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  • HHP2K, on 10/12/2007, -20/+74That was incredible. I want it.
    • xWillx, on 10/12/2007, -11/+69I want tidy piles.
    • unlimitedorb, on 10/12/2007, -15/+219Just stick with XGL/Beryl (Or some other window manager.)
      Very neat, but prodding icons around all day until you feel your "organized"? It just uses up too much precious time. I can see it being a neat novelty in the beginning but other than that...
    • igraham09, on 10/12/2007, -49/+251It's "LASSO" (lass-oh)... you know, like a cowboy?

      christ on a cracker that was annoying
    • igraham09, on 10/12/2007, -46/+281[edit] Ok, I stand corrected, it can be pronounced as "lass-oo" ( http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lasso )

      but that doesn't change the fact that saying "lass-oo" makes you sound like a ***** retard
    • Spiffy101, on 10/12/2007, -23/+10This would be awesome to have! I only use a few program most of the time, so I could see it being a real talking point. Huge Firefox and World of Warcraft buttons, tiny, crumpled Word shortcuts. Oh what fun.
    • ninjapirates, on 10/12/2007, -15/+225this is old regurgetated crap (vaporware)
    • generalleoff, on 10/12/2007, -29/+4You can also pronounce it lariat.
    • birkoph, on 10/12/2007, -14/+199Awesome Yes, Functional ***** no!!
    • TheIconoclast31, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24"The icon facilitates discovery, indicating additional functionality, and aims to transition from novice to expert."

      They should just say physics + desktop + menus. Looks really inefficient, despite the gazillion menus :/
    • Livert, on 10/12/2007, -7/+230What? No filenames?
    • Adma1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55Dragon Cross!!!
    • netdroid9, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21It's not useful for current systems, but it'd go far in an embedded system of some kind. DS Linux, for example, using the stylus to lasso items.
    • aten, on 10/12/2007, -24/+9more videos:
      MOV: http://www.bestsharing.com/files/ms00170174/BumpTop.mov.html
      *torrent* http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop.mov.torrent
      WMV: http://www.bestsharing.com/files/ms00170183/BumpTop.wmv.html
      *torrent* http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop.wmv.torrent
      the 20-sec Hip-Hop version:
      WMV: http://super.anand.googlepages.com/BumpTop_Madness.wmv
      *torrent* http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop_Madness.wmv.torrent
      YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUVpSY4eBCc
    • iFrank, on 10/12/2007, -4/+61@Parent:

      I disagree. The purpose of a computer is not to simulate your normally disorganized, messy real-world workspace; rather, its purpose is to allow you to be more efficient.

      We need to start thinking laterally, moving away from trying to create the real world in virtual space. Why not try to replicate the efficiency of the traditional computer desktop in the real world? That'd be something I'd digg.
    • TheWorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It looks great and really well done. Especially shown with elements like the spring. However, it's just a more complex/"what if?" way of doing what we can already do through folders, and viewing.
    • buss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Things that work in a physical space often translate very poorly to the digital space. Read: http://nickd.org/2006/08/reallife_metaphors.php
      Computers should help us be more organized, not facilitate our messiness.
    • mongrel, on 10/12/2007, -13/+4This as an add-on would make me upgrade to Vista Ultimate over Premium. Make it happen.
    • coldstatue, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26I just want that dude's cash-money pimp rings.
    • Inverno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@xWillx

      I know what you mean. I have exploding piles now. :(
    • Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -12/+5"lah-SOO" sounds idiotic.
    • matthewplante, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23I would use it ... for about four minuets ... and then never want to see it again.
    • quoquo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+8can't touch this:
      http://digg.com/tech_news/Can_t_Touch_This_The_Future_is_here_See_the_Video
    • piesforyou, on 10/12/2007, -15/+8lol, what are you guys talking about. I've never heard anyone pronounce it "lass-oh". Cowboys say it "lass-oo" too!
    • hiPpymIck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i thought it was a card trick
    • rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -15/+13Yeah, whats wrong with lass-oo? I've never heard it pronounced any other way...
    • Zoctogon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Lass-oo is the British pronunciation. Which explains why countries such as Australia, Canada etc. also pronounce it that way.

      See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_pronunciation_differences
    • Cyberdactyl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I signed up as a beta tester and to have updates about the app. . .

      Never heard from them.
    • HaltingPoint, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8While this is cool, we're still tethered with the 2D input method of the mouse. I'd personally prefer a desktop system similar to D'Fusion

      Video + Info: http://haltingpoint.blogspot.com/2006/04/dfusion-dvision-of-whats-to-come-with.html
      (Yes its my blog, but its very relevant, and I have lots of info on the system in addition to the video so at least watch it before you digg me down)

      Its kind of like a combination between this system, the Wii, and the holotable from the Millenium Falcon in Star Wars only way cooler because it has a physics engine that interacts with real world objects.
    • j_bellone, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1The video on your blog looks to have been removed. Why would you still link to it then?
    • oce222, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Do you really want this desktop? I feel like it would take me twice as long to get anything done. If I want a bunch of documents spewed all over my desk, I can have that outside of my computer.
    • superal1394, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3OSX version?
    • xister, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13My desktop would look like the trash compacter on the Death Star inside a month...
    • idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13I'm from Texas, and it's lass-oh.
      There. It's settled.
    • HaltingPoint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2j_bellone: thanks for notifying me. Didn't realize the video was down since it still showed a thumbnail. I've replaced the YouTube video with a Google Video version that works fine.

      Again, the link for the info and video on the D'Fusion system is (NOW WITH WORKING VIDEO): http://haltingpoint.blogspot.com/2006/04/dfusion-dvision-of-whats-to-come-with.html
    • Sparkster185, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Let's see how many "replies" to the first comment we can get! Seriously guys, this is getting really irritating. If your comment isn't related to the first one, don't reply to it just to get yours at the top of the page.
    • Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"What? No filenames?"

      Exactly, and for anyone screaming "it's just a prototype!", this matter would be a harder problem than it may seem to solve. If you display all names for accessibility (and not just when hovering, which would be very annoying), this system would have the filenames look very messed up with these piles.

      There's a reason icons have to be aligned to a grid after all. :-p
    • HaltingPoint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4sparkster: a lot of your grief can be directed to Digg. If they made it so you could reply to anybody within a thread and have it display that way as opposed to a purely vertical reply where you can only reply to the first person things would be a lot neater. Would also be nice if you could check and see if anybody responded to your comment ala Slashdot. But no, that would be TOO convenient.
    • EmperorAwesome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Desktop shortcuts...ew.
    • synystar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Part of the reason for thinking this would not be functional is that you are thinking in terms of a straightforward standard desktop using a mouse. Imagine a table instead, using your fingers.
    • mathew_bug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Your computer is a mess" has a new meaning.
    • jonnyboy88, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Canadian, eh?
    • dDuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hey I know this, this is that new opengl game! You gotta guess which document you're looking for you, not easy when every doc type looks the same with no filename...

      Uh, and it sucks too.
    • suicycle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it's neither lass-oo, nor lass-oh. It's a "calf rope", as any actual cowboy would tell you. As in a roping arena, not a lasso arena.
    • Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is really a gimmic, and serves no real purpose. Their main fault with this UI is the fact that it's modelled off a messy real life desk. The whole point of computers it to get away from this so you can store millions of files without the need for an office desk the size of a football field, and so you can find them with a click. Sure this is fun, but it's not practical in the least. Could you imagine what 15,000 files looks like in this app? Err, no thanks.
  • SavageOwnage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+131It is cool, but I just do not see it being useful.
    • GoatBnn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+70What good is an icon if its under another icon? Cool, but not practical for most uses at all. I like my computer more than my desk because there ARE no stacks...
    • techpimp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30I think normal desktop folders are more presentable and organized.
    • GaffleSnipe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Neat, but mmmmm, probably wouldn't use it.
    • jcronkhite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18I agree. Computers in general have become so common that I'm not sure we need to relate them to an actual desktop workspace. If this was around 10 to 15 years ago, then I think this desktop might have had "legs". At this point it just looks neat, but not very practical.
    • kirakun, on 10/12/2007, -10/+11That's what a lot of people said when the GUI was introduced. However, how many of them are still using JUST their text-based console?

      Image this becomes the Expose/Dock in Leopard. Running applications don't just live in the dock. Or that I can shuffle through all my tabs in the browser like shuffling through artworks in iTune.

      Sooner or later, you can't imagine a desktop without it. Making the digital desktop more like the actual desktop is about GUI is about.
    • Managore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@Goatbnn

      In a lot of ways, folders and directories can be considered stacks, but this novelty isn't bad, just might not be practical.
    • internethero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@kirakun

      I agree with you, we should definitely look at this in a step in the right direction. This kinda research will really take off once we realize we have to get rid of our aged rodent next to our computer. Actually, when we all saw Jeff Han, manipulating pictures in very much the same way, we were all like 'ooh' and 'aah'. It just looks a little silly here, because they used icons.
    • Tippis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ kirakun 2
      "That's what a lot of people said when the GUI was introduced. However, how many of them are still using JUST their text-based console?"

      While not exactly "just text-based", my experience is that the more proficient a user is, the more he'll stick to his keyboard to get stuff done -- be it by using hotkeys or recording macros or whathaveyou.

      My other experience is that, the more organised they are, the less icons they have strewn all over the desktop. In other words, the ones who'd benefit from this technology are the ones who wouldn't use it anyway.

      YMMV, of course, but based on my experience, this looks like something no-one would use other than as a novelty: the ones who *can* use it won't, because they already use better methods; the ones who *should* use it won't, because it goes against their way of working.
    • Midnightbrewer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"That's what a lot of people said when the GUI was introduced. However, how many of them are still using JUST their text-based console?

      Image this becomes the Expose/Dock in Leopard. Running applications don't just live in the dock. Or that I can shuffle through all my tabs in the browser like shuffling through artworks in iTune."

      Unfortunately, this metaphor breaks down very quickly when dealing with extremely large groups of files. I deal with hundreds of files in an average animation project (image sequences alone add up quickly), and having a virtual desktop depicting such massive amounts of data would be more overwhelming than the current window/folder/list paradigm.

      With tens of thousands of files on your computer, you couldn't solve organization with just one desktop space, either (your stacks would require a bit more of a spherical view, not to mention a fly function.) If you had one desktop for your documents, one for your music collection, etc., you're talking about the hassle of memorizing multiple virtual spaces, each looking identical except for the piles contained therein. Suddenly, you're not just dealing with piles and desktops, you're dealing with rooms. Heck, why not bring in filing cabinets while we're at it? Microsoft already tried this paradigm way back in the day with their hardly missed "Microsoft Bob," and it flopped then, too. As many others have said, there's no need to try to complicate matters by simulating the real world.

      In the end, the user spends more time trying to wrap their head around how they're supposed to relate to this virtual paradigm that just teaching them how to navigate a directory structure ends up taking less time. A good interface, yes; intuitiveness, yes; but don't shackle yourself with such narrow-minded, not to mention arbitrary, limitations.
    • Hypermarkalan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@internet

      Yeah, but with Hahn's version you don't have any type of external tool getting between you and the actual data. That's the real problem, in that the tools we use to access our data are so contrived and antiquated that we need a whole new paradigm to access our data. They're using a stylus, and we all know that's not the way to go.

      @Tippis
      "While not exactly "just text-based", my experience is that the more proficient a user is, the more he'll stick to his keyboard to get stuff done -- be it by using hotkeys or recording macros or whathaveyou."

      You're absolutely right. Those power-users have intuitively discovered that the more points of contact your fingers have with your navigational tool the quicker you'll at executing commands or accessing data. Hahn's prototype might not be what causes a paradigm shift, but whatever causes it will be something similar to his machine. This thing isn't that much different than a mouse with an interesting GUI.
    • internethero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Hypermarkalan

      Obviously I said "a step in the (sorry for typo) right direction" for a reason. This design is of course not a usable end product. Aside from that ridiculous over the top physics crap, this is obviously not the way to go. We would want to move things around with our hands, so far I agree with you. But a styli-less UI is just not going to happen. Imagine literally a virtual desktop (flat surface or tilted a bit) where you will move your documents around with your hands, compare etc. and use your stylus mark and take notes.
    • shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Quicksilver (mac) / Launchy (windows)
      http://quicksilver.blacktree.com/
      http://www.launchy.net/
      Get those, you really dont need to use a file manager if you use them correctly.
  • mybeat, on 10/12/2007, -50/+5with this you would have lots n lots of piles of crap everywhere.forgetting where you put your files ,and to remember you would have to brake each that file pile tower whatever the name is.which would took time, and think of 1000+ pics mp3 text documents all in same place , in piles.w00h00 that would be insane to sort using this method
    the idea maybe good for some or this could be made like an add-on
    personally i am a fan of command line, so that's not for me.

    • brentris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+53please use periods.
    • SleepJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10He used three :)
    • mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16@mybeat:

      Holy crap. The internet thanks you in advance for never, ever writing another "paragraph" again. Please.
    • CatalystDM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8he actually used four, and only one of them was in a place where a period was needed :-O
    • BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3How can a person with your poor typing skills be a fan of doing anything but *looking at* the console. I can't imagine anything you input would have a result.
    • skypedownload, on 11/25/2007, -0/+0skype free download at http://skypefreedownload.ekyx.com
  • se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3The best application of this that i could imagine would be to use this as your wallpaper. Seeing as I con't have more that 10-15 icons on my desktop anyway, it would work great.
    • olik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's the difference between google and internet directories (remember?). When something works so well you don't have to think about it, you won't ever miss your old ways.
    • BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually directories are damn useful if you don't know the specifics of the search. I don't know if there are any good high-tech directories that keep out all the garbage sites though.

      I like the idea of being able to just see what sites (sorted by some kind of multi-ranking system) are located in the category "Arts/Medium/Drawing."
  • Ryosen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+60I have enough crap in piles on my real desk, I don't need an OS to make it any worse
  • kingfoot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8no i dont have to see it cause ive already seen it. old. very cool. but unpractical other than simple pleasure.
  • tim507, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10this is real old..i saw this many months ago...none the less still very cool..
  • MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3all these physics based programs have everything seem too heavy.
    • monomal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11When the fan in my tablet PC comes on, will everything blow around?
    • CatalystDM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5and just how heavy should an icon be?
    • Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"and just how heavy should an icon be?"

      Well preferrably they shouldn't have a mass or be subject to laws of physics at all. :-p
      Remove UI complexity by removing that stuff.
    • mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1on the contrary, the point of the exercise is to have papers act like they're on a desk. Giving the papers "weight" and "volume" is what makes this unique. There's all sorts of stuff regular icons don't do... they're just 2D pictures, on another picture of a desktop... you can't "tip" them or anything... you can pile all the icons on your windows desktop up, but you won't gain anything from it but bleeding eyes.... there's not enough of the information your eyes get from "real world" papers... the tricky part about computers is that you have to purpose to put all that data back INTO the system... and we're only starting to have the technology to do that.
  • yeahbuddy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2So, wasn't this supposed to be in OS X? What happened? Did Stevie drop the ball?
  • kkDonut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Its gary's mod for paper!
  • 9146fan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Wow. I left a Tidy Pile in my pants when I saw that.
  • olik, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1'Gimme Now!
  • benijuana, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1the pile widgets looked like a robot
  • TheCheeba, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3I can't believe I havent seen this before. This is the coolest thing I've seen in si xmonths.
  • monergism, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Tested this stuff back in 2000 on Win2K. Until it responds to touch, it's useless/slow/combersome.
  • DeFex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I wish they made it so when you are on a deleting spree, you could smash them into each other and they blow up differently depending what kind of file they are. and when you delete a whole pile of files they could blow up quite spectacularly.
    • CatalystDM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1now THAT is something I would use...
  • jonesyhahaha, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Looks like more work than I care to deal with, but definitely cool nonetheless. And it's LASS-OH, not LASS-OO.
  • speedygonzalez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8anyone remember this from a long time ago? maybe some old diggers can refresh my memory as to if this is the first time this has been here. haven't seen this in a while, but ya, its def. very kewl. they're be some linux distros that will have these capabilities out soon.
  • OrderSponge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This strikes me as something that would work much better for a PDA or tablet PC, enabling it to be used sort of like a folder or binder; use different desktops or "partitions" to indicate sections and then sorting documents on them. Probably would work so well for a desktop or laptop that's going to be extremely multipurpose, unless, maybe, you could enable it for certain directories or something like that.
  • metajoe, on 10/12/2007, -9/+9I could have sworn I've seen this already on Digg..
    • tim507, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11you did. so did i.
    • ufia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9You know you spend too much time on the internets when you notice Digg duplicates.
  • ekoshyun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If you're messy to begin with, this will not help in my opinion.
  • theblt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Yeah, this is old as dirt. Thought I saw this last year.
    • vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7And if by last year you mean 2003, yes you are probably correct.
  • CanYou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27Uhm, who's the frigtard at the very beginning wearing Vanilla Ice'$ Ice? Nothing says quality GUI like some gawdy J-Lo bling.
  • Dolomite, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2just as slick today as it was when we first saw this on digg a year ago.
  • sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4what? We have to see this again... bloody hell.
  • Trax78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Nice bling bling.
  • justconnor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1looks fun more than anything else!
  • GorillaButler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's cute and could possibly have some great applications, but the developers are deluding themselves if they think this makes anything more efficient.
  • rtphokie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You've told us it's "awesom" even "freakin awesom" and also told us that we "have" to see it.

    It could be the cure for common cold and I'd have to hate it based on the submitter's boasting.
    • BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually submitter thought it was Awsome.
  • mixplate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2its cool and all, but terminal shell power is better.
  • RoflMyWaffle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Seriously, why would you need this. This is for the kinda people who can't bear to clean their workspace and insist its easier to find things when theres no sense of organization. With this, the only form of organization i see is the pile, which is more intelligently replaced by FOLDERS on LOGICAL desktops.
    • jswim99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree; it seems like this would require you to spend more time maintaining your computer, and keeping things organized, instead of using it productively.
  • aurath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would like to try it for a while. Is there any kind of public release?
  • djm91, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1in what way does this make it easier to organize files?

    its a cool idea and the TECHNOLOGY will probably get somewhere.. maybe not just this "application"
  • doublem9876, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4so old
  • antechinus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A retrograde UI. There is more work involved in arranging and searching for items.
  • mr1337, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Dupe. And not even in the right category. There's a new section called 'Videos' here on Digg. Use it.
  • zero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3great now if I can only get my secretary to come clean up my virtual desktop for me
  • GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo33QeODN58
  • toyotaboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3cool, but definately saw this on digg already. we need the wii remote to be integrated into an OS.. the remote can be a bulldozer that shoves my files in the corner.
    • netdroid9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought of that, but the Wiimote is far to inaccurate. Great for distance stuff, bad for precision stuff like this.
  • rdwing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Ancient dupe
  • kanningt, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0OLD OLD OLD! Stop reposting this crap, you fools. If you're new to digg then read back until 1998 and GET WITH THE PROGRAM, please. Spare us the constant reposting of the same old things.
  • icedevil6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I viewed the same video a while back, I wonder if they have made any significant progress.
    • jambarama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a neat idea, but the biggest problem is this: if you have a dozen PDFs, how the heck can you figure out what is in them? If it is just through names, this isn't any better than existing desktops IMO. Not to mention what about folders? How do you deal with open applications? Cool but not useful.
    • icedevil6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Friend of mine pointed that out to me while we watched. Perhaps tool tips for selected documents? Or perhaps an advanced screenshot representation as the icon. If they were intelligent enough to fabricate such a system I find it hard to imagine that they can't cook up a simple remedy for a problem like that.
  • everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1folders works well enough for me, though this is neat looking.
  • Kragnerac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The guy made a theme song for it, too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUVpSY4eBCc
  • Aurarch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OH THE HUMANITY
  • pulpjedi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4This is the most absolutely useless, wortheless and unintuitive interface I've ever seen. The last thing I want to do is go rummaging through virtual clutter and up-side down file icons. Just lame.
  • easy4lif, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3all my tidy piles would show is porn
  • VirtualCtor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1What would be really awesome was if they could create an interface to put the documents into "folders" with "labels", and a way to put those "folders" into something like a "file cabinet". If they could do that, I'd be sold on the concept.
  • Antimatt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I can understand the vaporware comments here, but I think there is some real merit in this. This could potentially put the entire file system on the desktop in a manner that feels more natural to the inexperienced computer user, or for the sidetracked multitasker, such as myself. The visual cues would be very helpful for me, personally. To see a demo of an alternative to conventional directory structure and file management is pretty exciting.
  • getliquified, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0bling bling
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