America's Drug War: The Last White Hope watch!
livevideo.com — This is a disturbing look at the failing war on drugs in America and the motives behind it. Follow a money trail that leads back to private prisons and small town racism. De-criminalization does not mean legalization! End the madness.
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- badwithcomputer, on 07/06/2008, -2/+97this is part 1/8- there was no easy way to just digg all of them at once, so please take the time watch the other parts below:
2/8: http://www.livevideo.com/media/playvideo_fs.aspx?f ...
3/8: http://www.livevideo.com/media/playvideo_fs.aspx?f ...
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8/8: http://www.livevideo.com/media/playvideo_fs.aspx?f ...- Four20, on 07/06/2008, -10/+1i think that's illegal
- Aynatix, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3in the beginning of part 5, who is talking in the phone conversations? they dont say who. just pictures of regan and the contra leader?
Phone Conversation:
"I dont like *****, they pay cash though right? Yes they pay cash."- odiego, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I believe it was Danilo Blandon.
- CosmoKramer, on 07/06/2008, -1/+75I watched the full documentary. It is truly scary to see how many non-violent drug offenders are in jail. Addicts don't need to be jailed, they need to receive help. It is absolutely illogical to send drug addicts to jail while legal addictions such as alcoholism are accepted. Americans are free to put toxins in their bodies and should not be punished for doing so.
- livefree12, on 07/06/2008, -1/+17totally agree with you. i don't see the point in jailing drug addicts either. if we jail drug addicts, why not jail alcoholics? strange double standards.
- paker, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Ask anyone "in power", it's legal.
- WhoDoneIt, on 07/07/2008, -4/+2The line is even more gray when we supply addicts with new, clean needles and a place to shoot up, paid by our friendly Canadian government.
I'm not saying I'm against these refugees, I'm just saying if it's going to be this way, level the playing field.
How can one impound and convict a pot user when you are giving a FREE place for addicts of "hard core" drugs to shoot up in a public place.- flashback99, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5thats another issue altogether and is to do with preventing AIDS spreading through people sharing needles (damage limitation). I agree it's a grey area, but comparing it to convicting pot users doesnt make sense as it's a different issue altogether.
- mal1964, on 07/07/2008, -5/+2Addicts are Addicts and Alcohol is a drug in the recovery community. All can go to jail if they committed a crime. All can go to rehab nobody care what your "drug of choice"[doc] is, Also most addicts are "cross-addicted" to both alcohol and prescription or illegal drugs. You may see the drinking, but not the drug use.
http://www.hazelden.org/web/public/whatcanisay.pag ...
PS, Many Judges will drop jail time if the offender agrees to go to rehab. - ZenMojo, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1But how many of them SUPPORT this crap? How many of them see drug users as criminal instead of sick? How many of them support the double-standard of alcoholism versus cocaine abuse?
- livefree12, on 07/06/2008, -1/+17totally agree with you. i don't see the point in jailing drug addicts either. if we jail drug addicts, why not jail alcoholics? strange double standards.
- HotGore, on 07/06/2008, -1/+49If the American people understood how much crap their gov't has done they would revolt.
- speakafreaka, on 07/07/2008, -1/+21I think they understand, its just apathy and a sense that one person cant make a difference that has been instilled in all western cultures.
Or they just dont care.
Buy this.. it will make you happy. - CTK14A, on 07/07/2008, -1/+12We understand. We're complicit. The drug 'war' is society's way of sweeping issues of poverty/racial tension/social justice under the rug.
Cognitive dissonance is a beaut, ain't it? - zombie210, on 07/07/2008, -1/+8No, they won't revolt, the passion has gone out of American society and people. They are apathetic and afraid and what jefferson said has come to pass. I hope I am wrong.
- speakafreaka, on 07/07/2008, -1/+21I think they understand, its just apathy and a sense that one person cant make a difference that has been instilled in all western cultures.
- GuacamoleSan, on 07/06/2008, -1/+34The part about the privatized prisons and their profiting from forced labor was sickening. These people are being assaulted constantly by their very government.
- bigp3rm, on 07/06/2008, -0/+26I was in Joes tent city for DUI. They didn't say this but his family controls all of the concessions for his jails. So they make money on everything the inmates purchase such as food, radios and other goods. And they are marked up by a HUGE margin.
- Rotzooi, on 07/06/2008, -13/+11I ***** hate drunk drivers.
- flashback99, on 07/07/2008, -7/+1drunk drivers shouldnt get the right to complain about high prices.
- NCg8r, on 07/07/2008, -0/+7You're shooting the messenger, idiots. Big Joe is as crooked as anyone in his jail, yet the country felates him because he serves sub-standard meats to his prisoners and reaps a profit from the whole goat rodeo. The guy is a blight on our society and he's not one bit interested in Justice. The only thing that disgusts me more than his actions is how America can't wait to pat him on the back for basically being Boss Hogg of Hazard County fame...
- btschul, on 07/06/2008, -6/+58Ron Paul supports the ending of the war on drugs.
- kemp34, on 07/06/2008, -1/+21If only more politicians would wake up and quit being little pussies to the status quo.
- AchaIemoipas, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5If only people elected those politicians...
- paker, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6It's not they're being "little pussies" they use "the drug war" as an election tool. This drug war policy helps them get votes from the Moral Majority voters.
- hellahyphy, on 07/07/2008, -5/+1unrealistic.
- btschul, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2You're unrealistic.
- Andrwmorph, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1Too bad he has no chance of winning in today's political climate.
- btschul, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3If you would shut the ***** up with that "no chance of winning *****" and get out there and spread the word and vote for him, he would have a chance of winning.
- Andrwmorph, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I would never vote for Ron Paul as I disagree with his position on most issues.
- kemp34, on 07/06/2008, -1/+21If only more politicians would wake up and quit being little pussies to the status quo.
- jester55, on 07/06/2008, -6/+31dugg for Ron Paul :)
- masterm1nd, on 07/07/2008, -2/+49 diggs 1 bury. Did people forget the RP spam? Or was it dwarfed by the BO spam?
- ATLien74, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Dugg for B.O.
LOL Never thought of that being his initials.
- ATLien74, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Dugg for B.O.
- masterm1nd, on 07/07/2008, -2/+49 diggs 1 bury. Did people forget the RP spam? Or was it dwarfed by the BO spam?
- danomagnum, on 07/07/2008, -18/+2The thing is the people who make these documentaries aren't anti-drug war, they are pro-drugs
- kayala, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5What's wrong with that?
- caliberof22, on 07/07/2008, -0/+10Did you not see the part in part one about the distinction between decriminalization and legalization? Watch again.
- trueenuff, on 07/07/2008, -0/+8Watch it all! Wow.
- CorneliusStump, on 07/07/2008, -10/+1white ppl are the devil
- welliwonder, on 07/07/2008, -1/+9Pretty disgusting. A lot of illegal drugs are fine if used responsibly, carefully, ect ect ect ect.. and yes some are no good in any situation.
- RRJackson, on 07/07/2008, -1/+21We rent prison labor out to American corporations inexpensively. Drug laws are a great way to assemble an involuntary labor force. We used to call it, "Slavery." This works well, too. And even though we incarcerate a disproportionate percentage of black offenders, we're starting to ramp up our rates with Hispanics, too. It's just that Hispanic labor is so cheap already it's not really all that worthwhile.
- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -13/+2How about this: If you don't want to go to jail, don't sell or buy drugs. Simple isn't it?
- RRJackson, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8Works for me. And it's not like a white guy with money can't get high. Go pay a psychiatrist a couple of hundred dollars and get a prescription for medical marijuana. Or if you live someplace where that's impossible take a vacation to Amsterdam once in a while. This is about getting poor thugs off the street and into forced labor.
- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -12/+2And what is exactly is wrong with getting poor thugs off the streets? God forbid we punish people for selling drugs that destroy lives. I am dirt poor but I don't have to resort to selling drugs.
- RRJackson, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4Who said there was anything wrong with putting thugs in prison?
- gregfadein, on 07/07/2008, -1/+13How about this: If you don't want to go to jail, don't watch TV or read the internet. Simple, isn't it?
Oh, wait, you only care about freedom as long as everyone is free to do the things that YOU want to do. - phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -12/+2Right.... Comparing the internet and television to using illegal drugs. I love Digg :)
- chewbie, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5I find it retarded how you provide us with legal workarounds and alternatives that we can use to get around the law. The mere fact that you need to trick the system to get what you want is pointing towards a faulty system
- johndi, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6The sad thing is that slavery is still constitutional if it is a "punishment for crime." The 13th amendment didn't go far enough. We need to abolish all slavery.
- RRJackson, on 07/07/2008, -5/+1Face it, a huge percentage of humans are throwaways, independent of race. Having nice big cracks they can fall through and a net of indentured servitude to catch them works out pretty well. Now if we could just sterilize them as part of the booking process.
- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -13/+2How about this: If you don't want to go to jail, don't sell or buy drugs. Simple isn't it?
- jake1986, on 07/07/2008, -8/+2I'm tired of these ***** quality probably bootlegged videos.
- AgmLauncher, on 07/07/2008, -9/+5I'm tired of slanted/biased movies with political agendas.
- Diderotten, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1This is the first time I've heard of it and I'm looking forward to adding it to my DVD collection.
- VaporBro, on 07/07/2008, -2/+37As an official Digg.com Economic Professor I would like to state that the fastest, happiest, and hippiest way out of a recession is to Legalize Marijuana. That's right US, you can make TONS of money by legalizing this happy little plant.
* Each year, the US government throws away more than $30 billion dollars on the drug war (This year so far, ie Right Now, is over 25 billion dollars down the drain).
* The US Government arrests more than one and a half million people on drug-related charges (In fact; An American is now arrested for violating cannabis laws every 38 seconds).
* Police arrested an estimated 829,625 persons for cannabis violations in 2006, the highest annual total ever recorded in the United States, according to statistics compiled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
* More than 350,000 people are now behind bars in the U.S. for drug violations. This is more than the total number of people incarcerated for all crimes in the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined.
Now then If you legalized Marijuana and sold it like Washington State's Liquor is sold (In State Controlled and Taxed Liquor Stores), You could:
* Eliminate the $30 Billion spent on trying to police Marijuana, including the extra 30 billion spent by Local and State Government; for a total of $60 Billion per Year.
* Sell it to only people that are over 21 years of age (Remember; drug dealers don't ask for your ID. This is why Marijuana is easier kids to get then in Alcohol).
* You could grow (Very easy), sell, and tax the Marijuana (Allowing a GIANT revenue to flow in that could fund Road construction, School revamps, and harder drug rehabilitation programs).
* Free up our law enforcement to actually fight real crime that plagues the US (Instead of spending the time and resources on seeking out nonviolent offenders for a victimless crime).
Here in Seattle we have Iinitiative 75 which makes Marijuana use by adults the lowest police priority.
I. I-75 was implemented and following its implementation there were reductions both in the number of Seattle Police Department marijuana incident referrals and in the number of Seattle City Attorney filings of marijuana charges, although it is impossible to say whether these reductions were the result of I-75;
II. There is no evidence of any adverse effect of the implementation of I-75, including specifically
1. no evident increase in marijuana use among youth and young adults:
2. no evident increase in crime; and
3. no adverse impact on public health.
I believe only 30 people were arrested in Seattle for Marijuana. Not bad for a Metropolitan city...
As a Digg.com Economic Professor, I didn't wanna let you down.
Legalize it and I will advertise it baby.- hugolp, on 07/07/2008, -2/+4But then the people who is making money by selling marijuana right now, would have to go legal, and that would mean accepting competition from other providers, cutting profit margins, having to go through sanitary control, paying the goverment, etc... Its a lot better for them if it keeps being ilegal and thats why they are pushing the goverment to keep it ilegal.
- sodade, on 07/07/2008, -2/+2The people who are making money selling cannabis today have zero influence on our government.
- NCg8r, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1The people who make money are the LEOs who get to keep your land and everything on it when they bust you for selling an oz of stress to your neighbor's dad.
- RRJackson, on 07/07/2008, -4/+5Uh, Mr. Economics Professor. /raises hand
How about the two billion workers in India, the former Soviet Union and China who've started farming out their dirt-cheap services since the end of the Cold War? What kind of impact has that had on the American economy? And all those jobs that companies like Microsoft, Starbucks, Dell and Victoria's Secret are using prison labor to take care of right now would be heading overseas if we weren't arresting a million people a year on drug charges and putting them to work. That $30 billion a year seems like chicken feed next to all the profit for American corporations those prison laborers are generating. It's about forced labor, not public health. The private prison systems of America c. 2008 are the cotton plantations of America c. 1808. Let freedom ring, baby. Well, not for people of color or even poor white people, but let's not quibble over the details. Some of us are free. And we like our Venti black tea lemonade with three Splendas on the drive in to town.- ATLien74, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1Starbucks is closing over 600 locations and Microsoft is certainly losing market share to Apple and Linux. Yeah, sure seems to be helping.
You are right about one thing, 30 billion is chicken feed...but only compared to the massive amount of tax money that would be rolling in if marijuana was legalized. Even if people were allowed to grow their own, not everybody would go through the trouble to do it when they could just go to the package store and by a pack of joints. People are free to brew their own beer, which is not that difficult, but they still buy Budweiser by the case because it's so much more convenient. - RRJackson, on 07/07/2008, -2/+2If you're that desperate to get high and you have a few bucks you can get a prescription for medical marijuana or you can just fly to Amsterdam for the weekend. Don't go sabotaging a system that incarcerates all the people I don't want to run into on the street. Poor people enjoy being in cages, anyway. Listen to some rap lyrics.
BTW, the market share Apple and Linux are taking away from Microsoft has whittled them down to only 90% of the market. Heh...nice try, though.
- ATLien74, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1Starbucks is closing over 600 locations and Microsoft is certainly losing market share to Apple and Linux. Yeah, sure seems to be helping.
- chewbie, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1http://digg.com/general_sciences/Grow_more_pot_2
- hugolp, on 07/07/2008, -2/+4But then the people who is making money by selling marijuana right now, would have to go legal, and that would mean accepting competition from other providers, cutting profit margins, having to go through sanitary control, paying the goverment, etc... Its a lot better for them if it keeps being ilegal and thats why they are pushing the goverment to keep it ilegal.
- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -15/+6I live in a pretty drug infested neighborhood and I have to say, honestly, I don't have any sympathy for people who sell drugs and end up in prison. I'm far from being a die-hard conservative, but the first time you hear about a kid getting killed by a stray bullet you'll lose all sympathy for the "victims" who are sent to prison to rot as they should.
Who's to say legalizing drugs will help solve the violence that comes with them?
And by the way, Diggers are always complaining about how ignorant and gullible the American people are; imagine if all these drugs were made legal. Who would give two ***** about habeas corpus when you can get free coke at your local corner store? Again, i'm not saying that our criminal justice system is perfect, just think of the alternative.- bsonline, on 07/07/2008, -2/+13First, I have to hand it to you. On the surface, you sound kind of logical. I bet most of your personality rests right there on the surface. What's the word for that?
Seriously, though, I am not here to call you superficial. I'm sure it is quite likely the scarey people in your neighborhood will simply find something else to peddle. If alcohol were illegal, I'm sure they would sell that. However, that prohibition is over.
First, you have to stop generalizing. We're talking about pot - I'm sure that isn't the biggest cash crop of the violent criminals you live near. Actually, there is less violence surrounding pot than any other drug. The only real problems you run into is the simple fact that it is unregulated as long as it is illegal.
Second, what do you get for free at the corner store now? What is the basis for your prediction that with legal weed people will start giving away coke?
Never assume, there is always more to the story than the self-righteous - or anyone for that matter - disclose.- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -10/+3Yeah, no one has ever gotten shot over marijuana before. I'm pretty sure the video mentions more than just marijuana and, I obviously went overboard with the free coke thing, but the point is that you can't look at people who sell and do drugs as victims. People always have a choice, if you don't want to go prison don't distribute or consume illegal drugs.
Look I get it people want to get high, just like people want to smoke cigarettes and get ***** every now and then. because let's face it life sucks. But the solution is not to legalize them or as the euphemism says "decriminalize" them. That'll just result in more people wanting to try it and get hooked on them simply because they
can.
The "i'm poor it's not my fault" doesn't ***** work. I'm poor and I work my ass off in school and a part-time job to get out of this state. How many people would agree if I just sold or did drugs all day because I was born with nothing.
tsk..... - phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -6/+3BTW, I dugg your comment up because I think this is a conversation that needs to happen. I've come to realize this whole digging down is kind of childish. If you've got a different opinion that's fine with me.
- Kanele, on 07/07/2008, -0/+9"That'll just result in more people wanting to try it and get hooked on them simply because they
can."
It's happening anyway, since the beginning of War on drugs, more and more people get hooked. Also, places where one can get marijuana legally do not show increase in the use, just decrease in the enforcement statistics.
"Who's to say legalizing drugs will help solve the violence that comes with them?"
Well I do, and so does LEAP, NORML, etc... The violence that comes with drugs is mainly due to the prohibition. There is violence in countries where selling weapons is illegal, yet no problems in US, because it's controlled. The prohibition is the root of black markets and violence.
As for the digging up comment, i fully agree, hence i digg up :) - bone625, on 07/07/2008, -0/+7How WOULDN"T legalizing drugs solve/alleviate some of the violence surrounding drug use and sales? Lets narrow it down for a minute - we're talking strictly about pot here.
The government legalizes pot, and taxes the ***** out of it. In doing so, they could still allow sales to be far less than what it goes for on the street - you really think it costs 10-20 bucks a gram to grow weed? No. They provide it cheaper, and safer than dealers - so they go out of business. Why go to the shady back alley to buy your drugs when you can get it at the liquor store on the corner for cheaper than they can? Of course, they're not going to allow anyone to sell weed - they don't even do that with cigarettes/alcohol. Why would someone fight/shoot over something they can get and use without worry?
Oh, and then we save money. Lots and lots of money. EVERYONE saves money, in one way or another. We don't have to PAY to keep drugs off the street- drugs pay us to stay on the street (in a good way). You know how much the govt could get from taxing weed?
Also, pot is not physically addictive at all. And I can guarantee you 99% of the population that wanted to try pot, could almost as easily illegally as they could legally.
Finally, you wouldn't have to WORRY about people selling pot and going to jail and costing the state tens of thousands of dollars. They couldn't do it cheaper than the govt, so why try. The users? They stay at home, happy and stoned, and maybe with lighter wallets. - dagnome1984, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3The reason why people are dieing over drugs from guns shots is because of idiots like yourself. When you criminalize a substance the criminal element starts distributing it rather than legitimate business. If you really cared about people dieing for no good reason than you would be against the stupid war. When we made alcohol illegal people started dieing in the streets from thugs with guns. What right do you have anyways to dictate what another does with their own ***** body? You don't little Hitler. Now take your swastika and beat it.
- bsonline, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2My friend, I think the key you are missing is simply choice. Because of prohibition, you are being limited in your options - more drug dealers are around BECAUSE of that oppurtunity.
As for the "consumer" - many people believe very strongly that it should be legal, for many different reasons. I smoke pot - but most pot smokers wouldn't really consider me to be a pot smoker. Why? I smoke about a quater ounce per year. Not all at once... just every once in a while, a bowl or a joint.
As Americans, the majority have chosen marijuana to be legal both as a home grown plant and even as a cash crop for many small and large businesses. Our voice, the majority, is being overruled by the more vocal minority because of the stigmas present on weed.
You don't seem like a bad guy. The reason you have so many people responding to you is because the things you truly believe are what reinforce the prohibition. That, and the "fact" that weed makes you crazy and is hella addictive.
Think about all that myself and others are saying here. All of this typing is worth it if one person looks at the real causes of problems, and drops the stigma.
*This message brought to you by weed for everyone, an organization fighting daily to end the prohibition of the modern day. An organization I just made up.
- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -10/+3Yeah, no one has ever gotten shot over marijuana before. I'm pretty sure the video mentions more than just marijuana and, I obviously went overboard with the free coke thing, but the point is that you can't look at people who sell and do drugs as victims. People always have a choice, if you don't want to go prison don't distribute or consume illegal drugs.
- teinstein, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4Drugs including tobacco and alcohol will always be huge public health problems. But prohibition only makes things worse. Our criminal justice system is not perfect, but we can't expect it to solve our social ills by encouraging drug users to victimize not only themselves, but everyone around them as well.
- gregfadein, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8"Who's to say legalizing drugs will help solve the violence that comes with them?"
When's the last time you almost got shot in a Starbucks? Have you ever been caught up in a Coors/Anheuser-Busch turf war? Been busted by the police for asthma medication?
Oh, right, when things are legal, issues can be resolved civilly in courts and arbitration, rather than violence.
"Who would give two ***** about habeas corpus when you can get free coke at your local corner store?"
Wait... so you're reasoning for massive government control is... to keep people angry enough to prevent massive government control?
Wow. You're dumb as *****.- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -5/+3I find it funny that you have to insult my intelligence in order to make your point. Whatever the ***** your point is!
"Wait... so you're reasoning for massive government control is... to keep people angry enough to prevent massive government control?"
Oh that's right, by making drugs illegal the government is controlling the masses. By that reasoning outlawing anything can be labeled as "massive government control." - gregfadein, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5I didn't insult your intelligence in order to make my point.
I made my point, then I insulted your intelligence. Subtle difference.
"By that reasoning outlawing anything can be labeled as 'massive government control.'"
No, only things that the government does could be labeled that way. - phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -6/+2Your point being?
Nah nevermind, don't answer that you'll just continue to compare apples and oranges and then call me an idiot to make yourself look smart.
boo!
- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -5/+3I find it funny that you have to insult my intelligence in order to make your point. Whatever the ***** your point is!
- bsonline, on 07/07/2008, -2/+13First, I have to hand it to you. On the surface, you sound kind of logical. I bet most of your personality rests right there on the surface. What's the word for that?
- TexasMd91, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1I was listening to this while gaming and all of a sudden at around a minute until the end I heard my home town, Texarkana. Its hard to believe anything would happen here.
- ATLien74, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2The folks are thirsty in Atlanta, and they got beer in Texarkana, and we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.
- BlackJacket, on 07/07/2008, -1/+38The real nonsense is that Bob can smoke a joint with his friends, have a few laughs and sleep it off. Steve can get drunk, get angry, and after failing to pick a fight with strangers, finish out the night punches the people that were his friends hours earlier.
A week later, and both sober, Steve can fall off a ladder at work and land on Bob. Both go to hospital, get drug tested, and Steve gets workers comp while Bob gets fired.
Its not justification for either behavior, its just the truth. - racco, on 07/07/2008, -0/+6logic is lost.
corruption wins out - tikited, on 07/07/2008, -3/+1.
- mithrasinvictus, on 07/07/2008, -1/+26 First they put away the dealers,
keep our kids safe and off the street.
Then they put away the prostitutes,
keep married men cloistered at home.
Then they shooed away the bums,
then they beat and bashed the queers,
turned away asylum-seekers,
fed us suspicions and fears.
We didn't raise our voice,
we didn't make a fuss.
It's funny there was no one left to notice
when they came for us.
NoFx- RomanThommassen, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3nofx is one of the greatest bands ever, fat mike is a great writer!
- Grym11, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
The real (and better) version of that is a poem about the Holocaust:
"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
- Grym11, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
- fyngyrz, on 07/07/2008, -1/+8Great writer? Please. The sentiment is fine, but the thinking isn't exactly original. Those lyrics are a straight-up mod of Pastor Martin Niemöller's words:
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.- RomanThommassen, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3he has more songs ;)
- mithrasinvictus, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3The song was inspired by the poem.
Its a great poem and its a great song. - fyngyrz, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1mithrasinvictus - I didn't say otherwise. I simply disagreed with the sentiment that fat mike is a great writer, and pointed out who actually did the thinking in this case.
- flashback99, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5this is what every neocon wants. to shut out reality and create a fruitopia.
the cake is a lie.
- RomanThommassen, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3nofx is one of the greatest bands ever, fat mike is a great writer!
- tikited, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6the reason is legal drug companies were losing money from illgeal drugs.
- Ledjar, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6the police chef in AZ is ***** brutal on this video.
- sencity, on 07/07/2008, -0/+13Marijuana should be put in the same category as alcohol. available to adults, but if a person screws up while intoxicated by it they should be liable for their mistake.
Also the "war" on drugs can't be won because its a war against human nature. people will always want to alter their mood for recreational purposes. - phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -9/+2Recap of Video: ***** the government, ***** the sideffects of drugs, I want to get high, how dare u get in my way....
- govsucks, on 07/07/2008, -0/+7don't care much for freedom do you phillykid?
- iamafatguy, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4Recap of post: ***** reality, ***** science, ***** statistics, ***** the facts, drugs are bad, mmkay, how dare you get in my way.
- Idiggapony, on 07/07/2008, -2/+5Let the truth be heard! Both drugs and the so-called “war on drugs” were invented by the same racist hegemony for one purpose: the continued enslavement and murder of persons of color.
Most people do not realize that the first scientist to carmelize heroin in the laboratory was Timothy Leary, a Harvard Ph.D. and former West Pointer who conveniently left the U.S. Army to pursue advanced research in organic chemistry, supported by an “educational” grant from (guess who) the CIA. Why would the Army and the CIA want to invent heroin? Hint: to kill black people at home, and purport American meritocracy upon the developing nations of the world.
While today's cookie-cutter Republocrats quibble about who will devote more resources to the war on drugs, Ron Paul realizes that the opposite strategy is the constitutional one, and that taking one crack dealer off the street and putting him in a privately-run Federal Prison is equivalent to sending ten crackheads to a forced labor camp for the rest of their lives. And only Ron Paul is prepared to put a stop to this racist heresy.
Are you?- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -3/+2Just don't do the damn drugs! Kill off the supply and the violence by killing off the demand. I guess people will just go to any lengths to excuse their laziness and ignorance and lack of will. Whatever the ***** happened to individual responsibility?
If no one bought drugs no one would sell them hence, no one would get arrested for selling/buying them.
*sigh* this is a lost cause- sodade, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3"*sigh* this is a lost cause"
You finally realize that? About time. Imagine if the government reinstated alcohol prohibition. Would you still be quacking like a duck: "don't do the crime if you can't take the punishment?"
- sodade, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3"*sigh* this is a lost cause"
- VAXcat, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2 You're full of *****. Heroin was invented in the UK in the 1800s, by C. R. Alder Wright. Nothing much came of it until later, when Bayer in Germany rediscovered it...and marketed it as a non addictive alternative to morphine. This was many decades before Leary came along.
- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -3/+2Just don't do the damn drugs! Kill off the supply and the violence by killing off the demand. I guess people will just go to any lengths to excuse their laziness and ignorance and lack of will. Whatever the ***** happened to individual responsibility?
- CountSpookula, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4Okay this documentary is no better than the CIA. Look in part 4/8 when the CIA director is taking with the crowd. when the officer who was offered jobs in the CIA gets the mic, the video cuts midsentence and starts in the middle of another sentence he was saying, making it appear as if he said something he didn't. Later in the same video there's split second flashes that say "OLIVER NORTH FINANCES CIA DRUG OPERATIONS". I had to go rewind it and watch it again while constantly clicking pause to land on the text. That's flat out subliminal messaging. What the hell? The documentary fights for a perfectly good cause but it uses dirty tricks like editing and subliminal messages. Why did the director stoop that low? Completely ruined the credibility of the documentary. It's tragic.
- wonderbriefs, on 07/07/2008, -4/+3From part 3/8
Quotes from the naked guy on PCP just after trying to put ice up his butt:
"Your mommas will call your daddies when they call my daddy, opress him a million times and color me, Momma black or white, color them blind. Money will eat money."
"Church will pimp a whore backwards."
"Kids kill eggs on drugs."
"Pop a firecracker - crackers"
"Grannies Jeezies easy. Clean up my mommas whores, tomorrow."
"Chinese with Gods or Devils with Jesuses."
"Your momma said titties gotta squeeze themselves."
"Momma said I'm scared to watch my back. I got beat too much."
"Some girls pray for God. You're welcome for five minutes. Ears and titties.''
Expand your minds kids, expand your minds.- ATLien74, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Kids kill eggs on drugs! LOL That's going on a T-shirt.
- dshey, on 07/07/2008, -0/+13Our government has been ran by a bunch of 'good ole' boys that have used our system for their own pocket books. They're doing it right now with the war. They've been doing it for 30 years with drugs. It seems all of us on Digg know this. Why can't the rest of our nation figure it out?
***** it, I'm smoking. - theclaw1, on 07/07/2008, -4/+1I do agree with the idea itself that drugs shouldn't be used for non-medical purposes.
But this is completely the WRONG way to go about it! It's costing billions in tax dollars, putting non-violent offenders in already overcrowded prisons, and so on. - CuriousJohnson, on 07/07/2008, -0/+8http://digg.com/health/U_S_Government_Patents_Mari ...
Digg this article.
U.S. government has patent on cannabis. - ZodiacKiller, on 07/07/2008, -1/+17The government dictates what substances your allowed to put in YOUR OWN BODY, but you live in a "free" country...
Such *****.
"But drugs are bad for you!"
Oh yeah? Then why aren't the CEO's for Phillip Morris, McDonald's and Anheuser-Busch behind bars, if we're so concerned with things that are "bad" for us?- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -4/+1Yes, because three wrongs make a right!
- marc123, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3please digg this article on chavez (from today's Independent) it explains why he has been protrayed as someone involved in the drug trade (among other lies) for political reasons (oil): http://digg.com/political_opinion/The_truth_about_ ...
- saqer, on 07/07/2008, -7/+1If there weren't narcotic traffickers and abusers there would be no ***** war to begin with. Who started it all? You diggers are sensationalists. This documentary distracts from the issue and focuses on other "legal" drugs.
It all goes back to morals people were/weren't raised with. Unfortunately, many of this country's residents contain to moral fiber. And, although it sounds cliche that's what it goes back to. This country promotes hedonism. The lifestyles we indulge ourselves in all point to one thing...how to feel happy.
Once that underlying problem is solved, the 'war on drugs' will cease to exist, cuz people won't have to use and abuse substances to feel satisfied or happy.
documentary buried for poor approach on the real issues- aidave, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2"Once that underlying problem is solved"
What solution are you proposing? - lpferris, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2It's not about morality, it's about addiction. It's a legitimate medical condition, and is being handled poorly on purpose by the powers that be for their own personal gain. People don't have to "use and abuse substances to feel satisfied or happy." They need to use and abuse substances because their bodies are physically dependent upon those substances to survive. That's why locking people up doesn't help anyone except the holders of the keys.
- aidave, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2"Once that underlying problem is solved"
- Joab, on 07/07/2008, -2/+2Did anyone else laugh when he said he didn't know what 420 was. lol lawlz
- baldwin90, on 07/07/2008, -3/+4GREAT, GREAT, GREAT MOVIE!
- Kvasaari, on 07/07/2008, -10/+1Buried for Ron Paul.
- Murrabbit, on 07/07/2008, -1/+8Legalize and decriminalize, it's the only way to deal with the problem. Look at Holland, you think anyone's shooting anyone else over marijuana in Holland? I'm in Phoenix Arizona and you've got houses, even in nice suburbs where gang shoot outs take place just because with the real-estate crash drug dealing gangs can afford to rent houses and use them as warehouses or distribution points.
Our drug policy is madness, we've taken a medical and social issue and turned it into a criminal issue. We're only making the problem worse. - Diderotten, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3The best documentary I have seen in years. Forwarding it to everyone I know. Donald Rumsfeld, The Bushes, and everybody in the administrations leading back to Nixon, are the world's greatest monsters.
- etx313, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2From the people that brought you "Ninja Bachelor Party"!!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0277187/ - BotchaMcCoola, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Look, we are simply not as smart as the Dutch. So we just have to suffer the fate of the retarded like down through history.
- CHANNELOCK, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Marijuana can be grown for free on a patio or backyard,the American Government couldnt allow something so unregulated and tax free to be grown.
I believe its a about control- NCg8r, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Money. They keep your shiz when you get arrested with drugs. Any idea how much a house and a plot of land goes for these days??? Pure profit. They (LEOs) make more than the dealers on drugs.
- CHANNELOCK, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0Its Taxation..kinda
- DesdinovaEL, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3I'm high right now. Who's gonna do something about that?
- mHtt, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1The manipulative agenda which fuels the privatized penal system in the US is quite heinous.
Here is a system which gouges the public for it's profit margins. So long as there is criminals, the penal system makes money.
This creates an interest who is actually making money from an increasingly dangerous and unjust society. - mHtt, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2mmm also, check this out:
Canadian Senate's 2001 report on Marijuana.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/Committee_SenRep.asp? ...
Some highlights:
- Cannabis alone, particularly in low doses, has little effect on the skills involved in automobile driving.
-Cannabis leads to a more cautious style of driving.
As may be seen, the drug issue cannot simply be raised in terms of criminalization or decriminalization because it refers to much deeper societal issues relating to the role of government of the self in a context in which political government of the community is changing, and to the relationship between the two. Reducing the drug issue to a question of more or less repressive or more or less liberal criminal legislation is to rule out broader questions and to play the game of the particular interests of institutions which have every interest in reducing the figure of the addict to that of the “other”, the deviant, the pathological case, and drugs to mere illegal drugs, whereas the faces of drugs are many and diverse. - republicker, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2These fascists will get their day in front of the firing quad..
- Kaminky, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Part 7/8
What video is shown in the last 26 seconds? - cizzop, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Im trying to get this onto my ipod so i can watch it later. Seems like downloading videos from livevideo.com is nearly impossible.... any suggestions or a mirror??
- sndream, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Ok, the conspiracy theory is getting way out of hands. Bin Laden getting rich by becoming drug lords? Does ppl have any idea how rich his family is?
- diespectra, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7469194.stm
- ps3udonym, on 07/07/2008, -3/+0Burried for dumb ass browser resize on open.
When will these fu_cks ever learn. Reminds me of Digg! For someone suposedly so smart in math, Rose and co should remember that when you resitrict characters in passwords, it makes it HUNDREDS of times easier to hack (please see Enigma for a full explination.. it has only been what.. 60 years that we have known this!!). Smart people can be such fu_cking morons. *sigh* - kd1s, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I note that enforcement with regard to weed is pretty much nullified in my city. Walk through the main bus terminal for the state at 3PM and you smell weed like crazy, yet there are cops everywhere.
I also know many cops who smoke weed. I think the war on drugs has been lost, the police are tired of doing the same thing over and over yet never stemming the flow of drugs into their areas. -
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