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What Every American Needs to Know (and Do) About FISA

fourhourworkweek.com — Information and interview regarding FISA (Federal Information and Surveillance Act) amendments.

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  • flower8, on 07/07/2008, -3/+77Important post everyone needs to act on.
    • Roninsfx, on 07/07/2008, -0/+15I agree! It takes no time to make the calls to your Senators. Do your part and act.
      • AndeyM, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1yay one of my senators is russ feingold lol.
    • kyyled, on 07/07/2008, -0/+25A woman to Benjamin Franklin after the Constitutional Convention of 1787: "What kind of government do we have?"

      Franklin: "A republic, if you can keep it."
    • didiman, on 07/08/2008, -10/+1silly liberals, you need to get out of your basements and join the real world.
      • Elranzer, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4Silly conservatives... not realize that the part of Lincoln died a long time ago and all they have left is some poor excuse of a neo-nazi party.
      • republicker, on 07/08/2008, -3/+7Silly conservatives and liberals think the government still works for them. When will you idiots realize its a one party system and quit buying politicians *****.
    • babbitblob, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Pity more of these articles didn't become popular earlier. Now all we can do is hope the senate will do the right thing.
    • Andysan, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Think how scary this warrantless surveillance would be if Congress were running the show. But I guess the sound judgment of Pelosi, Reid, Waters, Murtha, and the others should be comforting. Oh *****! Great idea to send them emails.
    • kosser, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3it took me 2 mins to complete my call and all i did was call the number and read the script to their voice mail. then i marked the voice mail as urgent and hopefully they will listen to it..
  • KevinEldon, on 07/07/2008, -2/+43Important... read and take action.
    • MarkCiccone, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I'm from Connecticut, and one of my senators wrote the Dodd-Feingold amendment and my other senator is a douche bag who has the same opinions and voting record as Bush's most idiotic supporters. Guess I won't bother.
    • Snuff99, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1Your freakin right! This is important and I am going to take action! Imma go get some cheetos...cause I'm done with this bag.
  • jumbybay1, on 07/07/2008, -2/+37I'm glad this was brought to my attention - happy to Digg it if it helps people notice and take action.
  • maxlharris, on 07/07/2008, -2/+47If warrantless wiretaps don't bother you, you probably aren't paying attention. Read. Take the action. The actions only take a minute.
  • SjHoward, on 07/07/2008, -2/+59I am not American, but for your own sakes and for those of us who care about Democracy in the US and around the World, Act on this or you will eventually lose the ability to do so. In all likely hood reading this post has flagged you to a NSA or other Government Database. It would really suck one day if you were in a Kangaroo court or worse a victim of rendition and they used this as example of your anti-American dissident behavior. Democracy will march on, you should help pick a direction.
    • LitGeekPJ, on 07/08/2008, -1/+8Dude, if you're commenting from Canada, this affects you guys more than most other democracies. One of the idiosyncrasies of the world's longest continuous peaceful international border is that it makes a great escape route for those of us Stateside who have, say, "issues" with our government. It worked during Vietnam, and it's working for U.S. citizens sneaking north to receive affordable health care. We will definitely do our part... but it wouldn't hurt if you could also do us the favor, in case we can't stop this draconian law, of keeping a lookout for any unfortunate accommodations Ottawa may make, regarding either U.S. "escapees" or Canadian citizens. TYVM for your own comment.
  • qdkk, on 07/07/2008, -2/+51I did my part and called both Sen Feinstein and Sen Boxer. It took 2 minutes.
    • anubis2night, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3Me too, and with the same representatives.
  • lilomerlin, on 07/07/2008, -3/+28I am very glad that Tim calls for taking action - taking responsibility.
    Be part of democracy by acting - and doing what you can to reach others. Take 60 seconds more to email his post to your friends, tell them you have voted and that YOU think that it is about their future. Here you see that being political should be about shaping future, not parties: on a personal - and collective intelligence level.
    Politics always affect us and we should use any way of having a say.

    And get even more active if millions and millions of voices should NOT influence the outcome !!!

    But first we have to be active - whenever we say "it won't work" about something we want to reach before we have tried, and sticked to it because we believe in our goal, we are on the wrong track. We should be honest then and say: "I don't want to take action, I accept the worst."
    I'm not American either - but this is a question of human resonsibility and showing that we WANT democracy, especially because some might not believe in it any more (tragic but true, I'll digg a german survey), which is really dangerous if resulting in passive moaning as final activity.
    We can show that we are mature enough to see that democracy means active participation. I had the same hesitations towards being actively political, but this is part of the problem: Being political, active, initiative means to take responsibility as citizens.
    As long as we mark our political view ON TOPICS private, don't manage to discuss topics BEYOND PARTIES , we block active participation and going for things together. First, we should define what we want loudly - then politicians and parties would follow.
    Taking responsibility and develop self-esteem to stand up for your view, as all of you will know from any life-coaching theories, is basic, basic, basic for whatever you want to reach.
    Watching globally, standing up for what we want where we can shouldn't be private by the definition of democracy - We alltogether have to create a new view of being political beyond political parties.
  • cheaplee, on 07/07/2008, -2/+28It's is almost scary how the administration has skewed the "grey line" to a point where their actions have to be questioned. What is even scarier is our apathy. We tend to forget the important freedoms in life as long as we can drone out in front of TV. I think the administration has been taken cues from China, where they have perfected a model of keeping their people happy enough with a modicum of capitalist pursuits, but keep hold of any real power.
    • Rakuseki, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1Not to knock you, nor to uphold the actions of the current administration (or congress), but isn't that kind of the point behind the gray line anyway?

      The fact that we're at this point isn't as troubling to me as to what we're going to do about it, now that the onus is gradually becoming ours. Every generation had their moment where they had to determine the path they were going to head down. Regardless of what part of the political jungle gym you're on or who you're supporting for upcoming Presidential election, I adamantly agree with the message behind this blogger's position. More citizens should be aware, if not in touch, with their senators' (although their representative is arguably more important), voting record and policies so they may both become apart of the political process and understand why a certain elected official might feel the way they do.

      Anyway, I agree with part of what you're saying. There are far too many armchair politicians out there willing to slash and burn or call for some type of legal inquiry over decisions they could have been a part of or had the chance to put a stop to had they just paid a bit more attention. Some would blame the administration for 'getting away' with doing things casually considered 'unlawful' off sheer assumed principle. I consider that a bit too easy. The responsibility is ours; they're simply doing their jobs as we elected them to do. If we don't like what they're doing then we have our options. Plenty of groups do it all the time and have done it, the general citizenry shouldn't be any different and believe me, I stress the term 'shouldn't'.
  • nikkid140, on 07/07/2008, -2/+11Thanks to my friend for bringing this to my attention. It is quite important for people to at least glance over and be aware of what is going on. Not a big political person, but I forwarded this to everyone I could.
  • spflorida3, on 07/07/2008, -2/+22***Important - Its things like this that could destroy what it means to be an American. Make sure your voice is heard.
  • byrdgang, on 07/07/2008, -3/+20I left about 15 voicemail messages with both of my senators regarding this FISA bill. I sent one senator about five emails.

    I am a pessimist by nature, but I'll do everything in my power to curb this bill.
  • pakruse, on 07/07/2008, -2/+11Any other Texans out there think it's even worth the time it would take me to call Cornyn or Hutchinson? My thoughts are they (or their aides) would just laugh at me on the phone. If there's a bill that gives a corporation protection at the expense of individual liberties, Cornyn's a likely sponsor of the bill, rather than a potential opponent.

    On a related note, vote Noriega over Cornyn in November!
    • jgzman, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2My senators and representative are the worst kind of republican scum. I'm not going to bother. They want this, and nothing I can say will change their minds.

      I wish I had good representatives, either Republican or Democrat, that would listen to their constituents.
      • anubis2night, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4Do something about it help organize an effort to voting them out of office. And tell them that in your communications with them, point out this issue as one of the defining moments when you knew they were not doing their job to look out for your best interests then do all you can to put a representative in that will.
      • lamiaconfitor, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Look, I think even republicans can get behind not voting for this bill, it expands governmental powers, if you work that angle, you can sell it.
    • Codwhy, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2i feel you both. north texas sucks as far as this is concerned
    • AustinMandi, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Sad to say but after calling and voicing my concerns over many bills I have found that both of them rarely, if ever, oppose legislation that infringes on our Constitutional rights. Hutchinson is not running for re-election so she is basically immune from her constituents and their will. Not that she has ever cared about them anyway. And Cornyn, well, he votes in lock-step with the party and doesn't deviate. However, he is up for re-election so you might have a better shot with him but I wouldn't hold my breath. Both shameless Republicans who benefit greatly from the status quo.
    • homercles337, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Call and say that you are a representative of Big Co (tm). I bet they will listen then.
  • borez, on 07/07/2008, -5/+31"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"

    It's your country, you ***** change it.
  • il2k3, on 07/07/2008, -2/+22Fellow Americans, this is very important. Please take Action!
  • swrostmore, on 07/08/2008, -2/+13The vote has been delayed until Wednesday
  • 314159yes, on 07/08/2008, -5/+2This allows any communication by a US citizen with someone overseas to be monitored. TPB, bittorrent where a peer is overseas and any other sites not based in the US. Not to mention emails, Skype and traditional phone calls.
    • kreneskyp, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5I keep hearing this over and over.

      You are admitting that one of the people are a U.S. citizen and that they can and will be spied on. Just because they call outside the U.S. does not make it ok. Many U.S. citizens have reasons to call outside the country. My wife's family is in Thailand and we make or receives calls from them several times a week. Our privacy is being invaded without cause.
    • nosecohn, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1You have no idea what this allows. The warrantless wiretapping program is secret. All that we know about it is through leaks. It may be that ALL traffic though all included networks has been saved and analyzed, regardless of who the parties to the communication were. The only way we will ever really the scope of this program is by affected parties suing the telcos for what was indisputably illegal action. This bill would grant the telcos retroactive immunity from such suits, meaning not only that all the suits would be immediately dismissed, but also that the American people will never know to what extent they were spied upon by their own government.
  • isparadiselost, on 07/08/2008, -5/+15Every American needs to be well armed. Should a member of an unConstitutional entity knock on your door, proceed to open the door with extreme caution whilst making sure they are aware of what you're holding in your hand(s). Politely indicate that they are on private property, are not welcome and should leave immediately. If they refuse, call your county Sheriff. If they get aggressive and attempt to exert an authority not allotted them by the US Constitution? That choice will be one you have to make on the spot.

    I doubt it will be too difficult these days to find a Grand Jury who doesn't have a member that hasn't been harassed by these thugs.

    While it's nice to have a large caliber rifle or shotgun ready, they tend to be more afraid of cameras than anything. They're scared ***** of cameras. If that doesn't work? Pull the trigger and let God sort it out.
  • Dauntless1, on 07/08/2008, -2/+9Yes, we should do all we can to stop this amendment. At least we still live in a country where we can try to make a difference! On another note, who didn't see this coming?
  • rationalbeats, on 07/08/2008, -9/+19If you care about this for real, and vote for Obama then you are a fraud.
    • bhod, on 07/08/2008, -12/+2Then you don't really understand what Obama's change is all about. Once he wins the presidency, then he'll start to act and change accordingly. Right now he's just trying to appease the center/right in order to win. It's all politics baby, and once he wins, he'll bring the real change.
      Obama 08!
      • founderofpork, on 07/08/2008, -0/+10Are you serious? If Obama can't take a stand now, why should I trust him to do jack ***** when he's in office? He said months ago that this bill should be filibustered, but now he's getting ready to vote Yes? Sounds like ***** pandering to get elected to me. Isn't that exactly what Obama's "new" style of politics is supposed to change?

        Why doesn't he use his platform as one of the most watched people in America to educate Americans about the evils of this bill? Explain all the reasons why voting for it would be dereliction of his duty as Senator, and then watch the rest of the legislative branch scramble to cover their asses.

        But he won't do that because he wants to get elected and he thinks he can't do that without playing the same ***** political games as always. I'll be incredibly impressed and surprised if he does the right thing here.
      • Snuff99, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1If Obama takes your stance he won't be elected at all, what would that prove? That you can make a stand, not get elected and certainly lose any chance you had a making a difference. Brilliant plan.

        If a pol. is gonna "stick to his guns" he has a better chance at making a difference as president, not a senator, common sense.
      • ssdded, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0bhod, you must be incredibly deluded to think that. If he's going to vote yes on it now, what makes you think he'll work against it in the Oval Office? That he changed his mind from the right position to the wrong position tells me he's no better than Bush or McSame.
    • skeptic42, on 07/08/2008, -6/+7And McCain is a better option how, exactly?
      • bhod, on 07/08/2008, -5/+3That's what I like to throw out there too. Who is better than Obama..nobody. Let's just vote for him because that's all we have left and hope for the best. I'm sure he'll stick with us grassroots once he wins even though he's leaning towards the center/right for now.
      • NorthMass, on 07/08/2008, -2/+8Vote 3rd party, Obama is just another run of the mill politician.
      • Elranzer, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Right... just vote 3rd party, and let the Republicans have another 8 years in the White House. Honestly, I don't think my country can handle that.
  • Shellius, on 07/08/2008, -3/+20Don't just sit there -- do something!

    I also keep hearing excuses for why a Constitutional expert like Obama would be for this wiretapping compromise. None of them make a damn bit of sense. People seem to think he's got a magic fix in his pocket that he'll pull out in January 2009. Call me skeptical. You don't vote for something like this unless you are without any regard for the Constitution. I don't think I've ever despised certain sell-out Democrats like I have the last two weeks.

    • bhod, on 07/08/2008, -9/+2You're an idiot. Obama will do something about this and every other unconstitutional thing that Bush has enacted once he is president. Just give the man a chance. Right now he has no real power as a senator. Just wait until he does win.
      • hugolp, on 07/08/2008, -2/+9Obama is a fraud, and you know it, or at least are starting to feel it. Since he discover he could win, he has been moving backwards to more "corporate friendly" political positions. All the time.

        US people is tired of Bush and wants a change and Obama is using that for not giving a ***** to people and make friends in the big corporations. I you are not convince about this yet, wait and see. But I am sure you have at least a feeling at the back of your mind telling you that something is wrong with Obama.
      • jgzman, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3Obama is the Presidentian Nominee, and the de facto leader of the Democratic party. In theory, he should be able to get a large chunk of the Democrats to pull out of this bill.

        If he can't or won't, I worry about his future presidency.
      • AmaDaden, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1@jgzman It's too early to pull that kind of weight for him. Bush has everyone running scared. With both threats of terrorism and threats of the voters being angry about not acting ageist terrorism.
      • ssdded, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1No real power as a Senator... bhod, you almost have a point. HOWEVER, regardless of what power he has as a Senator, as a presumptive Presidential nominee, he has a BULLY PULPIT. If he was REALLY against it, he would vote no and condemn anyone who voted yes while he was out on the campaign trail.
      • AmaDaden, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1"If he was REALLY against it, he would vote no and condemn anyone who voted yes while he was out on the campaign trail."

        @ssdded It should be that easy but it's not. This would be childs play for McCain to use as cannon fodder ageist Obama. I can see the "OBAMA IS SUPPORTING THE TERRORISTS!" adds in my head already. Also this bill added in FISA oversight of these wiretaps in the future.

        http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.c ...
        "RENDELL: When you're in the Senate, you have to weigh the entire bill. The bill on FISA was court supervision of wiretaps. That's a huge victory for individual rights in America. Senator Obama believed that was more important, that he had to go along and vote for it even though it didn't have the immunity provision or did have the immunity provision, but he has pledged later on in the Senate to try to strip the immunity position."

        As I understand it future wire taps are not done by warrant but they MUST go through the FISA court and can not last more then 30 days. I don't like that he is not voting ageist it but he did do something to lessen it. Personally I'm going to trust him on this one, I think he did all that he could and this is the best course of action until he gets in office and can make real change.
    • founderofpork, on 07/08/2008, -0/+14I don't see how anyone could possibly buy his excuse for supporting this bill. He studied ***** CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. He knows better than this. And we should vote for him because he says he'll change all this once he's in office? Sounds like ***** to me.

      Now, I actually do believe he'd try to change these things once he's in office, but the fact is that THERE'S NO GUARANTEE HE'LL BE ELECTED. Why are we acting like he's already being inaugurated?

      If Obama is willing to vote for unconstitutional legislation to try to appeal to people (who are these people???) who are for some ***** up reason in favor of this bill...well, that shows he's not changing anything. He's playing the same game as always, and he's not the person he says he is. Period.
  • highlymodified, on 07/08/2008, -2/+17People, this is the true front on the war for freedom.

    Beyond this lies the quick decent into totalitarianism. When the fear pervades everyday communications, there's no going back.
    Apathy, while in style, is not an option.
  • uscfan7690, on 07/08/2008, -3/+18If you do one thing, just ONE THING on Digg all year, I beg you to let it be this. This is about preserving the absolute core of the American democracy and its freedoms.
  • nontoxyc, on 07/08/2008, -3/+11Those hypocritical ***** in Washington need to be rounded up and tried. They're not my leaders.
  • cheezintern, on 07/08/2008, -2/+10This is indeed very important. I've been calling my senators all week, and will continue to do so.
  • trispear, on 07/08/2008, -2/+5+1, but did the guy have to spend so long talking about not liking politics and not participating in it as if it were a good thing? I don't think not being involved is something to be particularly proud of because you work for the government 5-6 months out of the year through taxes so you should say something, and the masses being apathetic to the process makes these crisis point come up because it's not taken care of until then.
  • underdog5004, on 07/08/2008, -2/+6I just tried to call my both district offices. Unfortunately, it's past their office hours. Fortunately, the voicemail boxes were full, hopefully from all you Californian diggers calling in with our wishes!
  • OfNumbers, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10Front paged the day of. That's activism at it's finest.
  • CuriousJohnson, on 07/08/2008, -1/+8Emailed my senators.
  • thegodfaza, on 07/08/2008, -2/+10Don't need to e-mail my senator. He is Russ Feingold.
    • cornballer, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2LUCKY!!! ;)
    • stretta, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2You still need to contact them and thank them for what they're doing.
  • CyphreDias, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10So much is happening so fast that we are desensitized to it all. I feel tire and worn thin of fighting this *****.
  • mithrasinvictus, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3Should have been posted in video. I would have preferred text.
    Notice how the cameraman seems to be more interested in the apple logo than the interview.
  • c4m320n, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Wow I had no idea about this untill I saw it on dig. I must say it sent shivers up and down my spine. If this passes, we are just one step closer for our government to take total controll. If anything like this would have happened when our country was being born, we would have already been in a civil war.
    • eldano512, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4We did have a civil war, if I remember correctly, because people in the south were tired of the government.
      • Codwhy, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4i think what he was trying to say is that our forefathers would not have stood for this *****
      • diggpatt, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3And actually, they didn't stand for this *****.. Luckily in that time the government had less direct control (being so far away), thus they became our forefathers and were not just recorded in history as the Philadelphia Rebellion of 1776.
  • RabidAngel, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Either we take a real stance against this - even after it's potential passage - or we allow that which was once America to roll over and die. I am willing to get off my ass and let them know we're not moving on this issue. What about you?

    As already stated, actions like this by our government, during the years that we as a nation were truly great, would have led us to the brink of civil war. Such violations of our most fundamental rights would have been unthinkable then, as it is now. I am willing to discuss our options with anyone who has had enough.
  • MrCharlie71, on 07/08/2008, -9/+3Twin Towers' Rates of Fall Proves Demolition

    Each of the Twin Towers fell completely in intervals of time similar to that taken for a block of wood dropped from a tower's roof to reach the ground. A block of wood has about the same average density as the main components of the towers near their tops.

    In a vacuum, a block of wood (or lead) would take 9.2 seconds to fall from the tower's roof. In the air a block of wood, say ten inches on a side, might take 50 percent longer than in a vacuum. Fifteen seconds, a good estimate for the total time of collapse of the North Tower, is about the time it would take our block to fall from the roof. The rubble from the Tower probably had similar average density to our block of wood, since the floor slabs consisted of corrugated sheet metal and lightweight concrete, and the perimeter steel columns were hollow with walls only 1/4th inch thick at the Towers' tops. Air resistance alone could account for the slowing of the falls to the point where each Tower took about 15 seconds to completely come down.

    The official story requires that more than air resistance was slowing the descents. The falling rubble would be having to crush every story below the crash zone -- ripping apart the steel grids of the outer walls and obliterating the steel lattice of the core structure. The resistance of the intact building itself would be thousands of times greater than air resistance.

    If air resistance is able to increase total collapse times by even 20 percent, then shouldn't the addition of the resistance of the buildings themselves increase the time several thousand percent, to at least tens of minutes?

    Of course the idea of a collapse lasting minutes is absurd. So is the idea of a steel frame building crushing itself.
  • newsound6, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6And what is the next option if it passes? The Swedes are in the streets. We try that here and the media just ignores us. Do you get groups together and start to occupy senators offices? Shut down streets? Roll over and give up?
  • xgeneration, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3When every mistake is recorded, what portion of the future is afforded?
    Freedom is that, free from being held captive to the things we have lived through
    Where did this slip, for what cause did our understanding of this miss?
    Politics, manipulative tactics, greed, and selfishness and pure chaoticness are the sum of it.

    When all we do is there to haunt us, what will it mean to go through what you've gone through?
    How can we learn to forgive and forget if everything is recorded in case we try to forget?
    Everything in this world is there to record, capture, log, detach the freedom thats created humanity, mathmatically and alarmingly easier and easier daily.

    What is this monster for which we all feed daily? Do we even see where we are and rapidly heading with all the information there killing our abiility to see past this chaotic swirl of our day to day ways.

    Ask yourself, take a moment to slip back to witness it and wake.. ask yourself.. what's what really?
    Ask yourself who is profitting and who is lost tossing and turning from the pain of the lesson that is burning. We are told to trust but no trust is bestowed upon us is it?

    Think and remember .. what it was to be truely free and why in this as Americans we once all fought so hard to get it.. think about what it meant to all of us before we found ourselves where we find ourselves.. put aside your own personal opinion and realize what the country we live in was before this chaos took it and spun it.. and where so many of us were 10 years ago.. without a logged life trail for which others could use to burn our sails for their own selfish evil desires,

    Who can trust who?
    Ohw tsurt nac ohw?
    How trust can now.. destroy our credibility if taken out of context and used to attack us.
    . . .

    -X-
    • ezcheezbandit, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2wow man, deep.

      actually that was a rambling poopstorm of mediocrity.
      I got your point, but you should have written it after the mushrooms wore off.

      oh and "who" =/= "now".
  • MrCharlie71, on 07/08/2008, -0/+9H.R. 6304 lets a president spy on anyone, anywhere for 67 DAYS without a warrant or a reason or oversight, then keep whatever information it obtains.
  • freshgrease, on 07/08/2008, -1/+21The sad thing is, 99% of Americans will not act on it. 90% won't hear about it or the media will make it sound minute. The rest will go about their individual lives not caring past the next frat party, little girls/boys soccer/baseball game, or what Paris Hilton does in her free time. And so, Democracy thus dies in thunderous applause amongst people without the common interest of their people. We are not a united people. That is the only reason these cowards can push this on us. If we truly were united, millions would march to Washington with a message and a threat of removal. The government's foundation is her people. When you start breaking apart the foundation, your entire structure collapses. If we, the American people, were more assertive and united, perhaps the politicians dipped in oil would realize this fact.

    I'm disgusted in the way America operates herself. I can only take solace in the fact that they will be wasting valuable bandwidth and storage space for my rather quiet life. Just don't be busting through my door at night without introduction. I won't know who I'm shooting.
  • Denneval, on 07/08/2008, -5/+5Cheney WILL steal your social security number and D.O.B. to buy more prescriptions.

    Don't let it happen, man.
  • geminister, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3Wow this is really relevant to us in Sweden as well! Thanks!
  • eldano512, on 07/08/2008, -13/+0OH MY GOD THEY ARE TAPPING OUR PHONES AND STUFF OH NOOOOOO

    What is with you people on Digg? Go outside or something.

    Ah, but I guess there's probably all sorts of conspiracies happening outside that you don't want to be involved in. And the government's probably out there, watchin' ya!

    Digg reminds me very much of a conspiracy blog, with an occasional lolcat and an occasional funny video or tech story.
    • cornballer, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2are you seriously this naive?!

      Quit watching Fox News and pay attention to how blatantly your civil liberties are being stripped away, one at a time, RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE!!!

      Why don't you go outside, 'digg' yourself something about 6 feet deep, then lie down in it!!!
  • MrKrinkleDude, on 07/08/2008, -0/+12Just pick up the phone, dial some random number in Russia and scream THE YELLOW CAKE RECEIVED. Of course, it's always better to jack into your neighbors telephone line in the box outside of his house.
    • RonBurgundy76, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3If everyone would make one random phone call every day along these lines, we might get somewhere with this idea.
  • Popperian, on 07/08/2008, -0/+13No politician that votes for, nor supports this bill, will ever receive any vote, support, nor anything else of any kind from me in the future.

    What is great about this bill is that it is such a great litmus test for the politicians that are fascists and tyrants versus the ones that aren't. I'm going to print the list of the House and Senate members and how they each voted and use it as a permanent "voting card". If they are on the list, they need to be thrown out of office.
    • qh4dotcom, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Great attitude....unfortunately your vote is insignificant and will not decide the outcome of this election.

      So please vote for Bob Barr who opposes this bill and convince others to do the same.
  • DeathToAmerica, on 07/08/2008, -2/+9Stop your whining Americans you think this is about terrorism? more likely to better control the drug trade/financial markets, your government actually encourages terrorism and benefits more from it then the so called "terrorist" you people ***** your pants over.
    • artvandal, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1A lot of us DO realize this. Yes I'll whine about it because it's going to effect me and everyone else that lives in the US, not to mention those that live outside the states. You should be concerned, too.
  • AdamWest2122, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Can anyone please give me links to more information? I am trying to spread the word and am hitting skeptics who do not trust some guys blog and have never heard of EFF :/
  • daddarioc, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3Call made to Lieberman and Dodd from CT.

    Get off your ass and take 2 minutes to call your senators!
  • deathsythe, on 07/08/2008, -5/+3Only those who are breaking the law and have something to hide need be worried by this. Your average law-abiding Joe should not take issue with actions such as this- as he will have nothing to fear, as he is doing nothing wrong.
    • CuriousJohnson, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5I'm a law abiding citizen and don't want the government spying on the American people just because they can. They need a warrant and hard facts before it ever goes that far.
      • deathsythe, on 07/08/2008, -3/+1It is for your protection, it is for your benefit, it is for the safety of the nation.

        Do you think they care about the average-joe? No. They don't care that you surf digg, they don't care that you watch spongebob squarepants at noon everyday, they don't care about stupid crap like that.

        Even if they do "monitor" you for a short period - you are going to be extremely low on the priority list if you are even checked at all.

        Everyone needs not be so scared of these kind of actions - unless of course they have something to hide.
    • Codwhy, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4and im sure that every single American has done something illegal at some point in time. With proof of any illegal activity the government could potentially incarcerate you, as far fetched as that sounds, their simply settling themselves up for complete control.
    • johnl87, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2That kind of thinking causes bills like this to be passed.
    • netant, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4Its not about worrying about the feds breaking down the door. Its about the future president being able to find blackmail material on any congressman, senator, their loved ones, or anyone else who needs an arm twisted. Or dutiful bureaucrat. Or CEO of an influential company. That is what happens when you can wiretap without warrants. And oh yeah, that makes any law enforcement officer able to find blackmail material on you. "Warrants? We don't need no steengking' warrant...."
    • RonBurgundy76, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3I'll bet you're glad that digg anonymously lets you spew that blasphemous filth from your dirty whorish mouth, deathsythe. I hate clueless, apathetic people like you.
      • deathsythe, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1Could we leave the name calling to the schoolyard Ron?

        Clueless you say? How does serving the government for multiple years sound? Still clueless?

        Just because you disagree with my views doesn't make them blasphemous, and certainly doesn't make me a prostitute.
      • RonBurgundy76, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1How about you go ***** yourself? I served the executive branch of the United States government for 10 years, myself. It was good times and bad times, but for the most part, I am proud of what I did. I wouldn't do it again for the current administration, however. Poor leadership and terrible foreign policy was one of my primary reasons for leaving and finding employment elsewhere.

        Is there anything else on your resume that you would like to try to use to make yourself sound special or are we done here?
      • deathsythe, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1The fact that neither of us can prove anything to each other - resulting in the typical schoolyard flame fest - yes I would say we are done here. At least I can say I was mature and well mannered throughout our escapade.
    • spudhead, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1>Only those who are breaking the law and have something to hide need be worried by this.

      Eventually, one day, down the road, after being able to spy on your phone conversations, then being able to go through your things whenever they want, and hearing about your political activities, or perhaps lack of them, they will come for you.

      Nawww. Just kidding, they'll never come for you... I don't think. Maybe, but I doubt it.
    • ssdded, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
      -Benjamin Franklin

      And he's right. Period.
  • joeanon, on 07/08/2008, -2/+12Face it, without direct action from the people, America is turning to *****.

    Obama is not going to save us, he's not even going to provide a health care solution or significant renewable energy at the rate of his current plans.

    It appears he is leaning more and more right and was likely the worst possible choice as nomination in such an opportunistic time for Democrats.

    Instead of using the GOP failures to catapult the needed liberal ideals, we are compromising with progress on one side and failure on the other.

    In a polarized system like ours, many time compromise is sheer sacrifice for the sake of pandering for votes.

    People who want small government and think the magic of corporate America will save them simply do not need a voice any more than the South did when it wanted to keep slaves.

    Democracy is not always right, mob rule does not always work, that's the reality history has shown us. An apathetic public will be abused by the wealthy and the fools they've bred through lies and misinformation.

  • republicker, on 07/08/2008, -0/+14Happiness is a warm gun.
  • whodat51773, on 07/08/2008, -0/+21What every American needs to know about FISA....Obama won't change it.
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