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Intel Officials: Rice's July '01 Briefing Was A "10 On a Scale of 1 to 10"

thinkprogress.org — Rice claims the briefing on al Qaeda's plans to strike US interests was relatively unremarkable. The intelligence officials who prepared the briefing disagree.

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  • e68895f, on 10/12/2007, -51/+15That 1 to 10 scale must hate America, or have a liberal bias ....
    • tidu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+64What did the AMD Officials say?
    • deuceswilde, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23I was unaware protecting your country was tantamount to hating it.
    • danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3Please point to me how this is protecting the country. It appears to me that you have two people protecting themselves. Of course the author of the PowerPoint is going to say it was a 10 out of 10, who cares. It sounds to me like this briefing had no information that Rice was not aware of already and simply rehashed the facts so it was not memorable. It did not contain any information about their plans for the next attack (911) just that an attack would happen. Well you don't have to be payed a 6 figure salary as an intelligence analyst to figure that out. I would have thought it was not memorable either.
    • malfourmed, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Numbers do have a well known liberal bias ...
    • rderveloy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25"We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in 'reality'. And reality has a well-known liberal bias."
      -Steve Colbert
    • k0sty, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7colbert is the man
    • GeneralFault, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@daniel,
      This is why the administration does not even bother to raise the terror level let alone tell anybody when they get a non-specific threat on a non-specific target. Oh wait, they do that all of the time! (I would list links and such, but I think that the list returned by googling "non-specific threat terror level raised" says it all). So, before 9/11 and after Clinton, a non-specific threat is not a threat at all. After 9/11 a non-specific threat is tantamount to a message reading "Attack at Perl Harbor on Sunday".

    • rderveloy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6(Edit timer ran out)

      Somehow I think some people missed the joke.

      For those who did, the joke is a play on a quote by Steve Colbert when he was speaking to President Bush:
      "Now, I know there are some polls out there saying this man has a 32% approval rating. But guys like us, we don't pay attention to the polls. We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in 'reality.' And reality has a well-known liberal bias. "

      And for those did get the joke, and dugg down people's comments anyways, maybe you should watch this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT9Xp0P9eOo
    • lxdengar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I love these political stories! It makes it so much easier figuring out who the inane/hate-spewing posters are and block them!

      Seriously, e68895f, thanks for making it easy!
    • soogy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@tidu:

      I thought I was the only one who was confused at first, guess I was wrong. Guys, do not abbreviate "Intelligence" as "Intel" on Digg, it just hurts the brain.
    • deesnutz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why is it that with this administration there are lies and cover ups behind every corner? But, about 3,000 of our people died on 9/11. Over 3,000 soldiers have died in Iraq. Thousands of more without limbs. And still no one has been held accountable. It is truly unbelievable.

      The Bush wars ...
      http://www.democratgiftshop.com/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi/892364072/koy/1307442

    • ichbinladen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Sarcasm meters are off today?
  • pgbrx, on 10/12/2007, -9/+27So much for the "I didn't know" defense..... or the "Clinton did it" defense
    • Vicious, on 10/12/2007, -48/+7Too bad Bush can't do it Texas style and just take her out back lynch a *****.
    • GeneralFault, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Oh how I love the "block button". Bye bye Vicious.
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I would block vicious but there is text obscuring the block button.

      *edit* woohooo I got it.
    • moondog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Of course the people that gave the briefing are going to think they did great. Its like a class where you grade your own work...

      And of course Condi is going to say she didnt have a good enough briefing...both sides have agendas...they dont want to get screwed.
  • hawkeye17, on 10/12/2007, -9/+29And people think Clinton is to blame for 9/11?? Bush Co. was warned of imminent attacks on multiple occasions and they did NOTHING. Everyone in the Bush Administration is imcompetent and history will not be kind. Enjoy that Legacy Condi.
    • mikekeen, on 10/12/2007, -31/+6"Everyone in the Bush Administration is imcompetent and history will not be kind."

      Ladies and gentleman, the exaggerating (non) psychic know-it-all!
    • GeneralFault, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8It does not take a psychic to know that when a monkey thows his *****, it's going to get all over the place.
    • ISIfunded911, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4I have to disagree! You are being incredibly naive here. From everything that has now been discovered about 9/11, it is clear that they at least let it happen on purpose.
      Watch 9/11 Press for Truth, a documentary about the 9/11 families of those who died that day. They state that the 9/11 Commission did not answer a majority of their questions, that this commission was not independent, that it covered-up a lot of crucial facts; hence the official version is a lie. Those families conducted an independent investigation by themselves and what they found out clearly incriminates the Pakistani secret services (ISI) the Bush administration, the FBI,... Just watch it entirely, and at the end you shall see the appalling truth very clearly:
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8666444901186351024
      Another great movie about 9/11 that teaches a lot about the Pakistani connection:
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1981225573970187433
    • fnaqzna, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Just say "no" to conspiracy theory whackjobs.
    • MrBlackthorne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Am I the only one that has access to the spelling checker? Just curious...
  • honds, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Please spell out the word intelligence or at least put a period after it. I'm not an idiot, I knew what he meant but still... come on.... anyone ever heard of a company called Intel that sometimes is in front page stories?
    • leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3unfortunately it is directly from the article title.
    • jackelsmack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Anyone ever heard of a character limit on digg's article titles? Maybe you'd prefer "Intelligence Officials: Rice's July '01 Briefing Was A "10 On a Scale of"

      Regardless, it's easy to see why Rice didn't take this warning seriously... all her other meetings that day were 11s.

  • bikerGuyUT, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20Reality has a liberal bias.
    • leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18are you saying republicans live in a fantasy land?
    • JamesK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Even Tattoo didn't think we would be greeted with flowers and chocolate!
  • ISIfunded911, on 10/12/2007, -21/+10Why wait any longer to put her and Bush and Cheney on the electric chair?
    • justsaynotolibs, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6I thought all you libs were against capital punishment. Would you like another slice of hypocrisy?
    • danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3Just against anything that is not convenient to themselves.
    • tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Perhaps things arent always black and white. I know it goes against what current politics say, but it just might be possible to have beliefs from both parties.
    • LiberalJustice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Apparently you don't understand sarcasm or wishful thinking.
    • velezda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Because that's not what we do.
  • daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6This is insane!

    Now a semiconductor manufacturer is helping run the county! Will the sell outs ever stop?

    :)
  • garyhoen, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5This is like saying that spammers will spam people and rating this as a 10!

    Where? When? How? Outlook only?
    • GeneralFault, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5No, its more like saying,
      "We have intelligence in the form of increased intel. chatter that in the next few weeks or months the spammer group in Russia known as Al Spamda will be simultaneously flooding multiple major U.S. servers from multiple locations and may bring down the entire Internet and several major infrastructure systems such as air traffic control and electrical grid monitoring computers. They have tried in the past and had some success. This is a real and immediate threat."
      But I can see how she would ignore that too. After all, she went shoe shopping in the middle of the Katrina disaster.
  • satanatnmtedu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5It is possible that she didn't think it was important, and she doesn't remember trivial bits of each day. There is plausible deniability here.

    • willcode4beer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe its just simple incompetence.
      They were still new at the job, probably didn't understand a terrorist threat as a real threat. Now of course its standard cya. Back at that time, there were probably very few people in the country who *really* understood what the threats meant.
      I like to bash the idiots in office as much as the next guy but, I think this was just a stupid and very expensive mistake.
      The problem is they followed up a non-malicious stupid mistake with a preplanned malicious attack (on Iraq) before finishing the job in Afganistan. So, everyone wants to treat the mistake the same way. Either way, I for one will be glad to see them go.
  • InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20Some fun facts:

    July 10, 2001: Rice, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft are briefed about the impending attacks by al-qaeda using hijacked planes.

    July 26, 2001: This same group orders their staff to stop flying commercial jets and use charter jets.

    Coincidence?
  • CoolWind, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Condoleezza Rice is a national disgrace and has been from day 1. She is totally and hopelessly incompetent.
  • bluejet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Everything points to the Bush administration turning a blind eye to the inevitable attack on the USA. Richard Perle outlined the need for a terrorist attack on the USA to go into Iraq...this is part of the plan outlined in his report "Project for the New American Century". It's too bad people can't see the truth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
  • repins, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3If this was a 10 of 10 in July of 2001, what was it in 2000 while the terrorist where in the USA learning to fly airplanes? Why did the FBI not arrest the terrorists, I have seen stories detailing that the FBI actually knew that Atta was in the US and was being watched.

    Knowing that something could happen and knowing it will happen, where and when are different things. I can say with 100% certainty that someone will be shot to death tomorrow, but without who, when or where it is impossible to stop it.
  • totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9So Rice's Chronology goes as follows:
    1) Clinton is wrong, we took it very seriously
    2) I didn't even take that meeting with Tenet
    3) I did take the meeting, but I didn't take it seriously.

    • ISIfunded911, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Yeah, so many lies and cover-ups about 9/11 by the Bush administration that it is now very hard not to believe that they at the very least let it happen on purpose.
  • Swift2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The story about Atta being known about is bogus. This has been circulating in Republican circles for a long time, but it's just not true. There had been numerous indications, however, including papers found in connection with the Kenya attack, and the plot which was foiled in the Philippines, that al Qaeda was putting people in flight schools, and thinking about flying planes into buildings. Moussaoui was caught, but they didn't look at his hard drive until after the attacks. If they had followed that connection, they might have made them scatter.
  • Dotnetsky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Funny, but I didn't seem to have any trouble reading this part:
    "At Rice's request, the State Department's legal adviser, John Bellinger, researched the 2001 meeting today at the National Security Council archive while Rice aide Philip Zelikow researched the National Archives, McCormack's statement said.

    McCormack said the information from the July 2001 meeting was made available to a commission that investigated the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Zelikow was executive director of the Sept. 11 commission. "

    The information was made available to the Sept 11 Commission, OK?
  • xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Huh, I thought the first WTC attack would have been a 10 out of 10.
    Or the embassy bombings, hmmm, I would think, sure, 10 out of 10.
    USS Cole, a definite 10 out of 10 right?
    How come no one did anything then?
  • GruntboyX, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2no digg because its from Think Progress. So the information is already suspect
  • ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Rice is a bigger asshat than Bush.

    Both of them need to realize that if you want to be a politician you need to learn how to lie better.
  • jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1republican party, mired in scandal, lie so much they've tangled themselves up in their own lies... and, of course, this is no surprise, because this has always been the way with republicans since long ago...

    leave the office, leave it now, before you go in complete disgrace
  • RikkiTikkiTavi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1DISCLOSURE: THIS STORY IS SPAM POSTED BY THE FOLLOWING CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS POLITICAL OPERATIVE TO DRIVE TRAFFIC TO THEIR THINKPROGRESS.ORG SITE & SHAPE PUBLIC OPINION:
    Digg.com ID: jlegum, a.k.a. Netscape.com ID: buco, a.k.a. Reddit.com ID: jlegum, a.k.a Judd Legum, Research Director at the Center for American Progress and the editor of ThinkProgress.org.
    http://rikki-tikki-tavis-garden.blogspot.com/
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