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  • ilkeryoldas, on 10/11/2007, -11/+162At least it's not as bad as BSOD
    • cepher, on 10/11/2007, -4/+39Which I've seen much more prevalent than this in many airports. I tend to find this one a bit funnier because BSOD has nothing to do with security and everything to do with poor upkeep/windows/hardware. This is purely negligence.
      • wildfire, on 10/11/2007, -18/+4Assumptions.
      • zybch, on 10/11/2007, -22/+7You just watch, there will be the usual anti-MS trolls turning up soon skyting about how secure OSX/Linux/etc is when this partucular situation is down plain and simple to stupid admins!!
      • 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -11/+7What is a windows security alert worth?

        There are MANY ways to secure a computer that microsoft hasnt thought of.
        • Netrilix, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10Since we can't think of all of the holes to plug, let's leave them all open. Great idea.

          /obligatory sarcasm tag
        • 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10That machine is probably more secure than 99% of the people reading this could ever know how to lock down a machine. Is it impossible to imagine the admin forgot to disable annoying windows security center after applying restrictive policies, configuring authenticated access, disabling unnecessary services etc? WSC will throw a warning despite the fact that there are many hand applied security precautions that offer protection light years beyond what out of the box solutions such as Mcafee or Zone Alarm could
          • donnyburnside, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Umm, you disable Windows Security Center via the Services... So you kinda listed the same thing twice there.
        • madpie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10@80hd: Protecting against 99% of people isn't much good if that 1% who can exploit a vulnerability are the ones who actually give a damn about hacking a system.

          • Jonjonr6, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I work for a major airline int he IT department. The computers referenced in the picture are not allowed to do anything but their specific jobs. No email, no internet, no logging in (kiosk mode probably), Antivirus would only cause problems, as well as a local firewall. Also, the network is highly secure, and behind several layers of security. Chances of exploiting that computer extremely slim.
        • 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I get it now.

          A computer that doesn't alert you to security threats is invulnerable.

          No. Better. INVINCIBLE!
      • reptiler, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I've once seen a nice BSOD on London Heathrow, and also some scattered around ATMs and ticket-machines around Germany (though the ticket-machine had the Amiga-hand with the floppy-disk ;-) ). Interestingly this BSOD was either still there or back again when I came through Heathrow again 3 weeks later. And yes, it was exactly the same screen.
    • bs0l, on 10/11/2007, -4/+83BSOD = If they can't access it, no one can.
      Microsoft Security Alert = "Hackers Come Here" sign.
    • gavintlgold, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Like this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/puttabutta/sets/72157594297903220/
      • supermansuper, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2What the hell were they thinking? They should have used Safari or Firefox! The sites would have worked fine

    • Doghound, on 10/11/2007, -4/+21This isn't airport security... it's simply the departure or arrival screen. I don't entirely see what the big deal is with this...
      • latova, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22The next flight is arriving at buffer overflow.
    • yobboninja, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4http://www.someandrew.com/?p=156
      This is not as good, but still funny.
    • stoikiometry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3BSOD's are fun. http://databsod.ytmnd.com/
    • PRlME, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8MS firewall off might be better then it on -=/
    • TheCaptainJS, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Not really a big deal. Windows firewall is kinda pointless. They are undoubtedly behind real firewalls. (Hardware Firewalls). All windows firewall does is hinder use within the network.
    • gmillerd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Imagine how much they paid a firm to fix that problem.
    • StealthGod, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Snapped this BSOD about a month ago in Frankfurt:
      http://jwheeler.smugmug.com/photos/166522968-M.jpg
  • IShouldBeWorkin, on 10/11/2007, -9/+296on the positive sign, all the flights are running ontime...more than i can say for XP security fixes
    • Akaji, on 10/11/2007, -2/+27I don't understand... why should Microsoft fix its unintended features? They're working better than ever!
    • mdaize, on 10/11/2007, -15/+2Not flight, train stop.... Go transit station in Toronto, Ontario, Canada
      • ubpsanity, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10No, look closer, unless the GO has a train to Los Angeles, San Francisco, Salt Lake City on it's route.
  • wildfire, on 10/11/2007, -11/+96Nothing really shocking -- I've encountered numerous enterprise-level firewall and anti-virus solutions -- with client-side agents as well -- that don't register with the Windows Security Center. So, you can make assumptions all you want.
    • zybch, on 10/11/2007, -2/+35But you can still turn off the notifications.
      • wildfire, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Trivial either way if the security is there.
        • IRoaChI, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3But you would think they would take the system alerts out using a GPO.
          Thats what I have done
        • 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4yeah, security center is a pretty clueless app in a lot of cases.
    • rookkoss, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2nit.
    • slogan, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2AVG and ClamWin which I use do the same thing. I do not care enough to turn off those notifications. It is easier just to close the dialog.
  • Alegoo92, on 10/11/2007, -7/+101What's really surprising are the flights.. they're all on time!!!
    • ubpsanity, on 10/11/2007, -12/+1Obviously none of them are FlyGlobespan flights..
    • dorkino, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11The flights aren't actually on-time. A virus changed the display to read that.
  • PricklySponge, on 10/11/2007, -25/+5Dugg for awesomeness
  • jayselle, on 10/11/2007, -12/+125Assuming they are running a dedicated firewall it's really a non-issue. It's not like this computer is hooked up directly to a cable modem like you have at home. I imagine they have a firewall and IDS much better than anything windows has to offer.

    Anti-virus programs just eat up resources too. A server probably doesn't really need anti-virus protection. It's more for dumb users.
    • rudy23, on 10/11/2007, -23/+5Any windows machine needs AV and firewall no matter what gazzillion dollar device your run at your perimeter.
      • Aythun, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13Who needs two firewalls?
      • cbartlett, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9Individual host based firewalls are always a good idea! All it takes is some idiot with a worm on his laptop that plugs in behind the perimeter firewall and your network is toast.

        Or, there's OS/Linux.
      • 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Nah as long you don't download Wares, porn, browse myspace or open email attachments AV software is a burden with no benefit.
    • FatherG, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13Why is jay being dugg down? Granted the part about AV is a bit... niave, but he's right about the firewall. Linksys routers (for example) don't register as a firewall in the security center. AV isn't that big a problem either if the airport is running a closed system. Internal networks aside, there's no reason for an air-traffic control computer to be connected to the internet.
      • Drull, on 10/11/2007, -5/+16It's probably not even connected to the internet anyway.
    • Doghound, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Not to mention this is probably on a closed network considering it's nothing more than the arrival and departure screen...
    • Blurple, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1How do we even know that the network operates on the internet. Like he/she said it could be a intranet or closed network.. however this still leads the ability for someone inside the network to compromise the data. Firewall, no worries, Virii yes
  • haooken, on 10/11/2007, -6/+86If it doesn't have a connection to the outside internet, then there's no problem.
    • cepher, on 10/11/2007, -16/+7Because hackers have no way to hook in to the local intranet.
      • Namco, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20It's called physical security. A locked door, security cameras, guards. Unless you're Sam Fisher, I don't think you're going to be able to stick your thumb drive into one of these computers. Besdies, who's to say that the computer's not running an anti-virus that Windows doesn't recognize or isn't logged in as a restricted account?
    • wildfire, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2I would rather be safer than sorry and use security products even for closed internal networks. For example, some ***** infects one of the internal computers with removal media.

      Firewalls, anti-virus, and removal media endpoint security could prevent a possible network meltdown.
      • vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -1/+6Why? I'm guessing the people who operate the board use a simple interface. The only people who actually have access to the server root are the sysadmins.
        • wildfire, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Because they might be linked to other internal networks without internet access for maintenance reasons and such. I've seen plenty of closed internal networks get infected with ***** -- Anyone remember the Apple iPod factory?
      • 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3great idea. Mcafee would do much better than a reduced privilege restricted user account and cost less too
  • seasplitter, on 10/11/2007, -11/+0looks like the Atlanta Herzfield Airport uh oh thats the busiest airport in the United States!
    • hmunkey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You spelled it wrong. Atlanta HARTSFIELD Airport. Good job buddy.
  • Akintunde, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10If you look reeeaaallly hard, there's a hidden message...
    • Alucard90, on 10/11/2007, -6/+16Look its the Virgin Mary!

      Sorry, I had to.
    • wawilli, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Is the secret message not to trust window security?
  • LR2_, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17btw, does anyone know how to turn those messages off. If I turn the firewall off, I did it on purpose... I don't want windows reminding me all the time.
    • kousi, on 10/11/2007, -4/+27Start -> Run -> services.msc -> Security Center -> Startup Type = Disabled
      That's what I do, damned security center telling me how to take care of my computer...
    • howtogeek, on 10/11/2007, -1/+32Open security center, click the link "change the way security center alerts me"
      • hrvat420, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4thanks....damn vista
        • vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -1/+12While Vista is annoying, the image for this story is running XP.
    • 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1I'd like to know which DLL i can replace with a dummy so that no balloon will never work again.

      After a while you know what they are going to try and tell you before they pop up.
      • xile, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You can disable "balloon tips" with TweakUI (under the Taskbar and Start menu section). Not sure if this would solve the problem or not.
  • slapded, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4if they use zone alarm u still get that message. still funny
    • zybch, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11ZA is utter garbage now. Used to be great, and its just the normal collection of bloatware/crashware just like norton and McAfee.
  • OGTL, on 10/11/2007, -18/+3Lame.
  • Computer_Kid, on 10/11/2007, -18/+54I am surprised they don't use Linux or develop their own OS for something as important as tracking flights.
    • rudy23, on 10/11/2007, -1/+40obviously they do. this is just the front end for the data.
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Theres tracking flight schedules, theres tracking delays, and then there's tracking aircraft with transponder and radar.
      Each uses a different system.

      Air Traffic Control is the one with the redundant systems.
    • adolfojp, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16Yeeeah... develop their own OS... what are you smoking?
      • Doghound, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1It's called sarcasm, buddy ;)
      • nationalist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6some corporations do develop their own OSes, but it's usually based on an already developed shell and has no GUI frontend
      • mikexcore, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2chronic... what about you?
    • mitrovarr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I'm surprised they didn't use one of the commercial real-time operating systems designed just for this kind of task. There's just no reason to have to put up with the complexity, security concern, expense, and hardware requirements of a desktop operating system for something like this.
      • tryx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What's the point of putting up with the complexity of setting up a realtime OS on something that is just pulling data from a database every so often?
    • ours, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2They are just showing flight schedules to people. We rely on it to see how long our flight is delayed and on which door it will arrive but it's not super critical. They could switch to Ubuntu and spare themselves the gags.
  • ufia, on 10/11/2007, -4/+26Our computer might be at risk? What a mean message to display at the airport. This is like telling us we forgot to turn off the oven right before we're boarding the plane.
  • mdaize, on 10/11/2007, -14/+8That is not an airport sign...
    That is the schedule for the GoTransit system at Union Station in Toronto, Ontario, Canada!
    • coolfactor, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2It's an airport sign. Are you saying GoTransit's site looks similar and recently had a similar problem? Come on Toronto.. go Linux!
    • ubpsanity, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7See my comment above. That is not a Go Station, there are stops in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Salt Lake City.. Well I think it's Salt lake City, just a guess. And again a guess at the others too..

      Hmm, I notice it was you above as well.
    • Bamborzled, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6From the Flickr page:
      "I saw this in an airport a couple weeks ago"

      Why would he/she lie?
      • tnoy, on 10/11/2007, -7/+3They found the picture on the internet somehwere and put it on their flickr site not knowing where it really came from so that they could get increased traffic to their site. This could be one reason. What is surprizing about someony lieing? You seem to still have faith in humanity.
    • kutza, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Yeah, he said it's the airport in Palm Springs, CA...
  • neonrehan, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2Can't digg unless there are more photos...which I am surprised that there aren't.
    • vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -1/+16Do you really want to see the same error message from a different angle?
    • Sep11insidejob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I want to see the whole screen
  • cbartlett, on 10/11/2007, -5/+29Reminds me a few months ago at RailsConf when the one presenter was using a Windows laptop. It automatically installed Windows Updates and then proceeded to bleep at him every 90 seconds or so throughout the presentation reminding him to reboot.

    The Mac-slanted crowd got a huge kick out of it.
  • SomeImagination, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16It's probably on a secure network with a hardware firewall...
  • Benrussell, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11Terrorists are going to hack the information screens.

    How will people feel when they queue up to greet loved ones ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIRPORT!?!??!
  • zaybertamer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16Definitely not something I would want to see. At least it wasn't a WGA popup
  • Murphzerz, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Hah hah hah hah... I'm scared.
  • MaXPL, on 10/11/2007, -20/+2yeh nice photoshop. not funny.
  • blinkgreen, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1buried as too creepy
  • atrus123, on 10/11/2007, -16/+18Something that important should NOT be run on Windows.
    • Qumahlin, on 10/11/2007, -6/+18Comments like this always make me laugh. People who make statements have never been exposed to a well run Windows Enterprise environment and have no idea what they are talking about. A network is run by PEOPLE. If you track most of the windows exploits that hit companies they are exploits that were patched MONTHS beforehand, but the companies don't keep anything up to date.

      I've worked in pure Linux shops, i've worked in mixed environments, and i've worked in pure windows environments. Guess what if you have retards fresh out of school running your network its reliability is going to be ***** regardless of the OS your running.
    • 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6I see two things here.

      That machine is probably more secure than 99% of the people reading this could ever know how to lock down a machine. Is it impossible to imagine the admin forgot to disable annoying windows security center after applying restrictive policies, configuring authenticated access, disabling unnecessary services etc? WSC will throw a warning despite the fact that there are many hand applied security precautions that offer protection light years beyond what out of the box solutions such as Mcafee or Zone Alarm can.

      The other thing is, why be concerned about a information kiosk throwing a security advisory? This machine is slightly more critical than a electronic roadside information sign. The worst you could do is post bogus info or take down that computer.
  • ender78, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13Airport Flight Info displays are often Windows PCs [small form factor cases behind a plasma or LCD screen]. I don't expect these machines to run a firewall, they're likely to be on a closed network with no Internet access. Why the hell would you stick anti-virus software on machines that never have users log onto them.
  • brianez21, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Here is Number 2: http://digg.com/software/Airport_Security_No_2_Pic
  • Qumahlin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5This really doesn't mean anything as there are MANY corporate AV/Firewall solutions that do not interconnect with Windows XP SP2 so windows assumes since your not using an interconnecting product and you don't have the default MS junk turned on that your computer is actually out in the open. It also has no way of knowing if your using a hardware firewall.
  • kestrel127, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Is the point that the computer is running windows that makes a computer displaying schedules unsafe, or that the firewall is disabled?

    I'm trying to understand what the real impact is of a particular computer running windows displaying departure/arrival times has anything to do with homeland/transportation security... and like a previous user stated, windows firewall is not the only firewall in the world.
  • Speed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What's to say these systems do anything remotely important other than informing people about their flights. I'd imagine that the actual air traffic control stuff runs on a different system.
  • waynesim, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1Ok...looks like we're not flying anymore......

    http://hubpages.com/hub/homeowner-loan-uk
    http://hubpages.com/hub/learn-spanish-language
  • sphark, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13If you think this PC is actually TRACKING flights and not just updated with time/status manually or receiving a feed from another system.... turn off your computer now.
  • nzezelj89, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Quick, hack into the mainframe and reroute ALL flights, it'll be easy to bypass, no firewall ftw, lol
    • yndy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1err... yeah, because just because the monitor is running windows, it's a safe bet that the routing system is - oh wait, no, that's still run on TPF... shucks... too bad gates never did figure out how to corner the mainframe market
  • PiMPSP, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1217/755509753_3c2077aa80.jpg?v=0

    direct link, no flickr bs
  • spongewardk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Who knew that airport computers run off a single computer connected to a network. Just imagine, you shut the entire system down and everyone can see you playing Pong or something.
  • catalysis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I would have been more surprised if they were running the cheap, consumer-level firewall that windows usually recognizes.
  • RajMahal77, on 10/11/2007, -6/+0Talk about Microsoft vs. Apple :D
  • veeracs, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2ha.. this is photoshopped...
  • supermanred, on 10/11/2007, -4/+390% of the white house is OS X. Maybe airports should consider linux or os x as their os of choice for kiosks that are providing important data to passengers.
    • MikeWanDo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Source?
    • matt.rubin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1***** the entire political world runs off of PCs becasue they need to be compatable with the rest of the world. This might be true if Al Gore was in office. But he ain't.
  • JasonCox, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Thats just too funny, and thats coming from the guy with the Windows avatar.
  • sub4him, on 10/11/2007, -5/+0If the airports can't even keep their security software turned on and or updated how the hell are they going to keep some crazy from high jacking planes...oh, wait...they have already proved they can't.
    • thesarlacc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1explain the relevance? does your ability to secure your home pc affect the chances of your house being robbed? sounds like a 10 year old comment to me...
  • Sabretou, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Airports need to switch to Ubuntu. It's safer.
    • thesarlacc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0care to port all of their legacy software to Linux?
  • Homoomo, on 10/11/2007, -6/+0If windows xp was a dog i would shoot it in the head
  • MiDri, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6If you want to be really scared, I worked for United Airlines tech support (the guys that fix united employee's machines) They have full access (root) to all the databases and what not for United Airlines, the boys that do American sat next to us. The people working there don't even work for the airlines, we are contracted by contractors -- thats right, we were TEMPS scary ***** right? I left with way more knowledge then I care to have rolling around in this head.
    • SoundScape, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Lies.
    • yndy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Wow... too bad you're dead wrong on that - United's databases are run off the Galileo/Apollo system - and to have "root" access to the mainframe you have to have at least 3rd level clearance and that means working out at Galileo - not temping anywhere. Oh, and if you did have that much "knowledge" in your head about the system? You'd know that every single keystroke is logged and kept in perpetuity... so it's not like they can't track down who makes a change.

      But it must be nice to try and be a fear-monger.
      • Beaches, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13rd level clearance, but dont get excited, thats out of 20.

        10 points for anyone who picks up on the quote... whats it from?
  • EmmEff, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4The IT people behind that should be fired. If they cannot setup Windows XP properly, they are clearly incompetent.

    Save the anti-Windows sentiment, this is incomptence plain and simple.
  • bradleyland, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3This is the computer equivalent of a "KICK ME" sign on its back.
  • blcarmadillo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Here is my experience with the departure/arrival monitors. Saw this at an airport on my way home from Florida a year or two ago. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c190/blcArmadillo/HPIM0784.jpg
  • spacebar14, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Why the hell is everyone making such a big deal about this? It probably has a hardware firewall...
  • ssavoy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Your Computer Might be at risk:
    No firewall is turned on
    You might not have anti virus software installed.
    You are using Windows to manage the schedules of hundreds of airplanes at a major airport.
    • SaxxonPike, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1No. They are using Windows to DISPLAY the schedules of hundreds of airplanes at a major airport. What are they using to schedule them? Hell if I know. Could even be an IBM server setup that doesn't use Windows, Linux OR Osx. Doesn't hurt to be a little more open minded once in a while.
  • thesarlacc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0What makes people assume this computer system even has an Internet connection? Airports would not be stupid enough to provide Internet access to the systems that DONT NEED IT.
  • kingygk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1That is funny as hell! Now we can be mad at Microsoft when we all get stuck in the airport for our next delay! :)
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