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The Daily Show is as substantive as the "real" news
arstechnica.com — The Daily Show is much funnier than traditional newscasts, but a new study from Indiana University says it has the same amount of meat on its bones when it comes to coverage of the news. The brand of news coverage Jon Stewart and the rest of The Daily Show's staff brings to the airwaves is just as substantive as traditional news programs.
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- OBDriftwood, on 10/12/2007, -2/+101Says more about the decline in quality of traditional news casts than the veracity of the Daily Show. TV news used to feature investigate journalism, now it features stories from the supermarket tabloids.
Still, Stewart is much more fun to watch than Couric.- sets13, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24I think thats kinda the point.
- deanlowe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30I wonder if they show The Daily Show in Katie's time slot would they get better numbers.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -57/+9So? Both are nothing but leftist propaganda machines. Whatever "news" they give is pretty much BS DNC talking points.
- enki25, on 10/12/2007, -10/+39@flag
Yeah, unlike Fox which is a universally accepted beacon of truth.
IMO there's way more truth in humor than in fear mongering. See if you can identify which network goes with which. - FlaG8r, on 10/12/2007, -7/+69C'mon now, without Fox I wouldn't even know Foley was a Democrat.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -37/+8didnt say it was, enki. But the mere fact that you on the left still cannot admit that the bulk of the media, including TDS are rabidly leftist in their slant is just amazing.
But how could I be susprised. The only target of bias you seem to have is Fox News while you ignore:
CNN
MSNBC
ABC
CBS
NBC
NPR
CNN International
CNBC
NY Times
LA Times
Chicago Trib.
and on and on
but let me guess, those networks are totally fair, right? - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -34/+6"C'mon now, without Fox I wouldn't even know Foley was a Democrat."
Wow!
this one instance of Fox putting the wrong party for this guy and you guys scream bloddy murder.
When CNN put an X over the VP, you thought that was just a laugh riot. Or when one of the networks started rolling camera before a presidental speech showing Bush just looking ahead, doing nothing, that was just comedy gold.
The Foley as a Democrat "scandal" just pushes you over the edge though. - desc1, on 10/12/2007, -38/+6deosnt say much about the leftists. no suprise seeing they get there news from a two bit hackjob, and steven colbert aka the unfunniest man alive. do you libs realize how pathetic you look trying to pass off these two jokes as legtimate news?
- enki25, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18@flag
No, most of the major media channels are owned by large corporations, which have a clear reason to support the modern GOP. Therefore, they tend to be biased in the direction of republicans. - PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11ny times = place bush decided to leak his nie
they also decided to out plame
they also used judith miller to promote the war..
abc just recently showed path to 9/11 written by you neos..
yeah they are obviously liberal mouth peaces.
and yeah it is the corporate media, not the liberal media... they target the most audience so they can sell the most advertisement, if anything they are reality biased. - whiskeymb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20After watching the daily show for years, I'd likely agree with this study. They seem to always have a good bit of coverage for the topics at hand. Just because it's comedy doesn't mean it's not accurate. Facts can always be told in a funny way.
- skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -23/+3Wow, thank you Captain Obvious!!!
Boy, NOTHING gets past THIS guy! - PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19I can guarentee that if clinton was president jon stewart would be making fun of a stained blue dress.
I bet these gusy think jay leno and all comedians that do politics because they all come down on bush.. well HE IS PRESIDENT and if you were old enough to watch tv when clinton was president, they all made fun of him and gore as well. - crweaks23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@desc1...
Uhh, this was a study done by Indiana University. I haven't seen one "Lib" say that the Stewart/Colbert hour of TV every night is the be all, end all of news. However, according to this study, it's possible that you'll learn about just as many current events as if you watched a network broadcast, ignoring bias.
This really isn't even a partisan argument... why are the right wingers so scared of Colbert and Stewart that they have to belittle and condemn them, and make asinine remarks about them on every single Digg post. @Flag especially, you're on every one.
Just relax, and get a sense of humor. Lots of people like it, if you don't... who cares? Bottom line: it's a comedy show... Just laugh... it's what people do when they aren't scared into submission. - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Yeah, news shows nowadays are mostly full of crap, leaving details out or skewing stories.
I'm disillusioned, this doesn't say that my favorite Jon Stewart show is a great piece of journalism or so forth, but rather that news segments that last 10-30 seconds hardly show a complete picture of what goes on around the world. I've seen news stories reported on places skewed beyond belief. I've seen thugs and convicted criminals compared to Nelson Mandela because the reporters didn't bother to read up on the history of the events going on. In the end most news segments are terribly done nowadays. Its all made in easy-to-digest segments that have little touch with reality. Whatever happened to the professionalism involved in all this? - buryme, on 10/12/2007, -19/+3Look at the comments dugg and buried in this thread and try to argue that Digg has a balanced political spectrum. Then look at the title of the story and just laugh... No seriously, just don't forget to bury this comment. Good boy!
- zang74, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9@flag564
Maybe the media's not leftist. Maybe you've just swung more to the right? Do you really believe there's some sort of left-wing media conspiracy? A little bias here and there, sure, but there can't be THAT many leftists in a country where the last two presidential elections have been split nearly down the middle between the (barely) left Democrats and the right-wing Republicans. - Fritzed, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11All of you dumb libs need to stop burying flag and just admit it. Facts have a liberal bias.
- Kbennett, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I'm a huge fan of the Daily Show [and the Colbert Report], and I support the idea that they do cover the events of a day or week pretty well. I'm not sure I would ever call that coverage "substantive." It's a comedy show that makes fun of real news stories and the media who report them, don't make it out to be more than that.
- darthtrevino, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Psshhh, no investigative journalism..pleeeaaase....
You Jackin' It? - phaed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@buryme
Its not that Digg doesn't have has a balanced political spectrum. Its more like the entire human population thinks one way and you guys think another. Digg just reflects that. The only place that is fair and balanced to you is FOX news and the like which spoon feed you what u want to hear and since thats the only thing your brain doesn't autmatically block out you go on thinking you live in reality.
- jtgonzal, on 10/12/2007, -10/+57I wouldn't be surprised if the Daily Show is more accurate, as well.
- Asshate, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2American media? Good night and good luck.
- hotbeefman, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29We all know this right? I mean if you don't watch the daily show you probably think you have the same rights as a month ago....
- martalli, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7All the news that's fit to make light of...
...I'm almost ashamed to say its the only TV show I 'tivo'. - videoCT, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39my favorite Katie "bad reporter" Couric quote was from the day after the Columbine shooting. She was interviewing a student and asked "Is there a particular band that these boys listened to?" Talk about a leading question.
- PigThief, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Oh noes! Rammstein turns our children into Satan-worshipping, heartless, killing machines.
I don't really like Rammstein (although some parts of their songs are good, I'm just not into metal), I have a few friends that do and none of them have killed people. Does anyone remember how many people were accusing that band of brainwashing people after Columbine? Crazy. - skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Right because every German who rolls their R's when they talk must be polluting the minds of our youth. Nevermind what the lyrics ACTUALLY translate to.
- PigThief, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Oh noes! Rammstein turns our children into Satan-worshipping, heartless, killing machines.
- toasty168, on 10/12/2007, -7/+32God bless John Stewart for telling it like it is and making fun of it.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -41/+10Yeah!
Thank God someone can give the left-wing side of the news.
As if the other guys didnt do that already.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -41/+10Yeah!
- ResXhacker, on 10/12/2007, -13/+12The Daily Show always tends to put a left-wing spin on news content that is normally right-winged from Fox News(Bush Administration Propagnda Channel). The Colbert Report does the same thing, exept it really parodizes Fox News, which for me, i find hilarious.
- jtgonzal, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9We all know how much respect Stewart has for 24-hour news channels. If anything, he's exposing the details left out by those propaganda machines (CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC). Liberal and Conservative. He strives to in a way balance out the bias in the news. And by he I mean, of course, Jon Stewart and the Daily Show writers.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -26/+10At least one of you has the balls to admit the leftist bias of that show. Many of your fellow libs are still trying to pass the lie around that the show is somehow balanced.
As if anyone belives that. - enki25, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20@flag
What is it with you republicans and screaming about "bias" when the news doesn't make your side look good?
Sometimes, a fair representation of a debate can look like it's biased. Like, when one side says the sky is blue and the other side says it's a terrorist. - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -21/+5"What is it with you republicans and screaming about "bias" when the news doesn't make your side look good?"
Maybe the same thing that people on the left have when they scream that Fox News is a right-wing propaganda machine because they had the nerve to ask Bill Clintoon a tough question. - enki25, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11@flag
Any sane person with half a brain could spend 5 minutes watching Fox news and see it's right wing propaganda. It has nothing to do with their heroic bravery in the face of Bill Clinton's public humiliation. - PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6actually they do that with everything
thats why we have activist judges.newt wanting the ability to overturn furture supreme court rullings.
the swiftboating of many republicans liek scott ritter, paul oniell, mccain, powell
we havee them crazy liberal scienctist
all of our schools are filled with liberal teachers
the un is full of liberals
the gao is full of liberalas
the aba is full of liberlas
tv is controlled by liberals
I really dont see how conservatives got into power with liberals controlling everything.
er i mean leftists as that is tthe new insult of the week to try to equate liberals with chavez. - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4flag:
I have a question for you...
If the rest of the media is in fact "liberal," how does that justify Fox's extreme conservative bias?
Keep in mind, this bias is to the point of misrepresentation and outright lies, which are well-documented.
It's a lot like medicine quacks who like to tear down the FDA and the medical establishment for their "failures." It doesn't make their vitamin-hocking any more effective. - deanlowe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4If they're so Fair and Balanced, can anyone name a Liberal host on Fox? (besides Colmes, he's not really a host on that show anyways)
- BrandNewDigger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4When I went away to college I started watching the Daily show, and later on the Colbert Report, but I also watch CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News depending on who is hosting that hour. Stewart and Colbert are funny, and they DO mention just about everything in the news, but they don't give the whole picture, nor are they obliged to as they are a faux news show. I have no problem with this, but I do have a problem with IU saying that these faux news shows are just as accurate as the real news channels.
We all know that Fox news is biased, but no where do they state that they are not biased. We all know that the majority of their hosts are republicans. But that doesn't make them not "fair and balanced." Whenever they debate a topic they will have someone from the republican party and someone from the democratic party, EXACTLY the same way CNN and MSNBC news do it. And when a major issue is reported on, Fox news doesn't say anything inaccurate. On the other hand, on their hosted primetime shows, the hosts DO state their personal-biased sometimes inaccurate point of view. But what is wrong with that? CNN and MSNBC do the same things, just biased more toward the liberals.
Fox news is watched by old people. That's what Nielson says. And its mostly true. The other more liberal channels are watched by younger audiences (the better advertisement group.) But that's just the way it is. There are more democrats in the U.S. than there are republicans, but we have a republican present because all the 18-24 year old liberals decided not to vote.
I know someone who works high up at CIA and she says that all their tv's are always on CNN 24/7. Does this mean that the CIA thinks CNN is the most accurate news channel? Who knows, but we also know the CIA told Bush there were WMD's in Iraq, so you never know who to trust.
All I ask is that you sit down one night, and watch one hour of CNN/MSNBC, and then one hour of Fox News. I promise you that you won't notice as big of a difference as you'd think. But the differences that will become apparent should make you further research that topic and find out for yourself what is the truth.
Personally I want to watch a station with zero bias that shows both sides on every issue, but you aren't going to get that because we're all human and we're all biased. Just because everyone on digg is a liberal and Fox news is the only channel that has a conservative bias, that doesn't give you the right to hate it without being able to give specific examples of Fox's inaccuracies versus the inaccuracies of other news stations.
The media is mostly liberal, just as most educators, artists, anthropologists, american jews, etc are mostly liberal. Younger people who are students, or don't make more than the median salary are more likely to be liberal. Just don't laugh when you become a republican when you see the light in your 40's :) Let the liberal digging down commence, but please just look for the facts. - deanlowe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Other than Olbermann, can anyone name an outright liberal host on any cable news channel? Can a show have a liberal bias with no liberal host?
- ahkum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Who is as conservative on Fox, besides Hannity who is on a combo show with Colmes, as Olberman is liberal?
Don't say O'Reilley, because he is far from a conservative on many topics.
Greta isn't really political from what I've seen, she's just tragedy TV with court cases and/or lost women.
I think Shepard Smith would be ultra-conservative if given an opinion-based show, but he mostly has to do "the news", - Reap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Just don't laugh when you become a republican when you see the light in your 40's :) "
If the Republican party continues the way it is, I will never be one. This is not to say I disagree with the great majority of their ideas- there are certainly the ones I disagree with, such as abortion and stem cell research, but I can certainly see the benifits of a small, fiscally responsable government- which is NOT what the Republican party is endorsing.
I'm proudly independant because I think about each issue on my own. - fortezza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1by enki25 on 10/04/06 Block/Report this User
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Any sane person with half a brain could spend 5 minutes watching Fox news and see it's right wing propaganda. It has nothing to do with their heroic bravery in the face of Bill Clinton's public humiliation.
I agree enkie. I tried watching Fox news a few weeks ago, and just about fell to the ground laughing because I couldn't believe what I was hearing was supposedly the "news". Its hard to imagine anyone but totally brained-washed individuals believing that stuff the try to push on the public.
- WarPirate, on 10/12/2007, -41/+15And the title explains why Democrats and liberals are so dim about real world issues. They are confusing the truth with a pathetic stand up comedians primetime punchline.
Try paying attention in the real world and maybe your clouded judgement will mature.
Digg me down if you want but everyone will still read it- deanlowe, on 10/12/2007, -9/+10The Daily Show & The Colbert Report are a lot better than any show on MSNBC, HLN, CNN or Fox.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -22/+5"And the title explains why Democrats and liberals are so dim about real world issues. They are confusing the truth with a pathetic stand up comedians primetime punchline."
But he attacks Republicans every night. That is the only reason these guys are acting like this show has any value. The moment he goes after Democrats in the same biased way, his numbers go through the floor. - macweirdo42, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Congratulations, sir, your argument has truly won me over. /sarcasm
Seriously, I find the irony that you tout your side's strengths by resorting to mocking and insulting hysterical. I don't understand how you can think you're better than someone else while using childish name-calling. - Dweller99, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Why dont you try RTFA instead of knee-jerk trolling based on the title?
Try paying attention to the content of the article and maybe your clouded judgement will mature. - katanaswordfish, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Oh no! We can only hope nobody reads your baseless and un-backed statement. 'God' forbid anyone sees it. The might be swayed to your side, which is OBVIOUSLY the 'truth', by your cunning intellect and your persuasive, educated stance.
It's not like these "real" news shows have ever fabricated ~fake~ stories in order to push certain products, or convert the weak minded moral majority to believe that shooting people in the head in the name of freedom and liberation is justifiable.
i.e.: http://freepress.net/fakenews/
All sarcasm aside though, people with half a brain in their head know that the news and television is biased and partisan. But face it, this entire country is biased and partisan. To think that Bill O'Reilly is any LESS of a 'comedian' or biased news source is just plain stupid. O'Reilly is an entertainer, face it. If he is so politically savvy and brilliant why is he just a TV personally who's sole purpose is to horde ratings by being extremely conservative, closed minded, bigoted, and rude?
The Daily Show, and Colbert Report are equally as reliable of a news source as most others. The problem is that people want to believe everything they hear on TV all the time, instead of looking at history, society, and the real problems in the world (violence, poverty, war, etc.). I'm not going to pretend like Jon Stewart isn't a comedian, and I'm not going to pretend like the Daily Show is very serious news. HOWEVER, I'm not going to pretend that ANY news source is "fair and balanced" because like all politics, its just a bunch of lying and *****, that's sole purpose is to win over votes and enslave the people.
- Kbennett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"But he attacks Republicans every night. That is the only reason these guys are acting like this show has any value. The moment he goes after Democrats in the same biased way, his numbers go through the floor." -flag
His 4th highest rated show to date was in January of '05 following the 2004 elections and featured extensive Democrat bashing, and rightly so.
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19I get all my news from the Daily Show and Digg, partially because both are relatively unbiased and contain lots of sarcasm
- WarPirate, on 10/12/2007, -20/+11Really sad. Im worried for the future of America because of people like borninda.
- Oxygen, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6"Really sad. Im worried for the future of America because of people like borninda." - WarPirate
QFT! - bbatsell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I'm pretty sure that was some very obvious sarcasm, WarPirate.
- kirkja08, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6Love it... Sarcasm is the "new black" :/ for the lib/digg/fake news crowd.
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10umm. I wasn't being sarcastic. Which part of my comment is wrong? I do consider digg unbiased because you get different perspectives on the same news from comenters. And so far, Jon hasn't lied about anything.
- kirkja08, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3The blind leading the blind... does anyone see this? Best thread i have ever seen! no sarcasm.
- goat4, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4"umm. I wasn't being sarcastic. Which part of my comment is wrong? I do consider digg unbiased because you get different perspectives on the same news from comenters. And so far, Jon hasn't lied about anything."
not when they get dugg down you dont - kirkja08, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"umm. I wasn't being sarcastic. Which part of my comment is wrong? I do consider digg unbiased because you get different perspectives on the same news from comenters. And so far, Jon hasn't lied about anything."
so maybe you get a few buried comments from people with other views, but you can't deny that the majority of stories are anti bush and what jon stewart said last night. - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6"The blind leading the blind... does anyone see this? Best thread i have ever seen! no sarcasm."
Just look how they are modding down all comments that arent Lefty Approved.
Oh how they love free speech!
As long as they approve of the content! - PixelCloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9if this was owned by fox those comments would be deleted :P
- kirkja08, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3no, fox would leave them up and knock them down for all too see. They are popular because they bring in both sides and use basic logic to debunk the lib's arguments.
- PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8free speech doesnt mean i dont have the freedom of speech to show i disagree with you by digging you down.
Seriosu dude you oviously dont understand what freespeech is.
If we banned you from digg, maybe you could complain but you are welcome to say what you want and post what you want and we are welcoeme to mod you down.
And douchebag with the video deserves to be moidded down and it has nothing to do with his views.
- Sazzle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Although its an interesting study, lets face it - the Daily Show is, at its core, an entertainment program; whereas the news is supposed to be, well... the news. So its not entirely surprising that the Daily Show was found to be equally as "substantive" as the real news - after all, it's not supposed to be on the front line of hardcore world issues like we should expect of our traditional news programs. What's sad is that our "real" news was found to be no more meaty than a Comedy Central entertainment program. That is simply a tragedy.
Long live John Stewart. At least with him we're guaranteed at least *some* impartial reporting of the issues that matter most.- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"At least with him we're guaranteed at least *some* impartial reporting of the issues that matter most."
Wow. I officially give up.
- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"At least with him we're guaranteed at least *some* impartial reporting of the issues that matter most."
- GeneralFailure0, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12...and somehow fittingly, this is only news to people who don't actually watch The Daily Show.
- LarianLeQuella, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Here at Osan AB, I watch CNN Asia, and they actually air The Daily Show as part of the CNN programming here! I do find it interesting to compare the news I see on CNN here compared to what my wife gets back stateside. Let's just say that the CNN channel is totally different outside the US, and actually has a lot more news that is actually newsworthy (instead of some of the fluffy crap you guys have to endure out of Atlanta).
- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -19/+3It's so cool to be a liberal these days. I love being ahead of the curve.
- hhOwArdrOarKk, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2Aren't you embarrassed to have voted for Bush? It's clear that you have when you make comments like these; why is anyone to trust your judgment on anything?
- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Nice assumption. /sarcasm
- moxx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The odd thing is they actually made a study about the Daily Show, yet nothing for Colbert...Heh, that must have been some fun research, well at least the part they observed the Daily show
- stark23x, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Did anyone read the article? It's as substantive as the evening news, but neither one is actually informative. I wouldn't do any victory dances just yet.
- manicdvln, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6The problem with the daily show is that when people claim that it's as good as the real news or better, I have caught Stewart being a hypocrite many times. But no one cares, because the response usually resorts to veiling the show as just being a harmless comedy.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -9/+7Thats usually the fallback line when people start to point out how obviously biased to the left the show is.
First it's a great source for news, then it's just a comedy show.
They cant make up their mind! - jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4That's the one thing I can't stand about Jon Stewart. As opposed to hosting a real news show, and being held accountable for what he says, he can always just roll his eyes and say "oh come on, it's a comedy"
- PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Flag yes the daily show and especially the colbert show are left leaning biased comedies, they do not try to portray themselves like fox, as a real news show. I am not sure you point. This article is about the fact that there is as much news content in this comedy as any other news station.
I would love to have the neos come out with their own daily show(i bet it would be popular)... But it is very hard to find a conservative comedian, sorry i dont find oreilly funny - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8flag:
I think more often people comment on how the Daily Show, despite being a comedy show, is more accurate than some of the "legitimate" news out there.
It's not a compliment for the Daily Show, it's a sad commentary on how our "news" is extremely inaccurate, biased, leaves out facts, and is generally laughed at by the outside world. - john2kx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Judging from your 10,000 replies in this article complaining about "the left this" and "the biased left", etc.... you'd think a liberal raped your mom and killed your dog or something..
I mean jesus, get over it.. Yes, the Daily Show makes fun of Republicans sometimes..
GET OVER IT.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -9/+7Thats usually the fallback line when people start to point out how obviously biased to the left the show is.
- ImTheDarkcyde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7sure it might cover the same news, but the jokes are always an obvius bias that too many people i know take to heart
- nixfu, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13
THIS IS BACKWORDS:
(should be)
"real" news is just as worthless as The Daily Show. - ByteReaper, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5I've actually used The Daily Show as a real news source many times. It's a hilarious show, but it's also surprisingly informative.
- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -10/+10That's scary. If you don't hear about everything on The Daily Show at least 12 hours before you see it there, you are painfully uninformed. People like you shouldn't be allowed to participate in the democratic process.
- PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7lol that would be 50% of the us that is painfully or blissfully uninformed.
heck 48% of the people still dont think bush lied to get us into iraq.
How much more uninformed can you get. - jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6@PowerCow
Almost as funny as the 52% of people who believe whatever Jon Stewart tells them.
- epheterson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10The difference is that with the Daily Show, it's obvious when you're being *****.
- Derferman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The Daily Show may be just as bad as "real" news, but when it comes to certain issues, the Daily Show is spot on. Their coverage of network neutrality was incredible. A short segment that explained exactly what the issue at hand was, and even a lay person could understand it.
link to segment
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pc06y7iaZ20 - Hacbarton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I find it funny to argue over whether a show is left or right, when the entire purpose of the show is to illuminate the idiocracy behind both stances (Viva la Stewart!)
- dharcha1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2so like i was watching fox news today.
it said like "Fox Facts" and under that said "Congress should do this...."
and im like..
isnt that an opinion?
fox opinion network- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3@Clbck
No, American's are not superior, universally, they just happen to live in the same country as me, so they get preference. Although America didn't just stumble into being a world power, it wasn't an accident. We're obviously a very competent group of human beings to be in the position of power we're in.
@enki25
You're putting a lot of words in my mouth and making a lot of assumptions. You assume I agree with all current politics put forth by the incumbent administration. That's entirely incorrect. You assume that I wouldn't speak out against what I believe to be injustices perpetrated by the ruling party. Again, incorrect.
You are correct, we are all interconnected. And I believe we are, in fact, at war. We're at war with Islamic Fascists who swear to kill us in the name of their God. I have no desire to harm an innocent human being, America, Iraqi or a citizen of any other nation. I will, however, if it means protecting myself, my family, my nation and my freedoms.
If you're not willing to stand up and fight against evil, in any shape or form, you don't deserve to live in America. I'm sorry if you don't have the intestinal fortitude to stomach necessary innocent casualties, but I believe the short term loss of life will justify the untold loss of life it will prevent, qed the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshimi and Nagasaki. - Clbck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2"No, American's are not superior, universally, they just happen to live in the same country as me, so they get preference."
I can sort of understand that. But a 10,000:1 ratio is way to preferential, IMO.
" Although America didn't just stumble into being a world power, it wasn't an accident. We're obviously a very competent group of human beings to be in the position of power we're in."
Correction: We WERE a group of competent human beings. I've seen very little prooving that we still are. - jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@Clbck
Sorry for the mispost, glad you caught it.
Well I'm glad you at least can understand my point of view. I don't expect everyone to share my opion - because it's just that, an opinion.
"Correction: We WERE a group of competent human beings. I've seen very little prooving that we still are."
I realize you're probably being a little sarcastic there, but I can only hope you appreciate how far ahead of most nations we are. Not to appreciate that would be very disrespectful to those countries in much poorer social and economic states than the US is currently in.
Kind of like having a Ferrari, then pulling up to a trailer park and saying "Yeah, it gets bad gas mileage, it's really a piece of junk"
:) - enki25, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@jon3k
There's a difference between wanting to protect your tribe and thinking the lives of the people in your tribe are worth more than others, especially people who aren't a threat to you (Iraqis, non-Americans).
99% of Muslims don't want to kill us, and yet you label the people we are at war with Islamic Fascists. The Timothy McVeighs of the world are just as significant a threat to our government, but we don't label them Christian Fascists.
Your problem is that you're confusing xenophobia with "intestinal fortitude". Which is, unfortunatley, exactly what our real enemies want us to do. - Clbck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1jon3k:
To keep on with your Ferrari analagy... Our ferrari needs new brakes, but we're going for an oil change instead. While our Ferarri is deteriorating, their trailers are getting better and better.
We're still doing okay, compared to other countries. But we're not doing as good as we should be, and our leadership's attitudes is not helping our standing in the world.
- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3@Clbck
- Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3All medias are statist mouthpieces.
End of story. Quit arguing if they pick the blue or red team. - SwordofKahless, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5This has got to be the most funniest thing the lefties have posted on Digg. Now the lap dogs are trying to convince everyone that thier leftist comedy show is a real news program.
Keep going guys, the election is coming up and if the Democratic party falls a part even further with this lunacy we be lucky enough to see a third party form or replace the Democratic party.- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5When you post things like this, you make yourself and the rest of the conservatives look like idiots.
Please consider how this reflects on yourself and people who share your ideals. You are not representitive of the rest of the right. You sound like a nut job. - enki25, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4uh, jon, I got news for ya, you both sound like nut jobs.
Or do you think the whole 10,000 Iraqi lives for 1 American life is a popular opinion?
- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5When you post things like this, you make yourself and the rest of the conservatives look like idiots.
- duffthereal, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1i luv when people who watch fox news, and then talk ***** bout the daily show and the colbert report and isnt their a studdy that says that most viewers r highly educated.regardless they both kick ass and take names
- macweirdo42, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Goes along great with the story about Daily Show viewers being more informed than the average American. Really, it's a sad state of affairs when people who watch a comedy show for their news know more about what's going on out there than most.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/28/comedy.politics/ - Soave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Albiet a bit biased... but what national news shows aren't these days eh?
- drjones, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Wow. There is a direct relationship between hating the Daily Show and being a humorless hateful self deluded tool. At least from the evidence presented here.
- markgl, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4what the ***** ever.
- SwordofKahless, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3@jon3k
Just because I disagree with the rabid partisan crap being spewed here on a daily basis does not mean I am conservative or representive of the right or left.
Over and over again we have people on Digg who are typically rabid in their support for their party keeping repeating the mantra that these leftist comedy shows are real news shows. Even the hosts of these shows joke about this and say were a freaking comedy show. But I am the one who is being called a nut job? LOL
I think these guys are hilarious at times but geez, this is getting ridiculous. - Moocowz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4PBS + Jim Lehrer >>> MSNBC + CNN + FOX NEWS
- systemlayers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I like the guys argueing left and right here.
There's ALWAYS bias in news and that's an unavoidable condition.
it's not right and wrong.
what you should be argueing about is the divergance and representation of more opinions.
there's more ideas than just your simple democrat and republican partys lines.
and of course the daily show qualifys as news, it's more news than any of the other major networks pump out that's for sure.- ImTheDarkcyde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3the simple fact of the matter though is if McCain ran for election, he's probably win just because a comedian told people to vote for him. You wouldn't see that kind of crap coming from a real newscaster
- AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Since when is The Daily Show a news program? I thought it was a satirical program.
Next they're going to say Weekend Update isn't substantive enough. - spider-man, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Sure it is as substantive as what the typical Digg user considers as "real" news. It has an extreme liberal spin on it. This makes pretty much matches it up with every news outlet out there aside from Fox.
- ramiro, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Weasel word of the month: "Substantive".
Example: A leftist comedy show is as substantive as the real news.
PS.: Reported as inacurate. No matter how much you freaking bastards try to spin and fool people to believe your propaganda, the Dems will still lose because they are now the Party of the Cut and Run. - rafgar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is sad....I'm thinking back to a quote from Jon Stewart a few years back. "It has come to my attention that many of you are using The Daily Show as your primary news source. DON'T DO THAT! WE MAKE STUFF UP!" Yep, there's a news show I'm gonna trust.
Then again, I don't trust any of the mainstream news media either, so I guess that makes them about even. - accordjazz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1That's great find
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