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Conspiracy theorist gets knocked da' fug out by Buzz Aldrin watch!

youtube.com — Apollo 11 astronaut and second man on the moon lands a sweet punch on someone who thinks the Moon Landings was faked. Well done Buzz!

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  • alapoet, on 07/08/2008, -10/+941Dude was asking for it. Gotta go with Buzz on this one. The guy was an obnoxious idiot.
    • Laserdragon, on 07/08/2008, -4/+105Not to mention a raving douchebag
    • bosssmiley, on 07/08/2008, -4/+284Buzz: "Sir, you make a cogent and interesting point. However, speaking as a man who has actually walked upon the surface of another celestial body, please allow me to respond thusly:"

      *Buzz proceeds to open king-size can of astronautical whoop-ass*

      Moral of the story: Don't ***** with a man who leaves Earth's atmosphere and gravity field - and returns alive - for a living. Just don't.
      • Cenobite, on 07/08/2008, -75/+18I hate to nitpick, but neither Buzz nor any other astronaut/cosmonaut of whom I know, have ever left Earth's gravity field. The concept of orbit (even applied to travel to and from the moon) is really just "falling", except that instead of falling towards the Earth, you're falling around it. When going to the moon, the trajectory arc of your fall becomes progressively greater and greater, until you're so close to the Moon that its sphere of influence exercises a greater effect on you than that of the Earth, and you "fall" into the moon (deliberately).

        Earth's gravity field theoretically extends outwards forever, just like that of every other object in space. And even at the distance of the moon, Earth's absolute gravitational pull is only marginally weaker than it is for those of us on the surface.

        That being said, good on Buzz. The guy had it coming.
      • cawpin, on 07/08/2008, -59/+9I hate to nitpick, but you never LEAVE any body's gravity field. Gravity from any body goes on forever. It just becomes so minute at some point that it is negligible.

        And, BTW.
        http://digg.com/people/Astronauts_gone_Wild_U_MUST ...
        http://digg.com/people/Buzz_Aldrin_punches_a_guy_i ...
      • Cenobite, on 07/08/2008, -4/+66Two people who hate to nitpick, nitpicking the ***** out of the thread :P
      • seedofc, on 07/08/2008, -10/+4I needed that laugh man... oh buddy, that ***** was hilarious!
    • SL4PS4CK, on 07/08/2008, -4/+9chorus from old wu-tang joint immediately comes to mind...
      • WiretapStudios, on 07/08/2008, -0/+18Buzz Aldrin aint nothin' to ***** with? I love that jam.
      • SL4PS4CK, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3i was thinking "shame on a *****" but i like that one too
      • CrazedLeper, on 07/08/2008, -15/+3"Moral of the story: Don't ***** with a man who leaves Earth's atmosphere and gravity field - and returns alive - for a living. Just don't."

        Also, a guy who "said" he went to the moon but didn't can be dangerous, too.
      • xs11ax, on 07/08/2008, -0/+8"the art of heckling buzz aldrin is like a game of chess...
        you must think first before you make your move."
      • ProfessorLX, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5raw he'll give it to ya, with no trivia, he's like cocaine straight from the moon
    • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -103/+9Huh, buzz aldrin is kind of an *****. Punch first, diplomacy last I guess.

      Then again, he is a republican.
      • Tomchei, on 07/08/2008, -2/+16Please, consume your goods and watch MTV, E!, Fox, CNN.
      • norman619, on 07/08/2008, -2/+30Ah yes and the conspiracy idiot was being "diplomatic" right? STFU please. No one should be able to the ***** that moron said and not expect this kind of rebuttal. If you say something that insulting you better be willing to accept the consequences.
      • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -44/+3Aww im sorry...did I just offend you bushie *****? Don't you guys have some poor children to grind into sausage and serve in your fancy suburban country clubs?

      • Alreadyinuse99, on 07/08/2008, -2/+29*****? That man climbed in to a tiny capsule loaded on top of a giant explosive rocket and got blasted all the way to the moon on a mission that could just as easily have resulted in his death. Now this ***** smoking prick gets in his face and calls him a liar and a coward. That sorry excuse for a human got less of an ass beating than he deserved.
      • lamiaconfitor, on 07/08/2008, -2/+10You are a coward, a liar, and a thief!
      • waydee, on 07/08/2008, -1/+23Less of your partisan *****, the man contributed to the advancement of the human species in a way you'll never even come close to matching.

      • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -24/+4I didnt say he wasn't a hero, pinhead. I only said that he was an *****. Winston Churchill is a hero for the ages as well, and as well, was roundly and quite deservedly declared a prick by all who came into contact with him. That none of you can separate the two in your heads isn't surprising, but it is sad.

        And "waydee", I daresay that buckminster fuller had a bit more to offer, and also never punched anyone in the face.
      • Zong, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7@salomejones your reasoning for him being a prick is all based on him being a republican. Which is just another way to label people so you discriminate without actually knowing the person.

        the guy deserved to get punched in the face many people here agree heck if I were in his shows I would feel like I'm getting attacked especially after warning the guy to get away from me.
      • jamessavik, on 07/09/2008, -2/+3That's why I used to be a republican: when an ass wipe needs a pop in the mouth, I'm all for it.

        Now republicans just kiss saudi as when they should be kicking it off the planet.
      • anotherjack, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1@salomejones. Buckminster Fuller, worked for covert intelligence during the war. He specifically asked for all communications about german inventions to be sent his way, and would patent ideas that he found, under his own name, without changing them. The "Bucky" dome was invented by some german guy.

        relevant quote from Slate:
        "....revelation made 35 years ago by Lloyd Kahn, an early geodesic dome devotee. The geodesic dome, a spherical structure constructed out of small elements that make it lightweight and extremely strong, was long associated with Fuller. Kahn revealed that the world's first geodesic dome was a planetarium designed for the Carl Zeiss optical works in Jena, Germany, by Dr. Walter Bauersfeld in 1922—30 years before Fuller filed his patent for the device."

        As far as offering something to the world, it's Buzz Aldrin ftw!
    • CrazedLeper, on 07/08/2008, -69/+7He was being obnoxious but you are all being mindless sheeple. People don't shout "conspiracy" for entertainment. Deceiving the public is the normal course of business for your overlords. For them, lying comes as easily as lifting a pen or making a phone call --with speed dial.

      For your parts, you believe everything they say and almost none of you are willing to do any research on your own and they already know that. This is why they pull the wool over your eyes and then wool over the wool. This is not going to end well.
      • hexydes, on 07/08/2008, -3/+34THAT'S RIGHT PEOPLE DON'T LET FACTS OR HISTORICAL ACCURACY GET IN THE WAY OF A RANDOM POSTER ON THE INTARWEB! HE'S PROBABLY RIGHT!
      • hoghug, on 07/08/2008, -4/+25Believing in a crackpot theory is no better than believing in authoritarian deception. It's just a variation of the same thing. It's like refusing to listen to a crap band on corporate radio, only to listen to 10x worse band at your local coffee house.

        Take the time to find the crap that's really worth your trouble.
        It's a shame all the 9/11 truthers, moon landing hoaxers and holocaust deniers couldn't focus their energy and time on something more worthwhile.
      • waydee, on 07/08/2008, -5/+21There is no research worth doing! every single one of these conspiracy theories is backed up by evidence that no sane person would consider. I've had this argument countless times with conspiracy nuts and all they do is post links to nutjob websites and youtube videos.

        Conspiracy theories such as the moon landing hoax one aren't backed up by any serious evidence at all, on the odd occasion that someone in the position to do so gives up their time to discuss and examine the 'evidence' put forward by these nutjobs it is always soundly debunked.

        Conspiracy theories appeal to a small group of nutjobs in the same way as counter culture appeals to a minority, it's an opportunity to hold different beliefs and a different outlook on events but that doesn't mean anyone who rejects these ideas is some sort of sheep unable to think for themselves, if anything this attitude that you have hurts your cause even further. 9/11 truthers, moon hoaxers - they're all the same and in it for the same reasons. By all means have your beliefs, discuss them amongst yourselves but never suggest that your whacked out and almost universally derided opinion makes you better informed than the rest of us.
      • Mononuclear, on 07/08/2008, -3/+7People don't shout conspiracy for entertainment. They shout it because they are completely off their rocker. You know how many people think Jews are making the planet slowly change orbit in a path towards the sun? They don't do it for entertainment.. they are just crazy and their brains don't work right.
      • CrazedLeper, on 07/08/2008, -11/+4Every one of your rebuttals is "conspiracies are crazy". That's a non-answer. There are millions upon millions of people who believe that JFK was killed by the US govt. Are you seriously going to write them all off as "insane"? Your sole/main evidence for believing your government's stories are that the government told you to believe them. Begging your pardon but in the face of *actual* evidence (forensics, circumstantial and otherwise) "we said so" is worth a hill of beans.

        There was so much molten steel under both the twin towers and WTC7 that the thermal signature could be seen from a satellite. Was the satellite "crazy"?

        We all plainly saw Oswald gunned down BY A MOBSTER at THE POLICE STATION!! HOW OBVIOUS WAS THAT?!!

        There were traces of thermate in all the dust from the towers--was the dust "crazy"? It's unbelievable how far you people will go to cling to a story that is so obviously false just because some guys you think are "experts" said it's true. Anyone who denies reality on that scale fits my definition of "crazy".
      • PorchSong, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6Don't forget to add "Contrail Spraying" to the list of idiotic and immature conspiracies these morons cling to. I think they actually believe in these things to get attention. Why someone would actively seek negative attention is beyond me and I am hopeful will always be beyond me. But, I guess in these peoples miserable lives, they need this negative attention as they are incapable of accomplishing anything meaningful and valuable in their lives and pathetically cling to any attention they can get.
      • CrazedLeper, on 07/08/2008, -11/+3It's not "contrail spraying" it's "chemtrails". True contrails dissipate in minutes and never reach the ground. Chemtrails last for hours and do, sometimes, reach the ground at which time, it become clear that minute particles of aluminum are not water vapor. I guess you have to be "crazy" to get that right.
      • CrazedLeper, on 07/08/2008, -9/+2I hate Americans. I can't wait until you're all enslaved and disposed of by the NWO.
      • franklymister, on 07/08/2008, -2/+2CrazedLeper, your profile says you are in Miami.
        Would you be so kind as to get the ***** out of my country, you subhuman parasite?
        You don't belong on Digg, and you don't belong in America.

      • thirteenthcor, on 07/09/2008, -3/+3crazed leper-

        thermite "residue" could be aluminum oxide and or iron oxide.... having a building made out of both iron and aluminum products...and then set on fire, would of course reflect thermite residue. as for "molten" metal at the base of the twin towers, the entire area was hot during the blaze, and for days after as things smoldered. it was not, however "molten metal" as your saying it.

        the metal that the beams supporting the twin towers were made out of was a steel alloy that had very low melting temperatures (less than a few thousand degrees) and once temperature reached a critical point, the building collapsed on itself. When these buildings were built 50+ years ago, no one imagined that temperatures would ever reach that threshold inside the building.

        but i do have a hard time imagining the TOTAL failure of the fire-control system in the building, combined with the fact that it takes a hell of a lot of energy and heat to make that much jet fuel ignite. i can sit on my back porch with a mapp-welder held to a cup of JP-5 and it wont do jack *****. Diesel, Kerosene and Jet Fuel have to either be highly compressed, or heated to VERY high temperatures in order for it to combust, and then kept at that heat or compression if its to continue to burn. It's one of the properties that make them much safer fuels than gasoline or propane etc.

        the CIA admitted that they knew some sort of attack was planned. No, i don't think our government did it, but i think they failed to act to prevent it, possibly on purpose. Those people did die, and terrorists aiming for part of our economic heart did it.

        as for Oswald, while i don't think there was more than one shooter, i don't think Oswald was "just a crazy nut" like the gov. says. and the caliber manlicher-carcano rifles used, has a horrible habit of tumbling either mid-flight or on entry. Oswald could have also gotten off more than 3 shots in 5 seconds no problem, i can do that, and i'm not even trained. he was a marine sniper, who could learn to shoot fast AND accurately.

        and what was jack ruby's motive for shooting Oswald? surely not vengeance.

        oh and i have a hard time accepting a plane made out of very light aluminum alloy penetrated over 60 feet deep, what is for all intents and purposes a above ground hardened nuclear bunker. (Pentagon)

        and why would jets be giving off trails of "heavier than air" aluminum particles? wouldn't that be very dangerous to the health of the jet engines?
      • ShrimpCrackers, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1CrazedLeper said: "I hate Americans. I can't wait until you're all enslaved and disposed of by the NWO."

        Wow. See here's the issue, you've got CrazyLeper as your login name yet you're telling people that you're not crazy when they call you such, instead everyone else is crazy. You say you hate Americans but you live in Miami (according to your profile). Either you're a troll or you're an idiot.
      • ShrimpCrackers, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1You know CrazedLeper, at one point there was lots of dissent over whether Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier. Some people said it couldn't be done...
      • Fordi, on 07/09/2008, -1/+2Wow. CL, I knew you were a creationist, but I didn't know you wore *three* separate tinfoil hats. Oh, wait, four - your a moon landing denier, too.
      • CrazedLeper, on 07/09/2008, -3/+1If you don't like me, label me a terrorist and let your unfounded paranoia do the rest.
      • CrazedLeper, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1"thermite "residue" could be aluminum oxide and or iron oxide.... having a building made out of both iron and aluminum products...and then set on fire, would of course reflect thermite residue. as for "molten" metal at the base of the twin towers, the entire area was hot during the blaze, and for days after as things smoldered. it was not, however "molten metal" as your saying it."

        Bull$h!t

        I didn't say "Therm*I*te", I said "Therm*A*te". Therm*A*te is the US military's special blend of therm*I*te which includes sulphur. Adding sulphur has three effects 1) it lowers the melting point of steel and 2) it points the finger at the US military and 3) it nullifies your argument.

        "the CIA admitted that they knew some sort of attack was planned. No, i don't think our government did it, but i think they failed to act to prevent it, possibly on purpose"

        Even if there were *real* terrorists (there weren't), how do you accept that the CIA "allowed" the attacks to proceed?
      • CrazedLeper, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1"and why would jets be giving off trails of "heavier than air" aluminum particles? wouldn't that be very dangerous to the health of the jet engines?"

        I never said the particles came from the engines. Look up chemtrails for yourself.
      • tkstock, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
      • tkstock, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1CL, how does adding sulfur to Thermate lower the melting point of the steel it's placed against? Placing something against a steel post doesn't magically lower the melting point of the steel in the post.
      • CrazedLeper, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1I'm a conspiracy theorist, not a chemist. It is my business to know a moderate amount of detail about a lot of subjects and to be able to assemble them together to form a picture of a truth that *some* people would rather no one know. I've done my homework on 9/11: your government did it and they have worse planned.
      • tkstock, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1So you're saying that when your conspiracy is debunked point by point until oblivion, it remains one of your pronouncements, regardless?
      • nitsuj, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2"I'm a conspiracy theorist, not a chemist. It is my business to know a moderate amount of detail about a lot of subjects and to be able to assemble them together to form a picture of a truth that *some* people would rather no one know."

        So you are ill informed about a lot of subjects and then use this patchy information to formulate crack-pot conspiracy theories. Your 'truth' is founded on misinformation and lack of knowledge.

        You can't bring up 3 so-called 'points' regarding sulfur and thermate only to throw your hands up and bleat when you're actually called on your own *****.

        Back it up or STFU and admit that you don't know what you're talking about.
    • FoxMcCloud1, on 07/08/2008, -51/+4I dunno. Seeing as that Buzz probably didn't actually go to the moon and it was a hoax, he was probably obviously frustrated to the point where he hit the guy. So really Buzz ftl. If he had really been to the moon he would have laughed and said sorry dude yer wrong but have a nice day.

      I personally would never swear on top of a holy bible either but would at least reply with a normal answer and that would be it. Never attack unless it is self defense.
      • wireframework, on 07/08/2008, -2/+15Idiot.
      • hoghug, on 07/08/2008, -1/+11I'd respond to FoxMcCloud1, accept for the fact the clearly FoxMcCloud1 didn't write that post and it was in fact the Illuminati who is using a proxy in order to disseminate misinformation in order to take over the world.

        See how irritating that is? Now imagine if you heard that sort of ***** for 40 years straight. After a while you'd start poking some people in the nose, too. Especially after rebuking the first 1,000 or so jackasses with a polite answer that never made a difference.
      • lamiaconfitor, on 07/08/2008, -3/+7I am going to try and be really polite about this, unlike wire... You need to understand that your concept that no one has ever left the atmosphere/landed on the moon is based on the presumption that is would be difficult to do so. Expensive, yes, but not difficult. You can build a rocket yourself at home with instructions found online. ancient cultures unlocked the secrets two millennium ago. Google it, if you don't believe me.
        The quantity of the fuel mixture to get into space is extreme, especially for the mass you would have to be transporting to get astronauts safely back into the atmosphere and to land. in addition to that, the moons mass being a fraction of the mass of earth, would be much lees difficult to escape. I have absolutely every confidence that if you and everyone else who believes that the moon landing was faked, got enough money donated to your cause, you could, without any government involvement, arrive safely on the moon and return to tell us that you, in fact, faked it all.
      • SpeedSteamBoat, on 07/09/2008, -1/+2@lamiaconfitor: I dugg you up, but it's worth saying that going to the moon IS difficult. Conspiracy theorists believe it to be impossible. That's wrong, but it's also inaccurate to say, conversely, that it is not difficult.

        We effectively gave a blank check to the bravest and brightest men in the world and it took them nearly a decade to achieve it. Perhaps modern technology would it somewhat easier now, but it would by no account be "easy."
    • kaelyiesta, on 07/08/2008, -1/+44Agreed. Even supposing this guy believed what he was saying, harassing someone like that and getting so confrontational is just wrong. If he didn't believe Aldrin landed on the moon, fine. Prove it, or show that we cannot prove he did. Don't block a guys path, get within inches of him and start insulting him.

      When you threaten and agitate someone, you should expect retaliation.
      • kasia323, on 07/09/2008, -4/+1well ppls did prove it beyond doubt...i will just take some mins to look into these conspiracy
    • gnomead, on 07/08/2008, -3/+44I'm actually sort of disappointed with Buzz. I was hoping he'd follow that up with a left.
      • lamiaconfitor, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5"a gentleman uses the straight left!" -Sherlock Holmes
    • ab79, on 07/08/2008, -3/+13I agree. Dude has the constitutional right to speak, and Buzz has the right to react.
    • vofuse, on 07/08/2008, -18/+9BECAUSE VIOLENCE IS ALWAYS THE ANSWER
      • Zong, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6humm.... ya sure occasionally some people need a jab to the chops don't see any harm in that
      • StarlessKnight, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1If Buzz believed violence was always the answer, don't you think we'd have heard more about how he should have been a professional boxer by now? Yes? But we haven't? Think on it.
      • CrazyChair, on 07/21/2008, -0/+0For morons like the guy who got punched it is.
      • 4d669, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1Only in America.
      • jamessavik, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Apparently it works for jabbering assholes.
    • colonelbuckshot, on 07/08/2008, -20/+3Yeah right, that was a really civilized and classy response from Buzz Aldrin
      • thevoiceless, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Dude just try to imagine how he feels, having to deal with that for years and years from idiots who don't give any logical reason/proof to back up what they're accusing him of...and when that guy got in Buzz's face like that, he really had it coming.
    • supaklaw, on 07/08/2008, -1/+17Buzz is cool simply for being named Buzz Aldrin. Punching morons is gravy.
    • pantone286, on 07/08/2008, -2/+11Gay voice: "You are a coward and a liar......umph"
      • jamessavik, on 07/09/2008, -2/+4Dude- gay does not equal pussy which is what that clown was.
      • pantone286, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2erm......when you are the bitch it pretty much means exactly that. Man pussy.
      • iziizi, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1@jamessavik - Most gays tend to be camp / female-like which does make them pussys (not in the vaginal sense)
    • GoatMonkey2112, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4Maybe Bush could go ahead and throw in a pardon for Buzz also if this goes to court. He would actually deserve it.
    • vidar808, on 07/08/2008, -0/+8One conspiracy theory involving Aldrin stems from a supposed Apollo moon landing hoax by the U.S. government. On September 9, 2002, filmmaker Bart Sibrel, a proponent of the conspiracy allegations, confronted Aldrin outside a Beverly Hills, California hotel. Sibrel called Aldrin "a coward, a liar, and a thief," saying "You're the one who said you walked on the moon and you didn't." Aldrin punched Sibrel in the face. Beverly Hills police and the city's prosecutor declined to file charges. -- Who is the coward now bitch!
    • geardosdotnet, on 07/09/2008, -3/+2Yeah, now we just need to punch all the people who believe an invisible man in the sky is watching them... I'm sure that would go over well in America.
  • bonlebon, on 07/08/2008, -12/+139"One of These Days, Sandra Day, Pow, Right in the Kisser" and the day came.
  • bixby1, on 07/08/2008, -16/+381Anybody who says we faked the lunar landings on a sound stage in Burbank is prolly gonna' get KO'd sooner or later.
    • Cenobite, on 07/08/2008, -1/+60They've already been KO'd by the forceful right hook of Evidence.
      • SilverStandard, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1I know I will get Dugg down by voicing a very unpopular side of this. I will be called names and what not. But I was wondering if any of you could actually respond to this argument instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks.

        This is also only talking about Apollo moon landings, not other stuff.

        NASA claims the spacesuits were cooled by a water system which was piped around the body, then through a system of coils sheltered from the sun in the backpack. NASA claims that water was sprayed on the coils causing a coating of ice to form. The ice then supposedly absorbed the tremendous heat collected in the water and evaporated into space. There are two problems with this that cannot be explained away. 1) The amount of water needed to be carried by the astronauts in order to make this work for even a very small length of time in the direct 55 degrees over the boiling point of water (210 degrees F at sea level on Earth) heat of the sun could not have possibly been carried by the astronauts. 2) NASA has since claimed that they found ice in moon craters. NASA claims that ice sheltered from the direct rays of the sun will NOT evaporate destroying their own bogus "air conditioning" explanation.

        Remember this. Think about it the next time you go off in the morning with a "vacuum bottle" filled with hot coffee. Think about it long and hard when you sit down and pour a piping hot cup from your thermos to drink with your lunch four hours later... and then think about it again when you pour the last still very warm cup of coffee at the end of the day.

        The same laws of physics apply to any vehicle traveling through space. NASA claims that the spacecraft was slowly rotated causing the shadowed side to be cooled by the intense cold of space... an intense cold that DOES NOT EXIST. In fact the only thing that could have been accomplished by a rotation of the spacecraft is a more even and constant heating such as that obtained by rotating a hot dog on a spit. In reality a dish called Astronaut a la Apollo would have been served. At the very least you would not want to open the hatch upon the crafts return.

        NASA knows better than to claim, in addition, that a water cooling apparatus such as that which they claim cooled the astronauts suits cooled the spacecraft. No rocket could ever have been launched with the amount of water needed to work such a system for even a very short period of time. Fresh water weighs a little over 62 lbs. per cubic foot. Space and weight capacity were critical given the lift capability of the rockets used in the Apollo Space Program. No such extra water was carried by any mission whatsoever for suits or for cooling the spacecraft.
    • vegask, on 07/08/2008, -22/+14Pow!! right in the kisser.
      Pow!! right in the kisser.
      Pow!! right in the kisser.
      Pow!! right in the kisser.
      • woohhaa, on 07/08/2008, -10/+2I think we are the only two people who saw that episode of Family Guy. None of my friends get that reference.
      • joed5122, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1I get it. Started laughing as soon as I saw the post.
      • evillawngnome, on 07/08/2008, -2/+2i think your friends don't watch enough family guy.
      • eyefork2, on 07/08/2008, -3/+2I think Family Guy is old and full of cheap jokes, which is why I dugg you down.
    • phyx726, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4Was that Glass joe?
    • Vigilo, on 07/08/2008, -10/+2What happened to free speech i think we went to the moon but those amazing photos that were taken on the moon were staged. Regardless free speech ftw i don't like your idea of America you fascist.
      • EntangledPhysx, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Wow.
      • IllBeBack, on 07/09/2008, -1/+3Your IQ has been determined to be: 62

        Would you like a cookie?
    • GreenGrassyNoel, on 07/08/2008, -3/+5okay okay, maybe we did actually go to the moon, but THIS video was faked.
    • Ortheos, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2But you did.
  • fadeout, on 07/08/2008, -89/+557I want to do that in every 9/11 thread that hits the main page.
    • Lucas123, on 07/08/2008, -30/+47Amen.
    • waxoff, on 07/08/2008, -18/+102I hear that's going to be a new Digg feature. Submit a truther story and get punched in the nuts.
      • NonServium, on 07/08/2008, -63/+9Oh look, all the anti-truthers are digging up a pro-censorship comment. What a surprise.
      • elhaf, on 07/08/2008, -5/+65It's not censorship if you tell someone who is yelling "Fire! Fire! Fire!" over and over again at the local pool to shut the ***** up.
      • NonServium, on 07/08/2008, -41/+10It's also not censorship if you eat a ham sandwich.

        But what was suggested was physical assault on people for submitting stories from a perspective that you, who are perfectly capable of ignoring these stories, would rather not get submitted. And that, jackass, is censorship.
      • Tyrghast, on 07/08/2008, -8/+42THIS JUST IN NONSERVIUM: Your perspective is stupid. It's a judgment call and we're makin' it. Truthers think they know something, but they don't. Go back to your tin foil hats Ouija boards.
      • rondeth, on 07/08/2008, -4/+12nonservium, waxoff just said you'd get punched in the nuts, he said nothing of actually preventing the story (censorship).
        Which does seem quite useful, now that waxoff mentions it.
      • clutchperformer, on 07/08/2008, -4/+3You must not be familiar with the Fighting Words Doctrine.
      • tas08, on 07/08/2008, -4/+6I can understand them calling themSELVES truthers, but do we have to do it to? It kind of makes it seem like they are saying something important.
      • NonServium, on 07/09/2008, -3/+1"He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his reason is weak." - Michel de Montaigne
    • pintomp3, on 07/08/2008, -35/+74not to mention the evolution, global warming, and holocaust deniers.
      • vexingmodstwo, on 07/08/2008, -26/+11Ah, there's one of the prime candidates for an Aldrin punch now.
      • waxoff, on 07/08/2008, -30/+6holocaust deniers: Check.
        evolution: ?
        global warming: ?

        When NAS says evolution and global warming are BS I'll change my opinion. I'll also own a flying pig farm at that point.
      • Jeffler, on 07/08/2008, -15/+28Dunno, global warming can be disputed (though the other two I agree)
      • waxoff, on 07/08/2008, -15/+16@Jeffler
        You can dispute anything you want. But disputing global warming isn't much better than disputing evolution. Unless you just like arguing from a purely political/dogmatic position any dispute over science is best answered by scientists. The National Academy of Sciences says global warming is real. I'll trust their opinion over a politicians anytime.
      • fatrandy13, on 07/08/2008, -14/+7dont group global warming into your otherwise sound list.

        >>waxoff: its not the theory of global warming that people deny or dispute (well maybe some), its the corporate propaganda that its all "our" fault. People do realize the earth has been going through massive climate changes in its multi billion year history, right?? (ice age anyone??)
      • waxoff, on 07/08/2008, -4/+13@fatrandy13
        Actually the NAS claims exactly that and does belong in the same category. We are responsible for the majority of the climate change we are now starting to experience.

        http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/archive/nas-report-clima ...
        http://www7.nationalacademies.org/ocga/testimony/G ...
        http://www7.nationalacademies.org/ocga/testimony/G ...

        Argue and whine all you want, but this is what the science shows.
    • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 07/08/2008, -10/+13Danny Bonnaduche almost did.
      • rex84, on 07/08/2008, -10/+2Mark Dice would have beat the crap out of Bonnadouche. Dice is like 6'5" and 245lbs. What's Danny? Like 5'6'?
      • Herkimer56, on 07/08/2008, -3/+9It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. Mark Dice is a worm.
      • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 07/08/2008, -2/+8He kicked Johnny Fairplay's ass.
      • norman619, on 07/08/2008, -2/+10rex:

        Remind me how short and skinny was Bruce Lee?
      • rex84, on 07/08/2008, -6/+1@norman: Apples and oranges. You can't compare Bruce Lee to Bonnadouche. Bruce was a Kung Fu master and even invented kickboxing and Jeet Kune Do. I've seen Bonnadouche's celeb boxing show; he couldn't beat his way out of a wet paper bag. Even if Bonnadouche and Dice both suck at fighting, Dice would man handle him out of sheer difference in natural strength.
      • rex84, on 07/08/2008, -6/+1@Bohica: You should be ashamed you even know who Johnny Fairplay is. After using wiki and youtube, I discovered Fairplay is even smaller than Bonadouche, and was dry-humping him; not fighting. Bonadouche flipped Fairplay onto the ground, and Fairlaplay couldn’t even catch his fall. What a couple a wusses. Dice could whup both those ladies at once.
      • rex84, on 07/08/2008, -6/+3@Herk: You may not agree with Dice’s world view, but you have to admit he has balls. Have you seen the videos of him shouting and bull horning 9/11 stuff at campuses and military bases? Oh wait, his youtube account has been shutdown ever since Michael Reagan went on the radio soliciting for Dice’s murder.
      • Herkimer56, on 07/09/2008, -1/+5The only thing I'll admit is that he's an obnoxious *****. That's a condition that seems to be running rampant among the members of the Cult of 9/11.
    • CrazedLeper, on 07/08/2008, -37/+40Inside job.
    • brainworms, on 07/08/2008, -32/+12false flag like every other war.
    • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -78/+12Do you live in new york city? If not, then you get to say jack ***** ***** about ANY opinion about 9/11.

      Thats right, I said it again. And I'll keep saying it until I'm dead. You have NO idea what happened if all you did was watch it on television. None.
      • nericus, on 07/08/2008, -14/+5Actually, *I* didn't even do that much... I got a phone call, was told that the towers fell, cursed at them and went back to sleep. Having stayed up until 8am EST probably had something to do with it, but meh either way.
      • quiggibub, on 07/08/2008, -2/+34I'm pretty sure they flew very big planes into very large buildings.
      • Jeffler, on 07/08/2008, -1/+16Shanksville and the Pentagon are in New York?
      • AmericanGunner, on 07/08/2008, -10/+1why wernt you in them :(
      • dumpyhumpy, on 07/08/2008, -2/+11I live in NYC. And you're foolish to believe it was an inside job. Yes, the government was grossly negligent in the lead-up to the attack - Bush said "who would have thought that somebody would use airplanes as weapons? [sic]" even though the intelligence agencies expected folks like bin Laden to try just that. - But to miss the gross negligence and profess a HUGE inside job by the government... thats just foolish.
      • tas08, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7You, salomejones, are a dumbass. Sorry to name-call but seriously. Let's see, I live in the St. Paul/Minneapolis area where the 35W bridge collapsed last summer but that doesn't make me some automatic expert on the subject. I guarantee there are plenty of people from other states who know more about it than me. You're belief has no logical reasoning behind it.
      • alexj306, on 07/08/2008, -0/+12Honestly, speaking as a New Yorker, there is no reason you know more about 9/11 than any other person who followed it on television.

        The only thing you could see, unless you were actually in the towers or very close by, was black smoke and although discomforting, does not provide important insights based on your geographical location.
      • SquigglyP, on 07/09/2008, -3/+5@Dumpy:

        Not only had they planned it, they were running simulation for it at the exact time it was happening. Just like the UK law enforcement were holding simulations for the subway bombings on the exact day that they happened - and at the exact stations the bombs went off at. And that several of the hijakers were being watched. One of them was actually living with an informant.

        There is plenty of indication that they were aware of the plan. Of course there will never be an investigation. Our government - according to the 9/11 report - had opportunities immediately after the attacks to begin investigating the various funding operations that were taking place to these exact suspects, Mohammed Atta especially, and not only failed to follow up on them, but deemed them 'of little consequence' in the report. How exactly is finding out who paid for the attacks not a priority? Why did we - instead of investigating the ties to Pakistan, Israel and the Saudis, did we simply proclaim that it was Bin Laden, when Bin Laden denied having had anything to do with them?

        it's not that I think 9/11 was a huge conspiracy or that the government had bombs or whatever planted. But the fact that they seem to have simply gone on a kill crazy rampage afterwards with no one willing to stop and say "hey, wait a second... according to all the evidence we have, these guys had nothing at all to do with the attacks". People believe that Bin Laden was responsible, but NO EVIDENCE supported that claim after the attacks, and the evidence we did have pointed in an entirely different direction. And it was ignored. Or was it?

        And now, seven years later, the kill crazy rampage continues unhindered while the evidence has clearly never pointed at any of the countries and 'terrorist groups' we've targeted. But they use 9/11 as the excuse. But don't just believe me. I don't give a ***** if you agree or not. Just step back and take a look at the past seven years. Look at the earliest reports. Read the 9/11 commission report, and watch the videos of the depositions to see how much ***** they discarded or changed. Why would he give himself immunity from war crimes if he wasn't committing any? He was. Why would he refuse to swear in during his depositions? Because if he did and he was caught lying he would be guilty of perjury and would be impeached. What other reason is there?
    • MusicMagi, on 07/08/2008, -49/+23Except there's actually a hefty bit of information to support the 911 conspiracy theory.. do your research kids
      • beezneez, on 07/08/2008, -15/+38And there is a hefty bit of debunking of those conspiracy theories.
      • Herkimer56, on 07/08/2008, -12/+28@MusicMagi

        There's not a single shred of credible, verifiable evidence to support the truther theories. I've done my research, apparently you have not.
      • gigibachorski, on 07/08/2008, -23/+12and there's a hefty bit of the debunking that's total *****.
      • delmar14, on 07/08/2008, -11/+14The debunking was done by Popular Mechanics, a well-respected publication with a highly-educated staff. The conspiracy was invented by a pasty nerd to grab some inerwebs fame. This is a free country, so believe whatever you want; but it saddens me that once people are hoodwinked, they simply block out logic rather than admit they were wrong.
      • bawitback, on 07/08/2008, -7/+5pathetic replies;
        http://www.infowars.com/truthrising/
      • tas08, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3There ain't ***** for evidence. Do yours.
      • Gemfinder, on 07/09/2008, -1/+2On websites with black backgrounds and a solid block of text with no paragraph breaks that goes on and on and on and on and... ?
      • MusicMagi, on 10/01/2008, -0/+0look believe what you want guys. The fact is there is a lot about 9-11 that is controversial whether you believe it or not. There have been cover-ups before and after, and a lot of shady things that happened. All I'm saying is, don't believe everything the government tells you for they may :-O be lying!
    • NonServium, on 07/08/2008, -22/+15I wanna do this to everyone who thinks honey nut cheerios is better than regular cheerios. How dare they not think the same thing as me!
      • neuromachine, on 07/08/2008, -3/+6It's not a matter of subjective opinion, it's a matter of truth.
    • sg7791, on 07/08/2008, -19/+12Well, look. The theories are believable I guess. But there's nobody that denies 9/11 entirely.
      • subliminalurge, on 07/08/2008, -10/+22No, the theories are not believable. They are incorrect conclusions drawn from flawed assumptions based on misinterpretation of a cherry picked subset of the available evidence which is then taken entirely out of context.

        In other words, the theories are simply the incoherent ramblings of idiots.
      • TheSuperunknown, on 07/08/2008, -8/+18subliminalurge is right on the money. Case in point: When they showed footage of papers fluttering down from the towers and called them the flashes of timed charges. That is a special brand of stupid.
      • HeadofScience, on 07/08/2008, -8/+10I lolled at your comment but you're deluded if you think all 9/11 conspiracy theorists hold that belief. There are many idiots who believe this stuff but it doesnt mean there arent rational people who also think it was a conspiracy. I dont know where you heard this fluttering papers theory but its easy to put up an idiot as means to misrepresent a movement and turn people like you against it.
      • dlite922, on 07/09/2008, -5/+2I agree with HeadOfScience (ironic name)

        I believe the moon landing was real, I don't believe UFO's have visited earth. I don't believe anything that Fox News says. I have a college degree in CS. I'm open to talks about abortion, global warming, and politics with an open mind and rational reasoning.

        Yet I'm generally and swiftly labeled a "truther."

        I don't believe (nor ever heard of) flying papers be called flashes...ever. I've watched my share of 9-11 Truth stories.

        Diggers easily point out conspiracy but, since i've been a member nobody has pointed to me why and where Digg majority got this opinion. Was it when diggers watched fox news back in the day? (sorry i'll decrease the insult)

        All i'm asking is maybe it was something before I was a member, could you kindly point me to the digg comments that explained the obvious implosion of building 7.

        I lost loved ones in the Iraq war, so go easy on me.

    • ChristianMagic, on 07/08/2008, -23/+36Honestly, I'm not sure what side I believe in about 9/11, however, I find it absolutely ***** up that anyone who wants to find out the truth (people who have looked into it and have an opinion contrary to what they've just been told by the media) is seen as scum.

      Even if this conspiracy isn't true, you can't hate people for trying to decide based on facts. If you do eventually you'll get ***** when something really happens and they are right.
      • yeti22, on 07/08/2008, -10/+17Can you hate people for trying to decide based on hearsay, incomplete evidence, extremely selective eyewitness accounts, fuzzy pictures from far away, and shadows they decided were suspicious? What if they persist in their evangelism (for that's what it is) after the obvious flaws in their method have been pointed out?
      • NonServium, on 07/08/2008, -6/+10Yes yeti, you can hate television newscasters.
      • UnstableMind, on 07/08/2008, -10/+16Yeti, nice strawman, but show me the evidence that supports the "official" story. I'm w/CM on this one. There's so many goddam holes in that story it's worse than *****' swiss cheese. Why does it bother you and so many others when people question what happened?
      • pakiranian, on 07/08/2008, -16/+89 11 was absolutely an inside job, are u kidding me!? watch zeitgeist online and then tell me otherwise.
      • ChristianMagic, on 07/08/2008, -6/+13To Yeti: I'm watching Loose Change right now, then I plan to watch a video debunking it, then I plan to use logic, science and checking their sources to decide which one I agree with. From what I've seen right now, it has all sorts of actual reasons that definitely make it viable.

        So, I disagree w/ your description of how people find out, but even if that was all the proof they have, I believe that as long as they aren't dicks about it (unlike the guy in the video, who indeed a douche) or as evangelical as any religion then you have no reason to hate them.
      • maximoo2, on 07/08/2008, -6/+18So what happened to building 7 anyways?

        Oh whats the official story? The building caught on fire, was hit by a bit of rubbish, and then... totally collapsed perfectly?

        Ya okay I'll buy that. That's the official story, it must be true.

        It's not like the States ever went to war without a good reason.

        /end sarcasm... You have to be a bit suspicious if you look at the facts.

        Why was all the the support pillar wreckage immediately sent all to China to be melted? ... Does it like like the Pentagon was hit by a giant plane to you? Wouldn't there, you know, be like parts of a plane or something?

        The thing is that most people thing that it is unfathomable the a government would perpetuate such a crime, so no matter the evidence, there is no way to publicly dispute the claims.

        As soon as something is labeled a 'conspiracy theory' it immediately means that what ever the theory is, it is false? Is that how it works? Of course most theories are wrong..but you should at least look at some of the evidence behind them, at least out of curiosity.
      • hivoltage815, on 07/08/2008, -9/+7If you truly believe that our government is responsible for 9/11 you should move to another country. I can't imagine anyone who would want to live here if that were the case.

        Sure the government can be corrupt, but "coverups" and "inside jobs" of a magnitude such as that would be impossible to maintain. If we know about prison scandals and torture treatment in relation to the Iraq war then we would know for certain if 9/11 was government planned.
      • Notasheeple, on 07/09/2008, -3/+8Well said maximoo2

        Just because people think there is no way it can be true, does not mean anything.

        "The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."
        "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."
        -Adolf Hitler
      • paaru, on 07/09/2008, -3/+4I'm with maximoo on this one... if it wasn't an inside job (not that the conspiracy theories are making much sense) all the government really has to do is prove these people wrong. Tell us what was under the mysterious blue tarp. Have some credible scientists tell us why it doesn't look like a plane crashed into the PEntagon. Publish a report that answers people's questions instead of leaving them asking more.
      • dlite922, on 07/09/2008, -4/+5I joined digg only a while ago and was completely shocked at digg debunking fox, but calling 9/11 truth seekers "truthers"

        I still can't believe it. I know in every "labeled" conspiracy theory there are gullible people who believe it so much and in frustration of trying to get others to believe it "make up" evidence. This is no way relative to the actual and original evidence for the claim.

        But it seems digg (the majority) has done this.

        Why?

        I'll stop if ONE digger actually tells me exactly why building 7 fell, forget the towers, tell me why 7fell and I'll quit right here. The government doesn't have a straight consistent answer, you think you do? I'd like to know your sources.

        That's all I ask, put my heart at ease and tell me the truth. Why is that so f*ing hard?

        Tell me that my uncle and my cousin didn't die in vain instantly as innocent stand byers of the war in Iraq. (Yes, I"m a Kurd from Iraq)
      • jisrael, on 07/09/2008, -5/+4dlite922 - the burden of proof is on the conspiracy theorists, not on us. Unexplainable results occur all the time in scientific experiments that are conducted in labs under controlled conditions. We don't understand everything and when people decide to fly planes into buildings, things are going to happen that we can't explain. The only conspiracy that happened was the massive power grabs that EVERY government on Earth made after the towers fell.
      • Lukesed, on 07/09/2008, -5/+7Debris from the falling 110 story behemoth across the street caused serious structural damage, which in conjunction with a number of fires, eventually caused the collapse of the building. That easy enough?
    • CyphreDias, on 07/08/2008, -24/+6Some know there are great truths being hidden from the people. Most "conspiracy theorists" believe they are helping their society and they are trying to making the world a better place. Those who believe they are speading truth have their heart is in the right place. This simple, obvious truth seems to have escaped your superior intelligence.

      I sense this video post is staged propaganda. I sense that many commenter on this page are paid to write propaganda. BUZZ HITS LIKE AN OLD MAN. THE HEADLINE IS STUPID.
      • subliminalurge, on 07/08/2008, -5/+10I sense that you are a complete ***** idiot.
      • TheSuperunknown, on 07/08/2008, -3/+12Yes, people who disagree with you on some Digg comment thread must be government shills.
        Do you honestly wonder why people think you're ***** insane?
      • bono4u, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1@TheSuperunknown
        Some months ago there was an article about a propaganda department of the pentagon writing articles on digg to manipulate us.
    • kosser, on 07/08/2008, -24/+9see the difference is that 911 was an inside job and it has been proven time and time again. only idiots who don't believe that refuse to study the evidence. lot of these people act hard online but there nothing more than keyboard warriors. step into the octagon and we'll see, guaranteed.
      • tas08, on 07/08/2008, -3/+6Preach it keyboard warrior... But I'll just stick to believing facts. Let me know if you ever come up with a piece of evidence to support your theory.
      • bono4u, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1I try not to believe, so far with that approach there are no more facts for the corporate media/government theory as for those of us conspiracy nuts.

        IF you believe in facts, then you can't be sure that they are facts, you have to prove them for yourself. You can do that f.e. with physics. Physics tells me melting points and physics tells me what can cause molten steel. Since the towers didn't collapses by impact of the plains, they could have at least been structural damaged. But why did they collapse on the spot(both) and didn't fall to the side if there was so much structural damage?

        If you draw a 400 yards radius around the towers, how many of them did collapse? F.e. Building 7, which else? How did Building 7 collapse after what period of time with what damage through the towers which what kind of fires?

        The firemen told in both cases the towers and building 7, the fire could be under control in a reasonable amount of time? how could fire then be a reason for the collapse of either one?

        i don't claim to no the truth, but asking for it shouldn't be contemned.

        @kosser
        don't say idiots if you want to be taken seriously

        @tas08
        there are films which show the steel columns with molten edges like from controlled demolition, there were peaces of steel investigated from several chemists and physics which say there is combination of steel and a substance used for controlled demolition in it.

        http://www.apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD/01-28-05/discussi ...

        http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/moltenste ...
    • KiSA, on 07/08/2008, -20/+101) Freedom of Belief - You have the right to believe whatever you want, no matter how wrong or right it may be. I personally side with those that believe the U.S. Government had at least a bit more to do with 9/11 than what is commonly accepted but.

      2) Freedom to be a dick about it - You have the right to go about your belief in the way of your choosing; being a dick about it, however, rarely pays off. The guy in the video had the right to act like a major prick, but he suffered the consequences of it. The guy was out of line: Aldrin knocked him back in line.

      3) Freedom to post/digg what you want - If there are enough people willing to Digg it, why does it matter if it's lame/dupe/older than the internet? You don't like it, don't read it!
      • MonkeyHugger, on 07/08/2008, -5/+2You don't have the freedom when I can bury you mother *****.
    • ciaran036, on 07/08/2008, -23/+10You are an ignorant *****. There is overwhelming proof that 9/11 was an inside job if you get off your ass and look up the facts. Try Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth.
      The BBC did a documentary about WTC7 on Sunday. Although the BBC give arguments from both side, they are not able to conclude that it wasn't an inside job, because the evidence in favour of controlled demolition is overwhelming.
      • Scrigel, on 07/08/2008, -2/+5I watched the program the other day and I got the impression that they came to the exact opposite conclusion regarding controlled demolision.
      • tas08, on 07/08/2008, -3/+6They apparently were also not able to conclude it WAS an inside job moron.
    • Notasheeple, on 07/08/2008, -14/+5Ah yes 9/11. The day when the cosmos stood still and the stars aligned. Yes, I think this is the reason why this day is the mother-load, of all "coincidences."
      Answer me this you nationalists scums: Why hasn't Osama Bin Laden been charged by the F.B.I.'s most wanted list, for the attacks on 9/11? http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.h ...

      Are you a real patriot or a nationalist scum?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eC4AiGjSHM&feature ...
      • fuzzmeister, on 07/08/2008, -2/+9The 9/11 attacks haven't been added to Bin Laden's FBI wanted poster because he has never been formally charged with the attacks in a federal court. Don't you think that if the government could pull off a massive fake attack, they could fudge a court proceeding? Use your brain for once.
      • MonkeyHugger, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4I'm nationalist scum dude.
    • liquidmetalband, on 07/08/2008, -11/+8Yes, because Digg doesn't censor 9/11 stories from getting on the home page..
      • MonkeyHugger, on 07/08/2008, -4/+4Yes, they are "stories"
      • Gutterpunk, on 07/08/2008, -4/+3You mean to say that there is even more of those stupid stories that I don;t get to see?

        Thank Digg for that!
      • slvrbullet87, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6The whole idea of digg is censorship, people who don't like something bury it, thats why there are never pro McCain articles on the front page
    • rexblade, on 07/08/2008, -7/+8Dont be surprised or sucked in by this Herkimer56 troll clone/lover. That subject is entirely different then 9/11 if you have a problem with the free information available on the web then don't go there and turn on your "fair an balanced news" from Fox.
    • IceOfDiamonds, on 07/08/2008, -5/+6regardless of whether or not the conspiracy theorists are right, it doesnt mean theyre at fault or are the CAUSE of 9/11. you should be projecting your anger somewhere else. not on the people that are so hurt from 9/11 that they want accountability from anyone.

      if anyones witnessed accountability for 9/11, please post something.
      • elalonde, on 07/09/2008, -3/+3Afghanistan was held pretty accountable.
      • IceOfDiamonds, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1afgahanistan's not a person subject to punishment.
      • elalonde, on 07/26/2008, -0/+0You're trying to be cute, I get it. But you're wrong. The government of Afghanistan was held responsible for harboring Bin Laden. We gave them X days to give him up, they declined, we held the government accountable. That's a lot of people. So, I posted something. I think you're being intentionally daft.
    • terminalpariah, on 07/09/2008, -4/+5Of course it wasn't an inside job. Do you know how expensive American suicide bombers are? That's why they outsourced it.
      • chlyon, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1LOL . True damn foreigners steeling American jobs . When will it stop !
      • grinchdec23, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1LOL no kidding, consider that there are many "gangs" out there that could have taken the job,, gleefully.
    • ExplosivesWTC, on 07/09/2008, -9/+4Give it up fool. Trying to associate 9/11 and the moon landing together is so immature. 9/11 was an inside job, and the evidence is all there. The moon landing has nothing to do with 9/11.

      Maybe you actually need to see Loose Change or the film 9/11 Mysteries or even 9/11 Chronicles Truth Rising.
  • moomeep, on 07/08/2008, -9/+145sibrel got what he deserved! ***** idiot...
    • moomeep, on 07/08/2008, -1/+33oh btw, this is an excerpt from sibrel's "documentary" "a funny thing happened on the way to the moon". in this piece of crap you can see him constantly badgering and harassing the apollo astronauts.
    • IceOfDiamonds, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4i think he got punched for calling him a coward. im pretty sure buzz aldrins been exposed to all the conspiracies before.
  • AmyVernon, on 07/08/2008, -8/+135I knew I liked that Aldrin fella.
  • uptwolait, on 07/08/2008, -4/+143Ironic that Sibrel was then seeing stars.
  • cr250guy, on 07/08/2008, -6/+739Things not to call Buzz Aldrin:
    1. a coward
    2. a liar
    In that order.
    • Sairynn, on 07/08/2008, -5/+24I await the statistical analysis.
      • Miamisun, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1Flip a coin....Heads, Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads, Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads, Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads, Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads,Heads, Heads.....next flip there is 100% chance that Buzz knocks your ass out.
    • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -49/+1That may be true, but if an old man punched me in the face because of something I said to him, I would take the high road and not punch the old man back on the spot, because it would probably kill him.
      • sg7791, on 07/08/2008, -2/+27Silly salomejones, don't you know moonjuice grants immortality?
      • BOFH2, on 07/08/2008, -2/+11take the high road? Like posting on digg with anonymity and making broad accusations that really are just your opinion and trying to state them as facts?
      • Feanor, on 07/08/2008, -2/+30Buzz Aldrin could kill you with his pinky.
      • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -15/+2BOFH2: if you read my comments, youll see that there is more than enough opportunity to figure out exactly who I am. I even invite the biggest of you pricks to come meet me for a drink at my favorite pub in nyc. So far a few people have taken me up on it, and if they check their ego at the door a good time can be had by all.
      • NotOptium, on 07/08/2008, -2/+8Damn. Someone's desperate to make friends.
      • ptsuk, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1salomejonessalomejones ah in nyc that explains everything.
      • ShrimpCrackers, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Hey I live in NYC, I think a lot of New Yorkers here would take up on your offer.
    • ruddy, on 07/08/2008, -11/+13) and you're just calling the kettle black
    • LoudMusic, on 07/08/2008, -2/+8Quite possibly the best Digg comment I have ever seen.
    • pahool, on 07/09/2008, -1/+13Don't forget:

      3) And a th..ooof!!!
  • Crackerpat, on 07/08/2008, -15/+101Pow! Right in the kisser!
  • Lucas123, on 07/08/2008, -14/+406I saw this years ago. The moron making the accusations is probably half Aldrin's age, but what he didn't know is that he was dealing with an American hero that understands the meaning of honor, and wasn't going to take his idiotic crap.
    • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -71/+2Stick your american hero worship up your ass, *****. Buzz Aldrin is a hero for everyone, your murderous border arbitrating notwithstanding.
      • Quisquis, on 07/08/2008, -0/+37American? Check!

        Hero? Check!

        Just because he's a hero elsewhere in the world, doesn't mean that he's not an American Hero. In fact, he fits the definition perfectly.
    • Densonlad, on 07/08/2008, -1/+51Plus his name is BUZZ..and he's from Jersey...He's a decorated COMBAT vet...thats a powerful trifecta!
      he was asking for Buzz to punch him right in his fat mouth!
      • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -15/+4Umm...actually:

        New Jersey Native == -1000 hero points
    • gigibachorski, on 07/08/2008, -42/+3If he had any honour he wouldn't have swung.
      • Mactrekr, on 07/08/2008, -3/+22You, are a moron in the truest sense of the word. Please stop wasting oxygen.
    • Cenobite, on 07/08/2008, -3/+28Being honourable doesn't necessarily make a person right, but in this case Buzz certainly is (honourable and right).
    • CyphreDias, on 07/08/2008, -32/+1You sure know how to shovel sheet deep and wide...

      Some know there are great truths being hidden from the people. Most "conspiracy theorists" believe they are helping their society and they are trying to making the world a better place. Those who believe they are spreading truth have their heart is in the right place. This simple, obvious truth seems to have escaped your superior intelligence.

      I sense this video post is staged propaganda. I sense that many commenter on this page are paid to write propaganda. BUZZ HITS LIKE AN OLD MAN. THE HEADLINE IS STUPID.
  • SvenGeiss, on 07/08/2008, -4/+554What you need to know is that these guys in the mercury, gemini and apollo programs were military men that were hired as test pilots. every flight they had, had the 50/50 chance of not returning. they don't take ***** from anyone
    • Fozefy, on 07/08/2008, -29/+8I wouldn't say it was quite as bad as 50/50, but true enough.
    • jesusfish, on 07/08/2008, -26/+72Lower than 50/50, actually. Every successful space mission we've ever had was nothing short of a miracle.
      • Oronar, on 07/08/2008, -2/+85I'd say it was nothing short of good engineering and piloting.
      • elhaf, on 07/08/2008, -5/+49Really? Over half the Apollo astronauts were killed?
      • Cenobite, on 07/08/2008, -1/+77Sure. If you choose to call brilliant engineering, brilliant mathematics, enormous balls of solid steel, flawless planning and unmatched dedication from everyone involved miraculous, then it sure was a miracle each and every time.
      • bgrah449, on 07/08/2008, -0/+50You're going to come on digg and sell short the NASA engineers? Know your audience, man.
      • BrPyne, on 07/08/2008, -14/+2He isn't selling NASA Engineers short. The fact that we made it to the moon when we did was a miracle because of the lack of technology.
      • Pittance, on 07/08/2008, -0/+16The lack of technology we developed, used, and have been using ever since to do amazing things in space? We had the technology, or we would never have made it. If there was a program that kept sending up rockets and most of them fell out of the sky, but one of them finally made it to the moon and back, then sure, it was a miracle. But the moon landings were just good science.
      • feignNU, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10It's just a ***** turn of phrase people. I don't care if his name is jesusfish, I do not believe he intended to imply that he believed our successful space missions were only accomplished by way of miraculous divine intervention.
      • timothycrash01, on 07/08/2008, -2/+13Um, no. A miracle would be building a rocket shell and then building a red button, NOT connecting them to each other, then praying to Lord Jesus, then hitting the button and watching the rocket take off into space.

        Calling a successful space mission a miracle is totally missing the difference between faith and science.


      • Cenobite, on 07/08/2008, -0/+8@feignNU

        I understand where you're coming from, but even from a non-religious perspective the term "miracle" implies an extraordinary stroke of good luck.

        My argument is merely that that diminishes the accomplishments and hard work of the people involved. It's thanks to their expertise that luck was, for the most part, taken out of the equation.
      • feignNU, on 07/08/2008, -5/+3google "define:miracle"

        first meaning from wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn:

        "Any amazing or wonderful occurrence."

        Of course given that his name is jesusfish, maybe he DID mean it in the supernatural sense. Obviously that would be silly, but I don't think it's diminishing the work of anyone to call the space program "miraculous" in the secular sense.
      • Cenobite, on 07/08/2008, -2/+6feignNU, it's a miracle you figured out how to use Google.
      • Memitim, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2Pedantic *****. People refer to childbirth as a miracle all the time and yet it happens millions of times a year and any moron can do it. Hell, it's the morons who tend to do it more than anyone.
      • elhaf, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1Leave Britney alone!
    • Drazzim12, on 07/08/2008, -1/+14Everyone here needs to see the "NASA Missions : When We Left Earth" series. Amazing documentary.
      • ChinezePanda, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1Dude I watched that series every night it was on. Then bought 2 copies.
    • anillop, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10Add to that, the fact that he is old and doesn't need to give a *****. The man is a national hero and doesn't need to take ***** from anyone.
    • carleethian, on 07/08/2008, -4/+3When We Left Earth FTW!!!!!!!
    • pantone286, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4.....but mrs buzz aldrin.
    • IVillageIdiot, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2Additionally, Aldrin was a F-86 Saber pilot with 66 combat missions over Korea, and was able to down two Migs. He is smart too, BSc from West Point and a Doctor of Science from MIT.

      They don't make them much better than this....
  • RealmDown, on 07/08/2008, -4/+121One of the few videos that will not get old on digg.

    • smoothmann, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7This video could be on the top 10 every week and I'd punch every member of the "Old" police, right in their ***** ***** if they don't shut their ***** mouths.
  • drethedog, on 07/08/2008, -6/+96INSERT 60's BATMAN ONOMATOPOEIA....
    You are a coward, and a liar and.... CLUNK!....
  • nyrol2, on 07/08/2008, -0/+25After it replayed it in slow motion over and over again, I thought that was seeing it again.
    • tschau, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3Yeah, I had that same thought when it brought up that text..
  • iJase, on 07/08/2008, -8/+172Funniest part is that the guy calls him a coward, and then Aldrin hits him with a right-cross. I thought that was the opposite of being a coward?
    • planksconstant, on 07/08/2008, -12/+5not necessarily.
    • Phen, on 07/08/2008, -17/+10Hitting someone in the face whos not able to defend himself could very well be pretty cowardly. This guy did deserve it though.
      • Shadic, on 07/08/2008, -0/+16Not able to defend himself? Against a guy that's almost 80?
    • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -32/+4No. And old man punching a young man in the face isn't brave, it's stupid.
      • Disease, on 07/08/2008, -1/+27It's ***** awesome.
      • elhaf, on 07/08/2008, -0/+13I remember seeing some young-gun batter charge the mound against Nolan Ryan when he was pitching for the Rangers; i.e., the end of his career. Ryan beat the ***** out of him, which was one of two possible results when you charge an old man - you beat him or get beaten by him. Neither is good.
      • funkyloki, on 07/08/2008, -0/+10And walking up to someone and calling them a coward and a liar and not expecting a consequence, especially when that someone is ex-military and a former astronaut, is extremely stupid.
    • Mononuclear, on 07/08/2008, -16/+6Not that Aldrin is wrong here but cowards often use violence to hide the fact that they are cowards and try to look tough. I think someone who resorts to violence is often much more of a coward than someone who can handle a situation without violence. Sometimes walking away is much more honorable.
      • Wamzlee, on 07/08/2008, -2/+10What's the matter McFly? Chicken!

        Bawk bawk bawwww!!!
      • Mactrekr, on 07/08/2008, -3/+17I really hope you're not calling Buzz Aldrin a coward, he is a true American hero, and probably one of the bravest men on the planet, EVER! I'm so sick of namby pamby, milquetoast, peace-niks talking about handling things peaceably. There are times when the blatant, public trashing of a mans honor IS cause for violence. In the law it's called "words intended to provoke". Frankly, you call me a liar, and a coward to my face, you'd better be prepared to get clocked. I'm glad Buzz clobbered that moron.
      • Mononuclear, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1Mactrekr, did you miss the part of my comment at the first when I said Aldrin was not in the wrong here? I never called Buzz a coward or suggested he was one. I just said often people who walk away are less of cowards than those that fight for any reason.

        If you want to call me names then go for it. I don't care what your opinion of me is. I am not going to punch someone because they call me names. I would feel bad for beating up a retard. However if you try to harm me or my family I have a CCW and I might shoot you. I have nothing against violence when it is necessary. My problem is with people who go around trying to pick fights and say they will punch anyone who calls them a name or disagrees with them. That in my book is a coward.
      • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -12/+3Alright mactrekr:

        Buzz Aldrin is an ***** prick dumbass bitch. And hes lame, and he's a COWARD. His accomplishments amount to JACK *****. He is NOBODY but a pathetic old has been.

        And you're a coward and a liar, mactrekr. You heard me.

        A COWARD AND A LIAR.

        If you'd like to come clock me, you can do so nearly any thursday night at the Horseshoe Bar right here in Manhattan. I'm the one with the most tattoos. The bartender will point me out if you ask her nicely. I'll just let you do it too--but be warned: my wit is sharp and my words like venom and if you let me get one word in edgewise, you'll end up crying into your lite beer like a little girl.
      • whodat807, on 07/08/2008, -2/+6salomejones, in case you weren't aware, is quite fond of his tattoos. it makes him tough.
      • salomejones, on 07/08/2008, -6/+2Sweetheart, my tattoos aren't what make me tough. My brain is what makes me tough.
      • NotOptium, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5salome stop trying to pick fights over the internet. I'm embarrassed for you.
      • Synyk, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3mononuclear...please explain "people who go around trying to pick fights and say they will punch anyone who calls them a name or disagrees with them. That in my book is a coward."

        ok now is your book an antonym thesaurus? Someone who goes around picking fights at random might be retarded, yearning for adrenaline, have a hormone boost (steroids, for example), etc. ...but I doubt you can call him a coward... even with your whole "in denial" psychological explanation...it makes no ***** sense.

        Let me help you out:
        "coward:a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.; a timid or easily intimidated person"

        On a side note, Buzz just made my day, knocking out that obnoxious prick.
    • AllyOfReason, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Seeing as how Buzz is twice the guys' age proves Buzz has titanium balls.
  • mayhemchaos, on 07/08/2008, -48/+3"If you believe, they put a man on the moon, man on the moon" :-D
    • ProUSADigger, on 07/08/2008, -18/+6Just one of the many reasons I hate the whiny music of REM and Stipe. He is a great
      example of the modern American girly-man.

      Why are we rasing our men to be whiny, girly, EMO, anti-American bitches?
  • dudefather, on 07/08/2008, -3/+99Bang, zoom, straight to the moon!
    • chamberlanderic, on 07/08/2008, -3/+6He saws stars spinning...
    • ZincSaucier, on 07/09/2008, -0/+3he's using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife
    • btschul, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1I think about 5 diggers will get that reference, Ralphie boy.
  • Hawk117, on 07/08/2008, -4/+63Dumbass had it coming.
  • Picard102, on 07/08/2008, -30/+8As old as the internet.
    • thestranger, on 07/08/2008, -2/+15nah....Buzz is like 4 times older than the internet.
    • cheesenuggets1, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4Yet still fresh.
  • noahhoward, on 07/08/2008, -3/+17Doesn't even see it coming.
  • RandomCommenter, on 07/08/2008, -53/+3Rumour has it that Stanley Kubrick was approached to direct a moon landing. This came from Kubricks wife.....but that is just a rumour.
    • captric, on 07/08/2008, -2/+20Tell that to Buzz Aldrin
    • BattleScars, on 07/08/2008, -2/+26Right, because the most important part of faking a moon landing is artistic flare.
    • imbok, on 07/08/2008, -0/+7Not only is it from Stanley's wife, it is also completely irrelevant.
    • Quisquis, on 07/08/2008, -0/+8The key part of your sentence is right here: "Rumor has it..."
  • GhandicapXRS, on 07/08/2008, -5/+7Good show young man!
  • btschul, on 07/08/2008, -5/+347What a douche. You have every right to believe that the moon landings were fake, but you don't have the right to go up to an american hero and accuse him of being a liar or a coward, just because of your stupid conspiracy theory. If you do, you deserve whatever you get. Especially if what you get is knocked the ***** out by a guy more than twice your age.
    • jeanph01, on 07/08/2008, -48/+3Well, Buzz Aldrin is a hero if he has walked on the moon. Otherwise he is nobody. Lets see what the Chinese will be able to do on the moon in the years to come.
      • akamurph, on 07/08/2008, -3/+25What the ***** does that have anything to do with his comment?! "Lets see what the Chinese will be able to do on the moon in the years to come"... Deuche, we did that 40 years ago! Who cares?
      • grinchdec23, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1And for some odd reason, just cant seem to do it again...
    • joeanon, on 07/08/2008, -17/+5well actually you do have the right to accuse him of being a liar and coward. That's easily covered under free speech.

      In all reality as funny as it was, Aldrin clearly broke the law. That was assault.

      I'd call him a liar too if it won me 20k in a lawsuit.

      If Aldrin want to sue for slander or liable that's a different story, but you can't go off and punch someone just for being a nutball.

      • vtnerd, on 07/08/2008, -0/+6libel*
      • btschul, on 07/08/2008, -0/+6"you can't go off and punch someone just for being a nutball." - I think this clip proves you wrong.
      • fakekevinrose, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4Ok, try to find a lawyer that will press charges on an icon of American (and world) history.
      • CrazyChair, on 07/21/2008, -0/+3It would be pretty pathetic to take a 78 year old American hero to court after he punched you for harassing him in public. You would lose all respect from friends and family, and be seen as a total prick by the public.
      • govsucks, on 07/09/2008, -4/+3"but you can't go off and punch someone just for being a nutball." And now we know why we have so many big mouth nutballs running around. I say we go back to a time when you can challenge a person to a fight when they insult your honor. Then it can be a put up or shut the ***** up.

        The moon landing was faked...SMACK!

        9/11 was an inside job SMACK!

        Global Warming is going to raise sea levels 20 ft SMACK.....SMACK!

        Impeach George Bu.....SMACK!
    • pantone286, on 07/08/2008, -0/+8...and half your size.
    • hax0r, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1I didn't see the guy get knocked out, I saw him get hit pretty good.. but I didn't see him get knocked out. I know I can take a hit like that and then it's game on. That guy was huge. I really wonder what happened after Buzz threw the first punch. Even though the douche bag deserved to get punched in the face, technically Buzz hit first from what I saw. Now I don't know if the guy actually bumped into him or not, that would make a world of difference.
  • Maxmaxxwell, on 07/08/2008, -4/+93"Let's see that again!"... Even though we showed a slowmo replay of it three times already
    • RRJackson, on 07/08/2008, -0/+8I don't mind if they put it on a continuous loop for an hour.
  • Hetman, on 07/08/2008, -3/+74This video never gets old. Everytime I see Buzz punch the hell out that deuchbag it brings a smile to my face. Seriously you should not be talking ***** if you cannot back it up. But then again what does that ass with a video camera have on a man that was a test pilot and eventually the second man on the moon. Nothing.
    • dball48, on 07/08/2008, -0/+14Every time I see someone come up with a new and creative spelling of douchebag, it brings a smile to my face.
  • ProjectGSX, on 07/08/2008, -16/+51Im all for questioning the "official story".. but getting in some guys face in public and calling him names is just asking for a beating. Good shot, Buzz.
    • ptsuk, on 07/08/2008, -4/+10dugg down for "questioning the official story".
  • gllopc, on 07/08/2008, -6/+476That's one small punch for a man, and one giant punch for Mankind.
    • 1gunners4, on 07/08/2008, -10/+7Thanks for using proper grammar with the phrase. :P
    • kjmorley, on 07/08/2008, -1/+292 thumbs up!
    • brettruffenach, on 07/08/2008, -1/+10Dugg for using "a" in "a man".
    • jarklejam, on 07/08/2008, -0/+10Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind".
      Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind".
      What do these words mean ? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
      - Jack Handey
    • jsaya, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5ALDRIN PUNCH!
  • polish97, on 07/08/2008, -1/+39It's one thing to sit at home, comfy and cozy, blogging that these people never went to moon...

    Confronting an Icon of America with no tact or respect, expect to get that treatment.
    • IVillageIdiot, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2This is good point.

      This clown went out of his way to do this and God only knows what he was thinking?

      How did the idiot go from "I don't believe this happened" (a stupid enough position, but lamentably popular for some insane reason), to.... "I'm going to PROVE it by shaming this particular fighter pilot who was an aide to Billy Mitchell and who has personally flown 66 combat missions utilizing more guts, even at 72 yrs old, than most theaters full of people combined, into an on camera confession"!??!?!? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?????

      This person should be classified a menace to the public and put in an asylum.



  • belebih, on 07/08/2008, -1/+32Yeah it's an old video, but it's still oh so satisfying to see.
  • dagnabbit, on 07/08/2008, -1/+40So...what happened after? Did the dude just walk away? Cry? Inquiring minds want to know.
    • captric, on 07/08/2008, -1/+45He filed assault and battery charges against Alsrin and the prosecuting attorney decide to drop said charges.
      • ammundsen, on 07/08/2008, -1/+13I'm all for that. I think a gentleman has a right to fight someone over matters of honor. But I wonder if average citizens would be given such leniency?
      • silverharbinger, on 07/08/2008, -4/+2After Buzz hits him, the guy asks "did you get that on camera?". I don't even think he was fazed by it at all, but he was definitely looking for some evidence for a lawsuit:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akJmRC2ijmY

        Also submitter, I know it sounds funnier to say he got "knocked da' fug out" then to say the guy got punched and all, but there are plenty on the interewbs where someone gets hit and a K.O. actually happens. Also, this is old.
    • inactionman, on 07/08/2008, -2/+43Wow...my faith restored in humanity AND the law in just one thread!
    • shadeOfGrey, on 07/08/2008, -1/+72He claimed the punching was faked in a studio.
      • jbeardsl, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4OK, that one made me LOL. Best comment ever.
    • Gemfinder, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2He sat on his ass and listened to the little chirping birds.
  • TheSeekerV2, on 07/08/2008, -36/+8This is older than McCain.
  • Merendino, on 07/08/2008, -1/+121Mirrors left on the moon by hand.... 'nuff said. They use these mirrors to this day to track the distance from Earth to the Moon with lasers.