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Photosynth Technology Preview is here!!
labs.live.com — The Photosynth Technology Preview is a taste of the newest - and, we hope, most exciting - way to view photos on a computer. Our software takes a large collection of photos of a place or an object, analyzes them for similarities, and then displays the photos in a reconstructed three-dimensional space, showing you how each one relates to the next.
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- JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7(more) direct link:
http://labs.live.com/photosynth/view.html?collection=sanmarco/index1.sxs
System Requeriments:
Operating System: Only Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista RC1 or later are supported at this time.
Web Browser: IE6 or IE7; we hope to support other browsers in the future.
Memory: 256 MB of memory is a bare minimum; 1GB recommended.
Disk: This technology preview uses almost no disk space. The ActiveX control is less than 5MB in size, and no local disk storage is used when the code is running.
Graphics: We have tested Photosynth on graphics cards that are "Vista Aero Ready". This includes: support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum), and 32 bits per pixel. If you want to find out whether your card is suitable, the Vista Upgrade Advisor tool will tell you. Photosynth may run on cards that do not meet this requirement, but performance may be poor and functionality may be impaired.- sztuka, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7This is unbelievably cool. The most amazing part is how little CPU cycles it uses. I have a 3Ghz P4, 1GB mem, 7800 GTX 256MB vid card and the CPU usage hardly moves when I zip around the screen zooming in and out of the images. When opening and using my 8MP raw images in Photoshop and what not, and even much more compressed images the CPU hit is very high. I know they must be using some amazing compression tech here as to speed it up but the quality of the images are very good IMO and the zooming is very smooth and quick. Check it out you will be impressed.
- PJBonoVox, on 10/12/2007, -8/+45"Web Browser: IE6 or IE7; we hope to support other browsers in the future."
Well, I'll have a look 'in the future' then. - thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2@sztuka
Probably because it's all stored in your ram. - MeatBiProduct, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5that MS firefox stuff has to be fake. looking at that site it looks crummy and has bill gates head on it - we all know that MS doesn't put bill gates head as a part of the design.
- dose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I think you may be onto something MeatBiProduct.
- Axim, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3seriously i love how there are free plugins that do the same thing better what a retarded little scheme
- dizzybastard, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Flickr + photosynth + google earth = imagine the possibilities
- LoungeActx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This is pretty cool, but it took it's toll on my work computer performance-wise. Sucks that I can't go home and play with it on my PowerMac and the only option I have to view it is on this piece of a computer.
- SweetyCheeks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0@PJBonoVox
Very nice come-back! :-) - headswine, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3I refuse to support anything that is Microsoft only. Or MAC only or Linux Only for that matter.
- sophiaperennis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Windows XP SP2 and Vista Only. Too bad it doesn't run on Win 2000 at work.
- alwaysmc2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Note how the images start out blurry and then sharpen. I think that's the WMI (Windows Media Image) format doing it's magic. (As opposed to how JPEGs download from top to bottom, WMI starts out blurry and gets sharper.)
- meatshoes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6It could be, or perhaps it's just how their Seadragon (http://labs.live.com/photosynth/whatis/seadragon.html) technology has implemented image refinement on all formats?
Anyway, this is SO much cooler than the Virtual Earth update they launched a couple of days ago - I haven't seen one giant billboard overlord yet! - ClintEastman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Yes that is Seadragon at work and i have to say it's impressive!
There as some REALLY tall billboards in Virtual Earth! - CannotRslvSym, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I believe that they're leveraging the features of the Windows Media Photo format in combination with the technology in Seadragon to provide their image scaling.
- hiscity, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1!!! Beware !!!
Pressing "try tech preview" loads up a browser plug-in in IE without making it clear that's what will happen. @ this site... http://labs.live.com/photosynth/
The active-X load was stopped by browser security, where I canceled the attempt.
I've got my IE browser set for compatibility with the WebCT online course-ware system for college courses.
I DON'T LIKE ANYTHING TRYING TO ALTER THE BROWSER THAT MIGHT CHANGE THAT. GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
Why is it that Microsoft thinks they can do d-a-m-n well what they please, without warning?
- meatshoes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6It could be, or perhaps it's just how their Seadragon (http://labs.live.com/photosynth/whatis/seadragon.html) technology has implemented image refinement on all formats?
- ClintEastman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Look who I found!!
http://labs.live.com/photosynth/view.html?collection=sanmarco/index1.sxs&im=images/IMG_3387.sdx&pos=-0.460667:-0.0379697:-0.00661491&dir=0.950029:0.295655:0.100161&zoom=1.60161&fov=38.126&offset=-0.0314824:0.0667018- disillusioned, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Ha, I just stumbled upon Dr. Hawking a moment ago as well.
Man, this is cooooool.
- disillusioned, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Ha, I just stumbled upon Dr. Hawking a moment ago as well.
- disillusioned, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13This is absolutely amazing and well worth the pop into IE for.
- neom, on 10/12/2007, -18/+5WTF no OS X version, has MS lost their mind?! Everyone knows that ALL photographers use a mac. ;)
- MeatBiProduct, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5ummm no.
- Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2whats this, you have actually made a disicion that went againt your hypnotic programming, sounds like it was tough but its the first step towards reclaiming your main and being able to decide things for yourself
- Crustibooga, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Being a Mac geek, I really wanted to hate this... I'm well impressed, it has great potential, truly a cool bit of technology, I just can't believe it's from Microshaft! Bugger! Performs well with IE6 on a two year old Acer laptop. Cool!
- r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2That's cos it is from someone Microsoft JUST bought, that's why! :P
- Doomhammer, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2Very cool, but not very useful...
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Not very useful? You probably didn't even THINK of what the possible applications could be.... you just zoomed around a little bit and dismissed it, didn't you? (...are you a mac lover?)
The first thing that popped into my head was that this would be great for collecting all the photos from a large public event... a concert.. a party... a weekend at the cottage with your friends. After the event is over.. everyone can send their photos in to someone who has a copy of Photosynth... and they could create an amazing, interactive mosaic of everything that happened during the event!!
Neat!! - dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Idea #2: How about a mosaic of the earth?? Everyone from around the world could submit pictures to recreate the world in photographs. That would be incredible...
- DigitalDud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Or imagine taking a photo and using it as a gateway to similar photos on a site like flickr.
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Not very useful? You probably didn't even THINK of what the possible applications could be.... you just zoomed around a little bit and dismissed it, didn't you? (...are you a mac lover?)
- richbradshaw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Doesn't work on my Ultra Cool Intel Integrated Graphics.... No surprise there!
- usefulidiot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6worked fine for me, drivers my friend drivers.
- DigitalDud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah it works great on my work machine's ***** onboard graphics, Intel 815 or some such.
- tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Is there a way to view *all* the photos in their spatial locations? I remember watching a video interview with the Photosynth team a while back and I recall that being one of the features... it was pretty wild.
- tormod, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Those claiming that Microsoft lacks innovation should definetely take a look at this demo.
- r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7Yeah, but this "innovation" was achieved by purchasing another company.
The MS definition of innovation is either:
a) buy some,
b) steal someone elses. - rieuwa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@r3zonance
Not quite true...
"We started with an amazingly fruitful collaboration between the University of Washington and Microsoft Research. We rolled in the luscious visualization technology of the recently acquired Seadragon startup, the speed and compression goodness of the new Windows Media Photo format, the product prowess of the PIX team, and the internet expertise of the Windows Live Local product group." - r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1So basically MS provided the JPEG like Image compression, and Seadragon provided the innovative, difficult and cool image recognition and 3-d mapping part then.
- r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7Yeah, but this "innovation" was achieved by purchasing another company.
- waz67, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Downloading the activeX caused my IE browser, and then my entire desktop to freeze up. Let's try that again...
- waz67, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Worked the 2nd time, and yeah, it sure is cool. I wish they faded out the photos surrounding the central one though, instead of just the dots, that would be cool...
- hkarpf6045, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6If they can make this work right, and get lots of users world wide to use it, this could be really amazing!!!
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Definitely. It looks to me like this program is all about contribution.
You wouldn't personally go out and take 1000 photographs of the same monument or public event... but 1000 different people could easily submit 1 photo to a single database...
And as far as I understand, Photosynth is *SUPPOSED* to be able to automatically analyze and arrange the photographs to fit the 3d scene. This is going to be the real determining factor for this software... even if the auto-analyze feature is only 80% effective, it would save a lot of work from doing it all by hand.
This program has a lot of potential...
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Definitely. It looks to me like this program is all about contribution.
- GhengisKhan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stfukkthx - MrSunshine, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2After seeing all the tourists being exposed, where's the privacy?
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11AHAHA fool... they are in a public square... you don't have to ask for someone's permission to be an 'extra' in a photo of a public place...
- MrSunshine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1AHAHA. I know that. And if Photosynth will be an online tool where everybody can upload his photos and sync them with others, will there still be no privacy issues?
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wow... I didn't think about that... you mean Photosynth will allow people to post ANYTHING? from ANYWHERE? without PERMISSION?? and ANYONE can view it??? Oh my god...
OH MY GOD! Everybody PANIC!
If only there was some way to share this information with millions of people around the world... some way to spread the information and warn everyone... a place where information, media and data is exchanged quickly and freely!!
but where......................?
- macca84, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2how the hell does it create a 3d space out of 2d images! very cool
- kenmantx, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6IE only, ***** that.
- zero_tek, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3yes, because that is exactly how I want to view my photos...
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7narrow minded...
If you want to view a slide show, use your favorite slide show software. if you want to see a 3d mosaic, use photosynth...
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7narrow minded...
- halik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2that's pretty neat, thought how do you go about setting it up? Take the pics and put em in the 3d space and it will create the 3d composite model?
- ClintEastman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1You just through a load of pictures at it and analyzes each picture, compares them to each other and boom... 3D model!
- r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I'm not much of a fan of MS, but this is absolutely f***ing awesome!
- morphie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Looks great. But Internet Explorer 6 and 7 Only..... Well, bummer.
- morphie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Hmm, I get "we were unable to open the collection all/ps/sanmarco/index1.sxs" and we're not sure why." Someone had this problem also?
- rtphokie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Hype Hype Hype
is an amazing new technology from that will change forever the way you think about
The market will decide if it's amazing much less if it changes anything, not 's marketing department. - Rickard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The fact that they jpegged the logo beyond all recognition doesn't bode well for something that has to do with images, but I'll give it a try nonetheless.
http://labs.live.com/photosynth/images/ll_header_nav_photo.jpg - adiman7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"Dial up: Not recommended" that was funny
- HerbSolo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yeah - that's nice. - What's it for?
- echowarpt, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1crashes firefox 1.5 with sp2.
hmm, microsoft site crashing firefox... thats not obvious... - musicmane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0IE6 and 7 only at the moment.
Theres a cool screencast of it in action over at
http://www.istartedsomething.com/ - mrgono3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Some screen shots http://callil.blogspot.com/2006/11/photosynth.html
or you can just watch the movies
(for people without IE) - dvdmon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Kind of reminds me of that photo analyzing machine in blade runner, but not quite as nice. I'm impressed, but even with the fairly large number of photos, I still couldn't see things from certain angles I wanted to. I think you truly need many hundreds of photos for some things, if not thousands. If you could pool different people's images, that would work well, but I wonder what would happen when you basically have covered every conceivable angle? I'd love to see a more intuitive interface using the mouse and keyboard as well, rather than just clickable arrows...
- thegoodtomchi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This is pretty awesome, but according to Digg, it's about 1/4 as interesting as a new dropdown in gmail that lets you forward your mail. Go figure.
btw, here is a video for those of you who won't open IE for any reason:
http://labs.live.com/photosynth/video3.htm - BuffalOBisoN, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Why even post this to digg if you have to access it with IE? Who here uses that piece of ***** browser?
- DigitalDud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Most of the planet?
- DrunkMonk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Why even post this to digg if you have to access it with IE? Who here uses that piece of ***** browser?"
Oh ... maybe because a lot of people enjoy playing around with new technologies and are not limited by their extreme biased opinions like you appear to be, and to answer your question I primarily use Firefox.
- mk32066, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Thats awesome.
- DigitalDud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Apparently it uses Windows Media Photo to compress the images. WMP is based on JPEG 2000 (at least very similar to) so the compression is much better than JPEG in size and quality.
- pauleku, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3this is one of the coolest things ive seen in a while. I really hope this makes it further and continues to grow. I mean - WOW.
- avianna, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I got the best error ever trying this thing...
Line: 87
Char: 15
Error: 'undefined' is null or not an object
Code: 0
URL: http://labs.live.com/photosynth/about_frame.htm
This is on IE6 and XP SP2. - decipherd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Am i the only one that wishes this was a standalone app? I don't see the reasoning behind embedding it in explorer...
- wheeldawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's times like this I'm glad I have the IE tab extension for FireFox. Seeing that would have been worth a forage into IE7, but I didn't even need to do that.
@Decipherd: This is just a tech demo. I believe it will be a standalone app later on. MS doesn't usually make icons like that for lil web plugins. - socokid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Having only to render what the screen can show anyway on full resolution images is pretty cool, I admit, but It's still just pictures... and it's really almost strange to see Window's users finally having a "nugget" to get excited over. It's cute.
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