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Webcomics = Terrorism? Whaa?
dieselsweeties.com — Matt Boyd, writer of MacHall and Three Panel Soul loses job due to saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. Is this the climate of fear we're stuck living in?
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- snizgorp97, on 10/12/2007, -9/+90Komrades,
If you live in Amerika, you keep your mouth shut. When will you learn?- flippinjeremy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+72This country is falling apart. One person at a time.
Situations like this (a man getting fired for talking about something at the wrong place/time) don't help, and slowly but surely we will lose all of our freedoms. It may sound crazy to some people, but it WILL happen, I guarantee. - SavageBlackCat, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2Wordpress error - jesus, that's a shocker.
- MrSpontaneous, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Sorry for the comment spam, but here's the story direct from his blog:
http://matthewandian.livejournal.com/6951.html - Konrad9, on 10/12/2007, -26/+6What idiot thought up this title?
It has nothing to do with his webcomic. - pwill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18http://www.duggmirror.com/political_opinion/Webcomics_Terrorism_Whaa#c6494751
Also,
@konrad9
Yes it does...
Did you even read the article?
"To top it all off, he was later visited by police detectives for making a comic about his experience, because it was a 'borderline terroristic threat.'" - quaunaut, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@konrad9
Yes it does. Read the actual page, not the one someone else linked to. Says right there:
4 cops showed up to his house because the webcomic bordered on terroristic threat.
Edit: Darn you pwill. - doddilus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14edit: in response to MrSpontaneous' link since its apparently different from the original
so they immediately fired the guy who they suspected was going to shoot up the place?
yea thats the right choice... - shinkaide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19It's Ironic, innit?
Dick Cheney actually shot someone in the face and does other things that actually harm people (like, EVERYONE in America), and he still has his job. Matt's not gonna go postal on anyone, c'mon!
People need to stop having these knee-jerk reactions to everything - it really makes everyone look bad! - Konrad9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6My bad. The article linked to was down at the time, and I didn't see a mirror.
I didn't see any information about the police visiting him in the comic or blog. - gromnie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@MrSpontaneous: "Sorry for the comment spam"
AUUGHHH!!!!! It's NOT f-ing comment spam when you post a link that is completely ON F-ING TOPIC!!!!!!
[graphic of head exploding] - bennybertow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"If you live in Amerika, you keep your mouth shut. When will you learn?"
You will still get arrested for crimethink!
- flippinjeremy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+72This country is falling apart. One person at a time.
- throadgrommel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2This is why we need men like Toyama Koichi in government. The tyranny of the majority must end!
- ElcyionCoire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4None of this is about the "majority", it's all about Bush's terror-spinning propoganda. terrorists are supposed to be everywhere... it was only a matter of time before we not only feared an unkown enemy, but also feared our fellow americans.
This is a god damned shame. - throadgrommel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Who do you think buys into alarmism and sensationalism? The majority. The problem here is that everyone insists on sameness among the population. People who are different are targeted. It has everything to do with the majority.
- ElcyionCoire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4None of this is about the "majority", it's all about Bush's terror-spinning propoganda. terrorists are supposed to be everywhere... it was only a matter of time before we not only feared an unkown enemy, but also feared our fellow americans.
- rstevens3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I'm more a Mike Gravel or Bat-Man type, myself.
- rhelwig, on 10/12/2007, -23/+5Is it time for a Ron Paul Revolution yet?
- xTRUMANx, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31Enough with the Ron Paul plugs already.
As for you Mike Gravellers, I'm watching you.
points index and forefinger at eyes and then proceeds to point at Mike Gravellers - anonym41414, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19Your index finger is your forefinger, Einstein.
- xTRUMANx, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31Enough with the Ron Paul plugs already.
- ajcerqueti, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32More and more, when it comes to guns, terrorism and general violence, a common-sense, measured and reasonable response seems to be totally out of the question. I feel uncomfortable banding around words like Fascism, but there seems very little option when this seems to be standard procedure, treat everything as if it's a threat, and crush it with impunity. Whether it's over-zealous airport security staff, or the ridiculousness of Jack Thompson, more and more knee-jerk reactionaries seem to be finding voice and power, and striking against every day common sense. By artificially raising everyone's sense of insecurity by maintaining an elevated Threat Level, the US Government allows these idiots to feed on everyone's worst fears. Which is where they seem to want us. Scared, pacified and unable to argue. I, for one, have had enough of it.
"People should not fear their government, their government should fear the people." - V
Please Digg this, support Matt and maybe somehow we'll all find a voice to let them know enough is enough. - JuanNavarro, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Ah god.
I'm actually SCARED now.
I work for an airline, and even though I do comics of ***** talking DOGS with Machine Guns and chicks beating the ***** out of each other, I can only imagine the ridiculous ***** that might happen if they wanted to construe it another way.
*****.- MiDri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I feel you man, I work at tech support for the airport desks (I don't directly work for airlines, but am federally employed) I'm afraid they might dig something up from my past that I said in jest as a 14 year old or something and take it seriously.
- LopsidedZebra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29if you laugh then the terrorists have already won.
- zombiedepot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20I've heard of some bad reasons to be fired, but this takes the cake. Some people are too scared these days. I mean, you have a higher chance of dying in a car accident than getting blown up by terrorists, or shot.
Logically, you'd think firing a person you saw as a threat would probably make them even more of a danger. Good thing he wasn't a psychopath because I highly doubt job termination is going to stop a "terrorist". - swrostmore, on 10/12/2007, -17/+3I was going to make a crack about how webcomics are so universally terrible that they *should* be equated with terrorism, but this one is actually drawn well.
...but its still not funny...- flippinjeremy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7It's funny, you just don't understand it.
- ike368, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1deisle sweeties is pretty much the worst webcomic out there, in my honest opinion.
read achewood.
www.achewood.com
- MrBabyMan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19The forum link provided here should probably have pointed to this article:
http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/03/breaking-news-3/
The offending comic:
http://www.threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2007-04-24
His post firing response:
http://www.threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2007-04-30- classicalcomp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15The reply is priceless.
Thank god we don't have the ability to talk about important issues in a humoristic manner. *sarcasm
It's just humor people, or social satire. Why can't we talk about all issues in a variety of ways without others thinking that there is criminal intent behind it.
All us nappy headed hoes need to get a life and start to laugh again.
- classicalcomp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15The reply is priceless.
- jalvear, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1I prefer Modern Tales. Lots of variety. Lots of web comics. Lots of artists. Low cost.
http://www.moderntales.com - yeediddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I fear for Tycho and Gabe.
Will they come for Piro soon? We all know "warmth" is due to global warming.... - crazylax42, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7anyone who knows anything about guns would find that comic atleast worth a smile. Anything can be misused. All it takes is a psycho to make everyone think GUN=BAD. All that aside, I'm pretty sure the first amendment covers this guy too. Or are we being selectional with the Bill of wrights now? Is that another clause of the Patriot act that I missed?
- Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Okay, I agree that this guy being fired is complete *****. But you can't possibly bring the first amendment into this. He had a complaint against him for something he said, and his company let him go as a result. Where in that story does the government violate his right to free speech? The only thing the first amendment does is ensures that the government cannot restrict what you say. If he were arrested for saying this, fine, first amendment battle all the way. But he wasn't arrested. He was fired (or "let go") by his employer. You have the right to say what you want, but you also have to live with the consequences of that, because your employer has his own rights.
Note: That last sentence was NOT meant to convey that I think he should be fired for what he said. I'm just trying to show that this is in no way a first amendment issue. Other than that, I agree with you 100%, because I'm for the second amendment, and I think that it's complete ***** how much this country overreacts to certain things, and targeting the wrong people as the causes. - crazylax42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@netrilix--
I guess that's true, I brought up first amendment because to me the employer had no right to take such harsh action with something he said(write to speak whatever is on his mind=1st). To me, words should be matched with words first, actions later. But I see what you're saying too. Either way, bad situation all around. - Spanktacular, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@Netrillix
Isn't being fired from a government contract by the military commanders in charge of said project for what he said the government telling him he can't say those things? I mean, this wasn't a job at Innatech. It was a Navy contract. He was first let go from the project by the Navy... - Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dammit, I just wrote a long response and it got lost because I lost my connection. Anyways, here's essentially what I said:
Yes, it's true that he works for a government contractor. But in this case, they are simply an employer. They are not representing any legal authority, and they are not bringing him up on charges regarding a law that would violate the first amendment. He is being fired by an employer, he is not being arrested by a police officer or a federal agent. It's unfortunate that people are so weak that something like this happens, but it doesn't violate his legal rights in any way. The fact that the employer happens to be under direction of the government does not change the fact that they are an employer, and they can choose their employees based on whatever they want, outside of the common definition of discrimination. The Constitution does not cover what employers can do, even if those employers are government-based. If someone felt unsafe (which I hate the fact that they did, because I'm all for people being more open about guns), they unfortunately have the right to get rid of him, and in some states, they can fire him without even having a reason like that.
- Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Okay, I agree that this guy being fired is complete *****. But you can't possibly bring the first amendment into this. He had a complaint against him for something he said, and his company let him go as a result. Where in that story does the government violate his right to free speech? The only thing the first amendment does is ensures that the government cannot restrict what you say. If he were arrested for saying this, fine, first amendment battle all the way. But he wasn't arrested. He was fired (or "let go") by his employer. You have the right to say what you want, but you also have to live with the consequences of that, because your employer has his own rights.
- ESTEBEVERDE, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1F'n Puzzies
- canha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I think that americans are just over reacting with everything. You can't not even make an inocent joke and you already get linked with al-qaeda.
America used to be a good country, now it's just full of sh*t.
I'm not saying terrorists are right - killing inocent people is wrong, no matter what you motive is. But this whole "let's fight for peace" is just plain bull.- Spanktacular, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6George Carlin = Fighting for peace is like ***** for virginity.
Oh, and the country's always been ***** in one way or another. This is really just a new wave of a cross between Puritanism and McCarthyism. It really sucks, but we've been sucky in the past, too.
Don't forget the media hype that the VT shootings were the worst mass murder in U.S. history. That's just a flat-out lie.
- Spanktacular, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6George Carlin = Fighting for peace is like ***** for virginity.
- cpugeek2214, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5What ever happened to our First Amendment?
- Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3See my post a little ways up. There is NOTHING related to the first amendment in this entire story.
- tampersanda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@Netrilix
What about the part where the police showed up on his doorstep?
- motbob, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8He didn't get fired because of a webcomic. He got fired for talking about shooting someone in the face, and then he wrote a comic talking about why he was fired.
Again, the webcomic was written AFTER he was fired.- hplasm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7You just mentioned shooting someone in the face. You are fired!
O. So am I. See you in the Gulag. - kirealwi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Yes, the article makes it clear that he was fired after the webcomic was written. As well as the content of the webcomic itself. The title of the article comes from...
"To top it all off, he was later visited by police detectives for making a comic about his experience, because it was a “borderline terroristic threat.” " - Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7kirealwi: I'm pretty sure he drew the comic because he was fired, not the other way around. Before the whole thing went rapidly downhill, he didn't think the conversation was even worth mentioning. But then he was brought up before his bosses, fired, and then he drew the comic to show what happened. Then he was later visited by police, to end off the story. I guess they figured his comic was meant to show that he was going to go into his former office and start shooting.
- hplasm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7You just mentioned shooting someone in the face. You are fired!
- MrDandy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Let me get this straight... the cartoonist works with the Navy, presumably for a military contractor. And these same people he works with are suddenly squeamish about guns? WTF?? Ironic that they're likely the ones who build and distribute the biggest weapons, and are generally gun rights advocates. OK I'm generalizing, but it sounds like a paranoid mindset to me. As in, if you are thinking about ways to destroy enemies all the time, you are bound to see them everywhere. Why didn't somebody try something crazy, like say, TALKING to the guy? Instead, in this society we have been trained to run to the authorities over the slightest thing. Crybabies are the biggest terrorists.
- Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Well, it seems like he was working more in a desk job around more sensitive people. It's not like some guy wearing camo and carrying a rifle was the one doing the complaining. More likely Nina from Accounts Payable. (Office Space reference).
Other than that, I agree with you. They should have talked to him, instead of just running to authorities and blowing it out of proportion. - Spanktacular, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@Netrillix
Did you read any of the stories? He was a programmer. He was about as far from Nina in Office Space as a physicist is from a monkey.
Oh, and the systems on which they were working are designed to kill people. Rush Limbaugh has only ever said one thing I agree with. "The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things." - Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Spanktacular: Did you even look at the comic that HE drew? Did you notice the mentions of cubicles?
- Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dammit, missed the edit time, but here: http://www.threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2007-04-24
- Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Well, it seems like he was working more in a desk job around more sensitive people. It's not like some guy wearing camo and carrying a rifle was the one doing the complaining. More likely Nina from Accounts Payable. (Office Space reference).
- TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Cyanide & Happiness gets away with this stuff all of the time. Along with making fun of cancer, AIDS, Jews, Jesus, and fetuses.
Ahhh... - kirealwi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Netrilix: *****. Yeah, that's what I meant. Obviously I shouldn't comment when I'm sleep deprived. Bury me...
- dotlizard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12free speech isn't free. it costs you your job. or your teaching degree. or your eligibility to cross the border.
*****. - dragongoddess, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Look you need to watch yourself when you are around cube ies who have never been outside. I mean further then the backyard and a trip to the playground. People who grow up and live in cities cannot understand what happens in rural America. Even semi-rural. It's sad because if these people did actually get out from their cube they would find a whole world out there. Of course they would have to take a little responsibility for themselves but that is a whole other rant.
- krazyjosh5, on 10/12/2007, -8/+0As a Virginia Tech student, I do have to say that comic is insensitive as *****. The artist has garnered no support from me and I remain opposed to any publication of his comic (I'd go so far as to write letters and campaign against it). That aside, it is free speech and he has the right to say what he wants, he'll just have me writing letters against him getting any exposure further than own personal publication. To quote Voltaire: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- cyberjacques, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5So, which is it? Will you campaign against the publication of his "insensitive" comic, or will you defend his freedom of speech with your life?
I think this world needs a lot more "insensitive" people these days. This namby-pamby attitude is going to get us all killed. Get out of your comfort zone before someone removes you from it by force. - TheYellowMole, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@krazyjosh:
Don't you mean Evelyn Beatrice? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire#Miscellaneous - Luocorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm a little confused here, how is that comic insensitive to you? It has absolutely nothing to do with the Virginia Tech shootings, it's about how he wanted to buy a gun for target shooting and got fired for talking about it and making a joke about how safe the gun actually was. Are you saying that anyone who talks about guns and how a gun can kill is insensitive? Or is this reaction just leveled at him?
- arcnes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3How is his comic insensitive? It does not make light of the shootings. In fact he has since said he did not mean it as such. As a college student at George Mason, I feel sorry for the events that happened at VT. It is however not O.K. to come down on everyone else. I personally was harassed by campus police because of an over-reaction to the incident.
- popefugu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well, I found the comic to be nothing short of completely ***** hilarious.
This, of course, is coming from a guy whose immediate reaction to the shootings was, "looks like Littleton will need to step up their game."
- cyberjacques, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5So, which is it? Will you campaign against the publication of his "insensitive" comic, or will you defend his freedom of speech with your life?
- rstevens3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The comic didn't get him fired- the comic got him POLICE at his door, after he calmly accepted the firing. THAT'S a free speech issue.
- krazyjosh5, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0@cyberjacques
I WILL campaign against his insensitive comic but I will not campaign about his right to say it. He has every right to publish it, I just dont believe that any magazine or publication that I invest my money or readership should support him.
This isnt a 'namby-pamby' attitude either. That's easy for you to say. I live here. I walk by Norris everyday. I know the people who were killed. I know the 20-something year olds who were poised to making a difference in this world who were innocently murdered. For me to be sensitive to someone making a comic references to this event is far from 'namby-pamby'.- tacroy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3He didn't reference the event. It had nothing to do with the event, other than happening around the same time. He even mentions that he wants a .22 because it's only good for target shooting and wouldn't be able to hurt a human badly....
- lildaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Did you even read the comic, or did you just grab VT out of the myriad other sentences and ASSUME that it was about VT? Wow, you sound just like the same people who grabbed "guns" and "ammo" and "have to try to hurt someone" out of the conversation and went running for the Management hills to report him and who got him fired. I know we live in a 30-second society, but do us and everyone else a favor and READ THE WHOLE THING before you comment.
Personally, I'm tired of people like this who hear one thing, overreact, and screw up things for everyone else because they weren't paying attention to the whole thing. I'll bet that same day he was driving to school while listening to his iPod, shaving, and eating a McGriddle all at the same time.
I'm all for standing up for causes, but make sure you understand the cause you're standing up for before you get indignant.
- krazyjosh5, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4After being in contact with Matt, he had this to say:
'As in the comic, I didn't really know about the shootings when I was talking to my coworkers about getting a rifle. I didn't even know until today that he used a .22.'
It was a misunderstanding. - maeon3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4In a land of deception, telling or implying the truth is a crime.
- Illustrious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5My fellow Americans, we are giving pussies everywhere a bad name. We need to stop living in fear of "threats", start accepting that risk is a fact of life, and stop being so damned scared of each other (let alone the rest of the world.) We can't just have Big Brother haul away everyone who makes us nervous, not if we want to be the country that we grew up thinking we were.
- anescient, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4***** this.
***** this.
There I said it twice.
***** this. - curtlbc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3doubleunplusgood thoughtcrime
- M724, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3In my opinion, people are getting more and more sensitive in this world. They should grow a backbone and allow everybody to go their own way.
- lyrix191, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1@ Everyone on this digg... (and digg me down...you gotta read it to digg it down)
It is amazing how ignorant of the Bible and of Christianity you all can be.
First of all, there are two "compilations" of the Bible -
1. The Protestant Bible - which includes the 66 books of the Old and New Testaments.
2. The Roman Catholic Bible - which includes all of those books as well as the Apocrypha, which they officially do not hold on the same level of the rest of the Bible.
@ Pile
Slavery in biblical times was not the same as slavery in America. Slavery in biblical times was a form of indentured servitude, a way to work off debt. And the Bible never endorses slavery...it just states it as a fact of the time.
Murdering disrespectful children: This was Jewish Law which governed the Israelite peoples of the times. This is not an edict from God for all times.
Uncleanliness of women: Again, a legal issue of the time, not an edict.
Giving away everything you own: This was addressed to a particular person for a specific reason. The rich young ruler thought that he was fulfilling the Law. Jesus told him that he loved his money more than he loved God. It was given as a demonstration of faith. In no way, shape, or form does the Bible condemn money or prosperity. Remember, the LOVE of money is the root of all kinds of evil, not money itself.
@ codmate
Actually, there have been hundreds of archaeological digs that have verified the historicity and accuracy of the Bible...but there has NEVER been even ONE that has proved biblical error.
The Bible is a document written by men under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. A book that spans 4000 years of authorship about a single topic? You don't think that smacks of something a little more than man's work?
@ all
Define your view of evolution. Are you talking MICRO-evolution, which is obvious and undisputed, or are you talking MACRO-evolution, which is convoluted and on its last leg?
Some things to look at regarding evolution v. creationism:
- The fossil record - there are no records of transitory lifeforms. Why?
- Irreducible complexity - check out the bacterial flagellum
- The exponential odds that life was created out of previously existing materials. Miller's experiment was incorrect.
Evolution takes just as much faith as creationism does. Evolutionists have their sacred writings and their dogma.
Evolution is born out of Modernism. It has the presupposition that the supernatural is non-existent. With that presupposition, yeah, you can arrive at evolution. Without it...no chance.- MadMaxx426, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Not only did you go on a tie rant about some religious *****, you did it in the wrong ***** topic.
Niiiice. - bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The moron patrol?
- gwalla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not only is this comment attached to the wrong damn topic, but it's also clear you know less about Christianity than you think. You totally ignored the Eastern Orthodox bible, which isn't the same as the Protestant or Catholic ones.
Also, visit the talk.origins FAQ before making yourself look ignorant by claiming that "macroevolution" is "on its last legs".
- MadMaxx426, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Not only did you go on a tie rant about some religious *****, you did it in the wrong ***** topic.
- Lothar76, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Anyone have his employer's number so we can call en mass and let them know what a freaking whiny bunch of pussies they are?
- popefugu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This has all happened before and it will all happen again.
For those of us who lived through Columbine (over a television set from two time-zones away), this is nothing new. In 1999, almost immediately after the Littleton shooting, schools across the country enacted "zero-tolerance" policies, limiting the students' freedom of expression. Black clothing was "discouraged," particularly black coats, since the Littleton kids had dressed in all black and referred to themselves as the "trenchcoat mafia."- mrRB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The guy who runs "This is True" and the "Stella Awards" newsletters has repeatedly spoken out against zero tolerance. The bottom line is that it allows for no discretion on the part of the authorities, reducing them to robots and commanding severe reactions to even the most minor infractions.
http://mt.thisistrue.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=zt
/not blogspam
- mrRB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The guy who runs "This is True" and the "Stella Awards" newsletters has repeatedly spoken out against zero tolerance. The bottom line is that it allows for no discretion on the part of the authorities, reducing them to robots and commanding severe reactions to even the most minor infractions.
- popefugu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I realize the first amendment doesn't legally apply to his employment situation (semantics, of course). Organizations can generally fire whoever they want, whenever they want, provided there's no evidence of discrimination. Honestly, this response to his comments is to be expected. As long as there are a few stupid people who are going to complain, his superiors will be obligated to fire him before it goes over their heads and gets them in trouble for "fostering violent discussion" or something those lines. This is pretty much the ***** status quo these days.
- popefugu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh, wait, I'm just repeating what Netrillix already said here.
- cathbard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Don't let the bastards grind you down mate. This is an atrocious attack on free expression, you have my support for what it's worth.
- a fellow cartoonist
PS: can you bible bashers please just sod off? Preach your bs somewhere else. - panton41, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I was questioned and then eventually fired for talking about the details of a Tom Clancy book while working at the U.S. Census Bureau in Jeffersonville, Ind. And this was before 9/11.
- proclaimLiberty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think we will be seeing a lot more stuff like this happening: people being harassed by the government because someone complains of being scared.
American citizens are being considered potential terrorists by the government, even when they only practice non-offensive free speech, like this man did. - somechick73, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0flippinjeremy - I agree this country is falling apart. We see it more everyday. It's really sad that we're going against our fellow american's because they've brainwashed us into thinking everyone is a potential threat.
ajcerqueti - I think they're treating everything like a threat because they are paranoid ever since 9-11. They think everyones a ***** terrorist. When in fact, most people are just trying to get through life having a good time. I too have had enough of it. Seriously, he was being sarcastic. How hard is it to see that?
shinkaide - Dick Cheney should have gotten fired, not matt. If everyone keeps ***** with him he might. The things that make people snap are when people keep ***** with thier ***** IMO.
zombiedepot - I agree, you do have a better chance of getting in a car accident then getting shot by a terrorist. Sure there's terrorists out there. But I think this does 'take the cake.' I mean seriously, he's not a terrorist. I agree that firing a person you see as threat can actually MAKE them a threat. If you keep pushing peoples buttons saying ***** that's not true, 'labelling' they eventually become it. It's basic sociology.
dotlizard - Yes, it does cost you your job. This country is less and less free everyday it seems.
Illustrious - I blame those terrorist-fearing-nazi's for making terrorism worse than it's ever been. It's always been there hasn't it? But now they've struck fear into everyone. They might as well start telling us zombies are real. They couldn't possibly freak us out any more than they already have right?
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