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blog.digg.com — "But now, after seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, you ’ve made it clear. You’d rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company. We hear you, and effective immediately we won’t delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be."
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- aflury, on 11/15/2007, -105/+3269Well said. Can we move on now?
- PopeAmadeus, on 11/11/2007, -235/+68Bout damn time.
- jkleinfeld, on 10/22/2007, -14/+1Boring. Old News.
- L4WL3RS34L, on 10/22/2007, -3/+7In other news...this new comment system sucks!
- Nevresim, on 10/22/2007, -3/+0http://www.nurceyizevtekstili.com
- LastHand, on 01/09/2008, -3/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
- Walkboss, on 10/22/2007, -4/+2The comment that time forgot!
- L4WL3RS34L, on 10/22/2007, -3/+7In other news...this new comment system sucks!
- jkleinfeld, on 10/22/2007, -14/+1Boring. Old News.
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -114/+1525It is now safe to praise Kevin Rose again.
- cyberpope, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Aint it the Truth.
- cyberpope, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Aint it the Truth.
- rstarr, on 10/30/2007, -15/+8DiggKiller is a bitch....
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- MrStabby, on 11/12/2007, -125/+1119Man, I hope so...
I truly cannot believe how many people decided they were going to stand up (while sitting down mind you) for a cause that 50% of them were not going to actively participate in anyway. If "protesting" or "sticking it to the man" as they call it, is in fact possible by simply clicking your mouse a few hundred times then I for one welcome our new carpal-tunnel ridden overlords.
IF we're all done acting like 5 year olds, I'm sure someone's got a great picture of a cute kitten in a computer to submit.
That's REAL Digg frontpage news... :)- rstarr, on 10/30/2007, -12/+2*****
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- Cwo655321, on 11/11/2007, -88/+11i was duped into digging, damn
- rycars, on 11/15/2007, -33/+744Digg positions, enquire within:
Our small team of lawyers are currently experiencing rapid growth! If you want to be apart of a dynamic team send your resume to jobs (at) digg.com
NB: must be able to work 20h per day - MarkCiccone, on 11/11/2007, -71/+28http://diggforgreatjustice.ytmnd.com/
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YTMND is great :) - RobertS44, on 11/11/2007, -95/+264Can we get back to *real* content now kids? kthx
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- BigEasy, on 10/12/2007, -96/+72Sigh. It looks like cooler heads have not prevailed in this case and Digg has bowed to mob mentality. While I don't like the banning of users over this sort of thing any more than anyone, and HATE the RIAA and all the other money-grubbers, I think it was fully within Digg's rights to protect its ability to exist at all by responding to this cease-and-desist.
Tyranny of the masses. Such is life. Digg, I hope you survive the lawyer onslaught, I really do. - Powder, on 11/05/2007, -91/+536To the digg comunity, chill out
You cannot expect digg.com as a company to not respond in some way to a cease and desist notice form a company that is sue happy. But it is wrong for Digg to take down stories in any situation and still call itself democratic. Take a step back and look at the situation. We have shown the digg crew what we would rather them do, and they appear to be moving in that direction “But now, after seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, you’ve made it clear. You’d rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company. We hear you, and effective immediately we won’t delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be. If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying.“ (http://blog.digg.com/?p=74). It is time to take a step back and let the group handle it, before we destroy a site that we all love (at least love enough to create an uproar so large as this one has been). But Since we all fell like attacking something let us attack the DMCA and end this kind of crap at the source rather then attack a third party required by law to oblige.
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- rstarr, on 10/30/2007, -13/+3*****
- ender42081, on 10/12/2007, -33/+4yes, lets move on. remove the user data that could link the abusers to real people, and THEN move on... that way he can at least protect his butt.
- hoppdawg, on 10/12/2007, -39/+11You're a digg late, a buck short.
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -48/+16Seriously. It'd be nice to get back to some real news at some point. I've known about this key since February.
- dixta, on 10/12/2007, -41/+14Kevin, you're a champion.
I don't see anything bad happening, I mean hell, it's a string of hex digits FFS. The cat is well-and-truly out of the bag, and Digg is not accountable for that, so as far as I'm concerned AACS can go jump.
DIGG FTW
ohhh btw......
46-75-63-6B-20-44-52-4D-20-4D-50-41-41-20-61-6E-64-20-41-41-43-53
Go convert it to see what it means. - mraustin1337, on 11/02/2007, -79/+376I give my respect. Kevin Rose. You are the man.
- Lylepalooza, on 10/12/2007, -14/+135While I am glad that Digg is sticking to its vision of letting the users vote with their feet (and mouse) it's a shame that the company has been forced into this position. I would like to think it was NOT due to the number of people considering using ad blocking on the site, and restricting their revenue. I would like to think it was the thought of valued users leaving in droves, and the though of doing right by them.
Anyway, it's going to make great news for a few months to come! I am sure if push came to shove the users of Digg would be more than willing to fund any sort of legal campaign against the MPAA, am I right? - nizzy1115, on 10/12/2007, -26/+5Finally we can stick up for our rights!
- kjcdude, on 10/12/2007, -26/+11Kevin Rose, you own!
- moncef, on 10/12/2007, -25/+5just one last hd dvd crack
http://hddvd.ytmnd.com/ - randomgeek, on 11/13/2007, -128/+461I'm I the only one that thought that sounded like a pansy reply? I mean, Digg is essentially dead as of right now as it is flooded with literally hundreds of posts about the key. And now that they have basically lost control of the situation, they say, "Oh, we're sorry! We'll fight for you!" Did you -really- have a choice at this point?
Something had to give.
I'm more inclined to think that everyone sat around a conference table and said, "We can't keep up with this. We either let them do what they want, or take the site down," not, "We messed up here. We should have gone to bat for our users like Google did, or like Slashdot has done - even if eventually they still had to take down the materiel, they built strong loyalty from their users by standing up for them."
But more seriously, they've screwed themselves in the eyes of the law. If they had never removed comments in the first place, they'd have a legal leg to stand on, but because they've shown that they can and do have editor powers, they are not protected at all. If you delete one, you have to delete them all (as far as I understand the DMCA). So it's really a matter to too little, too late. You might as well continue to delete the posts now or you're going to get pounded. And no, you can't blame the users if you do get pounded. You guys took the advice of a guy in a suit instead of going with your gut. - MrSkrilla, on 10/12/2007, -58/+26thank you
09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0 - Drood, on 10/12/2007, -77/+159Acting like five year olds? As I posted elsewhere earlier, ANY censorship is a bad thing. How far does the line have to be crossed before YOU give a *****? Far better to draw the line now than when it's something important.
Honestly, you people making snarky remarks like that... I would say you can't see the big picture, but clearly you're not even looking at the ***** thing.- Dugout21, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1ANY censorship? Should we have kids watching Hostel 2 on Nickelodeon now? Or how about a way to hack into the U.S. defense system on ehow? Censorship is USUALLY bad. Keyword, usually. In this case, Digg really shouldn't have caved into your stupid greedy demands. You'd much rather have your damn key, then let this site stay up for thousands of other users to enjoy. And clearly, YOU'RE not looking at the ***** big picture. There's no god damn sacred law "Censorship = bad". Nothing is black and white. Good luck Kevin.
- sabbac, on 10/12/2007, -37/+14The sad thing is, all of these whiny little bitches are so impassioned about the ***** HD-DVD number and their freedom of speech being with held. what about the lack of freedom of speech this current government has imposed, how about that? Why must people be so blatantly selfish about cracking HD-DVD encoding. How about cracking GWB upside the ***** head? BABIES, YOUR ALL BABIES! And now, digg.com may end up having their ass sued off for you all being a bunch of whiners. "OH MY RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED" better to remove a copyright infringement than being sued into oblivion. grow the ***** up.
- amoirae, on 10/12/2007, -39/+24Kevin and the Digg team had to give in to a temper tantrum from some petulant babies who feel they are entitled to have their own way no matter what the consequences are to others.
Digg shouldn't have given in to these amateur terrorists who have nothing better to do than create a tempest in a tea pot. - yonis, on 11/13/2007, -21/+443Now back to our regularly scheduled broadcast of AMAZING [PICTURE]: APPLE IPHONE BROWSES DIGG!!!! stories.
- balerhgae, on 10/12/2007, -30/+10It really doesn't seem like the MPAA would have much of a case, considering that this site is almost entirely user-submitted content.
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 FTW! - Drood, on 10/12/2007, -30/+11Acting like five year olds? As I posted elsewhere earlier, ANY censorship is a bad thing. How far does the line have to be crossed before YOU give a *****? Far better to draw the line now than when it's something important.
Honestly, you people making snarky remarks like that... I would say you can't see the big picture, but clearly you're not even looking at the ***** thing. - Butros, on 10/12/2007, -26/+7That's some respectable *****. Why can't the leaders of our country run it as well as this guy runs this site? Seriously....
- codplay, on 10/12/2007, -30/+65The people of Digg shall be victorious!
Actually, this whole thing gave me a lot of hope for our society. Sure it's a minor issue, but enough people felt strongly about it that they stood up and told everyone else why they thought the situation was wrong.
As is just proof, enough people stood up that it made a difference.
Thanks to both sides. And now that we have proved that we are a strong community, let us get back to our other geeky stories... - hoppdawg, on 10/12/2007, -19/+11thanx for the courtesy reach around.
- CerebralVisions, on 10/12/2007, -20/+9Wow. Every front page story on Digg right now is about these numbers,
- TriteLife, on 10/12/2007, -39/+192The only problem with dying fighting is that Digg is doing both. They'll be the ones fighting and if they lose, they'll be the ones dying.
Whereas the community just reads about it and moves on. The only thing they lose is a site off their bookmarks. All because Digg want's to keep the 50% of members who happily spammed the daylights out of Digg for a code that none of them will ever use. Let's face it, No more than 15% of Digg uses linux, and maybe 2% of them will actually ever use this code for anything. - timlee, on 10/12/2007, -20/+5Glad to see that Digg won't choose to censor its user-driven content. Otherwise, Digg will just become lame like Wikipedia.
- scottylist, on 10/12/2007, -64/+4Help Build an UNCENSORED Digg: http://uncensoreddigg.blogspot.com/
- AjaxDiggz, on 10/12/2007, -30/+22Glad that you changed your mind, Kevin. Please don't make this same mistake again in the future, after seeing today's uproar, I think you might lose your core membership and your business. Digg on.
- moet, on 10/12/2007, -21/+6I am proud of kevins decision and will stand by him as a loyal digg member
He is standing up for what the digg community wants and, and not letting lawyers and corporations force digg around. that deserves a lot of respect.
He is a captian that will go down with his ship if necessary
Digg.com the best site on the net - nicbrown, on 10/12/2007, -21/+122It's better to be a Pirate than Join the Navy.
- defectDS, on 11/13/2007, -25/+335Remember remember the first of Mayvember.
- IsPoLiN, on 10/12/2007, -13/+63@randomgeek
Even if they did the right thing for the wrong reasons, we need to stand by them now to encourage them doing the right thing in the future.
And if they do get pounded legally, we need to lend them what support we can if only because it is in our best interest as well. - PAJK, on 10/12/2007, -34/+26You guys are ***** selfish pricks. It's not you that will be fighting the lawsuit. But posting the code, you're not rebelling ONE TINY LITTLE BIT. No, you're making Digg do it - it is they, who have created this community that will have to deal with the legal implications of all of this. Let me make this clear once again: YOU AREN'T DOING *****.
You're not fighting anything, especially not Freedom of damn Speech! You're willing to set fire to your own community for just what exactly? You selfish, selfish *****. - dachicken, on 10/12/2007, -22/+15Did anyone else notice he did not say anything about censorship on future articles?
"[E]ffective immediately we won’t delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be."
So pretty much after its been kept on every other website and the possibility of the key entering public domain is increased, and inversely the possibility of a law suit decreases, he decided to keep the stories and at the same time attempts to sound noble about it.
"[We] will deal with whatever the consequences might be."
Trying to do something brave when the possibility of bad ramifications is noble, doing it after you know there will be no consequence isn't.
I'll reserve my judgment until the next DCMA related S and D order comes in and see how digg responses. - DesignEx, on 10/12/2007, -13/+4Chronicle of the events, and parodies that unfolded:
DIGG: http://www.digg.com/offbeat_news/New_website_09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0_ws - PsychoticClown, on 10/12/2007, -50/+136Kevin Rose has guts. This is amazing. I can't believe he sided with the Digg users over his sponsor. I mean it would've been bitter but I would've understood. I think we all owe it to Kevin to be ready to donate whatever we can to help if there should be a lawsuit. Anyone with me?
- NoStoppingUs, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6...this is the top story on drudge right now
www.drudgereport.com - chubbstar, on 10/12/2007, -25/+8forgive digg!!
http://www.digg.com/offbeat_news/DIGG_THIS_IF_YOU_FORGIVE_DIGG_COM#c6461866 - mariowario, on 10/12/2007, -15/+36I'm sure both the digg crew and users learnt something new today. Lets put all this behind us and get back to the good ol' mac vs pc stories.
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -31/+70It looks like the inmates run this ***** asylum.
- blisk, on 10/12/2007, -41/+59You know what... no I DON'T think we should move on just cause it took THIS MUCH to get something not even that objectionable causing user bans that weren't explained why they were justified. Only until alot of people put pressure on them as to why the posts and users were getting banned was it explained. Only then though do we all of a sudden we get the explanation that pisses everyone off. Maybe if they were more respectful of their users and told them what the deal was UP FRONT then we wouldn't have had this issue.
Then theres always the fact that this is supposedly a democratic site in which the users 'create' the content. Theres been many more things that have been up on the front page that I believe were not in violation of the TOS but in my opinion was removed because Digg felt it wasn't representative of their brand and was quickly removed.
Stupid example but one I can think of at the moment:
I recall there was this one “story” (believe it was a link to the ad/website where the ad for it was) about the super soakers goo gun where the goo being shot by the kids at each other looked like seamen.. it was on the front page.. half hour later.. gone. Legit Ad. Somewhat comical.
This whole thing was about a site of and by the users at very least not being consistent with their TOS that makes Digg look hypocritical and contradictory. It had to change at some point.. but I don't know if this really stops whats been going on for awhile now. - takeda, on 10/12/2007, -8/+50"Tyranny of the masses. Such is life. Digg, I hope you survive the lawyer onslaught, I really do."
Don't worry, digg user base just proved that it's impossible to filter the content against the will of majority of the users.
I think they are pretty safe from any harm from MPAA.
Besides they (MPAA) don't even have any case here, they basically abused DMCA.
Anyway, I know digg isn't here just for fun, I know the money is important, but they should never go against their users. Digg is a social bookmarking site, without users they're nobody. Banning users was a really idiotic idea. - dvsf, on 11/02/2007, -20/+3065/1/07 never forget
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/481017943_46dd1795fe_o.jpg - themastersb, on 11/13/2007, -37/+225Now. If only we could be this enthusiastic about impeachment.
- DigiDave, on 11/13/2007, -13/+145I'm still left with a big question mark on my head: Digg got a cease and desist letter but according to first ammendment law (of which I might be a little rusty on): news organizations have the right to re-print material that private companies don't. I don't think it's a stretch to call Digg a news organizations (of sorts) -- and I think they know that.
The real problem here is that Digg, which is supposed to be a "democracy" and all about freedom of speech -- banned USERS (not just stories) for mentioning something that was on every other major tech news site. I bet a lot of those sites didn't pull down the information at the first sign of a c&d order: Digg pulled it down because the letter was coming from a PAYING SPONSOR.
It was only after being called out that Digg has decided to sack up. "At least we went down fighting." -- I doubt this will end up in a lawsuit -- I don't think a real lawsuit was ever an issue: Although the individual user who re-published the info might be in trouble -- digg the organization would be in the clear -- and their lawyers would know that. I think pointing the the c&d letter is just a proxy for financial motivations.... Just my 2 cents. - gann, on 10/12/2007, -28/+20Yeah, I think that really is enough.
I will dugg down all 09-f9 stores as duplicate from now on... - jcbullock, on 10/12/2007, -27/+19The idiots have won and lunacy reigns supreme!!
Brilliant, really brilliant. I know this is going to get dugg down. Who cares? Digg users certainly don't care about Digg and Kevin went right along with them. Heaven forbid a company follow the laws!! It doesn't matter if you LIKE the laws or not, a company has to follow them to stay in business. It's ok for a company to want to stay in business!
Say so long to digg, because if, as Kevin says, they are going to go down fighting, they are certainly going to go down.
Man, and I really liked digg. - popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -28/+17When I read the web, blogs, social news sites, what-have-you -- one of the reasons I do it is because I feel that it has more integrity than many major media sources like television and major newspapers.
What we learned today is that this is not the case. Digg has corporate priorities first and foremost -- and users are a distant second.
So, 'No" we can't just forget about this. This is a pathetic "day late, dollar short" face-saving effort from Kevin to try to salvage his absolutely disgusted
readers.
And the cat is out of the bag: Digg is just another facet of corporate media. Silly us for thinking it was more democratic.
I for one remain disgusted. For those who continue to read Digg, keep an eye on them. Fool us once shame on them. Fool us twice, shame on us.
I'll be over at Slashdot.
Bye Digg. You're gross. - wshs, on 10/12/2007, -13/+7This is a revolution the diggers can't possibly win. If Kevin didn't give in, they lose. Since Kevin did give in, lawsuits will happen. The end result is the shutdown of Digg, as Hollywood has deeper pockets and more attorneys. Hollywood will most likely sue as Digg is a meatier target than John Doe Pirate. Without Digg, the diggers lost what they were fighting for, and thus, the so called revolution is lost. I find it amazing and quite hilarious that people value a nigh-worthless number more than they value the Digg 'community.'
- takeda, on 10/12/2007, -27/+81"Kevin Rose has guts. This is amazing. I can't believe he sided with the Digg users over his sponsor. I mean it would've been bitter but I would've understood. I think we all owe it to Kevin to be ready to donate whatever we can to help if there should be a lawsuit. Anyone with me?"
Sorry, but we didn't give him a choice. He either is with us or he's done. I hoped that he would give a better response. It looks like he was forced to write this. - thatbox, on 11/13/2007, -41/+197While this is obviously the right move, it was pretty much the only move if Digg was going to continue with its past goodwill relationship with its users. Kevin's post on the blog isn't some honorable stand for what's right; it's self-preservation. At first, the "safest" course of action was to heed the notice from the HD-DVD people, but as the ***** kept getting more and more powerful it became more and more obvious that the respect and adoration that make Kevin and Revision3's projects so successful was fast disappearing, revealing a new priority: maintaining the "internet rockstar" status that Kevin's career is built on. The seesaw tipped on its own; Kevin is just sliding from one end to the other.
If he'd taken this stance from the beginning, as his reputation practically demanded, there would have been no ***** like this - in fact, quite the opposite. He could have remained silent on it and let it pass, or made a post about standing up to the ridiculous takedown notice to earn some admiration. But the fact that he let it go on for so long points to the insincerity of making this move now, in a last-ditch effort to maintain his status as the posterboy of most things that are going right with the web these days. Trying to get back on the side of the users is almost like sneaking from one side of a battle to the other when you realize you picked the losers to start with, and it's a cheap play to save face.
Will it work? Probably, as already evidenced by all the WE FORGIVE DIGG and DIGG THIS IF YOU LOVE KEVIN ROSE comments above. Does he deserve your praise now? ***** no - it's a blatant attempt not to be left behind in an angry cloud of dust.
tl;dr version: Kevin's blog post is insincere and came too late after a line had been crossed. His newfound support for the "Digg resistance" is based on nothing other than a desire to save his reputation and his relevance, and is blatant and disgusting. He'll gloss over it in his next podcast and try to portray himself as some kind of rallying point against overbearing DMCA/copyright law, and most Diggers will fall for it, even though they shouldn't. He doesn't deserve your respect for this at this point; the choice was easy to make by the time he made it. - Pokez, on 10/12/2007, -9/+48@MrStabby
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/AlyssaRochelle/Cats/1155446819519.jpg - deckerdecker, on 10/12/2007, -23/+8Kevin!
You are so full of *****!
Why did you or your Digg crew delete the first post, pussyes!
Digg is no place for free speech! - namgman, on 10/12/2007, -18/+7"Well said. Can we move on now?"
What? To the next voting website? You do realize that digg faces shutdown now....hello?!
All you people have done is kill a cool website run by a cool group of people that popularized the concept of democratic news. Digg itself NEVER WAS and COULD NEVER BE the holy grail of social freedoms because it is run by a single entity which also happens to be a commercial venture. Is it that hard to understand? Digg is a company that Kevin et al. started and worked very hard at. Where did you get it in your heads that this was anything more than that?
It's really a shame. And a pointless one at that. Man Kevin, I don't know you, and I'm no fanboy, but man I am sorry to see this happen. It just goes to show that the majority of people in this world are idiotic sheep. - ryborg, on 10/12/2007, -18/+38Kevin,
Not just that -- we'd rather you just didn't censor ANYTHING! - dongiaconia, on 10/12/2007, -17/+12Thank you Kevin! You've listened to the masses. We can make a difference.
"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive"
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
--Both Quotes: Thomas Jefferson, Author of the Declaration of Independence and our Third President.
I think we, as a community, collectively stood up and Jefferson would be proud.
If Jefferson we're alive today,
he might join us proudly to say:
"***** the **AA" - redforty, on 10/12/2007, -20/+7#1. HDDVD
#2. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
#3. ???????
#4. Profit! - cyberghost232, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1I thought the dark tipper lost his balls for a minute.
- ksgant, on 10/12/2007, -8/+151Can't move on until you UN-BANN all the people you banned for submitting these stories and numbers...including the guy chesterjosiah who submitted the story that got the 15,000 diggs. I mean, if Kevin Rose is going to post the numbers, shouldn't he get banned also?
Not that they'll all come back mind you. - Zarubi, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3Thank you, Kevin. I think you did the right thing, in the spirit of what makes Digg great.
Now let's get things back to normal! - mal1964, on 10/12/2007, -15/+7you know that Kevin Rose sure is a OK guy
- TheFunnyDigger, on 10/12/2007, -14/+1let the abuse begin.
- TyroPyro, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4Make a lot of noise and you'll get noticed
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=481017275&size=o - spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -11/+45It's nice that they were forced to realize their mistake. However, Rose taking on the role of martyr is the easy way out. By saying "I'm going to get sued for you guys" He doesn't have to admit his major league screw up, instead we praise him for being willing to be sued just for us, when in reality, there is basically zero chance they'll actually sue him. The code is everywhere on the net, in places larger than digg. They may lose HDDVD funding, but nobody is going to get sued.
But praise him all you like, it's fantastic social engineering on his part. - joper90, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6THIS IS SPARTA....!!!1!!!
/stolen from another 'deleted thread'. - daza, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4Great, can we now purge all front page digg articles and go back to normal?
- magicmarc, on 10/12/2007, -12/+18http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6946/testey3.png
Spread this image!
Use http://www.picsecret.com/decode_choose_file.html to decode ! - HeaveN, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4Stupid people. Idiots act like 10 year olds over a stupid number that has been on the internets for months. This is wrong and everyone should be banned for even digging anything about the number, sad bitches.
- BESTenemy, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7We provide content that makes Digg what it is. In a sense, that makes us shareholders of the company. Our opinion counts, and Kevin does seem to get it. We feed the business, we supply ad revenue and we make the company what it is. I'm glad this negotiation has come to an end.
- aaaaaaaand, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0opinion == truthiness
you're participating in a evil corporation. you are evil.
embrace the darkside FULLY
- aaaaaaaand, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0opinion == truthiness
- krinn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18HD DVD hacks had been known for months. That was not news.
What was news was that if you posted this particular string of 32 letters and numbers, then stories would get deleted. So people repeatedly posted it to see if it would get deleted.
The supreme court has made clear in Reno v. ACLU that this type of "heckler's veto" is not permissible under the First Amendment. So digg should not have to remove stories just because someone posts 09 F9 11 02... - Ngai, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4Freedom is NOW!!!!!
Kevin Rose!!! Where are you!!!! - hikaruzero, on 10/12/2007, -25/+17It bothers me that everyone still has their panties in a knot over Kevin's decision and the way he went about it.
Think about it for a second. If you *owned a company* ... that was thriving legally, with paid sponsors ... which VERY few of you can say you do ... would you not want it to CONTINUE thriving legally, with paid sponsors?
Obviously, Digg felt that it should abide by the law, as any self-respecting legitimate company would. Companies *do not have backbones,* only people do. Were Kevin himself issued a C&D for something he himself did, I seriously doubt he would have had the same "... well, okay," response.
Then, of course, Digg users stood up for what they believe in and pretty much took over the site by burning everything all over the HTML countryside, giving Digg a choice: Either disregard the C&D (i.e. move away from the clear-cut line of legality), or lose.
Now, if a company that relies on its users WANTS to stay legal, how is that a bad thing? Pirates aren't the only force for truth and equality, there *are* other kinds of freedom fighters -- ones which obey by the law while dissenting against it -- especially sites like Digg where stories about how ***** up and unfair and unconstitutional the law is can be found on the main page *daily.*
Digg wanted to comply with its sponsor, but the community gave it no choice but to butt heads. So it did.
Yet this is somehow Kevin Rose's fault?
Grow up.- aaaaaaaand, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0this is digg. truth by consensus.... just like wikipedia.
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ALL corporations are evil. This includes the corporations that product the electricity that powers the tubes you shove your collective ***** through.
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- aaaaaaaand, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0this is digg. truth by consensus.... just like wikipedia.
- tollyboy22, on 10/12/2007, -17/+8Aww bless with all the diggage of this story my 1 year olds 1st word yesterday was "09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0" Respect
- axwel, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2ha ha, that guy is a savage! ***** drm.
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- aaaaaaaand, on 10/12/2007, -11/+0*****
- redwire, on 10/12/2007, -6/+49Its going to be an interesting diggnation this week :)
- jjesusfreak01, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Woo hoo!
- darkecho, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2"I truly cannot believe how many people decided they were going to stand up (while sitting down mind you) for a cause that 50% of them were not going to actively participate in anyway."
How do you call submitting spam links with a damn code in it standing up? They didn't do it for the cause, it was to piss off the digg staff. Maybe a few were for the "cause" but most were not. If you read through a lot of the comments you can clearly see that. - Lonforce, on 10/12/2007, -16/+8I don't know if I can trust Digg anymore... May be none of these diggs are real? May be they have been manipulating stories all the time... During the HDDVD uprising they have changed so many entries in the DB... Ever wondered why they could decide so fast which entries will show up on the front page and which won't? Why would you have all these functions ready (they were ready, they could handle the spamming pretty well altough it was growing extremely).. may be wanted to sell some digg effect? Wanted to make big business wonder boy?
- Supermunch, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15I shall post on this historical thread for no other reason than to say w00t.
Long live the horde! - PsychoticClown, on 10/12/2007, -14/+12@takeda
He was not forced to side with us. If there was "force" involved, then he was forced to take the side of HD-DVD, not us. I can't remember a single time someone in his position chose the people over money, success and reputation. I was not only surprised but slightly disappointed that he sided with the members, because they'll be at home, on their couches, protesting from a distance, whereas HE is the one whose interests are at stake, not us. He could lose his site, his fortune, his status, everything. And of course, we both know none of the angry protesters are going to pay him a visit and offer their support. You expect those hundreds or thousands of people to get off their butts and actually DO something? No. And yet Kevin Rose sided with THIS side, knowing they won't benefit him one bit, just because he knows his roots, i.e. that he's one of the people, not one of the scummy corporate rats. I hope he didn't make the wrong decision. - zxof, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2i think our code has been successfully delivered to our good friends in china, russia, etc etc (sorry i cant name all of you).
- joel8x, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I love how certain comments in this thread are getting dugg up hundreds of times, yet just mere hours ago, anyone with a rational thought about the situation was getting dugg down into oblivion.
- zigamorph, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5Or can we move on. Apparently Digg is still blocking some links or has a really convenient bug. http://digg.com/tech_news/09_F9_11_02_9D_74_E3_5B_D8_41_56_C5_63_56_88_C0_100
- onilosmada, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3God bless america and long live digg!
- RickySan65, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2"NB: must be able to work 20h per day"
Laywers that work 20hrs a day, thats a joke.. - ludwik, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23And what with all those people whose accounts were deleted? Will they get accounts back?
- Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Please, can we get back to the serious news now?
Where else am I going to get my latest fill of Left-wing impeachment stories, the latest screenshot of a new Google feature available to 5 only people, rumors for an Apple product that won't be out for months, and of course a semi-funny image that's site went down after 4 people viewed it? - Greyhaven7, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5"And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." ~Thomas Jefferson
Seems fitting. The Diggmocracy operates in a similar way.
People really should read more quotes by Thomas Jefferson. He would be rolling over in his grave if he knew half the stuff going on in this country today. - Marvelboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1I accidentally buried this...
- DoodleMaster, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1"If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying."
I didn't know capital punishiment was the new way to handle stuff of this nature :( I better stop then. - invinciblechunk, on 10/12/2007, -11/+9@ thatbox,
You've hit the nail squarely on the head. Kevin's no hero; he just ***** himself at the prospect of losing traffic, same as any other blogspammer. - Hoodwink, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3WOW, Kevin you are the man.......I would love to see this kind of attitude out of other high-profile people.
- tacroy, on 10/12/2007, -10/+7Show some support for kevin! He is going out on a limb for you, its time to return the respect!
Post the number, then your full name, then your contact information.
Show that the users of digg are willing to make the same stand that we ask kevin too! - digitalarcanum, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I find it funny. Digg starts out in order to be the different one of the pack, in order to give the users on it's site voices that can be heard. Digg started out by being the anti slashdot: no moderation and total democratic control. In essence, digg has become the very thing they were trying to dissent from in the first place, what with all the bannings, taking down stories and whatnot.
I do have to say however that these stories have been a nice change of pace. I get tired of all the apple stories here on digg every so often. - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Gotta love the Spirit of Diggers.
- Masterrer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2One thousand votes left to beat the previous record of 15000!
GO!! GO!! GO!! GO!! GO!! GO!! - satori3000, on 10/12/2007, -12/+8I'm truly sadened that Digg got plowed by those that praise it. Kevin and co were stuck between a rock and a hard place on this... get sued or get attacked by their own membership. Just goes to show that some Diggers eat their own.
- dougm68, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6Well said Kevin.
And ***** BLOCKBUSTER! - AhrenBa, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18Kevin and the rest of the Digg Team,
I think I can safely say that I, and others, respect a management team that is "down to earth" enough to make a type of decision like that in order to keep its user base faithful. It shows a notion of caring, and makes Digg that much more of a fun place to hang out on line with. Some of the comments that were posted/directed at Kevin and the Staff were irresponsible and I couldn't believe people stooped that low. If, for one, refrained from posting comments, but chose to contribute by digging the stories.
The Digg community bows down to your courageous response, and I believe it any thing ever comes against Digg (a lawsuit, etc.), you can expect one thing for sure. The Digg community will be behind you all the way.
Thanks guys. - skibybadoowap, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Dug for freedom.
(Although waiting for for all the comments to load before I could type a reply took me 2 minutes) - numberbanned, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Can't move on when your account is disabled for "misuse" AFTER this post.
I guess someone decided to keep number banning alive.
Another brilliant move by the emo gestapo. - Infowarmachine, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4***** digg, they still censor, theyre just not going to censor this number.. woopty do
post some more threads about 9/11 and see what happens when those make front page - Zybergod, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2You can pick up the code t-shirt here:
http://www.cafepress.com/dlkmadsen.129054705 - numberbanned, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6After all this time I got banned for posting a COMMENT about a number. Why the hell is there even a moderation system when this place is crawling with moderators ready to censor. It'd be much better if all comments needed to be pre-approved by kevin and his group of trained monkeys. Free thought is dangerous :(
So I am moving to reddit, digg has lost its place on my google homepage until accounts are reenabled.
Even then, I think that Digg has definitely jumped the shark. - an7agonist, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Democratic digg ftw
- realitybias, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Somebody call Ron Paul, our rights are being violated.
- Burento, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2"IF we're all done acting like 5 year olds, I'm sure someone's got a great picture of a cute kitten in a computer to submit."
http://digg.com/offbeat_news/My_cat_Kiki_doesn_t_like_Weird_Asia_Cat_Treats_img - motabus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2why is this key ok to post???? can i post a vista key?? what about photoshop??? how about the combo to your safe and the adress, and the code to your alarm system... Would it be ok to post the unreal 3 source code, since its just a bunch of numbers like this??
- lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3I knew Kevin still had a little broken in him.
BUT DON'T WORRY! THEY CAN'T TAKE DOWN DIGG FOR POSTING CONTENT THAT THEY DON'T OWN!
http://digg.com/tech_news/I_OWN_the_HD_DVD_hex_key_Those_DMCA_letters_are_crap - jamacdonald, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Yes we should... but why not take a few minutes and support Digg by clicking through the Google ads on the page. Help 'um out on the (possible) legal defense fund.
- KevinBlows, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6ONLY REASON why Kevin is backing down is because he doesn't want to lose digg users and because he knows through talking to his lawyer, that they can't be sued. All this talk about "go down fighting" is *****. If you people can't see that then you're stupid, Digg is about money, full stop.
- Cafrow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2This is awesome Kevin. You have to understand what we where trying to do last night, we want to prove a point. Just because a larger company has a "Copyright" on a piece of code does not mean any part of that cannot be duplicated, especially when it comes down to a single string, that is just retarted that they would claim that string to be protected under the same copyright laws. This country is not being run by its people anymore, its being run by companies and their greed for money. If this larger company has the balls to take you to court over this, I promise you the support you will receive will go beyond anything you could imagine. Stand up for whats right.
- jrstinkfish, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0"Acting like five year olds? As I posted elsewhere earlier, ANY censorship is a bad thing. How far does the line have to be crossed before YOU give a *****? Far better to draw the line now than when it's something important."
So if someone comes into your home and starts doing illegal things, removing them from your home is censorship? Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd call it "covering your ass." Digg isn't the government, it has no real power, therefore your "censorship" claim is completely bogus. But since everyone threw a fit like a bunch of babies, the site will most likely be closed down very soon.
There are bigger battles to fight -- anyone who got their panties in a bunch over this one needs to open their eyes. - numberbanned, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Now it got removed from the top 10.
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AND HOW ABOUT THE BANNED USERS? - Insignian, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4now the top digg story ever
- MattyLite, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11A digg & HD-DVD logo made from the code:
http://www.virtualmatt.com/logofun.html - mrfreeziexp, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I can go back to praising Kevin now... Life makes sense again.
- chuckiej, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I agree with your stance, but I think the legal issue is so sticky, Digg is in trouble. The release of this code is a huge piece of NEWS. However, if your terms of use forbid breaking IP, and you are now allowing diggers to do things outside of your Terms, then you put yourself in a position where you may be forced "by the people" to allow other thigns outside of the terms. This can include any of the things that Jay listed in his blog post.
A small amount of censorship is necessary. And the people who really want that code could find it on any number of websites. You've made some very smart business decisions, Kevin, Jay, et al. but this is not one of them. - Humptydank, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4@aflury: "Well said. Can we move on now?"
That's not up to us, it's up to HD-DVD. - IHaRMoNiC, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Just wanna say that this takes guts - I commend you Kevin.... digg on!
- sofaKing812, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I'm really not sure how I feel about what happened on Digg in the last 24 hours or so.
I dig the fact that the censorship has ended, but what are the latent ramifications going to be? How is this going to play out legally?
Can you copyright a series of numbers and is it copyright infringement if the company/organization willingly, albeit accidentally, gives out the numbers? - eugenef, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3wow that many positives for just one sentence, lol
- maexus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@lonforce
Believe me, if I had programmed Digg, I would have those functions in place too. It would not take that long to program them. - Reese268, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"I'm I the only one that thought that sounded like a pansy reply? I mean, Digg is essentially dead as of right now as it is flooded with literally hundreds of posts about the key. And now that they have basically lost control of the situation, they say, "Oh, we're sorry! We'll fight for you!" Did you -really- have a choice at this point?"
No, they definitely COULD have banned the accounts of people who were submitting the story. If said people continue to make new accounts, they COULD have put a hold on the creation of new accounts. They easily could have stopped people from reposting the key. I think it's an incredibly ballsy move for them to have made, and would never have expected it.
Also, they didn't screw themselves over by removing the story and then reposting it... it was already known that they have the ability to moderate the site, because they have removed other stories before. So they are in the same position they would have been in had they never removed the story. - CraigCarlyle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2You know, it's really pathetic that Kevin had to say this for you guys to stop with your childish behavior. I was really hoping that you guys were going to realize how immature you were acting through this whole thing.
Do you know how the digg community is going to be looked at know? We're ***** children now. - flashboy131, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You listen to where the money's coming from. Sponsors. Good Job Digg.
- fragasm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Well it's horrible timing for Kevin. To come out first banning users and deleting articles in a supposedly democratic process upset a large portion of the user base. Now he comes out and reverses his decision effectively upsetting a large portion of his advertisers. Kevin effectively killed two revenue streams with one fell swoop; the buyers and the sellers. There are some great lessons to be learned in with regards to "thinking it through" before you act. Making decision like this is tough, sticking by your original decision is tougher, and reversing it is toughest of all.
It's bad the way this happened and there is no one to blame more than Kevin if it all fails. - godofgodlygods, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@TriteLife and whoever else said this code will not be put to use by the many of people who dugg this...
It doesn't matter at all if I specifically am going to use it. It matters what this number represents, and the massive amounts of people who agree with my opinion on what this number represents: Free information and lack of censorship, and most of all, lack of copyrights. - c0dy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2All your 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 are belong to us.
Seriously though, this has been blown way out of proportion... - DarkReign16, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I think aflury has the highest dugg comment ever, or at least the top 3. Way to go.
- SniperXPX, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Well said. Can we move on now?
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Why were users banned? What about Chesterjosiah? - eliteturbo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2oh so now Kevin is telling us what we should digg
- swible1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I like how he guilts trips us. Yeah like we're really the people who are making Digg go down. The truth is this got out of hand and now Kevin wants to look again in front of anyone as the little guy fighting against the big corporations. Truth is he started censoring and Digg being a big corporation wanted what would help make them make money in the long run. This isnt' any different from google censoring in China to promote their long term interests. I want an apology not a look how great I am you should be thanking me.
- WillHutch5, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1all of you idiots need to shut the ***** up, digg isn't going anywhere. this ***** hooplah over a bunch of #'s is making me never wanna read digg again, and i've been reading it for years. stfu and let this blow over, you're all making this way bigger than it needs to be.
- Xavier1012, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7first i had to memorize fckgw.....now i have to memorize 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0
This will go down in history. - Xavier1012, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6first i had to memorize fckgw.....now i have to memorize 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0
This will go down in history. - catbeller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You, chilluns, now that you've convinced Kevin and all the other Digg staff to risk their all for the cause of freedom, you now have the obligation to fund his company's legal defense, which may run into the millions and most certainly destroy digg.com as their venture capital dries up. I really expect, when the need arises, for all of you, especially the ones bringing up a silly HD DVD commercial from a year ago, to pony up at least a hundred bucks if you're employed gainfully, and a few bucks at least even if you're barely making it by eating breakfast at the free table at a hotel downtown. This is the cost of freedom as well -- YOU have to sacrifice something as well as the people you demand sacrifice for you. It's called "honor".
- gfh10h, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I think it's incredible how powerful the community is. I mean, 33 thousand diggs in 24 hours? The most in the last year besides that was the Iphone announcement at like 21k in something like 2 weeks of digging. Thanks digg :)
- amish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Keep up the good work!! :-)
- m3t00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It is not that difficult to do a Search and Replace on any database. Replace the "illegal string" with "AACS sucks" or similar. Deleting entire posts and accounts was a silly mistake. The kids like it here because Mom and Dad can't make them play nice. Kevin Rose and/or his minions tried to enforce some sort of discipline and went too far and caused the mass revolt. Now I believe they may have gone too far in the opposite direction. Just remove the key text and leave everything else. It will get old soon enough. Giving the kids everything they ask for is not good for the long run.
- malevolence2002, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1+10 respect to Kevin Rose, you sir, inspire many.
This is just the result of another feeble attempt by the MAN (read MPAA / RIAA) to squeeze the life out of it's very own consumer base. Once again we have spoken, Once again they cannot win. We adapt, we persevere, and we triumph as always. When will they learn that a new (open) model has taken over? It is always the slow giants that are the last to catch on. They will be passed up while they fumble to greedily horde control over the greater public. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 I mean honestly, they can not expect to make a string of characters dissappear can they? - partriv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1did the makers of HD-DVD REALLY think that there would NEVER be someone who would find a way to make it play copies? These dinosaur corporations need to understand that if a human made it, a human can circumvent it.
- Nightwing749, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1a'men!
- geneticlone, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Not that anyone gives a ***** :-) but I blogged it on my blog: http://anotherdeveloper.blogspot.com/ here is some more spam to make this page impossible to load :-D.
- eon1713, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3In commemoration of these events get your "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 58 D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" and "my marketing efforts will dominate your face" t shirt at http://www.rofltees.com
- michaelblank, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Nice mousepad design: http://www.cafepress.com/humanknowledge.129257903
- michaelblank, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Correction: http://www.cafepress.com/humanknowledge.129257911
- DIGGAGE, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1THIS IS DIGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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O - Vigrant, on 12/28/2007, -2/+1Last.
- JimmyTRUELOVE, on 01/24/2008, -2/+1?
Last. - goldenratiophi, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1hi internet
- ryuujinusa, on 04/01/2008, -0/+3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
- JayKeaton, on 04/11/2008, -2/+1Too late to be the last comment on the first comment?
- ligyron, on 07/21/2008, -0/+1Keep scrolling
- PopeAmadeus, on 11/11/2007, -235/+68Bout damn time.
- thelastdyingday, on 11/11/2007, -85/+20they are finally listening to the users
- Khabi, on 11/11/2007, -40/+74"listening to the users"
or bowing before a riot of idiots
The two are not the same. - sctechguy, on 11/11/2007, -17/+23I think that in the long run, Kevin made the right call on both fronts. I think that he was right in trying to protect "his baby", and ensuring that it would still remain for all of us in the coming days, weeks, months, and years. Think about it this way: what is the first knee-jerk reaction you would have, if something that you really cared about was threatened?
I also think that he's correct in letting this play out, and waiting for everyone to get tired of it, and let the community decide what does, and does not need to be dugg up/down. To use the above analogy: Sure, your first knee-jerk react
- Khabi, on 11/11/2007, -40/+74"listening to the users"
