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Kevin responds to the HD-DVD key controversy.

blog.digg.com — A new post on Digg's Blog responding to all the HD-DVD key controversy.

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  • moofer, on 10/12/2007, -36/+30Thanks Jay. I hope digg is around for a long time too.
    • kevinrose, on 10/12/2007, -517/+90Opps.. I submitted it here:
      http://digg.com/tech_news/DIGG_What_s_Happening_with_HD_DVD_Stories

    • canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -44/+33digg is doing the right thing. you guys need to get off this 'censorship' tip. digg is an open forum, have you seen the bs that gets posted on the political opinion section? they don't censor stuff, but they have the need and yes, the right, to legally protect themselves as a business enterprise.

      perhaps some of you missed this section of the TOS that you agreed to when you signed up-
      By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree not to use the Services:
      to violate any laws in your jurisdiction (including but not limited to copyright laws);

      and this little doozy-
      Digg may remove any Content and Digg accounts at any time for any reason (including, but not limited to, upon receipt of claims or allegations from third parties or authorities relating to such Content), or for no reason at all.

      digg isn't doing anything wrong, you jackasses that won't get over this issue are the ones destroying the site today.
    • misterhardcore, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14Damn the man.
    • pennyfan87, on 10/12/2007, -4/+131Let me try to understand whats going on...
      Kevin is being buried???
      If you need me, I'll be in the bunker.
    • CasaMan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+26Digg is doing the wrong thing.. Digg is an open forum AND an news site. A news site shouldn't be censored at all.. They should only have to alter comments and stories containing the key. I don't see how removing the possibility to discus any subject is a good good thing..
    • Philluminati, on 10/12/2007, -10/+49Don't give me that *****. If 12,000 people dugg a story it deserves to be on digg. It's not for anyone here to say what is right or wrong. It's a ***** news story.

      Kevin, Alex - Listen to your customers. The people that Digg. Not your ***** sponsors. You've still got GoDaddy and Falcon Northwest and you know the customers are the most important people. Without us....the sponsers wouldn't want to ***** know you!
    • JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32In related news, looks like an HD-DVD promotion group sponsors/has sponsored DiggNation:

      http://revision3.com/diggnation/2006-12-14
    • z00kus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/54370233/
    • lesty, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4http://mirror.sam-network.com/
    • dracostimpy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18Quoth Kevin: "Opps.. I submitted it here:"

      "Opps", he says... Whaddya think, angry mob? Sloppy typing, or is the Kevster sweating it? Keep up the heat, diggers! Burn the stockades!!!11!
    • yarhar, on 10/12/2007, -20/+1809 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

      Shiver me timbers!
    • Jagula, on 10/12/2007, -5/+53I never thought I'd see the day Kevin Rose was dugg down.
    • darthsabbath, on 10/12/2007, -10/+23Kevin, I've been a fan since the TechTV days. But this... is... SPA...

      ... sorry.

      This is *****.

      *ahem*
    • Aurra, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21Poor Kevin, he's being dugg down. I never thought I'd see the day.

      It's never fun to be in the dogg house.
    • EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Sad. I am so very very sad. There is a disturbance in the force.

      Everyone is a sell-out for the right price I suppose. I'm going to take a break from Digg for a while. I have plenty of other RSS feeds that would like room on my Bookmarks Toolbar folder.

      Besides, time away from Digg will be good. Plus, do you guys know how long it takes to trans-code an HD-DVD!!?!? That *****'s like 20 Gigs.
    • Ozzy73, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29Kevin... you should know better than comment abuse
    • Flashman, on 10/12/2007, -12/+11Seriously, this is NOTHING to do with sponsorship! Stop saying that Digg are selling out. It's just Digg trying to do what they think is right.
    • JRJ0710296, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20Logged in just to digg kevinrose down.

      Might as well digg all the Hex stories I can.
    • dignation, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26this week's diggnation is goingo to be pretty awkward...
    • ryouko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9hah, fan boys turned against their master once he "conforms" to save his own ass. Guys, this is obviously a serious threat to many websites. I bet that no one at this site will ever need to know that number since all the work is done for us already in the form of decrypted movie, or programs with it coded into it. You guys saying that it is just a number is ridiculous. That is like saying "This video file is actually just a series of 0's and 1's, YOU CAN'T BAN 0's AND 1's!" Who cares what format it is in. The people that need to know this number have found it already way before all of us. So PLEASE, lay this to rest and stop putting Digg on the defensive.
      "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
      -Edmund Burke
    • borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13i have never dugg kevin down before...this time he deserves it.
    • LotusStarscream, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Do you know what Digg should have done? They should have left the story alone, in a couple of hours it would be gone from the front page anyway. Clearly the only reason that people are submitting/Digging these stories so much is to cause a ruckus.

      However, hindsight is 20/20, so what should be done now?

      Kevin needs to address this on Diggnation, and maybe even show the key for a solid minute. Do this and you will gain back the respect you may have lost.

    • m3mn0n, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Perosnally I think digg did the right thing and you guys are being a bunch of whiney little bitches.

      Seriously, as said, those that need to know, know. Digg isn't apart of the US, it's in the US, but it doesn't have to respect free speech. But it does A LOT, but it's totally understandable that it won't tolerate this sort of ***** when they were personally contacted and they're required by law to abide by the request.

      Do you retards really want Digg shut down just because you felt it necessary to post your stupid code all over the place? If you want a multi-million dollar project turned into ***** over such a stupid and pointless stance, then go ahead and start up a company, hire people that depend on its survival, and then take the stance you support and see your site go down and the lives of all your employees temporarily *****.

      Digg is a good site, but it's filled with so many morons. I'm not going to lie and say I'm for copy protection, but I'm definitely not for this stupid sabbotage of Digg over a petty hex series.

      Go screw up Netscape or something. Leave my digg front page alone, you ***** tards.
  • adam, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32Oops. Meant to Jay not Kevin. Sorry.
    • SamKellett, on 10/12/2007, -8/+66I bet everyone working at Digg secretly hates Kevin for the amount of credit he gets for this website.
    • takeda, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11I think he deserves it since it was his idea as far as I know.
      I don't know Jay, but I already don't like him ;P
    • heffeque, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Cool, but wasn't Digg famous for posting Paris Hilton's phone number with no moral questionings?
  • sw96, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18I don't understand why Digg would be responsible for censoring this story when other sites like, say, Slashdot (which has been around and popular for much longer) is not?
    • hansonc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+53Because slashdot is smart enough not to censor users at all.

      They've had Microsoft come after them and basically said "yeah that's nice, here we'll post your letter for the Slashdot community to make fun of"

      The smart thing would have been for Digg to say "we don't control user content" but instead they went with "please don't sue us, take whatever you want"
    • timdorr, on 10/12/2007, -15/+9Probably because Digg can't afford lawyers and /. can. OSTG (the company /. is a part of) is a bigger company than Digg, so they have more lawyerdogs to fight the DMCA complains that the MPAA is filing. It would probably be throw out of court (it's a ***** NUMBER!), but it still takes a base amount of money to pay a lawyer just to get to that point. Digg wants to spend money on making the site better, not fighting some silly lawsuit. Let someone else deal with it.
    • sw96, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12good point, i hope the money is well spent, ill be checking slashdot for stories like this from now on.
    • hansonc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Hate to burst your Slashdot has more money than Digg bubble but this was in the andover.net days. They were still pretty small and didn't have venture capitalists falling all over themselves to throw money at them like Digg does now.

      Sorry I thought timdorr's comment was a response to my comment. My bad.
    • geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18"Probably because Digg can't afford lawyers and /. can. OSTG (the company /. is a part of) is a bigger company than Digg, so they have more lawyerdogs to fight the DMCA complains that the MPAA is filing."

      One word, three letters: EFF. They *adore* fighting fights like this one, ones they absolutely know as fact they can win. You can't claim copyright on a 16-byte encryption key, meaning there's no shred of legal ground for them to stand on. All Digg has to do is say "We have no claim over posts", turn the fight over to the EFF and laugh on their way to the bank.

      Instead, Digg, the same people who criticized Google for standing up to a government's demands, stands up to CORPORATE demands. How ***** pathetic.
    • DiggNazi2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Adam is lying or stupid. Digg only has to remove comments or stories if they get a lawfully issued takedown notice. They are *NOT* required to preemptively remove ANYTHING.

      In fact, if you have a policy of removing content at your whim, you actually increase your legal liability.

      Its sad to see that Digg is bending over to big media.. But hey, they're taking dollars from Big Media, so what did you expect.. principles?
  • nikon1123, on 10/12/2007, -13/+8Crappy title, Kevin didn't say anything.
  • Fizzle, on 10/12/2007, -13/+10Kevin didn't say anything, Jay did
  • DiggFight, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15It doesn't matter if they can't win legally, they didn't even try. There is a BIG difference between resisting and bending over. If I wanted to see a torn ass, I'd look up goatse, not digg.
    • Smeed, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6Resisting and bending over has a totally different meaning when you could potentially loose the project that youve dumped tons of your money into.
    • drummer1189, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3the project seems lost to me...
    • drummer1189, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3looks to me like the project is lost now...
  • TSK05, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30Digg has caved into censorship, plain and simple. As said in the comment above, digg has bent over...you know what happens next.

    Also, I love the way he starts the message casually as if this isn't a big deal for digg and they aren't gathered in some room or exchanging phone calls right now trying to figure out what to do.
  • Ricapar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+45A string of hexadecimal values is not intellectual property.
    • paxgaea, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Exactly. Digg needs to toughen up a bit.
    • JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17The number it's not even copyrighted in any form, because if it was, then at least the number would be displayed in the copyright form (and thus publicy availiable).

      This is stupid, following Digg Staff logic I would be able to shut down every blog post or comment thread on the Internet by posting the number in their forums or comments. A search query in google returns thousands of results, are they gonna attack them all?

      I think /. , reddit, wired, etc are doing the best: act like nothing is happening and just say "users own their posted content". Start this madness of deleting lots of stories and banning users is blatant cowardice.
    • rhythmchanges, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2What it unlocks can be copyrighted.
    • generalloy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"What it unlocks can be copyrighted."

      VCRs can be used for 'evil' too. Or fair use..
    • Misesean, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@Ricapar: "A string of hexadecimal values is not intellectual property."

      @rythymchanges; "What it unlocks can be copyrighted."

      What it unlocks is just a longer string of "hexadecimal" (as if radix matters!) values.

      (In a sane world, Ricapar would be right...)
    • Cerebral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have a question... how does anyone know that it is NOT copyrighted. It is not TRUE that if it were copyrighted then we could all see it. In theory you are right however look at all of the code lawsuits and threats that have taken place where the code is not displayed anywhere yet it is copyrighted. I do think that everything that is copyrighted should be in plain text for everyone to see.

      I still don't understand how this infringes against any kind of law considering it should be free speech. By itself the string is nothing so how is it (being in text on a website) circumventing copyright protections. If this is the case then anyone who owns an automobile needs to be issued speeding tickets daily because cars have the ability to travel faster than the speed limit.

      I would understand if a story were posted that had a link to the executable file that would unlock the DVDs but this... I do not understand. One could argue that this is nothing more than color combinations :)
  • KapitalK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8The thing is, just like the first people to get taken to court over illegally downloading music, if they can make an example of a news website (like digg.com) then they will probably push for as much as they can get over it, which obviously isnt good for any of us reading this right now.

    Sure commenting on the leak is fine, but by repeatedly pasting in the key all over digg isnt helping. (although, im sure anyone who actually wants the key either has it by now, or can get it in 5 seconds flat off a google search)
    • BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2On the contrary, their threats are that they own a number and nobody's allowed to post it.

      If we let community leaders think we'll all live happily with them caving in to the MPAA etc., then all such sites become crap and worthless.

      People need be aware that caving to (yes very real and dangerous) bullies is not something you do without losing a little respect from your peers and the people in your community.
  • ballitis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16DIGG.com dugg down?
  • faustianideals, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3digg isn't doing anything wrong. I wish the asshats who keep posting the code would stop. They are just causing more problems for themselves. Why not just protest the people that are forcing digg to delete these posts? -_-
  • NorseKilla, on 10/12/2007, -19/+34//
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  • boojams, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4I think digg did what it had to do. Quit all the whining and cut them some damn slack.
  • safiire, on 10/12/2007, -9/+7How much more ***** can Digg become?
  • nitro1710, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6Oops, just clicked Bury instead of Digg...
  • pcx99, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20Hey Jay,

    Do what you think is right but /. didn't censor, reddit didn't censor, they didn't delete and they didn't ban so, while unfortunate, there will be fallout from this. You can't run a big party and then start telling people they can't drink and expect everyone to stick around while you enforce prohibition.

    Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad, but banning people--well, in a perfect world you'd be doing some apologizing right now.

    Anyway, good luck with all this. You're going to need it.
  • tecopa03, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2Kevin Rose gets dugg down, check out comment 3:
  • AriX, on 10/12/2007, -13/+709 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    Come on guys, you can do better than this!
  • BortQ, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5SELL-OUTS!!!
  • crash331, on 10/12/2007, -12/+709 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
  • KeyLimePie, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4"we all need to work together to protect Digg from exposure to lawsuits that could very quickly shut us down."

    Sorry Jay, but principals come before Digg.
  • ditup, on 10/12/2007, -8/+0Submitted a while ago. but Philluminati what does Alex have anything to do with this. He doesn't do anything with the company, he just co-hosts Diggnation. Not really anything to do with the story but you sounded like an idiot and I wanted to point that out
  • cowabuse, on 10/12/2007, -26/+22Kevin stop being a pussy!

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  • SounDemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8All I'm going to say is.....
    Section 230 of the Communications decency act.
  • darthsabbath, on 10/12/2007, -10/+809 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    Yeah, I know... everyone's doing it. ***** it. I don't care. I respect copyright. I don't pirate movies, games, or music. I don't believe anyone should use the above key to pirate movies, games, or music. But ***** trying to suppress it.

    So, to state it again, because Digg deleted another post...

    I've got a fever, and the only cure is MORE 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0!!! o/
  • Dgenx, on 10/12/2007, -12/+909 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.

    Ban me Digg.
  • CiscoNoShut, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6http://texyt.com/Digg+founders+took+HD-DVD+sponsorship+00071
  • chaosmachine, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Droid09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
  • venom8599, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If I recall correctly, the DMCA (which is presumably what the "content owner" is using to issue a request) allows for the submitter to notify the network provider (Digg in this case) that they don't believe it's infringing. (A counter-notice.) Then they're supposed to put it back up.
  • TheSource, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Actually it was Jay Adelson that responded, but alright, I won't bury it as inaccurate :)
  • Dylan47, on 10/12/2007, -6/+209 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    that should be a new name for a star wars robot.
  • ViciousVic, on 10/12/2007, -9/+10Guys I understand what is going on and how the Digg community must feel bad. But come on, they have to take down these numbers it's just the way it is. I am sure everyone at Digg doesn't want to take down the numbers but they legally have to. If you were in there positions you would do the same thing.
    • Roaring48, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Aaahh! A voice of reason! ^_^
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"I am sure everyone at Digg doesn't want to take down the numbers but they legally have to. If you were in there positions you would do the same thing."

      That statement is a ***** cop-out. The REAL issue here is that Digg just doesn't feel like going to court. This has nothing to do with legality and everything to do with a gentleman's agreement. Digg is not violating the law by allowing users to submit a hex key. A hex key is NOT intellectual property and any court action trying to prove otherwise would fail miserably. The problem is, it still costs money to go to court as well as time. Digg simply doesn't want to spend the time and money defending themselves. This is the inherent problem with advertising-funded media. Inevitably, sponsorship=censorship no matter how hard you work to avoid it. There will ALWAYS be an impasse, and 9.999999999999999 times out of 10, the rich, greedy corporation flexes their muscles, whips out the bull horn and the cowards who care nothing for freedom shake in their boots and relent their souls.
    • p0tent1al, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@ ViciousVic

      "Guys I understand what is going on and how the Digg community must feel bad. But come on, they have to take down these numbers it's just the way it is. I am sure everyone at Digg doesn't want to take down the numbers but they legally have to. If you were in there positions you would do the same thing."

      Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

      They didn't have to do anything. They could of stood their ground. Maybe you need to do research on RIAA and the Bush Administration, because what Digg is doing now is exactly what they are doing. A string of numbers CANNOT be copyrighted. Digg is merely linking to other sites, and is a news site.

      For instance, Slashdot, a site just like Digg, received a takedown notice from Microsoft. What did they do? They posted it up for everyone to see it, and told Microsoft to go screw themselves.

      What does Digg do when they receive a takedown notice?

      a. Crawl up in a ball
      b. Delete all stories which they think are suspicious
      c. submit a ***** blog detailing why they did it
      d. Crawl up in a ball
      e Let down all their fans
  • Roaring48, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4So now we're perpetuating a (previously) secret encryption key that some irresponsible idiot made public? Your credit card numbers are not copyrighted but you still want to keep them secret, don't you? Sharing of knowledge is fine and dandy but not when it's hurting someone. I've heard "freedom of speech" being mentioned, but it's actually ABUSE of freedom of speech! Most of you are probably worried that you won't be able to obtain illegal copies of movies, that's why you are so against Digg for looking out for the HD-DVD people. No wonder the movie and music businesses are losing money! People aren't supporting the people and businesses that are entertaining them! Put yourselves in the shoes of the people who are being affected by this. To put things into perspective, if someone obtained a bunch of (or even one) credit card numbers and made it public, then other people would in turn post them to Digg and other sites and one or more of those credit card numbers were yours, would you still be upset that your post(s) was taken down? I don't think you would. WAKE UP PEOPLE!! Use your common sense!
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Most of you are probably worried that you won't be able to obtain illegal copies of movies, that's why you are so against Digg for looking out for the HD-DVD people."

      The Fair Use clause of the copyright act allows the making of copies for backup purposes. The issue is that I have every right to make a personal backup copy of my media. Copy protection encryption schemes violate my rights as a citizen and customer.
    • darthsabbath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh ***** that excuse. I don't pirate movies... most people don't. This is ***** stupid because Digg is censoring its users. If they would've left well enough alone, it wouldn't have been a problem. Yes, Digg can freely censor... it's their site. But at the same time, WE provide the content. They've given us these keys. You want Web 2.0? You've ***** got Web 2.0... people need to realize that they have the power to institute change, if only they'd use it.
  • JurassicC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You're absolutely right. Movie stars need more money so they can buy things that are nicer than mine
  • CrisisVT, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Diggers, leave your desks and get an education then come back and try and criticize Digg for exercising corporate ethics and responsibility.

    Revision 3 has to report to the people that invest in it; this does not include just sponsors. In order for Revision 3 to grow and stay alive, they need to be taken seriously. Throwing laws, not matter how overstepping, in the face much larger and more powerful organizations will only end badly for them; it’s not Digg’s responsibility or place to fight bad laws…it’s yours the citizens.

    It’s easy when you have no threat of being affected to berate Digg and Kevin about taking down HD DVD information. However, if Digg was once such the great tool and site you all claim it was, why don’t you mature with it and continue to help it grow rather than throwing up your hands and wanting to abandon it at the slightest bump in the road.
  • not1butme, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1And now for something completely different.

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  • ConfusedSoul, on 10/12/2007, -5/+009 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
  • tgmoo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I support Digg and Kevin Rose. I don't care WHAT the rest of you think.
    • maurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree. Know what battles are worth investing time and money into. Something gripping news piece that people are better off reading, some deep political secret that concerns the masses. A 'stolen' encryption key? I agree with Digg's move. Why make it a bigger deal?
  • maurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree. Know what battles are worth investing time and money into. Something gripping news piece that people are better off reading, some deep political secret that concerns the masses. A 'stolen' encryption key? I agree with Digg's move. Why make it a bigger deal?
  • maurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree. Know what battles are worth investing time and money into. Something gripping news piece that people are better off reading, some deep political secret that concerns the masses. A 'stolen' encryption key? I agree with Digg's move. Why make it a bigger deal?
  • slapshot24, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This is absolutely pathetic. And by "this" I mean users burning down Digg because they disagree with an editorial decision. If you don't like the decision of Kevin to remove the DVD key that's fine. Express it on _a_ story about that decision. Don't destroy every single front page story and every article with your childish antics. I know I'll be dugg-down for this, but learn that there is such a thing as perspective. They made an editorial decision. You disagree. Don't ruin Digg for everyone else because you didn't get your way and want to throw a hissey-fit. Maybe this finally proves that the user-submitted content model just doesn't work: when the mob doesn't get their way they start behaving like children.
    • macmcrae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1burning down digg? Bwahahah. Hardly. This little explosion of entertainment is nothing but a few more stories for digg users to not read and then comment on.
  • Msoltanian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If Digg gets sued, none of you guys will even visit this site not to mention go and stand up for them in the court of law. It's easy copy pasting the codes behind your computer. If the site is to get shut down, let it be with maniac users not with a law suite of billions. I WOULD HAD DONE THE SAME IF I WAS KEVIN ROSE OR JAY ADELSON.
  • M0b1u5, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1So, just because some blowhard lawyer "believes" that posting a number constitutes IP infringement, you pull the stories immediately. Can you see how ***** retarded that is?

    If someone rings and tells you they believe they have the winning lottery ticket - do you give them the money without checking their ticket? No - of course not.

    A takedown notice does not have to be complied with if YOU believe it is *****.

    All you had to do was call your own lawyers and ask them if posting a number equates to anything the **AA can use to force a take doen. Without a doubt, your lawyers would simply laugh liek crazy, and tell you to ignore the notice.

    Oh - but then you'd lose your sponsor for Diggnation I guess.

    Well, your short sighted decision has resulted in you being mocked from one end of the web to the other (which is a real trick, and few have mastered it!) and you have now been shown to be the complete and utter ***** idiot you truly are.

    Nice work - moron!
  • earobinson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wait a minute I don't buy that for a minute there is no law as far as I know against telling people where to find content that violates copywrite law so as long as digg isent hosting the key whats the problem?
  • Roaring48, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0brstilson, I accidentally buried one of your comments. I misunderstood the "thumbs down" icon to mean disagree. I didn't mean to bury the comment. Sorry! Hopefully it can be revived by someone.
  • Caffeinate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1DRM screwed itself. The MPAA and the RIAA have sued and bullied too many people. Vista sucks because of DRM. You can barely do anything on the web anymore without screams of DMCA Abuse!

    To hell with the MPAA and RIAA. They aren't going broke - we've heard for years about how the poor old RIAA and MPAA is going to stop being able to make movies, etc. They would have a lot more funds if they quit paying armies of lawyers to sue everyone under the sun. They would have a lot more money if they quit spending so much money on disastrous schemes to "protect" their content.

    Say what you like, but Vista was turned into a hellaciously expensive mess for everyone involved in coding drivers for it, people writing software for it and Microsoft themselves, and you can lay it at the feet of worthless attempts at DRM. Digital Rights Management is a misnomer - it's Digital Rights Manipulation.

    I support Digg, and hope for it to stay around, but blatantly protecting the efforts of the MPAA and RIAA to continue their destruction of IT because of greed is a large heap of manure.
  • Fett101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This just in, Digg full of whiny high schoolers.
  • magaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1god I miss digg from the old days before all you morons found out about it. They were served papers that it needed to be removed and thats what they are doing I hope you all get banned. I believe me I'm the first to say F the RIAA, MPAA but seriously you people are being toolbag children. Digg isn't a warez site or underground hacking site, so a get a grip and maybe go outside for a walk or something.
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