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Fraud in Mexican Presidential Election
cepr.net — The Center for Economic And Policy Research in Washington did an analysis of the election results and a court ordered partial recount. They conclude that: "...this data may provide important statistical evidence with regard to the question of fraud. It is difficult to think of a legitimate reason for withholding this information."
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- gophernut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4They have been following this on Democracy Now! for a long time now. It's not adding up to me, I think the Bush Administration has a hand in this keeping Lopez Obrador out of office
- cambrown99, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1And in other news... researchers have determined that ice is cold
- WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2So Democracy Now! has evidence of US tampering with this election? I'd love to see that. Can you post it here? Thanks.
- gobari66, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Yes the past election in mexico, was an election of the gobern people, and the bussines man's man, like Coca Cola, Bimbo, Sabritas, Walmart, Televisa and Tv Azteca, all this companys make all the pork things to make that the IFE make a fraude.
Las pasadas eleciones fueron unas elecciones de estado!, no al fraude, no a la imposicion. - Shalomit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2in the eyes of many mexicans, a mega fraud has been orchested by Vicente Fox and the leading Party "PAN". If that had not been the case, All the ballots would have been opened by request of presidential al candidate Felipe Calderon, but that not only did not occur, Calderon himself was the greatest opponent on this matter along with all the IFE and TRIFE officicials. No legal reason for that , just simply not a reason.
- WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Wishing for something doesn't make it come true. All I've heard so far are suppositions against U.S. President Bush and Mexican President Fox, without any actual evidence of a crime being committed. I know a lot of people think mob mentality is the way to get things done. But even mobs can be brainwashed by false accusations. Has a neutral party, such as the U.N., been asked to oversee these recounts?
- tlan2007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3It's natural. Bush, as a man of the oil industry, wants their cronies to have a slice of every oil pie in the world. Considering the troubles with Venezuela, it's only natural that they want to have the Mexican oil under their full control. The energy business, the only thing that matters.
- celulita, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2The past elections are fake, there is a mega fraud. It is an state imposition coming from PAN party and Vicente FOX.
- juancarlos2006, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2REALMENTE ES INDIGNANTE LA SITUACION QUE VIVIMOS LOS MEXICANOS, ES EVIDENTE QUE CALDERON HA SIDO IMPUESTO POR EL PODER, PERO MAS EVIDENTE ES DE QUE LA MAYORIA DE LOS MEXICANOS NOS HEMOS DADO CUENTA DE LA ESTAFA Y NO NOS VAMOS A DEJAR.
POR OTRO LADO ME TIENE MUY INDIGNADO EL PAPEL QUE HA JUGADO LA PRENSA EN MEXICO, EN ESPECIAL LAS TELEVISORAS.
PIENSO QUE TELEVISA Y TV AZTECA ENCABEZAN LA PROSTITUCION DE EL PERIODISMO.
Y COMO DICE LOPEZ OBRADOR....
VIVA LA DIGNIDAD, VIVA MEXICO - Guenda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3cambrown:
You are undersestimating the situation. The ice is not cold yet. It's just the beginning. - AzraelKans, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Oh yeah, by the way, AMLO is a comunist. who is trying to take by FORCE the government in our country.
These guys are his semireligious followers willing to die for him.
Just so you can keep things on perspective. - magoghm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2More up-to-date information: http://digg.com/politics/Courts_threaten_to_extinguish_Democracy
- aureus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Elections in Mexico are corrupted by a few black minded people in power. They are afraid to loose their impunity and privileges. They have fear because Lopez Obrador is going to make the bases of a Republic with a better social system (Not a socialist system, but a state with a better level of democracy) and is going to begin and conclude many investigations about corruption in my country.
So, the business men, the electoral institutions, the Presidency and the High Court are making a fraud to keep their privileges out of danger. Even, if it results in an open confrontation against the millions of mexicans who voted for a real change.
I´m afraid that with Calderon in power, we will live a Fascist-nazist state of repression.
I don´t want this to happen. - DoeJane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The 'report' on democracynow.org was made by no other than pseudo investigative reporter Greg Palast, who flew to Mexico City on taxpayer money summoned by Luis Mandoki, both with an interest in the independent film industry (see a pattern here?).
Mr. Palast was driven around Mexico City -you'll see him in a taxi, but that was just for theatrical purposes- and mysteriously led to gather -first hand- the "unbiased" testimony of AMLO's supporters only: Mandoki himself, an alleged statician of Mexico's University, and a host of other obscure characters that played a roll in his mexican "hit" investigation. The newspaper you see Palast "reading" is 'La Jornada', pretty much the 'official' newspaper of the radical left.
Those who know Palast's incendiary reporting style, know that his opus must be taken with a grain of salt, or two. Unsuspecting readers/viewers of that report must be aware that the "evidence of fraud" therein presented was immediately rebutted and disproved.
Additionally, the reader/viewer must be aware that the report at hand is 'only' two months old and that no follow-up was ever made. Which leads me to believe that it was an attempt -and a flawed one at that- to strike a media hit.
Caveat emptor. - gandalfgrismx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0In Mexico the only thing that exists is a SECT named “lopezobradorismo”. This sect was brainwashed through a lot of cells named “Redes ciudadanas” in which reunions they put on videotape a video named “¿Quién es el Sr. López? That puts to this person like victim of a conspiracy of the government. The true is that this person is only a LIAR, that lies every time he have a microphone. Lopez Obrador is a LIAR. HE AND HIS SECT ARE A DANGER FOR MEXICO.
- mipeje, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Chequense al Peje en "Bailando por un Sueño: la presidencia"
http://www.mipeje.com/?p=16 - cibergrillo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The government of México, and his president Vicente Fox Quesada helped by George W. Bush, had stolen the democracy and now wants to kill our human rights. Many people need justice, but the Mexican judges are enemies of the policies humanist. The next presidente of México must be Andrés Manuel López Obrador. The other contender is a very bad option, he is like Hitler.
- punkest, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Mexican election graphics violated the 2Nd law of thermodynamics, and I believe it had involved fraud in many steps of the information flow.
- deicazah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3
The arithmetical mistakes regarding the counting of votes have been raised to `mathematical' level. The government explains thus the enormous number of ballot box discrepancies. Taking into account that the counting has been made by approximately 10 people, including the representatives of parties, at each ballot box, the government suggestion is that the IQ of those people is touching the ground. In spite of this fact, at the time, the government states that the education has been supported this last six years. At least one (big) lie!- DoeJane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Take a deep breath.....It is my understanding that the losing candidate offered irrefutable proof of electoral fraud at each of his speeches following election day. The first piece of evidence was a video in which a man (dressed in a striped blue shirt) is seen 'stuffing' a ballot box. The person in the video was no other than the presiding official at that voting station, his actions were publicly explained and were approved by the losing candidate's representative. So exhibit 'A' was stricken from the record, so to speak.
Thereafter, it is also my understanding that no credible piece of evidence was ever made public. What followed were a series of hit-and-miss allegations as to the method of "fraud" at hand.
I am positively certain that if the losing candidate had verifiable evidence of a smoking gun, it would have been a prominent element of their case before the Electoral Tribunal.
Since no such proof was submitted, we all should infer that the allegations of 'fraud' have been unsubstantiated, and therefore such claims are false.
Repeating ad-nauseaum that the earth is flat, is like running on ice.
- DoeJane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Take a deep breath.....It is my understanding that the losing candidate offered irrefutable proof of electoral fraud at each of his speeches following election day. The first piece of evidence was a video in which a man (dressed in a striped blue shirt) is seen 'stuffing' a ballot box. The person in the video was no other than the presiding official at that voting station, his actions were publicly explained and were approved by the losing candidate's representative. So exhibit 'A' was stricken from the record, so to speak.
- magoghm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Many scientists have been analyzing the data published by the Mexican Federal Electoral Institute (called IFE). There are many weird patterns that seem to point to election fraud. Here are a few links:
http://analisis.elecciones2006.unam.mx/ (in Spanish)
http://em.fis.unam.mx/public/mochan/elecciones/ (in Spanish)
http://macht.arts.cornell.edu/wrm1/pm06.pdf (in english)
The last link is to a paper written by Professor Walter R. Mebane from Cornell University where he applies Benford's law to electoral data, including the 2006 Mexican presidential elections. He concludes that: "The 2BL test results for secciones certainly suggest there are problems with the 2006 presidential vote counts in many Mexican states, although probably not in most of them. More refined analysis is needed to reach sharper conclusions, but the general impression is that more intensive investigation of the election results is in order. That might include doing a manual recount of many—perhaps all—of the individual ballots."- donatelo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2hey guys, not only the numbers given by the scientist showed what really happened in our election but also the manipulation that television is making to the information. I will never accept FeCal (Felipe Calderon) as my president!! they think we are stupid? after reading what the TRIFE said about the results ... I can´t trust on this institution, they said things like " there were (x )number more of illegal votes ...but they dont affect the final result..." no kidding!!
Just imagine these kind of anwers after receiving a lot of evidence(videos with people opening the ballots, photos taken to the final ballot results compared to the IFE result`s, extra votes, etc).
Smile Andres Manuel !!! you `ve got people that support you, you may not have the money they have but mexican people are sick of having the same corrupt goverment so:
Viva Mexico!!!
Viva Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador our only PRESIDENT - Matatena2012, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Tienes razón, te contesto en español y espero que lo entiendas, muchos de nosotros estamos muy enojados , indignados y estamos dispuestos a todo lo que nos diga AMLO, porque ya estamos HARTOS de que México siga estando con mucha pobreza por las tranzas y robos de los gobernantes que hemos tenido, no es posible que un FRAUDE como el que acaba de proteger el Tribunal electoral (TRIFE) sea posible !. Calderón NO GANÓ LAS ELECCIONES, todo es un sucio arreglo que han tenido las altas esferas de la política mexicana y muy probablemente BUSH también, ya sabes a Bush lo que le interesa es el $$$$$$$ y nuestro Pais y nuestro petroleo no le caerían nada mal. VIVA MEXICO
- donatelo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2hey guys, not only the numbers given by the scientist showed what really happened in our election but also the manipulation that television is making to the information. I will never accept FeCal (Felipe Calderon) as my president!! they think we are stupid? after reading what the TRIFE said about the results ... I can´t trust on this institution, they said things like " there were (x )number more of illegal votes ...but they dont affect the final result..." no kidding!!
- eabuylla, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This study adds up to many others that have found clear discrepancies among data sets available. It is an additional piece of evidence in support of fraud in Mexican last elections. It also demonstrates that there is lack of certainty in the result given by the Mexican authorities.
- cantoral, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Very good post. The comments on this thread are thoughtful. I was giving up on digg.com, I was starting to think that only kids read this service.
- rigg5mx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Unfortunately, Mexican people is separated in two kinds: I live in Mexico City, my job is near to Reforma avenue, the people that is living in camps are so quiet, TV broadcasters are lying to the people, including foreign press, like NYT, WSJ, and others.
Lets fight against a fake president.
Viva Mexico. - tremendous, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Felipe Calderón: Espurio.
- aldovich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0MALO un payaso
Su convencion de democracia ESPURIA
Felipe Calderon Presidente de Mexico
- aldovich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0MALO un payaso
- luisritx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2It´s great you don't just pass the official version. Informacion is very important for mexican democracy and there's just one point of view available on TV.
- julioosc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Check www.lospensamientoslibres.blogspot.com
- gblas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I Mexican, and i can not support an illegal government. Felipe Calderon made a 'hate campaign', and divided Mexican society, now he is asking for people union, that is hypocrisy.
It deceived the town saying to him that not convenia the opposite candidate instead of giving its own proposals. - Tlacuiloco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Viva México.
Fraude Electoral evidente. - mabkil, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Este tipo de pruebas estan demostrando desde el 2 de Julio el fraude electoral, mientras los medios nacioneles siguen tratando de ocultar lo evidente
- chaktor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2DIGG THIS !!
***** Mexican Goverment (and the USA) always impose their own candidates into the Presidential Chair !! This is not the first time , every single Mexican presidential election has been a fraud and we all know it. The only LEGITIMATELY ELECTED Presidents have been Francisco I. Madero and Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. We are now here more awake than ever to protest agaisnt this FASCISM, please help us digg this so everybody in the world know about this ***** thats going on in our country since the last 185 years. In Mexico all the TV stations are supporting the imposition and covering up all the fraud information. They are generating more hate and division among society and we are sick of this bitches who tell the people only one side of the story and are spending BILLIONS of dollars on fake propaganda to make the people believe this we 'clean elections'. WE ARE SICK OF THIS ***** WE WANT THEM IN JAIL!!.- gandalfgrismx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0In Mexico the only thing that exists is a SECT named “lopezobradorismo”. This sect was brainwashed through a lot of cells named “Redes ciudadanas” in which reunions they put on videotape a video named “¿Quién es el Sr. López? That puts to this person like victim of a conspiracy of the government. The true is that this person is only a LIAR, which lies every time he has a microphone. Lopez Obrador is a LIAR. HE AND HIS SECT ARE A DANGER FOR MEXICO.
- VotoAMLO, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2No a la imposicion de Calderon!!!!
Viva AMLO y su lucha por los pobres
Viva Mexico- aldovich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Felipe Calderon Presidente de Mexico, sonrian la alegria esta por venir
- mardol, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2THE MEXICANS WE KNOW OF THE HAPPENED FRAUD THE PAST 2 GIVE JULY AND WE WILL NOT LEAVE OURSELVES OF THE IMPOSITION THAT THE TRAITOR WANTS TO FORCE US TO THE DEMOCRACY VICENTE FOX
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Fraud in Mexico? You mean my velvet elvis might not be velvet after all?
- oodz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This is another piece of that many we have watched and listened to in this two months after elections in Mexico that must be considered seriously to be an evidence of this well done FRAUD . Mexico does not deserve to be taken by President Fox will by setting up a FAKE "pelele" (named felipillo calderon) in the big chair. Fighting now seems to be useless but we will never let this fake president sell Mexicos natural resources to fill up his pockets with our money.
!!!! AMLO AMIGO Y PRESIDENTE VERDADERO DEL PUEBLO DE MEXICO !!!! - rafamx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2FeCal digg this
- VITORGUAPOMEN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2There is a great electoral fraud in MEXICO.
- fael, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3now, this is a contundent proof. thank you mr troll.
- lizzeta, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2i am proud to be a mexican woman, and i don't want an illegal president like calderon. he brings mexico hate in all the people. he doesn"t deserve respect!! he divided our country.
our PRESIDENT IS ANDRES MANUEL LOPEZ OBRADOR!!
THANK YOU FOR LET US GIVE OUR VERSION OF THIS TERRIBLE FRAUD. - pampusik, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3On July 16, I saw 1.1 million people engage in an "informational march" outside of my hotel on the Zocalo. It was a moving experience, reminded me of the US presidential election in 2000, and made me wish that Gore had something AMLO definately has... cojones.
Viva Obrador!
Viva Mexico!- DoeJane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Oh that was so touching, it almost made me cry......sob.
- gabucha, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The people in Mexico was educated by the electronic media: TV and radio, it doesn't matter whether is true or not: if it's in the TV then it must be true.
Considering this situation, the privilege groups used the TV and radio against the democracy so they wouldn't lost privilege.
Meaning, the elections were a fraud since the beginning. Now will have a coward as president, because he never was able to front Lopez Obrador.- APE583M, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2We need to spread the truth worldwide. It´s not possible to legitimate an imposed President with the Media force, faking a democratic process which we know never existed. Mexican Media is playing the game of getting people´s minds dumb. We need the counciousness of the councious to wake everybody up. This is no game, Andrés Manuel López Obrador is the legitimate President of all mexicans. Felipe Calderón will fall due to his own lies weight. He is not even convenient to Bush and u.s. internal security. He is not convenient to democracy. He is a FRAUD.
- DoeJane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You are wrong, educated people went to school, where a criteria is formed and intelligence is enhanced. Educated people read several newspapers and magazines and are adamant (no, not the british singer) to relinquish their capacity to forge an opinion of their own. As opposed to gullible individuals that are easily brainwashed by the media or con artists (politicians and blog writers included).
Education has nothing to do with money or skin color, so refrain from using worn arguments.
- xp20045, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Voto * Voto Casilla * Casilla
- XIMENA, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Claro que existió fraude en contra de López Obrador, por eso no permitiremos que el espurio llegue a ceñirse la banda presidencial, lucharemos por la real democracia en México, cueste lo que cueste, no lo van a imponer, fecal nunca será presidente, no a la ultraderecha en el poder, por un país libre y justo, todos con Ándres Manuel López Obrador.
- ericelvago, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2no al fraude... imponer a un mandatario de tal manera es no poner atencion a lo que sucede en otras partes de Mexíco... para muestra Oaxaca... en las elecciones para gobernador se impuso por medio de fraude a Ulises Ruiz... ahora las consecuencias... una guerra civil en puerta... y a como van las cosas no dudo ni tantito que el problema que tratan de minimizar desde el centro de la republica pase a ser una lucha generalizada para defender la dignidad tan mancillada de todos nosotros.
- cefive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Cuando parecía que México había superado la época del partido de Estado unico y por fín podríamos como cualquier otor país viviendo en democracia elegir a nuestros gobernantes se da desde el poder del Gobierno Federal encabezado por Fox un regreso mucho mas cinico que el del régimen anterior al invertir recursos y programas sociales para beneficiar al candidato oficialista Felipe Calderón; Se construye una alianza mafiosa para alterar los resultados en las urnas y abrirlas para alterar el trabajo de los ciudadanos que actuaron como parte del proceso. Se da también una manipulacion del programa del Conteo de las votaciones que ponen en evidencia cientificos de la UNAM.
Y por último, los medios de comunicacion impiden que los datos de la manipulacion se difunda para que la población no conozca esos hechos, Los empresarios favorecidos por el foxismo pagan spots de television para tratar de defender la perdída honorabilidad de las instituciones electorales pero la gente desconfia mas, conociendo la historia de su pais y el papel que han jugado medios, empresarios, iglesia y el Estado en su historia reciente. La sintesis, no hay avance, México volvio a los viejos caminos de fraude y manipulación de la informacion; en tanto el pueblo busca utilizando sus derechos abrir los espacios a que tiene derecho mas alla de la descalificación de sus esfuerzos por llegar a ser algún día un país democratico - erathora, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2It's even more necessary than in Ukraine to count one more time all the votes here in my country, Mexico. The governmental party wants to impose a spurious president, but we, the citizens, are not going to allow this fraud.
Check my blog! (in Spanish)
http://erathora.blogspot.com
:) - radioservicio, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2El fraude es tan obvio que insulta la inteligencia de los que no vemos la television como una inyeccion de amnesia.
The fraud is so obviuos!!!- Matatena2012, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2No no no no, lo del fraude es a lo descarado, no es que crean que tenemos la mente de un gusano, yo creo que un gusano piensa más que ellos,ni tampoco somos retrasados mentales. Ya no nos vamos a dejar ni nos vamos a quedar callados, "ésto no se acaba hasta que se acaba" y todavía falta lo que nos indique AMLO en la Convención del día 16, porque todos vamos a estar pendientes día con día a lo que él diga. Mi hijo ha ido a todas las Asambleas a la Cd. de México, solamente que no pudo quedarse en el Zócalo desde el mes pasado pues su trabajo se lo impedía. Y sabes qué sucedió? Pues que le pidieron su renuncia por ser partidario de AMLO. Ésto cómo se llama? Un abrazo.
- aldovich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0El fraude solo ocurrio en la cabeza de su "Mesias Tropical" me refiero al payaso de MALO, no se ha podido comprobar nada. En todo caso tambien hubo fraude en el DF, al fin no hay que comprobar nada solo decirlo verdad??
Felipe Calderon Presidente de Mexico
- Tomate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2there is a fraud, no doubt about it. sadly the own goverment is on that side, so we will have to deal with a fraud president
- crodrigue1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Never, we will NEVER accept an spurious president
Lopez Obrador PRESIDENTE
CND - MexicanRenegade, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2NO WAY!!!
I HAVE G R E A T NEWS FOR YOU!! :) :)
The 39Th Article of Constitution of Mexico, indicates that Mexican citizens have the right to straight to alter or to modify their government at any time . We are going to do it with our Legitimate President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. Based on the articles 40 and the 41 of our Constitution which indicates that when the powers of the Union are corrupted, as it is happening right now, the Nation must rescue the integrity and honor of its Institutional life by any means, that is indeed, what our winner PRESIDENT ANDRES MANUEL LOPEZ OBRADOR is trying to do. He MUST EXPEL the cancerous power of the Republic Attn: Lic Antonio Solorio Perez. Teacher of Constitutional Rights.
El artículo 39 de la Constitución Política de México, que señala que el pueblo tiene en todo tiempo, el inalienable derecho de alterar o modificar su forma de gobierno, està bien interpretado por Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. Por que el art 40 y el 41 de la misma Constitucion , solo cobran realidad y valor , cuando el Estado se mantiene limpio y derecho. Pero cuando los poderes de la Union estàn corrompidos, como en el momento actual, la Nacion debe rescatar la rectitud de su vida Institucional por cualquier medio, que es precisamente lo que pretende Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador y se debe expulsar a los poderes cancerosos de la Republica Atte: Lic Antonio Solorio Perez. Maestro de Derecho Constitucional.
- crodrigue1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Never, we will NEVER accept an spurious president
- richimx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2They were blocking mr. López Obrador even before there was the election, they couldn't stop him, and as the very last chance they had, commited an elctoral fraud, but the crime was no perfect, the evidences are all around, but the authorities are blind to see that for self convenience. Mexico and the world don't deserve this kind of things.
- drinfierno, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2EL Fraude se respira aqui. Aunque el gobierno diga que las Instituciones son respetable y tanta tonteria. La pregunta es: Cuál Institución es respetable en México como para confiar en que el IFE y los Magistrados lo han de ser?
- liano, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2DIGG IT! Because, unfortunately, mexican people is left alone in its fight against the fraud. International help came to fight agianst frauds everywhere in the world and now almost nobody says aynthing. We feel like we were invisible to the world, left alone by teh democrats all over the world. A rally with 3 million people un july 30th, and many many other acts of cicil resistance are not vivisble to the world. Out tv and radio says we dont exist or we are just "blond sheeps" foloowing a sickk shepperd... But we will keep our struggle to dont let our young democracy die. Alone or not. Dont support the fraud , take part on this.
- VITORGUAPOMEN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Calderon is a SPURIOUS, Mexico does not want it like president,
Mexico wants to Obrador.
SMILE WE ARE IN FIGHT!!!
DEFENDAMOS A AMLO....
mi correo es vichc_21@hotmail.com- aldovich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0MALO get out of Mexico
we don't want you
- aldovich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0MALO get out of Mexico
- lerozhmexico, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Good post, in the elections (pre and post), Mexicans lived another page on their "head down"
national history. As Mexicans we are living the re-edition of the domain and resignation which define our "deep Mexico, as some Mexican writer describe on his text.
Is notorious that the pain of been submitted(country of Mexico) now exploit with marks of inequality promoted by the institutions that only serve a small group and its benefits. Now well exemplified on the hands of the Tribunal Electoral Del Poder Judicial De la Federacion.
En Resistencia Civil Pacifica.
!!!!MEXICO Libre!!! - antonio75178, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2many researchers from different universities in México have prooved that their was a cybernetic fraud in the presidential elections and the media has been a part of this fraud consciously or inconsciously, that why a dont watch TV news any more, I only read www.elsenderodelpeje.com to stay informed.
- pakita, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2no aceptaremos la imposicion,FELIPE CALDERON no ganó la eleccion,y VICENTE FOX es un traidor a la democracia mexicana, todos apoyemos a LOPEZ OBRADOR el unico y verdadero PRESIDENTE DE MEXICO, ojos te todo el mundo volteen hacia MEXICO donde se cometio UN GRAN FRAUDE es mas turbio y sucio de la historia
- Matatena2012, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Pakita, sabes lo mucho que he llorado? Es que no es posible que despues de tantos años de imponernos Presidente, ahora que por primera vez elegimos al que nos iba a ayudar a salir adelante y a reducir en mucho la inmensa pobreza de nuestro pueblo, se mete este desgraciado de FOX a robarnos desde hace 2 años a querernos quitar primero al candidato AMLO Y ahora al único hombre que podría ser la esperanza de un Mexico mejor, a duras penas llegó a la candidatura para hacerle otra porquería, EL FRAUDE MAS GRANDE Y DESCARADO. Un abrazo con cariño.
- amoLetelier, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Is funny how democracy is so important to the international community, specially the US and EU when the candidate that was robbed is close to their interests. When said candidate is close to the interests of his/her own people, democracy is no longer important and the US and EU allow a fraud to happen infront of their noses. The later is what happened in Mexico, as Calderón is more convenient to have as president, more convenient to the interests of large corporations. The fact that he didn´t actually win is secondary. This is just inmoral.
- adgs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Several Mexican scientists have found irregularities in the behavior of the electoral results based on statistical and probabilistic analysis. A lot of illegal actions were done by current president Vicente Fox to favor the conservative candidate, for instance, the use of public resources to promote Felipe Calderon. There are a significantly amount of evidences to conclude that the last Mexican presidential elections were fraudulent.
- elsanto666, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Un voto mas del sendero, animense y que se vea que somos muchos!!!
NO AL PINCHE FRAUDE! - lenteja, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2If you want to know more about this fraud...
check this site (in Spanish):
senderodelpeje.blogspot.com - mafevel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The fraud is obvious and insulting. The federal government didn't just let the fraud to operate, but was a part of it too. We can't trust our institutions, we can't trust the government. It's time for a huge change in Mexico, I just hope it's pacific. If it is not, the government will have full responsibility on it. We are tired of not being heard. We are tired of being betrayed by the people who we supposedly chose to lead us. 60 millions of poor people in a country rich in natural resources speaks for it self.
- chimalpopocatl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Hey guys,
There are at least two frauds in the last Mexican elections, one that I believe is the most grotesque is that key actors aligned themselves to deny what is Mexican democratic development over the last few decades. By this I mean that Mexican democratic process started long ago, even before 1988 presidential elections. Further in the middle of the 90s Mexicans rearranged the institutional design in order to guarantee crystal clear elections. As a result of all that Fox was able not only to won back in 2000, but to be recognised by president Zedillo and the PRI. In that regard there was a fraud to the democratic process itself.
The second fraud is the one of the last July 2nd. I was operated by a parallel structure belonging to one of the most questioned politician in Mexico, Elba Esther Gordillo. In addition to this, in the political campaign rightist party (PAN) in association with president fox and other actors, (most of them benefited from fox administration) like mass media owners, backed up, financially supported and put their hands on a black propaganda against Mr. Lopez Obrador.
Those two reasons make strongly support the idea of fully recounting, for at least having clear what exactly happened in the election. I would also like to have a strong position from the magistrates regarding the intromission of the president and all others who spent a lot of money in attacking Mr. Lopez Obrador.
Sufragio efectivo, No imposicion! - ovferr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The Fraud committed in the Mexican election is evident. Only those who don't want to see it can say everything was right. We will fight against fascism in Mexico, they won't pass. People will prevail.
No Al Fraude Electoral!
Viva La Convencion Nacional Democratica!
http://guanajuato-resistencia-civil.blogspot.com
- Argus9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2En estas elecciones se estan dando tres fraudes tres, uno antes, otro durante y otro después, es decir, ahora; este, llevado a cabo en complicidad con, desgraciadamente, la mayoria de los medios de comunicación. ¿ Queremos una Nación a la altura de cualquiera Europea ?, este es el momento y está en nuestras manos. Yo YA tengo PRESIDENTE . . . . se llama ANDRÉS MANUEL LÓPEZ OBRADOR.
- silenciosa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Estoy en la misma postura que los que estamos haciendo comentarios a este respecto, en la actualidad en nuestro país vivimos un fraude historico, que decididamente esta ignorando el mandato popular que hicimos en las pasadas elecciones: Presidente Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador!!! VOTO X VOTO NO AL ESPURIO DE FECAL. Visiten el sitio www.elsenderodelpeje.com, para tener ínformación verdadera
- syma76, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2if you really want to be informed about politics concerning Mexico, checkout this site
www.elsenderodelpeje.com - mochan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Thanks for posting this analysis made by The Center for Economic And Policy Research in Washington. A few colleagues and I have done similar analysis and have posted them in a couple of web pages (most in Spanish):
http://em.fis.unam.mx/public/mochan/elecciones/
http://analisis.elecciones2006.unam.mx/
In particular, an analysis of further inconsistencies of the kind reported by the Center for Economic and Policy research may be found in
http://em.fis.unam.mx/public/mochan/elecciones/paperMochan.pdf
Again, it is in spanish, but the main results are contained in two tables (table 3 and 4) which compare the number of ballots in the electoral boxes to the number of blank ballots at the beggining and end of the election, the number of voters compared to the number of people that registered their vote at each electoral station, the number of ballots compared to the number of registered voters, and the number of votes compared to the number of ballots found in each box. For each of the four tests, I found tens of thousands of stations where the data disagrees and the total number of votes. voters and ballots involved are of the order of millions. The election was presumably won by a mere quarter of a million votes and it is with data of this quality that the winner will be certified probably tomorrow morning.
Luis Mochan - VITORGUAPOMEN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"CALDERON IS LIKE BUSH"
HI AMERICANS!!! WAKE UP.
THE HUMANS WE NEEDED DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD...
KNOW KNOW THE MOVEMENT RESISTANCE
SMILE AMLO!!!
WE ARE WITH YOU!!! - chilangos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2in this matter is only two soups,ether there is a huge fraud or millions of Mexican people do not know how to count!!!
i will go for the first one we are getting screw big time like always,now is time to do something,so the future generations won't have to deal with this so call"democracy"
Calderon will be a illegal,bastard Mexican president.
support the boycott!!
be a pacifist!!
you want to be well inform?visit http://senderodelpeje.blogspot.com - gerardovh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2!Mexicanos! No nos quedemos indiferentes ante esta nuevo agravio hacia nosotros. Nosotros somos Mexico NO ESA BOLA DE LADRONES IDOS A EMPRESARIOS-POLITICOS. Sumemonos a los BOICOTS (Bimbo, Sabritas, coca-cola, etc.).
- patiqual, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2REPUDIO TOTAL AL FRAUDE ELECTORA
EL PUEBLO VOTO Y AMLO GANO -
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