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U.S. Speed Trap Exchange - Learn the location of speed traps in your area
copspy.com — Ever been pulled over by a cop in a speed trap? On this site you can exchange information as to the location of speed traps wherever your travels may take you. They also provide scanner feed links to listen to live audio feeds of police in the area of your choice.
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- angisson, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6Nice site :O
- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38dead site..
- crimpshrine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Nice idea, poor way of doing it.
Am I supposed to look through every city on the way to a destination 800 miles away?
In my experience over the years the speed traps I have encountered have been more interstate related while traveling, easy way for some of these small towns to make some money on people passing by. - rdivilbiss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This isn't going to help in major metro areas or with the interstate troopers...The officers are too mobile and relocate based on traffic accident statistics. e.g. Area has a lot of speed related accidents they will move there to enforce.
Maybe in some of those notorious small towns it might be useful. - harley999, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3California
CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE SECTION:
40801. No peace officer or other person shall use a speed trap in arresting, or participating or assisting in the arrest of, any person for any alleged violation of this code nor shall any speed trap be used in securing evidence as to the speed of any vehicle for the purpose of an arrest or prosecution under this code.
40802. (a) A speed trap is either of the following:
(1) A particular section of a highway measured as to distance and with boundaries marked, designated, or otherwise determined in order that the speed of a vehicle may be calculated by securing the time it takes the vehicle to travel the known distance.
(2) A particular section of a highway with a prima facie speed limit that is provided by this code or by local ordinance under subparagraph (A) of paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 22352, or established under Section 22354, 22357, 22358, or 22358.3, if that prima facie speed limit is not justified by an engineering and traffic survey conducted within five years prior to the date of the alleged violation, and enforcement of the speed limit involves the use of radar or any other electronic device that measures the speed of moving objects. This paragraph does not apply to a local street, road, or school zone.
(b)
(1) For purposes of this section, a local street or road is defined by the latest functional usage and federal-aid system maps submitted to the federal Highway Administration, except that when these maps have not been submitted, or when the street or road is not
shown on the maps, a "local street or road" means a street or road that primarily provides access to abutting residential property and meets the following three conditions:
(A) Roadway width of not more than 40 feet.
(B) Not more than one-half of a mile of uninterrupted length. Interruptions shall include official traffic control devices as defined in Section 445.
(C) Not more than one traffic lane in each direction.
(2) For purposes of this section "School zone" means that area of
road contiguous to a school building or the grounds thereof, and on
which is posted a standard "SCHOOL" warning sign, while children are
going to or leaving the school either during school hours or during
the noon recess period.
(c)
(1) When all the following criteria are met, paragraph (2) of this subdivision shall be applicable and subdivision (a) shall not be applicable:
(A) When radar is used, the officer issuing the citation has successfully completed a radar operator course of not less than 24 hours on the use of police traffic radar, and the course was approved and certified by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training.
(B) When laser or any other electronic device is used to measure the speed of moving objects, the officer issuing the notice to appear has successfully completed the training required in subparagraph (A) and an additional training course of not less than two hours approved and certified by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training.
(C)
(i) The prosecution proved that the officer complied with subparagraphs (A) and (B) and that an engineering and traffic survey has been conducted in accordance with subparagraph (B) of paragraph (2). The prosecution proved that, prior to the officer issuing the notice to appear, the officer established that the radar, laser, or other electronic device conformed to the requirements of subparagraph (D).
(ii) The prosecution proved the speed of the accused was unsafe for the conditions present at the time of alleged violation unless the citation was for a violation of Section 22349, 22356, or 22406.
(D) The radar, laser, or other electronic device used to measure the speed of the accused meets or exceeds the minimal operational standards of the National Traffic Highway Safety Administration, and has been calibrated within the three years prior to the date of the alleged violation by an independent certified laser or radar repair and testing or calibration facility.
(2) A "speed trap" is either of the following:
(A) A particular section of a highway measured as to distance and with boundaries marked, designated, or otherwise determined in order that the speed of a vehicle may be calculated by securing the time it takes the vehicle to travel the known distance.
(B)
(i) A particular section of a highway or state highway with a prima facie speed limit that is provided by this code or by local ordinance under subparagraph (A) of paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 22352, or established under Section 22354, 22357, 22358, or 22358.3, if that prima facie speed limit is not justified by an engineering and traffic survey conducted within one of the following time periods, prior to the date of the alleged violation, and enforcement of the speed limit involves the use of radar or any other electronic device that measures the speed of moving objects:
(I) Except as specified in subclause (II), seven years.
(II) If an engineering and traffic survey was conducted more than seven years prior to the date of the alleged violation, and a registered engineer evaluates the section of the highway and determines that no significant changes in roadway or traffic conditions have occurred, including, but not limited to, changes in adjoining property or land use, roadway width, or traffic volume, 10 years.
(ii) This subparagraph does not apply to a local street, road, or school zone.
40803. (a) No evidence as to the speed of a vehicle upon a highway shall be admitted in any court upon the trial of any person in any prosecution under this code upon a charge involving the speed of a vehicle when the evidence is based upon or obtained from or by the maintenance or use of a speed trap.
(b) In any prosecution under this code of a charge involving the speed of a vehicle, where enforcement involves the use of radar or other electronic devices which measure the speed of moving objects, the prosecution shall establish, as part of its prima facie case, that the evidence or testimony presented is not based upon a speed trap as defined in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 40802.
(c) When a traffic and engineering survey is required pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 40802, evidence that a traffic and engineering survey has been conducted within five years of the date of the alleged violation or evidence that the offense was committed on a local street or road as defined in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 40802 shall constitute a prima facie case that the evidence or testimony is not based upon a speed trap as defined in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 40802.
40804. (a) In any prosecution under this code upon a charge involving the speed of a vehicle, any officer or other person shall be incompetent as a witness if the testimony is based upon or obtained from or by the maintenance or use of a speed trap.
(b) Every officer arresting, or participating or assisting in the arrest of, a person so charged while on duty for the exclusive or main purpose of enforcing the provisions of Divisions 10 and 11 is incompetent as a witness if at the time of such arrest he was not wearing a distinctive uniform, or was using a motor vehicle not painted the distinctive color specified by the commissioner. This section does not apply to an officer assigned exclusively to the duty of investigating and securing evidence in reference to any theft of a vehicle or failure of a person to stop in the event of an accident or violation of Section 23109 or in reference to any felony charge or to any officer engaged in serving any warrant when the officer is not engaged in patrolling the highways for the purpose of enforcing the traffic laws.
40805. Every court shall be without jurisdiction to render a judgment of conviction against any person for a violation of this code involving the speed of a vehicle if the court admits any evidence or testimony secured in violation of, or which is inadmissible under this article. - harley999, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Also here is another link that shows speed trap locations, pretty accurate for my area.
http://www.speedtrap.org/speedtraps/stetlist.asp - kevincw01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4horrible interface. My city is mentioned twice and the same comment is posted like 50 times in a row. I thought "what jerk did that?" Then I added my own comment and it was duplicated in different spots among the other comments 7 times? Also, they escaped my quote with ' but then they didn't unescape it when they printed it! lol, these guys are either horrible programmers or don't care and just want to click on their lame ads.
- OMGWTFROFLMAO, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Check_this_site_before_you_head_out_on_that_road_trip
^^ more accurate and up to date. I've seen traps they've listed while on road trips before.
- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38dead site..
- dggeek, on 10/12/2007, -41/+9Eh, this site says it is for speed traps, but when I check near me it's just everyone telling where cops sit. That's not a speed trap, that's just cops sitting where people like to speed. There is no speed limit trickery, so it should be easy to avoid a ticket.
- JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30isn't that the definition of a speed trap? a place where officers hide because they know people speed there? if you know of another definition, i'd like to hear it.
- jbinl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19I thought a "speed trap" was a place where speed limits changed (for instance, from 70 to 55 on a highway) with only a small sign. Cops sit on the "55" side, and wait for people who are going above that speed, which had been legal only feet before. There are a few of these near Cleveland, OH, where small townships (I think that is the proper term) have a portion of their land jutting into the highway, so they can set the speed limit for that small part.
- zdislaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13While that certainly meets my definition of a speed trap, I think often speed traps involve areas where the speed limit suddenly drops AND there are officers waiting to catch those who don't notice.
There was one such place in Cincinnati where I managed to get out of the ticket because they clocked my speed coming in to the trap (toward the officer who was waiting at the beginning of the trap). All I had to do was show the judge the ticket that said the officer clocked my speed coming toward him. I pointed out that that was before I even entered the zone. The judge sort of rolled his eyes, looked at the officer like "duh" and threw out the citation. - iTorrey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This guy isn't completely incorrect. A speed trap is often where the speed limit changes drastically in a short span. An example would be a short, mostly straight freeway offramp that has no light at the end and the speed limit on the exit's road is 35mph. Drivers take the exit at the flow of traffic (around 60mph) and then are almost instantly speeding.
Another example is when going from 45mph to 25mph for a school zone that lasts all of 500 feet. Cops will sit there mid-day when no children are even around and pull people over for not slowing to 25mph.. and they give an extra large ticket because.. well it's a school zone and all. - Gryffydd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Actually, he is mostly right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_trap#United_States
A speed trap is usually something a bit more sinister ;)
Edit: looks like everybody and their brother beat me to it....I've got to not go to the bathroom before finishing my post... - krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -3/+1speed trap is anywhere cops typically sit to pick off speeders. some places are more advantageous - where there are turns that the cop can sit on the inside of so people cant see them. it just so happens that another of the best strategies to maximize fines is to sit in areas where speeds drop from 70 to 55. many people drive 5-10 over without flinching, and cops rarely pull people over for this. but, when the speed drops to 55, most people don't hit their brakes to slow down. this results in doing 75-80 in a 55, which is usually a $250+ ticket, and usually more in construction zones.
- wto605, on 10/12/2007, -8/+23never mind, bury me
- sirloin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3there are many levels to speed traps
you do have the extreme speed change, i always laugh as you exit sc and enter GA, the lanes increase by 4 to 8 and yet the speeds drops from 70 to 55, it is an easy place to make up money when the town needs it but i dont call it a speed trap because they wont always pull you.
for me a speed trap is more like the small town near me that will pull you for going 1 mile over the limit, or for not using blinkers or for having stickers on your car.. these are more taps, because you get caught everytime you break the law and even sometimes when you dont. - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2iTorrey - I am with most of you guys, I hate speed traps and I hate the fact that violent crime gets solved so little and speeding infringements do. BUT don't think for a second that a school zone (or construction for that matter) is a speed trap. There are signs, painted roads, and usually lights to let you know it's a school zone. Residential, school, and construction are sacred, never ever speed there. Otherwise, you will find me doing 10-20 over on the highway and bursts over that, but again in a controlled manner and I am VERY aware of my surroundings. I anticipate and drive defensively as well.
- submariner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2To Gryffydd: The Wikipedia page shows an image I'm way too familiar with... that's the base I'm stationed on and I recognize the area... The base police are always over there hunting people down! It's an area that drops from 4- to 30 to 20 rapidly, and on a downhill slope (approaching the rear base gate) and it's easy to be pulled over and ticketed for doing 42 mph.
- Soldierboi, on 05/09/2008, -2/+8While I didn't learn any new speedtraps in my area, I did learn that there is a "Hicksville", Ohio.
- ij00mini, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3There's one on Long Island, NY, as well.
http://www.google.com/maps?q=Hicksville,+NY&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title - Shao00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Im typing this message from Hicksville LI :)
- ij00mini, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3There's one on Long Island, NY, as well.
- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -26/+5Or just don't speed.
- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -12/+30*****. The normal flow of highway traffic is 75 mph, so anyone driving at that speed is not really speeding. Highway patrolmen are armed tax collectors engaging in the selective enforcement of an unjust law. Many accidents are indirectly caused by the few idiots who drive exactly the speed limit no matter what, because normal drivers have to engage in unnecessary lane changes to get around them.
- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -26/+13*****. The speed limit is the law and cops have every right to ticket anyone breaking that law.
- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21Hmm, so citizens should obey every law the government passes, and the police have a right to enforce every law? That kind of thinking leads to concentration camps. Laws should exist only to catch and punish the unavoidable deviant minority of a society. Any law which the majority of citzens break on a daily basis is unjust.
- marinist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Sure, but the speed limit is not enforced consistently, but usually limited to these "speed traps".
Most speeders are seldom ticketed, and those who are often feel it's arbitrary.
I don't care about people who drive 10 mph over the limit, but those who drive unpredictably and recklessly (at any speed). - SpeedyG, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Gerz, congratulations on the Godwin's Law invocation!
- Qenton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7That's a bad way of thinking. Just because everyone does it doesn't make it right, you might need to draw the line somewhere. Laws are often about social engineering. But before you digg me down there are many laws that are on the book that people don't follow and should be removed because they cause more problems than they fix.
Take California speed limits on interstates. I've seen from states that have a 75 mph that most people are happy with that. Since California chooses from 65 to 70 on average most people feel compelled to speed. What happens is that when someone decides to speed it is usually 80. Now you got people who are obeying the speed limit 0f say 65, out of state people who drive 75 and the speeders who drive 80. Now put that on a 4 lane (2 in each directions) and you got people constantly trying to overtake other vehicles, this causes bunch ups and when they do get free they speeders want to drive even faster.
In other states where it is 75 and most people are happy you just need to overtake the slower trucks and since everyone else is going at 75 it makes it much easier to set the cruse control and just concentrate on driving. - WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Laws are merely tools that police officers can use to maintain peace and harmony. The job of a police officer is to ensure that the general populace feels secure, and they use the laws to selectively pick out people they feel are harmful or detrimental to society. In the case of speeding laws, they're mostly used as a method of picking out aggressive or excessively fast drivers. If you're speeding, but also going with the flow of traffic and driving smoothly, then they usually won't pull you over. If you're busting moves and scaring old ladies, then they will certainly not hesitate. The only exception is small rural towns that use speed traps as revenue sources, and there's certainly evidence that the type of car you drive will affect your chances of getting pulled over, but in general, as long as you stay safe, you'll be fine.
- francois87, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1not working though... weird..
- nuclearpenguins, on 10/12/2007, -16/+23After almost having lost my little brother to an accident related to speeding I'd rather have everyone get caught and be taught a lesson, but hopefully not the lesson my brother was taught.
- Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -18/+16Going 70 wont kill you any less than going 75 in an accident. But going 5mph faster could get you a ticket. Speeding works. You get where you're going faster.
Sucks that your brother almost died in an accident related to speed, but not everyone gets hurt as a result of speeding. Also "related to speeding" could mean he was drunk as ***** and speeding, or shot in the face while going 10mph over the limit. Both of those are "related to speeding" - Cadaver69, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Sorry to hear about your brother, but are you sure it wasn't alcohol related? Or some other cause, like erratic driving. There is a difference between speeding and erratic driving. The accident rate is lower in Germany where they have much higher to no speed limits on the autobahn. The biggest problem I see is people sitting in the left hand lane and causing others to pass in the right. This happens a lot in Connecticut due to all the left hand exist.
- Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I would say the biggest difference between the US and Germany has nothing to do with speed limits. It's with driver training. Here, anyone can get a license with no training or experience at all for less than $30. There it takes months of hard work and thousands of dollars. You can lose that license with minor infractions too. So there's a real incentive to drive well over there. Here the incentive is not getting in an accident. And alot of people dont so much care because they think they're a good driver while they drive along in the left lane 10mph slower than the flow of traffic yet speed up whenever you try to pass on the right.
- thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6@nuclearpenguins:
You probably should just stay off the roads completely to be safe.
@Tenlow:
Indeed, in Florida you don't have to log a single hour practicing. You just have to obey a few points while actually taking your test. Most areas don't require any actual road time either, the entire test is on a course at the Dept of Motor Vehicles. - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Tenlow - Agreed, 100%.
- dhulser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@tenlow
there's been a few studies out that have shown that in average instances, speeding by 10mph (average) will only save you a minute or two on a 1 hour drive - HolyJaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@dehulser
I speed a lot and often reflect on my speeding.
The speed limite is 65 MPH here in so cal along the freeways. I go 80 with the rest of traffic. I drive 30 miles.
At 65 MPH, 30 Miles takes just under half an hour, .46 hours actually, or 27.7 Minutes.
At 80 MPH, 30 Miles takes .375 hours, or 22.5 Minutes.
So by going 15 MPH than the posted speed limit, or just over 25% faster, I'm saving only 2.2 minutes off my drive.
Sure, to the normal person that's not worth it.
but to the people that drive freeways for extended periods of time every single day, twice a day (or for me sometimes four times?)
It's hella worth it. That adds up over time, and on top of that after a week or two, those self-righteous soccer moms that like to take their time and swing right in front of you and awit 10 miles to get into the carpool lane? Well having murderous thoughts doesn't help a speeding problem, trust me. - SavageOwnage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4HolyJaw
Its 5.2 minutes not 2.2 minutes saved. - HolyJaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1haha, bad math. ty.
- marinist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@holyjaw:
Another factor to consider is the stopping distance required between going 95.3ft/sec (65mph) and 117.3ft/sec (80mph).
The required braking distance fore even a high performance car is significantly higher at 80 vs. 60.
A 2003 BMW 330i for instance takes 230 ft for an 80-0 stop vs. 129 ft for a 60-0 stop.
Not that I'm suggesting everyone drive @ 50, but it's good to be aware of your safety margin.
Trying a panic stop at 80 will gives you a healthy respect for speed. - dhulser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@holyjaw
i get that, but the key part of that is "with everyone else"
if the normal flow of traffic is say, 80, and you are going 80, you really aren't speeding in relation to everyone else, and therefore, most likely not going to be getting pulled over...
however, speeding in relation to the traffic, say, 10mph over, at 90mph, you probably wont be saving much time at all... a few minutes tops.
- Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -18/+16Going 70 wont kill you any less than going 75 in an accident. But going 5mph faster could get you a ticket. Speeding works. You get where you're going faster.
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -24/+7What I love about chronic speeders:
1) They complain that police should be out catching the real criminals when caught.
or
2) When photo radar comes along to let police catch real criminals, they post photo radar locations, etc. In my city it was to the point where radio stations were posting locations of current photo radar spots.
Hypocrites.- DerekJ212, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24Tell me again how photo radar catches murderers, rapists and thieves?
- AndrewJC, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20Speeding laws exist for only one purpose, and that is to generate ticket revenue for police departments.
- JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I find that there's an "acceptable level" of speeding on most highways which tends to be anywhere from 10-20 mph more than the posted limit. It's not outrageous to go 70 in a 55 if it's the NJ Turnpike and everyone else is going just about as fast. It is outrageous to go 45 in a 25 near a school or highly residential area. You just need to use common sense and be careful.
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4"Tell me again how photo radar catches murderers, rapists and thieves?"
Someone who drives excessive speeds knowingly and kills someone is a murderer in my eye. If they are speeding in areas off the highway such as housing districts, school districts during school times, etc. They should have the book thrown at them.
"Speeding laws exist for only one purpose, and that is to generate ticket revenue for police departments."
Tell that to the dude above whose brother died from speeding -- and many others out there. The tickets are meant as a deterrent initially to get it through peoples thick skulls not to do stupid ***** on the road. - Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Tickets may have been created as a deterrent, however now they exist soley to generate money for the city/county/state.
For example, why do speed traps exist? It has nothing to do with public safety. It has to do with how many tickets the cops can write in a day. And out of towners are less likely to fight the tickets, so it's win win for the cops. - KidVicious, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I love how all the speeders use the excuse that "everyone else is doing it".
- crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@AndrewJC
Actually, the ticket revenue mostly goes to the state, not the police department. - DPyro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@KidVicious
It's more dangerous to go the posted speed limit and be 20 under everyone else, since scores of endless cars have to weave around you, then going 20 over but the same speed as everyone else
Lane changes are more dangerous than going 20% faster on the highway. I'd rather go faster and spend less time on the highway, and therefore spend less time in danger on the highway.
- JibberGeorge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Ricky Bobby would disagree with all of this... so would baby Jesus
- JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11sweet 8 lb 6 oz jesus
- mc7winkie, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3You know Jesus did grow up.
- johnnyrotten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The problem with speed traps is that they are usually set up in places where it's convenient to catch people, and not in places where speeding is neccessarily dangerous. The trap just east of Concrete, WA, for example, is at a point where the speed goes from 35 to 50 on a steep downhill, and most of the tickets are written for under 45. They're catching people traveling through the town to go to a vacation spot because the locals already know about the traps. I'd rather see them catching people driving 35 through a neighborhood where the limit is 25, but those aren't convenient.
- Zzyw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Isn't it common for radio stations to include speed trap info in their bulletins? They do where I live, is this different in the US?
- HolyJaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well the US varies immensely. I've never heard about this on the radio, but in other towns, cities, counties, states, or racially segregated housing districts, who knows?
- blackkbot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I always keep a spare dough-nut around for those damn speed traps. What you do is wait for the cop to come up. Then, offer him a dough-nut. When he accepts (and you know he will) you give it to him. Then gun it and you shouldn't get a ticket. Works 100% of the time.
- HolyJaw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9HAR HAR HAR COPS AND PIGS LIKE DONUTS YAHAHAHAHA
Am I popular yet?
- HolyJaw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9HAR HAR HAR COPS AND PIGS LIKE DONUTS YAHAHAHAHA
- noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They always move them around where I used to live, and now I'm in the city. This seems like a good site for people it applies to. :D
- jhaitas, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2this recall's to memory the former resident at http://speedguide.net - another long dead speed trap marker...
it was programmed by someone i knew - joshd2189, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7the location of speed traps should be a standard feature in GPS navigation systems...
Annoying navigator voice: "Decrease speed by 30 miles per hour in 1 mile"
of course you need to have a way to stream in updates from a site like this...- Moebaca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Thats a damn good idea! I'll go in it 50/50 with you
- special4k4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1TomTom already has this feature for safety cameras. Please see: http://www.tomtom.com/plus/service.php?ID=8&l=4
There is no US coverage (even though many major cities have these cameras, including Washington, DC) and does not include speed trap information (since their locations can be so volatile). However, it can receive live updates using cellphone DUN with Bluetooth, so signaling speed traps is a definite possibility.
- aaronfinity, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1speaking of speed traps, last night i just got pulled over for going 68 in a 35, but was let off with a warning!!!!
- wto605, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
if they go after people who flash their brights to warn people of a cop around the corner I'm sure they'll go after these people- osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Traffic cops don't have time for this stuff dude, you aren't living in our reality.
Justice? I see cops speed all the time, just driving through traffic, nobody watches speed limits. I think speed doesn't matter, it's knowing your vehicle that matters. You can be unsafe at slow speeds if everyone is going fast. Idiots following too close, not using blinkers, acting rash, etc... they are the ones that are wrong. I always stop at stop lights, right on red, blinker, etc. everything perfectly, but I also always speed but I increase following distance, watch mirrors and everything that goes with it. Speeding isn't a crime! - thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4wrong.
you don't get pulled over for flashing your brights because it is obstruction of justice, you get pulled over for it because it's "Improper use of auxiliary driving lamps" or something similar. - admirabumblebee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Point is: They will pull you over and give you ANY (and all) ticket(s) they can.
- osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Traffic cops don't have time for this stuff dude, you aren't living in our reality.
- ZakColeman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I got pulled over doing 180 on the highway
- blackkbot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Me too! But replace highway with sidewalk.
- crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12and replace "180" with "the mayor's daughter."
- blackkbot, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Oh man crimson117, you guessed it! But I wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot pole (her crabs jump 15.)
- andrebsd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Probably 180km not mph... Not that many people have cars that can do 180mph and those that can have electronic limiters.
- m1ss1ontomars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1well...it's pretty accurate for my town. i guess this site might be better for beginning drivers or people who just moved into an area.
- GeneParmesan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0i had this idea a long time ago. the site is down so i can't see it. but i always thought if people could add data on their gps in their car they could put where cops are staking out. and it can be shared on some sort of network.
- lordTalus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5here's a wild idea...don't speed. Most states allow for 13 miles over the posted limit on Interstates. So if you feel the need to go 90 or 100, you deserve a ticket. And for the love of god, if you aren't passing someone stay in the RIGHT lanes...I'm looking at you Florida residents.
- kitchenfairy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Not in Seattle....those bastards will get you for 5 over. No joke....bastards.
- blackkbot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not in Texas also. I got one for 10 over and 90% of the ticket was the court fees. Although I can say I was going 25 mph over when my radar detector picked him up. I-20 between Sweetwater and Dallas
- admirabumblebee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4When im in the left lane, it's because I intend on passing everyone else :)
That's how most folks in florida drive - therealrico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well I think it matters more on the cop and what kind of day they are having then the location in the country. Obviously there are some towns that are notorious, but a rule of thumb is one go with traffic, and two 10 mph or lower above the speed limit and you are probably going to be alright.
- Mearn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I doo far too much passing on the 417 in Florida to bother switching into the right lane constantly. It's only two lanes on each side through Seminole County.
- osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have been wishing something like this existed and everyone knew to use it ;)
Now, make it mobile for viewing and entry, also give alerts when GPS has me near it and I will pay handsomely for this type of service. - rlbigfish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Sure, you risk lives when you speed in your car, but guess what? You risk lives just by driving a car! Driving, in general, isn't safe.
Also, chasing after a speeder who as of yet hasn't caused an accident...get this...GREATLY INCREASES THE RISK OF AN ACCIDENT!
So what's more dangerous? Letting one ***** do 95 in a 65, or chasing that guy at the same speed with 3 squad cars?- betacmag4u, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1You have a 1 in 3500 chance of being kill in a car accident this year. :) Do the world a favor and drive more especially if your a Republican.
- rlbigfish, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I don't see why I earned that snide little comment...and no, I think the whole left/right 2-party system is a sham.
- Spacejack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If there's one thing to learn from GTA, it's that strong police response can be very destructive. Fortunately they teach this also at police academies (not that the teachings are always followed, of course, but they do teach it).
- scott1andrews, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1back up now
- hanpil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0doesn't work.
- blackkbot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For a while I wanted to be a cop so I could sit by a river and fish all day and still slow people down (super troopers style). Since, you know how everyone slams on the brakes when they see a cop car and it doesn't matter if they are speeding or not.
- Spacejack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's especially amusing to see people do that when they see a cop who's already busy writing a ticket with his car parked at the side of the road and no one in it. OH NO THE RADAR WILL SEE ME WITH ITS ELECTRIC EYE!
- Sharky35, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2In Memphis... A cop will "pull over" an unmarked car. Ppl here just speed by cause "he's already got one"...
Tickets aplenty are issued on those days.
- surfff, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1www.duggmirror.com
- crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5http://www.duggmirror.com
(you have to type http:// or else it wont link it) - LGgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
DuggMirror
Sorry, a mirror of U.S. Speed Trap Exchange - Learn the location of speed traps in your area is not available.
- crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5http://www.duggmirror.com
- Teague, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Speeding is not categorically unsafe, and auto accidents that result in death very rarely result from speeding alone. You walk across the highway and get hit by a drunk driver at 75mph, you're going to die, and you're not going to die any less if you get smashed into at 55mph. Speeding has nothing to do with it, and the only time it DOES have anything to do with safety is when you need to stop suddenly and don't have time to, - which is not even a speed issue, but a following distance issue.
Car accidents result from unsafe driving in general, which is made up of bigger fractions of not paying attention, not anticipating the stupidity of others, intoxication or inadequate following distance, and only a very small fraction of actual *speed.* - JohnCub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Summersville, WV has signs proclaiming it the US's biggest speed trap. There is no doubt. I will never spend a dime there, even though I travel that route quite frequently.
- PRlME, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i always thought of doing some thing like this but with red light cameras also
- betacmag4u, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1If the gov was serious about stopping speeding/safety they would make the fine so high no average person would dare speed ex. say 5000 dollars first offense, but alas it is about collecting another tax and again it is disproportionate on the poor and middle class. How about your fine is based on net worth so that Bill Gates gets a ticket for ... 20 million?
- therealrico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There are countries is Europe that actually do fine based on income. I am not sure of the exact country but I know it is Scandanavian. I remember a couple of years back reading about some guy who ended up being fined over 100,000 dollars for speeding.
- HolyJaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Er, they want revenue, not overfilled jails due to overdue debts...
- war59312, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Site is dead and duggmirror never seems to help any as every time this happens it seems it never has a working mirror of the article. :(
- blastin311, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Being digg-bombed really sucks. People need better hosting plans.
- therealrico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Guys, speeding limits really came into place during the gas shortages of 1973. They did this cause the slower you drive the less gasoline you use. After the shortage towns and state governments realized what a good income stream it is they kept up the speed limits. The fact of the matter is speed limits were put in place not because of the safety of people, but because of our country trying to save gas. While I support speed limits in such places as school zones, back roads, and so forth, I feel the speed on US interestate highways is unjust and wrong.
Studies have shown that most people without a speed limit would drive 75 MPH, regardless of a speed limit.
My point is this, people who say it is the law, are ignorant of the fact that the speed limits for the most part were put in place for something completely unrelated to helping save human life, and kept in place for profit.- mousky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually, studies have shown that speed limits should be set at the 85 percentile. Whatever that speed is, it is the speed that the majority of drivers will drive at. It may be 75 mph or 50 mph.
- cheekdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1a couple of years ago there was a speed trap in oregon that was so bad that something like 20 or 25% or the town's revenue came just from that speed trap. the state made them change the speed limit, stop "trapping" people there, and give refunds out to people who'd paid tickets in that area.
- coreman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Coburg, OR, just north of I-5. Rather non-descript area, but there is a spot where the town's borders cross I-5, so they used to position a city cop in a not so visible area, and just write tickets all day long. IIRC, the chief was fired or something like that. OR99W through Amity, OR, also has a past history of being a speed trap as well. Not so bad now these days. The worst spot of stupid driving is through Dundee, OR. Speed limit is posted 35MPH through this damned small town, but people drive 20-25 MPH regardless. Oh well. And to think ODOT wants to route around this BS and toll BOTH the new road and the old road... Personally, I'd eminent-domain 50 feet on each side of the existing road through town and make it 5-lane all the way through. It will be cheaper in the long run, and we won't be driving on what will be in essense private roads in an otherwise public commons.
- coreman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Coburg, OR, just north of I-5. Rather non-descript area, but there is a spot where the town's borders cross I-5, so they used to position a city cop in a not so visible area, and just write tickets all day long. IIRC, the chief was fired or something like that. OR99W through Amity, OR, also has a past history of being a speed trap as well. Not so bad now these days. The worst spot of stupid driving is through Dundee, OR. Speed limit is posted 35MPH through this damned small town, but people drive 20-25 MPH regardless. Oh well. And to think ODOT wants to route around this BS and toll BOTH the new road and the old road... Personally, I'd eminent-domain 50 feet on each side of the existing road through town and make it 5-lane all the way through. It will be cheaper in the long run, and we won't be driving on what will be in essense private roads in an otherwise public commons.
- Lokix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1403 forbidden? :(
- flarn2006, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2My mom got pulled over by a cop in a speed trap! And she had to pay a fine for speeding.
- Werelock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What's really needed - txting to a cop spotted website. I don't know if it's possible to include the already generally accessible location info from a text message or not. If so, txt "COP" to 12345 and it will alert all those phones who have a) subscribed/used service before, and b) are within X miles of that spot. Txt "ACC" to indicate a mess on the road, etc. If the location info can't be extracted from txting in any way, then a custom mobile app that you leave running that serves the same purpose.
- Aque0us, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Great idea. Let's start sending text messages while we're speeding.
- superdoug, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1http://duggmirror.com/programming/U_S_Speed_Trap_Exchange_Learn_the_location_of_speed_traps_in_your_area/
- neuropsychguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Whatever you do, go the speed limit between Gainesville, FL and Jacksonville, FL. There are some nasty speed traps through the small towns in between.
- fillup07, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2True that. Starke, Lawtey, and Waldo. It's so bad that insurance companies have paid for billboards that say "Slow down, speed trap ahead"
- oakman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Very Irresponsible. Speeders kill too many people every year, including pedestrians.
- blackomegax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5you mean "bad drivers"
speeding doesn't kill. people kill. - TheDigger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@blackomegax:
*****, ignorant *****. I guess that you're also one of those people that say "guns don't kill, people kill"? - oakman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0During the energy crisis of the 70s, the speed limit was reduced to 55 MPH. Over the next several years thousands of lives were saved. I don't recall the exact figures, but that is what happened. After the speed limit was raised when Reagan was president, the death rate on the highway went right back up. The incontrovertible fact remains. "Speed Kills".
- TheDigger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1To all people digging oakman down: how many real-life accidents, with broken windshields, smashed car chassis and blood splattered all over the place have you actually seen? Ten years ago I've lost a really close friend who was hit by a drunk speeder on a pedestrian crossing... she died on spot. The bastard went hit-and-run, but they eventually caught him.
My point is - get a grip. Life isn't NOFS Carbon.
- blackomegax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5you mean "bad drivers"
- digitarius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Meh.
I agree with those griping about implementation. If this were a Google Maps mashup it'd be useful.
Unfortunately, looking at the stuff in my area, it's the kind of thing that locally, everyone knows already. So it would only be useful, to me, if it were put on a map so that I could check out places I'll be going. - Sharky35, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Fellow diggers...
You're missing a huge point.
Did you know that many departments have their monitoring equipment "donated" by the insurance industry.
Now why would Allstate or Statefarm want want your PD to write you that ticket?
Higher insurance rates of course. - dpkp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1very old idea:
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