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Thompson’s Conspiracy Theory: Iran ‘Leaked’ NIE

thinkprogress.org — Last night on PBS ’s Charlie Rose, former senator Fred Thompson added his own conspiracy theory to the mix, stating that Iran may have deliberately “leaked” the information on their lack of nuclear program to distract the U.S.

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  • mightydavefish, on 12/06/2007, -8/+98Unbelievable!
    Now the right wing asshats are going to suggest our intelligence services were all DUPED by the Iranians, just because the work of the PROFESSIONALS doesn't agree with the neocon agenda.
    Beyond disgusting.
    And right wing ***** are actually PROMOTING this ignorant old man.
    • eclipse007, on 12/06/2007, -2/+15I'd like to know his opinion about the PROVEN and still under investigation infiltration of Israeli spy ring in US agencies?

      http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html

      (Wanted to link Fox, but my fox news bookmarks to those stories somehow don't work anymore)
    • epicstruggle, on 12/06/2007, -9/+2Its not the first time that an intelligence service has been duped. The US leaked to the USSR that they were working on a new type of nuclear weapon delivery system, knowing full well that it was a waste of time/money. The USSR spent hundreds of millions of dollars researching it, until they came to the same conclusion. (thanks history channel). Another example was the main informant (cant remember his name) who basically was the reason for the Iraq war this time around. He said that Iraq was working on WMDs, a lie that he created so that the US would go in to Iraq. Im sure there are hundreds of other examples of countries doing things similar.
    • AlexLand, on 12/06/2007, -14/+2I think capitalizing random words is a good idea too! It really gets your point across and doesn't make you sound crazy at all.
      • ScoobyG, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1You know what - you're right. But right here, right now, no one ***** cares. It's like, BIGGER issues at stake, you know.
    • GarettM, on 12/06/2007, -8/+3Have you ever heard of acronyms? Usually they are capitalized, if you pay close attention you'll see he only capitalized acronyms, not "random words". You, sir, are the crazy one.
      • Phrag, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3ac·ro·nym /ˈækrənɪm/ [ak-ruh-nim] –noun
        1. a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words, as Wac from Women's Army Corps, OPEC from Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or loran from long-range navigation.

        None of those words are acronyms.
      • pault107, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1GarettM, you may notice that AlexLand was replying to mightydavefish, who did capitalise random words. I bet you feel stupid now huh?
    • bowe, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4[colbert
      It goes even deeper than Thompson knows. Not only did they intentionally leak out information about stopping their nuclear program. They actually went so far as to stop it so that our intelligence community would believe that they had stopped it. Nice try Iran, me and Tommy know that you only stopped so that you could say that you stopped, so that we'd think twice about blowing you up. Guess what, it's not going to work! Deep within the soul of the Iranian government there is a burning desire to have Nuclear weapons, they may do and say otherwise, but they can't fool Thompson, Miss Cleo, or me.
      /colbert]
    • StaticThunder, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Thompson: Why aren't the Iranians playing fair???!! WAAAAAAAH!
  • toddcat, on 12/06/2007, -5/+41Well I guess Hollywood Fred has learnt how to keep a straight face while passing off complete BS......maybe he is a decent actor.
    • gmillerd, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1OSMA obviously got CURVEBALL to convince the USA to go to war in IRAQ so OSMA could get all these masses of followers and OSMA deliver a huge crushing blow to the USA.
    • DangerCollie, on 12/06/2007, -0/+5Nice, Fred. You just demonstrated to the whole world you have the IQ of a bowl of lettuce. I'm sure McConnell is routinely briefing the Iranians on our NIE's, either that or the vast Iranian spy network has infiltrated Washington. Or am I giving away the plot for season 5?
    • principle, on 12/07/2007, -0/+1Now they know that we know, and we know that they know… wait my tinfoil is getting loose. Let’s see where was I? I wouldn’t be smiling if I was you! The little Iranian green man will come at night for you too, and then you will know what I am talking about!
  • njection, on 12/06/2007, -6/+16Freaking puppet. Only spouting what's poured into his head.
    • sotopheavy, on 12/06/2007, -0/+5This is why he can't win. Neither him nor Huckabee nor Giuliani. Think about it there are 2 or 3 democratic and one republican candidate who aren't lying to us through their teeth. Kucinich, Obama, Paul. Two of those are talking about our national debt. Kucinich, Paul. I don't mean to be pushy, but they should run together and they need all the help they can get. Nobody is going to give it to them because they are honest and if anyone helps them it's because they are honest too.
  • thejoshuablog, on 12/06/2007, -9/+35Oh, for the love of God. Has anybody checked to see if there is any inbreeding in his family? Jesus Christ!
    • appleann1, on 12/06/2007, -18/+1Who's family, daves?
    • odigity, on 12/06/2007, -0/+7News flash: He's not stupid, he's lying to cover for the people in charge because they are intent on attacking Iran. The GOP is entirely corrupt (except Ron Paul), as is the top people in the Democratic party. Look, these are powerful organizations. What did you expect but corruption? It's as reliable as entropy. The parties must go.
      • fonebone2, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6Richard Nixon and I disagree. He may be lying to cover for the people in charge by he is also a stupid *****. He's got a Bush-level IQ but without the history of drug and alcohol abuse to justify it.
        • odigity, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2Alright, I'll compromise. He's stupid AND a liar. We good?
    • Azerael, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1Adam and Eve's kids would have had to ***** each other... does that count?
  • Ih8troofers, on 12/06/2007, -32/+4just report lil davey for calling people asshats. matter of fact just go to his profile and report to digg everything he does. He is negative enough and does the name calling bit to get taken out. So lets target this "person" and get rid of him once and for all.
    • PATSCRU, on 12/06/2007, -1/+18There's a time when that word can be used subjectively, and without bias. A time when no other word in the english language can describe such asshatery. This is one of those times.
    • Acewrap, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Reported.
    • Bodhinature, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2What? Why are you sitting in that corner muttering to yourself?
  • Napoleone, on 12/06/2007, -3/+47How can Iran leak something our own spy agencies produced? Is Thompson suggesting Iran has infiltrated our security aparatus?
    • afruff23, on 12/06/2007, -2/+3We need Jack Bauer to find the mole.
    • sotopheavy, on 12/06/2007, -0/+7Fred Thompson is prepared to make the Chewbacca defense. "It doesn't make any sense!"
      • mOdQuArK, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2I think he's got it wrong. He seems to be saying "I don't make any sense!"
    • epicstruggle, on 12/06/2007, -9/+1It is very likely that the information came from someone in Iran, the question is whether or not that person should be believed. Thats why you need many sources to confirm one piece of intel. I hope we find out that this has been properly vented.
      • SuperCow1127, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3The NIE does not make claims of that magnitude based on the word of one foreigner from a hostile country. There is a reason US intelligence agencies have analysts that make work hard to make sense of the data our spies bring in, and it's not so Cheney can disregard them and draw his own conclusions from the raw data.
        • oldhick, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1NIE is actually mainly state department bureaucrats, they do not have access to intelligence provided by spies.
          • SuperCow1127, on 12/08/2007, -0/+1Are you just making things up? The director of National Intelligence reports directly to the President, and is not affiliated with the Department of State. The director of the CIA reports directly to the director of the National Intelligence Council (the agency that produces the NIE). Do you mean to tell me CIA analysts do not have access to raw intel?
    • tarzan99, on 12/06/2007, -3/+1Must be, and if so then you've already lost. Say hello to your new prez mahmoud
    • WilliamDavis, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Yes. The other day, our intelligence was the best. Suddenly, they're incompetent now. For some reason, the intelligence service was unable to just lie about it...
      • Cooperjones, on 12/06/2007, -2/+0When was our intelligence agency "the best"? Certainly they missed something very big... called 9/11. Do your homework, dude. When the CIA starts hiring fakers like Valerie Plame, you know they are in trouble...
        • MacEnvy, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2The intelligence agencies predicted 9/11 and told the president (hint: look up "daily presidential briefing"). It's not the intelligence agencies' fault the Administration had its own agenda, and was hobbled by a mentally handicapped burnout at the head.
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1"Is Thompson suggesting Iran has infiltrated our security aparatus?" Only if the listener were applying logic.
      to a NeoCon, the message is; "Leader haz truth, Iran iz more bad. Message is Iran, but we have bestest defenses. Need more powerz please to make bad foreign people go away."
    • stillasleep00, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Wait- so who do we nuke now!?!
  • iefrkr, on 12/06/2007, -5/+15to distract the US...from bombing them for absolutely no reason?

    sounds like a good idea to me.
  • backoff34, on 12/06/2007, -5/+25Jesus-*****-Christ....

    These ***** Neocons have no shame. ***** can lie their way out of anything. Soon, Guiliani will be saying..."You can't trust the CIA, they obviously do not understand the dangers of terrorism and islamo-fascism."
    • DangerCollie, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4My favorite neocon line is that the terrorists will follow us home. They're saying the billions we've spent on DHS and the TSA anal probe agency haven't bought us any real security.
    • MoreIntelligent, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3hey you forgot to mention.."You can't trust the CIA, 9/11, they obviously do not understand 9/11, the dangers 9/11, of terrorism 9/11, and islamo-fascism uh..9/11."
    • oldhick, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1I have no love for the neocons either but this is really the pot calling the kettle black. First we can't trust the NEI and CIA because they lied about Iraq, now anyone who contradicts this report is lying. Guess what people, its an intelligence estimate. A smart man would definitely weigh the reports findings as well as other intelligence. There is no definitive answer on what Iran will or won't do with their nuclear capabilities. Anyways, keep being high and mighty. Thats the road to success!
      • Gyre23, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1No, we could trust the NEI and CIA, but the current administration created their own intelligence committee, took the reports that the NEI and CIA deemed inaccurate, pumped them up for shock value and tried to pass them off as legitimate and valid intelligence. See http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Office_ ...
  • Jareth86, on 12/06/2007, -4/+15My god, does he think Americans are really stupid enough to believe that?!
    And he calls the idea of a nafta highway crazy...
    • DeadElephantORG, on 12/06/2007, -0/+8Yes he does believe that Americans are stupid enough to believe that. And he's right. I still hear right-wingers say the we really did find weapons in Iraq. Nearly half of all Americans STILL believe that Sadaam was the mastermind of 9/11 - evidence be damned.
    • Fieri, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1It's exactly like 1984. Chocolate rations are HIGHER this month, dammit!
  • MacSuxWindozSux, on 12/06/2007, -2/+21Of course Iran had the Intelligence documents...
    They must have those "10 Million" lost Whitehouse emails too.
    • sotopheavy, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2How stupid do they think we are? Like they say, Fred is a true [neo]conservative. Put no faith in the people's intelligence and shamelessly lie to them to carry out your agenda.
    • Cooperjones, on 12/06/2007, -6/+0Do you seriously not remember all of Clintoon's "Lost Emails" from 2000?

      ANd you seriously believe the insane person who is running Iran? DO you know anything about Iran or this nutjob? Yeah. Didn't think so. At least Thompson is thinking it through.
      • gofalcons, on 12/06/2007, -0/+0Omg, you honestly can't talk to people some. I mean, I honestly feel like digg is grade school. "Teacher! Jason just called me stupid." "SO! You called me stupid a long time ago, so NAH NAH!" Bill Clinton and George Bush ARE IN THE SAME BOAT, how many times does it have to be said for you to get that! If Clinton were in office right now, I'd be saying the same thing and so would about 90% of the other people on digg. The only difference would be that the ten percent left would be completely reciprocated. The "conservatives" would be bitching all the times while the liberals said "SO! Look at what Bush did" But for those of us who can think outside of the party lines and are loyal to our COUNTRY rather than our party, it's not that hard to see that there's no difference between democrat and republican "front-runners"
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1This is the test of loyalty. The media pundits who correctly parrot this ***** will get to stay out of the Gulags. They will right down Keith Obermann's name on the "naughty list."
  • bigp3rm, on 12/06/2007, -3/+18***** you.. Fred Thompson.
    • Cooperjones, on 12/06/2007, -8/+0No. Thanks.

      Aim your idiocy at the idiot running Iran.
      • MacEnvy, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Who, the Ayatollah?

        Mahmoud Ahmadinejad does not "run" Iran, regardless of how badly the Administration would like you to believe that. He has almost NO power, especially in regard to military resources.
  • Curlz31, on 12/06/2007, -3/+14I love it how they are all for conspiracies when it supports their own agenda, but when we scream 'North American Union' and 'Secret Government' all they have is ridicule.
    • fadeout, on 12/06/2007, -5/+2Fred Thompson being a doofus doesn't make you any less crazy.
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Have you heard the one about kerosene softening steel and a building pancaking in 8 seconds -- that one always makes me laugh.
      What, too soon?
      • Curlz31, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1I'm blocking my ears and covering my eyes so I didn't see the above comment.
    • johnnick, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2When you scream "North American Union" a lot of the rest of us have ridicule for you, too.
  • doctordbx, on 12/06/2007, -2/+6Is it possible that even with all this information coming to light you guys are still going to bomb Iran?
    If so... what the ***** is going on?
  • johnnyb3, on 12/06/2007, -3/+5Sounds plausible to me!!

    (/sarcasm for sheeple to will undoubtedly upmod me)
  • ZenMojo, on 12/06/2007, -3/+12Pardon me for a second.
    ...
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!! Eheh. Ahem. Heh. Ow, I think I broke something.
  • rabidjester, on 12/06/2007, -4/+3Sorry guys, you simply aren't going to get your war/bombing campaign/whatever. The presidential race is going to be a bit more interesting now that the politicians no longer have Iranian nuclear bogeyman.
    • CeeAyy, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2They still have a lot of time left on the clock. The game is far from over.
    • k3ano, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2Bush said that his opinion still hasn't changed about Iran. He's now using the "they're dangerous because they might sell their knowledge to a covert millitary program" angle.
  • thewump, on 12/06/2007, -2/+5The system is broken.
  • theeEqualizer, on 12/06/2007, -2/+7This is great. Now I get to say to the right wing, "Get out your tin foil hats. The Iranians are beaming false intelligence into our brains.They're hypnotizing American intelligence agents."
    • Fieri, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1This is a much more insane conspiracy theory than to believe, for example, that the banking institutions that control our currency are quietly imploding it to consolidate their wealth into real assets, thus forcing us to accept a North American Union.
  • fonebone2, on 12/06/2007, -2/+6Awesome! So instead of bombing Iran for building nukes, we get to bomb them for infiltrating our intelligence agencies and releasing intelligence reports that Dick Cheney didn't want us to see. Brilliant!

    Fred Thompson 4EVA
  • Sturmur, on 12/06/2007, -8/+2So...
    It's fine to think that 9/11 is an inside job, but it is absolutely ludicrous to think that Iran is trying to hide a nuclear weapons program?

    ???
    • fonebone2, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4What's ludicrous is the idea that we have hard evidence that Iran is trying to build a nuke but that all 16 US intelligence agencies are covering it up for them.

      What's NOT ludicrous is the idea that Iran stopped building nukes in 2003 but that the neocon junta has been lying its ***** ass off about it ever since.
      • Cooperjones, on 12/06/2007, -4/+0I just don't get how Diggers like you can actually take a nut like the guy running Iran seriously. He had a religious vision on the floor of the UN. He doesn't believe in the Holocaust, but he sure would like to start his own Holocaust against the Jews. He is insane. Ask the gays in Iran. Oh yeah, you can't because this guy doesn't believe there are any gays in Iran. And you believe what he has to say about his nuke program? I am appalled at the ignorance.
    • Cooperjones, on 12/06/2007, -2/+0Thanks Stumur.
    • yeti22, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1No, it's not fine to think that 9/11 was an inside job.
    • johnnick, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1It's fine to think 9/11 was an inside job, just like it's fine to believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. If it makes you happy, go ahead.
  • fonebone2, on 12/06/2007, -2/+3I can't wait for the official confirmation from Bush:

    "Them 'raynyins musta leaked our intel!"
    *blank stare*
  • odigity, on 12/06/2007, -7/+10Please vote Ron Paul. Please... I'm begging you, now.
  • starmanjones, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2so then, what he is proposing is that iran duped our intelligence agencies into thinking they had stopped development of nukes so the intelligence agencies would not inform the commander and chief who is threatening to attack iran... AND so that it could be leaked in the press and give bush something else to lie about.

    that sums it up i guess. does the right wing actually think about the things they say... do they believe their own *****?
    • doctordbx, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3More than likely they're "we'll just say whatever... it doesn't have to make sense because it hasn't made sense for the last 7 and a half years and we still got to do everything we wanted... why bother trying?"
      • starmanjones, on 12/08/2007, -0/+1i don't disagree with you. but its very scary when we let a guy thinking he could act like a good president off the hook for saying numbskull ... things. its scarier yet that there are people who that answer makes sense for.
  • aliashandle, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1You know what he's doing... REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY! "What they are saying in public is true. What our guys in the intelligence field are gathering is totally off" Thompson really has confidence in our intelligence forces with statements like: "I doubt if our intelligence knows... unfortunately... it's one of the problems we got in this country." and then he drops this gem... "we just have to wait and see..." hahahha I can't even say anything to that.... "wait and see" wow. just. wow.
  • TwinTurboMike, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Queue the Bush "Conspiracy Theories" quote in 3..2..1..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5M0xtxQVQ
  • shrimp1970, on 12/06/2007, -5/+1Also mentioned on skewz.com where you can rate the bias level of this story
    http://www.skewz.com/link/link_details/2599
  • KhanneaSuntzu, on 12/06/2007, -1/+3You americans have a scary minority with a clearly psychotic sense of reality. Those wingnuts should be hospitalized ASAP.
  • DemsFTW, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2Let's say Iran did leak it. It's still the truth, right? So Thompson is saying Iran just made us look like a bunch of assholes.
  • Sogui, on 12/06/2007, -4/+3What's funny is the irrational paranoia here on Digg far surpasses what Thompson is talking about here. Hell it's not even a real "conspiracy theory".

    Thompson is crazy! He's just a puppet to the NWO necon agenda that plans on banning LSD so that they can use mind control to keep us submitted so that 9/11 is an inside job because Guiliani has close ties to a terror sheik.

    Or something
    • Sogui, on 12/06/2007, -4/+1As an addendum: I loathe the idea of going to Iran as much as anyone here, just find it funny how many tin-foil conspiracies we hear on Digg per week, but then call a claim about planted intelligence a "conspiracy theory".

      His statements don't meet the definition of what a conspiracy theory is.
      • Fieri, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1No, his statements are the definition of a conspiracy theory. All crimes, like 9/11, are "conspiracies" in the vaguest sense. The US government permitted and assisted the 9/11 attacks. That's not a conspiracy, that's politics.
  • bowens44, on 12/06/2007, -1/+8Are all republican politicians morons?
  • wil2200, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1what a ***** idiot
  • avengingturnip, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1The unspoken part of this is that Thompson is Cheney's candidate. He is very close to the Vice President and is likely representing his views.
  • donelson, on 12/06/2007, -1/+4.


    Neo-Cons - They LOVE "America", but hate Americans.


    .
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Anything that can't speak for itself; The Flag, God, fetuses and dead soldiers.
      Yup, that's about it.
  • Tuto, on 12/06/2007, -1/+3Looks like its only a matter of time before America invades Iran. If this kind of report doesn't change their minds then nothing will.
  • unreg, on 12/06/2007, -2/+0Love the circular logic of our politicians.

    We've now got a liberal conspiracy regarding a conservative conspiracy in reference to an Iranian conspiracy.

    Round and round we go.
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1WTF? How is it not a PLAN of theirs to blame the CIA?
      Wow, can't sneak any of those mythical conspiracies on you.
      And I'm sure Napolean just waltzed into England -- nobody planned that -- no, there are no plans to do bad things for money or power ever. Ass hat.
  • cdcr28, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1This is what drives the 9/11 truth movement. The version of current events that ***** like Thompson offer is so ridiculous, it makes all of the interent conspiracy theories look rational in comparison.
  • Cooperjones, on 12/06/2007, -7/+2You diggers don't know anything about intelligence agencies and/or how this Hiterlerian anti Semite running Iran thinks. Are you guys kidding that you believe anything he says? He doesn't even believe in the Holocaust -- but he sure would like to start a new one. Don't worry. Israel will clean up the nuke problem in Iran, just like they did in the 80's. Do any of you Diggers know how intelligence is actually collected and worked up? Didn't think so. Thompson IS a real lawyer btw. He worked the Watergate hearings. He was called up by Hollywood to be an actor in order to play himself in a movie about Watergate. And Thompson is just voicing what people in the know are already thinking...

    Don't you guys know that that Iranian freak had some sort of religious breakdown on the floor of the UN? And you trust what he has to say about his nuclear program? Unreal.
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4I'm going to digg you up, so everyone can see how much like a ***** clueless Nazi a typical NeoCon sounds.
      Thanks for bringing the entire Jewish race into the argument -- is this like when we think Bush is a lying scum bag, we hate America, the troops, and God?
    • rexblade, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Im confused i thought george said it.
    • erkokite, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1The Iranian government never said that they would destroy Israel. They said that the Israeli government currently in power would vanish from the pages of history. Ahmadenijad did deny the holocaust, but does that mean we need to invade Iran? I think not. Ahmadenijad is free to make himself look like an ignorant jackass all he wants. Israel has a strong military and hundreds of nuclear weapons. America does not need to baby sit them.
  • Cooperjones, on 12/06/2007, -6/+2Oh, and I bet you Diggers think Chavez is a "cool" dude, too. Where did the average Diggerjoe study history? Or did they at all? Unbelievable ignorance. Look. It is very clear. Totalitarian rule is bad. Republican democracy is good. Freedom of speech is good. Denying free speech, freedom to vote, freedom of religion is bad. Simple enough? Okay, now, where does Iran fall in this arena? Ask the gays in Iran. Ooops, you can't. The leader of Iran says "There aren't any gays in Iran". And if there are, they better be hiding before they get killed for being gay. This is totalitarian Islamic rule. Bad is the correct answer.

    Diggers. Read and understand Orwell's ANIMAL FARM (and throw in his book 1984 for good measure) before you write anything about totalitarian tyrants again. And study Orwell's personal life, too. The problems of the modern world will make a lot more sense for you after that. And read Adam Smith too. (I'm sure Freddie Thompson has read these classics. Educate yourselves -- the world is a scary place for the ignorant...)
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1You forgot to mention Sandy Berger. Or Clinton's blow job.
      Chavez lost the election -- no more "ooooh Commie Scary" nonsense. Let's find someone else worse that Bush and tell everyone how being a fascist is necessary.
    • amoro99, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1We have nothing left to fear but -- VENEZUELA????
    • pitlord, on 12/07/2007, -0/+1I agree. Unfortunately, even if the brain-dead members of the liberal digg machine are able to read and comprehend Orwell's writing, their socialistic minds will tend to twist and distort his stories to associate murderous tyrants like Chavez with the protagonists.
      Ever notice how they continuously compare people like Bush with Big Brother for setting aside protest areas at his speeches so his liberal opponents can protest safely yet they completely ignore the numerous conservative protesters who were simply arrested during the Clinton decade.
      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0 ...



  • kavaliro, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2First, Fred Thompson has no credibility.

    Second, "Leaking" the truth to prevent an unjust world war--if they did do that, they did the right thing. The key concepts there are exposing truth, preventing war. Two rights make a right, not a wrong. Quit your whining, Fred.
    • efriese, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1Why does he have no credibility? He has a lot more experience in intelligence than you. I'm pretty sure he served on the Senate Intelligence Committee and not you. You can say he's wrong, but saying he has no credibility is just ridiculous. It's not uncommon for other countries to put out ***** to interrupt our intelligence efforts. Fred Thompson says we need to enhance our intelligence capabilities and I agree with him.
      • amoro99, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1psst -- we stopped nuclear weapons research in 2003 -- don't tell anyone! <wink>
  • snatchmstr, on 12/06/2007, -2/+2Apparently all of you should be in politics since you all know what's really going all the time. Friggen armchair quarterbacks. : (
    • avengingturnip, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3Government of, by, and for the people, right?
    • amoro99, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3You are 100% correct. Why on earth should a presidential candidate be held to a higher standard than a random commenter on the internet?
  • SuperCow1127, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1I'm really glad this television actor knows enough to make well founded judgments about our intelligence analysis. I'm amazed at who they give security clearance to now....
  • hangingchad, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Well that seals it for me. I will never, ever vote for Fred "I might not know any Intelligence folks, but I played one on TV" Thompson. Funny how the Republicans are so easy to dismiss "liberal media" conspiracy theories yet create them when it comes to their own issues. More tin foil hats for the Republicans.
  • hyperspace68, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1President Thompson?
    ... oh yeah. Right away. Can't wait.
  • FarEastKilla, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1How much is CIA budget? Cut them all if they are always wrong, I guess the right doesn't believe in "INTELLIGENCE" in running a government. ALL those undercover agents risk their lives for this report, for AMERICA! I guess republicans hates AMERICA!

    Last time I checked CIA won us the cold war!
  • samk, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1New York Times article on the source of the new intelligence. It's worth reading to understand the debate on its validity.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/06/world/middleeast ...
  • amoro99, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Meet the new boss -- same as the old boss
  • MCMLXXXII, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2I must say, cooperjones is the biggest idiot on this thread.
  • jellygraph, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1bla bla bla... no wonder all the enthusiasm died and no one really wants to elect this bozo...
  • bshock, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1I wonder what sorts of people think of facts as dangerous distractions?
    Oh, that's right -- idiots and criminals.
  • Calann, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Sounds like a good plot for a movie. Maybe Thompson has spent too much time in the world of fiction.
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