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Digg Accepts HD-DVD Sponsorship Dollars
texyt.com — Recently Digg has gone on a censorship run, banning users and deleting stories that reference the recently released HD-DVD decryption code. For those of you wondering why Digg is going to such lengths to silence it's own community, this might explain things.
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- dep01, on 10/12/2007, -2/+80May 1st: The Day Digg Died
- loconet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22wow, if true, truly ***** pathetic and sad. Digg management just gave the finger to a huge chunk of their user base.
- oskite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37May 1st: The Day I Switched to Reddit and Slashdot
They didn't censor.
Only slightly related, I love the fact that I'm listening to Rage right now as this unfolds. Fight the power! - killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1485 diggs and no front page? hmmmm
- salmonmoose, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"Only slightly related, I love the fact that I'm listening to Rage right now as this unfolds. Fight the power!"
Speaking of sellouts :) - loconet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This is pretty disturbing, the hell has this not made popular yet? There are stories with less than 70 diggs on the front page right now.
- killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+890 diggs in 1.5 hours... that's pretty fast
still no front page - rebotfc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Digg in the pockets of big business.
- xXShadowstormXx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Aaaaccchhhhhhhoo 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 hooooooo!
- killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5ok wtf 221 diggs
i would love to see this get to 1000+ and not be front paged - michaelb1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Mission Accomplished!"
- rebopper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Farewell Digg.
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- loconet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37Where is the cancel account feature?
- g3buz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32post the key in any comment or digg, digg will take care of the rest for you
- furyg3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29I'd like to point out that this story doesn't mention the hex code, so any deletion by digg admins has no basis on whether or not their afraid of litigation.
It would just be them censoring bad press.
::sits back and waits::- bobpaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5None of the deletions did. Especially not the account deletions. Nothing justified that.
- todofree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3well is another site where this things not happen, http://meneame.net is in spanish but they put the number high http://meneame.net/story/como-fui-baneado-de-digg
- allholy1, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2ugh... let the complaining begin. Kevin lives in America and it's his ass on the line.... relax people you don't need to freak out about something so petty.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"Digg, generally seen as the world's most popular social networking site,"
Are you kidding? Sorry, I can't possibly digg this story when it contains such ridiculous inaccuracies. - azra3l, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4digg is dead, all hail diggcorp
- topherfitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11This is a sad day. I have been a member ever since Kevin talked about his "pet project" site on the Screen Savers one night. I was one of the first couple thousand people to join the site. I'm almost at a point that I'm thinking about canceling my account. I will wait to see what Kevin has to say about all this on the next DiggNation.
- XFocus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I hate to comment on my own submission, but yea, what gives? 160 diggs in 2 hrs 28 minutes. That's more than 1 digg a minute. Seems pretty popular to me, but I can't even find it in the upcoming stories section. Anyone know how stories make it to the "popular" section or is this just another case of Digg censoring things?
- killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3this is them hitting the "admin bury w/ one click button"
- tommydr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"one click"? Wasn't that patented?
- bobpaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I'm up for everyone making this their "My #1" story. It may never hit the front page, but there's also the profile view friends network...
- Cmonkey67, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I joined Digg.com not more then a couple of days ago and really enjoyed the site and the community...this is all an utter disappointment to me. I'm contemplating posting the damn numbers and going down with the rest of you.
- loker269, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5here I will...09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0
- patricksweeney, on 08/19/2008, -7/+2grow up guys! im sorry, im with you guys on the fact the MPAA, RIAA, etc have all gone nuts, but pissed cuz Digg is covering their asses? some of you really need to grow up and get lives then. for god sakes, it will probably be coming in cereal boxes tomorrow.
Grow up. - mikeyrock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3ha 290 and no front page
- greenamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They disabled the ability for any story to hit the front page, along with submitting new stories.
- Minkoff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Spreading the key is a good thing, but it's ridiculous of you to think that Digg shouldn't delete these posts. For them, it's either "censor" or get sued and possibly go out of business. At this point, the key is so widespread that leaving it around on Digg is no longer anything more than a statement. I don't get it. The actual work is done, so what's the big deal with the Digg guys covering their asses?
- stable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Slashdot has had its issues in the past and survived without deleting a single comment, let alone whole threads. Digg can't simply be responsible for user-submitted comments unless notified by the copyright holders. Considering that I've seen and dugg dozens of stories today with the key and most of them got deleted before even making it to the front page I can assure you that there are ulterior motives to delete these stories. So let the people speak, let them express how disappointed they feel about all this, because after all this is something serious, and the real point right now is not the spreading of the key but the defense of your (American) freedom of speech and fair use rights that can well set a dangerous precedent.
- Minkoff, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1On the Digg blog, they said they had been notified by the copyright holder. And while I believe in my right to free speech, this is a privately-owned site, and I don't expect Digg to fight my battles for me. You have the right idea, but come on. This reaction is ridiculous and reeks of groupthink.
- bobpaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's one thing to back down when threatened with liability for illegal content posted.
It's another thing to back down when threatened with liability for something that is almost assuredly not illegal.
Finally, it's something else entirely to run a website dependent on user driven content, and then delete the accounts of users without warning because they submitted something that may or may not be illegal.
If it was a DMCA notice, digg should remove the content and notify the poster. That poster should then have a chance to counter-claim at which point digg can repost without risk of legal liability and the content owner now has to sue the poster. This is how the DMCA works.
However, they probably didn't get a DMCA notice because you can't copyright a number. Nor does it break the do not circumvent clause because the key doesn't circumvent anything; you need a program to use the key and that ACT would be circumventing. So the DMCA most assuredly doesn't apply, and that's why Digg didn't follow that procedure.
So what is it then? Can't be a patent; can't patent numbers either. Trade secret, maybe? I have no idea how the rules for that game work, but I've a pretty good guess that since nobody here signed an NDA to keep that a secret, none of us have done anything wrong. The same goes for Digg which I think gets some press immunity because of these. I mean seriously, haven't we seen hundreds of leaked trade secrets from Apple, Microsoft, game developers, and others? That's never been pulled.
Now, the big difference between Digg and slashdot is that Digg is automated and slashdot requires an editor to approve a story before it hits the front page. So there's something to be said about why Digg is justified in deleting stories on occasion; they never gave them the OK, whereas Slashdot did. On the other hand, none of the other major outlets have pulled the story, and there was a Digg submission stating that everyone from Google to Reddit have received legal threats. Only Digg has backed down, nobody else. This is probably a trade secret issue, IANAL and don't know much about trade secrets, but it seems that if NOBODY else is concerned, then there probably isn't a case to be made. - bobpaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's one thing to back down when threatened with liability for illegal content posted.
It's another thing to back down when threatened with liability for something that is almost assuredly not illegal.
Finally, it's something else entirely to run a website dependent on user driven content, and then delete the accounts of users without warning because they submitted something that may or may not be illegal.
If it was a DMCA notice, digg should remove the content and notify the poster. That poster should then have a chance to counter-claim at which point digg can repost without risk of legal liability and the content owner now has to sue the poster. This is how the DMCA works.
However, they probably didn't get a DMCA notice because you can't copyright a number. Nor does it break the do not circumvent clause because the key doesn't circumvent anything; you need a program to use the key and that ACT would be circumventing. So the DMCA most assuredly doesn't apply, and that's why Digg didn't follow that procedure.
So what is it then? Can't be a patent; can't patent numbers either. Trade secret, maybe? I have no idea how the rules for that game work, but I've a pretty good guess that since nobody here signed an NDA to keep that a secret, none of us have done anything wrong. The same goes for Digg which I think gets some press immunity because of these. I mean seriously, haven't we seen hundreds of leaked trade secrets from Apple, Microsoft, game developers, and others? That's never been pulled.
Now, the big difference between Digg and slashdot is that Digg is automated and slashdot requires an editor to approve a story before it hits the front page. So there's something to be said about why Digg is justified in deleting stories on occasion; they never gave them the OK, whereas Slashdot did. On the other hand, none of the other major outlets have pulled the story, and there was a Digg submission stating that everyone from Google to Reddit have received legal threats. Only Digg has backed down, nobody else. This is probably a trade secret issue, IANAL and don't know much about trade secrets, but it seems that if NOBODY else is concerned, then there probably isn't a case to be made.
- loker269, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have put the story back up in the hopes that this one will make it to the front page...if I am banned so be it, I think this piece sheds light on the matter and needs to be seen by more people.
http://digg.com/software/Digg_Accepts_HD_DVD_Sponsorship_Dollars_2 - nikko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5hey, somebody just emailed me this and asked me to post it to this thread. I'm not a frequent digg user, so I don't understand what this is all about, but here goes:
09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0 - inurb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/02/the_new_hddvdbl.html
- vetal17, on 10/12/2007, -0/+209 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
- XSforMe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Goodbye digg
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09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 - megafan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Goodbye digg
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09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 - banihanil, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I am so that sorry this site don't have anything about the soap opera General Hospital, Your losing
so much amazing beautiful scenes about Liason/Jason, Elizabeth, Steve Burton and Rebecca Herbst.
I hope Digg will start to look into the soap world.
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