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Firefox 3 Boosts Browser's Market Share Over 19%
informationweek.com — Firefox 3 has experienced rapid market share gains since its release in mid-June, helping to push the Mozilla browser's overall share to more than 19%, a Web metrics firm said Wednesday.
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- claycollins, on 07/05/2008, -6/+204Death to IE
- Grub, on 07/05/2008, -9/+16death to no product.
competition ftw.- stretch611, on 07/05/2008, -1/+31Death to IE. For competition there is still Opera, Safari, Konqueror, Galleon, Lynx, and more,
IE8 will be allowed to live if it is really w3c standards compliant. - known, on 07/06/2008, -1/+5Open Source Software Promotes Competition in Businesses.
Closed Source Software Promotes Collusion in Businesses! - nonsapiens, on 07/06/2008, -5/+1stretch, I'm not sure I can call Lynx competition for anything - let's be honest here, unless you like to read webpages in the same way you like to listen to a CD by looking at thing.
- stretch611, on 07/05/2008, -1/+31Death to IE. For competition there is still Opera, Safari, Konqueror, Galleon, Lynx, and more,
- thecheatah, on 07/06/2008, -1/+8AAH, IE, lets go through a list of bugs I have found TODAY!!!!
1. Setting the size for a text box in ie 7/8 compatibility mode automatically adds about 6-7 pixels. So all your math to resize textboxes needs to have an extra if statement!
2. opacity is either not yet implemented in ie 8 or the developers have came up with there own band new way to of defining (opacity nor the filter hack work). Just use the ***** opacity tag you *****.
Any ways, this has been a public service announcement as to why I hate IE.
(I am not a fanboy, IE REALLY does suck [a lot of my time])
- Grub, on 07/05/2008, -9/+16death to no product.
- pinkpackrat, on 07/05/2008, -19/+3Love Firefox, and Flock--IE??/what's that LOL
- dullnation, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13What? Flock is just a modified version of firefox...
- celkin, on 07/06/2008, -0/+4Dunno. Which LOL are you wondering about?
- Zpanzer, on 07/05/2008, -3/+97Couldn't see myself without firefox today.
- Dumbledorito, on 07/05/2008, -2/+50So if you uninstall it, you become invisible? Cool.
- rmeddy, on 07/05/2008, -3/+32Or goes blind.
- skidzilla, on 07/05/2008, -1/+21Well using IE too much could make you go blind anyhow.
- Dumbledorito, on 07/05/2008, -2/+50So if you uninstall it, you become invisible? Cool.
- miochza, on 07/05/2008, -6/+50Firefox = FSM's Browser of Choice
- petikeke, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6Not only finite state machines use firefox
- Bkaufman, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3I love how I'm not the only person who's first thought when they see FSM isn't Flying Spaghetti Monster.
- DyceFreak, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3Colbert Bump what what!
- paulmer2003, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1What about good ol' lynx :D
- nonsapiens, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1what about it?
- betheturtle, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1is lynx a comment on 'fox' or on 'linux'? because i think your humor is too awesome for me to understand it...
- petikeke, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6Not only finite state machines use firefox
- mikesoba, on 07/05/2008, -10/+3Couldn't get Firefox 3 to work on Vista Home without getting UAC errors.
Hate IE so went back to Firefox 2
Feeling left out.- s0m31john, on 07/05/2008, -1/+15PEBKAC
- B3000, on 07/05/2008, -8/+3Um, no it doesn't. There are HUGE problems with FF3, just go to Mozilla's support boards which are FILLED with complaints about repeated crashes. It is an unworkable mess. FF3 running with no add ons, apps or anything, crashes every 2-3 minutes on my machine.
- Nysul, on 07/05/2008, -5/+3Firefox 3 crashes constantly for me as well with no extensions. Firefox 2 is much slower but much more stable.
- jbeardsl, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6Wife's laptop (vista) had major issues when I upgraded to FF3. However running windows update to pick up the latest few patches put things right. Try that.
- Dumbledorito, on 07/05/2008, -2/+13Either you're computer illiterate, or you don't actually use Vista.
Regardless of which is true, what kind of powerbook do you actually use? - drspeck, on 07/05/2008, -6/+0Vista sucks.
- ferrariman60, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4It runs great for me on Vista 64 bit. I do have some issues vs. FF2 on my eee that's running Kubuntu, but that's probably my fault. Of course, that install has also mysteriously been going to hell in the last week or so. I dunno, but I've had zero problems in Vista since FF3 Beta 3, when I downloaded it.
- B3000, on 07/05/2008, -1/+1I wish I was you. I've had nothing BUT problems since installing FF3.
- BlueSkyfish, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1UAC is my biggest complaint about Vista (I have 4 gigs of RAM, so bloat isn't an issue). It serves no purpose but to annoy you whenever you try to do anything. You're better off just disabling it.
http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vist ...- chaos7, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1i disabled UAC the first 5 min i had vista
- s0m31john, on 07/05/2008, -1/+15PEBKAC
- mjr600, on 07/05/2008, -21/+11Firefox 3 is very poor, still buggy, crashes and freezing are common, few add ons are compliant. I'm back with FF2 which is as good as ever.
- wolferz, on 07/05/2008, -2/+8I'm having an issue with flash audio not playing. I can play video as long as it has no audio track, but if it has an audio track only a small portion will play and without audio.
I had had this problem before with firefox and IE and the solution was to completely uninstall and reinstall flash... but that's not working now and IE isn't having a problem... nor is ff2 which is installed to another folder. - kcfreels, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8ever think it might be whatever crappy extension you've got loaded? No extensions = No crashes. Nothing wrong with the browser
- saisumimen, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2True. I have 19 extensions (from good programmers) and I've had no problems so far.
There's no way I can leave the awesome bar and the faster page loads.
- saisumimen, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2True. I have 19 extensions (from good programmers) and I've had no problems so far.
- srg13, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I don't think Firefox 3 has crashed on me since the betas... And I do have extensions installed.
Altogether, I think that it's a far better browser than FF 2.
- wolferz, on 07/05/2008, -2/+8I'm having an issue with flash audio not playing. I can play video as long as it has no audio track, but if it has an audio track only a small portion will play and without audio.
- jamessavik, on 07/05/2008, -3/+20I was sick of IE's crashing and otherwise screwing up. I retired IE in favor of Firefox 3
- B3000, on 07/05/2008, -9/+3Well good luck with that. I had the reverse experience. After many happy years with FF, I have had to temporarily switch back to IE because after installing FF3, it crashes every 2 - 5 minutes and sometimes more. I'll be rolling back to FF2, but unfortunatley I have to do a complete uninstall first, because just re-installing 2 over 3 doesn't seem to fix the problem for most people.
- sergiodlopes, on 07/06/2008, -0/+5Yeah, my brother was also saying that, until I uninstalled all the crappy add-ons he added installed. And FF3 worked just fine after that...
- Micktion, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2I too am part of that 0.4%.
IE had one problem that just totally sh*tted me.
Turn on jscript debugging (which I need for dev work). Open two pages with Jscript errors in new tabs, boom dead IE (only in Vista). This would happen to me all the time because my Hosts file blocks everything at all annoying.
I gave up all 2000 of my IE favorites, gave in to Delicious, ditched IE and went to Firefox 3.0.- eggie015, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1"I gave up all 2000 of my IE favorites,"
you should be able to import them into firefox
- eggie015, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1"I gave up all 2000 of my IE favorites,"
- B3000, on 07/05/2008, -9/+3Well good luck with that. I had the reverse experience. After many happy years with FF, I have had to temporarily switch back to IE because after installing FF3, it crashes every 2 - 5 minutes and sometimes more. I'll be rolling back to FF2, but unfortunatley I have to do a complete uninstall first, because just re-installing 2 over 3 doesn't seem to fix the problem for most people.
- superkendall, on 07/05/2008, -2/+22Not much longer before we see a tipping point and adoption REALLY starts to climb.
I still use Safari more that Firefox, but I have to say that seeing Firefox with a majority marketshare would be fantastic for everyone - web developers would have to stick more closely to standards.- wolferz, on 07/05/2008, -7/+1about that... it's strange but when I was working with various stuff I noticed that firefox3 seems to ignore a lot of the ways css2 is supposed to work and does not support a lot of css3 stuff that IE7 does. Also firefox2 and before are listed as actually misbehaving in many different ways in regard to css. Much more so than IE7.
I thought firefox was supposed to be more standards compliant but my experience has shown otherwise. Now it's starting to look like that was just hype.- Jedakiah, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8Sir you must not understand how they are "supposed to work". There are many things that seem like they should work a certain way, but aren't supposed to.
I have noticed a welcome increase in support for the specifications. Although CSS3 support is obviously lacking. - srg13, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2I don't think you really know what you're talking about - IE has hardly any CSS 3 at all - as MSDN says, "Windows Internet Explorer 8 is planned to be a fully CSS Level 2.1-compliant browser, and will support some features of CSS 3.". Firefox has far exceeded this level of CSS support.
The majority of CSS issues that you would see in Firefox is people coding for IE6 and 7's broken CSS rendering, and not testing on Firefox.
Anyway, take a look at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc351024(V ... for IE's CSS ability - basically, IE6 was hopeless for CSS2 and 3, IE7 is slightly better at CSS2, IE8 is a lot better (or is planned to be) and they all do/will suck at 3.0.
It's not hype - IE really does just suck, and it's just poor coding and testing of dodgy websites that would give the illusion of it being the other way around.
- Jedakiah, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8Sir you must not understand how they are "supposed to work". There are many things that seem like they should work a certain way, but aren't supposed to.
- CAisBacK, on 07/05/2008, -8/+4Safari's hard to beat it's fast clean secure easy to use......
- damndj, on 07/05/2008, -3/+10Yah I know what you mean. I loaded up Firefox and it was the most difficult piece of software I've ever used. I couldn't even figure out how to type in a URL.
Thank god for Apple's ease of use. - Furkle, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3I think you forgot your sarcasm tag.
- damndj, on 07/05/2008, -3/+10Yah I know what you mean. I loaded up Firefox and it was the most difficult piece of software I've ever used. I couldn't even figure out how to type in a URL.
- stretch611, on 07/06/2008, -1/+3No, I am a Firefox user/supporter, but I do not see the flood gates opening.
Many people use IE because "it came with the computer." These are usually the people who do not upgrade either. Usually they do not know any better and/or lack any sophisticated computer skills. Think of how many non-technical people you know that would not be able to download and install Firefox if you did not give them detailed instructions.
Then you have the corporations that still use IE. If some of these places went to Firefox then you would see the numbers climb quickly. However, there are many reasons why they stay on IE and many still stay on IE 6. Many of there older web applications were built platform dependent on IE6 when there really was no competition. They do not want to spend a lot of money revamping these web applications. Many tools that they use (including tools to watch what you are doing or prevent you from doing things) work only with IE. A few are also big Microsoft shops and will use everything Microsoft because "no one was ever fired for using Microsoft. (of course this was stolen from the phrase in the early 80's that was No one every got fired for buying IBM.)
And last Firefox needs to fight complacency. If someone does not know how much better it can be, they are content to stay with what they have.
Of course I would love to see Firefox get a meteoric rise, but the realist only sees a mild jump now and a continuation of the slow but steady rate Firefox has been growing at. - thecheatah, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1"web developers would have to stick more closely to standards", IS THAT YOU GOD?
- wolferz, on 07/05/2008, -7/+1about that... it's strange but when I was working with various stuff I noticed that firefox3 seems to ignore a lot of the ways css2 is supposed to work and does not support a lot of css3 stuff that IE7 does. Also firefox2 and before are listed as actually misbehaving in many different ways in regard to css. Much more so than IE7.
- balaurul, on 07/05/2008, -1/+45I kind of hated ff 2 cause it was such a memory hog but ff 3 is way f*king better ... superb piece of browser
- B3000, on 07/05/2008, -10/+2Except for the fact that for a lot of users, it crashes repeatedly every few minutes.
- Kral, on 07/05/2008, -1/+12Seeing as it doesn't crash for most people, it's likely some addon or plugin they use that's at fault.
- Kral, on 07/05/2008, -1/+12Seeing as it doesn't crash for most people, it's likely some addon or plugin they use that's at fault.
- BackEnThaWomb, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1******
- B3000, on 07/05/2008, -10/+2Except for the fact that for a lot of users, it crashes repeatedly every few minutes.
- shoopdawoop, on 07/05/2008, -7/+58as a high level executive in the anti-virus/spyware business, LONG LIVE IE
- neutronlaser, on 07/05/2008, -23/+4What is a level executive?
- JNudda, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13wooooosh
- trickyt, on 07/06/2008, -0/+6you need to lay off the weed man. there are other meanings to the word high you know.
- macatizor, on 07/06/2008, -0/+13I see what you did there.
- neutronlaser, on 07/05/2008, -23/+4What is a level executive?
- Skinnytroll, on 07/05/2008, -15/+18The only people who use IE are retards and people who don't know about Firefox.
- neutronlaser, on 07/05/2008, -3/+12And people at work that can't install software, so let's figure out a way to solve that problem too.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 07/06/2008, -0/+9Firefox portable
- bigmahlman, on 07/06/2008, -1/+4Deff. can use a flash drive bootable, version.
I found a nice like package with firefox, open office, sudoko, and some chat client.
and most work places dont stop you from using flash drives.
- B3000, on 07/05/2008, -19/+1Or people who installed Firefox 3 and now can't browse the web for more than 3 minutes withlout it crashing on them. I have been using Firefox for at least 4 years now, but FF3 is a piece of *****.
- Skinnytroll, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8Maybe you're doing it wrong.
- srg13, on 07/06/2008, -2/+1No, so far you're one of the only people here with that experience. Although it seems like you're trying your best to make it look like its a common problem...
- CAisBacK, on 07/05/2008, -1/+10IE controls the Market Share, so I guess there are a lot of retards......
- theaceoffire, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13Yes, there are.
To quote: "Think of how smart the average consumer is. Realize that half of them are worse than that."
^_^ Although I guess it should be "median" consumer. - JoeVet, on 07/06/2008, -1/+68 years of Bush. Yes there are a bunch of retards out there.
- theaceoffire, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13Yes, there are.
- Zounas, on 07/05/2008, -4/+2Or people who use other browsers.
- Skinnytroll, on 07/21/2008, -0/+0Did you even read my comment?
...
- Skinnytroll, on 07/21/2008, -0/+0Did you even read my comment?
- paulmer2003, on 07/06/2008, -2/+6Living up to your name, aren't you sir?
- AirRaven, on 07/06/2008, -1/+5Only on Digg can a comment as puerile as this get rated up.
- allnone, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2IE8 isn't that bad from what I've read about beta 2, it seems to be a lot better than beta 1. I have no problem with someone knowing about Firefox now and still using IE. IE6 was the problem.
I prefer Opera and Firefox, but IE7 and IE8 beta 1, are a hell of a lot safer and we have Firefox to thank for that.- scimitar91, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1may i say that ie7 sucks balls also
-firefox user
- scimitar91, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1may i say that ie7 sucks balls also
- neutronlaser, on 07/05/2008, -3/+12And people at work that can't install software, so let's figure out a way to solve that problem too.
- neutronlaser, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6I'd happily install Firefox 3 on the Windows networks I admin, but, I don't think it can have the settings changed with Active Directory. Does anyone know otherwise?
- JasonCox, on 07/05/2008, -0/+10As far as I know, Firefox has no Group Policy integration. But then again, what does IE really have? The ability to turn toolbars and addons on and off? Speaking as an IE lover and fellow network admin, that shouldn't prevent you from installing Firefox 3 on your network.
- neutronlaser, on 07/05/2008, -3/+2The main thing stopping me is setting the homepage via Group Policy. This can be done with Internet Explorer. The homepage on the networks I admin has to be the company intranet page. Yes I know it would be nice if people could learn to set it themselves, but that's not going to happen for reasons it would be unprofessional to say :P
- manitoba98xp, on 07/05/2008, -0/+9I've never used it personally, but I'm aware of this:
http://www.frontmotion.com/FMFirefoxCE/index.htm
It's a custom version of Firefox (updated for Firefox 3) which is packaged as an MSI (for deployment by Group Policy) and has support for being administered via Administrative Templates. You can set homepage, proxy settings, cache size and more.
Never used it myself, but worth investigating. - nemajordude, on 07/06/2008, -0/+0Novell Zenworks Configuration Management has built in support for Firefox. Way better than AD too.
- JasonCox, on 07/05/2008, -0/+10As far as I know, Firefox has no Group Policy integration. But then again, what does IE really have? The ability to turn toolbars and addons on and off? Speaking as an IE lover and fellow network admin, that shouldn't prevent you from installing Firefox 3 on your network.
- aserer511, on 07/05/2008, -0/+10And deservedly so! I'm back to 100% satisfaction with FF3; I had a nasty issue I just resolved with facebook; which now works flawlessly.
- Masternajee, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4This is another sector that Microsoft has total control over. Obviously it is diwindling and rapidly.
I like FF3 although there are some bugs. But I feel certain they will work them out quickly. Thank God for open source.- Dumbledorito, on 07/05/2008, -5/+3The percentage of use for FF is indeed, high, given its non-corporate origins and resources, but it's hardly fair to say IE is "dwindling."
Then again, math isn't pushed in the schools like it used to be...
- Dumbledorito, on 07/05/2008, -5/+3The percentage of use for FF is indeed, high, given its non-corporate origins and resources, but it's hardly fair to say IE is "dwindling."
- masscrazy, on 07/05/2008, -10/+7FF3 has done nothing to improve my browsing experience. Memory still too high, isnt faster at loading either.
- viksmaester, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2totally agree with you. Start-up time still sucks with a capital S
The Mac interface is still a c****y copy of i dunno safari or what. I'd rather use opera.
- viksmaester, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2totally agree with you. Start-up time still sucks with a capital S
- almondfilter3, on 07/05/2008, -12/+9How about FF3 addresses the constant crashing so many people are having
- neutronlaser, on 07/05/2008, -6/+4And the freezing now and then.
- ZachE84, on 07/05/2008, -4/+2Let me guess - you aren't running Windows?
- neutronlaser, on 07/05/2008, -4/+1This is in Windows (XP). Sometimes every Firefox window freezes at once, like it is waiting for data from somewhere.
- srg13, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I'm not running Windows and it's been pretty much flawless for me since I upgraded from FF 3 Beta 5...
- dn11, on 07/05/2008, -4/+3how about it addresses the massive memory leak problems that are worse than FF2... I'm not joking it is absolutely ridiculous, and I can't be the only one to encounter this. The beta versions were better than the final release.
- Sephr, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Firefox 3 beta 6 IS the final release but it gets the beta updates.
- Gudeldar, on 07/06/2008, -1/+4How about some evidence for this claim that FF3 is constantly crashing. I don't think I've had FF3 crash since I've started using it.
- Sirocco, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2FF2 crashed like crazy on my two systems. I've been running FF3 since the final release candidate and have yet to see a single crash, and I'm running all the same skins and extensions. If you're still having a problem then it's almost certainly something to do with an extension you have installed.
- iammzac, on 07/05/2008, -0/+10Slow and steady wins the race.
- ZachE84, on 07/05/2008, -7/+20The thing is, this number is not even close to correct. Every office worker is stuck to using IE. However, when they get home they use Firefox. You can basically double any figure released. So if it states 19%, it's really 38% market share.
Long Live Firefox!- Sephr, on 07/06/2008, -2/+1It's not like the sample space is one hour. All those office workers must of had time to get on Firefox within at least 24 hours.
- Dylson, on 07/05/2008, -10/+3Digg me up.
- Zounas, on 07/05/2008, -0/+5Never gonna digg you up...
- Micktion, on 07/06/2008, -1/+1Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna digg...
Never gonna digg...
- Micktion, on 07/06/2008, -1/+1Never gonna let you down
- celkin, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2Never gonna be a clown.
- Zounas, on 07/05/2008, -0/+5Never gonna digg you up...
- kookbutt, on 07/05/2008, -7/+2OK, I love FF3 but it has a lot of room for improvement. I definitely like FF over IE and won't go back unless I have to or if MS came out with a version of IE that will WOW me. With FF3 I have a lot of freezing and crashing when I visit a site with Java on it. And on some sites the graphics come out all wonky. Like in certain parts of Livemocha where text is misaligned on top of text and graphics.
- secrity, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3I haven't had any Java problems with FF3 on either XP or Kubuntu 8.04. I don't see many graphics problems, are the graphics problems that you are seeing being caused by FF problems or by the server coding being designed to work with only with IE?
- CAisBacK, on 07/05/2008, -6/+3I use Safari and FireFox. I updated to FF3 and found that half of my Add Ons do not support FireFox 3, ironically it was the the good half. Well, going back to FF2 now, or I'll switch completely to Safari :)
- secrity, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3Get the Nightly Tester Tools and make everything compatible.
- Ducttape21, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I almost dugg you down for the improper use of the word irony, but I'll spare you.
- Jedakiah, on 07/05/2008, -0/+5Since FF2 stopped working on my system I have been forced into using version 3 since beta 5. I noticed numerous crashes during the beta. But with the latest release I have experienced no problems.
I think most people's issues would be solved by an uninstall/fresh install of the latest version, and of course a stable system.
However the only stat counter I trust hasn't had a full month with FF3. I'll wait for W3C counter's July update to believe Firefox3's actual market penetration. - B3000, on 07/05/2008, -8/+3Screw the crash-tastic mess of garbage that is Firefox 3. I gone from a huge fan to a total hater ever since I installed FF3. It crashes literally every 2-5 minutes, if not more. It may be great for some, but there are massive issues which should have been ironed out before release.
And despite what all you FF loving Diggers might think, I am not alone.
These problems are being reported all over the place and Mozilla's support boards are full of them.- rmeddy, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4PEBCAK.
- B3000, on 07/05/2008, -2/+1Yeah, no it doesn't. Problem exists that you are a douche though.
- Sephr, on 07/06/2008, -1/+1Mozilla doesn't have support boards. They have bugzilla.mozilla.org for reporting bugs.
- B3000, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1WTF is this then, douche?
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Support+Websit ...
Seriously, if you are going to act like a ***** know-it-all then get your ***** facts straight.
- B3000, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1WTF is this then, douche?
- rmeddy, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4PEBCAK.
- YodaJones, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7Why the hell would anybody use IE? As far as nice rendering of pages, Safari looks the best, but Firefox works on all pages and is the best developers tool.
- Sephr, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Safari has a great debugger too that is >= firebug for firefox. I use firebug because Safari has tons of flash problems on my pc.
- M0stBlunt3d, on 07/05/2008, -2/+3Firefox has come a long way. I remember when it was just released it was already superior than IE. I'm glad Gates didn't hire the "firefox kid".
- bblande, on 07/05/2008, -6/+1I love FF3, but anyone who think it'll overtake IE after this long is delusional. I just mentioned it (and installed it) on my girlfriend's PC and she said, "What is this Mozilla Firefox?" Grassroots campaigns can only do so much.
- klo3825, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3I was just noticing the other day that the sites I manage are over 20% firefox users. I am happy that it is not unique to my sites and extends to the entire internet.
- canman888, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Then you're plain stupid, you don't have an idea about the gazillions of $ you loose because of the ***** who are using adblock :( ***** killing my business, and you idiots don't understand why. In the future, nothing will be free on the net because you ***** dislike ads
- stutimandal, on 07/05/2008, -4/+36On windows:
Firefox 3.0 > Opera > Flock > Seamonkey > IE 8.0 Beta > Safari > 0 > IE 7.0> IE 6.0- uremomsnitemare, on 07/06/2008, -5/+1Dugg you up but
Firefox 3.0 > Opera > Flock > Seamonkey > Firefox 2.0 > Safari > 0 > IE 7.0 > IE 6.0- arielb86, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3to my view...
Firefox 3.0 = Opera > > Firefox 2.0 > Safari > 0 > IE 7.0 > IE 6.0
- arielb86, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3to my view...
- zzz@tkz, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2On OS X
Firefox
Uhh..yep.
- uremomsnitemare, on 07/06/2008, -5/+1Dugg you up but
- IphtashuFitz, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7I'm just glad to have a browser that works on multiple platforms. Between work & personal life I run a few versions of linux as well as Mac OSX & Windows XP. It'd really suck to have to use different browsers on them all. Having one browser that runs on them all is a Very Nice Thing (tm). Having that one browser be Firefox is icing on the proverbial cake!
- gaziddlybop, on 07/05/2008, -9/+1WTF? look at this...
http://digg.com/apple/LockDownMyID_Purchase_By_Mic ... - alexlinebrink, on 07/06/2008, -1/+7I don't know where they get their stats, but I'm a web-designer/developer, and watching my personal pages and my clients' pages, I've been seeing 75+% hits coming from Firefox since the 3.0 release (it was around 60% before that). My totals automatically leave out my IP too, so it isn't rigged.
One site - my personal design & social marketing site ( http://www.thatindiedude.com ) - is dragging in nearly 95% Firefox.
Seems to me that Firefox is already the big winner on anything but AOL.com and MSN.com.- srg13, on 07/06/2008, -0/+5Well, it's fairly obvious that if you had a site targeted at smart people, you'd have a huge percentage of people using alternate browsers.
- alexlinebrink, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Very true.
- srg13, on 07/06/2008, -0/+5Well, it's fairly obvious that if you had a site targeted at smart people, you'd have a huge percentage of people using alternate browsers.
- MrSurly, on 07/06/2008, -5/+2I use Firefox exclusively. FF3 isn't all that great, from a sheer usability standpoint, for me, mostly because it freezes up (hangs) several times a day.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_hangs- Rowanw, on 07/06/2008, -1/+1Usability is not stability.
Reformat your PC.- MrSurly, on 07/06/2008, -0/+0If I used Windows, your comment might be valid. I have a stable OS. FF2 was (and still is) stable on that OS. Every other app is stable on that OS. FF3 is NOT. It's pretty clear FF3 is the issue.
Thank you, drive through. - Joe11Blue, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Yes, if a piece of software doesn't work right it's the OS's fault. stupid logic.
- MrSurly, on 07/06/2008, -0/+0If I used Windows, your comment might be valid. I have a stable OS. FF2 was (and still is) stable on that OS. Every other app is stable on that OS. FF3 is NOT. It's pretty clear FF3 is the issue.
- Rowanw, on 07/06/2008, -1/+1Usability is not stability.
- juliehardman, on 07/06/2008, -0/+5Only reason I downloaded it is because Digg logs you out every five minutes when using internet explorer 7 with windows vista. At least that is my experience!
- Dustin00, on 07/06/2008, -3/+4And the war over the $0.0000 million dollar browser market continues!
Not sure if any company is winning, really...- Gudeldar, on 07/06/2008, -0/+11The Mozilla Corporation makes boatloads of money from Google to keep Google as their default search engine, don't you think there is a reason that the Firefox homepage is http://www.google.com/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation
In 2006 the Mozilla Foundation received US$66.8 million in revenues, of which 61.5 million is attributed to "search royalties".[2]
The foundation has an ongoing deal with Google to make Google search the default in the Firefox browser search bar and hence send it search referrals; a Firefox themed Google search site has also been made the default home page of Firefox. A footnote in Mozilla's 2006 financial report states "Mozilla has a contract with a search engine provider for royalties. The contract originally expired in November 2006 but was renewed for two years and expires in November 2008. Approximately 85% of Mozilla’s revenue for 2006 was derived from this contract."; this equates to approximately US$56.8 million.[2]
- Gudeldar, on 07/06/2008, -0/+11The Mozilla Corporation makes boatloads of money from Google to keep Google as their default search engine, don't you think there is a reason that the Firefox homepage is http://www.google.com/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls ...
- cutchyacokov, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2Yup, IE makes you go blind and Opera makes you grow a third eye . . . I'm not quite up for that yet so I stick with Firefox.
- FBDYLVR, on 07/06/2008, -6/+2Yahoo mail always crashes my FF3 :(
- Jennica, on 07/06/2008, -2/+5get gmail
- gbose, on 07/09/2008, -0/+0Yes, this is a known problem experienced by some FF3 users (problem with new Yahoo Mail version not with Classic version). Hang in there and the Mozilla developers will have a fix soon.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/release ...
"Known issues" are found toward the end of the Release Notes.
- Drull, on 07/06/2008, -8/+3***** THE RIAA
- earthforce1, on 07/06/2008, -2/+10Shameless plug:
If you are impressed by firefox, maybe you might want to give other open source SW a try, i.e.
Thunderbird E-Mail
OpenOffice
Linux - IN5P1R3, on 07/06/2008, -2/+3I honestly don't see what's so amazing about FF3. I use it all the time and it doesn't "wow" me. I rarely use IE, except for when certain sites don't work in FF. To me, FF is just another browser.
- cdigioia, on 07/06/2008, -2/+2Extensions?
- Joe11Blue, on 07/06/2008, -3/+0Some people don't get all excited over a piece of software. People that aren't stuck with low levels of maturity see it for what it is, a tool.
- cdigioia, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1What's wrong with enjoying one's tools?
- cdigioia, on 07/06/2008, -2/+2Extensions?
- OFFTOPICSdotCOM, on 07/06/2008, -6/+1the stats for my site
http://offtopics.com
44.9% - firefox
37.2% - ie
12.8% - safari
4% - opera - Amadeus2490, on 07/06/2008, -4/+6***** IE!
- Subassy, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2This is probably off topic but I felt like mentioning anyway: I have been having latency issues with my comcast connection (the first hop outside my router was up to and including 1,200 ms) so I called support. The guy actually asked me if I was using IE! I told him I was on FF and he said to try IE and see if it helped!! I explicitly told him at the top of the call it was a latency/network issue and this affected things like skype and online games. And he STILL asked about my web browser. I think I'm switching to DSL :-|
- Soave, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3Title is a bit misleading. Market share didn't INCREASE over 19%, it increased TO over 19%.
Still, yay Firefox! - snareguy17, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2I'm sorry I can't leave a constructive comment. What I was about to say was immediately forgotten when I saw cameltoe on the snorgtees girl.
- Louis11, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Damn you adblock plus.
- MrSmiley909, on 07/06/2008, -0/+0It was the Colbert Bump
- GhostyBoy, on 07/06/2008, -2/+3I'm still surfing in Firefox 2.
If it ain't broke.... - jackdaniels06, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2Go Firefox! Internet Explorer sucks! Firefox rules!
- homer082, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Good for Firefox..
In terms of the reported market share, Firefox is competing in a handicapped. You have IE being shipped with nearly all Windows PC and Safari in Mac computers, and here is Firefox..not shipped or installed in new computers or built-in on an operating system but still offers the best (but not perfect) product..Go Firefox.. - nrox653, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1It's official: Internet Explorer is only there for the purpose of letting you download Firefox =)
- Feldon, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1Amen
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