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Microsoft Supports OpenID
sixapart.com — Have you heard about OpenID? The simple idea that your web address is one form of identity, just like your email adddress or even your physical address? Well, back in December, we mentioned how OpenID has been gaining momentum like crazy, but today, things just went to a whole new level.
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- nextlevel233, on 10/12/2007, -40/+1Kinda first comment. Sry
- Hale, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Very cool, although the only other site I've used that accepts OpenID is Zooomr.
- intangible, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18There's also Yahoo and LiveJournal... OpenId is the solution to the "hundreds of accounts and passwords" problems that we have these days with every site that requires a login. No it doesn't do the "Web of Trust" thing yet, but keep your eye on it, it'll be expanded to that in the next couple of years.
Now Digg, come on! Make our accounts into OpenIds for us! - dexev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1There's also jyte.com, which launched recently.
- intangible, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18There's also Yahoo and LiveJournal... OpenId is the solution to the "hundreds of accounts and passwords" problems that we have these days with every site that requires a login. No it doesn't do the "Web of Trust" thing yet, but keep your eye on it, it'll be expanded to that in the next couple of years.
- nickway, on 10/12/2007, -14/+4As long as Microsoft does not buy it, we will be okay.
- daveman692, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13The good news is it isn't something that can be bought. Rather a spec devloped by an open community.
- cooldudevamsee, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Did I miss some word like "LIVE" before or after open-id ?
- endlessraining, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well, it'll certainly gain alot more adopters now. Ive only ever seen openid on livejournal though.
- logomancer, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6Why do I get a sinking feeling this is "Embrace and Extend" 2.0?
- CrossedBearings, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Yes, good point. how many times have we see MS jump on a good idea only to trash it buy 'MS custom extensions to the standard' and we all have to around in circles for years with open source vs MS interoperability issues.
- MemoryDump, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11first time I hear about it.
time to read up about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID - justin22290, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This is the first time i have heard about OpenID but i read up on it a little. I can see the benefits of it and why companies would like it. But, I feel the best part of the internet is the anonymity and the ability to freely with out a set identity is what makes it inviting. But, this turns into something wear everyone has a bar code.. I feel it has its advantages and disadvantages but i feel that it isn't the best idea for the internet we know and ... i think i love :)
Please convince me otherwise, if you know more on this OpenID- Tanath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No reason you can't have multiple OpenIDs. And they can be just as anonymous as another ID.
- fquednau, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Google sitemaps has a verification scheme in place that allows you to prove ownership of a site (-> url). It also has a large base of users that use Googlemail, etc. I.e. they could readily provide a combination of url + password. Now if Google supports OpenID, I would automatically get my OpenID. That would be really sweet!
- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Sounds like a good idea, but what happens if someone, somehow, manages to get hold of your ID?
This is exactly the opposite of what "they" (meaning the security "experts") have been telling people for the past X years to NOT do, using one "password" for every site you visit is a bad idea, all it takes is someone to find it out and they have access to everything you've ever signed up for.
Good on paper, bad in reality, in my opinion.- akinder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9OpenID isn't centralised, if someone took your identity, then just shut down your auth server and make a new one. Besides, in order to 'steal' your identity using OpenID, they would have to hack into either your website ( if you're using your own OpenID auth server ), or hack into LJ, Vox, etc where you have your credentials stored. And even then, the worse they could do would be accept an identity request from a questionable website.
And even then, no password is passed.
I think this is an awesome move, and to the poster above, I would definitely love to see Digg implement OpenID. - kevincw01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@Aliarse: Security requires 2 things. Somthing to protect, and somthing to protect the protected. In this case, former is your openID and the later is the domain name. If you use livejournal or microsoft for your openID, then you must trust them to maintain posession of their domain and your associate with your openID. If you run your own auth server on your own domain, then you must protect domain name.
Sure, you have a single point of failure but if someone steals your domain name, you have much bigger problems. With openID, you can still sign up for an openID at every site that accepts openID and then you can still have your 12,000 login names or passwords.
- akinder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9OpenID isn't centralised, if someone took your identity, then just shut down your auth server and make a new one. Besides, in order to 'steal' your identity using OpenID, they would have to hack into either your website ( if you're using your own OpenID auth server ), or hack into LJ, Vox, etc where you have your credentials stored. And even then, the worse they could do would be accept an identity request from a questionable website.
- ncredneck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Yes before you use vista to create your id you may want to make sure you are also using digital certificates to protect it. The trust is based on a digital certificate so it may need to be validated by a third party provider. At the least use a self signed certificate with it.
- dreadsword, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1http://slantt.net/news/Microsoft_Supports_OpenID
This is a new mashup that I put together - it takes Digg top stories, get's their URL's, grabs tags associated with them from delicious, and based on those tags, lists content related to the Digg story. Enjoy! Feedback = appreciated.- Trumpi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Here's some feedback that I think you'll appreciate: Please don't use digg to plug your website.
- jvq1958, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Here is a nice approach to online identity management - http://www.edentiti.com/ident
- daveman692, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1threading doesn't seem to work here :-
- abaraki, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Microsoft's Passport system tried to do the same and was a colossal failure.
- Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5no because passport was centralized meaning there was only one provider
and it was to the best of my knowledge proprietary
openid is decentralized theres more then one provider so anyone can provide them
making an abundance of OpenIDs
Openid is also as its name implys open so anyone can use it
- Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5no because passport was centralized meaning there was only one provider
- xatx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1finally some good news :)
- CrossedBearings, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Yes I think we are all in agreement - come on Digg !!! IMPLEMENT OPENID !!!!!
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