with most this country.
- dobbinmon, on 02/09/2008, -0/+24So let me get this right, these guys serve in the military for years protecting YOUR ass in situations where you'd crap your pants and cry to mommy... and you call them lazy? Come on now, look at your profile... you've been on digg only a handful of months yet have managed to find the time in your 'busy' schedule to digg 800+ articles and during that time digging you're of course working your ass off right? - oh wait no, because the system hasn't shat on you and thrown you on the street - jackass
- DarkSamus, on 02/09/2008, -0/+12owned
- LukasSmith, on 02/09/2008, -18/+1This guy spent 2 years in the ..............NAVY.................., enough said.
- midbc, on 02/09/2008, -0/+10much less of a accomplishment than you spending your whole life with your head up your ass
how many people join the military that are broke or want a better education with promises of both only to end up homeless when they are no longer needed or get injured - LukasSmith, on 02/09/2008, -10/+1He was in the ..............Navy............., do they even have a budget? He should have joined th Army.
- midbc, on 02/09/2008, -0/+10much less of a accomplishment than you spending your whole life with your head up your ass
- jj101, on 02/09/2008, -0/+9@Lukas - Enough said? You said nothing. So he was in the Navy - does that means he's gay? Even if he does happen to be gay, does that mean he's not worth caring about? You look like you're partial to a little trip down the cadburys canal yourself and like a you smoked too much weed to keep you eyes open in your profile pic. So should we put your comments down to mental imbalance caused by dope psychosis? If I were you I'd roll with that cause the other option is that you are an insecure, homophobic, brainwashed plonker.
- Coffeedemon, on 02/09/2008, -0/+9"Homelessness means if you aren't mentally or physically disabled you are one useless lazy ***** who deserves to die on the street"
You ignorant bastard. You're 24? Thats old enough to have a clue. - midbc, on 02/09/2008, -0/+10wouldn't it be funny if you become homeless and ended up living under the same bridge with that soldier and he made you his bitch
- njcarlos, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2Wow, I'm not one for being an "internet thug" so I'll refrain from the empty threats, but you really deserve to rot in hell. :)
- pathy, on 02/09/2008, -3/+16A. That guy doesnt look like he lives on the streets. He looks like he just came from the gap
- Homeless people do not all live on the street.
B. Where is that guys proud family? He looks about 23 I kinda doubt his parents are dead. Why isn't this douche living with his parents Hint Hint like most digg users living with parents at 23.
- I have friends older and younger than 20 that have had to leave home for one reason or another - a few of whome are in the military themselves. You have no idea what situation he is in with his family and simply because you had a nice upbringing does not mean that is universal.
C. This douche worked on a ***** sub, hes a navy boy, why do we even have a navy seriously? wtf do they do? anything?
- A lot of things when you're surrounded by water, that can make it a little difficult for tanks and infantry to go across.
D. I don't believe he got jack when he returned to civilian world. Did he consider going to college with military scholarships? Also notice how he doesn't have a supportive girlfriend at his side. Oh wait don't ask don't tell.
- Even if he was gay, what's the problem? I'm not sure of the situation with the US Navy, but I wouldn't doubt they'd reject your wants for college when you've stopped serving.
E. This is partisan *****. Plus who is to say he is in fact homeless? I want to see pictures of his cardboard box and bicycle. dugg down for no pictures. My guess though is this is just another digg user's propaganda video.
- There's not a lot I can say to this, is there? If you don't trust anything you see or hear without solid proof then congratulations, but you must not trust a lot of things. - andrewry, on 02/09/2008, -0/+3Just to respond do your Navy comment:
You mention the Air Force being more important, but how would the majority of the jets and planes even get over to Iraq without the help of Aircraft carriers, which are operated by mostly Navy personnel. As well, Navy also launches submarines which help launch missiles at targets, which help the troops on the ground. There is more they do, but I don't want to waste my time proving your ignorance wrong. - Yesplease, on 02/09/2008, -0/+5LukasSmith, I like you're picture. You look like a really cool guy. And VERY heterosexual I might add.
- adooga, on 02/09/2008, -3/+37Sooo... I don't see a supportive girl in your picture either....
- naterpoke, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2WELL I THINK HE'S HOMELESS
- WasntMe, on 02/09/2008, -0/+4Whoosh!
- trailboss49, on 02/10/2008, -1/+0Whenever I scratch my rectum I must be picking your nose because you are such an *****.
- LukasSmith, on 02/09/2008, -81/+4Ok A. That guy doesnt look like he lives on the streets. He looks like he just came from the gap B. Where is that guys proud family? He looks about 23 I kinda doubt his parents are dead. Why isn't this douche living with his parents Hint Hint like most digg users living with parents at 23. C. This douche worked on a ***** sub, hes a navy boy, why do we even have a navy seriously? wtf do they do? anything? D. I don't believe he got jack when he returned to civilian world. Did he consider going to college with military scholarships? Also notice how he doesn't have a supportive girlfriend at his side. Oh wait don't ask don't tell. E. This is partisan *****. Plus who is to say he is in fact homeless? I want to see pictures of his cardboard box and bicycle. dugg down for no pictures. My guess though is this is just another digg user's propaganda video.
- truman48, on 02/09/2008, -73/+15And most of you all want the government to run your health care. No Thanks, when I hear the words government and programs I know things will be FUBAR.
- Mikhail101, on 02/09/2008, -4/+20Irrelavent
- pintomp3, on 02/09/2008, -2/+38gotta love the tactics of the conservatives. run the government like maniacs and then say "do you really want the government to run things?".
- truman48, on 02/09/2008, -0/+3I am not a conservative, I think america is great because of americans, not because of more government. Name me one state or local government that is some what 70% competent.
- hmcook87, on 02/09/2008, -1/+12to be honest, i probably wouldn't want the american government running my health care. With a competent government however, it works great. you may notice that every other western nation has state run health care, because every other western nation has a government capable of running it effectively.
- CannibalTom, on 02/09/2008, -9/+127Get this man on the O'Reilly Factor, NOW!
- Chaoticfist, on 02/09/2008, -7/+18Maybe if the world is lucky he would beat the living ***** out of Bill.......and maybe bill wouldn't be able to go back to the show.....
-goes and prays- MicrosoftBob, on 02/09/2008, -1/+4I just wish *somebody* would beat the living ***** of of Bill.
Are you there, God?
- MicrosoftBob, on 02/09/2008, -1/+4I just wish *somebody* would beat the living ***** of of Bill.
- sgtbutterscotch, on 02/09/2008, -7/+5I bet O'Reilly wouldn't believe that the guy is homeless. Secondly, I am interested in knowing if that the statistic of 90% homeless vets are mentally ill or addicted to drugs is accurate. Whoever made the video definitely showed their bias when they showed that one piece of video. Do a documentary of the first 100 homeless vets you can find and show me that more than 10 of them are sane people just like the guy from this video. But then I wonder if post-traumatic stress disorder counts as a "mental illness." Thirdly, and a bit off topic, but I wonder if people got post-traumatic stress disorder centuries ago, such as in the Revolutionary War and, going even further back, in all those Roman and Greek wars...
- sgtbutterscotch, on 02/09/2008, -1/+5Also, I suppose homeless vets should definitely be able to get help to fight drug addiction. We, as in the United States government and thus, the people, should not just go about this as if homeless vets have done this to themselves and not bother to offer a hand of assistance. If there truly is a situation where there are thousands of homeless vets, we really should be helping.
- thall, on 02/09/2008, -0/+3It makes me wonder how much worse the numbers will get. He said the transition program was essentially canceled. If america does not reach out and embrace these "lost" soldiers, it will cause dissociation to grow which could lead them to hate (or maybe not care about) american society; americans versus military.
- thcobbs, on 02/09/2008, -4/+6"But then I wonder if post-traumatic stress disorder counts as a "mental illness." Thirdly, and a bit off topic, but I wonder if people got post-traumatic stress disorder centuries ago, such as in the Revolutionary War and, going even further back, in all those Roman and Greek wars..."
Ummm... YES and YES
"Secondly, I am interested in knowing if that the statistic of 90% homeless vets are mentally ill or addicted to drugs is accurate. Whoever made the video definitely showed their bias when they showed that one piece of video. Do a documentary of the first 100 homeless vets you can find and show me that more than 10 of them are sane people just like the guy from this video."
You obviously have no understanding of statistics by your final sentence as I quoted here.
@sqtbutterscotch
"Also, I suppose homeless vets should definitely be able to get help to fight drug addiction. "
They can... its called the VA and its free. All they have to do is show up.
http://www.mirecc.va.gov/Recovery_Resources.asp- sgtbutterscotch, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2What's wrong with my math? I was just using the stats from the clip of O'Reilly. I think I went overboard when I said "sane," but I think you know what I meant. On second thought, if any person has risked their life for the "protection" of this country, then we shouldn't ignore most of them as O'Reilly says, even if they are mentally ill or addicted to drugs, which I was trying to say in that other comment of mine you quoted. I just felt like only interviewing only one homeless vet was a disservice to the argument that the interviewer is trying to make.
- thcobbs, on 02/10/2008, -0/+1Grabbing 100 homeless veterans is HARDLY a representative sample.
- pidey, on 02/11/2008, -0/+1Actually, with 100 people interviewed, mathmatically, the error margin would be 10%. Formula for a yes/no question is sqrt(1/number interviewed). Keep that in mind.
- thcobbs, on 02/11/2008, -0/+1and by him stating that by just simply finding more than 10 sane doesn't prove anything outside the confidence interval.
- sgtbutterscotch, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2What's wrong with my math? I was just using the stats from the clip of O'Reilly. I think I went overboard when I said "sane," but I think you know what I meant. On second thought, if any person has risked their life for the "protection" of this country, then we shouldn't ignore most of them as O'Reilly says, even if they are mentally ill or addicted to drugs, which I was trying to say in that other comment of mine you quoted. I just felt like only interviewing only one homeless vet was a disservice to the argument that the interviewer is trying to make.
- gilgtc, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2Your question regarding post traumatic stress disorder in other times is very interesting.
I really have no knowledge about it but I can imagine that yes, there would certainly be traumatic stress disorder. I guess it would be a bit different from today's times given the different context and experiences they undergo. I would imagine that the severity of the trauma increases with time due to the much higher number of deaths, suicides, rapes, etc. that the soldier might be exposed too in modern times. The nature of this "war" is also quite different from anything that has ever happened before, you never know when a roadside bomb is going to take your arms and legs away. Also, I am sure that not knowing what they really are doing there does not help, at least in previous wars there always seemed to be a definite, honest, real pretense for war.
Anyways, I hope someone can enlighten us.
Z- adooga, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2Just terminology. Ever heard of shell shock?
- sgtbutterscotch, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1I think that suicides and rapes were common in many other wars centuries before this, but I think you are right in saying that the type of post-traumatic stress disorder would be different in nature. I was just thinking back to the movie 300 where everyone considered it an honor to die and another story from Digg about women's brains and a commenter said something about "men are brought up to not care about feelings." But when a soldier in today's world and has post-traumatic stress, most people can sympathize for them. So I was curious if this happened in ancient wars or if most soldiers just kept their emotions bottled in and fought to the death as best they could. I feel like in ancient times people fought for something transcendent of themselves while people who fight today, specifically American soldiers who find themselves in the midst of a war zone, fight because they are desperate to stay alive (and because it's their orders).
- sgtbutterscotch, on 02/09/2008, -1/+5Also, I suppose homeless vets should definitely be able to get help to fight drug addiction. We, as in the United States government and thus, the people, should not just go about this as if homeless vets have done this to themselves and not bother to offer a hand of assistance. If there truly is a situation where there are thousands of homeless vets, we really should be helping.
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 02/09/2008, -0/+7On the Factor a few nights after O'Reilly pissed everyone off, there was a homeless vet protest outside his studio. So what did O'Reilly do?
He sent a camera crew down to the street to interview some of them, to make them seem as if all of them were clueless. They interviews some random old people who "had no idea what O'Reilly even said". Clearly it was totally biased, as is expected from The Loofa Guy. But the interview shown here is clear proof that there are some non-addict vets who are still homeless.
O'Reilly doesn't care about these people, even though he constantly tries to pretend that he does on his show.
He will never interview this vet. Because it means O'Reilly was wrong, and he'll actually have to put forth effort to *help* vets like this man. - nittanylion06, on 02/09/2008, -0/+4O'Reilly would just say that this guy represents the 10% (the "extreme minority") of legitimate homeless vets, and then blame Veterans Affairs.
- metric7, on 02/10/2008, -0/+2This guy Ryan only served 2.5 years so he must have been kicked out for something, my guess is drugs or being drunk to much. So now he is homeless? ***** dude get a ***** job.
/ btw, i'm a vet, 4 and out!! - theblt, on 02/10/2008, -0/+2Comment from the site -
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guys, he was a Navy Airman. we don't have any Navy AN's on the ground in Iraq, wherever he says he went. If he has PTSD or TBI, he didn't get it from the Navy.
And there is NO 2-year enlistment program in the Navy. if he got out at 2 years, and it wasn't medical (which he would have mentioned, for sympathy purposes, NTM the fact that the Vinson didn't have any AN's injured in that time frame), then it was drugs or disciplinary. All there is to it. I am active-duty, and the other guy in my office is as well, and was on the Vinson during that time frame. The only way he could have gotten out at 2 years, and it not be a negative discharge, is a program called NCS (National Call to Service), which doesn't make Airmen, and which would have put him in the drilling reserve at that time automatically.
and as far as the comment about getting recalled, that is 8 years from the beginning of active duty (Inactive Ready Reserve). the Navy hasn't called up any IRR that I am aware of, and wouldn't be calling back short-service airmen either way, unless we started losing carriers in job lots.
and I have never heard of anyone not going to TAP (Transition Assistance Program) class, who did not get out with an OTH/Bad Conduct Discharge/Dishonorable. In 8 years, everyone I have known who has gotten out has gone.
This guy is full of bs."
The government likely didn't give this man any support because of disciplinary action, whether it be drug abuse or something else.
- Chaoticfist, on 02/09/2008, -7/+18Maybe if the world is lucky he would beat the living ***** out of Bill.......and maybe bill wouldn't be able to go back to the show.....
- SRSco, on 02/09/2008, -115/+9***** this guy.
1) In the Navy? Didn't see any combat time. What? Did one of those little tiny Iranian rafts scare him?
2) You need training to get back into society? GTFO. Just apply for some jobs.
3) I don't need a three.- homer4199, on 02/09/2008, -7/+47You're a ***** idiot.
- carterbaldwin, on 02/09/2008, -4/+58If you watched the whole interview, the dude said he served a tour in Iraq. How many tours have you served?
- Mikhail101, on 02/09/2008, -4/+27***** you they should draft idiots like you into war, i bet you would be ***** ***** your pants with that attitude of yours. its not easy getting a job in a class based society as people who are of a lower class cannot afford a proper eduction. You fat ***** pussy.
- pintomp3, on 02/09/2008, -2/+8reminds me of the generation chickenhawk video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGit_tZDqs - griz, on 02/09/2008, -3/+2"***** you they should draft idiots like you into war, i bet you would be ***** ***** your pants with that attitude of yours."
Precisely the reason they don't to that.
- pintomp3, on 02/09/2008, -2/+8reminds me of the generation chickenhawk video
- raf4far, on 02/09/2008, -2/+19So you've been to war right? Also you know what its like to kill people, watch people get killed etc. right?
Are you really that arrogant to think that the Navy are only in boats? Wow heard of the Seals? Ever heard of navy men and women dying in the line of combat? Maybe you should go read a little before you make some assumptions about this stuff. Honor the people who go risk their lives.- lanzemurdok, on 02/09/2008, -5/+3.
- AdamWillis, on 02/09/2008, -0/+4Not only seals or any of our other special warfare rates, We also have Seabees which are construction workers with guns because they are building in combat areas and we also have a thing called IA (individual augmentation) which is when the navy pulls volunteers and if not enough volunteers then they pick names out of a hat probably and force people to do 1yr tours through Iraq. I'm an ET for the navy and it is pretty common to send us even though we work with electronics and have no experience with combat.
- lanzemurdok, on 02/09/2008, -2/+13what's wrong with people like you?
- Vaktathi, on 02/09/2008, -1/+12Did you watch the whole thing you retard? He served a tour in Iraq. Have you? Do you know anything but the ***** you've been spoon-fed in whatever la-la land you grew up in?
Grow up and get a life. - digitalbuzz, on 02/09/2008, -1/+19If it wasn't for Navy corpsmen alot of my fellow Marines wouldn't have made it home. Brave sonsabiches.
- arcangelgabriel, on 02/09/2008, -1/+9Echoing digitalbuzz, A ***** men. USN corpsmen saved my ass several times and kept many of my fellow marines from dying in a jungle. Armed forces are a team effort, navy, air force, army or ground pounders like I was. Obviously you have zero idea as to what your spewing about, no surprise there really, So, SRSco, Please on behalf of men and women in uniform and especially on behalf of the United States Marine Corps, ***** you.
Semper Fi.- boombye, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1He doesn't understand that because he's some douche bag right winger in HS that calls everything "lame" or "stupid" or "retarded" and then pretends he's some Obama supporter.
- antiorblkflag9, on 02/09/2008, -1/+3Dear God
- boombye, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1You're a ***** disgrace to my country SRSco, regardless of your political affiliation, you're just a disgusting excuse for a human being.
- boombye, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1BTW, How are you going to have Barack Obama as your candidate on your profile, you're just some douchebag right winger pretending to be on us. You're just vile man, I'm disgusted.
- redrock34, on 02/09/2008, -8/+35The government has a solution: reenlist in the military. The military industrial complex depends on low income individuals desperately seeking to better themselves financially. Voluntary military? If you can justify a push into the military by the invisible hand of this "free market" we live in that feeds the military industrial complex, sure it's voluntary to join.
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 02/09/2008, -4/+4There's nothing wrong with a military career.
Hey, if it's what you're good at, may as well go for it. After you've served a few years out of high school, you're already off to a good start. I'm not trying to sound like a douche, but there's nothing despicable about military careers.- generalchaos316, on 02/09/2008, -0/+9I don't think he was bashing on military careers so much as he is bashing on the fact that there is a large number of people enlisted just to make ends meet financially, due to the fact that they can't find decent enough civilian jobs given the economy. The gov't would be the one responsible for this for a variety or reasons and this is where the problem is.
Not saying I agree with any or all of it but just wanted to drop my .02.- FatLoser, on 02/09/2008, -3/+1"...just wanted to drop my .02."
*snatches up .02*
.02!!~!! I'M RICH I DON'T HAVE TO ENLIST NOW. Oh praise jesus
- FatLoser, on 02/09/2008, -3/+1"...just wanted to drop my .02."
- MofugginPaulrus, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1Besides the whole "being a hired thug" thing, sure.
- jessehadden, on 02/09/2008, -0/+0Except that you're paid to kill people for political reasons.
- trailboss49, on 02/10/2008, -0/+0Yeah, & I bet that you think Vietnam veterans are baby killers too. Hippie punk.
- generalchaos316, on 02/09/2008, -0/+9I don't think he was bashing on military careers so much as he is bashing on the fact that there is a large number of people enlisted just to make ends meet financially, due to the fact that they can't find decent enough civilian jobs given the economy. The gov't would be the one responsible for this for a variety or reasons and this is where the problem is.
- ICSU, on 02/09/2008, -1/+3The answer is obvious:
lower the defense budget
downsize the army - AdamWillis, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2They left because they don't want to reenlist. I would rather reenlist than live on the streets but they probably don't want to risk going back to Iraq or just didn't like military life. No one outside of the military sees how stressful our jobs can be even while you're stationed at home. We work crazy hours and are constantly being pulled away from our family and social life to do ***** for the gov't. It's not like Civilian life where if you don't feel like coming to work, you can just call in sick or quit. Or like me, I am E-4 and without being married, I can't get BAH (housing money) unless I do get married, hit E-5 or stay E-4 for at least 4 yrs. I bet almost no one outside the military knows what it is like to be at work and then when your hours are over, you still don't leave. You live, at work, almost never leaving unless you go out into town being forced to spend money. And if you don't leave, you have the chance of someone just grabbing you and forcing you to work more. It's not an easy or fun life. Whether they can or can't reenlist shouldn't matter. The real issue is that it is to hard for a lot of vets to adapt into the civilian world.
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 02/09/2008, -4/+4There's nothing wrong with a military career.
- Sp1k3, on 02/09/2008, -8/+25Thank you Captain Obvious, it's not news that Billo is worse than that scum that builds up around 7-Eleven urinals. If I could see live coverage of any TV personality getting hit by a bus, I would choose him.
- DarkSamus, on 02/09/2008, -2/+2let's put that bastard in saw 5, but this time it's all real and he doesn't know
- chadillak, on 02/09/2008, -11/+15I've never heard of this O'Reilly guy, but I already don't like him all that much.
- purzzzell, on 02/09/2008, -0/+5I'm guessing you don't live in the US - but he's a national radio/television right wing douche...he's probably one of the worst 3 (Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly)
- derekknight, on 02/09/2008, -10/+4no *****
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- boonesfarm, on 02/09/2008, -58/+4Me to homeless guy. "You're irrelevant. We are patronizing you just by listening. You are an epic failure."
- Mikhail101, on 02/09/2008, -2/+20***** you ***** elitist mentality douche bag.
- boonesfarm, on 02/09/2008, -14/+1In the US, the government does a great job of taking care of those who can't take care of themselves. I was prepared to hear from a veteran with some degree of sickness. "Sick" is not always obvious, but I don't feel the slightest regret for questioning the footage here. In the most sober terms, this veteran expressed his displeasure with O'Reily. That's fine - he earns many critics. This was a hitpiece on Fox. "Foxattacks". In the most lucid of terms he criticizes O'Reilly, but he somehow can't find help or a shelter... if he is sick. Does he live on the moon? Call me an elitist if I pick on people who can't form sentences or care for themselves. This man is a malcontent, and this video does a disservice to people who help the sick.
- boombye, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1Wish I could meet people like you in real life.
- boonesfarm, on 02/09/2008, -14/+1In the US, the government does a great job of taking care of those who can't take care of themselves. I was prepared to hear from a veteran with some degree of sickness. "Sick" is not always obvious, but I don't feel the slightest regret for questioning the footage here. In the most sober terms, this veteran expressed his displeasure with O'Reily. That's fine - he earns many critics. This was a hitpiece on Fox. "Foxattacks". In the most lucid of terms he criticizes O'Reilly, but he somehow can't find help or a shelter... if he is sick. Does he live on the moon? Call me an elitist if I pick on people who can't form sentences or care for themselves. This man is a malcontent, and this video does a disservice to people who help the sick.
- BinkyStuttocks, on 02/09/2008, -1/+14Only if you said this under your breath and without any eye contact would this exchange realistically take place
- boonesfarm, on 02/09/2008, -11/+1eye contact... like what the camera man gave him? "Thanks for the interview, good luck with your sickness. Later, dude." What do you think the odds are that this guy is sleeping under a bridge tonight? I don't feel bad for doubting the authenticity here. If this guy were a tenant in a slum run by Obama's buddy, Digg would be all over that *****.
- Mikhail101, on 02/09/2008, -2/+20***** you ***** elitist mentality douche bag.
- Sarevok9, on 02/09/2008, -8/+54I wish I could meet Bill O. someday.... I'd greet him with a punch to the chest, and bid him farewell with a kick to the teeth.
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 02/09/2008, -15/+2You realize it's an act, right?
Bill O'Reilly is on the same level as Stephen Colbert. The only difference is, Colbert makes it clear that it's a joke. Bill pretends he's serious.- drachasor, on 02/09/2008, -0/+17I think you mean:
"Colbert makes it clear that it's a joke, and Bill doesn't realize he's a joke. - nedzeve, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1I used to think that was true, but I hear he's been an abusive ***** off camera too (see how he treated Jeremy Glick). No doubt his angry rants draw an audience to whom he can sell commercials.
- drachasor, on 02/09/2008, -0/+17I think you mean:
- jc801, on 02/09/2008, -0/+3Bravo! I would applaud you if I could watch that happen, and then I'd join in.
- naterpoke, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1lol keep role playing there baal spawn
- Andyl194, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1And that is why you will never meet him.
- trailboss49, on 02/10/2008, -1/+0Typical comment of a liberal. Hate the troops that protect us but beat up a conservative reporter.
- xiuquan6, on 02/11/2008, -0/+0Nice flamebait.... both of you.
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 02/09/2008, -15/+2You realize it's an act, right?
- bpacana, on 02/09/2008, -25/+2i don't see why they can't move back in with their parents for a while until they get back on their feet (they will understand). if they have no parents... uncles, aunts, grandma and grandpa, best bud, girlfriend... If you've exhausted all those resources, then I guess you're ***** outta luck son! Go to a homless shelter.
- kaytrio, on 02/09/2008, -12/+7Anyone got Oreilly's email add? i got a link i wanna send him... i suggest u join me.
- FatLoser, on 02/09/2008, -0/+4ORLY?
- DeFex, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2send him your swap file.
- dildoolielly, on 02/09/2008, -10/+16Isn't Bill O'lielly the guy who likes to shove things up his @ss while promoting "Children's" books?!
its very difficult to take this guy seriously.
I mean, who is the one who got caught rodgering himself in the butt with a dildo? Whenever I see this guy now an image appears of O'Reilly with his legs kicked up over his head pounding his keester with a "Mandingo Model 12"
I don't even remember what he said before I turned the channel.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackri ...- phazon88, on 02/09/2008, -1/+1Link doesn't work, but really?
- odigity, on 02/09/2008, -1/+2I don't care what Bill does in the privacy of his own home... unless he rants about others doing the same on national TV. He's a propaganda mouthpiece for the elites. I thought this was obvious to everyone. He's the kind of guy symbolized to by the talking head character in V for Vendetta.
- dan222555, on 02/09/2008, -2/+1Very mature. I'm gonna say 15.
- dildoolielly, on 02/09/2008, -1/+1So you are someone who gets their news and opinions from a whacked out dildo using pervert and his screeching she-male cohort on FOX?
Well then, keep telling yourself your own version of history, Corky. Because why would you want the truth? You can't handle the truth. Obviously.- dan222555, on 02/10/2008, -1/+1One day you'll grow up....
- dildoolielly, on 02/09/2008, -1/+1So you are someone who gets their news and opinions from a whacked out dildo using pervert and his screeching she-male cohort on FOX?
- bpacana, on 02/09/2008, -22/+1Yo I hear working for a private contractor can pay up to ten times as much and they will always hire someone fresh out of the military... that's always an option there buddy... use yer noggin! Sleeping under a bridge... my GOD!
- consonance, on 02/09/2008, -1/+11Gosh, if everyone was as smart as you, all our problems would be solved! It's obvious from watching this 3 minute video that you understand his situation perfectly. He's probably been offered a $300,000/year salary by at least 10 companies, and he has an active desire to work in the security industry. The only thing he could possibly want is to enter that field again! Addressing your earlier comment, yeah, I agree, he probably has rich parents living the good life in Massachusetts along the coast somewhere, and his family could easily support him. His state of mind, the facts you are so obviously aware of, and his dignity be damned, he should do exactly as you say!
- bpacana, on 02/09/2008, -3/+2ok you've just shown me the light... let me be the first to digg you.
- consonance, on 02/09/2008, -1/+11Gosh, if everyone was as smart as you, all our problems would be solved! It's obvious from watching this 3 minute video that you understand his situation perfectly. He's probably been offered a $300,000/year salary by at least 10 companies, and he has an active desire to work in the security industry. The only thing he could possibly want is to enter that field again! Addressing your earlier comment, yeah, I agree, he probably has rich parents living the good life in Massachusetts along the coast somewhere, and his family could easily support him. His state of mind, the facts you are so obviously aware of, and his dignity be damned, he should do exactly as you say!
- W00DR0W, on 02/09/2008, -17/+4So does a navy-man's "tour" in Iraq include armed-combat? Or do you do bombing runs or something?
- dildoolielly, on 02/09/2008, -6/+1Actually I think you only need to buy a yellow ribbon sticker made in China, theeese days
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 02/09/2008, -2/+6What does it matter if it includes armed-combat?
How does that have any effect on the point of this video?- dglass81, on 02/09/2008, -2/+0Yes, because half the time people that end up homeless are pretty much mentally challenged anyway, hence not getting proper jobs and joining the military.
- solid12345, on 02/09/2008, -1/+1How can you claim to have seen horrible things in war if you sat on a boat all day? It is like the Europeons who take a cruise to Cuba and never leave the beaches or the boat and say what a paradise Castro has made, what do they really know about the situation?
- Coffeedemon, on 02/09/2008, -2/+1You're not a real soldier man unless you're stomping babies in their cribs with your bare feet. Yeeehaw.
- W00DR0W, on 02/10/2008, -0/+1I'm just curious as to what has this guy so messed up, I mean what kind of news piece is it where they don't even tell you the guy's story?
- joshuacollins, on 02/09/2008, -23/+5Props to all those serving in the military, too bad some of them dont have the discipline to get a friggin job and support themselves when they get out. Wheres the actual evidence this guy is really in the military and not some ghey propaganda????
- Knucklecallus, on 02/09/2008, -3/+9I hate you and you represent everything that I dislike about this country.
- dildoolielly, on 02/09/2008, -1/+16You haven't heard yet? The best way to improve military morale is to praise them in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
- Mikhail101, on 02/09/2008, -5/+10You know what fat bastards like you O Reilly get paid excess money to bitch prejudice against other people with no proof whatsoever backing it up. It should be Bill on the street, this guy defended our country risking his on life.
- dglass81, on 02/09/2008, -4/+0Unfortunately for you, Bill Oreilly is smarter than the marine.
- le0pardess, on 02/10/2008, -0/+0disgustingly shameful
- dglass81, on 02/09/2008, -4/+0Unfortunately for you, Bill Oreilly is smarter than the marine.
- Pake, on 02/09/2008, -11/+6So... I wonder how many rounds of beer and lap dances this guy got from his pay while serving, when he should of been saving most of it. He didn't have to pay for his food, his housing, or anything else while in the service, so what the ***** did he blow all the money on? Outside of psychological trauma that causes issues, there aren't too many excuses that fly for being homeless after leaving the service.
- dildoolielly, on 02/09/2008, -3/+5I've always said the quickest way to turn a con into a liberal is have the policies they so blindly support affect them personally!
- Pake, on 02/09/2008, -4/+2What? Not entirely sure what you are saying, but I'm an independent. I'm just wondering how you can go from having all your essentials paid for and getting paid on top of that, to being homeless. It's simply impossible unless they didn't plan for their future after the service, they never got paid, or they had all their savings wiped out. I'm betting the former is the truth for the majority of them.
- gegroff, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2Most of the time service members are lead to believe that because of their experience, it would be easy to get a job when you fulfill your obligation. The Navy was my first job. It wasn't that hard to get into it, no resumes, no interviews, nothing. When I got out, it was hard to get into a new job because I had no experience in applying for employment. I ended up alright, but I realize how hard it might be for some. I stated in an earlier response that the military does not make that much money (in fact I knew quite a few people that were eligible and collected welfare to put food on the table). If you couple that with the false belief that there will be a crowd of companies waiting for the day you get out so you can work for them, you can maybe get a better understanding as to the possibilities on why this guy became homeless.
- dglass81, on 02/09/2008, -3/+0Well learn to ***** DEAL WITH REAL LIFE LIKE THE REST OF SOCIETY! NEWFLASH to people serving in the military: the REAL WORLD is harder than your free college education, meals and housing.
- Pake, on 02/09/2008, -4/+2What? Not entirely sure what you are saying, but I'm an independent. I'm just wondering how you can go from having all your essentials paid for and getting paid on top of that, to being homeless. It's simply impossible unless they didn't plan for their future after the service, they never got paid, or they had all their savings wiped out. I'm betting the former is the truth for the majority of them.
- gegroff, on 02/09/2008, -3/+3You have obviously never eaten the food they serve in the Navy. Believe it or not, people in the military do not make that much money. They make ~$1500 per month with an extra ~$600 if they are married and have children (which also means no free housing or food). So seeing that this guy was single he made roughly $1500/month. When at sea (on average 7-9 months out of the year), they work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you do the math, that is far less than federal minimum wage. When they do pull into port, if they want to do anything like go on a tour of the location or eat food that is better than just edible, or buy souvenirs it would cost some of that less-than-minimum-wage money. When you also take into consideration that these people probably still have some bills (i.e. car & insurance payments, cell phone payments, etc...) That doesn't leave them with a large wealth of money.
- dglass81, on 02/09/2008, -4/+2*****. My friend was a marine, came home and has a brand new Tacoma, college paid for, and gets compensation of $2000 a month as long as he is in college.
- dildoolielly, on 02/09/2008, -3/+5I've always said the quickest way to turn a con into a liberal is have the policies they so blindly support affect them personally!
- ih8apple, on 02/09/2008, -5/+14Thank you for your service, Ryan Sussman. God bless you.
- FatLoser, on 02/09/2008, -1/+3RAmen. What, not appropriate? Oh, it's okay to talk about God in these situations? My bad, so hard to figure out the hypocrisies of digg.
- sougly, on 02/10/2008, -0/+1God bless me, too.
- dildoolielly, on 02/09/2008, -4/+27The wealthy have never yet sacrificed themselves upon the altar of patriotism.
- dglass81, on 02/09/2008, -16/+0*****. They're the ones FUNDING the wars. They're the ones creating the jobs that employ the bottom dwellers.
- amoirae, on 02/09/2008, -0/+7No, they use and embezzle tax dollars, not their own money.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 02/09/2008, -0/+9The Chinese are funding the war by buying U.S. government securities...
- DarkSamus, on 02/09/2008, -0/+5you mean robbing the bottom dwellers
- haterofps3, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1Thats cause they have to much money to live for!
- trailboss49, on 02/10/2008, -0/+0Obviously you do not bother to actually study USA history. The signers of the Declaration of Independence were for the most part considered wealthy during that time. Most suffered family tragedies and huge economic losses to the English.
- dglass81, on 02/09/2008, -16/+0*****. They're the ones FUNDING the wars. They're the ones creating the jobs that employ the bottom dwellers.
- jamesgott, on 02/09/2008, -19/+5wow. maybe he can pawn his cashmere sweater and rent an apartment. homeless my ass. seriously, wtf, that guy has a nicer watch than me.
if you want to document the truth in a situation, at least get an actor that can represent the view you are trying to portray. - Subpoena, on 02/09/2008, -3/+10Bill O'Coulter
- bonds, on 02/09/2008, -7/+12The world to Bill O'Reilly: "***** you, you gigantic douche."
- DaDrake, on 02/09/2008, -19/+9Still don't get why this is suck a big deal. If you listen to the original broadcast, his comments were directed at Edwards. Bill O'Reilly also reiterated that everything should be done to help homeless vets to the VA guy. O'Reilly beef was with Edwards, who clearly stated (numerous times) that people are homeless (like our vets) because of the economy. As we all know, drug abuse & mental problems (undoubtedly caused by war) are the main reason for homeless vets.
Saying Bill O'Reilly hates the homeless is really taking this out of context.
While I don't like O'Reilly, what Edwards was doing was distasteful. The man literally try to tie all social-ills to the economy. By exploiting this problem, he has actually taken attention away from the real cause of homelessness. As long as people think its the economy, not one single homeless person would get help for drug/mental problems. We need to raise awareness.... and be honest about the issue. The last thing we need is some politician making ***** up for political gain.
Then again, I am sure diggers don't see it from my perspective. While I have a strong urge to help homeless people get off the street (especially since most of society think they are trash)..... most diggers just have a strong urge to beat on Bill O'Reilly. While many diggers will take the moral high ground to attack O'Reilly, I doubt any would spend 10 minutes to actually try to solve the problem. These digg articles just show that nobody.... NOBODY.... cares about homeless vets (all they care about is attacking Bill).
Really pathetic.- wingo123, on 02/09/2008, -7/+4"Still don't get why this is suck a big deal."
That's what SHE said!
*rimshot*
- wingo123, on 02/09/2008, -7/+4"Still don't get why this is suck a big deal."
- phenry50BMG, on 02/09/2008, -4/+14Bill is always talking *****. He touts himself as a "big" boy at 6'3" (or something like that). Let Mr. Tough Guy meet a REAL person who has been through the meat grinder and has come home. They won't have the palace Bill lives in but I'd bet they'd be happy to provide Bill with a new breathing hole...although it wouldn't last long and we'd finally be rid of that arrogant prick.
- jamesgott, on 02/09/2008, -12/+2i can't believe you morons are burying my comment. seriously, this video is outrageous on both sides of the spectrum.
1. yes, bill oreilly is a complete ***** and shouldnt be on the air
2. sorry, moron, but that guy in the video is NOT homeless. if he is, he should get his priorities straightened out.- usingpond, on 02/09/2008, -0/+7Maybe if you watched the ***** video you'd notice he used the past tense. Also, being homeless =/= looking disgusting.
- admiral202, on 02/09/2008, -12/+18Unfortunately, Bill is actually mostly correct on this one, though his delivery is pretty sour as usual. Having served in the Navy as many of the other readers in this forum, I'd want to know why he was only in for 2-1/2 years?? Was he kicked out for drugs, or left for hardship? What kind of discharge did he receive? Being on a surface ship is a cakewalk compared to sub duty, so I'm left scratching my head on this one. He's referring to TAPS - Transactional Assistance Program. The strange thing is, the military does offer quite a bit of help, and the VA has a ton of people and offices that can help, even though many will argue their effectiveness. When you get out, you can apply for unemployment for six months and then ask for an extension if needed - this will cover enough money for rent and food in a small apartment somewhere.
This guy was talking about seeing people killed and stuff, but if he was on a ship, he didn't see much, if any of that.
Anyone with more info?- DaDrake, on 02/09/2008, -4/+15The big problem with homeless vets is they desire to not get help. Many people (especially people who once played the role of "protector" and "leader") do not want to appear weak, needy, and "pathetic". Because of this.... many homeless vets simply refuse help because of their pride.
So its a difficult situation and its important that society doesn't "attack" them or make them feel shameful for being homeless. - Malevolant, on 02/09/2008, -11/+4You can always count on diggers to bury the truth from people who can back it up with facts. Diggers would rather attack someone they have a personal vendetta with rather than have a constructive conversation about the real problem and how to fix it. Yes, bury the people in the know, the facts, ignore the real issues, and just use it as an excuse to insult Bill O'Reilly. Diggers really contribute to solutions and get ***** done......
- wastedfluid, on 02/09/2008, -4/+6LOL. Serving on a surface ship is easy? You are crazy, my friend. What the hell ever. You obviously have no idea what the hell you're talking about.. because you're talking out of your ass. I spent three years on the CVN-65 as an ABE.. and it was pure hell.. There was nothing easy about working 3 days in a row.. or when you're SUPPOSED to be sleeping, cleaning toliets and *****.. I don't even want to hear it. Sounds like you had a cake walk in the Military.. not EVERYBODY goes that route. Show teh guy some respect. I got out after 3 years for being Color Deficient... am I a bad guy? Or how about the guys who ASK to be let go? And TAPS is a joke, my friend. You know this, and so do I.
- NEWNHLISLAME, on 02/09/2008, -1/+2being from Canada I have heard similar stories from from friends that served in Afghanistan, one example is a soldier who comes home with severe metal trauma after killing people. Now returning to normal society he will not leave his house, he doesn't sleep and now contemplates suicide. Thankfully his parents have a place for him to sleep. I fear if they were not there to help him he would be homeless or dead. Our Canadian Military doesn't help our Vets either when they need a place to be "readjusted" into society .This problem will not go away
- DaDrake, on 02/09/2008, -4/+15The big problem with homeless vets is they desire to not get help. Many people (especially people who once played the role of "protector" and "leader") do not want to appear weak, needy, and "pathetic". Because of this.... many homeless vets simply refuse help because of their pride.
- Antibland, on 02/09/2008, -5/+5Let's get those homeless vets underneath the warmest, fattest fold on TV--that dangling slab of blubber O'Reilly calls a neck. Honestly, my heart was in the right place when I started this comment.
- FatLoser, on 02/09/2008, -2/+1Huh? You don't sound very pro-Vet, you son of a bitch. If you really wanted to help them you would let them live under one Rosie O'Donnel's massive slabs of fat and nachos.
- DaDrake, on 02/09/2008, -4/+8What many people don't realize is PTST is worst with modern wars (like the Iraq war). This has nothing to do with the "moral" issue of going to war with Iraq. The simple fact is medical technology is allowing the more and more soldiers live through trauma. If you loose a body part, your sight, your hearing (incredibly common), etc... you will not come back normal. You will spend years trying to cope with your disability and life. Such trauma undoubtedly makes the transaction from soldier life to civilian life very difficult. In many cases, these soldiers often wish they were left to die on the battlefield (think about it.... instead of being a patriotic servant to your country.... you are now a financial burden on your family).
Furthermore, being sent back to Iraq (which many didn't anticipate) creates further trauma. Nothing like waiting months for a certain date to come (day you go back home) to have it delay further. When this happens, it really ***** with the head and creates trauma. In many instances, the date they go back is a coping mechanism and when they loose it, they break down.- pintomp3, on 02/09/2008, -4/+4"This has nothing to do with the "moral" issue of going to war with Iraq." many of these soldiers wouldn't have to be in a situation to get PTSD if we hadn't gone to work with iraq. if you are going to put our soldier's in harms way, you better have a damn good reason. we didn't.
- DaDrake, on 02/09/2008, -3/+4pintomp3, good job at taking my comment out of context.
Obviously you have these issues with war; if you didn't go to war, they wouldn't exist. Thanks for pointing out the painfully obvious.
My point is simple. Soldiers don't have these problems because of "internal moral conflicts" with what their government order them to do. The reason why these numbers are increasing is because more soldiers are living through the trauma. In other words, medical technology is making the severity of this problem worst and more attention needs to be given to this issue. - dglass81, on 02/09/2008, -3/+1I doubt it. I think most of the people that signup for the military have mental issues to begin with and war only perpuates it. I've had more than 10 friends come back from the FIRST WAVE going into Baghdad, and served two campaigns. Most are married, traveling, in other jobs, and successful men that are totally mentally stable. People just need to take responsiblity and try not to blame their actions on everyone else or circumstances around them. Hell, how many holocaust survivors do you see that are committing suicide and not just thankful for life?
- trailboss49, on 02/10/2008, -0/+1You are the one with mental problems. Why don't you stand at the airport and spit on our returning troops? You don't even deserve to be a USA citizen.
- oswell, on 02/09/2008, -1/+0LOSE LOSE LOSE. Look one more time. LOSE. People will not take you seriously if you repeatedly make these kinds of mistakes.
- Vodka2389, on 02/09/2008, -15/+10Not that I defend Billo, but Sussman has no excuse for being homeless (unless he wants to be). May be he got screwed by the army but there is still plenty of opportunity for an able-bodied 21 year old to get by and at least get a home.
- Entropy1023, on 02/09/2008, -3/+9Are you an idiot? You sound like one. Worse yet, you sound like a right-wing pundit. "Homeless and unemployed people are only that way because they choose to be" is arrogant and ignorant.
I'd like to know your demographic. Have you ever been to war? Have you ever dealt with an addiction or disability or mental illness? Have you ever had to survive without the help of family or friends? Not likely.
Now go back to reading Ayn Rand and cutting yourself, and quit posting your garbage on Digg.- sd2001, on 02/09/2008, -5/+3You're the one that sounds like an idiot. Since you're throwing out criteria that someone must match to give their opinion, I'll go ahead and answer your questions:
Yes, I've been to war. Have YOU?
I have no addiction, but I'm smart enough not to.
No mental illness. Maybe I'm lucky?
Survive without the help of family and friends? Yes, ever since I was 17 - the age I joined the military (I'm 29 now).
Vodka2389 is completely right - there is NO reason for an able-bodied 21 year-old to live under a bridge. If this guy looked hard enough (not that it's THAT hard) he could easily find a job that relates to his NEC (look it up). Even if he couldn't find a job in that field, he can certainly find temporary employment where he can utilize the basic seamanship skills he learned in the Navy. Worst case scenario, he could stock groceries for $8 an hour until he found something better.
There's ALWAYS a way for someone that puts their mind to it. This guy got kicked out for something stupid and is now looking for a handout. Even worse, he's pandering to the far left and is nothing more than a pawn.
Idiot.- Entropy1023, on 02/09/2008, -1/+0Well, there is one thing you, Vodka2389 and I all agree on-- there is no reason for an able-bodied (and able-minded) 21 year-old to be homeless, unless he wants to be. But do any of us know if he is able-bodied and able-minded? All we have is a few-minute interview by which to "judge" him. Maybe he is a slacker trying to get a handout. But then again, maybe he isn't.
My point is this: blanket statements are dangerous. Looking back, that is what pissed me off about the original comment. As my grandfather would say - "you'd better walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them".
I would just implore people to think a little bit more before they post their beliefs as doctrine.
On a side note: addiction has little to do with intelligence; I have met addicts smarter than you and I combined...
- Entropy1023, on 02/09/2008, -1/+0Well, there is one thing you, Vodka2389 and I all agree on-- there is no reason for an able-bodied (and able-minded) 21 year-old to be homeless, unless he wants to be. But do any of us know if he is able-bodied and able-minded? All we have is a few-minute interview by which to "judge" him. Maybe he is a slacker trying to get a handout. But then again, maybe he isn't.
- sd2001, on 02/09/2008, -5/+3You're the one that sounds like an idiot. Since you're throwing out criteria that someone must match to give their opinion, I'll go ahead and answer your questions:
- sd2001, on 02/09/2008, -5/+4You're the one that sounds like an idiot. Since you're throwing out criteria that someone must match to give their opinion, I'll go ahead and answer your questions:
Yes, I've been to war. Have YOU?
I have no addiction, but I'm smart enough not to.
No mental illness. Maybe I'm lucky?
Survive without the help of family and friends? Yes, ever since I was 17 - the age I joined the military (I'm 29 now).
Vodka2389 is completely right - there is NO reason for an able-bodied 21 year-old to live under a bridge. If this guy looked hard enough (not that it's THAT hard) he could easily find a job that relates to his NEC (look it up). Even if he couldn't find a job in that field, he can certainly find temporary employment where he can utilize the basic seamanship skills he learned in the Navy. Worst case scenario, he could stock groceries for $8 an hour until he found something better.
There's ALWAYS a way for someone that puts their mind to it. This guy got kicked out for something stupid and is now looking for a handout. Even worse, he's pandering to the far left and is nothing more than a pawn.
Idiot. - NEWNHLISLAME, on 02/09/2008, -2/+1your a ***** idiot
- Entropy1023, on 02/09/2008, -3/+9Are you an idiot? You sound like one. Worse yet, you sound like a right-wing pundit. "Homeless and unemployed people are only that way because they choose to be" is arrogant and ignorant.
- hfxadv, on 02/09/2008, -7/+6***** YOU BILL!!! -FTW
- camarokidaj, on 02/09/2008, -4/+8Bill is not worth wasting brain cells on !! He will say anything if he thinks it will get him attention.
- ryanhayn, on 02/09/2008, -5/+2Factor: a business agent; a merchant buying and selling on commission.
• a company that buys a manufacturer's invoices at a discount and takes responsibility for collecting the payments due on them.
• archaic an agent, deputy, or representative.
***** an O'Reilly Factor! - vern23, on 02/09/2008, -8/+11That's a pretty nice watch, sweater, haircut and earring for a homeless guy. Only 2.5 years in?? Why did he get out early? Why didn't he take advantage of the TAPS program? Something just isn't right.
- solid12345, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1Shhh don't let facts get in the way of liberal propaganda!
- wingo123, on 02/09/2008, -4/+8Jeez, man. Don't be so hard on Bill. Maybe the man just hasn't gotten his falafel yet today.
- BlaenkDenum, on 02/09/2008, -4/+8Whenever I see Bill O'Reilly he reminds me of Lewis Prothero from V for Vendetta, in fact, an excerpt from the wiki page of that movie:
"Roger Allam as Lewis Prothero: Lewis Prothero, "The Voice of London", is a mouthpiece for the Norsefire government. He was the former Commander of the Larkhill facility. He presented a show on the BTN. He was killed by V. He has been viewed as a parody of American right-wing pundits such as Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh by critics and commentators."
Guess I'm not the only one. Great movie by the way. - SemiSarcastic, on 02/09/2008, -3/+5Bill better hope no special ops guys don't get shafted like that. Or he might find some of his furniture missing the next morning.
- Frostman3D, on 02/09/2008, -6/+1I bet he'll be on the O'Reilly Factor within the next month.
- dan222555, on 02/09/2008, -2/+2He's probably already been invited and declined, knowing the full story would come out and he would be exposed for what he really is.
- Swarms, on 02/09/2008, -4/+8Blind hatred is just as ridiculous as blind support. Did anyone actually hear Bill's comments? "Meet the “Non-Existent” Vets" - He never said that homeless vets were non-existent. His point, to Edwards, was that they aren't homeless because of the economy, but because of substance abuse or mental problems, both of which can be treated at government facilities. He admitted we need to do more for the vets, he admitted that it's sad what they go through. His point was that Edwards was lying about the situation, using the vets as pawns. This is not support for Bill, but c'mon people, think for yourselves.
- Malevolant, on 02/09/2008, -7/+4They all know this, but chose to ignore it because they'd rather insult O'Reilly than solve the issue at hand.
If you take everything and put it into proper context then what O'Reilly is saying will do them more good than harm. Edwards was talking ***** and that ***** equates to their problems not being covered. O'Reilly was stating two reasons for the homelessness that would be covered so how he is ***** our soldiers? Stop being so ***** blind with hate and look at all of the facts before you just go off on people. I realize you all hate him, and I'm no fan, but he's not the bad guy in this story. I know, you don;t care, so go back to insulting him and burying me.... - dglass81, on 02/09/2008, -6/+4Damn right guys. Totally agree with you. I saw those particular episodes of The Factor and he was right on the money. Edwards is a complete loser.
- dan222555, on 02/09/2008, -1/+3The diggers can't be burdened with facts when there are personal attacks to be carried out against anyone they disagree with.
- Malevolant, on 02/09/2008, -7/+4They all know this, but chose to ignore it because they'd rather insult O'Reilly than solve the issue at hand.
- eviscero, on 02/09/2008, -7/+4Someone please call the waaaambulance.
- amoirae, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1Sure. We'll call them to take you away, ha ha..
- kastlip88, on 02/09/2008, -2/+10Bill O'Reilly is truly a disgusting human being.
- balilanai, on 02/09/2008, -1/+1You are right except for the "human" part.
- trailboss49, on 02/10/2008, -1/+0You liberals just can't stand it because more people are conservative and listen to commentators that are believeable and reflect the truth.
- ironman2188, on 02/09/2008, -5/+29i am not saying that i would ever do this, but here's something to think about:
we killed martin luther king
we killed jfk
we killed john lennon
but we let bill o'reilly live?
we need to get our priorities straight.- Kriegskamerad, on 02/09/2008, -2/+13If I could digg this more I would.
- Malevolant, on 02/09/2008, -2/+1Shows what a ***** ignorant fool you are
- booshack, on 02/09/2008, -2/+4"Breaking: Bill'O and Ann Coulter brutally murdered by mob of non-exsistant homeless veterans"
Oh man, that would be sweeeet. - FatLoser, on 02/09/2008, -3/+2So pretty much you ripped off Bill Hicks and are trying to take credit for it? Nice.
- nicksauce, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2Who is this 'we' you speak of? I certainly did not kill any of those people.
- Malevolant, on 02/09/2008, -1/+1Please reply with proof and not some utter ***** that you are some other delusional child came up with.
- trailboss49, on 02/10/2008, -1/+0Typical double standard liberal mindless blogging. "If you don't agree with me I'll kill you". Wonderful liberal theology that is. That's why socialism doesn't work, liberals are too egotistical to care about anyone other than themselves.
- xiuquan6, on 02/11/2008, -0/+0He's still alive because he pisses off reasonable people. Reasonable people don't kill just because they disagree with someone's speech. MLK and (probably) JFK, on the other hand, pissed off hyper-ideological radicals who were... unreasonable.
Also, while there may be hyper-ideological radical "liberals", their convictions tend to lead them away from the killing.
- Kriegskamerad, on 02/09/2008, -2/+13If I could digg this more I would.
- Acqua206, on 02/09/2008, -9/+18I hate Bill O'Reily as much as the next man but this Navy guy is probably a sack of *****. You really have to try to get kicked out of the Navy, and I guarantee you he did because there is no 2.5 year enlistment.
2nd, I would put money on the fact that this guy didn't kill a single person. He was stationed on a nuclear aircraft carrier. You have to be on crack to think that the navy would put a carrier in harms way. Strikes were most likely carried out by the carrier a good thousand miles away from land. The most this guy had to do with civilian deaths was probably prepping the jets for launch.
This guy killed no one. He didn't serve time in the sandbox. If he was traumatized by time served in a ***** aircraft carrier with air conditioned bunking, cable, and internet, he's got problems. I'm 99% certain that this guy is a dirtbag. It pisses me off that he dares to compare himself with the ground pounders. He's an aircraft carrier sailor. I can't stress that enough. I was a nuke submariner. Yeah, life sucked and we worked ***** hours but you can bet your ass I didn't get ptsd because the lines were long or because we ran out of milk 2 weeks into the deployment. For ***** sake, this guy is a little bitch.
I hate Bush, wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire, O'Reily too. I hate the war, I dislike the religious right but I'm not on this sailors side.- cran, on 02/09/2008, -1/+0There are 3-year (3 and 3) enlistments and early release. Early release is typically 6 months.
- galen, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2I was on the carrier that started the raids in iraq. noone i know from the ship has PTSD. It's just not going to happen. This guy is lame.
Is it true you guys are allowed to grow beards on subs?- Acqua206, on 02/09/2008, -0/+0Only on a 6 month deployment. However, we have to shave it off before we hit port.
- insomniac8400, on 02/09/2008, -6/+4I don't understand. If I get a job and work there for 2 and a half years, and then get fired, why should my previous employer be responsible if I choose to live under a bridge? Why do these assholes that automatically get free healthcare(unlike everyone else in america) think they deserve more?
- gabrielg01, on 02/09/2008, -2/+3Except your job description did not include "kill people on orders", and the risk of getting killed on a daily basis. You have no brain, that is why you don't understand.
- anywherebuthere, on 02/09/2008, -0/+2How many people "kill people on orders" in the middle of the ocean on and aircraft carrier? Think about it?
- gabrielg01, on 02/09/2008, -2/+3Except your job description did not include "kill people on orders", and the risk of getting killed on a daily basis. You have no brain, that is why you don't understand.
- caponumen, on 02/09/2008, -1/+6No, you have to be human in order to qualify as an *****.
Orealy is closer to leach...... - ZeRux, on 02/09/2008, -12/+2Who gives a ***** about what some homeless person said...expect digg users of course?
- CaviMike, on 02/09/2008, -0/+4Watch the video before you make a comment.
- SaperKain, on 02/09/2008, -7/+9Holy *****!!! The Bill O’Reilly defense force is in full strength on this thread. Nice job burying comments and making ***** up. I love comments that starts with “I don’t want to defend Bill O’Reilly but… “- or something like that. Take a hike you ***** assholes.
- dan222555, on 02/09/2008, -4/+3God forbid someone bring an opposing point of view into conversation on digg....
- Vodka2389, on 02/09/2008, -2/+1Hitler defended animal rights. Does that mean that animal rights is wrong just because Hitler was an *****?
- network, on 02/09/2008, -13/+4Yeah. Nice shirt buddy. Nice watch. Is this man sleeping under a bridge? He apparently did a tour in Iraq. God knows if he actually saw any combat, or fixed Hum V's the whole time. I agree with Oreilly. Let this man come on the factor and give us details about his "experiences" in Iraq. I'm sure after he's done we will be able to ascertain weather or not the military has "abandoned" him or "left him behind". Propaganda is in purest form. And badly done at that.
- notque, on 02/09/2008, -4/+3You're mentally ill.
- Vash3001, on 02/09/2008, -2/+11 is not 200,000
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