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- 4wheel, on 10/12/2007, -124/+12"Obama ridicules Cheney's Iraq comments"
So do the terrorist and liberals. Are they on the same side?- sobriquet, on 10/12/2007, -48/+16Obama is walking a very fine line with the withdrawal issue. The British were able to withdraw from the south for reasons we cannot, stability. There's very few that want us to stay there indefinitely, but putting a fixed deadline on withdrawal is just asking for trouble. Leaving to soon would merely exaggerate the current humanitarian crisis. It really comes down to a lesser of two evils, if you'll pardon the cliche.
- Humptydank, on 10/12/2007, -27/+8
I really like Obama, but no matter what the issue is he's starting way too early. There's no way he can sustain a strong, enthusiastic, public campaign in the press for 600+ days.
He should be spending his time building his campaign organization and avoid engaging on these things until we get closer to the election. The entire meaningful public already hates Bush, Cheney, and their strategies, there's nothing to win here. Let Congress do the fighting for now (wish they would...), make sure you have tons of money and volunteers in every state, and then a year out really start in for good. - TexMurphy, on 10/12/2007, -23/+21Google Video: THE PEOPLE V. RICHARD CHENEY
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1209141874762642184
Lets inpeach Cheney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - tharju, on 10/12/2007, -14/+8@sobriquet
agree with your statement about stability over there under UK control..so how about relocating them to Baghdad to assist US Troops? Arne't we suppose to be on the same page? US just sent more troops over there. - Rikkochet, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38@4wheel
Yes, Ms. Coulter, they are. - FlaG8r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@Humptydank
He has to do it to try and make up ground on Hillary in the money race. With key states like California wanting to move their primaries up, he has to raise a lot of money to compete on the airwaves. That means making a lot of appearances and giving a lot of speeches. - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+404wheel: "So do the terrorist and liberals. Are they on the same side?"
OMG the terrorists believe in the right to own guns and oppose abortion and gay marriage--they must be on the same side as the Republicans! /sarcasm
People that talk like this always crack me up. Just because terrorists (or anybody else) is for or against something doesn't automatically mean we should be for the opposite. Intelligent people are actually able to evaluate ideas based on their individual merits. You ought to try it. - sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22You can say what you want about his lack of experience, but this guy really shows signs of being a natural leader. As displayed in this speech Obama has a knack for hitting the nail on the head. It seems to work in his favor that he hasn't yet been corrupted by decades in Washington DC, I think he's exactly what the White House needs right now.
- thefirstenemy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Yeah, spite is a wonderful reason to stay in a war that can't be won.
Way to stick it to the liberals and terrorists at the same time 4wheel. - fauxXenophanes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10If it's such a " good sign", why the ***** don't we pull out too ?
- deesnutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Great, now Cheney just sent Barack Obama an invitation to go quail hunting with him.
But I think Barack Obama knows better. Isn't it refreshing that a politician is bringing some truth to light instead of blatant lies. I mean come on, who the hell does Cheney think he's fooling. If the British pulled out because their area in Iraq is stable, why didn't they send them to Baghdad to help the Americans secure Baghdad.
The British want out because Blair finally figured out that there's no sense in putting his troops into the middle of a civil war. But no, Cheney is trying to spin this ***** (and with a straight face I might add) as a good thing. Of course, we all know that the Republican sheep has already swallowed this horse ***** and fully digested on it.
But it goes to show you, Barack Obama is the real deal. Not a single other politician has openly come out and say that what Dick Cheney said was a joke. Not one. This is what America needs. We are tired of having politicians tell us that all is well when we could see with our own two eyes that all is for *****.
This country needs to wake up from this comma induced Republican hold. And realize that these Republican leaders are all full of *****. And that the fear tactics and labeling is a tactic that no longer holds water. America needs a positive change after 2 terms of George W. Bush. I say we start off right and vote Barack Obama as President in 2008. Spread the good word ... http://www.bobama.com
- DoodlesMcPooh, on 10/12/2007, -10/+28Britain is only moving the troops from Iraq to Afghanistan as they think if they increase the numbers there it might be possible to win.
- scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13Why is the being dug down? It's the official reason.
- BassMastr, on 10/12/2007, -7/+78Cheney kindly responded with an invitation to go hunting...
- kingfoot, on 10/12/2007, -15/+8damn you! i was about to make that joke... well, kudos sir. kudos.
- DonWilson, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5...shortly after Obama denied Ted Kennedy to take a late night drive.
- SomeJoe, on 10/12/2007, -57/+8Every time I hear Obama talk he gets less interesting.
- kevin45, on 10/12/2007, -10/+21That's funny, I thought the same thing about Bush in 2000.
- johnhummel, on 10/12/2007, -4/+56Yes, because calling hypocrites for what they are, for stating that policy makers who lie about our reasons for war, for calling out the corrupt - *that's* boring.
I mean, politicians should just pander to us while making their friends richer so they can go to cushy retirement jobs, not hold up hope that we can fight for a better system that actually treats people fairly under the law, not just give preference to those with more money.
What was Obama thinking? The audacity of him to hope! - alteratti, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Every time I see you commment, you get more boring.
- sheasie, on 10/12/2007, -6/+46COME ON! Brits pull 1500, US sends 20,000 MORE. suurree... it's "a good sign" ;) Cheney is either delusional or retarded to think that ANYONE believes that bullsh*t spin!!
- calbff, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9I vote retarded.
- 4wheel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"I vote retarded". Don't be so hard on yourself. A lot of people vote Democrat. It's easier than thinking.
- unclebobscircus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+52And a right-wing Bushie is going to accuse Obama of emboldening the terrorists in 3... 2... 1...
- amightywind, on 10/12/2007, -50/+5Ya know it true. That boy is more than half an Arab anyway, and that is half too much for my vote!
- Copperhe4d, on 10/12/2007, -9/+26@amightywind
i told you to shut the ***** up. jeez, i didnt know that they have Computers in trailer-parks - Serrac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Too late, that happened in the first post.
- marmanukem, on 10/12/2007, -12/+8Shut up ya ***** bigot.
- amightywind, on 10/12/2007, -31/+5marmanukem,
What you perceive as bigotry, I consider advocacy for that great silent majority who cringe at the left's celebration of diversity for diversity's sake. - darthsuo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14@amightywind
Diversity for diversity's sake? What if we just like Obama?
Also, why are you trying to sound smart? It's like you have a dictionary and thesaurus on your desk, trying to look for words that'll make people take you seriously, but then all that you end up with is a awkward mess that makes us take you even LESS seriously . . . - calbff, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16@amightywind
That argument is quite similar to that of the KKK. - rtini, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8amightywind, blowing wind out his butt as usual. Way to take the bait, idiot.
- pawperso, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32"It's time for you to turn off the TV and stop playing GameBoy,'" Obama said. "We've got work to do."
Dude, its the DS now.- kevin45, on 10/12/2007, -6/+43Maybe he meant "stop playin da game, boyee".
- johnhummel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21Yes, because *that's* the important thing - whether he calls people to action to better their government and community, or gets the name of the current handheld gaming system accurate for the 10% who actually play them.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7I think this is similar to how your mom calls every game system "Nintendo"
Funny how he mentioned putting down video games. He must know he has a lot of supporters on Digg and other internet communitys with a large gamer population.. - Johnny1337h4x0r, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28I believe he's the only one in politics who even know wtf a gameboy is. Yes, Lieberman included.
- consonance, on 10/12/2007, -22/+3"Obama told the Austin crowd that they should try to recruit their friends to support his campaign. 'I want you to tell them, '"It's time for you to turn off the TV and stop playing GameBoy,'" Obama said. "'We've got work to do.'"'
I think he means Wii, amirite?- alteratti, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8seriously, dude
that was lame.
- alteratti, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8seriously, dude
- stanleypoodle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7All I have to say about the recent brashness of the Democrats in criticizing the Iraq situation is that it shouldn't have taken 5+ years and hundreds of thousands of dead people for them to learn the meaning of "oppostion party".
I'm still disappointed in my party and sad that I have no choice but to give them my vote yet again in 2008. - desrosiers, on 10/12/2007, -34/+4I love that the Dem's still have no other solution than to cut off the troops and leave them stranded in Iraq. Good job never suggesting a solution. They seem to be really good at ridiculing, though.
- TopherT, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29Screw you buddy, guys like you got us into this mess and left us no recourse. Now all you can do is blame the people who had nothing to do with it for not magically fixing the mess you got the whole country into? What happened to responsibility, I thought that was the whole Republican agenda, personal responsibility. Well stop dodging yours. People no longer want to know what the Neo cons want to do, they want to be done with the whole mess. If that means pulling out and supporting the UN peacekeeping forces for the resulting genocide so be it. Its on your heads.
- myFriendDerrik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Sadly, It'll be on all of our heads. I don't think the rest of the world, especially the terrorist groups, know or care about the difference between red and blue states.
- origclubsoda, on 10/12/2007, -19/+5Dems never resolve problems, they just take money from the rich guy and throw it at issues
- kufu91, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8it better than taking money from the issues and throwing it at the rich guy
- fosenteskotia, on 10/12/2007, -22/+2imitation lobster meat is made of fish.. and it's ***** good,.
mty capthcha uis very closwe to wkrpin cincinatti.. but I[nm fuciimgn *****- ryanissuper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So true and relevant.
- fosenteskotia, on 10/12/2007, -20/+0thankd God for lgal anesthetic
- sunrunner, on 10/12/2007, -21/+5Luckily for the 99% of people in the active duty force who support the current effort in Iraq, and believe in the importance of continuing to support those proud Iraqi people, (98% of whom want freedom and peace for their country and their families) there is now an Appeal for Redress for us to sign, the Appeal for courage. Go to www[dot]appealforcourage[dot]org
- fosenteskotia, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3hahahah holy ***** *****/... you stil;l believe in that shjit... you ***** fool
- siszam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12That's funny. My son is active duty. He and his friends all know this war is bull and hate Bush's guts for putting them in harms way for nothing. Just because a few never woke up from the basic training brainwashing does not mean they are in the majority.
- ryanissuper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Way to pull numbers out of your ass.
- lkeg56demn, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I was at the rally, and people went crazy when he said that. However, I was expecting more from him, like him turning water into wine or something, based on the way that the media has been playing him up. In all, it was a good speech, but wasn't anything incredible.
- SunThe1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I see you have been dugg down for not being wowed enough.
- amightywind, on 10/12/2007, -33/+5What does Barack Hussein Obama think of the chaos that would ensue in Iraq if the US cut and run? The democrats don't care to ask him apparently.
- Copperhe4d, on 10/12/2007, -16/+8shut the ***** up. stupid nazi
- amightywind, on 10/12/2007, -24/+4Never! I feel it is my duty to speak out against the charlatan Obama.
- Copperhe4d, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4ok =)
- Copperhe4d, on 10/12/2007, -16/+5but your still a nazi :)
- Krymore, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18I think the word you're looking for is Fascist.
- amightywind, on 10/12/2007, -20/+4Ah Krymore! You've put down that bong long enough for some pithy liberal commentary?
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20"What does Barack Hussein Obama think of the chaos that would ensue in Iraq if the US cut and run?"
You speak as though everything is nice and peaceful currently. Seriously though, I'm all for staying in Iraq if anybody can convince me things are likely to get better. Unfortunately the only people that seem to be convinced of that are the same people that were telling us Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, they were collaborating with Al Qaeda, that we would be greeted as liberators, and mission accomplished.
I just find it difficult to believe we can accomplish anything significant in Iraq when they don't want us there. - 1611av, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1copperhead (and others),
Do you know what Nazi is an abbreviation for? National Socialist Party. Why do "leftists" always throw the Nazi label around when CLEARLY they have no idea what it really means. Socialism=liberalism=leftist. BTW, I hate all political parties because they all lie, cheat, and steal to get power and money. Power=pride, love of money=the root of ALL evil. - ryanissuper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Split/In/Three
- sheasie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17amightywind said: What does Barack Hussein Obama think of the chaos that would ensue in Iraq if the US cut and run? The democrats don't care to ask him apparently.
response: Who f*cking cares about Iraq?! What about the US?!! What does Bush/Cheney think of the chaos about to take place in the US as a result of nearly 9 TRILLION DOLLAR national debt?! Do you realize that the US Dollar is slipping against major currencies around the world like a dead weight?!
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/yu062005.html
Do you even know what that means?! It means chaos in the US!!! Do you even care?! amightywind: you blow chunks!- eavonius, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I hope I never have to work with the idiots that think the current Administration is doing a good job. You must seriously be clueless or a friend of the oil companies to think what's going on right now is good for anyone's children or the future of the planet.
- amightywind, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4You are a very stupid fellow. Check out the value of the US dollar versus other major world currency over the last 5 years.. The dollar is down against the Euro and Pound, up against the Yen and Canadian Dollar. China artificially supports the Yuan, which amounts giving me goods for free! Most of the countries whose currency is rising relative to the US hold a large trade surplus. The weakening dollar makes our exports more competitive in those markets. Ask Boeing how concerned about the weak dollar they are.
- rthakidn, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2Really, I'm not sure why liberals (oh I mean socialists) like you care about the dollar. I mean, isn't your mantra "from each, according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
- siszam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@rthakidn
Calling someone a socialist is a compliment you know. Jesus was not a Republican who starved the poor and neglected the sick so he would wage wars. Jesus had a heart for the poor and loved peace. He commanded us to. If you want to claim some superior ground maybe you should let go of the Republican religion of worshiping Bush and start being more of a socialist yourself. It's pretty psycho to put people down for saving and improving the lives of our troops and others. We care about the dollar because it should be used to help people not kill them. - ryanissuper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@Amightywind
You are a very stupid fellow pulling numbers out your ass. 5 years ago the Canadian doller was worth 64 cents. It is currently worth 85.
http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/CAD/hist2002.html
- cloudyprison, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3One politician comments about the actions of another politician to further their own career. News at 11.
*yawn*- eavonius, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Unfortunately it's what he's got to do if we're going to bring these mofos down. I'd love to see someone win without having to raise campaign cash up the wazoo but the other side is so dirty it's the only way to get in there. Hopefully if someone decent does get into office someday we can turn this thing around and change the way campaign financing works.
- origclubsoda, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3WTF? Pelosi and gang want to retreat asap from Irag and Obama criticizes Cheney and the UK for the same?
- mmockett, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Obviously not. Obama is claiming that Cheney is wrong in casting the UK withdrawal in a positive light.
- SunThe1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1mmocket: So you're saying that if someone does what you yourself want to do, it is wrong to cast it in a positive light?
Yeah- that makes sense.
origclubsoda: You've hit on what is actually the crux of this whole article, and no one's actually talking about that part of it: that Obama's "accusation" is kind of illogical...kinda makes it seem like "well, find a reason to criticise Dick Cheney...that will play well to the crowd". - mmockett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1sunthe1, are you serious? You both seem to be missing the point of the article. Obama is claiming that Iraq has been largely a failure and that withdrawing troops epitomises this. Cheney, however, is quick to claim that this is a result of the strategic planning and that withdrawal is a tribute the successful 'intervention'. However, Cheney is simply trying to cast a positive political light on this disaster, presumably to salvage the administration's reputation. Obama is perfectly logical in criticising Cheney for this frankly pathetic political move. What's the problem!?
- johnchaney3, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1NOBAMA2008.COM
- newmoon69, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Impeach the Liar in Chief. Impeach the Dubya administration! Except Vice President Chicken Hawk. Draft that fat bastard and send him to the front line in Iraq.
No more oil Wars!
Energy Independence now!
Drill for oil in Anwar and off the coast of Florida.
New nuclear and coal power plants should be built in every state. New refineries and new oil and gas pipelines should be built in every state.
Every agency of the federal government should be mandated to go operate solely on alternative or renewable fuels within 5 years. The feds should go green first because they can.
Proposed legislation for the next congress:
1. Resolved: It shall be considered an act of treason for a President or a Congress to commit troops to a war against an enemy that is not an imminent threat to the United States.
2. Resolved: It shall be considered an act of treason for Congress or the President to commit troops to a war which has as its only aim the furtherance of the fortunes of Oil companies or corporations or other war profiteers. - evlpanda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"We" (you United Statesians) need to find someone who can restore some order in Iraq. What was that guy's name? Saddam someone, he was keeping order there very well (relatively, I really emphasise that).
What? He's not available anymore? - bumblescrump, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I was wondering when right wing psychos would catch on to the fact that Digg is relatively free of trolling fascists:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24563_Mob_Rule_at_Digg#comments
There goes the neighborhood...
And intelligent debate.- hilbertspaceboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Those whiners still haven't gotten over the jackslapping we Dems gave them in November.
- Waiting2awake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@hilbertspaceboy
C'mon now. To say the Dems beat up on the Repub's, is taking credit that is not deserved. The republicans have been screwing up for so long that it is more telling of the weakness of the Dem's that it took them this long to get "a win", and in the end it was a small battle, not close to the war.
- hilbertspaceboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Those whiners still haven't gotten over the jackslapping we Dems gave them in November.
- Waiting2awake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8 I am still shocked that peole like almightywind have the nuts to speak. After everything they swollowed for this admin, to still beleive them. After all the things they have gotten horribly wrong, to still not realize they simply "don't get it".
Obama seems to be a good enough guy, but he is still a politician, which means he is a pro. lyer. However I am sure he will be better than who is in there now - but think about that for a bit. Who wouldn't be?
@newmoon, love the idea but in order to do what you propose in terms of the renewable, you'd have to have an independant in the WH because both parties have been bought and paid for. I don't think the average American even knows there are other chioces, let alone have enough courage to vote for them once they know they are there. - rthakidn, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Obama is an empty suit. He barely has the ability to regurgitate the same defeatist talking point the left has to offer. He is devoid of any original thought and lacks the courage to take a stand on anything controversial. He can only muster comments based on the latest opinion poll. Given the fact that less than half the population in 1776 supported the revolutionary war, it a good thing our founding fathers didn't base decisions on polls. Go ahead, check his record in Illinois.
- scottc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wow, you haven't listened to a thing he's said, have you?
- rthakidn, on 10/12/2007, -8/+0Good point hilberspaceboy!
- rthakidn, on 10/12/2007, -8/+0@siszam
With all due respect to Jesus, he never had a job. Its easy to say spread the wealth, when its not your wealth to spread.- danjanoop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5That comment leaves me absolutely dumbfounded. You sir, are an idiot and a loser.
- rstevens, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Good for Obama, but will he keep the faith and stand up for what's right if elected?
- rthakidn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Just assuming we were all lied to about WMDs, we all have the right to be pretty upset with the administraion. They lied!! Wasn't the DNC platform in 06 to "elect us and will end the war". What gives? Lied to AGAIN!!
- neuroticus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I agree rthakidn. The Republicans are criminal nationalists, and the Democrats are weak-spined talking heads, for the most part. (Obama, excluded)
Bring on citizen legislation, please.
- neuroticus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I agree rthakidn. The Republicans are criminal nationalists, and the Democrats are weak-spined talking heads, for the most part. (Obama, excluded)
- brnews, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1http://www.digg.com/politics/Presidential_hopeful_Obama_ridicules_Vice_President_Dick_Cheney
- IslandDog, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Obama has no chance at the Presidency. He is the poster boy for the democratic party right now and will fade away once the election really gets going.
- GOMiles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Osama is the only one that opposed the war from the beginning. Hillary now is playing catch up with a reversal in her original vote and position saying she would have could have and next time will…. What?!
This guys the real deal and is scaring the hell out of both sides and he hasn’t been cleansed of his commitment to do the right thing for we the people. What a concept to elect someone because they are standing up for us instead of special interests. - WaterJake, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0I'm not trying to back up Cheney or anything, but why is Obama supposed to be a uniter again? Because he's multiracial? So far he's done nothing but butt heads with other Democrats looking for the nomination and Republicans as well.
- JesusIsSatan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love Bush's response. He gave it the old Fox News spin and said it shows that less troops are needed because the plan is working in Iraq. Does the retard know he's sending 21,000 American soldiers in the next few months? Even Rove quit spinning the news these days.
- dboylon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2By openly mocking Cheney, Obama has put himself in a position to win. He needs to keep it up and as the election draws near go even further. I'm no fan of Obama. I think the US needs a serious thinker and a return to a less powerful central government rather than a charismatic cheerleader for the central government. But I will hand it to him. He has hit on the right strategy. The Democrats opposition has been so weak kneed it is nice to hear somebody come out swinging. God knows it would be easy to slam Cheney and Bush. The two are both draft dodgers and Cheney is a long time war profiteer...theses horses asses are going to save the country from Terrorism? What a bunch of BS. It is in Cheney's monetary interests to increase Terrorism and he couldn't be happier if he gets Bush to bomb Iran.
"When Dick Cheney says it's a good thing, you know that you've probably got some big problems." Keep it up Obama!
Here Cheney doesn't want to talk about it. The less talked about the better...his PR people conclude.
A spokeswoman for Cheney, traveling with him in Australia, said they had no comment on Obama's remarks.
Here you see the usual Democratic response. Pathetic...whiny....weak sounding...and ineffective.
A furious Pelosi complained to the White House that Cheney was impugning the patriotism of critics of the war. Cheney refused to back down: "I said it and I meant it," he told ABC News. "I didn't question her patriotism, I questioned her judgment."
Here Cheney Responds to the Weakling Pelosi...Puts the feminine Democrats in their place. - lagman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Man, Obama is NOT the answer http://www.warisnottheanswer.net/
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