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- Shootingsparks, on 06/05/2008, -11/+180
- CrazedLeper, on 06/06/2008, -2/+9I knew the day he was "announced" president that there would be a war...but, then, I was paying attention. Here's what else I know:
http://digg.com/political_opinion/The_Most_Expensi ...- Godlike, on 06/06/2008, -0/+4Dugg for 'announced'.
- kevinwiz, on 06/06/2008, -0/+11Right, I'm shocked that it took the rest of the country this long to figure it out. Or maybe I'm not shocked.
- plarp, on 06/06/2008, -11/+2guess the democrats weren't paying attention.. takes 2 too tango. and america is the dance floor for reps, and dems.
- nbrntrt, on 06/06/2008, -0/+10I thought the republicans had control of the house and senate at that time... was I dreaming?
- plarp, on 06/06/2008, -9/+3i guess you wore sleeping while democrats wore voting for war.
- mikelieman, on 06/06/2008, -0/+4Voting for the AUMF-Iraq wasn't a declaration of war, consistent with Congress' duties, but that aside, lying to congress to deprive them of their lawful oversight duties is in clear violation of both 18 USC 371 and 18 USC 1001.
If Martha Stewart can go to jail for lying WITHOUT BEING SWORN UNDER OATH, why not Bush?
That's right, because he and his gang are *literally* "Above the Law". Like any other dictator.
All the brave Americans who made the sacrifice to keep America free? Wasted. - plarp, on 06/06/2008, -2/+2i didn't say bush wasn't a war criminal.. but don't let the democrats get off on this easy.. feel free to digg me down for tellin the truth; feel free to be as guilty as anyone else over looking the truth in their face when both republicans, and democrats made the argument for war with iraq.
- mikelieman, on 06/07/2008, -0/+2I am uninterested in wasting time discussing who-in-congress-did-what, and possibly distracting from the salient point here.
George W. Bush has *apparently* broken numerous laws. More significant than those which Martha Stewart and Marion Jones HAVE SERVED FEDERAL PRISON TIME FOR.
It is not Congress, but the United States Attorneys at the DOJ who choose NOT to bring this to a Grand Jury -- the ones unlawfully selected for hiring for their credentials as Loyal Bushies.
Which is too bad. I understand that "The Few Good Men" were fired for not being Loyal Bushies wouldn't have tolerated this, but the've been replaced with the current crop of hand-picked christian-extremists, willing to disgrace America by working to keep the Bush Gang above the law. - plarp, on 06/07/2008, -1/+1the reason we are in this mess is because people are 'uninterested in wasting time' they just reacted. if you are not a loyalist then hey lets look at the laws clinton broke also.. even found guilty of.. also things far more significant then stewart, and jones.. did he go to jail?? was he disbarred?
as long as you continue the 'uninterested in wasting time' then you are no better then any bushie.
you can simply blame 'bush' or 'clinton'.. or take a step back dismantle the class system that allows the ruling class of the 'bushes', and 'clintons' to commit crimes without fear or recourse.
when you do take that step back you will see that both the democrats, and republicans maintain their control by having you waste your time 'pointing' at the other team. while those in the power of those 2 parties get to do whatever they want. - mikelieman, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Clinton was impeached.
When Bush is impeached, we can continue the comparison.
- 4321234, on 06/06/2008, -0/+5Let me get this straight. You're saying anybody who believed the Bush / Cheney ***** is just as guilty as Bush and Cheney? Isn't that kind of making a stretch to excuse their evils?
- zombies187, on 06/06/2008, -0/+2The republican defense against accusations of crime:
We are the moral equal of democrats! And you know how we feel about democrats!
Why not grow up and take responsibility for what happened? Bush lied to get us in a war. He should pay the consequences. Why arrest congress and let Bush go free? - Terr01, on 06/06/2008, -0/+4A) A majority of Democrats voted against the Iraq AUMF. The only way to say a majority of Dems voted for it is if you specifically look at the Senate.
B) The AUMF contains a condition. That condition is that the President MUST officially certify (via a "Presidential Determination") that certain things are true, either before invading or shortly afterwards.
Bush never fulfilled those. His document basically said: "Congress proof you want is proven by the fact that you said you're think it's possible". And it also tied Iraq to the fight against those who caused 9/11.
'Course, that doesn't excuse Democrats from not at least trying to point that out--although it's sort of estoric.
- nbrntrt, on 06/06/2008, -0/+10I thought the republicans had control of the house and senate at that time... was I dreaming?
- jakkyl, on 06/06/2008, -3/+3You guys ought to read this before you foam at the mouth...
http://whatdoiknow.typepad.com/what_do_i_know/2005 ... - msipes, on 06/06/2008, -16/+21 minute in. George Tenet... the CIA Director telling you....they believed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WszrLrd0okY
This is years AFTER he was removed. Nobody had influence on him to lie on the air.
THE CIA DIRECTOR SAYS WE BELIEVED IRAQ HAD WMD. BUSH DID NOT LIE.
GET OVER IT YOU LOONS.
I could go on and on and on and on. There is not one single bit of evidence that shows Bush lied.
http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_16_words_on_iraq_ur ...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/31/national ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325785,00.html
Piro said Saddam also said that he wanted to keep up the illusion that he had the program in part because he thought it would deter a likely Iranian invasion.
"For him, it was critical that he was seen as still the strong, defiant Saddam. He thought that (faking having the weapons) would prevent the Iranians from reinvading Iraq," Piro told Scott Pelley of "60 Minutes."
Piro added that Saddam had the intention of restarting an Iraqi weapons program at the time, and had engineers available for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/LarryElder/2006 ...- swrostmore, on 06/06/2008, -0/+8Statements in dozens of prewar speeches and interviews created the impression that Baghdad and Al Qaeda had forged a partnership. But the report concludes that such assertions "were not substantiated by the intelligence" being shown to senior officials at the time.
Claims that Sept. 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta had met with an Iraqi agent in Prague, for example, were dubious from the beginning and subsequently discounted. The idea that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had provided chemical and biological weapons training to Al Qaeda hinged on intelligence from a source who soon was discredited.
Bush officials strayed even further from the evidence in suggesting that Hussein was prepared to provide weapons of mass destruction to Al Qaeda terrorist groups -- a linchpin in the case for war.
In October 2002, for example, Bush warned in a key speech in Cincinnati that "secretly, and without fingerprints, [Hussein] could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own." The threat was repeated frequently in the run-up to war but was "contradicted by available intelligence information," the committee says.
On post-war prospects, the report contrasts the rosy scenarios conjured by Cheney and others with more sober intelligence warnings that were being presented to senior officials.
Cheney's prediction that U.S. forces would "be greeted as liberators" was at odds with reports from the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency, which warned nearly a year earlier that invading U.S. forces would face serious resistance from "the Baathists, the jihadists and Arab nationalists who oppose any U.S. occupation of Iraq."
- swrostmore, on 06/06/2008, -0/+8Statements in dozens of prewar speeches and interviews created the impression that Baghdad and Al Qaeda had forged a partnership. But the report concludes that such assertions "were not substantiated by the intelligence" being shown to senior officials at the time.
- 4321234, on 06/06/2008, -0/+6Tenent didn't want to be on the outside looking in so he suck-holed and played Bush and Cheney's game. In the end, they rewarded him by making him a scapegoat and firing him. So they're not just liars, they're treacherous liars.
- yakski, on 06/06/2008, -0/+5Piro is not even credible period!!!!... there is no evidence to back up anything the man has said... and future plans for future weapons is absolutely not a good reason to go to war ...
BUSH LIED period.... get over it... if you had any objective evidence I would gladly look at it, but ALL the evidence points to a creep who decided even before he was elected to start a war and invade Iraq... the very fact that he told George Tenet to have the evidence prepared for the next cabinet meeting.. or else... is evidence he knew exactly what he was doing despite the complete lack of evidence... you sir are either nuts or a loon.
- CrazedLeper, on 06/06/2008, -2/+9I knew the day he was "announced" president that there would be a war...but, then, I was paying attention. Here's what else I know:
- livegreenordie, on 06/05/2008, -10/+110 We knew he was lying but isn't it great to get it in writing?
- CoolHandLuke70, on 06/06/2008, -8/+70They are congenital liars -- I find it amazing and disturbing the most of the American public fall for it!
- Infidelcastr0, on 06/06/2008, -0/+3Disturbing, yes. Amazing, no.
- morcheeba, on 06/06/2008, -0/+2Some senators fell for it, too.
- leexy, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1You find it amazing and disturbing. Piles of Iraqis found it deadly.
Let me point out that whatever happened in Iraq was in the name and on the dime of the American people.
- Rabbittt, on 06/06/2008, -7/+127Call me when the War Crimes Tribunal convenes..
- h3lx, on 06/06/2008, -2/+2Just follow the celebration. I'll be bringing an "Atomic Bong."
- DigitAl56K, on 06/06/2008, -0/+19What gets me is that we go on a rampage after Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda for flying two planes into a building, which was a horrible, horrible thing to do, but the men who led us to *invade a country* unsettling hundreds of thousands of people, killing many, dropping depleted uranium bombs everywhere (how's that different from a dirty bomb except by scale?), ruining our economy by running up tens of billions in debt funding the whole thing while personally profiting from it through Haliburton and the like, and everyone is content to sit by and let them serve out their terms as President and Vice President.
Our double standards are absolutely unbelievable.- staffa, on 06/07/2008, -0/+4I agree with most of what you say, I just want to correct you on depleted uranium.
When you take natural uranium from the soil, it is fairly harmless. To make it dangerous you have to concentrate the dangerous isotope by removing the less dangerous isotope. So you take a big pile of natural uranium and separate it into two piles. One pile has the super dangerous stuff the other pile is less dangerous then natural uranium, as much of what made it dangerous was specifically filtered into the other pile. The less dangerous pile is depleted uranium. As a radioactive source it is less dangerous the stuff when it comes out of the ground and that isn't that dangerous.
The problem with depleted uranium is that it is still a chemical and it is a dangerous one. It can poison you, not with radiation(thus not at all like a dirty bomb) but chemically, like arsenic etc.
- staffa, on 06/07/2008, -0/+4I agree with most of what you say, I just want to correct you on depleted uranium.
- ScottoGato, on 06/06/2008, -1/+4Should we just send you an e-mail when they get pardoned?
- userperson, on 06/06/2008, -2/+2Hell is still hot.
- userperson, on 06/06/2008, -2/+2Hell is still hot.
- chicofaraby, on 06/06/2008, -8/+77Millions of us knew they were lying before the illegal invasion of Iraq. Just Google up "February 15, 2003 Iraq protests." The claim that Iraq was ever a threat to the USA was ALWAYS laughably absurd.
- RootAccess, on 06/06/2008, -12/+1Need I remind you of the black hawk down incident in Mogadishu, Somalia? NEVER underestimate the ingenuity of a determined people.
- chicofaraby, on 06/06/2008, -1/+11You are claiming that Somalia is a threat to the US?
Now THAT'S absurd.- RootAccess, on 06/09/2008, -0/+0For a small, collective group they sure did a mighty good job holding us off. That's all I'm saying.
- leexy, on 06/07/2008, -0/+3Maybe, just maybe, if you didn't have military presence ALL around the world, people wouldn't be downing your helicopters.
- chicofaraby, on 06/06/2008, -1/+11You are claiming that Somalia is a threat to the US?
- CrazedLeper, on 06/06/2008, -1/+8Every bit as absurd as the non-threats from Iran, North Korea and Bush family friend and CIA agent, Tim Osman -- a.k.a. Osama Bin Laden and the defunct Al-Qaeda.
- 9bpm9, on 06/07/2008, -4/+1There is nothing ***** illegal about invading another country.
- RootAccess, on 06/06/2008, -12/+1Need I remind you of the black hawk down incident in Mogadishu, Somalia? NEVER underestimate the ingenuity of a determined people.
- InvisibleInk, on 06/06/2008, -9/+87Impeach!
- CrazedLeper, on 06/06/2008, -4/+11No impeachment is forthcoming. Unfortunately, neither is an execution.
- userperson, on 06/06/2008, -2/+5oh you kids and your pranks.
Why don't you suggest he be censured too, while you're being imaginative and whimsical. - biotch, on 06/06/2008, -4/+5yeah impeach with less than 230 days to go. If we're lucky we'll spend all that time and energy to remove him from office and finally succeed in doing so after he has already left.
- AutoTom, on 06/07/2008, -0/+3hed be so busy fighting it he wouldnt have time to screw the world up any worse
- vurdillac, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1If we had a something really important like ***** an intern or at least a blowjob maybe we could impeach - come on Bush, give us something to work with!
- built2spill, on 06/06/2008, -5/+13The war is going just about how I pictured it before it started. I didn't necessarily think it would last this long, however.
- zombies187, on 06/06/2008, -1/+4Then it basically went nothing like you pictured?
- userperson, on 06/06/2008, -2/+3You're just like my favorite psychic Sean Spencer.
- mrraven200, on 06/07/2008, -1/+4I hear you I have e-mails from 2002 from before the war started predicting it would be "4th gen" guerilla warfare and Sunni v.s. *****. If a landscaper and low level web developer like me can figure it out I don't believe anyone in the elite was dumbfounded they ALL lied to you from NPR to Fox, from Pelosi to Bush!
- shadow54682, on 06/06/2008, -7/+17This is news? This is more like 2004 news
- jstohler, on 06/06/2008, -2/+17For smart people, yes. But for most of the citizens of Idiot America, this is still news.
- Carl306, on 06/06/2008, -9/+15We realize this 5 years later?
:(- 9bpm9, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1That's kind of how history works.
- scoetrain, on 06/06/2008, -12/+60Nobody cares.
NOTHING will be done about this.
and that's a goddamn shame.- rajid, on 06/07/2008, -1/+7Yes, it is, because even starting impeachment proceedings, even if they couldn't get anywhere before this bozo leaves office, would be great positive sign, would improve our standing with the rest of the world, and would greatly help the next administration, which is going to have to clean up the mess! (Must remember to breath!)
- rajid, on 06/07/2008, -1/+7Yes, it is, because even starting impeachment proceedings, even if they couldn't get anywhere before this bozo leaves office, would be great positive sign, would improve our standing with the rest of the world, and would greatly help the next administration, which is going to have to clean up the mess! (Must remember to breath!)
- omnithought, on 06/06/2008, -10/+12This is news?
- MarioWhereRu, on 06/06/2008, -21/+2
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- FadieZ, on 06/06/2008, -1/+4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _____________
- spect3r, on 06/06/2008, -6/+9This has been known for a long time, no?
- digitronix, on 06/06/2008, -7/+28I would personally like to see everybody responsible for getting us in this mess tried, hung, quartered, and finished off with a Blendtec® totalblender.
- Combat, on 06/06/2008, -1/+5seconded.
- EllenO, on 06/07/2008, -0/+0Then you're also crazy.
- Combat, on 06/06/2008, -1/+5seconded.
- Dibou, on 06/06/2008, -26/+11Yet another lie-filled article.
- gimpbully, on 06/07/2008, -2/+9huh? you realize this actually happened right?... i mean.. it is reality... this actually hap.. forget it, it's no use
- Dibou, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1No, actually these things did not actually happen.
In your fantasy world Bush made things up because he wanted to go to war and nothing was going to stop him.
In REALITY, all the intelligence from our CIA and our allies said Saddam was a threat. Clinton, top Democrats, the UN, our allies ALL AGREED at the time. Saddam ALSO was ignoring the UN resolutions and firing at our aircraft protecting northern Iraq from Saddam.
You see that is the difference between your "Bush lied, people died" and reality.
- Dibou, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1No, actually these things did not actually happen.
- zebco, on 06/07/2008, -2/+7You're an uneducated sheep. Go back to the field and sniff around for people as dumb as you so you can refer to them as 'friends' and get together once in a while to talk about how much better the United States is now that the government can unconstitutionally listen to all phone conversations.
Isn't that what you idiots do? Sit around and talk about how dumb things are really necessary and awesome?- Dibou, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Another simpleton who thinks OTHERS are the sheep. It is quite ironic.
You see, in your liberal fantasy world Bush taps all phones and listens in on what liberals say (like he would actually care).
In REALITY, the US has the ability to listen in our phone calls, but they don't go listening in on US citizen's phone calls without a court order. Yes, you heard that correct, your news source was lying to you. They listen in our potential FOREIGN TERRORIST'S phone calls. Sometimes those phone calls are routed through US property. That is not unconstitutional.
But don't let that sway you from your hatred. It must be very dear to you. Go with it. Spew it here for all you are worth.
- Dibou, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Another simpleton who thinks OTHERS are the sheep. It is quite ironic.
- gimpbully, on 06/07/2008, -2/+9huh? you realize this actually happened right?... i mean.. it is reality... this actually hap.. forget it, it's no use
- iamtehwinnerz, on 06/06/2008, -10/+13Sad thing is most of us aren't even surprised, and most of us know that nothing will be done. I can only hope that Obama puts Bush in front of a Judge when he's in office.
- FriskDown, on 06/06/2008, -5/+6HAHAHAHA
I wouldn't count on it!
- FriskDown, on 06/06/2008, -5/+6HAHAHAHA
- Chassit, on 06/06/2008, -11/+13In related news, water is wet.
- homercles337, on 06/06/2008, -5/+9This means nothing. The Teflon Party will not see any negative reaction to this report. They never do... :(
- soulkitchen, on 06/07/2008, -0/+2So lets get Pelosi. The only thing worse than our current administration is our opposition party's lack of holding them accountable. It's time to make the statement "Do your job, or we'll find someone who will".
- obliviousfool, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Do you live in Pelosi's district? Yeah, neither do I.
- soulkitchen, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Ah, but she's the speaker of the house, which through some obscure law allows us to vote her "not speaker of the house". Seriously
- obliviousfool, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Do you live in Pelosi's district? Yeah, neither do I.
- soulkitchen, on 06/07/2008, -0/+2So lets get Pelosi. The only thing worse than our current administration is our opposition party's lack of holding them accountable. It's time to make the statement "Do your job, or we'll find someone who will".
- damonic, on 06/06/2008, -7/+6Ummmm, duh...
- bbqsalad, on 06/06/2008, -6/+13Yet we do nothing...
- userperson, on 06/06/2008, -0/+3Indeed we write our congressmen!
... then nothing happens.
Indeed we should protest in the streets!
... then nothing happens.
Indeed we should vote _______ into office they'll fix things, and never pull crap like this.
... things continue as before.
Indeed we should over throw the gov't.
BANG! falls over dead.- bbqsalad, on 06/07/2008, -0/+2Exactly, It seems they made sure the people have no voice that can reach the top. After Nixon they must have fixed that.
- mrraven200, on 06/07/2008, -0/+2Indeed I sometimes wonder if the internet is promoted as a pressure relief valve. :( I for one did the non violent marching and petition thing and it accomplished zip. Any other ideas?
- userperson, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Be free, as is possible.
Don't recognize authority you have chosen for your self, unless it has a gun behind it. - userperson, on 06/08/2008, -0/+2@userperson
ONLY recognize authority you have chosen for your self, DO NOT RECOGNIZE OTHER AUTHORITY unless it has a gun behind it.
fixed it, if you stop commenting while drunk this sort of thing won't be necessary.
- userperson, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Be free, as is possible.
- userperson, on 06/06/2008, -0/+3Indeed we write our congressmen!
- mishaco, on 06/06/2008, -6/+9all this and more at *****.com
- notoneofus, on 06/06/2008, -0/+5Have you actually gone to that site? It does exist...
- AlanFang, on 06/06/2008, -3/+28Why is it that the Senate Intelligence Committee is the last one to know about this?
- StarlessKnight, on 06/06/2008, -0/+3Well, in their defense, they're not very bright. I mean, these are the people that vote on things they haven't even read.
- mikeblur, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Pat Roberts, 100-percent yes man to Bush, chaired the SSIC from 03 to 07. So basically, the SSIC was a Bush cheerleader until now.
Roberts is up for re-election in Kansas. He needs to go.
- Skywise, on 06/06/2008, -22/+6No.
They didn't.- kanabiis, on 06/06/2008, -1/+10Yea, I mean look at all those WMDs we found all over the place, just laying in the sand in Iraq.... Mobile weapons factories everywhere, Iraq was practically a WMD factory.
And when our soldiers drive through the streets in Iraq they can hardly see through the shower of flowers that rains upon them daily.
And I cant believe how cheap gas is these days, I mean that Iraqi oil not only paid for the war, it has brought us the cheapest oil prices we have ever seen.
- kanabiis, on 06/06/2008, -1/+10Yea, I mean look at all those WMDs we found all over the place, just laying in the sand in Iraq.... Mobile weapons factories everywhere, Iraq was practically a WMD factory.
- OffPiste, on 06/06/2008, -18/+6Well this seals it. I'm not voting for Bush-Chenney in the 08 elections. I'll vote for McCain and his VP candidate. I've had it with Bush. 7 years and still he hasn't caught UBL. We need a REAL military man with combat experience to bring the fight to the enemy.
- Combat, on 06/06/2008, -0/+6I think he's joking... heh heh heh... wait... you ARE joking right?
- kanabiis, on 06/06/2008, -0/+5Yea, hes going to find Osama bin Laden in Iraq suddenly right?
Take the fight to Al-Quida by continuing to fight a war in a country that had no Al-Quida presence prior to the war, and a minimal questionable presence now.
Meanwhile we will continue to decline the troop presence in Afghanistan where Al-Quida held headquarters, and continue to not put pressure on the one country that is probably harboring Bin Laden, Pakistan.
Way to bring the fight to the enemy.... continue to fight everywhere the enemy is not, and continue to attempt to bring the fight to yet another country that has nothing to do with Bin Laden, Iran.
Its as if the agenda is to continue to let Bin Laden live......
REAL military man, what a joke..... REAL senile military is more like it. - Serphyas, on 06/06/2008, -1/+7You've "had it" with Bush and his false war, so you're going to vote for a Republican who wants to continue that war and stay in Iraq for 100 years? That is some concrete logic.
- OffPiste, on 06/06/2008, -4/+1God people on Digg are idiots.
- phorty40, on 06/06/2008, -3/+3This would be news 5 years ago
- ColonelJessup, on 06/06/2008, -3/+18Digg needs a 'DUH' section.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 06/07/2008, -0/+3Here it is! http://digg.com/users/ColonelJessup/history
- jcm267, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Wow. His commenting history actually is pretty entertaining!
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 06/07/2008, -0/+3Here it is! http://digg.com/users/ColonelJessup/history
- Hrag, on 06/06/2008, -5/+3Wow. This is news to me.
- pintomp3, on 06/06/2008, -2/+21smaller news papers like knight ridder were able to see through the lies, yet the corporate media like fox news, msnbc, and the new york times spread the lies like wild fire.
- MadPooter, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1Knight Ridder isn't a small newspaper--it was a conglomerate of newspapers across the country that was bought out a couple of years ago. You're not quite making the comparison you think you're making.
- mrraven200, on 06/07/2008, -1/+2Yep NPR too which contrary to what the dittoheads will tell you is center right on the scale of world media.
ONLY the extremists like Democracy Now! and the American Conservative (Pat Buchanan's rag) got it right before the war.
See:
democracynow.org
amconmag.com
antiwar.com
counterpunch.org
- mrraven200, on 06/07/2008, -1/+2Yep NPR too which contrary to what the dittoheads will tell you is center right on the scale of world media.
- MadPooter, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1Knight Ridder isn't a small newspaper--it was a conglomerate of newspapers across the country that was bought out a couple of years ago. You're not quite making the comparison you think you're making.
- vexingmodstwo, on 06/06/2008, -5/+7You guys do realize that not one new piece of evidence has come out of Phase II? If they didn't impeach in 2006, they sure as hell aren't going to now.
- x1soundgarden1x, on 06/06/2008, -1/+74For Christ' sake, WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO IMPEACH A PRESIDENT these days? They impeached Clinton for getting oral sex but this guy and his administration are responsible for 4000 dead Americans, a trillion dollars of projected debt, a devastated economy, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, and all of it done with intentional falsification and Democrats won't even mention the possibility of impeachment. What planet are we living on where this makes any sense whatsoever?
- Combat, on 06/06/2008, -9/+3Correction, they impeached Clinton for perjury. Is Bush considered under oath when he talks to congress or the American people? I'm all for putting Bush in front of a judge, but it's not going to happen. All we can do is put someone else in office in January.
- blate, on 06/06/2008, -0/+6Personally I think that a politician should be considered under oath during any statement he makes while in power. I know it's wishful thinking, but damn it would make life easier.
- yakski, on 06/06/2008, -0/+2Correction ... The Senate also acquitted on the charge of perjury with 55 votes cast as "not guilty," and 45 votes as "guilty." ...
- spritom, on 06/07/2008, -1/+1Correction ... Clinton was impeached. Impeachment is only the first of two stages to remove somebody from office.
- overtoke, on 06/07/2008, -0/+2He swore an oath when he took office. He has violated that oath many times.
- ouzome, on 06/06/2008, -10/+4They impeached Clinton for lying under oath, but nice try spinster.
- yakski, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1The Senate also acquitted on the charge of perjury with 55 votes cast as "not guilty," and 45 votes as "guilty."
- ccblaker, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1Isn't that what the above article is about?
- mrraven200, on 06/07/2008, -1/+1Lets see lying about sex which everybody does equals hairs breath from impeachment. Lying and starting a war equals nothing? What's wrong with this picture? And no I don't say that to defend the disgusting Clintons look about my comments about Billary here to see what I mean. Just because the Clinton SUCK however doesn't mean Bush should be able to get away with blatant war crimes. Remember what your mama told you "two wrongs don't make a right?"
Take that to the bank dittoheads!
- mrraven200, on 06/07/2008, -1/+1Lets see lying about sex which everybody does equals hairs breath from impeachment. Lying and starting a war equals nothing? What's wrong with this picture? And no I don't say that to defend the disgusting Clintons look about my comments about Billary here to see what I mean. Just because the Clinton SUCK however doesn't mean Bush should be able to get away with blatant war crimes. Remember what your mama told you "two wrongs don't make a right?"
- jgzman, on 06/06/2008, -3/+5I wonder if they might not have impeached Clinton for the sole purpose of rendering an impeachment political suicide for the next 10 years or so.....
- StarlessKnight, on 06/06/2008, -1/+1It's not political suicide if you can prove your case. Insofar as the Public has been truly informed, those in power are barely even trying. "Impeachment is off the table." Right there was a white flag. Want to talk about emboldening a group? That's pretty much "you're off until the end" after which they'll probably try slipping out of the lime light and blame the next guy for whatever happens next.
- jgzman, on 06/08/2008, -0/+1I believe that political suicide is the reason Pelosi took impeachment off the table. Almost everyone I've spoken to says 'oh hell, don't ***** around with another impeachment.'
- StarlessKnight, on 06/06/2008, -1/+1It's not political suicide if you can prove your case. Insofar as the Public has been truly informed, those in power are barely even trying. "Impeachment is off the table." Right there was a white flag. Want to talk about emboldening a group? That's pretty much "you're off until the end" after which they'll probably try slipping out of the lime light and blame the next guy for whatever happens next.
- InvisibleInk, on 06/06/2008, -2/+2And don't forget the 3000 dead in the WTC. Rice ignored the counter-terrorism team's warnings that the U.S. was about to be attacked and the Bush administration did nothing to avoid it.
- ouzome, on 06/07/2008, -0/+2whatever, like your wimpy Al Gore or John Kerry would have done anything. Or Obama....please sister
- rmmcclay, on 06/07/2008, -0/+5Actually Clinton was impeached for lying about a blow job.
- deskimo, on 06/07/2008, -1/+2You see, ever since the Republican Congress abused their constitutional authority to impeach by using it against Bill Clinton and then suffered a popularity backlash for it, subsequent Congresses have been afraid to use their constitutional authority correctly to investigate into high crimes for fear of suffering a similar popularity backlash(which has been renamed "dividing the country").
So the grand irony of this is - Republicans, by using impeachment improperly, rendered Congress impotent against the crimes that their party would commit when occupying the office that the provision of impeachment was intended - when properly used - to hold accountable!
Of course, impeachment is still possible, but not likely. There would need to be some rock solid evidence that President Bush flat out lied in his case to go to war in order for the Democrats to have the legal authority, let alone the stones, to impeach. We're talking, evidence like a tape prior to March 2003 in which President Bush states something to the effect of "I know there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq - we just need the American public to believe that there are WMDs there in order for us to fulfill the neocon dream of 'spreading democracy' and simultaneously enrich our friends!" I would expect any such evidence, if it ever existed, to have been long ago destroyed by the likes of Karl Rove or Rumsfeld, who seem to have no scruples whatsoever. But more likely, the protective bubble that keeps George Bush from hearing inconvenient truths - namely, the bubble created by Dick Cheney - would prevent any such evidence from having existed in the first place.
- Combat, on 06/06/2008, -9/+3Correction, they impeached Clinton for perjury. Is Bush considered under oath when he talks to congress or the American people? I'm all for putting Bush in front of a judge, but it's not going to happen. All we can do is put someone else in office in January.
- imover, on 06/06/2008, -3/+4This is not really that unexpected but what are we the people going to do about it??
Nothing like usual!- biotch, on 06/06/2008, -1/+4Fire our reps who still promote this war.
- leexy, on 06/07/2008, -0/+2Well, you do have the illusion of choice between Obama and McCain. Both of which are in the pockets of the MIC and AIPAC (which, as far as I recall, was a major force in pushing for the war on Iraq).
Granted, Obama's rhetoric is less inflammatory, but anyone expecting a change in foreign policy is naive.
- AsylumAleikum, on 06/06/2008, -11/+5The democRat leaders made similar assertions based on the same intelligence. Was it because they knowingly lied to the American people, or because they were too dumb to comprehend the intelligence, or both?
- zombies187, on 06/06/2008, -3/+2It was because they trusted the President of the United States. They have respect for the office. But you already knew that. Is it that you are knowingly lying, too dumb or both?
- Waterrat, on 06/07/2008, -2/+3 Hey! Don't put rats in the same catagory with these guys...
Rats have more ethics and morals.
- billsoman, on 06/06/2008, -13/+5The article states "Bush, Cheney Knowingly Lied about Iraq Threat"
Unfortunately for the writer's credibility, that's not what the Senate report says. - mediaspree, on 06/06/2008, -2/+5Lying under oath is an impeachable offense...right? ...right?
- spritom, on 06/07/2008, -1/+2From el Wikipedia...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeach#Impeachable_o ...
"treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."
In 1970, then-House Minority Leader Gerald R. Ford defined the criteria as he saw it: "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history." - 9bpm9, on 06/07/2008, -1/+1All impeachment means is to bring up on charges, congress still has to improve him being kicked out of office.
- spritom, on 06/07/2008, -1/+2From el Wikipedia...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeach#Impeachable_o ...
- mixomatosys, on 06/06/2008, -9/+7honestly, what is the point of this?
- mrraven200, on 06/07/2008, -4/+2To bring war criminals to a Nuremberg like trial hopefully. We can always hope Bush is seized when steps off the plane in Paraguay.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 06/07/2008, -1/+3Um, yeah....you just keep on fappin' to that thought.
- mrraven200, on 06/07/2008, -4/+2Fapping? I swear they make you right wing kids stupider, and stupider every year. Newspeak much?
- EllenO, on 06/07/2008, -0/+0Psh. I'm not on the "right" and i agree with em.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 06/07/2008, -1/+3Um, yeah....you just keep on fappin' to that thought.
- mrraven200, on 06/07/2008, -4/+2To bring war criminals to a Nuremberg like trial hopefully. We can always hope Bush is seized when steps off the plane in Paraguay.
- ashwinmudigonda, on 06/06/2008, -5/+11Why is nothing being done when such severe ***** has happened. I mean the valerie plaime case was big enough. That was muffled. Now this. And all they are talking is impeachment? What happens after these numbnuts lose power and their diplomatic immunity?
- monkeyrun, on 06/06/2008, -3/+6Because the democrats are useless.
No check, no balance.
- monkeyrun, on 06/06/2008, -3/+6Because the democrats are useless.
- lookb3hindu, on 06/06/2008, -2/+3I dont see what we can do now........he is a lame duck and all of this just proves what we the people have been saying all along, but Bush will still get to go play golf no matter what.
- userperson, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1True dat, now watch this drive.
- mazdaspeed79, on 06/06/2008, -6/+5In other late breaking news, there is a planet called Saturn and carrots are orange.
- davidhallstrom, on 06/06/2008, -10/+6Lot's of allegations but where is the back up. Some people are willing and want to believe anything if it's anti-Bush.
- EllenO, on 06/07/2008, -0/+0That's how it is these days..
- mattsadd, on 06/06/2008, -5/+8WE KNOW. WE GET IT.
- cambob76, on 06/06/2008, -4/+4This is getting retarded. Nothing is going to happen while Bush is in office. Nothing might happen afterward. We all know the 'War on Terror" is *****. Iraq might have been a threat, if it was located where MEXICO IS. Articles like this just make me tired.
- RemovesTime, on 06/06/2008, -8/+5Isn't it President Cheney and his puppet Bush?
- FreeTalkLIve, on 06/06/2008, -9/+2Shoulda had a Ron Paul.
- RemovesTime, on 06/06/2008, -4/+4...and nice how they crippled Iraq, an enemy of Iran.....perpetual campaign..
- 9bpm9, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1The whole Artab world is the enemy of Iran. As you can see, Iran is not Arabic, it's Persian. I'd like to see Iran even try and invade Iraq, see what the rest of the Arab world does.
- OohChit, on 06/06/2008, -3/+6Duh.. When does the prosecutions start??
Ummm, never.. The dems are wussies.
It seems we are going to have to count on foreigners to prosecute. - Serphyas, on 06/06/2008, -5/+4Congratulations on your report, Senate Intelligence Committee! This will surely bring about the impeachment that Bush and Company deserve...oh wait, no it won't! As usual.
Stop expecting impeachment of the war criminals in the White House. The American people's elected Congressmen are apathetic cowards who are more concerned about their own reelection than bringing justice to this country. - TonyQClifton, on 06/06/2008, -4/+7 wow, you couldn't find a BIT more reputable site to link? Looks like a 5th grader's blog.
Quotes from Rockefeler? LMFAO, you might as well take quotes from Sadam's corpse.- ouzome, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1I like you Tony.
Love,
Andy
(p.s. You wanna see some humor? I'll show you humor!) - swrostmore, on 06/06/2008, -0/+2I agree, the reason the report on Bush's pre-war lies is so watered-down and inconclusive is because it was produced by J. "Bush's favorite democrat" Rockefeller, who is demonstrably in Bush's pocket.
- Winston84, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Are you sure it's not the other way around ?
- ouzome, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1I like you Tony.
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