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How to migrate your Domain Email to Google... and maintain Your Address
dmiessler.com — We can now move our domain email to Google and keep our addresses. Enter Google’s best-kept secret — Google Apps. Here's how...
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- dimmerswitch, on 11/15/2007, -1/+20If you get page not found, try:
http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/how-to-migrate-yo ...- verge, on 11/15/2007, -1/+5thanks ds! first time i've seen this happen on dmiessler. the submit was 12:40A, revision was @1A, appears links were not updated. thank you, again. i'd certainly change if i could.
- hackmyballs, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1whaaa????
no ruby, php or mysql?
what kind of pages can you develop???
- caluca, on 11/15/2007, -20/+5I hardly use Gmail because I have far too many addresses and I have always needed Outlook. Uhhmmm still not sure...Google seeing all my emails ?
- zspeed78, on 11/15/2007, -0/+7I forward all my gmail accounts into one account. simple, and great.
- knuckles, on 11/15/2007, -0/+7I can vouch for zspeed. I moved all my various accounts under GMail with my own domain name and it works great. The spam filter alone was worth the effort of moving everything over to Google.
- jamesspelt, on 11/15/2007, -3/+36Best kept secret? I think not...
- PerryMason, on 11/15/2007, -0/+4You're not wrong. They've got this search function which I reckon hardly anyone knows about.
- Moly, on 11/15/2007, -3/+2OMG! Burried! This is such old news I can barely stand it. The day that Gmail for your domain came out I did this. That was what - over a year ago?
- Jeffler, on 11/15/2007, -6/+50Uhh, doesn't google show you how to do this already? Why do we need someone else posting what they tell us in the first place?
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -0/+5I'm pretty sure it's well-advertised on the site. Click the "business solutions" link on the homepage, for one. Or just visit www.google.com/a. It's pretty straightforward. I've used Google Apps on at least three different domains, and all were trivially easy to set up.
- Carv, on 11/15/2007, -8/+20How did this blogspam get so many diggs? I figured most people this is relevant to would know this. It's not exactly a secret.
- bearsinthesea, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1Actually I was looking all over google's pages last night for this info, but couldn't find it.
I also read something hinting google might host your web page. Is this one of their services yet?
- bearsinthesea, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1Actually I was looking all over google's pages last night for this info, but couldn't find it.
- qubitz, on 11/15/2007, -0/+5Even if you have multiple domains and email addresses google apps mail is nice because you just point your MX records to google, and can receive all your email in one place.
- zspeed78, on 11/15/2007, -2/+5Google tells you exactly how to do this.
- rugby148, on 11/15/2007, -9/+1One big problem with Google's solution is that you can not setup multiple domains (i.e. mydomain.com, mydomain.net, mydomain.info or myotherdomain.com) within the same account.
Within our infrastructure I have email addresses from 11 or so domains and most of my users from 3-5. From what I have seen of the Google app, this is just not possible.
I definitely love the idea and cost savings on licensing though!- Sabotage, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3Yea you can. I just did it myself, its called Domain Aliases
- Otto, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3Uhhh.. Yes, you can do just that. They have domain aliases right in the config page. No limit on number of domains that I can see. I have 4 in there.
- knuckles, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2I have 2 domains under my account. Easy as pie.
- happytedium, on 11/15/2007, -1/+6Google tells you how to do all of this anyway, but Google Apps really is awesome. I registered a domain name (fairly cheap), set up a google apps account, redirected my MX records to google and now have free IMAP email/gmail (up to 100 accounts too) with my own domain name. XD
- KevenM, on 11/15/2007, -5/+2Old news. I've set it up for several businesses. Great offering either way. If you haven't heard of it, give it a try.
- imgonnafart, on 11/15/2007, -7/+3I'm thinking about a Google tattoo
- Yeago, on 11/15/2007, -1/+6Or you can just use POP and mess with the reply-to settings.
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -2/+2POP is a truly evil thing.
- mrjit, on 11/15/2007, -0/+4I've been using Google Apps for awhile. Pretty nice, especially considering I'm hosting my domain for free (using a freedns site for DNS). But, they don't touch the features at all. I don't think there has been any changes/updates (at least not noticeable on the free end) the entire year I've used it. And it's extremely void of feautres. I was hoping at some point they'd do CMS intregration, etc.
- binarymelon, on 11/15/2007, -2/+1...
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1That's true for the free version. The paid version (which, for a business tool, is stupidly cheap) offers a lot of APIs so you can do single sign-on and at least some amount of integration with other solutions. No, you're not going to get the mountains of features you'd get from a dedicated CMS that's specific to your business, but even the free version offers some great tools that are really essential for all businesses (email, calendars, etc).
- vvaduva, on 11/15/2007, -2/+4This stuff is years old...not news, and Google's writeup is pretty straight forward on how to do it. I don't need a blog to explain to me how to do this; and it doesn't even explain it very well!
- SovereignGFC, on 11/15/2007, -2/+9Google just owns, that's all there is to it. And you people who are like "OLD" have to remember not everyone has the command of information you do. I consider myself pretty web-savvy and computer literate but I've never heard of this procedure, although I did know about Google Apps, I didn't know it did this! Cool article.
- expatcatalyst, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Hey I'm 51 and you are spot on! lol
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1Uh, if you knew about Google Apps, you knew about this. Migrating your @yourdomain.com email to use Gmail is probably the single most significant feature of Google Apps.
- mediaroots, on 11/15/2007, -3/+7wait. how is this a secret? this is blatent blog spam, with stupid instructions
- potterboy, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3Just a heads up: This doesn't work with exchange based email.
- raccettura, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Google's imap is just to damn slow. Not to mention the silly hierarchy [gmail] is just annoying. So close, but I couldn't bear to make the switch.
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2What's slow about Google's IMAP? Of course it'll take a while the first time when you have to download 8000 messages, but I get messages immediately with the right settings (with a little "push" hack, my phone gets test messages within a second or two of my having sent it)
- TypeEE, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1hierarchy? If you are using Thunderbird, there is an advance setting under "Server settings->Advanced", change IMAP server directory from blank to [Gmail], then you won't see [gmail] again. It'll be flat like regular inbox
- jimmyJMs, on 11/15/2007, -2/+2Lame. This doesn't even go into how to setup identical addresses in your Google Apps page, change your MX records, wait for propagation and confirm that everything moves over like it should have. I know how to set it up initially, but not how to do a seamless transfer, which is what the title infers.
- michaelallen, on 11/15/2007, -2/+0only thing i don't like about it is, like rugby said above, you can't have multiple domains under the same account. i have a variety of websites that i use personalized email addresses for, and like to be able to view them all under the same account. the best solution i have come up with so far is to forward all email from those domains to gmail, then add the account i want to "send as" to gmail. the only problem with that approach, is google is TOO standards compliant, and adds a "send from" header which shows gmail.com. if i could just figure out how to get rid of that, i could have the perfect email solution for me.
- knuckles, on 11/15/2007, -2/+1Off topic but somewhat related, I'd like to use Gmail to retrieve email from a POP account which is apparently in beta testing and not available to the general public.
http://jimstips.com/gmailtips/gmail_tip_59_new_fea ...
If I'm wrong please fill me in, I'd love to do this.- knuckles, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3Ok, well, I just checked and it seems to work with POP so I'm really behind in up-to-date news... bury me.
- binarymelon, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3You should be able to use POP, it has been available for quite some time now. Even better they have just recently added IMAP support.
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1Not what he was saying; both are Gmail features. Just go to the "Accounts" tab in your gmail settings, and the third option should be "get mail from other accounts".
- asantos, on 11/15/2007, -4/+3This is SO-very old.
- Crath, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1tell me about it, i used this at least 1 and a half years ago, noticed it sucked, and stopped using it
its very old news
- Crath, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1tell me about it, i used this at least 1 and a half years ago, noticed it sucked, and stopped using it
- doublsh0t, on 11/15/2007, -2/+6Don't forget the one major disadvantage: privacy.
- dalaeth, on 11/15/2007, -0/+6Yeah, because your unencrypted emails flying through 20-30 connection points to get from point A to point B is very private.
- bearsinthesea, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Right, but as long as they aren't storing them all, they only have access to one at a time. Your entire mailbox on google is much more valuable, and more of a security/privacy risk.
There are plugins for firefox to do gmail encryption, but getting anyone else you email with to use encryption is hard. Google shouldhave integrated encryption.
- bearsinthesea, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Right, but as long as they aren't storing them all, they only have access to one at a time. Your entire mailbox on google is much more valuable, and more of a security/privacy risk.
- zydeco, on 11/15/2007, -0/+5...crossing through a few dozen AT&T secret closets on the way...
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3Every bit on the internet will pass through AT&T at some point - they have more infrastructure than you can possibly imagine.
Not to mention that any email provider will have to give in to a subpoena, including your IT department at work with the Exchange server.- fak3r, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1True that, that's why ATT need to be held accountable so others won't roll over for the NSA and give up our rights for us. Follow along at home kids, they're your rights (for now!) It's ongoing, plenty to read and learn, then contact your representatives and start screaming:
http://www.eff.org/cases/att
- fak3r, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1True that, that's why ATT need to be held accountable so others won't roll over for the NSA and give up our rights for us. Follow along at home kids, they're your rights (for now!) It's ongoing, plenty to read and learn, then contact your representatives and start screaming:
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3Every bit on the internet will pass through AT&T at some point - they have more infrastructure than you can possibly imagine.
- dalaeth, on 11/15/2007, -0/+6Yeah, because your unencrypted emails flying through 20-30 connection points to get from point A to point B is very private.
- danielrm26, on 11/15/2007, -1/+6Yeah, 350 diggs in 30 minutes because everyone already knew about it. ;)
- scottc, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2I host email for thousands of my clients' domains, but I moved my company domains to Gmail in April 06 and have never looked back. It is far superior to what we sell. The spam filtering is nearly perfect and if your domain is on a shared web server then moving your mail to Gmail will solve the occasional spam blacklist problem that happens when one of the other domains on your server sends spam.
- damndj, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1Been using this for awhile and love it.
Any news on whether or not you'll be able to sync your address book and calender entries with Outlook? I see there's some third-party applications to do this, but I would love to see Google offer it themselves. If they want to market this to businesses, it seems like a no brainer. - bashturd, on 11/15/2007, -0/+4Absolutely love the service, ran my own email server for years, switching to google for mail hosting was much much better. The fact that it is free makes it even better, though I would happily pay for the service.
- gfxgeek, on 11/13/2008, -5/+4Wow, please stop digging this. I have 2 personal domains set up on this for almost 2 years now. Maybe I should find an article on awesom HTML coding. I bet it makes it to the front page.
- fak3r, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1Yeah, why don't you cover HTML 4.0 and the use of CSS rollovers! (then have a link on yr site to the real article on w3c) I swear that's all you need to do on digg, well maybe that and something like "The Best List of the Top 10 TEN Ubuntu Links with Ajax you'll see this year!! [PIC]"
- dijital, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1Obviously this is new to the people digging it... Why don't you just IGNORE it instead of taking the time to let everybody know that YOU have already seen this. Morons...
- livejamie, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3i just forward my mail to my gmail account and use aliases, seems pretty much the same
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1It's not even close, but I suppose the end result is effective enough. FYI, you can have your Gmail account automatically grab your messages from other places via POP3, so you don't need to bother with the forwarding.
- livejamie, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3why isn't it even close? what's the difference?
- Firehed, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1It's not even close, but I suppose the end result is effective enough. FYI, you can have your Gmail account automatically grab your messages from other places via POP3, so you don't need to bother with the forwarding.
- speakerfordead, on 11/15/2007, -2/+1On my http://www.wheelingparanormal.com domain I have the mail set up for all the users. It is a Godsend and very simple to set-up and use. The biggest plus is on the user side. Since most are used to webmail they don't have to be trained it setting up Pop3 and such on the desktop. Big plus for admins.
- FlohEinstein, on 11/15/2007, -3/+1Not a word about the possibility to use the 30 day trial of the improved pay-version to copy everything from your old imap-account, all in all old news, so dugg down
- chrisbarr, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1I checked this out a while ago for my small web design business, but I was sure it used to cost money. It's free so I'm switching to this immediately and going to try and get all my clients sites onto this as well.
- akash8m, on 11/15/2007, -2/+1http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answ ...
Here they have instructions for specific domain e-mail transfer. - akash8m, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Here they have instructions for specific domain e-mail transfer.
http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answ ... - dshah, on 11/15/2007, -2/+1burried for not-so-secret! I am using it since ages
- gdgi, on 11/15/2007, -2/+3the question that no one's asking is 'why the ***** would you do this?'
seriously, you want google (and whoever else) reading, storing, and worst of all - commercializing - your personal communication?
Seems that everyone forgets why google does everything it does - and the answer isn't just because their nice nerds. they do it so they can continue to make billions of dollars off of your personal information, whether it's searches, email or otherwise.
Why anyone would willingly submit to this I just don't understand.- bearsinthesea, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1because it is easy?
we are those who would trade some privacy to save time/work/money?
- bearsinthesea, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1because it is easy?
- timeshifter, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1The paid version for small business is $50 per year per user account. So that means it'd be $150 / year for tom@domain.com, dick@domain.com and harry@domain.com ?
- darnit, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2FTA:
"Silly Google uptime
Silly Google speed"
....wtf? - iViper, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1Shame you can't have HTML signatures though
- fak3r, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1Oooo, sorry, slow close. We would have accepted "shame you can send HTML". You see HTML is meant to be viewed in a browser, not within an email client, regardless of if it's checked online. If someone has some HTML to show you, they need to send a link. Same thing with 2Meg pictures of your last party pix, don't send them as attachments....repeat after me: SMTP IS NOT A TRANSFER PROTOCOL!
- dijital, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Um... Actually... SMTP = Simple Mail TRANSFER PROTOCOL
- rodgy, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1A secret? Not quite. I've been using it for a year now. It's been widely advertised. Many people use it and suggest it.
- Klink258, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1Some inaccurate info in the article:
"SSL support on both incoming and outgoing mail"
Wrong. TLS is used for the STMP server.
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answ ...
Or at least, that's what it is for standard Gmail. I don't know about Google apps... - djmaverick, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1I switched all of my domains. It works great. I don't know if it is a "secret."
- ycohain, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1I used to work for a domain name registrar and it's a big fear over there that one day google will start sending lots of traffic to their apps for domain names and they'll take away all the revenue my company used to make for email solutions and starter page websites since google's products are much better in quality and are absolutely free.
- fak3r, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1I think that fear is well justified. If you look at how well Google does with Spam filtering alone they win. I've had the same main email address for 8 years, I prob get 1-2 spams a week in my inbox, with an untold amount (currently over 10,000) in my Spam folder. I used to run my own mailserver, with its own spam fighting abilities and webmail via SSL for checking, but it was just too much to keep up; Google has struck gold on this.
Having said that, I can't believe some other company out there wouldn't be able to duplicate the spam filtering, and then just improve upon the email UI (Roundcube anyone?) I thought Zimbra would be this one, but they're going more for corporate and sm business, plus now Yahoo owns them and will brush them to the back of the bus quickly (sorry, my confidence in them is gone).
- fak3r, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1I think that fear is well justified. If you look at how well Google does with Spam filtering alone they win. I've had the same main email address for 8 years, I prob get 1-2 spams a week in my inbox, with an untold amount (currently over 10,000) in my Spam folder. I used to run my own mailserver, with its own spam fighting abilities and webmail via SSL for checking, but it was just too much to keep up; Google has struck gold on this.
- fak3r, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2change this: "How to migrate your Domain Email to Google... and maintain Your Address"
to this: "How to get 100s of diggs...post old instructions and include Google in the title!" - pengas, on 11/15/2007, -2/+1Best kept secret?
I have got to be kidding me.
Dugg down for the unnecessary marketing angle.
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