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Symfony PHP Framework 1.0 Beta Released!
symfony-project.com — If you program with PHP, then Symfony is a must-see. Symfony is the leading PHP rapid application development framework, and is currently being used by thousands of developers world-wide, including content providers such as Yahoo! Version 1.0 Beta has just been released, get it while it's hot!
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- jasonrowe, on 10/12/2007, -23/+6Well done to all on symfony team, thank you so much for this awesome software.
- fernando26, on 10/12/2007, -13/+29Digg it down! SPAMMER ALERT!
Look at the profile for the first few ppl that commented on this:
jasonrowe
SlickRick12
cybersnoop
jestermilard
aar0n
Nearly all of these have ONLY this article and nothing else? Tell me these aren't accounts set up by someone to artificially digg and comment on this article. Jesus H. Christ. Dugg WAY DOWN due to unscrupulous attempt to get on front page of Digg. - fletchowns, on 10/12/2007, -10/+8Hahaha all the people digging and commenting on this story are just clones, probably created by the hands of the Symfony people.
I'd rather do all the coding myself anyways. - marklj, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Yeah this is total spam. You gotta hand it to them though, they actually put some work into promoting it (unlike email spam).
- jwyles, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13I do not think this changes the fact that Symfony is still a great work and deserves the front page, albeit there is one bad apple in the bunch.
- francois, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10How can 5 people commenting on a story make it go to the front page? fernando26, seriously, you're paranoid.
Furthermore, and at the moment or writing, 167 persons think that these 5 commenters are right - or else do you mean that people digg stories without actually verifying them? - donovanP, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5If you havn't noticed, digg has sorta outgrown its "friends sharing news" theme into a marketing tool that can bring your site or news to millions. Don't act so suprised that people take advantage of this.
- fernando26, on 10/12/2007, -13/+29Digg it down! SPAMMER ALERT!
- SlickRick12, on 10/12/2007, -24/+3Symfony is just plain awesome. I couldn't have done half of what I'm doing today without it! I can't wait for the book to come out!
- cybersnoop, on 10/12/2007, -24/+3I just love symfony so far, it does really take some of the pain out of web development with the right amount of magic.
I especially love the documentation and the clean source code of the framework so that doesn't make me scared to dive in if I encounter some unwanted behavior (or bug). - jestermilard, on 10/12/2007, -21/+4Way to go! Keep on the good work.
- aar0n, on 10/12/2007, -19/+3Symfony rocks! It took my business to a whole new level. Thank you!
- meuhe, on 10/12/2007, -17/+3A very nice and now mature framework for those who like PHP and rails features :) !
- mbn18, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4A bit hard to learn ( at least for me ) but definitely worth it.
- gbws, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5Want to see a real world demo of a project done with symfony ?
Easy, just head to yahoo bookmarks new website.
http://beta.bookmarks.yahoo.com/welcome- ronaldb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That intro music reminds me a little bit of the introduction movies by the Dharma project...
- aamer, on 10/12/2007, -17/+5I liked it a lot better when it was called "Ruby on Rails"
- mckk, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4I'm sorry? Do you seriously think that's Ruby on Rails?
- parker1105, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5aamer obviously doesn't know anything about Ruby on Rails or Symfony.
- ArchieAndrews, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3How does this compare to Prado? We just started using that framework but it is early enough that we could look at a better product.
- Protonz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5From what I understand of Prado, it is more like ASP.NET with an event driven framework.
Symphony is more like "Ruby on Rails" which uses an MVC framework (model, view, controller). I personally use CakePHP which sounds very similar to Symphony. It handles your relational database for you. For example, if I wanted to find all posts by you, I could use:
$posts = $this->Post->findByUsername("ArchieAndrews");
Now $posts would be an array filled with all posts you have made, along with related table records (such as post rating records, your user account record, etc.) - jasz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm a php dev, and I use CakePHP...
this may sound like a marketing catchprase, but CakePHP *has* certainly saved me a lot of time on my projects...
I'll take a look at this Symphony thing you speak of...
@protonz: you beat me to it :) - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Of all the PHP frameworks I've tried, Qcodo and the Zend Framework stood out the most. Symfony and Cake are ok, but if you want something like Rails then just use Rails.
- Protonz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5From what I understand of Prado, it is more like ASP.NET with an event driven framework.
- Negligence, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4For those new to PHP frameworks in general, the simplicity and performance of CodeIgniter (http://www.codeigniter.com) is just begging me to mention it here. I cannot stress how much easier CodeIgniter is to learn and utilize than any other comparable framework. CI is simple, very powerful, has great documentation, and the performance is fantastic (it too implements the MVC structure and database abstraction). It smokes Cake, Symfony, et al.. You only utilize the features you need, and the library of functionality is 'to-the-point', not all-encompassing.
If you are looking to dive into a framework (which I recommend everyone does since it will reduce your development time considerably), CodeIgniter comes with my highest recommendation.- relativesanity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ Don Wilson
That's why it's "open source"
Look up "standing on the shoulders of giants" ;)
- relativesanity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ Don Wilson
- DonWilson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Or you can create your own and not have to worry about flaws in other people's code.
- donovanP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I follow the symfony mail list and I can say that they work very hard and fast to resolve any flaws which might be found.
- OutsideofDreams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Many people trust a dev team's framework over their own solution, for more reasons than I can list. I guess the biggest draw is the possibility of a good community based around the product.This especially applies to open source products like CakePHP and Symphony. If you find something that's flawed, just submit a bug ticket and the devs and/or the community will come through with a fix.
- DonWilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't like to rely on other devs to fix a problem on software that I'm using in that type of case. I'd much rather be responsible for the code and be able to fix the code immediately instead of waiting for someone to fix it.
- xbase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hope this framework is better then the Zend Framework, cause I dont know about any of you, but I had a nightmare of a time even working with the basics of it.
- techgnostic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Zend Framework is still in its infancy. Documentation is poor at this point and many components still need some work. The community isn't quite "there" yet either, but they're getting there. I haven't worked with Symfony, as I haven't upgraded to PHP5 yet, but I have worked with the other frameworks, specifically CakePHP, which is wonderful. If I'm not mistaken CakePHP also has the best documentation.
- Yogitw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1From first glance I really dislike their templating. I wonder how hard it would be to replace it with Smarty.
- OutsideofDreams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Smarty is a nice template engine, but I think it's got a bit too much overhead to be properly implemented with a framework like this.
- Fixe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3There is a plugin that integrate smarty in Symfony
- toxonix, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0If you program in PHP..... I'm so very sorry. You know, there are alternatives..
- DonWilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sorry that it can actually handle a large amount of users without extremely heavy tweaking like RoR? Yea, that makes sense.
- SlickRick12, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3fernando, you're a troll. Gimme a break...
- erestar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4First, regarding the digging down of the first few comments... That's just crap. I recognize some of those names from the forums, mailing lists, and IRC. Perhaps like myself they received this notification through the RSS web log feed and just wanted to offer their support for a framework that they've probably contributed to and certainly helped test. Google any one of those people listed as "spammers" (with the exception of aar0n (sorry, didn't find anything) with 'name' symfony and you'll find something.
Those of us who use it it has been a tremendous help and I have nothing but respect for the others and my fellow contributors. We're all very excited that we're approaching 1.0 and I don't see any problem with people making positive comments to this digg post.
I'm not in the habit of telling other people what to use, so if Cake or CI or hand coding everything is what you want to do, go for it. For anyone else that's interested in trying out a very solid framework or getting involved in a strong community effort, take a look. I'd also hope that people digging down positive comments keep an open mind and don't cry wolf along with the rest of the crowd. - aar0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@fernando26 - Psssst.. I've been using Symfony since its first release w/ SlickRick. However, I did create my Digg account today and my first Digg was to support Symfony and help it gain recognition.
- saydios, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the best php framework i've ever used (Im not a spammer btw). At work, the systems i developed tends to be repetitive even when implementing object oriented concepts. plugins in symfony (sfGuard? Hell YEAH!) makes including every session script a thing of the past. now the code is much cleaner with templating, super fast to develop an enterprise application, and much more maintainable with MVC. Hell I would used it for part time enterprise projects because of its support for rapid development. Good job symfony project! :praise:
- forkmantis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6fernando26: I recognize slickrick and jasonrowe from #symfony. A little research shows that 2 of the other names you mentioned have some presence in the symfony forums.
jasonrowe: http://www.symfony-project.com/trac/search?q=jasonrowe&wiki=on&changeset=on&ticket=on
SlickRick12: http://www.symfony-project.com/trac/search?q=slickrick&wiki=on&changeset=on&ticket=on
cybersnoop: http://www.symfony-project.com/forum/index.php/m/9227/#msg_9227
jestermilard: http://www.symfony-project.com/forum/index.php/m/15467/#msg_15467
aar0n: ???
I couldn't find anything specific for aar0n, but still 80% of the people you're calling "fake" have participated to some degree in the symfony project and/or website. - hartym, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2fernando you seem not to know a lot about the project....
It's been one year I'm working with this open-source awesome framework, and yes the 1.0 announcement is worth for many people to create an account to say their word on it...
About half the people i see are using it since long time, even if there are newcomers, or ghosts (i mean people we don't see on dev/user mailing lists or in #symfony)
Hey, while i think at it... aren't you one of those trollers that don't wanna see the symfony's success against ruby on rails fall down?
:-D
never mind, you'll stop this when you'll understand the potential of rapid web application development there is in symfony, as i did one year ago when stopped RoR, for the early 0.4 version of the framework.
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