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How Reddit is Flirting With The Future of Social News
readwriteweb.com — Here's a look at why the idea of a social news site front page that is newspaper-like and presents information in reverse chronological presentation has to change - and how Reddit is flirting with the answer.
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- BennyGreenberg, on 07/07/2008, -8/+24An interesting comparision - It has Stumble at the lead of Social interaction mediums
I am a Digger before I Reddit - I like the Karma over here much better! - dominoman44, on 07/07/2008, -8/+7A very compelling article from an insightful author. Muhammed Saleem understands what is needed with the social news sites.
- robertstevenson, on 07/07/2008, -0/+16I've been hot and cold at Reddit. Today my post Jus Plane Done received less than 30 visitors from Digg and about 700 from Reddit. Not sure why this is.
- RedS0x, on 07/07/2008, -11/+4fewer than 30 visitors*
- RedS0x, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Just for the record, you use less for an amount of something, and fewer for a number of something.
Less music, fewer songs...etc.
- RedS0x, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Just for the record, you use less for an amount of something, and fewer for a number of something.
- BennyGreenberg, on 07/07/2008, -0/+6I wonder what such a big difference comes from...
- skribeForti, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2Of late, most of my submissions have been modded down to oblivion on reddit within seconds of submitting them without anyone visiting. Yay for bots.
- RedS0x, on 07/07/2008, -11/+4fewer than 30 visitors*
- y2kh8r, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4Good stuff! I've been using stumble for a long time, and it is one of the easiest to use.
- AlexBellisBrown, on 07/07/2008, -10/+5Im not a fan of Reddit, I think its ugly, and unimaginative. Digg is much better layed out.
- Roger, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3I used to think so too, but it grows on you.
Also they recently redesigned the front page to be less cluttered and they've added article thumbnails. - raisedinhell, on 07/08/2008, -3/+3and if it werent for people like you, reddit would be controlled by a bunch of assholes just like digg
- Pusod, on 07/08/2008, -6/+2DIGGBASHER!!! Get out of here then! You're the real *****... See this? It's for you.
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━━━━┃ ┗━━━━━━┛┃ - raisedinhell, on 07/08/2008, -2/+3oh i see... you're like one of those so called patriots who says "if you dont like america then leave!"
- Pusod, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1You're still on here? I thought I told you to leave. You can't leave, you know why? It's because you need digg. It has you by the balls! That is why you visit this site everyday checking out the cool articles in the top ten! Yet you call its users and its founders assholes? Where does your loyalty lie? You must be one of those confused, disgruntled digg users filled with hatred. I bet you have a myspace page, or a facebook page, or a twitter account and call them assholes too! What happened to you to have such a negative outlook on life? Make up your mind! Do you like it here or not? I'm willing to bet you do. So what's the reason for calling us assholes?
- raisedinhell, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2i said digg was controlled by a bunch of assholes. i did not attack the founders or its general user base.
dont have myspace, facebook or twitter accounts
i used to find lots of interesting stuff on digg, now i find all that interesting stuff on reddit - about a week early
- Pusod, on 07/08/2008, -6/+2DIGGBASHER!!! Get out of here then! You're the real *****... See this? It's for you.
- Roger, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3I used to think so too, but it grows on you.
- digjam, on 07/07/2008, -2/+13All Reddit has to do is ..flirt with or woo.... MrBabyMan!
On a serious note..all you need to do is..as the diggs increase for a story..increase its font size...thereby most relevant and important ones are right in the face!- Ramble, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3That doesn't work well, you've seen those hodgepodge lists of tags with the most popular being bigger, completely useless. I'm wondering what idiot designed that.
- psevium, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1http://sp.reddit.com/reddit2.html
Tag maelstrom would be good!
- psevium, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1http://sp.reddit.com/reddit2.html
- phantom_mullet, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5But if MrBabyMan moved to Reddit, where would he steal stories from?
(oh, right...probably Digg)
- Ramble, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3That doesn't work well, you've seen those hodgepodge lists of tags with the most popular being bigger, completely useless. I'm wondering what idiot designed that.
- wenfri, on 07/07/2008, -1/+11Been fighting with reddit and karma since I joined Reddit.
Still can''t get anywhere - DocKC, on 07/07/2008, -4/+3Yes, I am on every single site (as someone once joked about), but I haven't gotten a chance to learn Reddit yet! It's on my list!
- placidified, on 07/07/2008, -3/+7Learn reddit ? It's use reddit
- dajernts, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6I really do like Stumble but I think he's dishing them a little too much praise. Stumble's focus of not showing stories by date can be a serious drawback. Especially if you're a technology lover interested in the latest and greatest. Using Stumble along side Digg has always worked the best for me. And regarding Stumble's lack of profitability, his arguement seems unfounded. If I were an ad rep I would consider Stumble's ability to insert any particular page into a user's stream of browsing a great assist. That's were I would want my ad. It would be harder to ignore.
- thereisnostate, on 07/08/2008, -2/+35Reddit is not as censored as Digg. It is a more democratic news system. It is basically an improved, more streamlined version of Digg. Reddit isn't flirting with the idea of a good news site, it already is one.
- Roger, on 07/08/2008, -1/+16Plus reddit is opensource. Something I doubt Digg will ever be.
- Elranzer, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4Not with Microsoft on board.
- lamiaconfitor, on 07/08/2008, -4/+2Who the ***** has censored my God dammed digg?
- Gimpyfuzznut, on 07/08/2008, -1/+14As I've started to visit Reddit more lately, one thing I noticed was their big stories always end up on Digg after some delayed period. Reddit is like a time machine to see what will happen on Digg in the next few hours.
Maybe it just takes more time to get something to Digg's front page. I'm guessing there's also a lot of people who just watch Reddit and then recycle stories here on Digg.
- Roger, on 07/08/2008, -1/+16Plus reddit is opensource. Something I doubt Digg will ever be.
- Roger, on 07/08/2008, -12/+31Reddit > Digg
(sorry, but it's true)- NanoStuff, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3I'm sure to explore both once a day, but if I had to choose, it would be reddit. It's either digg's popularity or inadequate spam filtering that allow stories like "10 prettiest hues of lipstick" to hit the front page. It's a cognitive strain picking out decent reading material. On reddit I can click on everything in sight and guarantee myself a good time.
- mediaspree, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1just wait till sortt comes out
http://www.sortt.com/
anyone want to fund me, I got a snazzy "web 2.0" domain name? anyone? - lamiaconfitor, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3I have a digg 'toolbar.' thank you open source.
http://digg.com/software/Digg_Firefox_Extension - Pusod, on 07/08/2008, -10/+2WHY IS THIS ON DIGG?!!! GET THE FCUK OUTTA MY YARD!
- Pusod, on 07/08/2008, -12/+1Digg down the clowns who are bashing digg! If you like Reddit so freaking damn much why don't you go back there and stick your thumb up your ***** you ***** retard and don't ever come back here! Pick a side you mother ***** hypocrites!!! There is only one original!
- jcl777, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Is that accurate, that a minuscule amount of people go further than the second page of Digg? I always go as far as I need to before I run into where I left off the night before. But maybe that's just me.
- NerveBand, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2I'm just scared of a googlezon or that weird video a few yeras back that predicted personalized media with the down fall of New York Times.
And for those of you who are dishing out that digg sucks and what not, why the hell are you still here, get out already, you're just some messy cat litter waiting to be shoved in the trash.- Pusod, on 07/08/2008, -7/+1***** THE DIGGBASHERS! Get out of here, you're wasting server space! See this? It's for you diggbasher!
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━━━━┃ ┗━━━━━━┛┃- NerveBand, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4Can we get this guy out too? No need for annoying ASCII. Whatever happened to constructive commentary?
- Pusod, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1I guess you're not as loyal as I thought you were! If constructive commentary is what you want, then let me lay it out for you son. Although ASCII can be annoying, I used it to get my point accross just for this particular article. It has proven effective since there has been so much attention gotten from my posts thus far. I would not typically use ASCII for any other reason except for moments like these. I find it much easier using profanity in cases such as this because it fits my agenda easily and gets my point across without having to waste my time typing out a smart rebuttal for imbeciles who care not to read a rant as long as the book War and Peace. Furthermore, you I was wrong in supporting your stand point since you have decided to call me out not knowing anything about me. All I wanted to do was to support you and your excellent comment beforehand and all I got in return was a snide reply back and a bury from you. Thanks bro!
- Pusod, on 07/08/2008, -7/+1***** THE DIGGBASHERS! Get out of here, you're wasting server space! See this? It's for you diggbasher!
- Pusod, on 07/08/2008, -9/+1SEE THIS? IT'S FOR ALL THE DIGGBASHERS!
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━━━━┃ ┗━━━━━━┛┃ - Ilyanep, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1You could use Digg's recommendations engine on the front page in a similar manner. It doesn't have to be Reddit.
- vinceislegend, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3The fact that this is on the front page of Digg should say something to you.
- christopheles, on 07/08/2008, -0/+9I just got into reddit after being a passive user for nine months. Reddit, on the whole, rewards quality submissions whereas on digg pertinent and interesting content gets lost in the shuffle (ex.- Jesse Helms' death never frontpaged on digg). On a tangential note, reddit has less of a hard-on for itself compared to digg. This story has like eight points over there.
As for StumbleUpon, I can't get it to work for me. I told it I like art since I'm an artist and all I get is digitally rendered landscapes and goddamn fairies.- hierophantus, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Digitally rendered landscapes and goddamn fairies ... from 1999, right?
StumbleUpon is good for looking into areas you know little to nothing about about, but it takes a long time to find anything interesting in an area you already know something about. And the age of the articles, which msaleem praises as an opportunity for greater exposure so that better content can stay in the social eye, is usually just staleness or a guarantee that you've already seen what you just blindly stumbled into.
- hierophantus, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Digitally rendered landscapes and goddamn fairies ... from 1999, right?
- danielrichard, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Reddit is dependable on the users' liking I suppose, but definitely a good place to find out some of the good news stuffs that we can't find anywhere else on other social media sites.
- talonh, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3Ugh, msaleem articles also come off very pretentious as if he has some sort of social networking degree. For some reason most of them are critical of digg and predict it's eventual downfall. At least this article didn't have the made up statistics and psuedo scientific babble that mar most of his articles. And this one didn't whine about the great injustices done to digg's top submitters.
Buried as lame- hierophantus, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2He has that disease that makes writers think that big words and jargon are the key to good writing. It's a stubborn condition, too.
- Scottievm, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2The whole article is very poorly written to begin with.
- chadwalters23, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Yeah. i've played with all of 'em a bit. Reddit, Propeller, Mixx, and Stumbleupon. But, I always just want more digg. There are times when I've seen everything on the homepage and upcoming is just boring (not often) THEN reddit is the next best thing. Stumbleupon does nothing for me. I guess it is like the digg recommendation engine and requires a great deal of feedback to be of value. No patience for stumble. Propeller is pretty cool, I like the layout.
- chadwalters23, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I said homepage on digg, intended to say frontpage.
- EnderMB, on 07/08/2008, -1/+2I'm sorry to say this but Digg is dead. It's no longer the poster child of social news as Reddit stole that crown a long time ago. Whilst the front page of Reddit has fallen to ***** as of late the subreddits have taken their own shape, with the programming reddit being possibly the best programming 'forum' on the Internet right now. If this summer weren't so boring I would have probably left Digg a long time ago.
- KillsTheWeak, on 07/08/2008, -3/+1Reddit looks and feels like a newsgroup client from the 80's :P
- judsond, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1I don't understand reddit, how do posts make the front page? What is the order on the front page? Is it always changing? I don't like the idea of going to to a site and just seeing whatever happens to be there that second. Is there some view I'm just not understanding?
- lukes, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2The front page is based on a post being 'hot', which is an algorithm based on how many up votes and how new the post is. As the post gets hotter, it rises up the ranks, eventually making it to the front page or the top spot, as it cools off (more time goes by, less people up voting) it will sink back down again, eventually leaving the front page to be on the second, then the third etc. So the reddit front page is a combination of posts some of which are rising and some of which are falling.
It's quite different from Digg, where a post gets 'promoted' to the front page, then sinks down the front page as more get promoted. With reddit, there's an idea of rising to the top slowly, and then sinking. That's how important posts get to the front page on reddit quickly, because sometimes not even an hour goes by before the post is hot enough to be in the top spot.- judsond, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Thanks! This does mean though that to use reddit you need to look at it more frequently than digg. For example, I can look at all the promoted stories in the last three days on digg in a fairly straight forward manner. Not so with reddit. I do see its advantages though.
- lukes, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2The front page is based on a post being 'hot', which is an algorithm based on how many up votes and how new the post is. As the post gets hotter, it rises up the ranks, eventually making it to the front page or the top spot, as it cools off (more time goes by, less people up voting) it will sink back down again, eventually leaving the front page to be on the second, then the third etc. So the reddit front page is a combination of posts some of which are rising and some of which are falling.
- TheMachine1, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Using Opera 9.51 I just clicked on Reddit and chose a few subjects it changed the front page now every single link on the page no longer works.
- charlesray, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4I like interacting with Reddit better than Digg because it's much more lightweight website and doesn't seem to make simply tasks more complicated (i.e. it just lists comments, instead of having unnecessary animations and effects). However, the community there is completely retarded. This is the primary problem with social news sites: the lack of intelligent editors allows ***** stories like "BUSH SAYS HE WANTS TO RAPE BABIES" (fake example) to get to the top of the page just because people vote without reading them. People just fired for printing ***** like that in the real media.
- brotherfranciz, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I guess this doesn't apply to me - I use the RSS feed so I rarely ever visit the front page. Using the feed lets me see articles from quite a while ago: since I don't always have the time to check out each article that makes it onto my feed (I set it to update every 10 hours, which gives me around 40 articles each update), when I do get around to reading them, they are usually 2-3 days old and generally have over 1000 diggs.
- Yage2006, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Reddit needs to flirt with some better dupe submission removal tools cause the amount of dupes is so high it discourages me from using it.
- enzomedici, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1
Subbmitt is better - http://www.subbmitt.com Why? Because all stories make the front page. - rdomanski1, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I've always been fascinated with the huge difference in the types of stories that are popular on Reddit vs. those on Digg. The reason is that Reddit lets users vote up OR DOWN on submissions, whereas Digg only lets us vote for them. This has a tremendous effect on results.
Makes you wonder what would happen if we could vote both up or down for political candidates :-)
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