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(comic) Calvin & Hobbes: "How Come We Play War and Not Peace?"
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- cornfednbred, on 10/12/2007, -51/+26Yeah I have almost the whole collection so I have to Digg it.
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -187/+50This cartoon is an amusing historical document. Look at the copyright date: 1986. In 1987, Ronald Reagan would make his famous "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall" speech at the Brandenburg Gate. In 1989, the Berlin Wall would fall. In 1991, the Soviet Union itself would collapse.
So, yes, this cartoon has some beautiful if naive sentiments made even more naive and quaint by the history that followed its publication. War is hell but it is a necessary evil. Tell the people who celebrated the fall of the Berlin Wall that it isn't important who wins and who loses. - lukeman, on 10/12/2007, -41/+2nvm
- Feanor, on 10/12/2007, -7/+101http://web.archive.org/web/20051026081601/http://www.webskinz.com/photoshop_intro/projects/comic/calvin_hobbes1.jpg
Sorry for the comment abuse. - EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -36/+4n/m
- Siroro, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17Mirror: http://www.images.canoop.com/gallery.php?entry=images/1171990447.jpg
- pweegar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+105RadiantBeing,
I was at the Berlin Wall the night before President Regan gave his speech. I guarded a small stretch of it (20-30' worth). I was an MP stationed in Berlin and left in Jan. of 89. What a strange time it was!!!! When I left, no one had any idea the end was so close. I was actually home sick seeing friends and places in and around Berlin on the news.
The worst part of the whole visit by Pres. Regan is that the german people didn't want him there. There was rioting in the streets the night before. Windows broken out of stores, cars set on fire, etc. The German gov't called in approx. 30,000 extra German Police to help. What a strange scene it was. But then again, Berlin was a strange place. - redfox2600, on 10/12/2007, -14/+7Hey anyone know what going on with duggmirror? This is the 10th site it didn't catch for me.
- maize, on 10/12/2007, -3/+222I miss Calvin and Hobbes :(
- boomboxer, on 10/12/2007, -13/+51@ radiantbeing
we never went to war with the USSR. the berlin wall fell without major conflict. yes, of course war is sometimes necessary, but obviously not in the cases you cite. on the contrary, those cases provide great examples of how positive results can be attained without resorting to war. examples that the current administration apparently did not learn enough from. even though the cartoon was published in 1986, it is completely relevant today. in the current war, just like in the cartoon, flimsy justification for war creates a a scenario in which victory cannot be truly attained, and the only real result is death on both sides. - Doorfingers, on 10/12/2007, -6/+52Wait, didn't Calvin get shot in the helmet? That makes him the winner!
- DurkaMcDurk, on 10/12/2007, -14/+8I actually have the book that this one came from.. all of the Calvin and Hobbes comics were classic...
- Sippi, on 10/12/2007, -13/+8BOOM headshot!
- danielrh9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32If you are interested in Calvin and Hobbes, here is a link to a full searchable database of every Calvin and Hobbes strip ever published by Bill Watterson:
http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Full_Searchable_Database_of_Every_Calvin_and_Hobbes_Strip_Ever_Published - texpundit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31"all of the Calvin and Hobbes comics were classic..."
Yeah...but the best strips were the ones with Calvin making psycho/suicidal/homicidal snowmen. The parents' reactions were priceless! - Chairmclee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"running around shooting at your friends with waterguns is FAR more interesting than sitting around a table and writing treaties, duh"
I guess you've never played Diplomacy then. (The board game I mean) - skelly6, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Man, I miss Calvin & Hobbes more than any other piece of my childhood...
- DoodleMaster, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Wow this comic strip was deep so suttle, but very impactful.
- storm8956, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19I was privileged to have grown up reading Calvin & Hobbes. Even after the age of 20 I still have the occasional desire to read them. Thank you, Bill Watterson, for writing the best comic ever. And if you don't know much about Bill Watterson, it is because he always tried to keep out of the spotlight. He never allowed the sale of any Calvin & Hobbes merchandise other than the comic. Stephen Spielberg even wanted to make a movie, but Watterson turned him down. The world needs more people like Watterson to nourish the minds of children, humble, concerned and honestly caring. He stopped writing the comic when he felt it was at its peak, and that has made it an eternal classic.
- Aldrenean, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Plus, everyone knows that the Berlin Wall fell because of David Hasselhoff and his song.
- smartass007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2mahatma ghandi defeated the british empire without resorting to violence whatsoever. he taught the lesson that people seem so eager to forget: that the power (and responsibility) is in our hands and we don't need big governments and military dominating our lives.
- TheWorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Part of the reason I've always loved Calvin and Hobbes is because of how deep and complex a charecter Calvin is. He's more intelligent than a lot of people. He understands things.
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -187/+50This cartoon is an amusing historical document. Look at the copyright date: 1986. In 1987, Ronald Reagan would make his famous "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall" speech at the Brandenburg Gate. In 1989, the Berlin Wall would fall. In 1991, the Soviet Union itself would collapse.
- jcervoni, on 10/12/2007, -10/+126How can anyone not love Calvin & Hobbes? They are always so cute, and timeless.
- wbreim, on 10/12/2007, -342/+9i don't love them. pretentious comments from the upper class of society not appreciatted by me. I want to hear social comentary from the under-previledged from the ones who don't have the luxury to read the sunday funnies and feel self-important and righteous by reading a comic strip and go on to get their lattes.
- flernk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+198Calvin and Hobbes as representatives of the ultra-rich and "the sunday funnies" referred to as a "luxury." That may be the oddest comment I've read all year. I'm baffled.
- h00paj00, on 10/12/2007, -12/+69wbreim wants to only read comics by unsuccessful artists that can't make it as a comic strip writer.
wbreim: Grow up. Get a life. The revolution is over. Che's dead. Get over it. - berwiki, on 10/12/2007, -2/+52@wbreim
umm.. check your local library, they will have copies of the sunday newspaper.
Even the most dilapidated and under-funded will have that 'luxury'. lol. - vhold, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Sunday newspapers pay for themselves with coupons. In my home town which was mostly lower-middle class almost every family had a Sunday morning coupon cutting and categorization ritual.
- uberlord, on 10/12/2007, -8/+57Calvin and Hobbes is the single greatest comic in existence. Yes, better than snoopy, better than Marmaduke, Calvin OWNS!
- ejectMedia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@wbreim
Last I checked the Sunday paper was under $1....and if you wait for it you can read them free at your library. How often do you see someone with their latte reading the sunday funnies? - boomboxer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35@ wbreim
the primary audience for calvin and hobbes was not latte-drinking snobs. it was children. I was one of those kids, and I must say that the comic was a positive influence. stop by a barnes and noble and flip through some of the old books. you'll see that calvin and hobbes is really just a story about growing up. - benijuana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25@wbreim
only on digg could a nostalgic viewing of a childhood staple be turned into bad socio-economic commentary by some pseudo-intellectual high schooler .
If you think the sunday paper is elitist, wouldn't the internet be worse by your standards? It costs more anyway. Plus you'll see more latte drinkers with a laptop than a newspaper these days anyway. Grow up. - captaineuphoria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23You'd have to be an idiot to believe Calvin and Hobbes was pretentious.
- aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Ok ok...but I can get Calvin FREE on the internet...and I don't think he is "upper class." He's a friggin KID man with a great imagination! Did you ever see his snowmen? He even uses free materials in his comics, like snow, and parents...etc...school.
So no your DEAD wrong. This isn't an upper class comic like Doonsberry is. This is for the masses...in Sunday paper form or electronic.
If you want underground look for
http://ohmygods.timerift.net/strips/2003/03/09.php - mhuggins, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1I never enjoyed Calvin and Hobbes myself. Also, this is not news in any way. Buried for being lame.
- alpinweiss88, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Calvin is a punk degenerate. Always peeing on logos of automobiles. Disgraceful.
Always loved Calvin and Hobbes, still good today. One of our neighbors moved recently so they are having the paper delivered to our house until the subscription runs out. On Sunday, I read the comics for the first time in years. There were some old familiar faces, and several new ones. Absolutely horrendous. Not funny in the least. Not only did they not make me even smile, they made me a little angry that they were so un-funny.
I had to do a double-take when I saw it - Opus. I completely forgot that BB made a comeback. Read it, and laughed. It was great. The great ones are still great. - alekgv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@wbreim
boondocks?
- bigredgpk, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26I remember reading that as a kid and thinking how true it was. And how true it is today...
- mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Well, it may be more fun to play peace - but history has taught us that it is not practical. There will always be opposition to something and each side will feel compelled to defend their ideas.
- Bobski, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1And how utterly limp-wristed you have become. No offense there Demo's, but note this before you digg me down:
"Peace breeds complacency, conflict sharpens the wit." -me
It does not matter what manner you challenge yourself, whether it is an xtreme board sport, a mountain sport (up, or down), an Olympic sport, or a blood sport, in every instance you place yourself in conflict with the world around you. Not only do you push your own envelope, but *the* envelope if you're good enough. If you have sufficiently challenged yourself and exited whole and intact, you feel alive! Invigorated! Sharp! On top of the World!
War is just the very extreme edge of challenge. Mano y mano. Winner takes all, loser gives all. Some are strong and relish the game, others are cowering pussies who cringe at their own shadow.
War is everywhere, whether in Iraq, or in your own mind. - TomRitchford, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Actually, peace has done pretty well for the US. We had eight years of peace under Clinton, a balanced budget, solid economic growth -- what was wrong with that?
- mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Actually, peace has done pretty well for the US. We had eight years of peace under Clinton, a balanced budget, solid economic growth -- what was wrong with that?"
Bosnia, Kosovo, WTC1, 2 Embassy bombings, and the USS Cole. Clinton used the military in eastern europe, and I remember the republican congress cutting off his funding.
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -81/+7You play peace at night when you "accidentally" hump your stuffed tiger.
- h00paj00, on 10/12/2007, -73/+4Hobbes starts saying "Me love you long time" and let the "peace playtime" begin!
As for the answer... "Play Peace" is called "Play House" or "Riding bikes with your friends" or "Let's All Play Kick the Retarded Boy Down the Street Cause He's Different" - eugeneandbobo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37you guys are both f-ing retarded
- grendelwraith, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Always amuses me how when someone vents their hate they open a window to their true selves.
Get help guys. - aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3wow humping stuffed animals...how old are we then?
- h00paj00, on 10/12/2007, -73/+4Hobbes starts saying "Me love you long time" and let the "peace playtime" begin!
- truegodofwar, on 10/12/2007, -13/+15How come we save JPEG and not PNG?
- bIuebonics, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25actually, a gif would be way more optimal for a black and white comic strip... :P
- bobpaul, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Who's the idiot that neggged biuebonics? GIF /is/ superior for low color count images such as this one. jpeg's dither ruins the sharp edges in the comic, and is only a better option for images with high color counts, like photographs. PNG is had to categorize because it can either be lossy or lossless. In the lossless form, I should expect it to compare pretty well with the gif, possibly look a little better but probably a slightly larger file size -- just a guess here. In the lossy form I think it's more similar to jpeg in it's compression scheme so that wouldn't be good either.
So... black and white comics: either lossless png or gif. - jackhole, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2png is a newer technology and as such should be expected to perform better than gif as a lossless image file.
Shrinking the image down to 800x552px (to reduce the influence of jpeg artifacts) and converting the image to indexed palate resulted in the following sizes:
*.gif: 149.1 kb
*.png 124.4 kb
Resaving the picture as grayscale jpeg was able to beat png filesizes only at 90% quality and below. Consequently the best image format for black/white comics probably is indexed png. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't know... write an article about the benefits of PNG and how it compares to JPG & GIF in terms of size and browser compatibility and i'll not only digg the article, but i'll change to PNG...
- jackhole, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ bitcloud
Already been done.
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/png-gif
- mogwaifearsatan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55Calvin & Hobbes taught me more about the English language as a child than any class in school ever has.
- Bobski, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry over that statement.
- reiner15, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17Anyone else have this load excruciatingly slow?
- xaryss, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2yep
- leprix, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4annnnd its down....
- r0ck3tm4nn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+40Holy oversized jpeg batman!
Great comic, though. I must say it influenced my young life in ways I at the time couldn't perceive. - DearSergio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44I will always digg Calvin and Hobbes. I think it's sad to say it, but my lifes teachings come from Waterson
- FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Not sad at all. My wife and I quote them all the time.
Although the one I've been using the most recently seems to be "I bet your natural charm has made you a great sprinter" - CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5As much as I enjoyed reading Calvin and Hobbs, it came too late for me in the "philosophy of life" category. For that formative time, I was watching _Kung Fu_.
"Is [all life] so connected Master?"
"There is no reason to believe so, Grasshopper. And, no reason not to."
I was so unhappy when the first episode came around in re-runs, and I found out that Master Po was dead.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Not sad at all. My wife and I quote them all the time.
- bcardarella, on 10/12/2007, -100/+5I enjoyed this link when it was on Reddit yesterday.
Go ahead fanboys, digg me down.- berwiki, on 10/12/2007, -7/+56I dugg you down because your comment was pointless and clearly flamebait.
Anyone who says "i saw XXX on YYY already" is juvenile.
grow up kid. - bcardarella, on 10/12/2007, -66/+9No, it wasn't meant as Flamebait. I just honestly believe that when you lift material from another bookmarking site you should give credit to the source. But now after looking at who submitted the article on Reddit and Digg it is the same poster so I apologize, I should have checked that first.
It seems to me that the game lately has been more users trying to find articles on other bookmarking sites and post them to Digg first just to get a front page article instead of browsing the internet, finding something original and sharing that with others.
I antagonized the 'fanboys' more of hopes that it would make someone think twice before digging down and considering the actual content of what I meant... I guess that backfired. :p - krets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+36Excuses, excuses. You're still a whiner.
- freehunter, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23How much more of a credit to the source can you get then saying it is from Calvin and Hobbes? Reddit isn't the source. Calvin and Hobbes is.
- daedalus1982, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7whiner, perhaps. but he had the balls to apologise. i can appreciate that
- triad203, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@bcardarella:
And I enjoyed it when it was originally published (under copyright, I might add) by Bill Watterson II.
And then I enjoyed it again when I bought the compilation books of Bill's work... that included it as well.
So now that Digg posts it, I'm supposed to care that it was on some other site? - threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Not to mention he posted this 21 hours ago.. it took a while to make the front page.
Anyway, Calvin and Hobbes have been around a lot longer then any of these sites so if a good comic happens to make it's rounds to all of them, then good.. nothing wrong with sharing the warm fuzzy Calvin and Hobbes brings most of us. - aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1So do you read newsvine, and yahoo news, and care2, and CNN...or just bookmark sites in general...Oh yeah do you have a life...some of us don't read anything BUT digg.
- berwiki, on 10/12/2007, -7/+56I dugg you down because your comment was pointless and clearly flamebait.
- SimdudeS, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22How do you not digg calvin and hobbes?
- Erroneus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12It's gone, it's gone, o why is the cartoon gone :(
- jmhyer51, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Edit: duggmirror missed it
- noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2That's where the story goes to, moron.
Edit: Glad you edited. :|
- noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2That's where the story goes to, moron.
- Yokai, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3I digg it. =D
- mAarontheGREAT, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20Calvin & Hobbes was great...as i child...i'd sit down with the comic strip...read it...then go get the dictionary to find out why it was funny...
my vocabulary became quite large...
...then college came...now i'm a bunch more stupider *sarcastic humor* - TheElectricMonk, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2need a mirror...
- chas7926, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1nvm
- chas7926, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1nvm
- mrfish, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Can somebody confirm this is the same strip?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamza/395892879/- ffunky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4same
- szembek, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2Yes. And the idiot who posted this should have just put it on flickr to avoid the site going down like it did.
- ffunky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h212/logdoglogdog/calvin_hobbes1.jpg
- Dquinz63, on 10/12/2007, -1/+59http://www.transmogrifier.org/ch/comics/search.cgi
The full Calvin and Hobbes collection in a search able database for those of you who have not already found it. Search for war and it is the 3rd one down in full color.- tconnect80, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I wish I could digg you up twice. Awesome!
- Icefreez, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1http://web.archive.org/web/20051026081601/http://www.webskinz.com/photoshop_intro/projects/comic/calvin_hobbes1.jpg
- candre23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Different link to the same comic, but in color.
http://www.units.muohio.edu/psybersite/Humor/p324hum1.shtml- Paul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I thought i remembered it in color... funny I'm sure its been at least 8 years since I last saw it. I can't remember peoples names but I remember every C&H i ever read. Anyway good stuff!
- techykid, on 10/12/2007, -21/+4Could someone explain the cartoon for me ? I didn't understand it.
May be I am too dumb...- JackondaRocks, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2I guess so...
- Paul, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2oops
- lys3rgic, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3/uninstall
- ajchavar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40they both get hit by darts
therefore
they both die
therefore
no one benefits from war
. . . except halliburton? - techykid, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17@ajchavar
Thanks for explaining it...
What I initially interpreted was, Since Calvin was wearing that Helmet sort of thing, he is actually saved. And Hobbes loses....
So War should be fought with proper defenses in place...
Now I know for sure... that I am actually dumb... - heffae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think given the time it was published (and the reference to godless communist oppressors) it may be specifically about the US and Soviet Policy of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) If you nuke us we will nuke you and then we are both dead. But it is applicable to most war in general.
- Nytemare, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I own the whole collection, not only in the Annual releases, but the complete collection recently released. Gotta love them. Kept me alive during the "impressionist" years of my life. Gave me a reason to wake up and get out of bed. I remember hours of discussions with friends at school about the current strips. Watterson was a genious. I can't wait until my kids are old enough to appreciate it. They already read the strips at 6 and 4 years old.
- Sparkster185, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14That's something I love about Calvin & Hobbes, it appeals to all ages. Goofy enough for children, but sophisticated enough for adults.
- bIuebonics, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@Nytemare
so you were a painter as well? ;) - Nytemare, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I do paint some, but not as much as I'd like. Army and kids get in the way. The "impressionist" years is how I refer to junior high and high school though. I went to a private institution and needless to say, they were fairly blatent in their attempts to brainwash the student body. Changing scriptures to read students instead of "servants." Making us watch videos of abortions. Things of that nature. Overall, the education was good, but if you weren't aware of the brainwashing, it could screw you up. Several individuals that I know of went WAY off the deep end.
- candre23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The word you're looking for is "impressionable".
As Biuemonics pointed out, "impressionist" is in fact a painting style. - cthulhukb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Watterson was a genious."
Watterson still is a genius, he's just been such a recluse for the last 10 years that it's easy to forget he's still alive ;)
I wish to God he would release something new. I can accept that Calvin & Hobbes is finished, but it's disappointing that Watterson has chosen not to take on a new project. Not that he owes us.
- RojoKayako, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12"Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and thoroughly immoral --
doctrine that `violence never settles anything' I would advise to conjure up
the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them
debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the
Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has
settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary
opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic
truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
---- Richard Heinlein- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15It's Robert Heinlein, not Richard.
http://www.quoteland.com/author.asp?AUTHOR_ID=174
A great author. I highly recommend "Stranger in a Strange Land" and "Starship Troopers"
And for future reference, it's George Santayana, not General Santana. ;) - CartoonAl, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Yeah,but Heinlein also said:
"An armed society is a polite society."
Afghanistan anyone? Iraq perhaps? No? - boomboxer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5misplaced quote. first of all, I would not say that the message of the strip was "violence never solves anything." that is obvious anyway; even young children can understand that fighting hitler was a good cause. rather, the message was more like "violence is not cool and is often pointless." and remember that this is a comic strip directed at kids. it is important for them to comprehend the negative aspects of war in general in order for them to ultimately understand when exceptions are justified.
- patrsup, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I agree - funny your using that quote. I have used it a number of times in this context. As to Calvin and Hobbs - they will remain a timeless classic referring to some of our endless childhoods.
War traditionally solves for the winning side what they desire out of it. Having soldiered for over 22 years in war and peace, I have a pretty good feel for outcomes. There will always be hero’s or people we look up to. This is what a soldier is for a young man. Most youth haven’t gotten “to smart for their britches” and can see the value of putting your life in harms way to protect those who cannot/will not fend for themselves. In “Starship Troopers” where the quote comes from, it is that which makes him eligible for citizenship and a vote.
It is to bad we have given the ability to vote to those who will never know anything but the absolute protection of someone else’s life and career. These same “Clueless” people who think it is required for everyone to get along.
But personal responsibility has surrendered to the politically correct establishment.
I think one of the main reoccurring themes of Calvin and Hobbes is their incessant fighting. - CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4An armed society _is_ a polite society.
Violence does solve problems, when the problem is itself one of violence. The individual who initiates coercion makes peaceful resolution impossible. That is what self-defense is all about.
That is why an armed society is a polite society, and why crime rates go up or down in direct opposition to the restrictiveness of laws against self-defense. The more "disarmed" the peaceful people are, the more violent crime occurs, because, "An unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." --Cesare Beccaria
Governments themselves are coercive agents. That's their monopoly in "society". They fund their efforts by coercion, through "taxation", and confiscate land when they want it, through "eminent domain". Passing a law changes the "social contract" at will, and holds everyone to it as if they had agreed to the change before hand. Government is the only agent which can unilaterally change contracts and then hold other accountable for the change.
People who believe in government are thereby explicitly stating their belief in violence as a means to solve _non-violent_ problems. - RalphyPotato, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I wonder if CurtHowland thinks private industry does not itself resort to coercion? It is possible to govern people indirectly through market mechanisms, using the invisible hand to pass the buck or responsibility.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15It's Robert Heinlein, not Richard.
- hammradio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Here is the comic in two other places:
http://www3.eou.edu/hist06/images/WarComic.jpg
http://www.neophilia.de/onlinehome/calvin/war.gif
The real metaphor here is not an actual ground WAR, but nuclear annihilation. As Joshua learned in War Games. There's no winner. Just mutual extinction. That's what Calvin and Hobbes learned here.- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11How about a nice game of chess?
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought it was "never get involved in a land war in Asia..."
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11How about a nice game of chess?
- levip7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I wish bill watterson would make his return, I guess ill just have to re-read all my books again.
- Nytemare, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Unfortunately, he's not coming back. If you read the essay at the beginning of Sunday Pages revisited, he states that while C&H were an extremely important part of his past, they are part of his past. He loves to revisit them as much as we do, but they belong in the past. He's moved on to watercolors and other arts. I wish him the best, but some new C&H would be awesome.
- everynewday, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic ever. Well, maybe next to The Far Side. They're both better than anything that runs now by far.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5I would say that both "Rose Is Rose" and "Over The Edge" have some of the same spirit and quality
- Nytemare, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Zits and Foxtrot are good, but C&H r0x0rz my b0x0rz.
- neuropsychguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree. Dilbert and Foxtrot are the other 2 on my list I really like. They're not at the same philosophical level as C&H and The Far Side but they are really good.
- Pirate45, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Reminds me of when I was younger. C&H was some of the funniest stuff I've ever read. Thanks
- Doorfingers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Calvin and Hobbes are wise beyond their years.
- fooplex, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Yes, the lesson here being, "Don't get involved in a war with only two soldiers in it."
I mean, it's just dumb to have a war with only two soldiers. You need thousands of soldiers, and they need to be engaged in an area where nuclear weapons won't work, or at least one side doesn't have nukes while the other side doesn't want to use theirs. And there needs to be some innocent civilians involved in there somewhere.
Then, you can have a good war. Lesson learned! Thanks Calvin & Hobbes.
- fooplex, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Yes, the lesson here being, "Don't get involved in a war with only two soldiers in it."
- norle, on 10/12/2007, -32/+3Buried for lameness. Calvin and Hobbes should stay away from politics and build more snowmen.
- lastninjaOS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Calvin and Hobbes deal with life. Politics just happens to get in the way.
http://jinnie.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A6969A1DF2526A38!2152.entry - threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Funny, but you got buried for lameness.. that said, Calvin and Hobbes was never political, the beauty was his child-like viewpoint on everything. The whimsy...
One day, you'll be old and on your rocking chair yelling at kids to get off your lawn.. maybe then you can pick up a Calvin and Hobbes and regain a little child-like spirit and build the kids a baseball diamond in your yard... - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2While I disagree with the principles behind your comment, I do agree that those snowmen rocked...
- lastninjaOS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Calvin and Hobbes deal with life. Politics just happens to get in the way.
- Maagic, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5No digg. The dart would never stick to Hobbes' fur.
- techykid, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Not to Calvin's helmet either..
- analyze, on 10/12/2007, -21/+5I like Calvin and Hobbs as much as the next person, but its not as funny when Waterson tries to get political.
- FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1@analyze
Apparently you don't like Calvin and Hobbs as much as the next person. - Ahnteis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Watterson thought that comics were more then a quick gag.
- apoc06, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1those comic strips were more than just a few random gags here and there. watterson exposed millions of children to topics, vocabulary and philosophies that most people [wrongfully] assume that children will never grasp at that age.
watterson himself has always been a symbol of integrity. he stood up for artists everywhere and won artist freedoms for comic strip artists that you and i as readers take for granted. even in light of possible millions, he never once sold out his dream. if not for him, comics very well could have devolved into colorless/ formulaic panels able to be arranged in any shape that allowed the newspaper the most space for ads.
bill watterson and gary larson's struggles with oppressive newspapers and censors worldwide have won countless freedoms for artists and cartoonists.
- FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1@analyze
- schif, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
- threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1SO if I fight and win and gain freedoms for millions of others...
that's the same as..
having sex with a virgin and millions of others become virgins?? hmm no
having sex with a virgin and it makes them virgins?? hmm no
oh i give up
- threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1SO if I fight and win and gain freedoms for millions of others...
- brindon, on 10/12/2007, -24/+1^z THAT GUY WAS ALWAYS A DEMOCRAT COMMUNIST. i FOR ONE AM GLAD THEY CANCELLED HIS COMIC BOOK AND WHERE IS HE NOW??
- derceto, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9You're an idiot.
- brindon, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2deserto,
YOU WANT FUNNY READ GARFIELD. TWO MOVIES AND BILL MURRAY NOW THATS FUNNY!!!!!
- rgzn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0I digg it coz its Calvin and Hobbes!!!
- Infidelephant, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Just curious...
Why hasn't Digg added any new stories to the top in well over 45 minutes?
Oh - and I like Calvin and Hobbes. - combustion8, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3far side>calvin and hobbes
- patientXero, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I love Calvin and Hobbes. Robot chicken did a spoof on it that was hilarious!
- SDM187, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Mars is amazing!!
- bovious, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2Mindless moral equivalence wrapped in a soft shell of pacifist twaddle. Glad he's not still publishing, I'm sure he'd have some especially stupid things to say about the current situation if that's the grasp he shows for the fight against Communism. (We won, they lost, thank God. Maybe war and the threat of war *can* accomplish something!)
- brindon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Where do you think Tim Robbins gets his fans? To us, an actor/activists' applause for their trite support of the aphorism-of-the-day appears ridiculous. But morons and half-wits readily applaud the idea that "war is bad". Really? How ***** bold. As the clone politician said on Futurama, "the time has come to say that I am opposed to all those things that people hate." Stating the ridiculously obvious (bad==bad) currys a lot of favor with the dense but opinionated - which seems to make up most of the Digg crowd...
- BWhaler, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I miss Calvin and Hobbes like the day is long.
It reminds me of my youth. Both through Calvin's eyes, but also since I read C&H every day in school. - TheToecutter, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Wargames draws the same analogy long before Calvin and Hobbes.
"The only way to win the game...is not to play."- IEatHamburgers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4You never heard of Desert Storm have you? Compared to peacetime casualties that the U.S. military suffers, that war actually saved lives. Not for the Iraqis, of course, but I think it would be safe to say that we won that one.
- TheToecutter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@IEatHamburgers
A typically one sided view. I'm referring to the human race winning or losing. You're too concerned with how America performs to realize that there are other solutions to problems besides cluster bombs, carpet bombing, Apache helicopters, and sniper rifles.
Animals solve problems through force. Humans solve problems through rational thought. - laser314, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ TheToecutter
"Animals solve problems through force. Humans solve problems through rational thought."
Since when? I've seen my dog spend ten minutes trying different ways to get her Frisbee off the top of a cabinet and on a different day someone beat the hell out of there monitor because the
OS locked up.
- Gigadafud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i still miss that Bill Watterson stopped doing C&H!
i would just like to tell him 'thank you' for C&H. i know the guy really really likes his privacy and is not one to go out of his way to talk to his fans, but i would still like to thank him if i did ever get to meet him. - earthling3000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Bill Watterson never sold the rights of C&H for any merchandising (have you ever seen a toy or a T-shirt with the characters that is not a bootleg one?) . He could have done millions and millions of dollars with that but he decided not to explore his creation that way. We need more people like him.
- crimsonalucard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I want a hobbes plushie. Just as long as he doesn't sell movie rights.
- Tremblor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1(i think) In the 10th anniversarry book he mentions that he fought for a long time not to make any merchandise, but finally capitulated and licensed a few things.
If I'm wrong i fully expect to be dug down into a tiny, tiny hole
- Jiggernaut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I never fully understood why I liked C&H as a kid. But not, looking back at being an only child, I think I could always relate to the imagination that was required to keep yourself amused.
I think I'll have to dust off my collection... - Arju, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Calvin & Hobbes was the one comic I always read...
I bought about 8 books and finally this Christmas I bought the complete collection.
I will always remember Calvin & Hobbes... - xler8, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Mutts FTW.
(Note that this is my first use of 'FTW' ever. In the the old lingo, I would have said, "Mutts is the new Calvin and Hobbes.") - marko028, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0This was so cute...and scarily true. We fight wars but what are we really solving? Nothing. How will killing thousands of people solve the problem, only achieve an outcome. If preserving democracy involved killing people from a dictator who was killing people, what have we really done except stooped down to their levels. Playing war is fun, yeah we all play video games and what not, but I am against using war in real life to achieve success. In my opinion, if preserving democracy requires millions to die for it, then maybe its not worth it. And now plz don't digg me down for saying that, I'm not saying anything bad. I just want to say that war like the comic shows is stupid because its just a contest to see who's more powerful and I don't believe power should determine who is right.
- Noxieas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gahndi
/that is all- RojoKayako, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1An then...he was shot dead in the name of Radical Islam.
Yeah...that Ghandi was smart, huh?
- RojoKayako, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1An then...he was shot dead in the name of Radical Islam.
- Tremblor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1When i was a young'in i read Calvin and Hobbes all the time. When I got to middle school my teachers remarked that my vocabulary was much more advanced than most kids my age. My parents and I attributed it to reading C+H.
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"509 Bandwidth Limit Exceeded"
I don't get it. -
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