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No Shirt, No Shoes, No ID? Vote Obama!

nypost.com — olunteers supporting Barack Obama picked up hundreds of people at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and drug-rehab centers and drove them to a polling place yesterday on the last day that Ohioans could register and vote on the same day, almost no questions asked.

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  • LoneRanger85, on 10/07/2008, -39/+86Community organizing at its best.
    • TruthinessHurts, on 10/07/2008, -14/+21Indeed it is!
      While right wing shills would have you believe that somehow some sort of illegal or inappropriate activity is taking place, this is in fact what democracy is about.

      The Republicans could organize something like this, too. Only they know that their policies are unpopular among the poor, so they won't. They'd rather have these people NOT vote than help them choose the candidate they think is best for America.

      It's sad that some Americans would rather see these people disenfranchised of their voter than see them vote for Obama. It sure seems to speak a LOT about the motives behind the Republicans who are arguing against this.

      This should be happening at EVERY homeless shelter to help them vote. They can vote for whoever they think is best, but they need to vote.

      Now what kind of person would argue against that?
      Thanks to Loneranger85 for trying to be sarcastic, but instead illustrating the fact that Republicans don't want the homeless to get a vote and would rather have their voices not be heard.

      I guess that fits right in with the GOP voter caging going on that targets those who lost their homes.
      • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -2/+3This isn't about "Republican shills" or "Democrat Obamanots". Its about who has the legal right to vote. Once we agree on that definition, then I'll drive vans around for the entire election period to make sure that shutins and others who want to legally vote can.

        Again, we thought we had resolved this 4 and 8 years ago, when voters and votes were turned away. The problem once again comes back to the partisan politicians at the local and state voters boards. They CHOSE not to follow Federal voter laws that would have standardized the policies and procedures for all voters. So before we start pointing fingers at the guys at the top of the ticket, make sure you look closely at those in your own precincts, counties and states. Lets make it fair for everyone!!! Not just looking for loopholes to get an edge at the very last minute to rig the results.

        TriMarkC
    • USArugula, on 10/07/2008, -13/+12I'm sorry, do the homeless no longer possess the right to vote?
    • normlsparky, on 10/07/2008, -6/+8Wow, don't you Libs know that it is a felony to be homeless? Therefore, all homeless people are felons and ineligible to vote. Sarah Palin told me so. Yup, yup.
  • AwthrAwthr, on 10/07/2008, -43/+60I rather doubt that these unidentified voters only voted once. I mean, if you're going to pay someone to vote, wouldn't you want to get your money's worth?

    The best to you.

    Kelley Eidem
    Together we can cure cancer - one person at a time!
    • Charlotte_Web, on 10/07/2008, -14/+18Exactly. I imagine more than a few of these vans made the rounds of polling places.
      • Spuy767, on 10/07/2008, -4/+8So many districts and different shelters that you'll need an excel spreadsheet to keep it straight.
    • TruthinessHurts, on 10/07/2008, -8/+13Of course, because you know that Republican policies are deeply unpopular with the poor you assume they will vote Dem, and then for some reason you assume they are all criminals?

      Is that because they are homeless? Black?
      On what basis are you accusing those doing their American duty to vote criminals?

      This is demonstrative of the Republican hatred of the poor.
      It's sad that your first assumption is they are committing federal crimes because of....what?

      This has been a great issue. It shows how Republicans would rather have the homeless sit quietly in the shelter and NOT take part in our political system. It shows that the accusations of GOP voter caging and fraud have an excellent chance of being true just based on the comments and belief of their followers. It shows that rather than defending the rights of the homeless to have their voices heard the right wing would rather deny them a vote and a voice, simply because they disagree with them.

      I condemn ANYONE losing their vote due to economic conditions. If the GOP/Republicans/right wing shills respected America and our political system THEY would get buses together and make sure these poor folks got to cast their vote.
      But instead we have right wing extremists arguing AGAINST our democracy.



      • ileftfark, on 10/07/2008, -6/+9Wow. A lot of effort for a poor troll. The parent comment made no mention of race or criminal status. I don't know why you'd want to inject those themes where they didn't exist.
      • normlsparky, on 10/07/2008, -8/+1Yeah! What he said! Us real Republicans only openly discriminate against poor people. The rest of the people we discriminate against and disenfranchise are still a secret. Moose lips sink ships ya know.
      • rightwingattila, on 10/08/2008, -3/+5ileftfark, anyone who does not support the NO experienced junior senator NObama is a racists. Or didn't you know that? Like me who's voting for Alan Keyes who isn't really black because he's conservative. Gotta love the lack of intelligence from the kool-aid drinkers. Or maybe they're snorting it these days...
      • txchica, on 10/08/2008, -4/+3Truthlessness, the fact that you refuse to see how the situation can be abused is telling, and that you brought into it race and criminal status says something about your subconscious thoughts (I'd get that checked out if I were you). Now here is a little truth for you, your little registration group, Acorn, had it's Las Vegas office raided because they turned in voter registration forms from some members of the Dallas Cowboys, LOL. And the registrar said they were turning in thousands of applications which was suspicious. And it's not just in Vegas, they're being looked at in other states. So it's not that Repubs are against people voting, they just need to do it legally, which you Dems just don't seem to get.
    • ehalasey, on 10/07/2008, -4/+7Wait, wait, seriously. Where in the article did it say that these people were paid, again?
      And where did it say that they were coerced into voting a certain way again?
      Oh wait. It said neither.
      So let's start from the beginning.
      These are homeless people, who have rights, as citizens, to vote, and who shouldn't because they are:

      a. Likely to be minorities
      b. Unlikely to possess identification
      c. Going to have to register, just like the rest of us, and simply sign, under penalty of perjury, that they are who they are (hi, loophole to voter fraud for anyone anywhere-it's not like this differs when you're not homeless)
      d. Being given a ride to the polling place by people who happen to support a certain candidate
      e. Likely to support that same candidate, as determined by the magical powers of Republican deduction (not like a person's vote is confidential)

      Hm. Why all the fear and hate again?
      • txchica, on 10/08/2008, -2/+3No one is against their voting, just asking that their status be verified as legal. And how is it that people don't have ID when it's time to vote, but have it when it's time to cash a check or get govt. services? As far as giving them a ride, I'm all for it, again just verify that they're legally able to vote. It's not that tough.
      • ehalasey, on 10/08/2008, -2/+2Um, you do realize that's why they have to _register_ to vote, as well, right? That's to confirm that you exist. That's why you have to put in your Social Security or state-issued id number.
        Guess what? Homeless people have Social Security Numbers, too.
      • txchica, on 10/09/2008, -2/+2Of course they have a SSN, if they are legal citizens. But you still have to confirm with a picture ID who you are, you can't just show up and give them a SSN and it's all good. When I registered years ago, I had to have a picture ID and some sort of bill (telephone, Cable etc.) verifying my residence. As far as verification goes, that's was the problem, they could register and vote on the same day, before any verification of their identity could be made. Again, it's an issue of legality, if they're legal, then no problem, but with all the voter irregularities being found in Nevada, Missouri and other states, it would only make sense to verify these people are who they claim to be. What's the problem with that?
      • badqat, on 10/11/2008, -1/+2@ ehalasey - so did dead people...and care to explain how so many dead folks vote every election?
  • BullSenor, on 10/07/2008, -33/+52What LoneRanger said!
    • normlsparky, on 10/07/2008, -5/+5Yeah! Cuz that's easier than copying and pasting his comment, and as an added bonus it requires ZERO thought! Yay for dumb people! Let's keep as many people from voting as we can! I gotta go wave my flag, and polish my flag lapel pin now. Bye!
  • TheNWO, on 10/07/2008, -28/+55This from the same people who fed, bathed, clothed, and gave movie and zoo tickets to the homeless of Denver so that they wouldn't bother the convention goers.
    • tomjeff09, on 10/07/2008, -2/+6Apple meet orange.
    • brad3378, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1The next thing you know, they'll probably force us to take Breathalyzer tests before voting.
    • TheTaoOfBill, on 10/09/2008, -1/+2That's not the democrats. That's the city of Denver. That's what every city does when a large event comes to their city.

      It's to make their city look better to encourage tourism and new residents.
  • DrJen, on 10/07/2008, -29/+441960s Chicago... This is the last thing we need to bring back from the 'good old days.'
  • ouorama, on 10/07/2008, -34/+50You know what the Democrats motto is: Vote early and often.
    • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -3/+3Spoken like a true Chicagoan! :-)
    • honeybrass, on 10/08/2008, -3/+3The Republicans is: Don't vote at all.
  • reland1, on 10/07/2008, -37/+42Line em up! If Obama gets elected they'll be the first load in the railroad cars!
  • Rich711, on 10/07/2008, -36/+44The guy in the story admitted he was a convicted felon, felons are not legally allowed to vote. Terrorists and Convicted Felons agree, Vote for Obama.
    • reed311, on 10/07/2008, -11/+20There are only two states which impose a lifelong ban on allowing felons to vote. It would seem as though the time has passed and he is allowed to vote. But, please, these threads are a source of great disinformation, don't let any facts stand in the way.
      • Rich711, on 10/08/2008, -1/+2It would seem... he didnt have to show any I.D. so how would anyone know?
    • thejimmyo, on 10/07/2008, -5/+12"felons are not legally allowed to vote"

      Only a few states have put up that precondition to voting. So people like John McCain's friend G. Gordon Liddy (who participated in Watergate, plotted some murders and served some jail time) can actually vote - just not in certain states.
      • Rich711, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1G.Gordon Liddy is nuts he shouldnt be voting. BUT, all states have some period of time that a felon is not allowed to vote, and since in this case he didnt need to show any I.D. to register or vote early, we'll never know.
    • uncleosbert, on 10/08/2008, -4/+4our founding fathers agreed that all men were created equal and i agree with them. vote obama.
    • Pureeviljester, on 10/08/2008, -1/+4which is pure crap because they already served their time. so when they get out they should be able to vote
      • Rich711, on 10/08/2008, -0/+3That is just one of many restrictions placed on felons, like owning a fire arm, hanging out with other convicted felons, owning property. It's just the only one that's popular for democrats to fight for. I dont see any libs demanding felons be allowed to own property, that would see a little more important to turning their life around.
  • siszam, on 10/07/2008, -30/+33It's fitting that the people who have suffered most from Bush's war on the non elite should be the ones voting for change. It's long overdue. Notice all the hateful comments directed toward people simply because they are poor. Shame on you Republicans. That is not what Jesus would do.
    The way the economy is going you might be homeless soon. When you are, remember your words.
    • LoneRanger85, on 10/07/2008, -15/+23How do you know what Jesus would do? Nobody is saying that the poor don't have a right to vote. What is in dispute is whether these people are even eligible to vote. They have no proof of residency. And a register and vote program is a golden opportunity to commit fraud.
      • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -7/+1Agreed - see my (lengthy) comment above
    • mrpetey, on 10/07/2008, -17/+20siszam - what a loser! I have yet to see a "hateful" comment. If anything it towards the empty headed boob called NoBama and his herd of crooks and thugs making sure NoBama wins nationally the same way, the ONLY way he could win in Chicago - stealing elections.

      The Ohio election laws are a shame and a joke. If you want to vote PROVE you are a citizen of Ohio and have it verified. Too many dems will lie like H3ll to make sure the only thing that happens is that their candidates get in office. Power is the only thing that matters.
    • PolishLogic, on 10/07/2008, -12/+8"That is not what Jesus would do."

      Jesus also banged hookers...your point?
      • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -3/+1burying for insensitivity and historical inaccuracy
      • PolishLogic, on 10/08/2008, -3/+3Historical inaccuracy? You're kidding right?
      • LoneRanger85, on 10/08/2008, -3/+2OK, if you won't accept historical inaccuracy, how about anti-Christian bigotry?
      • Evilena, on 10/08/2008, -1/+4Historical inaccuracy because Jesus never existed.
      • eir574, on 10/08/2008, -0/+4"OK, if you won't accept historical inaccuracy, how about anti-Christian bigotry?"

        You think a lack of respect for your god constitutes bigotry? I respect your right to believe in your god and to think whatever you want about Jesus. Failing to believe that you're making the correct judgement and failure to show the same level of respect to Jesus that you would do not constitute bigotry. They constitute a difference of opinion.
  • Wosat, on 10/07/2008, -19/+35FTA: "I never voted before," Woods said, because of a felony conviction that previously barred him from the polls. "Without this service, I would have had no way to get here."
  • whoreable, on 10/07/2008, -23/+32I think this is great. It empowers people who have been marginalized by society.
    • mrpetey, on 10/07/2008, -21/+20NO, the election laws empower the Dems to lie and steal in order to get power. The dems could really care less about these people, the socialist are just using them to make sure the the empty headed boob a.k.a. Obama gets into office.
      • shadus, on 10/08/2008, -2/+5So it's ok that republicans buy the last election by paying off officials in Ohio? We just finished prosecuting them. Lots of jail time to go around.

        ... but it's not okay to take people to register and vote who are part of the country... even if you attempted to persuade them to vote a certain way you have no way of knowing if they did or didn't... and no where did it say they were attempting to do anything shady.

        Interesting standard you have there. 1 Man, 1 Vote, even the republicans don't have a right to exclude people.

        I'm writing a third party in personally because as a traditional conservative both parties more or a less make me want to be ill... but I find it entirely hysterical that you neo-cons are up in arms about what the liberals are doing, when what you did last election was against the law completely, at least they're following the letter of the law rather than outright doing something illegal.

        The difference between a liberal and neo-con? What businesses are having their pockets lined. End of story.
    • TheNWO, on 10/07/2008, -15/+9You don't care that a sizable number of these homeless people either suffer from a mental disability like schizophrenia or have a drug or alcohol addiction, right? You don't care that most of these homeless people probably don't know much about what's going on in the world?
      • ssn697, on 10/07/2008, -4/+15Except for the schizophrenia part, you described a large portion of the voting public.

        Americans consume more drugs per person than any other country in the world. We have one of the highest addiction rates in the world. Our (lack of) knowledge of our own government has been widely documented.

        So, where do you draw the line? Who gets to decide who makes the cut for voting? If these people can legally vote, who gets to decide whether they are "worthy" or not?

        John McCain's wife is a former drug addict. Does she get disqualified?
      • Herkimer56, on 10/07/2008, -6/+6Why did you exclude the schizophrenia part? Did you not watch the conventions? :P
      • TheNWO, on 10/07/2008, -6/+9Good points and all, ssn, but at least John McCain's wife has to identify herself when she registers to vote and when she votes.
      • USArugula, on 10/07/2008, -2/+7Mental disabilities do not void people of their right to participate in society. This isn't Nazi Germany.
      • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1"Worthy" isn't the point. Rather, the points are (1) are they mentally competent to vote their own opinion, and (2) are they being swayed by their desire for (food/drugs/alcohol)?

        Admittedly, we are all swayed by something when we vote, but for the most part we are competent enough to understand the issues, and what we are voting for and against.

        Back to a prior point, re: "most of these people don't care about our country anyway", I'm not sure if that is a valid statement. But, if for argument's sake it is true, does that point make them competent or incompetent voters? I would argue incompetent, since then they are not "voting", but simply following orders.

        And, of course, none of this answers the original question of legal voters that this state's laws create. If Federal laws require that each voter's identity be verified before they be allowed to vote, then it begs the question of whether these voters' choices should be counted? The law allows the voting board a prescribed time to verify voter identify before issuing a voter's card, and if the voter does not have valid legal identification documents, then they are supposed to use property records, prior drivers license records, etc. By eliminating that identification verification, and violating Federal voter law, there is the possibility that whether these individuals are rightful voters or not, it is possible their votes could be (and maybe should be, to force governments to follow the law unilaterally) dropped, marked as illegal.

        What is so frustrating is that the Federal voter laws were changed first 8 years ago and then again 4 years ago, to avoid the pain and disenfranchisement that some voters experienced. Our local and state governments were given years to work out the right way to do this, and make sure we all can vote properly. But so very sadly, they chose not to, and now "following the law" has become another political football. Again.

        TriMarkC
      • normlsparky, on 10/07/2008, -1/+5You do realize that a large percentage of homeless people are veterans, don't you? Many of their problems are associated with the horrible events they have witnessed during times of war. Things that haunt them for the remainder of their lives and interfere with their ability to function normally in society. Why do republicans "support our troops" only until they come home? If people who fought for our country don't deserve the right to vote, no one does.
  • Cosmo96, on 10/07/2008, -24/+13Heck if someone offered to buy me a cheap bottle of wine and drive me around town I would vote for Obama!
    • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -5/+3What I find so ironic here is that Cosmo96's comment is voted down by 10 people! For what!? That's what the article is saying is being done with these homeless people.
  • DerangedPenguin, on 10/07/2008, -27/+26Wonder how many of these down and outers have a criminal history that would make them ineligible to vote? How many have felony drug convictions, violent assault convictions, which one broke into you home last year and ripped off the silverware?
    • uncleosbert, on 10/08/2008, -2/+4i wonder how many people on dig have a criminal history. maybe we should check before they can submit stories. i'm sure there are many ways to keep the riff raff out of this system...

      or maybe you can explain why you are so unnerved by people exercising their rights? it's only a few states that deny felons the right to vote. the easiest way to erode democracy is to control the number of participants.
  • woodrow8292, on 10/07/2008, -28/+24Nice to see them herding in votes to rig the election. I wonder if they asked who they were voting for before they gave them a ride? wonder how many McCain voters were told to go stand on the curb and wait for a ride that never came?
    • mtg1287, on 10/07/2008, -5/+10Rigging an election by having people vote? That makes perfect sense.
      • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -7/+3No rigging an election by offering them food and money for a specific vote cast.
      • uncleosbert, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1what exactly do you think tax cuts are?
    • shadus, on 10/08/2008, -2/+2None, I'm willing to wager they didn't even ask. It would put them above reproach and quite honestly, since the democrats are willing to support universal health care... they get all of the homeless vote more or a less.
    • threepio, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Perhaps instead of wondering you should place some pressure on your representative to ask for an investigation into the process.

      Hopefully you can prepare for the "I told you so" when it's shown that nothing ill-towards transpired. Not everyone is out to game the system.
      • kmolleja, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1"Not everyone is out to game the system"

        Seriously? If you are involved in politics at all that is all you do. Every politician in every party does so.
  • DCMacHead, on 10/07/2008, -29/+22Truly sickening.
    • shadus, on 10/08/2008, -2/+3Truly, How dare they let someone who is unlikely to vote like you want them to vote have a say in who becomes president.
  • mareln72, on 10/07/2008, -21/+20Ohio is only the tip of the iceberg question every state.Also polls lie don't believe any of them..They're going to win no matter what it takes.Unless we wake -up.The truth means nothing its merely an inconvenience.
    • shadus, on 10/08/2008, -1/+3That would make this election like every other election then.

      It's not who wins the votes it's who cheats the best.

      No different than 2000, no different than 2004.

      I live in ohio, we just finished prosecuting the idiots who helped the republican party commit voter fraud the last two presidential elections. We should get rid of the entire electoral college and use a direct election system, 1 man, 1 vote. We need to make the systems open and accountable first though. Diebold isn't helping.
  • primaldefense, on 10/07/2008, -22/+20Ahhh Voter Fraud. I am sure it is rampant in many areas in states like Ohio and WI. Heck here in WI our State Election Board is refusing to comply with Federal Law, by going through the voter records and comparing them to Dept of Transportation Driver's License records to make sure that fraud isn't occurring. Since the state election board refuses to do this, my local community can't even check their records. There are multiple ppl who are on the voter roll who no longer live at the address next door to me. They have been gone for years now. Yet for the past few years someone has voted in their name, even though they are no longer living even in this state. Our hands are tied so nothing can change due to lazy politicians who I bet are getting some sort of promise for money or power or a even better position by helping with fraud. I don't judge by political party, but I do judge by their actions and the actions of ppl who get ppl to vote fraudulently has got to be one of the worst things you can do to take advantage of a broken system and make it a now unfair election for those of us who are law-abiding.
    • niradg, on 10/07/2008, -5/+6*****. How do you know that these people next door to you are on the rolls and had someone vote in their name? There is no way you can know that, unless you've done something illegal.
      • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -4/+5Niradg - Note that primaldefense noted at start that there is a Federal law to verify identity, and that the Wisconsin State Election Board is refusing to comply.

        So because you don't know how this person had access to voter information, therefore everything else he said is false, or to use your term, "*****"? Do you know of every way that someone can legally or illegally access voter records?

        How about campaign donor records? There are laws about making those public, and yet the Obama campaign refuses to release all those. So based on your logic, everything the Obama campaign says or does must be false, too.

        Just checkin' to make sure I got your methodology correct, so I can apply it correctly.
      • SillyRabbits, on 10/08/2008, -3/+4niradg, voter registration and whether they voted in any particular election is part of the public record. You may want to make yourself better informed before you spout nonsense. Doubt me? Post your name and address and I'll tell you every election you've voted in. :)
      • primaldefense, on 10/08/2008, -1/+2Thank you TriMarkC and SillyRabbits. It is true that Voter Records are public Record, and the fact that members of my church help run the voting booth where I used to live, and the fact that I enjoyed helping them for years, does give me some great background on how the system really works. Where I live now is just horrible in WI. Yeah our wonderful Attorney General is sueing them but oru legal system is dragging their feet and really not moving forward well on it.
    • normlsparky, on 10/08/2008, -2/+3You are completely clueless. The Wisconsin Attorney General is suing the Government Accountability Board to remove legally registered voters from the rolls after he attended the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, where former White House political czar Karl Rove met with the state's delegation to urge ramped up action to win the closely contested state for Republican nominees John McCain and Sarah Palin.

      http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/307235

      and

      http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/101987/wisconsi ...

      FTA:

      "It makes little sense to strip Americans of the right to vote based on an unsuccessful effort to match voter information with another government data base, especially when federal law not only does not require it but even prohibits it," Hebert said. "The Attorney General's suit, if successful, would result in the needless and unfair disenfranchisement of thousands of registered voters on the eve of Election Day for something as simple as having registered to vote using a middle initial instead of one's full middle name as it may appear on a driver's license."

      This is just more of the same crap republicans have been pulling for years. Unfortunately for them, the public is wising up to their unethical behavior.
      • primaldefense, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1Yeah, if you paid attention to past issues with voter fraud in Wisconsin you would realize that we need to make sure we don't have ppl voting outside the district where they live, or using fake addresses. Remember when Milwaukee officials discovered a number of addresses didn't even exist and yet people voted and claimed to live at those addresses.

        If someone gets their name pulled from the list due to the inability to match their info to know it is correct, thanks to state law they can reregister to vote the same day as elections. So where is the problem here. Yes the DMV records are not perfect but they can help us weed out the bad, and we can continue to work on things to help get things close to that perfect set of records that are accurate and true.

        BTW, great job citing completely biased new reporting. Do the research yourself please and look at the actual federal law that we must abide by - Help America Vote Act of 2002, 42 U.S.C. ยง15301 et seq. I do not wish to see votes cast by people who are obeying the law be canceled out by people voting illegally. How does that help my vote truely count. Does that make it fair for me and my fellow americans who are simply obeying the law and exercising their right to vote. I am fine with people wanting to vote, more power to them. Let them do it though within the law and I could care less who they vote for, as long as it is the person they feel is the better choice.

        I think we can all agree that we want our vote to count, and we dont' want illegal votes done by anyone on whatever political side they are on to ruin or cancel out our vote, causing scewing or problems. I can see states like Ohio and WI deciding this election this year. Lets keep things fair and lawful so we DON'T have a repeat of Florida's issues.
      • normlsparky, on 10/09/2008, -0/+2Reasonable standards are in place in my district. We can show up to register with a state issued ID and a utility bill to prove our place of residence. There are reasonable standards in place in most districts already. If someone commits vote fraud, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Barring voters from casting legal ballots based on typos is ridiculous. This is the kind of crap that gives the Republican party a bad name.


        My last name happens to have an apostrophe in it. All government databases may not contain that apostrophe. I know this because many of my bills, registrations, etc. come to my house with this error, and trying to get govt. agencies to correct the mistake is sometimes impossible. Should my voting rights be denied because of this? Evidently the Attorney General would think so.

        As a Wisconsin resident, I will be watching this case closely. I anxiously await the Oct. 23rd decision.
      • primaldefense, on 10/10/2008, -0/+1Thats what I did to vote in the primary election and prove my residency and new address. My former home town I know did remove my name from the records, so I feel safe about my name not being misused. Plus that town is small so everyone knows each other so that helps a little too.:P

        I totally agree that vote fraud needs to be prosecuted fully normlsparky, but it seems like so often things get ignored. Barring ppl from voting due to a typo is stupid, but I always make sure to have everything along to correct mistakes if it has happend so that I can vote w/o any problem and still help them develop a good list of names that are correct, accurate, and will be useful for preventing fraud. Where is barring ppl from voting going on? I haven't heard of this happening. I can see not letting them vote if they cannot prove residency by having a legal state id and mail to show that the address is real and matches your ID.
  • mattatlsu, on 10/07/2008, -16/+11Unbelievable...it's looking worse for McCain every day. I thought all those people that said they were moving to Canada when Bush was elected were tools, I think I just might pack my bags when Obama and Biden are sworn in. Maybe there's still hope...
    • SAR2009, on 10/07/2008, -10/+9Don't leave. If these vermin take control of this nation, it will be time to rise up as our ancestors did in 1774-5.
    • jstreveln, on 10/07/2008, -4/+7have a nice trip.come back when you cant stay so long!
      P.S. take your friends with you when you go.
  • DuggDowner, on 10/07/2008, -17/+27The phony war hero will be sent packing this November.
    • btschul, on 10/07/2008, -12/+5Phony? Care to explain? Ohhh.....you must be referring to Kerry, whose medals were obtained for injuries from a grenade he threw too close to himself and a wound from a piece of shrapnel that only required a bandaid.
    • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -12/+3"Phony" how? Facts would be nice, even just now and then.
      • honeybrass, on 10/08/2008, -0/+3You obviously don't read digg, just troll it.
    • tomjeff09, on 10/07/2008, -11/+1Hey, if you can't beat him fair and square, go ahead and cheat right? The ends justify the means. Both are pieces of ***** who have no business getting anywhere near the oval office.

      What a pathetic individual with an appropriate handle.
  • WoofThis, on 10/07/2008, -27/+22Vote Obama - Free Malt Liquor
  • pearcewg, on 10/07/2008, -19/+12I'm sure that almost every single homeless person is a Democrat anyway, so this is just a "get out the vote" campaign.
  • smallnshort247, on 10/07/2008, -17/+7Any homeless person who isn't a democrat is on dope.
    • solboldi, on 10/07/2008, -3/+9many homeless are drug addicts.
      • smallnshort247, on 10/08/2008, -0/+3I was just trying to get a point across.
  • algaeturd, on 10/07/2008, -19/+37Hey everyone! Republican circle jerk in the 'No shirt, no shoes, vote Obama' thread!!!"
    You guys are pathetic. Only republicans would think it's EVIL to register people so that they can enjoy their God given right to vote.
    You're also horrible hypocrites. You talk about war and conflict and brave soldiers but then when people are registered to EXERCISE that right given to them by the previous wars and conflicts, you COMPLAIN about it.
    Idiots. YOU guys are the reason this country has been damaged beyond repair. Look around, fools. THIS is the country YOU created and the one YOU destroyed with your horrible republican leaders that have stabbed this whole nation in the back, given away billions of dollars and causing the economic collapse.
    I hope you're proud. I KNOW you're proud.
    • Wosat, on 10/07/2008, -14/+11The Republicans fight to make sure the soldier's vote is counted as Democrats aim to disenfranchise them.

      The Democrats fight to make sure the ex-felons, homeless, incarcerated, and those who've generally failed at life get their vote counted (by bribing them with goodies).

      I'm comfortable with the Republicans, thanks.
      • homercles337, on 10/07/2008, -5/+11Youre also totally clueless. In 2004 how many votes in FL were thrown out because many were registered at the same address? A military base that housed large numbers of minorities. Yep, those repugs were definitely fighting to make sure the soldiers vote is counted.
      • TriMarkC, on 10/07/2008, -10/+4They should have put their correct address on the base, then!! Burying your comment for a ridiculous claim of racism, when the facts of that situation were that a number of individuals were told how to vote and given repetitive information to use.
      • normlsparky, on 10/08/2008, -3/+7"The Republicans fight to make sure the soldier's vote is counted as Democrats aim to disenfranchise them."

        This is inaccurate. Many homeless people are veterans. The homeless rate for vets of the 2 wars we are fighting right now is increasing daily.

        http://m.cnn.com/cnn/archive/archive/detail/134921 ...

        A more accurate statement would be "Republicans support our troops, right up until they come home."
      • shadus, on 10/08/2008, -3/+4The only problem is, the republicans are screwing the soldiers over as much or more so than the democrats anymore. At one time it was true the republicans were for the common solider and for maintaining our civil liberties. It's not true anymore. Not since the neo-cons took over the republican party.

        Conservatives are for the military, neo-cons are for lining their own pockets at everyone's expense, we've not had a real conservative in office in many many years. Neo-cons are no different from spend happy liberals, they just spend the money on different things.

        Nice attempt at demonizing democrats though, what's the saying, "If you live in a glass house be wary of casting stones."
    • lajaw, on 10/08/2008, -1/+3The right to vote is not a God given right. That right is given to you by your state.
      • kayala, on 10/09/2008, -1/+1Um... no. The state cannot give you a single right. The state can protect certain rights and decide to never, ever touch them, and the state can put certain restrictions on certain rights, but the state can never give you a right.
    • brad3378, on 10/08/2008, -2/+2Don't blame me.
      I voted for Ron Paul.
  • AKWookiee, on 10/07/2008, -14/+11I don't think the issue is whether or not these people should be allowed to register to vote. The issue is whether or not they should be allowed to register and vote on the same day without confirmation of identity or residency. This loophole is very problematic in terms of potential for voter fraud. The fact that either campaign would organize and seek to capitalize on this loophole is shifty and abusive.
    • jstreveln, on 10/07/2008, -3/+3like it or not right or wrong the repubs are only angry they didn't think of it first.it was within state law.now if you want lessons in voter fraud.i suggest you all look back too the glorious days of your great leader geoge w bush 2000.Now there is a man and a party who know how to steal an election!
      • Spuy767, on 10/07/2008, -2/+3If the republicans did this, their would be an outcry on digg et al.
      • shadus, on 10/08/2008, -1/+2The republicans wouldn't do that. I live in Ohio, I'm an expert on republican voting fraud. They buy off election commissioners and pay off people running the polls in areas they don't have support to lose the ballots, throw them away, or have them disappear for several days then reappear coming up with support for the republican candidate. We just finished prosecuting the last round of idiots for voting fraud in Ohio. Maybe it will deter some of the voting fraud this election, but I doubt it.
  • PolishLogic, on 10/07/2008, -15/+17People affiliated with one campaign or another should not have this type of influence over these folks (who probably couldn't even tell you who the candidates are). Hell, they might as well say "we'll give you $20, and all you have to do is vote for ______"

    Furthermore, it would be nice to see voter registration actually make the attempt to find out who you are before letting you vote. Otherwise, a person could register in one place, vote, head to another, vote, head to another vote, etc. Considering Ohio's past shenanigans, it wouldn't be surprising to learn that these registrations were just tossed out the back door into a dumpster, while the ballots find their way to the counters.
  • UltramegaOK, on 10/07/2008, -8/+32Homeless people have just as much of a right to vote as anyone else.

    "All men are created equal" -- and yes you retards, this includes those without houses.
    • Olon97, on 10/07/2008, -5/+13Also includes WWII veterans who earned 10 medals fighting for our freedom.

      http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2008/10/05/opin ...

      Stay classy Repubs.
    • Wosat, on 10/07/2008, -13/+8Nobody here is against their *right* to vote.

      If a homeless person has enough of an interest in the process to register and vote, I'm fine with that. If someone has no clue what's going on, spends their days in a drunken and/or drug-induced stupor, has no interest in voting, but registers and votes for Obama to get money for drugs, I have a problem with that. Don't you?
      • TheMachine1, on 10/07/2008, -3/+5"votes for Obama to get money for drugs"

        Since a large percent of homeless people need expensive medications for serious health problems like schizophrenia you might be right. The drugs most abuse by homeless schizophrenics is tobacco and alcohol if better prescription drugs were available they would use them instead.
      • ehalasey, on 10/07/2008, -1/+7Wait, where does it say that these people were given anything other than a ride to the polling place? No, seriously. Where, again? I just can't find it! Gosh, and it's only how many lines of text?
        I just . . . don't . . . see where these people were paid.
        Man. You must have amazing skills at reading in between those lines of text. All 17 of them.
  • cptshamrock, on 10/07/2008, -16/+4The vote really needs to be restricted to those who pay federal income taxes. Because then you get a very large group of voters who don't contribute to the revenue of the federal government indirectly deciding how to spend the revenue. If this was the case, I can assure you the government would have a balanced budget. Instead we have politicians trying to get votes from those who don't contribute via pork and other earmarks.
    • thejimmyo, on 10/07/2008, -2/+9This is what the Constitution says:

      Amendment 24 - Poll Tax Barred

      1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

      2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
      • cptshamrock, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1Doesn't mean its right. We once had an amendment that barred sale of Alcohol. This amendment was obviously made to appeal to those who dont pay taxes.
    • IdigObama, on 10/07/2008, -3/+10You're Anti American!
      It's people like you who have put America in the He!! it is now!
      • cptshamrock, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1I'm more pro-american than you ever could be. I recognize that government is almost never the answer to our problems. I recognize that we are no longer a federal government but a socialist government.
    • TheMachine1, on 10/07/2008, -0/+4In the beginning we had no vote. The country was ran by the UK. Then white males, 21 years old that own land could vote.
      I think it took the civil war to give blacks limited voting , 1920's for women to vote, around mid 20th centruy to remove poll taxes, and Vietnam War to give 18 years old the vote.
    • jstreveln, on 10/07/2008, -1/+3people who dont know what their country stands for or what a democracy is should not be allowed to vote.personaly i dont think they should be allowed to speak.so shut the ***** up!
      • cptshamrock, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1A democracy thrives when everyone contributes, people who don't pay taxes don't contribute. And how very civil of you. May you should read the constitution. Then read the bill of rights. See amendment #1. so you really don't understand our democracy if you're asking me not to be allowed to speak.
    • MelvinSchlubman, on 10/08/2008, -0/+2@cptshamrock

      How long before you then say that tax payers must pay $X in taxes before they can vote? Another notch for the power elite neocons. (Although, that would hit some of the fat-cats who have good lawyers and accountants.)

      I'm usually leery of slippery-slope arguments, but in this case you went over the edge right from the start by proposing an unconstitutional poll tax.
      • cptshamrock, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Well the income tax is unconstitutional too but you don't see that being discussed. If we got rid of the income tax, I agree that everyone should then be allowed to vote. But with the vast amount of pandering that must be done to appease those who don't contribute, it's not hard to figure out why we have no money.
  • JenniferInMO, on 10/07/2008, -8/+23"Ohio law gives people with felony convictions the right to vote immediately upon release from incarceration, regardless of whether they are on parole, probation, or under community supervision." Still, the Ohio Department of Corrections deters released convicted felons from registering and voting: http://www.alternet.org/election04oh/20009/
    • AWBoy666, on 10/07/2008, -9/+10JenniferInMO - Your shout regarding this story has been reported to Digg's admin team. Please read below:

      ---WARNING TO LIBERAL BURY BRIGADE---

      Digg has affirmed that shouting a story for the purposes of having it buried is AGAINST THE TOS. Your account will be BANNED for shouting with instructions to bury a story.

      For the sake of your account, please take this into consideration. Thanks!

      (If you are curious, this action violates the sentence: "participating in any other organized effort that in any way artificially alters the results of Digg's services" as told to me by Digg's administration.)
      • ironhide, on 10/08/2008, -2/+6Get bent loser. I expect Jennifer will outlast you. You're whining because she posted a fact that deflates your ***** excuse for a story. Also I just reported you for threatening another user.
      • nicegeek, on 10/08/2008, -2/+4using fear and intimidation to keep people from participating seems to be second nature for the republicans.
      • kayala, on 10/09/2008, -1/+2Nice dig at all the liberals who are working in concert against your crusade for the truth, AWBoy. Now take your meds like a good little boy and you might get a lollipop.
    • brad3378, on 10/08/2008, -4/+1Q: What's the difference between a homeless person and a typical digg supporter?
      A: The homeless person is more familiar with the issues.
  • alapoet, on 10/07/2008, -9/+21Christ, you dumb ***** are desperate, aren't you?

    Now, voting is bad, because you don't like the way they're voting.
    • ehalasey, on 10/07/2008, -1/+8Worse even, they're so freaked out about the prospect of homeless people voting--because they're perceived as more likely to vote Obama--that they're making up most of the "details" of this story.
    • goflyers, on 10/08/2008, -2/+1uninformed voting is bad. fortunately for all of us the President does not have as much influence as many believe. we have a balance of power as is drawn out in the Constitution. many also unfortunately have the shortsightedness to just place blame on their situation where they deem convenient rather than doing any research
  • IdigObama, on 10/07/2008, -6/+22A litany of McCain lies exposed. The Annenberg Challenge (CAC), of which Ayers wrote the grant, was funded by Republican Walter Annenberg, an Ambassador under Nixon and friend and supporter of President Reagan's. Obama was recruited to the bipartisan Board by Pat Graham, not Ayers. And no, Ayers never held a fundraiser for Obama. Read the facts.

    http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/10/o ...

    Digg: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Nixon_Official_a ...

    And this is Buried for being a Smear Against Obama/Biden!
  • jstreveln, on 10/07/2008, -6/+21well last time i checked homeless Americans were still Americans and entitled to all the same rights as the rest of us.and church groups have been doing the same for repubs for years! besides with todays market.it might be you who needs a ride next election.especially if McCain gets to give us 4 more of the same!
  • niradg, on 10/07/2008, -7/+25Apparently, Republicans don't think our most needy citizens should vote.
    • Hoffpa, on 10/08/2008, -5/+1that is your defense? really? I am surprised they didn't give cigarettes out also.
  • ileftfark, on 10/07/2008, -4/+9People performing a service, allowing the less fortunate to have a chance at civic involvement, OR people gaming the system and exploiting the uneducated to further their own agenda?

    I know which one I'd like to believe...
  • IdigObama, on 10/07/2008, -5/+8Looks like the Palins Really were involved with terrorist!

    The Palins' Secessionist Group Was Supported By Iran!

    The entry links to a Salon.com article that talks about how Todd Palin, Sarah's husband, belonged to a secessionist group, the Alaskan Independence Party. Iran, the sponsor of terrorism, also sponsored the founder of the Alaskan Independence Party to speak before the United Nations in 1993.

    http://digg.com/politics/The_Palins_Secessionist_G ...

  • tomjeff09, on 10/07/2008, -7/+2I'd love to see the reactions from the Demoncrats if the Rethuglicans pulled this *****. Both parties are corrupt and only serve to continue the downward spiral of this nation.
  • powatom, on 10/07/2008, -2/+9What's the problem? Homeless people have a right to vote too. Sure, no permanent address, yada yada yada. Nobody said democracy was flawless. Either homeless people can vote, or they're not allowed at all. You can't have your cake and eat it.
  • PistolSO, on 10/07/2008, -1/+7The GOP is really low if they think that only people who live in a house should be able to vote. I'm glad Obama is trying to give people the ability to exercise their God-given right to vote.
  • doctorf1956, on 10/07/2008, -7/+1Look at the tripe the liberaltards come back with in response to this article. The main point here is identification of the perspective voter and proper documentation that the individual has voted one time. Its the crats who are desperate here because they view winning in a political arena as a right. If left wing liberaltards do not win, then they assume that they were cheated. The arrogance of these people is unwarranted. Its that left wing crats that need to pay attention here. Their guy is not running away with this.
  • algaeturd, on 10/07/2008, -2/+7YEAH! You should have to be RICH to vote!
    What a bunch of hypocritical elitists. EVERY legal citizen of the United States should be encouraged to exercise their right to vote. How is that bad? Since they don't have Ivy league educations and million dollar parachutes?
    You have BILLIONAIRES that the republicans helped create (we saw this the past few weeks...) but poor people CAN'T vote?
    Republicans are laugh riot. Seriously. Only they could try to twist this and slant it into a negative story.
  • ObamaWins08, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1I wonder what would happen if they went to all the nursing homes and did the same thing with older people?
    Just curious...
  • shadus, on 10/08/2008, -1/+5The poor and homeless aren't entitled to a vote now? 1 Man, 1 Vote. I think you should have to present some form of ID, and hey, last I went to vote you did... in fact they ran me through the wringer on required documentation. If the people could present their documentation, more power to em. I'm glad to see another citizen voted regardless of who they voted for. Any traditional conservative should be glad to see more people vote, our voting turn out numbers are absolutely embarrassing at best.
  • Hoffpa, on 10/08/2008, -3/+3Is it our responsibility to be able to vote, or is it to make a educated vote? Democrats again taking advantage of the less educated.
    • deathsythe, on 10/08/2008, -1/+2Unfortunately that is the truth.

      Voting is a privilege, not a right.

    • kayala, on 10/09/2008, -2/+1Oh, I see. Helping the homeless to exercise their rights is taking advantage of them! They shouldn't have the right in the first place! They're POOR!
      Sigh.
  • OffPiste, on 10/08/2008, -4/+2I'm a bar owner in a 50/50 red/blue county in a swing state. The only way to make money in these parts is to run a standard sports bar/NASCRAP Sundays catering to the dumbass rednecks that infest my county. The cultured educated crowd certainly don't spend their money in bars like mine. I'm a BIG Obama supporter and I plan to stick it to the low IQ crowd come 3 Nov. I'm planning on having a "Support the Troops" gathering with 10 cent a beer all you can drink night. Hopefully all the rednecks will be so hung over or arrested for DUI that it will make a difference in the vote come the next day. I urge all Obama supporters to think up new and inventive ways to ensure that Obama wins. Even a few votes could make a difference.

    Vote Change
    Vote Obama
  • poprocksandsoda, on 10/08/2008, -2/+2They usually also round up convicted felons who can't vote ... sounds like the Dems are losing their edge.
  • stinkypinky72, on 10/08/2008, -3/+1"olunteers" ?
  • eliot2000, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1Ohio's election system is at best, of questionable integrity. Fewer machines are provided in places where Democrat votes are likely to come in, not to mention the no-accountability computerized voting systems being used in many places. This shouldn't be necessary, but it is.
  • tycity, on 10/08/2008, -3/+3PistolSO, you are so right! Jesus would not have excluded anyone from voting... God-given right is right. I'm a modern Muslim woman. But even I know that Jesus, who was an amazing human being and icon to me and many Muslims in the world, would have given the poor and downtrodden first dibs at anything. Republicans like to pretend they are so God-fearing and Christian. Well, guess what? Jesus was a passivist and a community organizer. And I ADMIRE what the Obama camp is doing to help the poor make important decisions, like voting, to give them a voice in this election.

    Obama/Biden '08 all the way to Washington!!!
  • jojopumpkin, on 10/08/2008, -2/+1This is a drop in the bucket compared to what the GOP did in the past few elections.

    This movie should help you understand

    http://www.freeforall.tv/
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