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Children forced to kneel on floor and pray to allah
worldnetdaily.com — Total stupidity coming in as usual from Great Britain... Phillips in Eng. thinks also that Sharia law should apply in the UK - hope he's the first one to lose his head...
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- nippinawassee, on 07/04/2008, -3/+39So goes the UK, so goes the rest of the countries who meekly bow their heads and follow the UK example. I am soooo glad this did not occur in the USA while my boys were in school. I would have taught them to say the Lord's prayer really loud over and over if they were forced to do this. And if that didn't work there would be a discussion. I cannot understand the bow your head and walk into the gas chamber attitude that so many countries are taking regarding the invasion of islamics. WHY? Whose country is it? Why are they allowing the takeover of their countries by these islamic invaders? What has happened in the past 35 years that makes people afraid to stand up and tell them: you have one week to get out of this country. PERIOD. It's THEIR country - just as the USA is OUR country. Can't abide by the way we live, then we'll escort you to the docks... whether you want to go or not. Amiserable situation - a sad situation when the liberals worldwise have so destroyed the backbones of their countrymen INCLUDING our country.
- PeppermintPig, on 07/05/2008, -5/+5You're conflating two issues here, though. Stating the case in terms of nationalism is insufficient to articulate the principle of the issue.
On the one hand, you are correctly identifying the problem of individuals and cultures that use force to make people do things against their will. However...
"It's THEIR country - just as the USA is OUR country. Can't abide by the way we live, then we'll escort you to the docks..."
If this is a free country, there should be no reason for people to leave the country just because they hold different values, provided they are not engaging in acts of force. Even then, there should be a means to deal with violations of liberty without resorting to extreme measures. You don't OWN the country any more than I do. You do, however, have absolute authority over your own person and property.. at least you should.
Fighting to rule others through government is a problem: "It's not fascism when we do it."- ChaplainDoug, on 07/05/2008, -1/+11Three of my ggg-grandfathers that I know of fought in the American Revolution and suffered to win our freedom. THIS IS MY COUNTRY.
Dozens of my family fought valiantly for the South during the Second War of Independence. THIS IS MY COUNTRY.
My grandfather fought in World War I and my other grandfather made military equipment for the war effort. THIS IS MY COUNTRY!
My father fought in Europe during World War II. THIS IS MY COUNTRY.
I spent seventeen years of my life working for the defense of this country. THIS IS MY COUNTRY.
Generations of my family have worked, suffered, and died to build America from the mid-1600s to today. THIS IS MY COUNTRY!
The Asians, Arabs, and muslims who have recently come to this country have done NOTHING nor have their ancestors done ANYTHING to build up this country. They come here, reap the benefits of my and my ancestor's blood, sweat, and tears and work against the biblical principles and the Bible, and the God of the Bible that made this country strong. THIS IS MY COUNTRY and I do have a right to say IF YOU CANNOT AFFIRM THE RELIGION AND VALUES THAT HAVE MADE THIS NATION GREAT, GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY!
Perhaps you PeppermintPig have no heritage in this nation's past or do not value the sacrifice of my forefathers. Most liberals hate this country (the godly parts of our history at least) and are glad to see homosexuals, abortionists, God-haters, and now muslims dismantling our culture brick by brick. You too can head north to Canada if that is your position. - PeppermintPig, on 07/06/2008, -8/+3"Three of my ggg-grandfathers that I know of fought in the American Revolution and suffered to win our freedom. THIS IS MY COUNTRY."
People are not the deeds of their ancestors. You might be proud of what they did, but that doesn't on its own establish a claim for you. I think you would agree with me that individuals must prove their honor/credibility by their own choices.
I am not a slave without will to the actions of others, and certainly not bound to the actions of my forefathers.
"Dozens of my family fought valiantly for the South during the Second War of Independence. THIS IS MY COUNTRY."
In regards to the war, for what it's worth, Lincoln was the aggressor. In perspective, I side with Lysander Spooner on the matter of violating the natural rights of men.
I would be careful not to set a bad precedent by claiming that a fight for something is therefore an entitlement to something, such as an abstract claim to possession of a country. That's nationalism, and it lays the groundwork for cognitive dissonance, refusing to consider the complex motivations of all the individuals who claim this to be their country, or to act in its name.
"I spent seventeen years of my life working for the defense of this country. THIS IS MY COUNTRY."
It's peculiar that you emphasize country, but not once do you mention liberty. Are you sure this is your country? Are you defending what the country was founded upon, or are you fighting for other interests?
"Generations of my family have worked, suffered, and died to build America from the mid-1600s to today. THIS IS MY COUNTRY!"
You're practically American royalty then...
"The Asians, Arabs, and muslims who have recently come to this country have done NOTHING nor have their ancestors done ANYTHING to build up this country. They come here, reap the benefits of my and my ancestor's blood, sweat, and tears and work against the biblical principles and the Bible, and the God of the Bible that made this country strong."
That's bigotry and racism right there.
"THIS IS MY COUNTRY and I do have a right to say IF YOU CANNOT AFFIRM THE RELIGION AND VALUES THAT HAVE MADE THIS NATION GREAT, GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY!"
I wonder how the native indians who survived the oft violent expansion of european immigrants feel about that. And if you retort that indians were violent too, then congratulations, you're one step closer to considering issues in CONTEXT.
Some of the first people who came to the US, the pilgrims, almost killed themselves by following a failed policy of centralized wealth redistribution. And today the same trend of theft has reared its ugly head. What have you been fighting for these last 17 years when the powers that be have openly flaunted an agenda of international police action. It's not exclusive to the democrats or republicans either.
"Perhaps you PeppermintPig have no heritage in this nation's past or do not value the sacrifice of my forefathers."
I don't feel compelled to brag about my lineage, but my gg-grandfather was a modest man who ran his own business here in the US.
"Most liberals hate this country (the godly parts of our history at least) and are glad to see homosexuals, abortionists, God-haters, and now muslims dismantling our culture brick by brick. You too can head north to Canada if that is your position."
Though it may be a minor point, I would rather critique liberal or conservative ideology itself than generalize about its advocates. Statist wealth redistribution is just as abhorrent as legislating morality, and regulating freedom of choice in the marketplace.
We might have more to agree upon if you recognized the real problems undermining the situation without resorting to bigoted ranting like so...
"homosexuals, abortionists, God-haters, and now muslims dismantling our culture brick by brick"
"You too can head north to Canada if that is your position."
Not sure if you follow current news, but we are not free. The government won't let people leave the country and renounce citizenship without extorting money from them. Just another brick in the wall.
I'd be more angry about what people have done to destroy the constitution (property rights, gun rights, freedom of speech, security from unwarranted invasions of privacy by government, etc) than how other people are choosing to live their lives.
Moderation of liberty inevitably leads to socialism, and despotism. Liberty is the one thing you cannot have if you do not grant it to others. I have my priorities in order. Do you?
And one last thing...
"You too can head north to Canada if that is your position."
There is greater patriotism in dissent than conformity. Please try to recognize what the founders of this country fought for. - USNavyBlue, on 07/06/2008, -2/+5God Bless - Chaplin Doug! I salute you, sir. My hats off to you and your family!!!!!!!!!!!! You sir are what makes this country great and I know of many more like you. I fear for my countrymen of today, just as our forefathers did of yesteryear and rightfully so. There will come a time in the very near future that people like US will have to "water that tree of liberty with the blood of more patriots" to keep this great country great as our founding forefathers fought so hard for!
"Posterity, you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it." John Adams - PeppermintPig, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1Since we're quoting figures of history USNavyBlue...
"If our fathers, in 1776, had acknowledged the principle that a majority had the right to rule the minority, we should never have become a nation; for they were in a small minority, as compared with those who claimed the right to rule over them." - Lysander Spooner
When you fight for a country as a member of its military, you may still have your will and sense of duty, which goes beyond merely following orders, but you do not set the contractual terms under which you serve. To claim an entitlement after the fact, as if something further is owed to you by abstractions such as country, or government, is unreliable because it depends on the actions of countless others. Many people will shake a soldier's hand when they see them in public, however.
It is a violation of principle to give of yourself, or your time, or wealth without having strings attached, which identifies why Chaplin Doug feels entitled. He will not say that the government cheated him, and in the context of his contractual agreement it has not, but he does attack other people for not supporting his service, particularly by projecting his hatred of foreigners who for practical intents and purposes could little know of his actions, and may not share his cultural beliefs. Nor does he well discriminate in his hatred amongst other citizens who do not share his beliefs, whatever those other beliefs may be. Here he describes groups of people, such as liberals, or muslims as a convenience for his disgust.
"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. " - Heinlein
That's the essence of the problem. Not that people merely believe a thing, but they believe it to the extent that they feel it must be imposed upon other people. These justifications come in many forms, just as 'the greater good', or even 'patriotism'. It makes it easier for us to see the common folly in acting not in principle, but in good intentions. In a related note, Chaplin Doug made a thorough claim of lineage and what he considers patriotic, but uttered little to show he actually supports freedom.
"In the United States, doing good has come to be, like patriotism, a favorite device of persons with something to sell." - Mencken
You may bury my comments but you cannot deny the rationale without asserting to have chosen ignorance over consideration if you give no address to the arguments. These are meant to be challenging statements. People are fond of claiming a possession of the truth: I can only claim to be the authority of my own opinions and look to debating and discussion to discover what the truth appears to be.
"The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." - Mencken
To make the point again, I find it interesting that people attack others for their beliefs, but tend to ignore two things...
1. The danger of beliefs as imposed imposed through force.
2. How common the use of force is, despite what beliefs are imposed.
"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
- ChaplainDoug, on 07/05/2008, -1/+11Three of my ggg-grandfathers that I know of fought in the American Revolution and suffered to win our freedom. THIS IS MY COUNTRY.
- victorypup, on 07/05/2008, -5/+3
This story coming to a neighborhood near you. Thanks to Judas George and company. We in America have this "Head in the Sand" attitude, and we keep saying it can't happen here. Duh, we are importing these people and setting them up in business all over the country. Thanks a lot Judas George. - durlek, on 07/06/2008, -1/+4Give liberty and freedom to the Islamists in your country and they’ll out-breed you, become a majority, and vote in Sharia law. But modern multi-culturalist policy makers tell us that we must respect those who worship Satan and embrace their culture for the sake of “diversity”. British children (and British adults) must be taught to properly respect, worship and submit to the god of the pedophile pirate. This is the natural and inevitable result of welcoming peaceful muslims to settle in your Christian majority country. Many muslim countries WERE where Britain and much of Europe IS now. But European citizens are actually “going the extra mile” by bankrupting themselves ... financing the Islamic invasion through a multitude of generous welfare programs for the “immigrants”.
- PeppermintPig, on 07/06/2008, -4/+1You need to fight back against tyranny, whether it comes from religious intolerance or the state. Since you're not willing to do that and would rather make broadbrush statements about muslims, you're actually contributing to the situation you claim to be against.
- PeppermintPig, on 07/05/2008, -5/+5You're conflating two issues here, though. Stating the case in terms of nationalism is insufficient to articulate the principle of the issue.
- fwelch, on 07/04/2008, -5/+32We as Americans are in danger but we have time to correct the problem.
Unless we as Americans keep voting for those that take the law into
their own hands and try to change our Constitution. One of many
examples: Trial lawyers becoming politicians.
Like I have said before. Good by Britain!!!!!!!!!!!!- victorypup, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7It looks like the American people want to correct it by electing Obomber for change. LOL, we aren't going to correct anything.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/08/2008, -1/+0vp', stay the course Bro'-
(we still got lights)
- SOLGAARD, on 07/08/2008, -1/+0vp', stay the course Bro'-
- victorypup, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7It looks like the American people want to correct it by electing Obomber for change. LOL, we aren't going to correct anything.
- jp111, on 07/04/2008, -3/+27Why is it you Brits did not have all this diversity training when Indians started coming there with their religion? All of a sudden this gutter religion....I mean the religion of peace, shows up and your kids are being punnished for not adhering to it.
If you were a Moozlum country you could be jailed.....Sharia law is recommended by your chief judge - burn him at the stake!
They've taken over a large part of London, the mayor says run away when violence happens.......WTF, I thought you stood taller than that.
These whackjobs are getting a foothold here, but it'll only go so far - at least our second amendment still stands. Me thinks it'll be exercised quite a bit in the near future! - fwelch, on 07/04/2008, -6/+33A little info on maybe our future President!
Here is a list of Barack Hussein Obama's accomplishments:
* He voted against banning partial birth abortion.
* He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.
* Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.
* In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing.
* Say s he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair.
* Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college.
* His religious co nvic tions are very murky.
* He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
* Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations.
* Opposed the Patriot Act.
* First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform.
* Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.
* Supports universal health-care.
* Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.
* Supports granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
* Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.
* Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.
* Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.
* Wants to make the minimum wage a 'living wage'.
* Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.
* Opposed to any efforts to Priv atize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid.
* He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax
* He voted No on repealing the 'Death' Tax.
* He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax.
* Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded.
* He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.- JanHus, on 07/05/2008, -1/+15Don't forget he wants to establish a Hitler Youth, forcing students to enlist in one of his administration-controlled programs if they want to graduate from high school or college.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7Obama said "We will create new opportunities for you to serve and you will be directed on what to do.".
Both the O's want public service, don't chase money, etc. He should pay a windfall profits tax on his book sales. It was too much. Now that he got is 1.25 million loan sweetheart deal from the Northern Trust bank he wants you to stay poor and serve the masters.
And when all is said and done the indoctrinated youth of today love him.
The Evengelical crap by the MSM is BS. They know what he is. The MSM is inventing these numbers so you can feel good about 'joining the crowd'.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7Obama said "We will create new opportunities for you to serve and you will be directed on what to do.".
- DuggDowner, on 07/05/2008, -9/+4Nice copy and paste. Let me know if you ever have an original thought.
- ginger007, on 07/05/2008, -2/+9why don't you reply with a thought of your own or at least try. you seem to use this post for cut downs.
truth about your presidental choice must have hit a nerve. - fwelch, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6ginger007
I'm very happy that you enjoyed my stats that I placed
up for your eye balls to look at. Thank you for you very
nice complements. You da man or woman or??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - fwelch, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6Dugg here is an original thought for ya........
We as Americans are in danger but we have time to correct the problem.
Unless we as Americans keep voting for those that take the law into
their own hands and try to change our Constitution. One of many
examples: Trial lawyers becoming politicians.
Like I have said before. Good by Britain!!!!!!!!!!!!
I certainly hope this comes up to standards. I mean do I get "c" grade?
But you and I really know that the stats above on Obama kinda grabs in
the shorts doesn't it you "O" lover you!!! I mean come on 21 diggs. - DuggDowner, on 07/05/2008, -5/+1John Adams was a trial lawyer who defended British troops involved in the Boston Massacre. If it wasn't for his leadership America would not have survived past the early 19th century. Abraham Lincoln was also a trial lawyer and he saved our country from self-destruction. You really have no clue what you're talking about, so I'd say you get an "F" grade.
- eaglehigh, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Lincoln was a two bit dictator. Secession was not about "self-destruction", it was a determination by the South that they needed to go their own way. Hell, Lincoln wanted to ship Negroes back to Africa, he did not want them here (Freetown??). Slavery would have ended anyways.
- ginger007, on 07/05/2008, -2/+9why don't you reply with a thought of your own or at least try. you seem to use this post for cut downs.
- JanHus, on 07/05/2008, -1/+15Don't forget he wants to establish a Hitler Youth, forcing students to enlist in one of his administration-controlled programs if they want to graduate from high school or college.
- muerafidel, on 07/04/2008, -3/+31It wasn't many years ago that there was the saying: the sun never sets on england, because they had possessions all around the world.
Look at them now, not even a threat of their former self. They are being taken from within, and seems, willingly.
If you think that can not happen here, you are sadly mistaken.- AThoughtOrTwo, on 07/05/2008, -0/+16It was, "The sun never sets on the BRITISH EMPIRE" but it was true.
While all the British (and Scottish, Welsh and Irish too) are firmly against this and rebel as much as they can - their ruling governments and the elites in it seem to be saying, "FULL STEAM AHEAD". "bow, kowtow and do it RIGHT, or else."
As you know, in the UK - they are SUBJECTS of the crown - NOT CITIZENS, so there is only so much they can do.- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5The Falkland Island revolt is starting up again. Let's watch what Britian does. They ought to move the Islama-whakjobs there.
- USNavyBlue, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2There is some hope in Britain. The natives are FED UP with there global elite leadership, just as Americans are!!! This is no accident that this is happening to all Western Countries, not just Britain and America, but ALL!
The British National Party is gaining huge votes because of this invasion against the native British. GO BNP!
Link: http://www.bnp.org.uk/
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 07/05/2008, -0/+16It was, "The sun never sets on the BRITISH EMPIRE" but it was true.
- Steyr95, on 07/05/2008, -5/+26It doesn't matter what continent they're on, Liberals are Liberals. They are the epitome of traitors. The big question is how long will normal people wait until putting these bastards on the end of a rope?
- lajaw, on 07/05/2008, -3/+26Why is everyone afraid of the Muslims? Just dip your bullets in pig blood before you shoot one.
- DrJen, on 07/05/2008, -2/+21Of course, that is what was done in WW I by the Brits. And, it worked.
To anyone who thinks that such action is unkind, it reduced the number of deaths. Fewer Muslims dead means a higher respect for human life. - nippinawassee, on 07/05/2008, -1/+18Ohhhh how inhumane...to the pig! I agree totally with this suggestion - as was pointed out it worked once before - they also took pig skins and wrapped some bodies in them before burial - for such an ignorant, STUPID religion to believe something like this, they're better off underground (in a grave). Anyone in this day and age who blindly follows and worships a cretin such as muhummad is a danger to any and all societies - ignorant? Nope - stupid. With all the information sources available today with facts, etc., on anything and everything, there's NO excuse for anyone to blindly follow such a pathetic warped individual. Soooo, pig fat it is! I said long ago that telling the prisoners they were going to slip a little pig fat into the food at the prisons if they continued complaining - would end the complaints. I have absolutely NO compassion for anyone this stupid - not ignorant - STUPID.
- YankeeAvenger, on 07/05/2008, -1/+9How about a 21st century version of how the U.S. military got Viet Cong spies to talk? Then, they would take several up in a helicopter and push them out one by one until the others started to sing like canaries. Today we could take captured terrorists like the ones at Guantanamo-terrorists the Lib and SCOTUS traitors want to give rights reserved for U.S. citizens-dress them in women's clothing with burkas made of pigskin, and in no time their would be no place on the planet where Al-qaida members could hide!
- jesusis1, on 07/06/2008, -0/+4Let's be nice. Let's give the Middle Eastern muslim countries a few brand new airliners. Nicely equipped with good leather (pig skin) seats. Just don't tell em' what kind of leather the seats are.
- DrJen, on 07/05/2008, -2/+21Of course, that is what was done in WW I by the Brits. And, it worked.
- G3eeze, on 07/05/2008, -1/+21When I attended school, I was NEVER taught about any religions. The presumptions were that the indoctrination into religion was the pervue of the parents, not the school. How or why any person prays is neither important nor the business of anyone other than the person so praying. Why the indoctrination into Muslim prayer? Duh, NO - BIG BIG DUH. To insinuate that it is a religion that should be studied and perhaps become involved in. There is no other reason to do this. Why is it being allowed?!!! Because most public servants only serve mamon (money) and do not want to rock theboat. If you stand up and complain about this, you are branded a bigot/racist/islamophobe and worse. In my opinion, the religion is a gutter religion and when women join up and loose the freedoms they otherwise would normally enjoy, it will be too late for them!!! Those of you who are cowards in this regard will get what you have sown. I will die with a gun in my hand and dead muslims all around me when they have come to arrest me for refusal to become one of Satans spawn. How many of you are willing to die to remain free?
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 07/05/2008, -0/+9If you ever run across any old school books at a garage sale - look inside one. I have geography and history books written preWWI and it is amazing how they speak of the "mohammadeans."
"they take and live by the sword."
"all but the highest ranking in the tribe live in abject poverty."
"their women are unseen and unspoken of."
"they are at constant war between themselves" and "frequent outbreaks cost many lives each year."
"When traveling there, it is wisest to hire bodyguards."
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 07/05/2008, -0/+9If you ever run across any old school books at a garage sale - look inside one. I have geography and history books written preWWI and it is amazing how they speak of the "mohammadeans."
- mdowse, on 07/05/2008, -0/+26There comes a time when civil disobedience is appropriate and encouraged. This is one of those cases. These students should be celebrated for standing up for what they believe.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+12I'm sure you will have a bunch of Moooslims join all the celebrating of these kids as well. After all, we know the religion of peace is so open to diversity!
So, when the Indians starting showing up I'm guessing you Brits were inflicted with Hinduism as well! Oh, no! Well why not! - watnext, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8Some of you may remember Henry David Thoreau. He was one of the early New England transcendentalists famous for his book about his cabin on Walden Pond. Well, he also wrote an essay called Civil Disobedience. It never reached the MSM then or is seldom if ever referred to. My suggestion is to go on-line or to the local library and read the essay. His thoughts echoed mdowse's.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+12I'm sure you will have a bunch of Moooslims join all the celebrating of these kids as well. After all, we know the religion of peace is so open to diversity!
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -3/+10All the Arab books around the world surely note Jews came from monkeys and pigs! Hell, draw a cartoon of Moooohhahamid and they going on a killing rampage. Ok, I'll convert immediately to the religion of peace. Isn't Bush such a putz.
- namwarts, on 07/05/2008, -5/+26If my kid's school wanted him to behave like a Muslim, I'd tell him to bomb it.
- Salesti, on 07/05/2008, -2/+12I hugged you just now.
- Salesti, on 07/05/2008, -2/+14That was brilliant.
- whyknot2k, on 07/05/2008, -1/+12If I could digg you twice I would.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/05/2008, -1/+11(lol) way-humorous
- Libertarian, on 07/05/2008, -2/+27Too bad the Brits gave up their guns. Poor bastards could use them.
- watnext, on 07/05/2008, -0/+14Another reason to keep anyone from tampering with our Second Ammendment
- nippinawassee, on 07/05/2008, -0/+9Guns, knives, anything that could be used as a weapon. I figure next they'll be carting all rocks over the size of a pebble out of G.Britain as it could be used as a weapon. I don't know how the Brits were so successful in the past... oh yeah I do - they had weapons and they used them on those that were deserving. Such a weak kneed bunch.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+5At the outset of WWII the Brits were sent between 2 and 10 million guns from the US population with the promise of return. After WWI the British gov collected them and dumped them into the Atlantic ocean.
- USNavyBlue, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2For that action alone the British Parliament gets what it deserves because when Islam takes over the joint and they are almost there, the jerks in Parliament that helped this along will be the FIRST ONES TO GO AND BEHEADED TO BOOT. How is that for irony. Gated communities can't protect the global elite from this forever.
- hugothecommie, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3Yeah, they outlawed guns. Now what they do is they just cut up their victims so no one can identify them. Knife attacks is out of control there. People will kill with what ever they can get their hands on. Liberals always think they can change the World and how mankind thinks. Not going to happen.
- Rikety, on 07/05/2008, -2/+14There comes a time when such treasonous acts that harm the human spirit, a very heavy retribution must needs be administered to those who would subvert our children and attempt to harm our society. Forcing Muslim prayer is definitely one of those.
There is no punishment bad enough for them. Perhaps spreading pigs grease all over their bodies, stuffing it down their throats, maybe restraining them for 24 hours so they can't wash it off...significant? - Argentian, on 07/05/2008, -1/+11Maybe a few hundred smacks on the bare feet with a bamboo cane would take her mind off of the screwing up of young minds? She deserves at least that retribution.
- DrReaper, on 07/05/2008, -2/+15To think that England fought the first crusade. England of today and england in history are as different as night and day. I guess the parents don't get a say in what the schools teach in england either.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7England fought the crusades because the Muzlumz invaded Europe. Check your history, look at Frnce and Spain. Hell, Google the old mosques that were put there after the Arab invasion.
- KJeffV, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2www.ConservativeBookClub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6805
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7England fought the crusades because the Muzlumz invaded Europe. Check your history, look at Frnce and Spain. Hell, Google the old mosques that were put there after the Arab invasion.
- downs1, on 07/05/2008, -1/+14Teaching "about" a religion is one thing, but forcing someone to pray to a god not worshiped by that child or his or her family is really diabolical. This clearly shows the spiritual direction of the UK and those in the British judicial system who are pressing for Shari'a Law. The first commandment of the Judeo-Christian faith is "You shall have no other gods before Me." How much clearer can that be? Many people in England are rather nominal Christians; however, if you ask them what their religious persuasion is, many have been baptized in the Church of England and will tell you "Christian," or "Anglican." Therefore, to demand that someone participate in a religious practice of another faith (whose god is NOT the same) is blasphemous, arrogant and worthy of severe administrative punishment. By the same token, for a superior to condone or cover up such an action is likewise worthy of punishment. If a Muslim were forced to perform such an act of worship, in some venues that individual could be killed. Wake up America, there are reports that this is also happening here right under our noses!
- rearlgrant, on 07/05/2008, -3/+1In fact in happened to me as a child -- I was forced to pray in public school. One of the (many) reasons I'm not a Christian any more.
- hugothecommie, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I don't know what school you went to but I bet I am older than you and I never ever saw anyone forced to bow down and pray. You might have been asked to bow your head and pray but most kids didn't.
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I know some who just did "the respectful silence" while the rest prayed or not as they saw fit.
- rearlgrant, on 07/05/2008, -3/+1In fact in happened to me as a child -- I was forced to pray in public school. One of the (many) reasons I'm not a Christian any more.
- nutz2u2, on 07/05/2008, -1/+14Fire those responsible for this nonsense.
- Ricky81682, on 07/05/2008, -10/+3Remember this article next time someone argues for Christian prayers in schools.
- congresssucks, on 07/05/2008, -2/+16Christians prayers were never mandatory.
- jb1965, on 07/05/2008, -2/+8I remember school prayer in the public schools. I remember students going through the motions. I remember students leaving the room because it was against their religion (JW, atheist, whatever). I know damned well none of them got detention, expelled or missed their refreshment break for not submitting the the Christian call to prayer"!
Remember this article when you're forced to leave your work station and face Mecca 5 times a day for the Sharia mandated call to prayer because what happens in the UK today will happen here in 10 years!
Unless of course we can sweep enough PC libs out of office and put this union of sovereign states back on the course of a constitutionally limited republic!- ChaplainDoug, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3"Union of sovereign states" and a "constitutionally limited republic"? That is a dream of mine as well. Dozens of my ancestors fought for the same dream in 1861-1865. Their dream (which was the intent of the original Founders) was replaced with the ever burgeoning, all-powerful central government and mess we have today. God bless and keep dreaming and praying.
Deo Vindice - USNavyBlue, on 07/06/2008, -1/+1ChaplinDoug: I wish I could have dugg you a thousand times over for that whole paragraph!!!!! God Bless - most people don't realize since the War of Northern Aggression and the deliberate actions of Abe Lincoln (honest Abe my tale!) that the fruit is now baring its ugliness and now the whole entire USA is experiencing what the South did! Oh - the irony!
However, I don't think the Yankees - will be able to pin point the place in history as to what went wrong today and now the USA is on verge of a total Federal Police State - they can thank Lincoln for it.
- ChaplainDoug, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3"Union of sovereign states" and a "constitutionally limited republic"? That is a dream of mine as well. Dozens of my ancestors fought for the same dream in 1861-1865. Their dream (which was the intent of the original Founders) was replaced with the ever burgeoning, all-powerful central government and mess we have today. God bless and keep dreaming and praying.
- OyVay, on 07/05/2008, -1/+14I wonder if we can expect to hear the teacher lie her way out of this in order to keep her job. After all, a Muslim, according to the Quoran, does not have to tell the truth to those belonging to another faith.
We don't honestly think for a moment the kids were lying.
Brits: Get your "stiff upper lip" back! Quit being milquetoast for your Muslim invaders. Get a clue if you don't want your beer and spirits taken away from you and replaced with the call to prayer five times a day and your women running around with only their eyes peering through the top of their burkas.
By birthrate, political jockying and now, by childhood indoctrination techniques, you are being conquered.
Tell the Archbishop that if he wants Shari'a law so badly he should move to Saudi Arabia or Iran. England is a sovereign nation with a rich, glorious history. Don't loose sight of that fact. You are ruled by English Law, not Islamic law! Whoever lives on your sovereign soil is subject to your Queen, your Prime Minister, and your Parliment, PERIOD. If Muslims living in England, Scotland or Ireland want Islamic law they can move back to any Muslim country they choose.
Oh..and I'd advise you not to let your Muslim students study anything with the word "nuclear" associated with it.
You folks are smarter than this..don't put up with this rubbish.
You should make those kids national heroes and put their faces on billboards as symbols of religious freedom, freedom you still have...
At least for a little while longer, unless you do something soon.
.- yfiaj, on 07/05/2008, -1/+10the leftist media will say precisely nothing
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Have you read the Netherlands (home of Theodore Van Gogh and the cartoons) has BANNED certain people from taking those NUCLEAR classes - just as you suggested?
- whyknot2k, on 07/05/2008, -1/+17Wonder what the leftist media will have to say about this. You know if it was kids being forced to pray to the God of the Bible, the media would go into diarrhea panic. When it's the muslim religion, though, they don't seem to mind.
- USNavyBlue, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2Thats because of WHO OWNS THE MSM. In America and Britain they are one in the same - the owners are an alien force with alien goals unknown to most of the public. Go look up who OWNS the MSM and you will be shocked!
- meeksam, on 07/05/2008, -2/+5I believe the Globalists are trying to use the different religions as a way to get everybody fighting and at each others throats and focusing on differences rather than the beliefs we hold common. After all, it's the goal of the Globalist bankers, etc, to get everyone fighting and out of unity with God and each other.United we stand divided we fall.
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 07/05/2008, -1/+10More likely, to get people to STOP believing in ANY GOD. If this weren't they way they WANT to go, why would there be PUNISHMENTS for those who don't go along with their program? WHY is it a *hate crime* against a moslem, but not a *hate crime* against a Christian?
So, if they fear any outward response to religion, sooner or later, they can be united as atheists.- meeksam, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1It was only suppose to be a school activity and it was probably a liberal teacher that wasn't even a muslim. That's the Devils work to try to get everyone to hate God if he can
- ChaplainDoug, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4Just what do Christians hold in common with muslims? Islam has a different god, who had no son. Islam has a different book with grossly divergent values and directives to those of the Bible. Christianity desires to see the world won by God's Holy Spirit and the love of Christ. Islam wants it conquered by the sword (beheading). Christianity liberates all humans, whereas islam subjugates all, especially the woman. Christians (the biblical type) have had their sins atoned by Christ. Muslims blow people up in the hopes that they MIGHT have atonement.
The only thing Christianity and islam have in common is that both see the other's religion as totally incompatible with itself. This of course is the only thing on which we agree.- meeksam, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Yes, you are right about that, but as Christians we are suppose to be examples of the love of Christ which means don't deny your faith but show them how to act right.
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 07/05/2008, -1/+10More likely, to get people to STOP believing in ANY GOD. If this weren't they way they WANT to go, why would there be PUNISHMENTS for those who don't go along with their program? WHY is it a *hate crime* against a moslem, but not a *hate crime* against a Christian?
- mortification71, on 07/05/2008, -1/+14If this incident occurred in any Muslim Nation on earth (i.e. the reverse...Kids forced to pray to the Christian God) the Muslim nation would take it as a declaration of WAR.
Muslims have declared War on England and have received an anaemic, lukewarm reaction. They know that this response is a tacit surrender from a nation afraid of offending it's deadly enemies.
Mother England will survive...but only as a cowed concubine of the paedophile-prophet. Let other formerly Christian Nations take note as to the fate that awaits those who turn their backs on Christ Jesus.
Freedom in Christ or slavery to the illiterate camel herding paedophile and serial killer, Mohammed- jb1965, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6Just think about the teacher in Africa who named a teddy bear Muhammed! She was within inches of being beaten to death by folloowers of the "religion of peace"!
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4Remember who wins, in the end!
- yaridanjo, on 07/05/2008, -13/+4WND is just trying to get some religious hatred fired up. Hate thy neighbor, is that what Christ taught?
- fishunlarge, on 07/05/2008, -5/+11No, Christ didn't say hate your neighbor but He also didn't say play patty cake with Satan either!
- SOLGAARD, on 07/05/2008, -6/+9@ yaridanjo
It isn't hatred, (it's common sense)
Christian beliefs aren't hoisted upon any student, anywhere.
What's good for the goose... - JimmySpaza, on 07/05/2008, -6/+5WND is simply reporting what has occurred. Why do you hate the truth?
- LadyAmerica, on 07/06/2008, -3/+2From some other posts he's made, I think Yaridanjo is a Muslim-apologist, or maybe a Muslim. That's probably why he thinks the way he does.
- meeksam, on 07/05/2008, -5/+3
That's what I mean,Christians don't have to be forced to worship another another God, neither do Muslims or Jews,Everyone has their own kind of faith. It seems to me that for years the religions have agreed to disagree about certain things and went about their business. There are some Muslims countries that don't have that ball team mentality, We're better than them". We need to stay away from stero typing people from other religions.- kuffar, on 07/05/2008, -1/+7And you sir are a sickening apologist for a bunch of murderous thugs that parade around as 'peaceful'. Pigslam is evil, intolerant and hypocritical. Those who follow pigslam follow a demented pedophile (which is still legally praticed today in the mid-east) who teachs his followers that satan is in your nose, you should drink camel piss, and you can only wipe you ass with your left hand. This 'peaceful' religion also teaches maiming, cutting off heads and stoning women. If your in America, go back, there are many Americans that are sick and tired of you filthy muslims and your barbaric ways.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7Right! Moozlims are forcing their religion on everyone, new to Nigeria, Indonesia, etc. Jews are to be killed under all circumstanes according to Islam. All others convert or die (beheaded). When a book teaches these whackjobs to inflict Islam of everyone under all matters, yes it is stereotyping.......BECAUSE IT IS TRUE, Meeksam.
Churchill " Appeasement simply means you're the last one in the swamp the crocodile eats.". - meeksam, on 07/06/2008, -3/+1yeah, the Shariahs are like that, but they can't all be like that.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7Right! Moozlims are forcing their religion on everyone, new to Nigeria, Indonesia, etc. Jews are to be killed under all circumstanes according to Islam. All others convert or die (beheaded). When a book teaches these whackjobs to inflict Islam of everyone under all matters, yes it is stereotyping.......BECAUSE IT IS TRUE, Meeksam.
- Mom2GIQM, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2MeekSam: I don't think you understand Islam at all. "Everyone has their own kind of faith." reveals your ignorance. And such ignorance is deadly. Don't be so naive. Islam is and always has been about world domination which includes death, taxes, and servitude of the non-Muslims. Just remember when you hear Muslims speak, the Devil has no qualms about lying to you. He has no moral obligation to be honest...and certainly neither his followers the Muslims.
- kuffar, on 07/05/2008, -1/+7And you sir are a sickening apologist for a bunch of murderous thugs that parade around as 'peaceful'. Pigslam is evil, intolerant and hypocritical. Those who follow pigslam follow a demented pedophile (which is still legally praticed today in the mid-east) who teachs his followers that satan is in your nose, you should drink camel piss, and you can only wipe you ass with your left hand. This 'peaceful' religion also teaches maiming, cutting off heads and stoning women. If your in America, go back, there are many Americans that are sick and tired of you filthy muslims and your barbaric ways.
- kuffar, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7The pandering politicians in the USA and UK refuse to stand on the basis that our countries are Christian nations. Now Nobama is saying we are not a christian nation, I suppose Nobama will start our conversion as a nation to Pigslam. From what I have seen in recent history, the only nations that convert to pigslam do so under the point of a sword or murderous actions by terrorists. If I were Jewish in America or the UK, I would be very very afraid that our next commander in chief would have been taught that I'm an ape or pig. As for infidel's, the followers of pigslam will cut your head off as seen in the many 'tolerant' mid-east countries. The first sign that we are in big trouble will be when our politicians come for our guns 'that we cling to'. Remember, dipping bullets in pigs blood before shooting a follower of pigslam worked to put down the muslim insurrection in the Philippians in the early 1900's. I pray that we never have to come to that here, but I will be ready to do my part should the followers of pigslam begin to take my freedoms away.
- linux6994, on 07/05/2008, -2/+15Praying to allah the arabian moon god of all things is a joke. A whole religion based on the wims of a mad man, criminal, rapist, thug. Today mohamed would be considered a gang-banger with forcing stupid cruel rules on any neighborhood he forces himself on.
- raybojabo, on 07/05/2008, -1/+13One question? After being forced to pray to Allah, were they instructed to behead all the gay kids, and stone all the sluts?
- OyVay, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4The bell rang for recess.
- KJeffV, on 07/06/2008, -0/+4Excellent!
- hugothecommie, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3NO! That comes in the next lesson.
- OyVay, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4The bell rang for recess.
- Ruler4you, on 07/05/2008, -1/+14First break down the values, then break down the moralities, then introduce your dogma and enforce it's policies, then punish the hesitant in the view of those that might be just on the other side of the line and you can convince 90% of the people it's better to do your bidding than to have a free mind and a free heart.
I don't know these boys, but I'm as proud of them as I would be of my own for such a stand. Dhimmitude suits the weak of mind and of heart. That's why our schools are already on board with islam. - mike8668, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8Detention first, beheadings to follow...Wake up Blokes
- kemojr, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8Any politician or educator that advocates forcing a child to bow to Allah should have his fat behind kicked. I can't imagine what kind of maxed out zoon dweebs would tolerate this kind of crap. If Britain doesn't kick these idiots out of their educational system it will pay a heavy price.
- CCoburn3, on 07/05/2008, -2/+10So Britian has come full circle. Christians are to pray to heathen gods or be punished. No wonder Britian is about to disappear into the waiting gullet of "Europe".
- LadyAmerica, on 07/06/2008, -0/+4Not "Europe", "Eurabia." (Bat Yeor's term for an Islamized Europe - by the way, read some of her books for an education in what this will mean for us.)
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1AMAZING woman and AMAZING BOOKS! She pulls NO punches at all. NO PC. Refreshing for those of us that haven't grown up with this crap.
- LadyAmerica, on 07/06/2008, -0/+4Not "Europe", "Eurabia." (Bat Yeor's term for an Islamized Europe - by the way, read some of her books for an education in what this will mean for us.)
- TVChick, on 07/05/2008, -0/+10Forcing anyone to pray to any one that they don't believe it and/or worship is equally BS.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7No other religion is forced to be exercised. The penalty in Egypt, Saudi Arabia and a number of mideast and North African countries for not following or trying to convert to another religion is death.
Funny, I see plenty of women teachers forcing Islam crap on people. In the Mooozlim countries there are no women teachers; women do not work. Gays are put to death.
BRING ON THE SHARIA LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reap what you sow, you dummies.
Wait until the Mooozzies tell you it's okay for your 7 year old daughter to marry. Mooohahamid the pervert married one. The Saudi clerics ruled that was now okay for them to marry NOW. - jb1965, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7Don't think it won't happen here if the liberals get there way! There are already public schools teaching students how to practice Islam! It's only a matter of time before the America hating libs turn western civilization's worst enemy loose on the publicly funded indoctination centers!
If you don't want this BS getting any worse here start voting out ANY liberal you can!- KJeffV, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2...incl'g those with (R) following their worthless names!
- hugothecommie, on 07/06/2008, -1/+3Liberals actually do believe they will be given a pass when Allah comes knocking on their door. But because they believe in all this harmony and love one another crap they will actually be the first ones beheaded. Those of us with guns know better. We just can't keep protecting them. Let them be eliminated from the gene pool.
- jp111, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7No other religion is forced to be exercised. The penalty in Egypt, Saudi Arabia and a number of mideast and North African countries for not following or trying to convert to another religion is death.
- ginger007, on 07/05/2008, -2/+5I would never force anyone to pray to Jesus because I know He didn't teach that. I don't think anyone especially children should be forced to align with anything of religious nature that isn't approved by parents. I also think that teachers should discuss ideas with parents before a program is initiated in the class room. Children are given to parents and they should be the ones to decide the way to raise them . I hope all will try to think in terms of family, church and civic future when choosing a person to vote in as our commander in chief. God have mercy if we allow our votes to be decided by the word " change" when we don't have any idea what change means in terms of government.
- DuggDowner, on 07/05/2008, -3/+2More ignorant nonsense from a psuedo-Christian Jesus would be ashamed to have as a follower.
- LadyAmerica, on 07/06/2008, -3/+1Ginger, good post. Don't be bothered by the above snide comment by DuggDowner - he's not in your league!
- PeppermintPig, on 07/06/2008, -2/+1Christians should, by nature, be skeptical of all government. It's emphasized in the bible itself, including such statements as 'render unto caesar...'. You can hope all you want that someone gets into political office who appeals to you, but that should not be what you strive for, because it's akin to choosing a master to lord over the slaves, and for some people it becomes an obsession that takes time away from more important things. Using the force of government to effect change is the SOURCE of trouble.
- jb1965, on 07/05/2008, -2/+5Wake up America! What happens today in the UK will happen here in less than 10 years!!!
- OyVay, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3The radicals are already planting these demon seeds in the U.S. by building Islamic schools.
If America doesn't want Islam being the only religion free to indoctrinate or proselytize it needs to re-discover its Constitution and allow Christianity and Judaism "equal time" to discuss its views with America's youth culture.
But if Christians aren't willing to "die" for their religious convictions they sure as Hades aren't able to live for them, either.
God help us.
- OyVay, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3The radicals are already planting these demon seeds in the U.S. by building Islamic schools.
- oldamerican, on 07/05/2008, -3/+3I'm proposing September 11, 2008,"National Pork Day". I'ts the day we show the islam, our government and pigslam appeasers enough is enough. I for one will hang a pigs head on the nearest mosque door and ask others to do the same. Anyone with a drop of common sense knows where this going. So lets get it on and get r done. Any takers?
- tbullsr, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0Oh yes, I am in Brother.
- mcrunch2, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4Forcing kids to do the actions? Whatever happened to pictures or even film? I thought TV was supposed to be our savior? I think even the dimmest of kids can imagine someone kneeling on a mat and babling in another language.
From the writing about the year being ended and no one to contact, sounds like another 'assembly' conducted right at the end of the year so parents wouldn't have time to respond as was done in Houston.
Yea for those kids who stood up! They should get a hero's parade. - spinningplates2, on 07/05/2008, -4/+5Why do the abortion lovers and Gay sex fiends hate Christianity? Let me explain by using a very old saying: "The enemy of MY enemy is my friend." See Satan is behind the evil in this country and the false religion of Islam. They are both working together to bring down Christ. They will fail because they are wrong but still this explains why two groups that "hate" each other, Gays and Muslims, are equal in their hate for Christians. They really are hating God because they feel they should be worshiped.
- KCLorelei39, on 07/05/2008, -3/+4.....where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Cor 3:17
If people don't believe in the Lord...they'll believe in anything.
Allah is NOT Elyon. (the Most High God, Creator and owner of heaven and earth)
As Britain is losing its Light, and its Way, so will America and other nations once populated with God's children. Without the Lord, there is no freedom.
Those children that stood for their faith shine with His Light! May God use this incident to open the eyes of those being led to the slaughter.- LadyAmerica, on 07/06/2008, -1/+3Amen to that!
- Kizilbash, on 07/05/2008, -3/+2Post any article critical of Islam and all the scum comes out of the woodwork spouting disgusting crap.
- OyVay, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4If Christians were as feared as radical Islamic fundamentalists prejudicial towards any relgious persuasion save their own, 7th century interpretation of it those in their ranks would be far less likely to "mess with the U.S" but it seems, sadly, that America's Christians, having no persecution affect them for hundreds of years have forgotten how their ancestors endured great afflictions for their faith.
Christians would do well to read Foxes' Book of Martyrs once in a while if they can stomach it, to remind themselves that if they have so treated the Master of the House, how much more shall they His servants?
Christians, of all faiths, have the least reason to fear death, if they are genuinely saved. This isn't to suggest they ought to have a "martyr-complex" by any means, though, it just means that believers ought to have no reason to fear fire, peril, or sword, because they are not staking their future on what is here and now but what was promised them then and there.
There is a "THERE" there, because God is not a man, that He should lie, nor the son of man that he should repent.
Hath he said, and shall He not do? Or hath He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Billions of people believe in Islam but how many among them have ever done serious study comparing their faith's essential doctrines, and the philosophical and rational underpinnings, as well as the evidence of their faith?
I well imagine that students of the Quran may have had cursory introduction with studying the tenants of other faiths but I would imagine relatively few among them ever gain the opportunity to examine other faiths in an atmosphere completely free of the threat of violence coming upon them if they were so engaged.
Interestingly enough, the Jewish faith claims Yahveh (Elohim, Adonai) as their God; and Jesus, the God of Christianity, claimed a special relationship with the Jewish Yahveh, that He was, in fact, the special Son of Yahveh.
Thus does Christianities' very founder make over and over and over again the specific claim to being the "Messiah" of the Old Testament Jewish promise and prophecy.
But the orthodox Jews of today and of time past who refused to receive Him continued to invent figments concerning their Messiah, making Him out to be only a political and military ruler who would hoist the Jewish nation on His shoulders and give them rulership over the world.
They had almost no concept of Isaiah 53 being equally a description of the Messiah they were promised to receive.
A suffering Messiah seems weak and beggerly. Not the kind of Savior we'd naturally think could deliver us from our own weak and beggerly selves.
But if He rose again three days later, now THAT is a feat none of the Jewish prophets accomplished and the fact that Mohammad is said to have "ascended" without resurrection renders their story highly dubious on its face, as it merely appears to borrow from the Christian Gospel (as the Quran also borrows from the Old Testament) in order to "sex up" their prophet's lifetime achievements.
I imagine that the apparent sheep-like pacifist quality of the Judeo-Christian cutlure is in part what keepts the lefty media continuously pummeling the Christian faith and making back-door jokes about Judaism as well. Islam is feared because some of its elements are militant and it therefore gets tickets to the ball and the best press money can buy.
After all, most of the press has only this world to look forward to any way. They believe neither in Heaven nor Hell, in Angels or Demons, in God or in a Savior, in Paradise or 72 virgins...they believe in their profit margin, in their possessions and in their personal fame here and now. They basically worship no god but themselves and their possessions.
Atheistic journalism has more fear of physical death being inflicted upon them from radical Islamic fundamentalists than fear of eternal judgment for unbelief coming from the suffering, pacifist Christian God who died on a cross. - FMWatkins, on 07/05/2008, -1/+2I suggest a blog for those interested in Muslim colonisation of Britain. It isn't my blog;
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z108/fmwatkins/ ...
http://freebritain.wordpress.com/ - NGeorgiaboy, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5Gosh I wonder if there's a parallel in the fact that both the UK and the US were tremendously blessed and prospered when they were nations of God-fearing people. Now that both countries have abandoned God and His Son, instead embracing false gods, it seems the opposite is true. Things appear to be going down the toilet quite rapidly in both countries. Hmmmm - I wonder how much further things will have to deteriorate before someone figures out what it is that has caused the change. Maybe never... It seems that the Israelites still haven't figured it out.
- isparadiselost, on 07/06/2008, -0/+5I've been through this with my kids. They whip out the prayer mat? You whip out and relieve yourself. If they grab you and try to force you to do anything? Call me. I know there are no shortage of candy assed dad's out there. I'm not one of them. I belong to the theory of live and let live. Once you start trying to force your agenda down my or my family's throat, you've made an act of war. I'm ready and will protect my family with EXTREME prejudice.
- yaridanjo, on 07/06/2008, -4/+0JimmySpaza "WND is simply reporting what has occurred. Why do you hate the truth?"
WND is trying to fan the fires of religious haterd. Here is some that they did not report, maybe you will like it also!
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6588
We killed Jesus, we¡¦ll kill you too!¡¨
Religion is a curse on all mankind. For example, had Israel heed the words of their Messiah (Love thy neighbor as thy self), they could have turned the mid east into a garden of Eden. They would have been loved by their Arab neighbors. Instead they turned Israel into a theocracy making the Mideast a hell on Earth. It seems that one religion only hates another one. It is religion that divides us. The world would be better off without any religions, Christianity included.- LadyAmerica, on 07/06/2008, -1/+3You forgot to add to your post: allah akbar or sieg heil!
- dm2121, on 07/06/2008, -1/+3Islam is a false religion! It was invented and spawned by Satan himself to run amuck throughout the entire four corners of the world; knowing fully well that this would be Satan's last stand before his assured eternal destruction!!! Islam is today's black plague.
- sexydarin, on 07/06/2008, -5/+3This is a white anglo country. Get the ***** out!
- SOLGAARD, on 07/07/2008, -2/+0What led you to the conclusion, that your mastery of english diction was "sexy" darin-?
- USNavyBlue, on 07/06/2008, -2/+3Most people - Americans in general don't realize what and who is driving the bus on this issue. In 1965 Ted Kennedy (which is a puppet for his masters - you know the men behind the curtain that really run our government) forced down the Americans peoples throat the 1965 Immigration Act.
The godvernment is responsible for allowing Muslims in this country in the FIRST PLACE! Put the dam blame were it belongs. Stop allowing the godvernment to import these alien creatures and other alien creatures in the USA and the issue is solved. Why in the hell do you think our Founding Forefathers never ALLOWED this? They were NOT stupid by any means. It is unfortunate, disgusting and outrageous that when this topic is brought to light that people have been so damn brainwashed they yell "racist", "Nazi", "KKK", Neo-Nazi", "Hitler" etc.. ad nausea!!!!!! WAKE UP! Take the blinders off.
Since the 1965 Immigration Act went into effect, more than 30 million immigrants, most from non-European, Third World countries have poured into the United States. Today, most of the U.S. population growth is due to these immigrants, and their offspring. These results contradict promises made to American citizens by the Act's Congressional Sponsors.
Senator Edward M. Kennedy in his own words! (TRAITOR)
"Out of deference to the critics, I want to comment on … what the bill will not do. First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same … Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset … Contrary to the charges in some quarters, S.500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia. In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think. Thirdly, the bill will not permit the entry of subversive persons, criminals, illiterates, or those with contagious disease or serious mental illness. As I noted a moment ago, no immigrant visa will be issued to a person who is likely to become a public charge … the charges I have mentioned are highly emotional, irrational, and with little foundation in fact. They are out of line with the obligations of responsible citizenship. They breed hate of our heritage."(Senate Part 1, Book 1, pp. 1-3)
HE LIED!
"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix will not be upset . . . Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia . . ." HE LIED AGAIN!
Every one of these assurances has proved false. Immigration levels did surge upward—they are now running at a million a year. Immigrants do come predominantly from one sort of area—85 per cent of the 11.8 million legal immigrants arriving in the U.S. between 1971 and 1990 were from the Third World, 44 per cent from Latin America and the Caribbean, 36 per cent from Asia—and from one country: 20 per cent from Mexico. And about 33,000 Africans arrived in 1990, which looks small only by comparison.
Above all, the American ethnic mix has been upset. In 1960, the U.S. population was 88.6 per cent white; in 1990, it was only 75.6 per cent white—a drop of 13 percentage points in thirty years. (Indeed, the proportion of "European-Americans" is probably a couple of percentage points lower than that, because the Census Bureau counts all Middle Easterners as "white.") The demographer Leon Bouvier has projected that by 2020—that is, easily within the lifetimes of many NATIONAL REVIEW readers—the proportion of whites could fall as low as 61 per cent. Among children under 15, minorities could be approaching the point of becoming the majority.
The Ionic part is that Anglo Americans no it is a matter of time before our culture gets wiped out by deliberate social engineering of the evil vile animals like Ted Kennedy and we are smeared as racists. This is genocide on Americans, period and Anglos are the racists. GET REAL!
Since 1965, moreover, U.S. public policy has in effect actively discriminated against Europeans. This is because, in another reversal, the 1965 Act placed a higher priority on "family reunification" than on admitting immigrants with skills. And "reunification" meant relatives no matter how remote. So the new immigrants arriving from countries that had not been traditional sources were able to sponsor so many additional immigrants that they crowded out European applicants with skills but no family connections from the "overall quota"—-before spilling over into the special category of admissions outside the "overall quota," which turned out to be vastly larger than predicted.
As a result, the post-1965 immigration is not only much bigger than expected: it is also less skilled.
You import the third world you in turn will live in the third world! It is that simple and no there is nothing wrong with wanting to preserve, protect and nurture the country's culture, which is of European decent! Now go ahead scream "RACIST" all you want because you can't argue with the truth and hard cold facts. The dam truth hurts doesn't it! - SOLGAARD, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1@ any pagan hung-up on "religion"
Yahshua, (whom you would call Jesus)- took the time to say that people shouldn't start religions, or follow men- but be guided by study of the WORD.
"religion", by definition of origin, (Greek)- equates with bondage, (very accurate descripton)
"Christianity", by definition, is freedom from bondage-
Now, the 643 commands in the "Old" Testament, and the 1050- in the "New" Testament- are kinda like the "Pirate's code"...(-"it's really more of a guide-line-").
If SOLGAARD has to defend myself, he will try- to NOT kill his attacker, (but that doesn't mean it won't happen - 17% chance of death by ACCIDENT in any life-threatenting physical altercation).
The FINAL COMMAND on the SABBATH, is to "do well"- (so if someone needs me to help them on the Sabbath, as long as it might be deemed "well" then that pretty-much frees me-up for alot).
The Living God is beyond many, (that's why YOU get the "TRIBULATION").
No-one wakes-up and hits the floor asking to be "saved".
Everyone of us, earned the right, to ask. We were ALL as proud as ANY pagan here at some point.
There is noone here, who has sinned MORE, or WORSE than me. - Ronald111, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3
With the idiot heir to the British throne saying he will not be invested as Defender of the Faith, what can we expect?
Ronald - yaridanjo, on 07/07/2008, -2/+0For LadyAmerica (who sounds more like MisterIsrael) - "You forgot to add to your post: allah akbar or sieg heil!"
Sorry, I did not think many Muslims read WND. But I will gladly correct my ending sentences.
(It is religion that divides us. The world would be better off without any religions, Christianity AND MOHAMMEDANISM included.)
P.S. Your Jewish religion was founded on an Extraterrestrial alien contact by Moses. The manna from heaven is now called 'angle hair', the column of fire was just a glowing cylindrical UFO and the burning bush was just Saint Elmo's (electric discharge) fire. -
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