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Big Brother data snooping will 'ruin British way of life'

dailymail.co.uk — Plans for a massive database snooping on the entire population were condemned yesterday as a ‘step too far for the British way of life’. In an Orwellian move, the Home Office is proposing to detail every phone call, e-mail, text message, internet search and online purchase in the fight against terrorism and other serious crime.

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  • akpwnz, on 07/16/2008, -10/+21Won't be long now. Damn you Patriot Act.
    • robbiemuffin, on 07/16/2008, -4/+21wrong continent :)
    • TheLittleWitch, on 07/16/2008, -1/+12I understood it that way that akpwnz meant that because of the Patriot Act it will be now easier to bring all of that to Europe. "No country left behind."
    • theodenking, on 07/17/2008, -2/+7You'll notice that the comment sections of stories about American politics aren't full of confused Europeans who've just realised that other nationalities use the internet, kindly try to return the favour.
    • wellyuk, on 07/17/2008, -0/+4For those who don't understand, I understood it that he/she expects similar proposals to be implemented in the US and A, due to the Patriot Act, as opposed to claiming the Patriot Act has anything to do with the UK.

      akpwnz, correct me if I was wrong.
    • reaperhatch, on 07/17/2008, -2/+1freedom, life and happiness.

      /America


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WkH1vU9XZs
    • Latentk, on 07/17/2008, -4/+3Excuse me, correct me if I am wrong. But Brittish folks lost most of their privacy a long time before the Patriot Act ever came along. That and the US Government does not use that power for any crime other then that of Terrorism.
      • wellyuk, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1It's "British". One T. Like it says in the headline.
  • Syphon220, on 07/16/2008, -5/+38big brothers *****, never watch it!
    • Mast3rDigg3r, on 07/17/2008, -10/+4yeah and the joker dies!!!
    • dbhalla, on 07/17/2008, -1/+5hahahahahahahahaha.
      vin diesel crashes in to the train.
  • MelvinSchlubman, on 07/16/2008, -3/+34We've always been at war with Eurasia.
    • Sendai129, on 07/17/2008, -0/+4The Party just said that we've never been at war with Eurasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia. The thought police will be at your door soon now...
  • burchie2, on 07/17/2008, -2/+13they already videotape almost everything that goes on.
    • infinitus64, on 07/17/2008, -4/+6CCTV is not exactly videotaping, the cameras are not detailed enough to frighten me yet.
    • Skooma714, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2So let's not stop it now
  • m4csrgh3yk3v, on 07/17/2008, -4/+7And these are the types of threats they now impose on the public:

    http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1914/zomgtvbbli ...
  • JeremyGrieves, on 07/17/2008, -3/+40You are more likely to die due to a bee sting then a terrorist act.
  • dning88, on 07/17/2008, -0/+9Does anyone have that much storage? I mean, Google only holds static HTML and look at the data centers that it builds. The government needs to store EVERYTHING?
  • DeathJux, on 07/17/2008, -0/+26Mr. BabyMan + DailyMail + topic I care about = ??? WHAT DO I DO???
    • leexy, on 07/17/2008, -2/+5I suppose posting something less sensationalist would be a lot more beneficial. This Daily Mail sky-is-falling crap is the worst thing that could happen to conservatism.
  • Killwize, on 07/17/2008, -1/+10Nationalism is evil.
  • harbonah, on 07/17/2008, -2/+10Orwell would be proud!
    • spin164, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1I think he would be more disappointed that it actually has happened.
    • Amazetbm, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1Actually, he would be terrified.
  • Jack8274, on 07/17/2008, -3/+23War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
    • wellyuk, on 07/17/2008, -1/+9Cheese is Tasty
      Mushrooms are Evil
      What is This
  • whiteknives, on 07/17/2008, -1/+10The UK is about a decade ahead of the US when it comes to this sort of stuff. I guess I'll be packing my bags in a few years.
  • Travelsonic, on 07/17/2008, -1/+7obligatory ***** BIG BROTHER!
  • Mikhail101, on 07/17/2008, -0/+34No thanks I rather take the terrorist attack than be watched 24/7
  • notruth, on 07/17/2008, -0/+15The threat of terrorism is the perfect excuse for those in power to obtain more power. A government's freedom is inversely proportional to the freedom of its people. They gain power and freedom, we lose it. Lack of freedom = Enslavement, and this is simply another step towards that. Do you think the governments of the world are separate entities? Hah! When it goes down, they'll provide our every need, keep us fat and content with mass media entertainment, but we will forget what freedom and privacy mean. The mass illusion is evolving and will continue to evolve, and we will not. Options are limited. It's time to make choices and take action.
    • PopcornDave, on 07/17/2008, -2/+4And now you see why the Democrats have been so goddamn complicit in the rape of the constitution. They knew they wouldn't be out of power forever and have just been licking their chops at the chance of a huge power grab over the American people.

      Why couldn't the 9/11 terrorists have aimed for Congress?
      /sarcasm
  • ajb2015, on 07/17/2008, -0/+7*siiiiiiiiiiiiiigh* wtf. beyond outraged, just stop becoming more evil, world.
  • JKAL, on 07/17/2008, -2/+14Mr BabyMan can you please stop spamming us with this dailymail sensationalism, please... thanks.
  • parkermauney, on 07/17/2008, -5/+1Im so ***** up right now
  • powatom, on 07/17/2008, -2/+11Daily Fail = unread article.

    Britain is going to *****, yes - but it's the kind of people who write for the Daily Mail who've sent us down this road with their paranoia and sensationalism.

    Scouse Separatists forever.
  • Hetman, on 07/17/2008, -2/+10America should just look to the U.K. This is your future if you allow the government to pass bills like the patriot act and FISA.
    • PopcornDave, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3But nobody here will care until they get served warm beer.
  • foolfoolz, on 07/17/2008, -4/+3WAR IS PEACE
  • funkyjunk3, on 07/17/2008, -0/+13Thank you George Orwell, you gave humanity a great example of what _not_ to do and the various consequences that come along with it. Without our distopian books, we would blindly be well on our way to lots of similar kafka-esque laws.
  • gothicform, on 07/17/2008, -2/+7"I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat. There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense.Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I destroyed the Old Bailey, to remind this country of what it has forgotten. More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot. "
    • jgtg32a, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2Sorry that movie was bad read the graphic novel.
  • unknwn, on 07/17/2008, -3/+13While America isn't this bad, we're certainly on the same track.

    What ever happened to being PROUD to be an American!? Freedom comes at a price! 9/11 is the cost of being an American. All this B.S. with more airport security, the war, NONE of that should have happened.

    Wake up, the terrorists ARE WINNING Mr. Bush! They're making America miserable to live in as our leaders sacrifice our rights for "security."

    Having my rights is worth a 9/11 happening every 20-30 years. And if you don't believe me, put me up in one of those damn towers because I will gladly die knowing that others are going to wastefully expend their lives running a jet into a building to make a failed attempt to destroy our freedom. I want to live and die in the land of the free.
    • CRCulver, on 07/17/2008, -8/+1That's extremely stupid. It is better to live in slavery than die in freedom. If you are dead, you don't feel anything. Just because some 18th century wackos in a certain British colony said differently doesn't make it so.
      • notoneofus, on 07/17/2008, -0/+6"It is better to live in slavery than die in freedom."

        I'm sad that anyone feels this way.
    • wellyuk, on 07/17/2008, -1/+7"running a jet into a building to make a failed attempt to destroy our freedom"

      Contrary to what you might have been told otherwise, the terrorists don't hate your freedom or don't want to destroy your freedom. They simply wanted revenge. You need to listen less to the propaganda that your government is feeding you.
      • PopcornDave, on 07/17/2008, -0/+4Just a matter of two different groups wanting to rule the world. Nothing new.
      • locojones, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2The extremist Muslim factions don't want to rule the world, they just don't want the continued interference of the West in their daily lives.
    • appleseed1234, on 07/17/2008, -0/+5To be frank, Mr. Bush knows full well what he is doing and does not care in the slightest. Businessman to the end.
  • Ne007, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2In other words: "***** YOU" from America!
  • IronPwnage, on 07/17/2008, -0/+4lol Daily Mail.
  • DDMX, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2One Nation Under Big Brother
  • umbrellainabin, on 07/17/2008, -3/+17***** THE RIAA
    ***** THE MPAA
    ***** THE IFPI
    ***** THE BFI
    ***** VIACOM
    ***** COMCAST
    ***** MEDIADEFENDER
    ***** AT&T
    ***** THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT *new addition*
    • tehknotte, on 07/17/2008, -6/+2or maybe you could just pay for entertainment and support the artists and not do terrorism or anything against the law?
      • Travelsonic, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2Assuming without any basis... how intelligent. *rolls eyes*
  • hucklebug42, on 07/17/2008, -3/+2Keep tabs on your citizens. But lets just let anybody in. You know, stab the fat guy on the bicycle.
  • Skull0Inc, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1it would really suck to have a job of listening into other peoples conversations all day long....i wonder what kind of technology is implored to do this task.
  • spin164, on 07/17/2008, -0/+10We rid more than 300 million people of their rights because of 100 people on the other part of the world hiding in caves.

    (basic quote for getting rid of the USA 4th amendment)
  • Systembomber, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1Remember remember, the 5th of november....
  • SLEZ, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2In a way you got to give the British Government some brownie points for being honest to their citizens about the database.
  • earthforce1, on 07/17/2008, -1/+3Somebody please remind me who won the cold war again?
    Britain (and the US) is starting to look an awful lot like East Germany.
  • foofightrs777, on 07/17/2008, -1/+5I always though we'd end up in more of a Huxleyian dsytopia (apparently I'm a pessimist) but lately it seems more and more likely that it's going to be a bizarre Huxleyian-Orwellian dystopian future. Someone forgot to tell the government that those books were not instruction manuals.
  • Skooma714, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3I love how people are all on about muslims and darkies ruining Britain but it's the government and media that populated by the typical anglo-saxon person that is ruining it.
  • nc60659, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1Big Brother will ruin life
  • Ubermann, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1The terrorists have won.
  • locojones, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2We should attach electrodes to George Orwell's body and tap the limitless energy from his corpse rolling in the grave. It's a shame that, sooner than later, 1984 will have to be moved to the Non-Fiction section. I'm confident that he wrote it as a warning and not as a manual for the oppression of the masses.

    If we're to believe the rhetoric that mass, unparticularized, dragnet surveillance of the population will stop "terrorism," then why stop there? The logic would hold that if you deployed the authorities onto the streets, interrogated citizens going about their daily business as to their citizenship, their purposes, their relatives, etc. and always checked their papers to make sure they were who they say they are, that it would be even more of a deterrent toward extremist acts. Throw up roadblocks at all intersections, search vehicles, have random home inspections, allow all mail to be read by the government before delivery, why limit it to checking e-mails and internet traffic?

    The fact that they are not doing this highlights the huge charade created by fear-mongering over the boogey-man just to extend their own powers. It's sickening, in whatever country it occurs in.
  • Anunnakki, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2Honestly, how many times are they going to use the ridiculous pretext that they're doing it to "stop terrorism"? At this point, do they honestly think they're fooling anybody?

    "We're doing it to stop Terrorism! It's for your own good!" What terrorism? Who are YOU to decide for ME which values--like privacy--are worth sacrificing? It's a sad state of affairs when I fear my government and its actions more than I do real terrorist and criminal activity.
  • ohreilly, on 07/17/2008, -0/+0Labour are certainly trying as hard as possible to get that landslide Conservative defeat in 2009/10.

    I don't understand why the Mail is reporting on it only now, I recall reading about this a few months back.

    But as I've said before, until a bill that actually includes this is passed by the Commons and Lords (I can see the Lords rejecting this if it had the database bit included, so it'll be a few years of delay until it gets forced through) I am not too worried.

    I really don't understand why people keep digging Mail stories.
  • Ursad, on 07/18/2008, -1/+1At the end of the day i have done nothing wrong, errmm well copyright? apart from that i have nothing to worry about ^^ Spy on me all you like.

    Dose every one have some thing to hide? Most people act like it!
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