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Gore gets a cold shoulder

smh.com.au — ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".

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brainintraining, on 10/16/2007, -0/+50Thank god someone gets it.
- CerealJohn, on 10/15/2007, -0/+19Absolutely fantastic!
mattowan, on 10/16/2007, -1/+39One of the most hypocritical alarmist, propagandist, and opportunists the world has seen in some time.
- cashman57, on 10/15/2007, -1/+14Absolutely right. Gore has to be the biggest hypocrite on this subject there is.
  - safarial, on 10/15/2007, -1/+5Absolutely right. algore has to be the biggest hypocrite there is.
    
    Minor corrections.
- bluto36, on 10/15/2007, -1/+4*puts fingers in ear and closes eyes* nananananananana i can't hear you! the end is coming, the end is coming, global warming is real and the goracle is its prophet
hartwelltv, on 10/16/2007, -0/+41Gore's movie is "brainwashing our children," - Dr. Gray
- BigBlueCarbon, on 10/15/2007, -14/+1we love it - our side can use the childrens too
  - jakeson2, on 10/15/2007, -0/+17The children you are brainwashing may decide you breath too much CO2 one day and summarily get rid of you. You would do better treating your children with care and understanding and never stop telling them to beware of false prophets like the hypocritical Al Gore.
    - rwvalentine, on 10/15/2007, -6/+1we agree, don't have children
mnocket, on 10/15/2007, -3/+31But I thought EVERYONE AGREES and there is a CLEAR CONSENSUS among scientists. Don't tell me this man made global warming thing is just a bunch of ideologues preaching beliefs and twisting facts to support those beliefs.
jakeson2, on 10/16/2007, -1/+34Dr. Gray is one brave and knowledgeable man. He is not afraid to take on the liberal global warming fiasco mania. Wonderful to see and hear a man gifted to not live in fear. Fear like the liberals live every day. How sad the liberals must be all the while knowing that they are killing themselves by breathing "in and out". If a few more of them would, the world would be better off.
sideffects, on 10/16/2007, -1/+35The sun heats up the earth. Solar Activity changes. It's not too hard to comprehend, Gore.
detokaal, on 10/16/2007, -0/+28The essence of "global warming": "It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong," he said. "But they also know that they'd never get any grants if they spoke out. I don't care about grants."
BtmnHatesRbn, on 10/15/2007, -8/+6Did you know that if all the ice caps melt, the sea level will fall. Want proof? Fill your soda glass with ice and soda. Mark the height of the level the liquid is when the ice is frozen. Come back later when the ice is melted and notice that the liquid level is lower. Why? Because ice is explanded matter in the frozen state. So, since "global warming" is all about the "rising sea level" of the "melting ice caps", they how is that possible when a simple science experiment can prove otherwise?
- Neiby, on 10/15/2007, -3/+11You are correct for free-floating ice in the ocean, but you're not taking into account all the ice on land that could melt and flow into the ocean.
  
  I'm probably on your "side" in this, but this is an important point in the debate.
- sideshowoddity, on 10/15/2007, -10/+1Global warming is about the planet getting too hot, too fast, and the disastrous consequences. It's NOT "all about the "rising sea level" of the "melting ice caps," that is just one of the many problems, *****!
  - robisfunky, on 10/15/2007, -0/+6 Save your name calling and factual ignorance for 99% of the other Digg threads- you will be well accepted there. You've stumbled into a thread that is talking about FACTS. You are out of place here.
zelig, on 10/16/2007, -1/+31COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING

MYTH 1: Global temperatures are rising at a rapid, unprecedented rate.

FACT: Accurate satellite, balloon and mountain top observations made over the last three decades have not shown any significant change in the long term rate of increase in global temperatures. Average ground station readings do show a mild warming of 0.6 to 0.8C over the last 100 years, which is well within the natural variations recorded in the last millennium. The ground station network suffers from an uneven distribution across the globe; the stations are preferentially located in growing urban and industrial areas ("heat islands"), which show substantially higher readings than adjacent rural areas ("land use effects").

There has been no catastrophic warming recorded.

MYTH 2: The "hockey stick" graph proves that the earth has experienced a steady, very gradual temperature increase for 1000 years, then recently began a sudden increase.

FACT: Significant changes in climate have continually occurred throughout geologic time. For instance, the Medieval Warm Period, from around 1000 to1200 AD (when the Vikings farmed on Greenland) was followed by a period known as the Little Ice Age. Since the end of the 17th Century the "average global temperature" has been rising at the low steady rate mentioned above; although from 1940 – 1970 temperatures actually dropped, leading to a Global Cooling scare.

The "hockey stick", a poster boy of both the UN's IPCC and Canada's Environment Department, ignores historical recorded climatic swings, and has now also been proven to be flawed and statistically unreliable as well. It is a computer construct and a faulty one at that.

MYTH 3: Human produced carbon dioxide has increased over the last 100 years, adding to the Greenhouse effect, thus warming the earth.

FACT: Carbon dioxide levels have indeed changed for various reasons, human and otherwise, just as they have throughout geologic time. Since the beginning of the industrial revolution, the CO2 content of the atmosphere has increased. The RATE of growth during this period has also increased from about 0.2% per year to the present rate of about 0.4% per year,which growth rate has now been constant for the past 25 years. However, there is no proof that CO2 is the main driver of global warming. As measured in ice cores dated over many thousands of years, CO2 levels move up and down AFTER the temperature has done so, and thus are the RESULT OF, NOT THE CAUSE of warming. Geological field work in recent sediments confirms this causal relationship. There is solid evidence that, as temperatures move up and down naturally and cyclically through solar radiation, orbital and galactic influences, the warming surface layers of the earth's oceans expel more CO2 as a result.

MYTH 4: CO2 is the most common greenhouse gas.
FACT: Greenhouse gases form about 3 % of the atmosphere by volume. They consist of varying amounts, (about 97%) of water vapour and clouds, with the remainder being gases like CO2, CH4, Ozone and N2O, of which carbon dioxide is the largest amount. Hence, CO2 constitutes about 0.037% of the atmosphere. While the minor gases are more effective as "greenhouse agents" than water vapour and clouds, the latter are overwhelming the effect by their sheer volume and – in the end – are thought to be responsible for 60% of the "Greenhouse effect".

Those attributing climate change to CO2 rarely mention this important fact.

MYTH 5: Computer models verify that CO2 increases will cause significant global warming.

FACT: Computer models can be made to "verify" anything by changing some of the 5 million input parameters or any of a multitude of negative and positive feedbacks in the program used.. They do not "prove" anything. Also, computer models predicting global warming are incapable of properly including the effects of the sun, cosmic rays and the clouds. The sun is a major cause of temperature variation on the earth surface as its received radiation changes all the time, This happens largely in cyclical fashion. The number and the lengths in time of sunspots can be correlated very closely with average temperatures on earth, e.g. the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period. Varying intensity of solar heat radiation affects the surface temperature of the oceans and the currents. Warmer ocean water expels gases, some of which are CO2. Solar radiation interferes with the cosmic ray flux, thus influencing the amount ionized nuclei which control cloud cover.

MYTH 6: The UN proved that man–made CO2 causes global warming.

FACT: In a 1996 report by the UN on global warming, two statements were deleted from the final draft. Here they are:
1) “None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases.”
2) “No study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to man–made causes”

To the present day there is still no scientific proof that man-made CO2 causes significant global warming.

MYTH 7: CO2 is a pollutant.
FACT: This is absolutely not true. Nitrogen forms 80% of our atmosphere. We could not live in 100% nitrogen either. Carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than nitrogen is. CO2 is essential to life on earth. It is necessary for plant growth since increased CO2 intake as a result of increased atmospheric concentration causes many trees and other plants to grow more vigorously. Unfortunately, the Canadian Government has included CO2 with a number of truly toxic and noxious substances listed by the Environmental Protection Act, only as their means to politically control it.

MYTH 8: Global warming will cause more storms and other weather extremes.

FACT: There is no scientific or statistical evidence whatsoever that supports such claims on a global scale. Regional variations may occur. Growing insurance and infrastructure repair costs, particularly in coastal areas, are sometimes claimed to be the result of increasing frequency and severity of storms, whereas in reality they are a function of increasing population density, escalating development value, and ever more media reporting.

MYTH 9: Receding glaciers and the calving of ice shelves are proof of global warming.

FACT: Glaciers have been receding and growing cyclically for hundreds of years. Recent glacier melting is a consequence of coming out of the very cool period of the Little Ice Age. Ice shelves have been breaking off for centuries. Scientists know of at least 33 periods of glaciers growing and then retreating. It’s normal. Besides, glacier's health is dependent as much on precipitation as on temperature.

MYTH 10: The earth’s poles are warming; polar ice caps are breaking up and melting and the sea level rising.

FACT: The earth is variable. The western Arctic may be getting somewhat warmer, due to unrelated cyclic events in the Pacific Ocean, but the Eastern Arctic and Greenland are getting colder. The small Palmer Peninsula of Antarctica is getting warmer, while the main Antarctic continent is actually cooling. Ice thicknesses are increasing both on Greenland and in Antarctica.

Sea level monitoring in the Pacific (Tuvalu) and Indian Oceans (Maldives) has shown no sign of any sea level rise.
- Commodore84, on 10/15/2007, -0/+3Got a source for that? Well-written.
- jakdracula, on 10/15/2007, -0/+3hi:
  
  Do you have a source for that? I need to use it, but the first thing I'll be asked by the lying left is 'Do you have a source?"
jmbreland, on 10/16/2007, -1/+20Everyone gets their 15 minutes of fame, they say. Okay, Mr. Gore, time to exit left. The curtain's closing and the hall lights are brightening.

The sad thing is, poor ole' Al is still relatively young. After the pop/junk science he's selling eventually collapses under the weight of REAL inconvenient truth, he'll have to live with his own infamy for a long time.
refinch, on 10/15/2007, -1/+10I'm more worried about "Global Tepiding."

http://global-tepiding.com

People are going to burn stuff. More people? More stuff burned. Less people? Less stuff burned. We can all do our part to save the planet by dying. But I want to see all of the disciples of phony altruism on the left show their commitment by going first, OK? Take our word for it that we’ll go next.

We promise.
proliance, on 10/15/2007, -1/+25Here's a story that belongs on the front page. Alas, the majority of Diggers won't allow it.
Sumyunguy, on 10/15/2007, -2/+11Suck it Al!
spicoli77, on 10/15/2007, -0/+25This is the exact story that needs to make it to the top of sites like DIGG. We need to shatter the global warming BS with reputable articles from reputable sources. Everyone should believe in exposing charlatans trying to make a buck off terrorizing people - DIGG this now!
- Neiby, on 10/16/2007, -0/+17It will be ignored by the Global Warming Truthers. They like to pretend there is no debate by ignoring one complete side of the argument. By dismissing arguments out of hand, they can continue to pretend like these matters have already been decided.
jimski1961, on 10/15/2007, -9/+7 We want Al Gore! We want Al Gore! We want Al Gore! We want Al Gore! We want Al Gore! We want Al Gore! We want Al Gore! The hard core traditional Democrats pray for someone other than Hitlery. The right will rip this idiot to shreds.
bpassmore, on 10/15/2007, -1/+10Thank God someone gets it -
cashman57, on 10/15/2007, -0/+14The line about the grants steering the science is true.
Anyone who thinks global warming has any serious scientific base should get the facts.
dangoldfinch, on 10/15/2007, -0/+8Amen! I agree that Algore is a seriously misguided 'scientist.' Take back his Oscar and given him a Razzie. Take back his Nobel, and make him serve in Iraq.

Seriously though, I am glad there people who are putting all this hype and myth to rest. This is what we need: Sound, reasonable people speaking the truth. Thank you Dr Gray!
pineapplepaul, on 10/15/2007, -0/+17"It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong," he said. "But they also know that they'd never get any grants if they spoke out. I don't care about grants."'

That's the problem with global warming alarmism in a nutshell.
LoneRanger85, on 10/16/2007, -1/+11Does a week go by when Gorebull Whining isn't discredited? I guess the weak-minded will always find a cult to follow.
jmsewe0, on 10/15/2007, -1/+9Love it! Someone tell Gore to go back to eating donuts and Slurpee's. I would give my right teste to get this story into mainstream media (or on the front page of Digg). Too bad I would have to give both testes to get it on the last page of reddit.
eth3l, on 10/24/2007, -1/+13WHy not front paged?
- dan222555, on 10/24/2007, -1/+9The truth rarely makes it to the front page...
robisfunky, on 10/15/2007, -1/+12 Al Gore has definitely done as much for World Peace as fellow Prize winner Yassar Arafat - i.e. NOTHING
dan222555, on 10/15/2007, -0/+7Most telling quote in the article:

'"It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong," he said. "But they also know that they'd never get any grants if they spoke out. I don't care about grants."'
BrennanK, on 07/28/2008, -3/+1It is imperative that we stand up and tell our children the TRUTH about global warming, not the over-inflated, politically-motivated and financially-rewarded GARBAGE that Gore et al are spewing. Yes, we need to become more ecologically aware, but wouldn't that include learning and publicizing the climatological damage being done by factory farming? Check for yourself where the LARGEST AMOUNT of greenhouse gasses are coming from, even though the politically powerful (and lucrative) beef, dairy & pork industry would prefer that you remain unaware.
4wheel, on 10/24/2007, -2/+5Maybe Al can start protecting everyone from Man-bear-pig!
ladybroadoak, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1First Al Gore used a wonderful Austrian psychiatrist named Alice Miller to make himself SO compelling and look like a sympathetic character.
Then he moved onto studying the RFID chip by going state to state and figuring how to track welfare and disability recipients (yes, he did).
THEN he went and kicked out clean and sober people in AA and NA from the US without using warrants, hearings or any sort of appeals process - hand and glove with Janet Reno and the Department of Justice starting in 1993. HUNDREDS of people were deported and their families DESTROYED.
THEN he ripped off the American public totally by helping out his banker friends get huge money during 9/11 and the aftermath, which is slowly coming, slowly coming to light. We are talking BILLIONS of dollars here, folks. The BANKS and GREENSPAN are admitting it ...
Now he takes an honest inuit woman, Sheila Watt Cloutier and makes himself into this BIG fat hero on her back and the backs of her friends.
Any wonder those of us who truly follow the story of his MONEY SCHEMES are aghast these days??
I live in EXILE in Canada due to Al Gore and Bill Clinton. I broke no laws in my life and am a clean, constructive person.
I know all about the conferences that were held in the Windows of the World restraunt where they educated people who were trained to manipulate carbon credits ...
I also know BAD SCIENCE when I see it.
There is indeed global warming, the sun has some very odd solarflux activity as it moves into the photon belt and more in line with the galxian centre - but it is NOT greenouse gas effects and dear ole Al know that, too. He had access to every single US intelligence secret for eight long years.
FOR SHAME AL!! FOR SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!
Wait'll we all see what a travesty he does with his prize money .. won't go to the inuit, that I can bet on and take my winnings right to the bank .. maybe it'll go to fueling his personal jet????
RobotBuddha, on 10/18/2007, -1/+1Dugg because the guy's actually qualified to comment on the issue. Unlike me, or 99.9% of digg. There's times I find it a bit scary how people can actually have a 'strong' opinion on this issue without any actual education in climatology. Though, as much as I hate to say it, the second I saw how old he was my trust dropped a bit. On average, the work of older scientists tends to be pretty bad no matter how high their starting point.
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