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DreamHost CEO Josh Jones' Wife Falls for Phishing Scam

blog.dreamhost.com — Jones' wife thought they were due for a fat tax refund do to a courteous IRS email. She promptly emailed away their Social Security and Visa Check Card Number. Josh stated, "But, believe it or not, my wife is not stupid. In fact, she has a PhD from Harvard! "

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  • PantherX, on 10/12/2007, -10/+150Most PhDs that I've met are pretty stupid, at least when it comes to reality.
    • merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -5/+131Telling us that your stupid wife has a PhD does not make your wife look smarter. It makes Harvard PhDs look stupider.
    • chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+68"When someone gets a PhD, something happens to them, and I think there is this genetically engineered chemical that's on the award, and acts on the first person who touches it.... ever wonder why the people presenting the PhDs wear gloves? This chemical makes it impossible for the person, after the drug is administered, to say "I was wrong" I have never heard a PhD say it in all my years. That's my litte theory"

      ~James Randi
    • MrZop, on 10/12/2007, -5/+60booksmarts are not streetsmarts.
    • wwwdot1jesdotus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+37"I didn't go through 8 years of evil medical school to called Mister."
    • QuantumLo0p, on 10/12/2007, -18/+9"But, believe it or not, my wife is not stupid. In fact, she has a PhD from Harvard! "

      Here's another quote:
      "She may be smart but she is also uninformed and probably not very bright."

      Looks like she received another degree...from the School of Hard Knocks.
    • shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -14/+46did she even read the email? the offered her a refund of $191,40
      you dont need a PhD to realize that $191,40 is an invalid amount of money
    • Wooism, on 10/12/2007, -12/+21PhD. or no, that chick is STUPID! I don't care if I get an e-mail directly from IRS.gov and can't identify it as coming from anywhere else I'd be picking up the phone to verify a whole bunch of information. And since when does the IRS need a credit card? The most they can do is direct deposit to a checking account, but then fancy smancy rich folk like them have probably never done their own taxes..
    • gnomon, on 10/12/2007, -8/+23@shiftt
      Not in Europe. She is an American though, so it should have seemed odd to her that the IRS was suddenly using commas instead of decimals.
    • atbnet, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I had an engineering professor that didn't have a clue at all. Kind of wonder what the requirements are to get a PhD these days.
    • chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14@shift

      Sometimes you can exchange a "." for a ",".

      In America we don't often use it, but in Europe it sometimes is. So technically it isn't invalid; albeit, it would be strange to see the IRS using it.
    • CedEx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16@atbnet

      PhDs only test for one specific skillset. It's not like as if you get a PhD and you know *everything*. A PhD just means you know a lot about one thing. Though it seems with the attitude that some give off, they believe otherwise.
    • shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19"In America we don't often use it, but in Europe it sometimes is. So technically it isn't invalid; albeit, it would be strange to see the IRS using it."

      The IRS only functions within the United States, so it would've been ridiculous for her to assume the IRS is using a foreign method of representing currency.
      But she has a PhD from Harvard, she would know better.. :)
    • NtHammer, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2i didnt even kow people subsituted decimal for commas in numbers until just recently.

      i thoughtmost americans use commas too? everyone around here does.
    • coding, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_point
    • OrangeTide, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11She might be educated (PhD), but apparently she was not educated about this. Why would anyone assume astrophysics or cellular biology would translate into an understanding of the basic con game.

      Honestly these cons are successful often enough for criminals to make a bundle. It's not that people are stupid, but it is that most people assume nobody is out to get them and that most people are going to be decent human beings.

      The emotional response we have to these types of cons is one of betrayal. We put a certain amount of trust in our fellow man, and when he/she screws us off we are pissed, and rightfully so.

      As for PhDs being dumb or smart or whatever, I think many PhDs are highly skilled in their very narrow field. But there is currently no metric to indicate how well someone is skilled at life.

      These cons are pretty sneaky, and you really should not be too hard on someone who falls for one. I'm sure they feel bad enough as it is. Now you should feel free to mock someone who repetitively falls for the same con. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
    • quietbob, on 10/12/2007, -19/+13likewise:

      this little piggy went to Harvard
      this little piggy stayed home
      this little piggy had a stupid wife with a PhD
      and this little piggy had none ;(

      and this little piggy w-

    • CaptainScarlet, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Couldn't say it better myself. Just because you have a PhD doesn't make you smarter then eveyone else. And it sure in hell doesn't mean your impervious to stupid things like this.

      PHD's != Higher Intelligence

      I see a lot of educated dummies in the world. That cant think "out of the box".
    • djjuice, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9davidkeithjones: Using the word "stupider" doesn't help you much either.
    • TechnoGuyRob, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Why is that picture of Chinese person after "But, believe it or not, my wife is not stupid. In fact, she has a PhD from Harvard!"...is that his wife?
    • ArchonMagnus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I'd call Harvard and ask for my money back...
    • fyngyrz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16It's not stupidity. It's gullibility. Like religion, this phishing scam event serves to show that intelligence and gullibility are two completely separate types of mental functioning.

      Another PhD recently (couple months ago, story out of California) in the news fell for a Nigerian scam letter; and I know people I would not describe as really smart who recognize the scam underlying religion without any trouble.

      It is really no different than being artistic or physically adept -- the mind doesn't always provide a powerful ability in one area, just because it does in another. Intelligence is the ability to manipulate information. Not the ability to ferret out bad information, or to engender suspicion on (relatively) small cues.
    • TechnoGuyRob, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19At the end of the blog post:

      "Anyway, my wife’s pretty embarassed about the whole thing and made me promise not to tell anyone."

      Good job, *****, the blog post is on the frontpage of Digg.com.
    • kaje, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4LAWL @ what the header information most likely was:

      Sender: noreply@irs.gov
      ReplyTo: sdlfjljflsakjdf@hotmail.com
    • moracity, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5A PhD is nothing more than proof of expertise on some abitrary, but very specific, subject. Obviously, PhD work requires a general expertise within the broader subject matter. However, it is certainly not an indicator of general common sense or stupidity. In fact, I think most people would agree that extreme intelligence is inversely proportionate to common sense. There is definitely no correlation between intelligence and common sense.
    • davidepaula, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11PhD means you have a rich daddy!!!
    • h00ligan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5i find it ironic that merriborn used the word stupider to describe the situation - am i alone?
    • MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I never read that having a PhD made you more intelligent. It just tells me the person went to school for a long time and successfully graduated.
    • tony23, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7@fyngyrz "It's not stupidity. It's gullibility."

      'gullibility' isn't a word. Look it up.
    • Ikioi, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6@fyngyrz

      Thanks for injecting an attack on religion in context that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it, while simultaneously considering yourself above both the intellectually inferior and superior.

      It's that fine mix of completely off topic smart-ass, self righteous, and hidden agenda filled contempt that makes for a smooth tasting wine sweet on the tongues of flamers that most recognize as vintage Troll.
    • tjthayer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Maybe the headline should read: "DreamHost CEO Josh Jones' Pretends Wife Falls for Phishing Scam To Obtain Free Advertising on Digg.com".

      Imagine how expensive it is to actually buy this kind of advertising.

    • BIllyBobFett, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9>"'gullibility' isn't a word. Look it up."

      gul‧li‧bil‧i‧ty, noun
      http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gullibility

      Maybe you should try looking it up before you say that.
    • noclue, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@tony23:
      "'gullibility' isn't a word. Look it up."

      I just did.

      gul‧li‧ble  /ˈgʌləbəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[guhl-uh-buhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
      –adjective
      easily deceived or cheated.
      Also, gul‧la‧ble.

      [Origin: 1815–25; gull2 + -ible]

      —Related forms
      gul‧li‧bil‧i‧ty, noun
      gul‧li‧bly, adverb
    • uidzero, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2True. Most highly intelligent people have very little common sense. If you are saying "wait, I have plenty of common sense" then the jury has no reason to make a verdict on this one ;-)
    • psionicman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Guy I used to work for at a small publishing company was of the opinion that all a PhD really shows is that the bearer is extremely persistent.

      He got his PhD in something like ancient Hebrew, and I think he did his dissertation on nomadic tent camps in ancient Israel. Smart guy, though I don't know how much his research on the aforementioned topics contributed to that.
    • JerMe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7PhD .... she got PhisheD.
    • MysticPawn, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3'gullibility' isn't a word. Look it up.


      everybody that looked it up, you're gullible.

      It's kinda like how the ceiling says gullible over your head.
    • Seumas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@djjuice "davidkeithjones: Using the word "stupider" doesn't help you much either."

      Why not? Are you one of those people who are under the incorrect impression that "stupider" is not a valid word? If so, I would encourage you to run to your nearest dictionary.
    • kashi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1maybe she's not stupid... it's common sense she lacks
  • joehobbes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Great use of illustrations and speech bubbles :)
    Most enjoyable blog post I've read lately.
    • duster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Josh is a great writer! The monthly Dreamhost newsletters are always hilarious.
    • ridgelawrence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Same, This is a Blog that I actually read without skimming through. Very Interesting and it didn't lose my interest the whole way through.
  • Araxen, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Just because you have a degree doesn't mean you aren't stupid. Anyone can be a book worm.
    • RonaldLewis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11True, very true. Unfortunately, we know how much value "paper" holds in life.
  • r121, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27"...due for a fat tax refund do to a..."

    Come on, you used the correct "due" the first time, why not the second?
    • OrangeTide, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5being correct all the time comes off as repetitive!
  • Veamon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Intelligence != common sense.

    My valedictorian was almost a genius, but couldnt walk and chew gum at the same time.
    • kerby74, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I went to school with one just like that. He now has a rocket science degree from MIT and I would still bet he is clueless to the real world around him just like he was back then.
  • madpie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34Who says, in public, "Believe it or not, my wife is not stupid" ? I'm sure the wife is thinking to herself, "believe it or not, my husband is an *****."
    • TechnoGuyRob, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7That guy IS an *****. Look at what he says:

      "But for the rest of you LOWLY Internet users, phishing scams work."
      "Even the almighty Josh nearly fell for an Ebay phishing scam once when I got the phish the very moment I had just won an auction."

      The phrase "almight Josh" (the author) is even outlined in bold.
    • imjustabill, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I think its called sarcasm
    • crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12If you've read his other stuff (like other blog posts or newsletters) you'd know he's not an *****; he's just a goofball.
  • met3ora, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13The way this guy is handling it makes me really glad I'm using Dreamhost. No sarcasm, I like him.
  • Jakyll, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Just another example of "book smart" not equating to "street smart."

    I once knew a PhD who boiled a thermometer in an effort to disinfect it - too bad they only go up to about 110 degrees fahrenheit before popping.
    • Lycander, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1I bet after that thermometer popped, your PhD friend immediately thought of the periodic table for the element mercury?
  • jschunick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28"But, believe it or not, my wife is not stupid."

    I choose "or not".
  • chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31This is why women should be confined to a kitchen... j/k calm down ;)
  • JashX, on 10/12/2007, -10/+7A PhD just shows how long you're willing to go to school and how much you're able to pay... not any kind of measure of intelligence... obviously!
  • slapout, on 10/12/2007, -18/+3Harvard is not the school it used to me. I think at many Ivory League schools now, they give everyone A's.
    • vault, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14ivory schools huh?
    • AlanLivingston, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Well, yes, the ivory league school students all get As. Since Harvard only made the Ivy league, their students get As and Bs.

      So... when do you get your degree?
    • Ubermensch423, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2if you believe that to be true, you have not attended, nor do you know anyone who has attended harvard. under larry summers, harvard significantly reduced any grade inflation that was occurring. claims that grade inflation is still a systemic phenomenon at harvard are based in either ignorance or resentment, or both.
    • MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Ivory League!!

      Must be the part of the soap conference.
  • bluehouse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"But, believe it or not, my wife is not stupid"
    yes she is
  • martian, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I live down the street from Harvard, and they may be super smart when it comes to running horrible companies and filing lawsuits, but they're certainly not completely 'with it'.
    • Ubermensch423, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5i live at harvard and i would suggest that you not generalize about the awareness of an entire student body. also, not being associated with the university, and simply living near it, im sure your interactions with members of the harvard community are not substantive nor numerous enough to give you the knowledge to make an accurate appraisal of the students or faculty.
    • tony23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@ubermensch - You're in law school, right?
    • molecool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Here's something they didn't teach you at Harvard Ubermensch: Nobody likes a smartass ;-)
      And nobody likes law students either...
  • form3hide, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Josh,

    Face it. Your wife is pretty stupid.
    • jboi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Well, yes.. but I forwarded it to you on Monday and you never wrote back! So I just did it.
      I never saw that email! (Sure enough.. it was caught in my spam filters. Makes sense!)


      And it seems her email address is not on his whitelist, he must be really loving his wife ...
  • zeno60, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"No! Sheesh...What do you take me for?"

    Uhhh....
  • Maniaca, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Huh. First Yale and Bush and now Harvard and this woman. The Ivy League ain't what it used to be.
  • laser61859, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2omg some person fell for a phishing e-mail! breaking news!

    who cares?
  • SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7""But, believe it or not, my wife is not stupid. In fact, she has a PhD from Harvard! ""

    Hes stupid for saying that, and shes stupid too.
  • Minos, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4I believe that this is a publicity stunt for Dreamhost.
    No, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I just believe in Greed and Marketing.
    • burke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1it was a link in the Dreamhost August newsletter. One of the subscribers posted it to Digg, as I was about to when I found this.
  • Ascus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3950% of Doctors graduate in the bottom half of their class.
    • Wooism, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4LOL. That math certainly cannot be argued with ;)
  • H2SO4, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Wife=Stupid, let's be honest.
  • mDot, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6"But, believe it or not, my wife is not stupid...."
    Yes, yes she is.
    • Horseshoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Some people would say that reflects on him a bit...
      Maybe she's just easy...
  • tungsai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7dreamhost is my host, and 3x this past 2 weeks, my site's been down. I'm not quite disillusioned YET but I'm on the fence....

    Still waiting on a reply from the latest, although the site is back up.
    • MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Yep, I encounter a lot of problems lately. Here is a publicity stunt by disgruntled customers of dreamhost... they blow. Don't use them. Have a nice day.
  • Snakedal337, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8This is why we need Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 with Anti-Phising Technology Built-in!

    ....or not.
  • inturnaround, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Forrest Gump said it best, "Stupid is as stupid does."

    She did stupid, she is stupid.
  • DisembarkedOne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17heres the kicker...

    Anyway, my wife’s pretty embarassed about the whole thing and made me promise not to tell anyone.
  • ArcusOfSV, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"But, believe it or not, my wife is not stupid. In fact, she has a PhD from Harvard! "

    Facts tend to contradict this statement.


  • rabiddogma, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I know a guy who is a web developer who fell for the Nigerian money transfer scam. Absolute truth. He fell hard too. Gave up a ton of cash to them, made plane trips to the Caribbean etc. I was totally floored.
  • JeremyBanks, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5DreamHost sucks.
  • wastern, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3PHD = book smart. not street smart. it is also a very concentrated area where their knowledge lies
  • dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4" Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:58:15 -0700 (PDT)
    From: thistlej@server4.whmsecure.com
    To: phisher@yahoo.com
    Subject: IRS - Full

    [ . . . : : : IRS FOUNDS : : : . . . ]
    Social Security Number: 356 - 00 - 0258
    Name On Card: Robert Rieger
    Card Number: 6105341453830068
    Expidation Date: 12 / 2007
    CVV: 123
    PIN: 5702
    [ . . . : : : IRS FOUNDS : : : . . . ]

    (Don’t worry, that’s a fake one I generated!)"

    Hey! That's my information! Great, now EVERYBODY knows.
  • aggrazel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18True Story:

    Few years back I worked for a spam filtering company, (similar to Frontbridge, Postini, etc.)

    One time I get a call from a lawyer... well, not just any lawyer, but a partner in the lawfirm (name on the firm and everything, really rich powerful dude) that was a client of ours. He calls my desk because I'm the admin and our spam filtering technology had stopped an email and he didn't notice it in quarantine until the next day, and he was pissed because he was afraid if he didn't respond immediately he wouldn't win his prize.

    Yes, his prize. He had won the lottery in england and they had sent him an email notice to tell him. We stopped the "notice" and he was ready to sue our asses if he didn't win his prize.

    So I sent him on to our own legal guys to deal with him. But he was really hell bent on winning that prize.
    • diggmaddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9why do lawyers have to be so damn greedy? As if he is not already making ***** loads of money by abusing the American justice system, he also wants that extra prize.

      Lord, why hath thou made man so greedy?
  • zclip, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3As far as Ph.Ds go, I think they worse than your average joe at pretty much everything except their field of expertise. All they know is school and books. Of course this is not true for all (doh), but I know some that have never worked a day in their life. Sure they work hard on their studies but it's just not the real world. A good friend of mine dropped out of Medschool partially because he downright hated everyone there for being so disconnected from the real world.
    • zclip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Way to simply the subject, bravo! He quit because the attitudes and mentalities. Say you were really liberal and very much anti-war -- well you wouldn't join the army because of conflicting outlooks on life, etc.

      This was pretty much the same except it wasn't as obvious to him as it would be in a blatant comparison of (for lack of a better term) hippie vs. militant.

      Now he's teaching and coaching basketball which he loves - and I think it's what he always wanted to do. I'd say he's the one of the smartest people I know, simply because he is doing what he enjoys to the fullest extent and doesn't waste his life trying to fit in with a bunch of snobby boarding school brats at some medical school.
  • kevgig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Rock on with your bad self.

    Way to fight back!

    Another approach to safeguarding your wife's info would have been to submit your wife's info over and over again, with fake data. Chances are, the phisher might delete every message that came from your wife's address.

    The problem with all random data is that eventually the phisher could go through each email, test it, and realize they had the real SS#.

    Just a thought.
  • u2wedge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5she must run their data center, too...
    http://blog.dreamhost.com/2006/08/01/anatomy-of-an-ongoing-disaster/

    they definitely run things by the seat of their pants at Dreamhost.
  • n0yd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Guys stop digging please, Dreamhost will have another server outage as usual. :(


    /sarcasm
  • angrycat, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4What a stupid *****.
  • LegendOfLink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"But, believe it or not, my wife is not stupid. In fact, she has a PhD from Harvard! "

    Well I guess they'll give any idiot a PhD nowadays.
  • rkcreative, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Ha ha, my RSS bookmark cut off the full title... All I got was "DreamHost_CEO_Josh_Jones_Wife_Falls_for_Phish..." I'm thinking she left her husband for Trey Anastasio or something...
  • Dysl3xicDog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0That has got to be the dumbest smart person I've ever heard of!
  • joemommasfat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Someone needs to stick up for PH.D.'s here. Most of them are smart people. Getting a Ph.D. in Art History might be a test of how many books you can read, but I'm willing to bet a doctorate in Mathematics, Aerospace engineering or theoretical physics takes at least a little bit of logical reasoning skills and understanding of the world around you.

    I doubt a bunch of high school drop outs sent us to the moon.

    A Ph.D. may not imply intelligence, but it is highly correlated.
    • inturnaround, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Book smarts do not equal street smarts, sir.
    • wizgha, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3God bless their soul for "sending us" (I'm still waiting for my ticket to arrive in the mail) to the moon. Now I can have a good night's sleep and live happily for the rest of my life.
    • zclip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I will fully agree that a Ph.D. implies good deal of intellect,reasoning and problem solving skills but somehow it doesn't always translate into the real world.

      Perhaps simply for a lack of exposure to it. The Ph.Ds I know tend to be pretty absorbed in their subject and know (and care) little about other things.
    • Seumas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You'd be surprised what highschool dropouts have accomplished. Just because you aren't willing to stick with "the program" of a half-assed educational system for sixteen or more years straight doesn't mean you are somehow intellectually flawed or motivationally deprived. Many people have dropped out of highschool to become millionaires and billionaires as well as run large companies, be CEOs, invent great things and create great art and entertainment.

      For some, dropping out of highschool is the last step in a road to failure. For others it is the first step in choosing a path to success that is no better or worse -- simply different -- to professional, paid-for, institutional accadamia.
    • karch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I know, Jesus Christ, there's nothing but disrespect for PhDs around here (not that I am one). Of course having a PhD doesn't translate directly into common sense, but the way you guys just completely chop the woman down seems more a case of sour grapes - "bah, college is for shmucks," "PhDs are pompous retards," "laymen are better than those bespectacled recluse idiots", whatever. Most of the PhDs I've ever met are incredibly smart, cultured, friendly, and yet well-rounded people. Watch less TV and learn a little bit more about real life, guys.
    • mahni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'd try to stick up for people with Ph.D.'s but...

      Ph.D. bashing happens *all* the time - from all types of people (but especially from people who don't have one). Typical bashes here, such as it's something you buy (ignoring those one fellowships / scholarships - people don't consider that one *can* get one with no cost or debt to themselves), it's highly specialized and therefore not useful (although does that make people with Masters less useful, Bachelors even more so, High School... etc. since a Ph.D goes through those steps as well?), experience counts for more than education (though having both still doesn't stop the Ph.D. bashing).

      Though...

      Odd that it's not *her* that brought up the Ph.D., yet it's the one that has the Ph.D. that gets bashed for having a Ph.D. This seems to be a husband supporting his wife's mistake (and trying to be helpful), but that doesn't seem to play well here.

      Some doctoral programs are *extremely* competitive, you don't get in (let alone finish) unless you have competitive test scores, people skills (needed for interviews), and grades. Maybe that doesn't = intelligence, but it seems odd that a Ph.D. would seem to be a knock against someone.

      And maybe this Ph.D. bashing is a proxy for intelligence bashing... since cliches about social skills, "real world" intelligence, etc. come up so often.

      For the children: Kids, stay in school



      A Ph.D. may not imply intelligence, but it is highly correlated.
  • eyecrax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2man... i need to find this old lady's email addy and quick!
  • davidepaula, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'm sorry Josh, I think she is the Harvard PhD kind of stupid!!!
  • ScottMaximus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1http://www.Dreamhostsucks.com
  • DirtySanchez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Most people who have spent that much time in school are pretty stupid when it comes to real world common sense issues. I have a family full of doctors to prove it.
  • nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7She probably bought the PHD from one of those "University Degrees" spams.
  • Spinfusor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is why you need to check the actual URL of links you click on in your emails.

    Phishing scams will often link to an IP address instead of say irs.gov.
  • agimat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Wow. Lotsa people on digg feeling good about themselves today.

  • wurzelgummage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I'd love to see stats of how many MENSA members fall for phishing emails.
    I'm willing to bet it's quite a lot.
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