- KillerJ59J, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Even though this has been said elsewhere, PLEASE don’t run peer-to-peer download data through Tor as it can’t handle the network traffic. If people continue to do this then Tor will start banning such traffic which will badly impact legitimate use (as indicated below)."
Can't you wait for i2p to get more advanced? - bkaraff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No wonder Tor has slowed to the point of being unusable.
How about you NOT listen to bands that sell out to RIAA labels?
*I am a musician and I support filesharing* - joe_mama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1*I am a musician and I support filesharing*
Send me some music, mr.musician. - slowspin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I am a filesharer and I support musicians.
- joe_mama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I am RIAA, and I support file sharers and musicians.
- Badtouch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That should be on a T-shirt slo'
- ppflea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I am RIAA, and I support file sharers and musicians."...lol!
- trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Nope, you won't be completely anonymous unless you send all traffic through tor which then that greatly reduces the speed. I just use the tracker through tor and still allow the traffic to go through normally. Then I use peer guardian to block any of that if it's from a bad source. If anyone else has a better way with what we have now, please let me know.
- kortiz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"I am a filesharer and I support musicians."
lmao - r00ted, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Tor is not for p2p...
no digg - zelig, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0I am woman, watch me grow
- Bismillah, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Phhh, thats old and a dupe. No digg for you. Do a search next time. You ruin digg.
- Backlash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1--- zelig --- I just don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
- pc-scene.com, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Nope, you won't be completely anonymous unless you send all traffic through tor"
You will not be completely anonymous if you even do that. Tor isn't completely anonymous. Whatever you do with tor can be ultimately traced back to you. (Although it may be extremely hard) - ZeRoRaVeN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3DO you read what it says? It says tor is not suited for azeurus..I use TOR and it is VERY slow already...you're just encourgaging people to do that..idiot..
- BugMeNot2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I use SafePeer.
- anagami, on 07/02/2008, -0/+0neat.
two words: Creative Commons - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There is no such thing as 100% invisible. There will always be a way to be tracked....
- ReRunx5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0don't do this! use SafePeer and PeerGuardian
- loeakaodas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I use SafePeer and PeerGuardian
- Spazkake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is there any way to do this with uTorrent?
- peerk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0LOL, bunch of noobz.
If you wanna be anonymous just encrypt your ip addy. - wheels999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Could someone kindly post some links with information on SafePeer and PeerGuardian (don't they do the same thing?). The sourceforge page for SafePeer has zero documentation on it.
- elusive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Jesus christ -- If you are going to do some nefarious downloading just go to a wireless cafe. The Tor network is not setup for this kind of traffic. *****. No digg.
- VinCenT13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0When i'm pirating i'm so at a wireless cafe or hooked onto a neighbors unsecured wireless connection, or do direct uploads and downloads behind an anon proxy : ). If your gunna use a program use peerguardian.
- eschatonik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"I use SafePeer and PeerGuardian"
How redundant. And repetative. And redundant. - joe_mama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"If you wanna be anonymous just encrypt your ip addy"
lol, encrypt your ip adress, i hope you are being sarcastic. - spyres, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No dig. Abusing Tor this way just makes you a prime *****.
- vertigoblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0my azureus just has an option in advanced, when you right click on the file your sharing, that you can check tor on and off and select some other networks to share on.
i didn't read the article because abusing tor is wrong but i thought i would just throw that in because i can. - PStamatiou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0hey guys, if this article scares you don't worry .... I'm in the middle of writing "Part 3: Azureus Anonymity"
until then, take care - rc_collins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Sweet, now I can anonymously download at .01 kbs.
Damn I hate BitTorrent, it is never over 5 kbps.
--dan - eatnumber1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
This is not entirely true, because when you have this set up, it sends the initial requests (HTTP or otherwise) throught the proxy server, but then opens up it’s own dynamic port in order to send data, and in order for it to be sending that data through Tor, it has to send it through the proxy server WHICH IT IS NOT DOING. So, although the initial connection is going through Tor, the actual data is not
You can check this by starting up a download and running a program called cPorts which tels you all active network connections, the dest ip/port, and the origin ip/port and you can see that your client actually sends the data over your IP, not through Tor - eatnumber1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0a small correction... i am using bitcomet which opens the dynamic port, as do most BitTorrent apps, but it seems Azureus sends peer communications through the proxy server.
In short, it WILL work on azureus - PacoBell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@peerk: Speaking of neophytes, get a clue =P
- godmode, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"..and one more thing"
When the hell did Steve Jobs turn into Columbo. - godmode, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0oops wrong story haha
- bitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Tor is not intended for filesharing, as it has been stated repeatedly using it for such is considered abuse.
However it is perfectly fine to use i2p for filesharing and it does real invisible bittorrenting.
Though it requires you to run a i2p router and regular bittorrents are not supported. Yet it is still far better than depending on peerguardian, protowall, safepeer, and other such filtering methods that do not provide nearly enough real protection.
With i2p your address is still known to other peers, but they don't know what your doing, if you are merely running a router or only checking the forums, hosts websites or whatever.
With p2p there is a near absolute 1:1 likelyhood that a ip address is correct and that they or someone using their network is doing something illegal.
With i2p filesharing there is a 1:x chance that a ip address could be involved, however it'd be very hard to prove. In this case x being the number of total online i2p peers. The larger the network the greater the x factor becomes.
So far at most 5 percent of the network runs i2phex. Another unknown percent periodically does invisible bittorrenting over the network and another unknown percent actively hosts websites over it.
At the moment at the very most depending on what kind of activity there is a 1:10 chance of a ip address being involved, with a very large amount of uncertainty.
Tor does not even provide that much protection and is rather leaky in it's method. It is not vulnerable to cPorts or other simular methods.
Even if you think you know a certain peer might be doing something, can you prove it? If you think you can, then how?
Considering how many millions of filesharers are online, if just 0.25 percent were to join i2p, that'd be more than enough to provide a massive x factor to the network.
Basically all that the network would really need to become big and gain an massive amount of content would be for one decent sized bittorrent group to move to it. - nacs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What a great way to abuse the Tor system.
- NO digg. - flaming_monkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"...completely anonymous"
"The RIAA will never find you."
*sigh*
In the words of Zim "Of course it will, you hideous fool!" - fli7e, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You, sir, are an asshat.
Great way to abuse the network.
NO FU**ING DIGG. - Lesli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0haha! Asshat. You just don't hear that term enough. /derail
Anyway, no dig. Just because you _can_ do something doesn't always mean that you should. - baaron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"asshat" is the funniest thing ive heard all day
- LycoLoco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wish I could take my digg back...
- joe_mama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0RIAA has hired 3l33t h4x0r, you can run but you can't hide!
- flex411, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Not that I believe it should be used for torrent, it clearly says on there website
"browsing and publishing, instant messaging, IRC, SSH, and other applications that use the TCP protocol."
"Tor: An anonymous Internet communication system"
communication is a broad term, who are you to say, "TOR is not for bit torrent (whinny voice)"
Where does it say not to p2p, or to use irc just dont download thru it? maybe i havnt read the docs? - G-RaZoR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yes, because we all know that BitTorrent is mainly used for pirating music.... MPAA would seem like a more likely choice.
- Knots, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i am the walrus, i support the eggmen
- PStamatiou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wrote an article explaining this one... so you can actually follow it.
http://digg.com/software/Part_3:_Azureus_Anonymity_*not_dupe,_Original - PacoBell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@LycoLoco: You can. Try looking at your profile sometime...
- keksovkeks, on 01/21/2008, -0/+1About use proxy and anonymous surfing http://vprivatenetwork.com/index.php?action=config


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