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Bye Bye TorrentSpy and ISOHunt, Both to Filter Copyrighted Content

zeropaid.com — TorrentSpy and ISOHunt plan to use a hash-based system called FileRights to automatically filter BitTorrent trackers that link to pirated content from its search results to help satisfy a suit brought against them by the MPAA for the illegal facilitation of copyrighted material.

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  • elizabethmuelle, on 10/11/2007, -6/+100Havent used ISOHunt in a while but, TorrentSpy was good for finding TV shows. Oh well, guess I'll just have to keep getting my "Desperate Housewives" fix elsewhere.
    • BLyn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+76I was about to make fun of you. Then i realized I've downloaded all of the seasons of the OC.
    • borninda818, on 10/11/2007, -2/+41May I suggest the pirate bay. The TV section is very helpful and convenient. And that isn't going down anytime soon.
      • jjesusfreak01, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24Im going to laugh when all that is left is TPB. They are indestructible, and if they release an anonymizing filesharing client, then the MPAA and RIAA are going to be hitting themselves for killing off the other trackers.
        • mubix, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7They aren't too smart, to say the least.
    • tonaros, on 11/14/2007, -0/+65ISOHunt was amazing. I cry.
    • riddlebox, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15Torrentspy was filled with spyware and virus's. The least trusted torrent location I have found, and no I was not looking for pron.

      Cough"demonoid" Cough...registrations open on the weekend.
      • h4mx0r, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4demonoid went down last night and I freaked.

        I thought some fate had befallen demonoid while I wasn't watching!
        • noerrorsfound, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4You jinxed it.
          http://demonoid.com/
          "We had a system problem which will force us to restore everything from backup.
          The disks are pretty much empty right now and until we are able to upload the backup and set up everything up, we have to close down.

          We'll be back as soon as possible. Sorry for the inconvenience."
      • dranire, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0It's open one random weekend a month usually, sometimes a week. They keep changing it, they should make Demonoid invite only.
    • reiner15, on 10/11/2007, -2/+30http://www.eztvefnet.org/frontpage.php
      • rifkida, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Could we not all start announcing the sites where we get torrents from? Do we all want them to get shutdown or in trouble.
        • Damien79, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1quick! remind google not to index them while you are at it
    • ltworek, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4Find someone that will invite you to bitmetv.org
      • hellotyler, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Pipe down genius, the reason these sites go down is because of too much publicity.
      • fuzed, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@ltworek

        Yeah, umm... If that's a private torrent tracker, I'm sure they just love you publicizing their URL all over Digg.

        Prepare to be banned, bud.
      • mtrip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9How the ***** can they know who Itworek is, and how to find his obsucre comment buried among a hundred comments and doubly buried by digg's new comment system? They're bitmetv, not the ***** CIA.
    • psycho79, on 10/11/2007, -2/+33Try http://www.mininova.org
      • christian689, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2no other site even comes close to mininova maybe torrentspy but i guess they are done now, id also recommend fulltorrent.net which is a great torrent site searcher.
      • xptical, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1MiniNova pisses me off. Go to the GAMES section and sort by seeders. The first 10 or so hits are demos or "free seeds" like PlaneShift. Nothing entirely wrong with it, but it still makes it a bit harder to get to the creamy center of piraty goodness.
    • Nossie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7oh well :( bye bye isohunt *cries*
    • pifko1987, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1www.v3.newzbin.com
      • samsite, on 10/11/2007, -0/+131st rule about newsgroups.....
        • Speed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Same as the 2nd rule?
        • Ac1d, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1I'm kinda curious about these rules. I don't see why more people using it would be bad.. wouldn't it be good since more content would be
        • Speed, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Acid, the more people that know about them, the more crap you get and the more likely the authorities learn about them.
        • arcooke, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Usenet has been around since 1980, I'm pretty sure the authorities are very aware of their existence by now.
      • pifko1987, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0***** sorry Tyler.
    • capiCrimm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12as soon as someone gets around this though, can't you use this to your defense? But ISOHunt filtered out the copyright stuff, so I assumed it was okay. They are taking the onus probandi from the user here. I don't know how much it works in law, but from previous discussion's about software law I remember that it might carry an tinsy bit of weight.

      I don't use either, though, so pointless to me too.
      • ultrafez, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Am I just being thick, but for example with a video file, if you just add a single frame at the start or end of the video, won't it completely change the hash of the content, therefore making it easy to bypass the FileRights system? But then again, I guess they've thought of that already...
    • TriSight, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4Best place for TV shows are www.tvtorrents.com

      It's credit based, so you'll have to upload a few things to make some credit, and the site is buggy every now and then.. but it's where you can find lots of different TV shows.
    • berktt, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1I guess everybody has their best place... For the most recent releases, I swear by my private tracker, RevolutionTT. Still though, I used TorrentSpy occasionaly for older files... a loss for the P2P community.
    • dejavood0o, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2Like TriSight said tvtorrents.com is the most amazing private tracker for TV shows.
    • oprahsTITS, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Pussies.. Move the servers to Sweden or Myanmar.

      Don't crumble to the MPAA.
    • counterstriker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1go here ----> Fenopy.com
    • xxNIRVANAxx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2RIP ISOhunt (never used torrentspy personally). But to be honest, the fakes were getting out of hand. On new releases (I'm talking movies here), you'd have to weed through up to 10 fakes before getting a decent release.

      As for TV: If your still getting new TV shows manually, you need to get out of the stone age. Use RSS and eztvefnet.org or tvrss.net to get your shows to download as soon as they're released. Alas: I used IH to get complete seasons of shows once they were done airing.
    • spotmonk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Desperate Housewives is available for free and legally on ABC.com... or at least the newer ones are.
      I switched to that after it started... I decided I could wait a few more hours till it posted online to avoid having to find it, and download it.
      That said... for tv shows that aren't readily available online.. I suggest using utorrent and tvrss.net
      There's also tvtorrents.com... if you want torrents of entire older seasons of shows
    • BrokenVisage, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Desperate Housewives is an awesome show
    • themastersb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Bit torrent Junkie works for me.
    • chrisc801, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3tvrss.net
    • random19, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1ScrapeTorrent. Why would you bother going to another torrent site?
    • kevro, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3http://sharetv.org/shows
    • doubledoh, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2TVRSS is probably the best, for tv:
      http://tvrss.net/
    • jeriqo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1...or just watch the TV / buy the DVDs...
      • Kussie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Yeah that be a grand option. You know if television networks down here in Australia weren't 2 or 3 series behind, played episodes in order, put them on a decent hour, stopped moving time slots around so much, didn't have more and more ads and started running shows on time.
    • MisterFlaut, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1"I'll just have to keep getting my "Desperate Housewives" fix elsewhere."

      LOL, fag.

      ...oh wait, you're female. Bah.

      "I'll just have to keep getting my "Desperate Housewives" fix elsewhere."

      But you aren't!

      LOL, fag.
  • metalica77, on 10/11/2007, -21/+8Torrentspy Has alread Sold out


    http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4858/torrentspynv0.png
    • Anrkist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+35Okay... first off your handle has the word "metalica" in it, do not use the term sell-out, or get another name.

      Second, I can't fault ISOhunt or Torrentspy for doing what they need to, to survive. I talk to some of the people who run ISOhunt and they are a decent group of people who have been providing a free service for several years. I'd sell out in a second, if it kept me from going to jail due to pirating. After all, it's just movies and software... is that really worth going to jail over? No. If you think it is, run a torrent site in the US... see how long you can handle the constant pressure.
    • pifko1987, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8lol, Metallica

      What a hypocrite.
    • evildeadman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8If you took that screenshot, well, then I just have to say: "Your IP is showing". Might want to fix that.
  • crazybugger, on 10/11/2007, -17/+5Bye Bye freedom.
    • ShrimpCrackers, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Well no loss of freedom. If anything, TorrentSpy and IsoHunt are simply just filtering out half their users.
  • TheFBI, on 10/11/2007, -16/+107http://www.btjunkie.org/
    • majin23x, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15I don't know if I should digg you up cause that site is great (been using it for a long time) or digg you down for posting it here.
    • Shakermaker, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1Yeah, great work dumbass - give them another target
      • cbreaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It's not like a Google search would have found it anyways..
      • potp, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1are you a retard. they already know about this site. If you want good warez ***** then best to join a forum where people ***** their stuff.

        Also rule 1 & 2 of these forums. if you know the rules then only are you worthy of knowing the link.
    • zetra005, on 10/11/2007, -5/+0see http://hotshadow.com/TorrentSpy_and_ISOHunt.aspx
    • coldskool, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2stfu *****.
  • meshman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+373It should read:

    "TorrentSpy and ISOHunt to shut down because they are now useless "
    • Shade00a00, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Isohunt's official response, posted today :

      First of all, we do filtering on links that's been identified for various reasons. It maybe virus infected files in torrents, it maybe copyright owners requesting takedown of links to their material. For copyright takedowns, we've long had a copyright policy and procedure for it. This is not censorship on content, this is filtering for identified abuse. Although DMCA has often been used as a way to censor, that's a problem with the DMCA and the "request and takedown" regime itself, and the way some websites blindly accept takedown requests.

      While I claim to be no saint, we do random sampling on requested links and verify against the identity of the owner requesting their takedown. We have on occasions rejected requests due to situations like music companies requesting takedown of torrents that looks like porn. That also goes into problems of how do you know whether torrents are what they claim to be by their filenames, but that's another issue.

      On the recent news of our partnership with FileRights.com, some clarification on a lot of misinformed reporting and comments. We haven't started using their database yet, the system is still being developed. The idea is to take some pain away from the current "email takedown request, verify links, respond" process to "establish identity as copyright holder or its agent once, use API's to automate the requests, and we random sample the legitimacy of the requests". Nothing more or less is done to our copyright policy for filtering based on identified, unauthorized links to copyrighted works. It's not DRM and it's not censorship. It's to automate the process so it's easier for content owners (request once instead of 100 different BitTorrent trackers and sites), and easier for us (verify and process once for multiple sites, and no need for legalese in emails).

      If you don't like it, take it up with your congressmen about the DMCA if you are in the US. Or, seed torrents of stuff that you produced, and no problems for any of us. Wink Bram Cohen did say something about BitTorrent not designed for piracy, and I think he's right.
    • Mirag3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well, hold on now, did you read about the supposed tracking system they are going to use? It's not exactly fool proof. If I understand their hashing system correctly, it could be defeated by a random number/data generator - people have been doing this for years in encryption: it's called a "salt." By appending a certain amount of random data to the beginning or end of the file, the hash will be completely defeated, but if the salt is constructed in a specific way it shouldn't interfere with the actual file contents.
  • AmishRefugee, on 10/11/2007, -1/+228I wonder if the MPAA/RIAA/Nazis have figured out yet that if you kill a massive torrent site, 5 more will spring up and takes its place. I mean, that's been happening for years now.
    • psyjoniz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4yeah, i don't think the cat and mouse game is going to end any time soon..
    • mtvkilledusall, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6It's like a hydra!
      • MarkOfTheDead, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1god i hate those things so much.

        red water of life FTW.
    • ultrafez, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1But generally, the new torrent sites that spring up are never as good as their predecessors...
      • AmishRefugee, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1generally, yeah. RIP Phoenix Torrents...
    • ciram, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1So guys... You seem to know more than I do, what do I replace my ISOHunt bookmark with? I really liked the way it was set up.
    • loconet, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They don't understand they're herding cats .. as joe would say, they are trying to take piss out of a pool.
    • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1YEs. Torrent sites are liek the hydra if Greek Mythology. These asshats have been at it for a while and they still don't get it.
  • justahuman, on 10/11/2007, -5/+78another reason to start using private trackers ...
    • suranwrap, on 10/11/2007, -7/+0And 90% of the time they are faster!
    • Kwipper, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Yes, but you cannot find them, or get in them.
      • speaker219, on 10/11/2007, -12/+4http://demonoid.com/
        If you want an invite, email me: speaker219 -at- gmail -dot- com
        • cbreaker, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I should report you to demonoid for posting that. It's against their rules to offer invites willy-nilly.
          • speaker219, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Sorry, didn't know that was against there tos, no more invites, sry guys
          • noerrorsfound, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2As far as I know it's not against Demonoid's rules to offer invitations, seeing as they were okay with this:
            http://demonoidinvitationcode.com/

            Demonoid isn't a private tracker. You can sign up on weekends. The reason they don't have open registration all the time is because of server load/traffic, I believe.
      • gal3on64, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2While we're at this subject.. anyone have any oink invites? fakrecordz -at- gmail -dot- com
      • bhattsan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1http://bitsoup.org
    • Twinked, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Unless you've got AT&T as an ISP then they're all blocked anyways. AT&T decided it was going to be the pirate police.
    • kris33, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Once you get into a good private tracker, it is really easy to get membership on other private trackers.

      On good private trackers, you max your speed. It feels so great to download stuff with several MB per second.

      Start your journey here:

      www.filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invutes-90/
    • jeriqo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4huh? private means you have to register, nothing more.
      They are not imune to the RIAA.

      The same could happen to demonoid.
    • darushin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I love how people think those trackers are safe. Almost all trackers out there that are private have a fatal flaw, they require you to be invited. Because they require you to be invited, most people are far more trusting. As a example for a school essay on P2p, I was able to actually get invited to 15 private tracker sites in a manner of 3 weeks by people I didn't even know beyond a few irc chats. As someone above mentioned, once you get on one everyone assumes your safe and this is another reason why private trackers are just as bad as public ones. Had I been a cop or some flunky of the **AA I prolly would have had a couple of thousand IPs to forward to the Legal teams.
      • deadlikeoscar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1That's true, but a lot of the time the RIAA doesn't mess with them because they are harder to get into and therefore have fewer members. They like to go for the big targets because they affect more users. Public trackers take enough of their time to shut down; therefore, you rarely see a private one get shut down.
  • eightbitgirl, on 10/11/2007, -1/+62oh well, it's not like there aren't a billion others out there anyway.
    • Shadow503, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1If they're using a hash based system, couldn't you open up the file in a hex editor and change one byte? Then it would have a completely different hash! Or even easier: You could through the file in a .zip archive with some random text file. This new system would be completely worthless!
  • Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -0/+211Piracy: The RIAA/MPAA's own personal game of whack-a-mole.
    • 98acura, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Got an actual laugh from that.
    • Treshnell, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Thanks.
    • PurpleDingo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+0Damn they just replayed that one lol.
    • PurpleDingo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Damn they just replayed that one lol.
    • MrFatalistic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I'm surprised that people use the new drop down menus just to digg down people, lol.

      some idiot with wayyy too much time will now digg me down.
  • hydroplane, on 10/11/2007, -6/+76Awwww man, ISOhunt rules!
  • Xenogis, on 10/11/2007, -7/+28It's no big deal. We have The Pirate Bay and Demonoid which were better anyway.
    • ilovenicotine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14piratebay has the worse search ever, they really need to incorporate google or something better into their site.
      torrentspy was in my opinion, the best, although I'd be happy to accept a an invite to demoniod for a comparison.
    • TheSeraph, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Yeah as soon as Demonid fixes their bunk servers. Sites been down for a few days now.
      • cbreaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ugh. I didn't notice they were down hard like that.. I hope it's really as they say, temporary while they restore from Backup. They've been the only torrent site I use because they use a simple ratio system, which keeps people seeding and honest. I've almost always been able to get whatever torrents I've downloaded without problems.
    • Bekey, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1If I could ever get a Demonoid invite code!!! Or if they'd just reopen registration!!
    • pillfred, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3they open registration from time to time. I think its on the weekends.
    • dodus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
    • msjo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2seriously....
    • RobotChicken1, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1Demonoid is where most of the torrents I download seem to come from anyway, at least according to the readme files. I'll just use them.
    • thatguyernie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1i agree with dogus
      SHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • golddigga, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1thats *****. isohunt is (was) the best
  • fallenone05, on 10/11/2007, -4/+31goodbye my lover, goodbye my friend...
    • cplex, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I don't need the whole song... I just want to taste it.
  • DeusNova, on 10/11/2007, -5/+40As long as they don't take demonoid, TPB or mininova down i doubt nothing will be affected. =).
    • Sambone67, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Doing some maintenance, that's all.
    • dodus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Any other torrent sites are really "hip" right now there DuesNova? (takes out notebook and pen)
    • iamshades, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2TPB is ***** invincible (until Sweden changes their law, but i don't think they're anything like the United States)
      • init100, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1TPB has learned from the raid a year ago and will now be even quicker in moving to another country. According to their spokespersons, they have offsite backups in several countries.
  • Escamotage, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8I'm not a clever at finding torrents. I mainly used Torrentspy and ISOhunt. Any recommendation?
    • Loaferz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8scrapetorrent, or get some rep and go private.
      • specialK16, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Get some rep as in upload more than you download? That doesn't work for me since my upload speed is really crappy (I got good download speed though :)
        • offput, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Everyone's upload is crappy unless you wanna shell out $500/month for a T1 or some other synchronous service. Just upload for longer than you download.
    • Scyth3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19Just keep refreshing your browser and look at the comments
    • reddevil3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I use www.torrentz.com because it searches multiple torrent sites....mininova, btmon, btjunkie, etc. etc.
    • Shando, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2ThePirateBay, Mininova, Torrentz
    • felkor, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Google works great too. Just add the word torrent to the end of your search. It won't search piratebay and demonoid (also 2 very good sites) but it will search through most of the other torrent sites.
    • Cerebral, on 10/11/2007, -0/+27Shhhh... can't everyone see that Escamotage is really RIAA in disguise?
    • tsugaru, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Torrents.to You are able to search about 10 or more sites at the same time... Also has a list of user rated specialty torrent sites...
    • Rizin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Demonoid.com. Keep your eye on them for when they open registration
  • TylerLavite, on 10/11/2007, -14/+3***** the RIAA and the MPAA I'm so tired of there *****. more people need to just stick up to them assholes and tell the NO. our freedom on the Internet is slowly dieing a slow death.
    • stargatesteve, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1-1, troll
    • arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1i was going to digg you down for your spelling, but then I thought maybe you're not american. so i just left it alone.
    • TheG2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Your freedom to steal just got eroded a little bit, nothing else was affected, and who the hell used public trackers anymore?
    • fef560, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's illegal you *****
  • parkermauney, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1http://torrentbox.com IS isohunt with blueness.
  • MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Wow all this and Demonoid has crashed too. Not to mention i think TorrentBytes has booted me... waaaaaaa
  • speaker219, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2http://scrapetorrent.com/Search/
    http://demonoid.com/
    • mpdickso, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1scrapetorrent is essentially useless, they just feed off other site including 'torrentspy and isohunt'...look under 'preferences'
  • pr0phet491, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5Bye torrentspy..we love you :'(.
    • arcooke, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3No we don't. That website is run by *****.
  • dathutmeballs, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1now my pr0n collection will cease to increase!!!!
    • rushcatus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0puretna.com or .org, cant quite remember and im at work so im not gonna try it
  • Scyth3, on 10/11/2007, -6/+36http://thepiratebay.org/
  • jimcarrey363, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1072 down.... 45,645,092,831,043 more to go RIAA/MPAA

    Get cracking...
  • Loaferz, on 10/11/2007, -10/+1again, who the hell would use public trackers? You're just asking for the MPAA or RIAA to be knocking on your door. oink and 264 FTW!
    • fugazi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5O yes because we all know how easy it is to get into private trackers...
    • DryMaltExtract, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Because they can't sign up to private trackers too! Oh wait... you're a moron.
    • Avalontor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1If everyone used private trackers wouldn't that make them public trackers?
  • CYR1X, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16isohunt :( r.i.p.
  • dvddesign, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10I thought it was being filtered.

    http://isohunt.com/latest.php?mode=bt

    There's movies posted there on the listings page.
    • steven401, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Maybe those movies aren't in their 'hash database' or it hasn't been set up yet.
  • XanthusTS, on 10/11/2007, -9/+6Torrentspy and isohunt have been complying to DMCA requests since DAY ONE. Why does everyone think that making a repository is the end of all? This article is completely biased. /inaccurate
  • CheapDigWannbe, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4We- the people of the internet will gonna have to use secret names. Instead of naming a torrent "GTA IV (PC) Reloaded" we'll be using "Jack's Enemy IV (PC) ..." Filter that Isohunt!
    • kryx2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4First of all, it's the MPAA and RIAA that wants them to filter (movie and music -- not games). Second, it's a hash, so no matter what you name the file, the hash will still be the same...
    • mike17032, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Way to not even read the ***** description. Its a hash based filter, meaning it looks at the file itself and could give a ***** about the name.
    • ScrewedThePooch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Zip the file, and add a random text file to the zip. GG, hash!!
  • bizsumpark182, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Some of these facts need to be double checked. Check out http://isohunt.com/ before you jump to any conclusions.
  • Splitt3rxx, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3that sucks, I've been using ISOhunt a lot.
  • theshaze, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14I vote we ban corporations from using the internet altogether...
    • Kwipper, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Umm.. then we wouldn't have places like Google and Yahoo and umm... ISP's for giving us internet.
      • dRuNk3nIrIsHmEn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They can be allowed to provide!
    • DrIce926, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ok, I shall revise theshaze's law to only include massive, out-of-touch corporations that have barely a ***** idea what the internet is about.

      Google "The Cluetrain Manifesto". Good, old document. I bought it and then lost it, but it's online too. Maybe someone else is reading it right now!
  • ultra_lime, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Welcome to the new exiting strategy for threaded Torrent sites.
  • Zowsky, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21Correct me if I'm wrong but if its just comparing Hashes, all it takes is one change to the file/zip (like add a .nfo) and the Hash won't be the same as the original. So won't it be easy to bypass this filter?
    • keithmcbride, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9you must be the only one commenting who knows what a "hash" is...

      fools
    • praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -1/+4Shh...don't give away the secret. As long as the MPAA thinks they're complying...
    • Skooma714, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10A dish containing potatoes and various meats and vegetables?
    • Hubajube, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5It's putting the burden of locating offending files on the MPAA. The whack-a-mole game will involve nfo changes like you mentioned coming and going. I'd assume the MPAA would then seed fake versions of the same movies.
    • Hubajube, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0double
    • steelmaverick, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2A hash is a message of any given length put though an algorithm to produce a digest, which is f only one single defined length. If the input changes in any way, then the digest would be different.

      I'm probably the only commenter thats Security+ certified, lol.
      • offput, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You're probably also the only Security+ certified person to use "lol."
      • Mirag3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Other people work in application security and cryptography too, stop being a jackass.
      • daftman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Nah, you're not the only one. Others just keep quiet and don't like to show off.
    • Katana314, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I actually have a doubt that the RIAA will me able to keep up with it all. You're going to see torrents up for weeks before they're taken down.
    • awakenDeepBlue, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1...

      Wow, even though I'm several years behind the tech curve, I didn't know that!
  • celinad, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1No problem. Now I can use the other services that I have been ignoring.
  • Danjamin, on 10/11/2007, -8/+16***** RIAA making it harder for me to steal their intellectual property. Where do they get off? This is America.
  • MrZaiko, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8is ok Mininova had all the torrentspy torrents +more =)
  • Bekey, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2I'm a total moron when it comes to doing this, and I've been using ISOhunt! How does one go about finding a private tracker? Pardon my ignorance!!
  • rooftopsuicide, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2man, people need to stop name-dropping sites on Digg comments. the Copyright nazis absolutely and undisputedly troll sites like these looking for new targets that they may not know about yet. naming sites like ***nova, or whatever are just adding to the 'next target' list. don't be surprised when they pop up as filtered or banned or whatever next.
    • DCUK, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You say that like they don't already know, idiot!
    • dweeb79, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4LOL that is the lamest thing EVER. Whether private or public they know about all the sites that you know and the sites you don't even know about. The MPAA has hired organizations that go around doing exactly that, infiltrating sites and then kicking back waiting till enough infringement has been monitored and then pouncing on their prey.
    • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4they know about em regardless unless it's an ultra private hush "fight club" site... so i wouldn't worry about such in here.
    • ThreeDee912, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Uhm...
      http://www.google.com/search?q=torrent
  • iamjames, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3you could just search all of them at once at http://www.fulltorrent.net
  • compgeek, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1DAMN! ISOhunt was awesome. I guess I'll have to rely on mininova and thepiratebay now
  • loganz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9I hope this doesnt include pornographic material
    • thedreaming1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It doesn't. Piracy for the adult industry is free advertising. People are more loyal to their favorite porn star than they are to their favorite actor or actress, loyal to the point where they'll buy a porn dvd or a regular movie dvd. What a strange world we live in...
      • MarkOfTheDead, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1on account of pronstars not acting like the most notorious of orifices, they just utilize it.
  • swoopdog, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4[cough]http://www.fulltorrent.net/ [/cough]

    edit: beaten
  • MGustafson, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Quote from ISOHUNT.COM mainpage blog:

    First of all, we do filtering on links that's been identified for various reasons. It maybe virus infected files in torrents, it maybe copyright owners requesting takedown of links to their material. For copyright takedowns, we've long had a copyright policy and procedure for it. This is not censorship on content, this is filtering for identified abuse. Although DMCA has often been used as a way to censor, that's a problem with the DMCA and the "request and takedown" regime itself, and the way some websites blindly accept takedown requests.

    While I claim to be no saint, we do random sampling on requested links and verify against the identity of the owner requesting their takedown. We have on occasions rejected requests due to situations like music companies requesting takedown of torrents that looks like porn. That also goes into problems of how do you know whether torrents are what they claim to be by their filenames, but that's another issue.

    On the recent news of our partnership with FileRights.com, some clarification on a lot of misinformed reporting and comments. We haven't started using their database yet, the system is still being developed. The idea is to take some pain away from the current "email takedown request, verify links, respond" process to "establish identity as copyright holder or its agent once, use API's to automate the requests, and we random sample the legitimacy of the requests". Nothing more or less is done to our copyright policy for filtering based on identified, unauthorized links to copyrighted works. It's not DRM and it's not censorship. It's to automate the process so it's easier for content owners (request once instead of 100 different BitTorrent trackers and sites), and easier for us (verify and process once for multiple sites, and no need for legalese in emails).

    If you don't like it, take it up with your congressmen about the DMCA if you are in the US. Or, seed torrents of stuff that you produced, and no problems for any of us. Wink Bram Cohen did say something about BitTorrent not designed for piracy, and I think he's right.
    • MechaFenris, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No, BitTorrent was designed to share porn. :)

      Still, the DMCA is a huge hammer that (if Felten had his way would've been struck down in appeal as UN-constitutional... but the entertainment cartel blinked..) if used sparingly, would be fine... but the use of the DMCA, or rather abuse, is getting out of hand. And this is not necessarily an example of it, however it is not the best use of the DMCA (at least not from a normal perspective.)

      As long as they stay away from my free content and Linux ISO torrents, they can have their crapola. It's mindless entertainment. It's NOT essential...

      When they realize their relevancy is purely based on the whims of the people, they'll stop being such arrogant pricks... Or not... their M.O. seems to be shoot foot with cannon.

  • otero1, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1Two of the best private trackers:
    http://www.Torrent-Damage.net
    http://www.AradiTracker.com
  • Gadren, on 10/11/2007, -1/+40Every time the MAFIAA tries to crush torrent sites, I just feel a stronger desire to pirate.
    • ScrewedThePooch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It just shows to all of us that they are pissed, and we are doing our part correctly.
  • sirmasterboy, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Newsgroups will always be better.
    Faster Speeds, no required uploading, and the earliest releases.
    • cbreaker, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Ohh, it depends.

      Even if you use EasyNews's notoriously easy web interface, it can still be a chore to sift through all the newsgroups and search for what you're looking for. I've been finding that I can actually get when I want easier from Torrents lately then Newsgroups - partially because popular torrents will be around for many months, whereas binary newsgroups fall off after a month or so. (sometimes much less on smaller news services.)
    • kris33, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I don't like paying for warez. Torrents max my line and are both easier and free.
      • sirmasterboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Most ISP's give free access to newsgroups and i find it easy enough to just use binsearch.info to search through it all
        • kris33, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Most ISP's give free access to newsgroups, but most ISP's filter out the bin-groups at the same time.

          Par-files and such is just a big hassle.
    • JohnboiWaltune, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3f*ck RAR's, PAR's, and all that B.S. How many times have I not been able to get a movie/album because I'm missing .R14 or whatever? A lot.
      • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I haven't had that problem since I stopped using usenet newsgroups. :-) SOunds liek you are still using them.
    • Mekun, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1If you have problems figuring out NG's your a moron.Whiny bitches that need everything figured out for them so they dont have to think.
  • speaker219, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2The best private tracker (IMHO) with loads of TV shows and other stuff:
    http://demonoid.com/
    The site is down right now but usually never is.
    If you want and invite, email me at: speaker219 -at- gmail -dot- com
    • cbreaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You, again, posting your information for an invite code. You're just asking to be banned from Demonoid.
      • speaker219, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ah, sorry, didn't know that was against their TOS. sorry guys, i won't be giving out any invites
      • kris33, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hahahahaha. You count Demonoid as a private tracker. Demonoid is not private at all. And its speed sucks too.

        Private trackers are named things like... damn... I can't risk saying their names!
      • killgore7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0@speaker

        What a pussy.
  • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -4/+43All of you should comment in the ISOHunt forum as well as I have:


    http://isohunt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=247878#247878

    Sorry but I disagree completely with this.

    It's not a matter of piracy.. or even the MPAA's insane *****.

    It's the basic principle that I am Canadian as is this site.. and therefore the DMCA being an AMERICAN law should have no bearing whatsoever here and the MPAA cannot sue a Canadian for not abiding by American laws.

    The Americans are just being bigger and bigger bullies...

    I for one refuse to support bowing to the USA.. and in this case it's sad to see ISOHunt bend over and kiss their ass..

    Esp since they have no chance of winning such a lawsuit based on the DMCA. (Same as they had zero chance with TPB)

    We MUST stand up and fight against such stupidity... and the US needs to learn where it's own borders end! (Helms Burton anyone??)

    As for the filtering system and legalities.. remember that in CANADA that I am legally allowed to download a TV show etc regardless of what the DMCA says. (One of the side effects of the media levy they forced on us before)... therefore by enabling any system to filter based on a DMCA premise is ISOHunt endorsing and adopting US law.

    All I can say is GROW SOME BALLS.... honestly you have lost massive points for this lunacy.
    • cbreaker, on 10/11/2007, -10/+3Ohh, get over the whole USA SUCKZ thing, already. It's not the US it's just the place where these corporations happen to HQ. If they were all based out of Canada, believe me things would be reversed. But the fact is, Canada is a very small country in terms of population. 33M people in all of Canada. 301M people in the US.

      If you don't like the US policies (and I certainly don't) then at least you should technically be in a better position to make your voice heard in a much smaller country, right?
      • RobotChicken1, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4"It's not the US it's just the place where these corporations happen to HQ."

        This is the only part of your dumbass comment I liked.
    • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Hmm that's funny..... laws that cause such issues and the trying to enforce such outside the US border:

      Helms Burton & DMCA

      Both of which the US has repeatedly tried to force on the rest of the world.....

      ie:

      Forcing Oz to extradite the leader of DOD for "crimes against US corporations" even though he never set foot within the US.

      The US trying to extradite Marc Emery to the US for "crimes" when he has done nothing in the US. (And this is being fought big time.. unlike the pussy's from oz)

      Arresting Dmitry Sklyarov for "DMCA" violations.. even though such was NOT done within the US borders and it was his job to bypass the Adobe BS due to such being illegal in Russia...

      Laws Canada has passed and tried to force on the rest of the world:

      NONE..

      Hmm I seem to notice a trend here...

      So take your "get over it" and shove it up your ass moron... instead of bitching at my pointing out the TRUTH perhaps you should get off your fat ass and fight against such ***** happening in YOUR country..

      btw: population of Canada or the US is irrelevant to this arguement.
    • philconow, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11People that say such things as "get over the whole USA SUCKZ thing", are part of the problem here in America because America does truly suck right now.
    • MechaFenris, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1No, they're not philconow... they are less than zealous about the idea of pissing on one's country. Europe's just as bad... and getting worse with the EU's reach. If you don't believe me, continue to notice that "America sucks" while the rest of the world (_most_ of which without our help) is sucking ass end right now too.
    • gnawph2, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Man, ***** you.

      Your post makes it sound like your ok with stealing copyrighted material produced by American companies with American workers but against following any laws protecting that work from theft.

      Yeah, our entire media industry is yours for the taking. We'll just open that ***** right up so you can take what you want. ***** off.
      • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Actually gnawph2 I am 100%+ OK with it since they forced us to pay a levy on blank media to "compensate" for downloading
        and now they're po'd that that in essence gave everyone in Canada a license to DL for free. Therefore by their own doing we have the legal right to do so.. :P

        So they can KISS MY ASS.
        • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1If these netwroks would make their shows available on thier own sites for download at a decent quality peopel woudl be more than happy to downlaod them direct from their site. I wouldn't mind an ad or two placed in there or whatever. Do they do this? Nope. I'm don't see my downloading an episoide of a show a few days after it aried on TV as theft of any kind. They air ths ***** for free. They just want us to watch the ads. Like I said before I have no problem with downlaoding good quality versions from their site with ads. But you calling this theft is crazy.
        • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3If these netwroks would make their shows available on thier own sites for download at a decent quality peopel woudl be more than happy to downlaod them direct from their site. I wouldn't mind an ad or two placed in there or whatever. Do they do this? Nope. I'm don't see my downloading an episoide of a show a few days after it aried on TV as theft of any kind. They air ths ***** for free. They just want us to watch the ads. Like I said before I have no problem with downlaoding good quality versions from their site with ads. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who feels like this. But you calling this theft is crazy and misleading. It's also legally incorrect.
        • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Actually you are not that far off I'd say.. but the corporate mentality and lawyer ***** kill things every time..

          like my going to HBO's site for a friend to get her a wallpaper for "The L Word" and even to get their site I had to bypass their IP filter for Americans only...
          complete total *****.,.


          So in my case since they effectively gave Canadians a License to DL I do so freely w/o commercials and give them a big middle finger. :)
      • tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Wait, America is the only place that produces TV shows? Maybe he's downloading Canadian shows, sherlock.
      • seanoneil14, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0gnawph2 just stop while you are already way, way behind
    • po43292, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5"The Americans are just being bigger and bigger bullies..."
      As an American I agree.
  • amacinnis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I'll stick with Oink.me.uk, thank you very much. A shame, though. isoHunt was the only public tracker I actually used with any semblance of regularity.
  • NecroSexy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Demonoid owns...when it's not down. :=]
  • lessew, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2People actually use public trackers?!
    • alwilson, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0The problem with private trackers is how do you get an invite?
      • MarkOfTheDead, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1message a user and have something to bring to the table.
      • drummer1189, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1or just show the community your worth an invite by idling in their irc channel or something.
        demonoid holds open registrations randomly so check the site every day and youll be able to register someday
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