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- SquareEnix, on 09/05/2008, -20/+85hmmm ok. now bring in the multitab-multiprocess-host model from Google Chrome, speedup gecko to webkit standards, and integrate Weave into the browser already and you have a winner!1! (or perhaps ff4?)
- limeyTart, on 09/06/2008, -5/+62Do a lot of work in FF3 - I already consider it a winner, Chrome is impressive - but no good for my Ubuntu machine.
- kodek, on 09/06/2008, -61/+5@ massaks:
Buried, reported, and blocked. Not for your opinion, but for being an *****. - limeyTart, on 09/06/2008, -2/+21@kodek
Just wondering what the issue was with that response from @massaks that you feel deserved that kind of response? - bonds, on 09/06/2008, -4/+21@ kodek:
Lawl what a dirtbag "buried, reported, and blocked" I see you're new - SummerNight, on 09/06/2008, -1/+19Just being devil's advocate here... it's possible that massaks edited his post after kodek posted his, and kodek didn't notice.
- chazza125, on 09/06/2008, -3/+12Frankly it annoys me when people always scream "Buried" or something as if we asked for their almighty opinion.
- themastersb, on 09/06/2008, -3/+19smassaks
35 minutes ago
kodek
36 minutes ago
I think some editing was done so we will never know the truth. - MadHarvey, on 09/06/2008, -2/+11Massaks has been trolling the Linux stories on Digg for awhile now...
- souravondigg, on 09/06/2008, -2/+1Its a 'knews' now.
- libertao, on 09/06/2008, -2/+2Just look at Massak's comment history, I'm sure he was trolling and then edited.
- limeyTart, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2It would seem @massak is comment trolling - look at his comment history. Looks like @kodek has been blocked - anything to be done about unblocking him? - forgive my ignorance on how that works.
- limeyTart, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2OK - figured out the block issue, pretend I never asked :-)
- kodek, on 09/07/2008, -0/+1@everyone
That douche edited his comment just to make me look bad. I wish I had quoted him when I posted my comment :(
Sorry about the confusion.
- kodek, on 09/06/2008, -61/+5@ massaks:
- n0odles, on 09/06/2008, -1/+11Install the Tracemonkey nightly build of Firefox 3.1, it beats Chrome's V8. Webkit wasn't what made Chrome fast. It was the isolated tab processing and JavaScript engine, but that failed to actually isolate tabs from the recent overflow vulnerability in Chrome.
- Culyt, on 09/07/2008, -1/+2Wow Chrome hacked already. That didn't take long and surprising with the sandboxing.
Well I guess its a first release...
- Culyt, on 09/07/2008, -1/+2Wow Chrome hacked already. That didn't take long and surprising with the sandboxing.
- troye, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2It's going to be a while before it hits. Mozilla is planning a Beta 1 sometime in the future. After, maybe a Beta 2, and then it's likely we get the goodies.
I'm guessing another month and a half - less even.
SOURCE: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3.1/Schedule - DanAtkinson, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6I don't think that bundling Weave into Firefox as default is such a good thing. I'm a strong believer in the ability to extend Firefox with it's vast array of addons. If you start including addons such as these without any say so from the user, then you prevent developers from doing cool new things, which would in turn stifle creativity, and then you'd end up with a downturn in Firefox's fortunes.
- mirunit, on 09/06/2008, -3/+4If you create a browser and it does not support AdBlock Plus, then you have failed.
- silfiriel, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3yeah because "Chrome has it all". face it, chrome is a mix of Safari's speed (and memory hog) and Firefox's power and extensibility.
but it's far away from finished, stable and as good as fx - FireSlash, on 09/06/2008, -3/+2one process per tab isn't that exciting guys. FF rarely crashes and when it does, it picks up where it left off. The only difference is that all of your tabs reload instead of just one.
Worried about your downloads resetting? get Download Them All! (DTA). It's a phenomenal replacement for the built-in download manager, and can reliably resume downloads (It also supports download acceleration and queuing). FF 3.1 with Tracemonkey is close enough to Chrome that I can't spot the difference in speed, and FF has a much more mature addon base.
- limeyTart, on 09/06/2008, -5/+62Do a lot of work in FF3 - I already consider it a winner, Chrome is impressive - but no good for my Ubuntu machine.
- Zounas, on 09/06/2008, -1/+13I've waited for those CSS supports, mainly :nth-* selectors and text-shadows. Makes this a bit easier and prettier.
- diggproof, on 09/06/2008, -14/+7Who cares when a large number of people are still using IE 6?
- piesforyou, on 09/06/2008, -0/+7We cant stay in the past just because some people dont upgrade. When those people start to encounter more and more websites that look odd on their browsers, they will be forced to upgrade and thus we move along to a nice, curvier, shadowey, gradienty internet.
- SuperRoach, on 09/06/2008, -1/+2More importantly, does it really matter? You can use a library like jQuery, and have nth support and most css3 niceties - and ie6 support. Bit of a no brainer really.
- mirunit, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2Exactly what I was thinking. Another fun thing in IE is GetElementsByName(), which it happens to not really support.
- svivian, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1You can use graceful degradation anyway - eg for zebra stripes on a table, stick some borders on there first and use the nth-child selector to remove them and put alternate backgrounds on there.
- diggproof, on 09/06/2008, -14/+7Who cares when a large number of people are still using IE 6?
- sliksta, on 09/06/2008, -5/+79Integrated video without flash sounds great. Have always hated adobe and their bug-ridden software.
- thecheatah, on 09/06/2008, -0/+11I hope youtube allows us to use this functionality. With them, everyone else will soon follow!
- hiimcliff, on 09/06/2008, -0/+12adobe flash plugin is the culprit for resource hogging in all browsers.
- ThreeDee912, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1Most of YouTube's videos already have been converted to H.264, so I don't think it should be hard for YouTube to switch.
- Culyt, on 09/07/2008, -0/+1This uses Ogg Theora though. I assume YouTube keep the origional uploads so they can just bulk convert to whatever.
- MuffinFlavored, on 09/06/2008, -22/+5Chrome.
A resizable-HTML video element could be quite interesting.- Atomic1fire, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2its not all one element, but the use of existing standards combined with the video element that makes all of that stuff happen, video only provides the video, other standards, such as svg are used to modify it.
- noheadhorseman, on 09/06/2008, -25/+4i am using it right now... it seems a bit faster, that whole tab thing has nothing on the google chrome experience. on the other hand for me chrome can barely play videos back (there are constant button freezing issues but on regular web pages it seems faster)
overall Firefox is U-G-L-Y, and should adopt a similar interface to the beautiful streamlined simplicity of google chrome. still chrome still will never be big until they get add-ons; hopefully in the next update we will get atleast get an integrated google toolbar.
nice to see some better competition!- MuffinFlavored, on 09/06/2008, -4/+10I would never want an integrated Google toolbar. I like how much space I have with Chrome to view the actual content of the web page.
I can just hold down Ctrl and tap L and begin my Google search right then and there.- noheadhorseman, on 09/06/2008, -4/+1who doesn't want a pop-up blocker, translator, gmail checker and all the other expandable features that come with Google toolbar? i was just using that as an example of an add-on but Google will probably add these features on as an option, and as it is a full open system in my opinion it will be a like the toolbar download in IE and Firefox- but maybe more integrated and and visually pleasing.
- Atomic1fire, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1actually IE7 looks worse
they butchered the address bar and moved it up
they placed the menu in the middle of the screen, unless you remove it, and they attempted to add all of this stuff without much graphical adjustments in xp (except derailing it from vistas standards and making it look worse)
Safari looks too out of place, so google chrome is a welcome alternative. and even though its pretty low end, they did it without ticking too many people off, since in all actuality, the searchbar/addressbar fusion is not that evil
- whodaimen, on 09/06/2008, -5/+22I find chrome "U-G-L-Y", and Firefox beautiful.
- Anonemousk, on 09/06/2008, -15/+3Well, you're wrong.
- diggproof, on 09/06/2008, -1/+8Chrome looks like IE 7 and it doesn't even have a Google Suggest built in and it's made by Google. Go figure.
- pooljoe, on 09/06/2008, -2/+5Chrome needs to add Google Bookmarks!!!!!!!!
- MuffinFlavored, on 09/06/2008, -4/+10I would never want an integrated Google toolbar. I like how much space I have with Chrome to view the actual content of the web page.
- RyIvan, on 09/06/2008, -23/+3But we have chrome now.....
- roxgod666, on 09/06/2008, -0/+12i used it for a day until i released how glitchy it is. RESORT BACK TO FIREFOX!!!!!!!!
- RyIvan, on 09/06/2008, -9/+1Yeah, thats a great idea, compare a beta to a full release and complain about the glitches, good one dumbass.
- roxgod666, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2When did i compare them? I just said that it is glitchy and im resorting back to firefox which just about everyone has by now. I never even mentioned if it was bad or good, in fact i like it. Way to assume words that were never said you giant douche
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x234/ctbob/douc ...
- roxgod666, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2When did i compare them? I just said that it is glitchy and im resorting back to firefox which just about everyone has by now. I never even mentioned if it was bad or good, in fact i like it. Way to assume words that were never said you giant douche
- Mohdoo, on 09/06/2008, -5/+2Once it is actually released, it will be the new standard. By then, there will be some sort of ad-block plus. But until then, it is simply too buggy.
- OJXs, on 09/06/2008, -18/+3It is going to take more than that to make me switch back from Chrome
A integration with Vista's UI is a must, they had so much time to do it already - OfNumbers, on 09/06/2008, -8/+1Flashy :)
- linkerm, on 09/06/2008, -2/+29Anything that makes the javascript run faster (not to mention hanging up loads) would be very welcome.
- Diggtatorship, on 09/06/2008, -0/+9FF3 does have a new, bleeding-fast, javascript engine. It's equal in performance with the V8 engine that chrome uses.
- Protoss, on 09/06/2008, -1/+2Really? Thought it was just a tuned version of the previous one? I know FF3.1 has a new engine.
- iofthestorm, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6Well, the one that's as fast as V8 is in 3.1 but Firefox 3's engine is a lot faster than Firefox 2's.
- renegadeafk, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3The new engine is in the nightlies but you have to enable it in about:config. Just go to about:config and type "jit" and set both things that come up to true.
- Diggtatorship, on 09/06/2008, -0/+9FF3 does have a new, bleeding-fast, javascript engine. It's equal in performance with the V8 engine that chrome uses.
- rickastleyfan2, on 09/06/2008, -32/+3I just have one question since everything on digg is all political and such: What is so great about Obama and why exactly would his economical and social agenda would work in America? I seriously want an answer that doesn't include something like "because the republicans are elitists." According to what i've read, Obama wants the top five percent of the nation to pay for 80% of the taxes. Don't you think that of all politicians who are running this year( and yes, McCain is more of a moderate than what you give him credit for), Obama is the most extreme radical?
- spacerobot, on 09/06/2008, -8/+2because the republicans are elitists.
- MattNF, on 09/06/2008, -2/+6What the ***** does that have anything to do with this story? GTFO.
- Owwmykneecap, on 09/06/2008, -14/+120Chrome = no addons. fail.
- cowboy77061, on 09/06/2008, -23/+3it's in beta!!!
Firefox users relying so much on plugin's for functionality reflects the weakness of Firefox. Chrome-beta has impressed me so much more than any iteration of Firefox.- bhowell, on 09/06/2008, -2/+34Extensions are among Firefox's biggest *strengths*! It's neither feasible nor desirable to have all of the functionality that extensions provide integrated into the core Firefox. They allow people to enhance the browser to their specific needs.
- Derrekito, on 09/06/2008, -1/+14I agree with bhowell. There is not one stock browser out there that meets the needs of all the users. Allowing the room for these nuances in the application is not a weakness, but a STRENGTH!
- bonds, on 09/06/2008, -3/+3cowboy - That's because you're a simp
- Owwmykneecap, on 09/06/2008, -2/+9like google would EVER allow an adblocker.
30% of EU web traffic is Firefox.
I'm willing to be 70% of FF users use adblock plus.
Do you get where I'm going with this? - cowboy77061, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3create an addon for threaded tabs, speed-dial type page, better download manager, private surfing, etc.
your browser will end up being slow as *****. by the time Chrome 1 comes out, it will have more functionality than Firefox, and that's just the truth. plugins are only needed for very small things, not something that should be an essential part of the browser. - yogiincork, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1@Owwmykneecap:
It's open source, so it's not like Google can disallow anything done to its browsers source code when published under the appropriate license.
EDIT: But I agree that some kind of Adblock for Chrome would certainly not be in Google's interest! - init100, on 09/06/2008, -1/+1@cowboy77061
"plugins are only needed for very small things, not something that should be an essential part of the browser."
There are wildly different opinions of what are essential parts of a browser. E.g. Opera thinks that a Bittorrent client is an essential part of a browser, while I think not. I really like the fact that Firefox ships only a browser, and that I can decide what features I consider essential features of a browser and add those and only those.
- identifiedlogo, on 09/06/2008, -9/+8hold up, i was on chrome for a day and a half and I haven't missed anything that was on firefox. Chrome is FAST and simple.
- Owwmykneecap, on 09/06/2008, -2/+25What DO ads look like again? I forgoted.
Do they still do "You are the 1,000,000th visitor"?
- Owwmykneecap, on 09/06/2008, -2/+25What DO ads look like again? I forgoted.
- GreenAlien, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5Lack of addons is half the reason I havent switched to Chrome too. But it's hardly a fail. It's the first beta of a brand new browser and it's already fundamentally better than all the others.
- cowboy77061, on 09/06/2008, -23/+3it's in beta!!!
- elliott9, on 09/06/2008, -3/+8Does anybody know if this includes TraceMonkey? I am really looking forward to seeing if TraceMonkey is actually faster than Google's V8.
- diggproof, on 09/06/2008, -4/+3Yes, but you have to enable it yourself.
- bsmedberg, on 09/06/2008, -1/+16No. TraceMonkey was landed immediately after alpha-2 branched, so that we could stabilize and test it before beta 1.
- manacit2, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4Nope, it does not. You have you download a nightly build and enable it (there's a link at the bottom of the page)
- souravondigg, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1Should have read the article. It specifically mentions no Tracemonkey in FF3.1a2.
- Flushnasty, on 09/06/2008, -14/+142But but but CHHHRROOme. Man ***** that, I love my firefox.
- KingGorilla, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6cutest mascot wins!
- GreyMalkin, on 09/06/2008, -18/+151What... Firefox is only on version 3? Microsoft's Internet Explorer is on version 7. Do the math: 7-3=4. IE is 4 times faster than Firefox. What a crap browser. If Firefox was so great, how come it's never pre-installed on any new machine?
- theOster, on 09/06/2008, -24/+5wait, what?
- Ki77erB, on 09/06/2008, -4/+93Dude, you forgot the "/sarcasm". Without it everyone will take you 100% serious!
- watcht, on 09/06/2008, -8/+2Well duh everyone knows you have to go through the cloisters trials of Sunland than do 3 sacrifices to the phoenix of the internet to receive Firefox, you can't have everything handed to you.
- blitz718, on 09/06/2008, -2/+28Honestly, sarcasm that obvious doesnt need a tag, and when people don't realize you get to make fun of them.
- sibeth, on 09/06/2008, -2/+0hehe, take for example: theOstertheOster :)
- LeviTheSmith, on 09/06/2008, -11/+16Firerox was made by hackers too. Who would you trust? Microsoft, a company that donates millions to charity or Mozilla, a company that was founded by Communist hackers?
- Atomic1fire, on 09/06/2008, -3/+4actually the Mozilla foundation is registered as a non for profit
and Opensource does not mean communism
it means free to use the blueprints of the software, or sell the software with changes under a different name - afrothunderman, on 09/06/2008, -1/+4"or sell the software with changes under a different name"
Then wouldn't it be smart for Microsoft to just rebrand Firefox and call it IE8 - darkshadowfor, on 09/06/2008, -1/+7You forgot the "/sarcasm" there.
- ThreeDee912, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1@Atomic1fire
wooosshh... *flies over head*
- Atomic1fire, on 09/06/2008, -3/+4actually the Mozilla foundation is registered as a non for profit
- doublej42, on 09/06/2008, -3/+9firefox is a spin off of the old netscape core, so I guess firefox is kind of at version ... 14 I think (who really cared about mozilla after version 4)
- stretch611, on 09/06/2008, -1/+5Actually, Mozilla 1.0/Firefox 0.2/Netscape 5 was a complete rewrite. So the first 4 Netscapes had a different core.
- GreenAlien, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2Firefox 2.5 could have been labelled 3.0 if they wanted. So it would be Firefox 4 at the moment if you look at it that way.
Personally I would bet on a v3 being better than a v8, because v3 will have a more recent codebase/core design without years of old spaghetti code to tiptoe around.
- eccles30, on 09/06/2008, -1/+4Microsoft asked 12 technology experts and 12 first time users to make the new Internet Explorer their default browser for a day, and they all completely loved it, even more than their old browser!
- souravondigg, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2Truly IE for the 'noob'.
- init100, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1Well, that's not hard to understand, as those were probably all using IE6, the worst browser still in active use today.
- silfiriel, on 09/06/2008, -2/+1honestly, written sarcasm needs some clues, that it is indeed sarcasm. It might have sounded good in your head, but dude I buried you. you can't just write those lines without somekind of a symbol or a specific word....
- Qumahlin, on 09/06/2008, -1/+2I hope your being sarcastic, otherwise your an idiot. I don't think he could have clued you in anymore other then to add THIS IS SARCASM to the beginning of his post.
- silfiriel, on 09/06/2008, -2/+1I didn't want to say "idiot", but that's exactly how he sounds.
If it's that obvious how come the first comments are about it?
you would have to live in a constant sarcasm enviroment, like it's the common language or something, to consider his words sarcasm. - GreenAlien, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2"I hope your being sarcastic, otherwise your an idiot."
Why do people who call other people idiots hardly ever get basic grammar correct. It's "you're" for both.
- s4g4n, on 09/06/2008, -2/+7I can see where adds would take advantage of the new video manipulation code.
- n0odles, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2Are you kidding me. Flash is way more abusive in that sense. At least there is more control over the content now and multi-platform is going to be an actual possibility.
- init100, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1But so can Firefox extensions, like NoScript and GreaseMonkey.
- diggproof, on 09/06/2008, -11/+145If Chrome wasn't made by Google people would just laugh at it and say it's no Firefox.
- Gundumfx, on 09/06/2008, -19/+4and yet, chrome IS made by google. therefore, we have a quality name we can trust that also managed to go mainstream with a v0.2 beta release. FF is on 3.1 or w/e and still behind chrome
- diggproof, on 09/06/2008, -2/+21How the hell is it still behind Chrome? You must be joking. Chrome crashes on random websites.
- watcht, on 09/06/2008, -0/+13Mozilla isn't quality? Cmon, so Google releases a beta browser and now many people turn on Mozilla, ah can't even argue no more eh w/e i still loves you Mozilla and your helpful community.
- OneLess, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1Mainstream? You're kidding.
- bhowell, on 09/06/2008, -3/+28There's a reason for that. Google has a reputation for making quality software, and so far Chrome seems to fit that reputation. It's still not to the point where I'd use it over Firefox, but it does look promising.
- chewy5000, on 09/06/2008, -2/+27Knowing Google it will be in beta forever
*cough*gmail*cough*- roijen, on 09/06/2008, -3/+8That may not be a bad thing, it is only a name. Gmail appears to work well and I believe it has an acceptable level of functionality. What are your complaints?
- thecheatah, on 09/06/2008, -3/+3@ people digging down roijen, really what are the complaints?
- afrothunderman, on 09/06/2008, -1/+5Google calls Gmail beta because they are still adding new features, it isn't a stability issue. So what's the problem?
- silfiriel, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3while that is absolutely true, Chrome is actually good, I mean it's the first beta and it's better then IE7, FX2, Safari.
- Gundumfx, on 09/06/2008, -19/+4and yet, chrome IS made by google. therefore, we have a quality name we can trust that also managed to go mainstream with a v0.2 beta release. FF is on 3.1 or w/e and still behind chrome
- dunmasterkane, on 09/06/2008, -5/+25I'm using Chrome right now, because it was seemingly faster. I'm thinking about switching back to Firefox now...
- Derrekito, on 09/06/2008, -3/+14I love Chrome. It's slick looking, it's fast, it runs Javascript better, and renders things nicer (The latter is my opinion as far as I know). But I NEED addons.
- Anonemousk, on 09/06/2008, -12/+1@diggproof:
I've yet to have Chrome crash, it sounds like you're doing it wrong.- diggproof, on 09/06/2008, -1/+7It crashed on CNN and Facebook doesn't display some of the popups.
- Anonemousk, on 09/06/2008, -6/+2I don't go on facebook, but I've yet to have it crash on CNN.
- diggproof, on 09/06/2008, -1/+7It crashed on CNN and Facebook doesn't display some of the popups.
- mdew, on 09/06/2008, -5/+16To enable tracemonkey javascript improvements (NOTE: it is still beta, and can cause some crashes),
about:config
enable javascript.options.jit.content- comrade693, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3That doesn't work in alpha 2. Tracemonkey landed right after the code freeze for alpha 2.
- jannefoo, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5Just get the 3.1b1pre from nightlies
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1b1pre) Gecko/20080905031348 Minefield/3.1b1pre
- jannefoo, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5Just get the 3.1b1pre from nightlies
- comrade693, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3That doesn't work in alpha 2. Tracemonkey landed right after the code freeze for alpha 2.
- DeuceDiggalow, on 09/06/2008, -3/+24No thanks. I'm holding out for Firefox 3.1 alpha 2.1 beta.
- fatas, on 09/06/2008, -22/+3I am holding out for your mum
- DaDiggydiggyDOC, on 09/06/2008, -2/+9Gotta love competition! In the end we all get what we want a kick ass browser, something MS is still working on...
- fatas, on 09/06/2008, -17/+6Shame on you Firefox for not making your addons compatible with IE and now Chrome.
Shame on you. - magic6435, on 09/06/2008, -7/+14well it sure would be nice to use Chrome if it was available on anything other than ya know .. windows. what a joke.
- mustang460, on 09/06/2008, -4/+4they are releasing mac and linux versions, the beta JUST came out and they released it on the os with the vast majority of the marketshare, rather than waiting for the mac/linux versions to finish.
and people complain >. - widgetking, on 09/06/2008, -2/+2I can't digg you up enough for telling the truth. In my household, all I have is Macs and Linux. I can get by with running Chrome within the Parallels VM on the mac, but it is just not the same.
- mustang460, on 09/06/2008, -4/+4they are releasing mac and linux versions, the beta JUST came out and they released it on the os with the vast majority of the marketshare, rather than waiting for the mac/linux versions to finish.
- gplpark92, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6is Youtube gonna work again? right now it plays with no sound for 2 seconds, then stops. every video. tried reinstallnig flash player, and firefox, everything.
- doublej42, on 09/06/2008, -1/+6flash 10 fixes this I'm told
- thecheatah, on 09/06/2008, -0/+7flash 10 also fixes world hunger.
ooh and the ability to write over it with html elements in linux.
- thecheatah, on 09/06/2008, -0/+7flash 10 also fixes world hunger.
- naekun, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1Damn, I have this flash bug on "streaming" flash content (youtube, myspace, etc) since some times, and it's very annoying, I have it wifh Firefox. I need to relaunch FF too often to be able to play youtubes and others. I have it with Chrome too, but it's less annoying, and less frequent. And with IE the flash is working perfectly fine. And I can't get rid of that bug. I know some other people who have it too. Heard it was a Flash bug though...
- poxonyou, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1Wow. Thought I was the only one...thought I needed a full Windows reinstall to get things working again.
There are 2 alternatives I use:
1. IE, ugh. yeah, but only for Flash videos. No issues.
2. IE rendering plug-in for FF. This stops working for me if FF has been open awhile, or I have many (15+) tabs open.
Since Flash videos play fine with IE, I'm not sure if it's a Flash problem. - humptyz, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1I've found you can disable the Flash plugin (Tools menu / Add-ons / Plugins tab / Shockwave Flash), immediately re-enable it, and then refresh the page to get Flash videos working again when you get hit by this 2 second bug.
- doublej42, on 09/06/2008, -1/+6flash 10 fixes this I'm told
- cloudcity, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2tag autocomplete?
- MforMike, on 09/06/2008, -13/+1who cares chrome is out
- dood, on 09/06/2008, -1/+7They made build for Macs and for Linux in addition to Windows. That's nice of 'em.
- stretch611, on 09/06/2008, -0/+8FTA: "it enables web developers to more seamlessly intersperse video with other web content, manipulate video playback with JavaScript, and access video elements directly through the document object model (DOM)."
As a web developer, all I can say is COOL!!! - Resiroth, on 09/06/2008, -8/+2You pick a mainstream OS for mainsteam support. Don't expect linux/mac support on every application. You picked an alternative operating system so obviously you won't have the same attention as the people who picked windows.I did not buy a zune and then wonder why there wasn't ***** of accessories for it. I think google is making the right decision to focus on getting the windows version running well before releasing other editions. I love chrome's minimalist look and addons always felt half-baked on firefox so that is not an issue for me. I'm all for competition and did like firefox 3, chrome in my opinion is just was better. The only fault I've found is lack of zoom with images and a lack of adblock plus ( not a huge deal, never look to the sides of webpages anyways but still I hope they get it soon. )
- JohnFour, on 09/06/2008, -0/+7I don't think that an Ad company will have a browser that blocks ads.
- thecheatah, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4"I think google is making the right decision to focus on getting the windows version running well before releasing other editions."
Who the ***** are you? Nobody cares what you think or that you think linux isnt as "important". To me and everyone else who uses linux, its VERY important. If multi OS support was the goal initally they would have delivered it in the inital beta release. But for some reason they didnt. Google supposedly favors open source. If it has a problem developing ***** for it then say it flat out.
To tell you the truth I dont understand google and its intentions. RIght now they seem like those jerks that always smile and try to seem polite even when being dicks. I simply dont trust these people and i tend to stay away from them. Never know when there going to freak out.
- Syphon8, on 09/06/2008, -7/+4Chrome's parallel processing and flash-like speed have spoiled me. :(
- SheriffJWPepper, on 09/06/2008, -6/+1Hope I can turn that awesome bar crap off now.
I can dream can't I?- asguardian, on 09/06/2008, -3/+5Just get the Oldbar extension, idiot.
- SheriffJWPepper, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1LOL oldbar???? I came across that months ago. Dude, if you had a reading comprehension level beyond the second grade you could read their site and see that it says: "Note that the underlying autocomplete algorithm is the Firefox 3 algorithm, not the Firefox 2 algorithm. oldbar only affects the presentation of the results."
...so that defeats the purpose since I (as well as most people) don't like how it searches. How it looks to me isn't the problem (I actually like how it looks in FF3 better so I don't use oldbar). You'd understand this if you bothered to comprehend what I wrote. The fact of the matter is anything (extensions, about:config changes) are hack jobs unless they give a person a way to turn it off or revert to how it was in FF2.
Go learn some more and come back to Digg when you get more knowledge, moron.- init100, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1"I (as well as most people) don't like how it searches."
Did you ask most people, or did you just assume that most people think like you? I love the awesomebar, it is leaps and bounds better than the old location field. - SheriffJWPepper, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1hey
Well, all my friends I've asked hate it and I've looked over the threads at Anandtech and other places that some people don't like it and want a way to turn it off. A quick Google search for "turn awesome bar off" came up with 352,000 results.
I guess with anything it depends on who is asked. Maybe eventually the awesome bar will grow on me... :)
but you're right using "most" wasn't the best choice of words on my part.
- init100, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1"I (as well as most people) don't like how it searches."
- Deviate, on 09/06/2008, -2/+2I think it's great that all of this competition is forcing so much innovation. It takes a lot to get excited over new web browsers, but between IE 8, further iterations of Firefox, Chrome, Safari, etc., it is pretty interesting to watch as each one becomes more polished and implements new features.
The one question that I have, which, I personally, haven't seen covered is whether Google is using their Chrome clients to collect data. For a company that pretty much does nothing but aggregate data, it's a bit suspicious that they released a web browser that could be used to send every user's surfing history to their own servers to analyze. For all practical purposes, having that kind of information would be hugely beneficial for their target marketing, moreso than their toolbar and all other current methods of collecting that kind of data, would be.
As someone who works with law firms, privacy is always a concern, so could anyone shed some light on this?- shamess, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2You should look at this ( http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-commun ... ) post.
- LibertyForever, on 09/06/2008, -2/+1Competition for brand new Google Chrome, and market leader MS IE? Current version was fine already, so this is good for the planet.
- gmacnay, on 09/06/2008, -1/+3AT the end of the day, all this does is a continuous improvement of the various browers. Man, I can not believe I paid $4,200 for a 386 SX in 1986. The times are a-changin.....
- slippytoad, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2How does this relate to Minefield (3.1 b1pre)?
- Azzzzy, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2Minefield is newer and can be obtained only by downloading a nightly build.
- 2oonhed, on 09/06/2008, -4/+1I could give a flying flaming rats patootie about bookmark tags, and the awesome bar, or HTML 5.
What kind of moron can't find his own bookmarks without tags for cryin' out loud.
All I want is to see time/date stamps on history items.
That "web worker threads" for "computationally intensive JavaScript to be run in the background so that it doesn't cause the Firefox user interface to hang", seems like a worthy inclusion.
But they could flush the rest & I would be happy. - Twee, on 09/06/2008, -1/+1Does it pass the Acid3 test yet? I'm running the latest WebKit nightly build..
- blackjack75, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4Opera is always very good at the Acid Test and somehow many pages I visit that run fine on FireFox or Safari which are good at this test too have an inconsistent appearance.
So yeah, aside from bragging rights, how useful is this acid test thing?- shamess, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2That's what I've always thought. The reason I expect Firefox doesn't 100% pass that test is because a part of the test might be some really abstract functionality that Mozilla probably thought they'd be faster without, and that no one would use anyway.
- blackjack75, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4Opera is always very good at the Acid Test and somehow many pages I visit that run fine on FireFox or Safari which are good at this test too have an inconsistent appearance.
- foxtrot3, on 09/06/2008, -9/+23.1 alpha ??? Well that's just peachy. All I want them to do is get the freaking memory leaks under control like they were SUPPOSED TO DO in 3.0.
- mvent2, on 09/06/2008, -1/+9And they did.
- PikeUK, on 09/06/2008, -0/+9See: http://dotnetperls.com/Content/Browser-Memory.aspx
If you're still seeing leaks the best thing you can do is figure out why. Run the browser in safe-mode (http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Safe+Mode ), does it still happen?
If no then you have a leaking add-on, enable them one at a time until you discover which one.
If yes then you're probably hitting a site that triggers an unknown leak, keep an eye on your memory usage as you browse (perhaps using something like https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/327 ... ) and try to figure out which site causes the leak, once you've discovered it report it to bugzilla.mozilla.org and the devs can fix it. - srg13, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4Firefox is using just 18MB of ram right now, with 18 tabs open. It has been running for around five or six hours, and I have the Web Developer and Adblock Plus extensions installed.
Seriously, are you purposely trolling, or just an idiot?
- systemghost, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3cool about the video -- even more ***** awesome is that we finally get to drag tabs in and out of windows. bout damn time. i might as well uninstall chrome.
- jperson, on 09/06/2008, -6/+2What is this, Everyone-Release-A-Browser Week?
- o0mirage0o, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5Ars does a good job of not explaining whether it's good or not.
- ThreeDee912, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1O not rly?
- RyanJones, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1It should be a whole lot more interesting once the Tracer code is finished & enabled. Until then Firefox is still behind on JS performance (not by much admittedly but little things are still important these days).
- aircool, on 09/06/2008, -2/+2bleh
- silfiriel, on 09/06/2008, -4/+1Do you guys think they released this now, to prevent users switch to Chrome?
- thosiris, on 09/06/2008, -1/+0Chrome can't hold a candle to Firefox. I don't think its a project that will last all too long. It'll probably fade out like Google's Browser Sync.
- init100, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1No, I don't think so. This was likely planned for quite some time. The first alpha was released in late July, so the second alpha was due to hit around now if they plan to get Firefox 3.1 ready for release by the end of the year.
- svivian, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1No, it'll probably be a year before Chrome is properly suitable for daily use anyway. (And probably still beta.)
- ry4nsm1th, on 09/06/2008, -7/+1But does it run Crysis?
- svivian, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2Old man, old.
- ry4nsm1th, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2You're mom is old.
- svivian, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2Old man, old.
- thosiris, on 09/06/2008, -0/+0I've been using Firefox 3 alpha 2 for a couple of hours now and the differences are really nice. I'm just upset that none of my addons work yet :P
- thegreatanti, on 09/07/2008, -0/+1Get Nightly Tester tools (Google it :P)
- Robzzz, on 09/08/2008, -0/+0 1. In the Firefox address bar type “about:config”
2. By-pass the warning screen
3. Right click in the list of settings, choose New > Boolean
4. Type the phrase “extensions.checkCompatibility” and press enter
5. Choose “false” as the value
6. Restart Firefox
Simpler than installing an addon that for the most part is useless to a normal user...
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