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Breaking: Feds Seize Rocket Launcher In N.J.
wcbstv.com — Sources tell CBS 2 ’s Scott Weinberger that it’s the kind of missile that can take down an aircraft and the area where the launcher was discovered is in or very near a flight path for Newark Liberty International Airport.
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- Equalizer, on 10/11/2007, -47/+38NO big deal, I'm sure Bush and Cheney put this on their lawn to advance our hatred of muslims
/sarc
/moonbatism
I need a shower after typing that!- demicritter, on 10/11/2007, -16/+15Those darn jokers. To think that Muslim terrorists are bad guys..Haha
- cutesegirl, on 10/11/2007, -7/+3The Feds probably planted it there to use more scare and fear tactics into the American public and keep republicans in power
- Charlotte_Web, on 10/11/2007, -2/+42There's a perfectly logical explanation for this...
The lawn care guy probably left it there to take care of that pesky gopher.- ChronicColonic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Great minds Charlotte, great minds. I typed a similar comment further down... :)
- DanThePainter, on 10/11/2007, -17/+12And Cheney is going to be President this Saturday.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/07/20/cheney-to-become-presidentbriefly/
Doomed, we are doomed!! /sarcasm/moonbat.off - NoStoppingUs, on 10/11/2007, -20/+25naturally, its all bushs fault. you see, had he never decided to go after these guys, they would only try to attack us every few years! dont you understand that if we stop going after these guys, they'll stop going after us? IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!!11!111!!!
TERRORISM ISNT REAL. DONT BELIEVE THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA!!!!11!1!1!!1!!!!!!!!1!1!!!!11!11!!!!!1
/sarcasm- geometry, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4What do you mean these guys? And what terrorists are leaving rocket launchers on lawns? If these are the terrorists we're fighting we must be real idiots if we can't find people who hide their weapons in open site.
- jsmith39, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3LMAO, an expended missile cartridge as proof of terrorism? 1/2 my friends growing up had the exact same thing in their bedrooms, I think they cost like $50 at the local Army/Navy store. It's not reusable so once you pull the pretty trigger.... it's just a prop for kids to play with.
- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5You, sir, are full of *****. You cannot walk into a Army store and have them sell you used rocket launchers for fifty dollars.
- bluto36, on 10/11/2007, -9/+11i question the timing!
- TheEditor1, on 10/11/2007, -9/+6Truly, I question your intellect.
- jsmith39, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Yeah... my first thought too. Between this and the Patriot missile they 'happened' to 'find' in a junk yard this morning. You know, the day before Cheney becomes acting President.
- Shiftgood, on 10/11/2007, -9/+5I dont get it... because liberals want to pull out if iraq, it means liberals dont want to fight terrorism on an effective level (ie. police, cia, fbi, special ops)? I think the republicans are confused people.
- t1andonlywall, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2These people aren't Muslim. They have Hindu names.
- JohnReb, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6No one has claimed that the lady whose lawn this was found on had anything to do with it. In fact, she's the one who called the cops.
Try to keep up.- RyGuyX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"NO big deal, I'm sure Bush and Cheney put this on their lawn to advance our hatred of muslims"
that guy implied it
- RyGuyX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"NO big deal, I'm sure Bush and Cheney put this on their lawn to advance our hatred of muslims"
- JohnReb, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6No one has claimed that the lady whose lawn this was found on had anything to do with it. In fact, she's the one who called the cops.
- demicritter, on 10/11/2007, -16/+15Those darn jokers. To think that Muslim terrorists are bad guys..Haha
- dandan111, on 10/11/2007, -16/+6very interesting.....
- nihil, on 10/11/2007, -50/+44Its okay, liberals. Nothing to see here. There's a convenient barrel of sand over there to hide your head in.
- nblsavage, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12You're right - I doubt it's more than someone's old surplus hardware - those things can only be fired once.
- g3buz, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17FBI spokesman Sean Quinn said the launcher found by a homeowner in front of her house was essentially an empty tube.
"There was no threat," he said.
You can go back to being a tool nihl, nothing to see here.- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2That's like finding expended shotgun shells on the floor and saying "well these can't kill me". That's true, but it generally means someone was firing a shotgun. It's usually a good thing to find out who was shooting the shotgun. Proactive rather than reactive reasoning.
- nblsavage, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3these things can be had at any military surplus store. It was probably fired by our own military ages ago.
- miriclaire, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It probably belongs in a museum.
- nblsavage, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3these things can be had at any military surplus store. It was probably fired by our own military ages ago.
- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2That's like finding expended shotgun shells on the floor and saying "well these can't kill me". That's true, but it generally means someone was firing a shotgun. It's usually a good thing to find out who was shooting the shotgun. Proactive rather than reactive reasoning.
- coheedcollapse, on 10/11/2007, -7/+6What the hell is that supposed to mean? When it takes an old lady finding a rocket launcher in her lawn for our government to "discover" a weapon that could potentially knock a plane out of the air even with this sophisticated and invasive investigation chain, I think the conservatives have a problem - not the other way around.
The woman looked a bit ethnic...I wonder if some racist ***** dropped it on her lawn to get homeland security on her ass or something.- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Dude, it's an anti-tank round, they are guided, but very little. You are not going ot hit a 300mph jet w/ that thing.
- ScottMaximus1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1double post
- ScottMaximus1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It's difficult to hit a 4 ton tank travelling at 45Km/h with that, much less a consumer jet.
- jsmith39, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3LMAO, let me help you on your quest. Google a local army/navy store, drive over there, walk to the back and you to can 'discover' some expended ordnance tubes. It'll be a great day for you! Maybe you can get the middle aged war vet who runs the place brought up on charges of being held under Islamic sway while you're at it. Think of all the possibilities!
- HarryBauzonia, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2From the article:
"They later learned that used, inoperable AT-4 tubes are sold to the public through military surplus Web sites and other outlets."
...and boy, we're all "ethnic". Open a dictionary.
- siszam, on 10/11/2007, -9/+8Man, nutcases like you beat off when you hear something like this don't you. Something that probably has nothing to do with terrorism revs you up. You're wishing for a terrorist attack so you can pretend that it wasn't caused by much deserved, world wide hate our government. You crave the death of more people so you can excuse the useless, wholesale slaughter of the people fighting in Iraq. Bush and his followers are nothing more than psychopaths.
- appleann1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7"You crave the death of more people so you can excuse the useless, wholesale slaughter of the people fighting in Iraq"
You are one insensitive clod. You're hatred of Bush and the government has caused you to cross the line more than once. You want to oppose the war, fine, no problem, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But don't accuse Republicans of wishing for the deaths of servicemen as you did in a previous post, and now this gem.
You are one hateful piece of work lady, and that is MY opinion. - floorman56, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Obama has no problem with people dieing in Iraq
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QGF5700&show_article=1&image=large
- appleann1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7"You crave the death of more people so you can excuse the useless, wholesale slaughter of the people fighting in Iraq"
- sonaboy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3it's okay, neo-con stooge - nothing to READ HERE. Just read the headline and open your fat mouth like you actually read the story. Thanks!
- miketrin, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2moron, it's empty and can't be fired again. Used in training. It was probably heading to the dump. The right wing wackos are making this up to be some amazing terrorism find. Morons. Go back to lgf.
- craftyguy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1"Sources say Besai is not involved in the investigation as a suspect. "I don't think it was hers, they're nice people," Quinn said."
Who says terrorists couldn't appear to be 'nice people'
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -2/+62A SAM mysteriously shows up on a womans lawn. Somewhere, Dr. Wierd, from the South Shore is gleaming while ranting: "Gentelman, BEHOLD!...."
- bpmdub, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8If I could digg you up more than once for that I would I seriously think they need to bring Dr. Wierd back, he is the whole reason I watched that show
- Fungo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Of course this crap happens in my hometown. Interestingly enough, that's probably one of the more "normal" things to happen around here...
God I loathe Jersey City...
- Fungo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Of course this crap happens in my hometown. Interestingly enough, that's probably one of the more "normal" things to happen around here...
- NetJoe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15it's an unguided anti-tank weapon, NOT a SAM.
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Thanks, for the correction Joe, +1
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Thanks, for the correction Joe, +1
- geometry, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9Exactly my thoughts. "Hey guys, see how well our war on terror is working. They're just leaving their weapons on our lawns now. The Patriot Act at work! Now give up more freedoms and give us more money to go kill those bastards!"
- jworr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7it is not a SAM if the item is an AT-4. It would be very difficult to use to shoot down an airplane. In fact most anti-tank rocket launchers have too much black blast to be aimed at targets in the air.
- DJRayne, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I second this.
The AT-4 has been sent into obsolescence by a one time use cardboard tube. You could throw rocks at an Airplane and be more likely to hit it.
Without the ammo, what they found in that yard is as deadly as a wooden spoon.- DJRayne, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Correction: The AT-4 IS a one time use cardboard tube.
- DJRayne, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I second this.
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It's not a sam, be one hell of a shot to hit a plane with that. Very little guidance.
- Pyehole, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4 not only is it an unguided anti-tank missile, it was a used launcher (read useless as a launcher - the missile had already been fired and the tube cannot be reused)
- bpmdub, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8If I could digg you up more than once for that I would I seriously think they need to bring Dr. Wierd back, he is the whole reason I watched that show
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -17/+4..and while raining at the South Shore, Dr. Wierd rants: "Gentlemen.. BEHOLD!..."
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Damn, Digg's commenting section sucks anymore. I posted, then it dissappears. I check back in a few minutes, it is not there. But, when I check back 30 mins later, oh there it is.
To: Kevin Rose & Crew,
FIX this ***** Commenting System.
I am TIRED of it FREEZING my Browsers (Avant, FFox, Opera, & IE).
I am tired of having the comments page hang for 20-30 seconds on a T3 connection.
The whole commenting section worked fine a few weeks ago before it got 'pretty'.
I can't be the only one that this continually happens to.- SpectralSounds, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Happens to me too. The system sucks ass and we have all been telling them that from day 1. They said, "Give it a chance and if you still dont like it, we will change it." Well, it still sucks ass.
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Thanx for voicing frustration.
I am so tired of this, there is excuse for hanging browsers or anything when you have a 6Mb connection @ home.
These jokers need to get with it.
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Thanx for voicing frustration.
- SpectralSounds, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Happens to me too. The system sucks ass and we have all been telling them that from day 1. They said, "Give it a chance and if you still dont like it, we will change it." Well, it still sucks ass.
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Damn, Digg's commenting section sucks anymore. I posted, then it dissappears. I check back in a few minutes, it is not there. But, when I check back 30 mins later, oh there it is.
- Nedlog23, on 10/11/2007, -9/+8A Patriot missile found in a FL junk yard and now this?
What the HELL is going on?- Akaji, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6No correlation, unless you're trying to say that the terrorists took 'the part of the missile that goes boom'.
- Nedlog23, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I was merely pointing out that it doesn't seem that hard today to find military weapons just lying around for the taking.
- Kotelic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Wow, what a generalization. yes, because there were two news stories on the same day it suddenly becomes easy to find military weapons. It's not like every day someone wakes up and there's a random tank in the driveway. Calm down.
- Nedlog23, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I was merely pointing out that it doesn't seem that hard today to find military weapons just lying around for the taking.
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Bush can get his ratings to turn around. No believes Chertoff's "gut feeling"
- Akaji, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6No correlation, unless you're trying to say that the terrorists took 'the part of the missile that goes boom'.
- mazerrackham, on 10/11/2007, -15/+10She found a missile launcher that says "missle" and has a picture of a little army guy on it?
Money says its a neighborhood kid's tennis-ball cannon.- miriclaire, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Finally, a funny comment.
- ChronicColonic, on 10/11/2007, -6/+23I was wondering where left that thing...I guess it might be too much trouble to ask for it back now.
I was using it to get rid of the gophers in my yard, honest. - dixonbm, on 10/11/2007, -14/+11Possible Dry Run? Or was it a botched handoff of the weapon between terrorist groups?
- nickylouse, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Honestly, my first thought was someone making a point of how vulnerable we are, trying to wake up the sleepy-heads in Washington.
- superdupergc, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2god i hope they dont wake up and take more personal liberties.... it'd be nice if we checked every shipping container, though.
- geometry, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Do you know what that would do to the cost of goods coming into the US? Not that I'm against or for the idea but I just thought I'd point that out.
- phineous, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Maybe raise prices enough that domestic production could compete with Chinese poison?
- superdupergc, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2god i hope they dont wake up and take more personal liberties.... it'd be nice if we checked every shipping container, though.
- geometry, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Yeah, possible dry run. Let's do a dry run and leave the weapon so next time no one will be looking for us.
Botched hand off. Terrorist #1 to Terrorist #2 - "I'll leave the launcher on my front lawn, nobody will notice it"
Terrorist #2 to Terrorist #1 5 hours later - "Damn I must have overslept, I wonder if it's still there" - miketrin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4More right wing wackos. Give it a rest guys.
- nickylouse, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Honestly, my first thought was someone making a point of how vulnerable we are, trying to wake up the sleepy-heads in Washington.
- jimski1961, on 10/11/2007, -18/+43Carl Rove planted the missile on the lawn so as to keep the American public scared. Muslims would never do anything to obstruct civil aviation
- gRegorLove, on 10/11/2007, -15/+11While we're making generalizations, white people would never do anything to destroy government buildings.
- member57, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4With help from Muslims... Padilla anyone? Oops did I say that with my outer voice...
- jimski1961, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0good one
- member57, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4With help from Muslims... Padilla anyone? Oops did I say that with my outer voice...
- Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16Aviation? Isn't the AT-4 an anti-tank weapon?
- S1ngular1ty1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Yes, an AT-4 is an anti tank weapon.
- Ahnteis, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Terrists are gonna shoot down our airplanes ON THE RUNWAY!
That or the tanks at the airport.
- Ahnteis, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Terrists are gonna shoot down our airplanes ON THE RUNWAY!
- geometry, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Yes, the article even states that it's for tanks and buildings. But they still want to tie it to aviation, it's a better news story than the real story.
- superdupergc, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4it *could* be used to shoot at low flying airplanes if you were good, no doubt.
- anonym41414, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Actually it couldn't. The M136 AT4 rocket can only be fired horizontally. Any significant upward deflection would cause the rocket exhaust to injure the person firing it.
- IdevInull, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0You stupid turd...that is what they said at one time about the RPG variants. Yet time and again they down a helicopter...
- IdevInull, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Hey moron. AN AT-4 will blow up if you hit pretty much anything with it. So no -- the AT-4 is a anti-whatever-the-heck it hits weapon.
- superdupergc, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4it *could* be used to shoot at low flying airplanes if you were good, no doubt.
- member57, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6I wonder if a slow moving plane, like one on approach could be targeted. Also sometimes the objective of terrorism is to well terrorize, not necessarily to kill imagine the warhead whizzing past an airliner....
- catalysis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes, planes have been brought down by unguided, shoulder-fired rockets before. It is just difficult due to the blast coming out of the back. You could easily position yourself though, if you plan it out.
- S1ngular1ty1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Yes, an AT-4 is an anti tank weapon.
- gRegorLove, on 10/11/2007, -15/+11While we're making generalizations, white people would never do anything to destroy government buildings.
- freecon, on 10/11/2007, -20/+8More fear mongering from the FEDs. They are looking for an excuse to go into Iran and make this more of a police state. Who benefits????? Follow the money. Wake up!!!
- astuddis, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16Oh the Feds put it there, huh? Who's the one that needs to wake up?
- thotpoizn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Right, fscktard, I can here them now: "What? An anti-tank weapon was found in New Jersey?!? Quick, BOMB IRAN!!!"
... Here's your sign.
- jksesq1, on 10/11/2007, -26/+16Why isn't my rocket launcher protected by the 2nd amendment? As long as I've never been convicted of actually shooting down a plane, what is the basis for banning them? Honestly, I only use them to shoot deer and large game. NRA 4EVER!
- reed311, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3See, if everyone owned and carried rocket launchers this wouldn't have happened.
- pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1rocket launchers don't kill tanks. tanks kill tanks.
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1rockets kill tanks, not the launchers.... SHEEESH
- k012957, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6It actually *IS* legal to own a rocket launcher. It is a "type 3 destructive device" according to the law. Similarly it is perfectly legal to own a machine gun, or even a tank. The licensing is *very* invasive and the licensing costs are astronomical, so, the only legal civilian owners of these devices are the wealthy.
You can look on youtube for videos of the various shoots held each year for those folk who own such devices.
- jksesq1, on 10/11/2007, -20/+3My rocket launcher is protected by the 2nd Amendment. As long as I have no felony convictions, what is the basis for taking it away? I only use it to kill deer and large game. NRA4EVER!!!
- mrgreenjeans, on 10/11/2007, -4/+26Someone somewhere is getting an earful.
"Do you know how much that thing costs? Are you aware of the ***** I had to go through to get that? And you're going to stand there and tell me you set it down, just for a second, to tye your ***** shoes?!"- Technopope, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It cost $15 at the local Army surplus, according to the article. It was a spent launch tube from a weapon, not the weapon itself.
- avoidance, on 10/11/2007, -13/+7It sounds like neighbors harassing a middle eastern woman. Probably trying to intimidate or get her in trouble.
- gregharmon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Yeah because most neighbors have missle launchers laying around in their shed.
- avoidance, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You'd be surprised.
It's probably army surplus. They were first used in 1985, way before the stuff we're dealing with now.
"Jersey City Police could not confirm whether the device was actually operable, however an AT-4 can apparently only be used once. If it had been fired previously, than it would not be operable any longer."- phineous, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2At the end of the article they reveal that it probably was previously fired surplus. Cripes, the surplus store less than a mile from Tinker AFB in sells these. I can see the headline now, "giant weapons cache found within attack distance of heartland AFB."
- avoidance, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You'd be surprised.
- gregharmon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Yeah because most neighbors have missle launchers laying around in their shed.
- appleann1, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9Hope she doesn't get sued for reporting it.
- geometry, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1I think she's on her way to Guantanamo!
- pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2she's brown and has a funny name. i'm sure she's the primary suspect.
- SilkSteel, on 10/11/2007, -8/+52Correct me if I'm wrong, but these things don't shoot guided or target-locking rockets right? If its made for taking out tanks, I highly doubt you could target an airliner travelling 400-500 mph at 35000 ft. Retarded sensationalist media.
- Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Exactly. It's used as an anti-tank/structure weapon. Could destroy an airliner if the thing was still on the ground.
- Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Thinking about it somemore, the AT-4 is a single-use launcher. It could have been a discarded used shell which would be as dangerous as any other ackwardly large baseball bat shaped object.
- Technopope, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Read the article, and you will find it WAS just the tube, which can be purchased at a surplus store.
- jpop, on 10/11/2007, -1/+835000 ft no. A few hundred feet when the plane's taking off is a different thing though...
- Stormflux, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Still can't hit anything though. Even an airliner 500 feet up at takeoff speeds would be difficult to hit with a rocket.
- tastic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Seems unguided to me - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT4
There is no way to tell from the story if it contained a "live" round or was simply the casing and had already been fired. If the latter, it is scrap metal, nothing more.- inajeep, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11From the article: "The device found on Besai's lawn was said to have been used previously and deemed inoperable. "
- noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3You could if you were in the right position.
- sazerac, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2dream on
- neverender, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3No, you couldn't. Its pretty hard to hit a stationary tank with an AT-4 thats just a football field away.
- iceperson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I suppose you could hit it if you were standing inside the aircraft itself...
- blaaguuu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I dunno... In Battlefield 2, I can hit a Jet going full speed at about 300 feet with an RPG pretty consistently...
- silenceHR, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1FTA : Each launcher can be used only once, however, and the device found on Besai's lawn was said to have been used previously. It was deemed inoperable and not a threat before it was turned over U.S. Army officials at the New Jersey's Fort Monmouth.
what's the bug fuss?????????
- theNazz, on 10/11/2007, -6/+37I'm supposed to believe that some 'terrorist' simply left an unused rocket launcher on a lawn so that they could come back later and shoot down a plane? *****.
- davecor, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Or maybe he was near the the final approach are and lost his nerve?
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2RTFA, it was used, its a one time use weapon. So, it's a souvenir
- JCSaint, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well the best case scenario is that someone had it as a souvenir or some soldiers thought it would be cool to have and left it lying around. Worst case scenario is that this has been used by terrorists to test their aim and they have more though they probably wouldn't just leave this on some lady's lawn if that's the case. This shouldn't really bring up fears of terrorism but it should bring up fears of an incompetent military installation somewhere that just lost this. Think about. Somewhere, there's a guy in a uniform who can't account for one of these things.
- Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -1/+33That summary is rather misleading. It cut and pasted 2 points together. It never says "that it’s the kind of missile that can take down an aircraft". It's an AT-4. An anti-tank weapon. No guidance. You'd have to be pretty damn good shot to shoot down a plane in flight. A SAM missile is used to shoot down planes not an AT-4.
- abaddono1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2AT4 does have guidance, IR. however, shooting down a plane is not likely, it is not designed for it.
- iceperson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The AT-4 is point and shoot.
- tomrlutong, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It's more than a little misleading--not only would an AT-4 have a hard time hitting an airplane, this thing wasn't even an AT-4. It was just a used launch tube. Kinda a wierd thing to find on your front lawn, but no more dangerous to aircraft than a length of pipe.
- abaddono1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2AT4 does have guidance, IR. however, shooting down a plane is not likely, it is not designed for it.
- itsJALbert, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18it's an anti-tank weapon, not anti-aircraft, unless her house was -real- close to the airport
- zyl0x, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4For some weird reason, I just don't believe that at all.
- illflip, on 10/11/2007, -2/+25AT-4? was it loaded? if it wasnt...its harmless. the launchers are disposable and unusable. you can buy old AT-4 launchers at military junk yards (DRMO)
btw AT-4 is anti-tank. dunno if it could be used to take down a jet. need some good aim since its not guided and the plane would have to be relatively low to the ground.- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6It had been fired, so it was useless
- illcoyne, on 10/11/2007, -12/+20Wreaks of propaganda.
- mtrip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I think you mean 'reeks.'
- sunsheeine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6i have a question - who the f edits cbs's content? proofread, a-hole.
- dennisk85, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Did they find the missle too? or just the launcher?
- ruley, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5no, it was empty, and its a one time use thing anyway
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2And had been fired.
- illcoyne, on 10/11/2007, -10/+2Wreaks of propaganda.
- hooz, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Thats nothing, the local native Indian bands by Vernon BC Canada have caches of Rpgs, Rpks, your name it. No one really cares though because they just kinda look at it and go 'sweet'.
- mrgreenjeans, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1while drinking lysol
- g3buz, on 10/11/2007, -8/+9BREAKING: buried for use of 'breaking'.
- loitus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+35FALSE ALARM:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/07/rocket_launcher_harmless_feds.html
• Rocket launcher 'harmless,' feds say 1:45 p.m- noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3It's not really a false alarm... it is still a rocket launcher.
- iceperson, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3It's a used non-reusable rocket launcher. I'd say that's not much to be alarmed about. I'd be more afraid of a 12 year old with a slingshot.
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Oh come on, you can still club a baby seal with it. :)
- iceperson, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3It's a used non-reusable rocket launcher. I'd say that's not much to be alarmed about. I'd be more afraid of a 12 year old with a slingshot.
- noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3It's not really a false alarm... it is still a rocket launcher.
- orangester, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19Can we quit putting "Breaking" in the title? What, do you think you're Fox news or something?
- zilch321, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13I love the headline, milk it bitches! They found the damn thing laying in a ditch. "seize" as if they rolled up on some guy getting ready to fire it. Great police work we have going on there with that action "seizure"..By a lady in her bathrobe getting the morning paper.
- loitus, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3*
- Brian48216, on 10/11/2007, -7/+3Something about this story just doesn't add up. People don't just leave ***** like this on the front lawn of someone's house. You just don't leave something important on somebody's front lawn, much less an anti tank rocket launcher.
Terrorists are mean, not ***** brain dead. If they were gonna use said rocket launcher, you would imagine they'd shoot it from a more secluded area. At the very least, hide in a ***** tree.
If terrorists were really this stupid, we would have won the War in Iraq, dragged Osama through the streets, and opened Disneyland Iran by now.- illflip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3its probably a souvenir some veteran brought home, and some local kids maybe stole it and ditched it when they realized it was harmless.
i was actually thinking about buying one when i got out of the Marines (as a conversational piece for my living room haha), but i didnt have anymore room in my car on the ride back home. - k012957, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3The oddity of the story is what makes it interesting.
It's pretty obvious that the AT-4 was just a hollow shell (since it was already used), and posed no threat.
Why did it get left in the open? Why on her front lawn? (Especially since she has a "non-standard" ethnicity and "unusual" name)
It is possible that it was left as a prank. It is possible that someone stole it and then, realizing it was just junk, threw it out of their car randomly.
It is also possible that it is a probe of the response system.
I don't know, but, we do have to take it seriously for now.
- illflip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3its probably a souvenir some veteran brought home, and some local kids maybe stole it and ditched it when they realized it was harmless.
- DarKnight90, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1It could be the Mob's.
- curt082480, on 10/11/2007, -10/+2It amazes me that some of you idiots generalize Muslims as terrorists. That's like claiming that all Republicans are KKK.
- Vicujozobenaxod, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Do a search on Digg for "Republican" or even "Neocon", pretty much sums up the idiocy on here.
- pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2to twist around the islamophobe's favorite quote: "not all republicans are klan members, but most klan members are republican."
- Ahnteis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2>That's like claiming that all Republicans are KKK.
They aren't?! Well, I guess I can come out of my bunker then. Wish someone would have TOLD me. [glares around]
- reed311, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2Everyone panic and go to your narest polling station and vote Republican. Ok, so the worst terrorist attack of all time happened on their watch; but at least they'll have the podium to blame Democrats for it.
- TheHayze, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2*Kermit* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!*/Kermit*
Srsly, folks, it makes little sense that a used missle launcher can be used to take down a jet. - nplace1, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3For everyone saying "propagandaz zomg", I'm wondering, propaganda to what end? The shadow government planted an empty rocket launcher on a New Jersey lawn to show that...what? The terrorists are among us? Right now this is a "wtf" story, not a "PROOF OF TERRORIZM" story. Give me a freaking break.
- Kenzan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2My Grandslam was supposed to come with a scud.......
- sandiegodude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6What the hell, is some giant military surplus getting ready to have a big sale or something? A disarmed patriot missile and now a used rocket launcher... Next we're going to find a cluster of deactivated grenades and an expired gas mask in Washington or something...
- Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's the new cool thing to do. Get any kind of de-commisioned military hardware such as Partriot missiles, AT-4 launcher, ATHF LED signs, and put them in odd places like Boston, junk yards(although less odd for junk to actually be), people's yards, and intersections(my personal favorite).
- Infinite84, on 10/11/2007, -8/+5More Neocon spam. Burried as inaccurate.
- Neiby, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Crap. I was wondering where I left that rocket launcher. It must have come unhitched. Damnit, those are expensive!
- Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1you hitched your shoulder-launched AT-4? Why didn't you just put in the back seat or something?
- aixelsyD, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17an AT-4 is NOT going to take down an airborne plane. Buried for sensationalism and EDITING the text found in story.
- ruley, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13An empty military rocket launcher found on the front lawn of a Jersey City residence today caused a brief scare today, before federal authorities determined the device was inoperable and harmless.
U.S. Army ordinance experts are now trying to track down the serial numbers on the device to determine its origin.
According to the FBI, the launcher was the empty holder for an AT-4 anti-tank weapon - a one-shot rocket-propelled projectile used by the infantry to destroy or disable armored vehicles. The launcher is discarded after use.
FBI spokesman Sean Quinn said the launcher found by a homeowner in front of her house was essentially an empty tube.
"There was no threat," he said.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/07/rocket_launcher_harmless_feds.html- datastorageguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3These dam tubes always causing problems.
- duggtodeath, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Those ***** always clog up the internets!
- datastorageguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3These dam tubes always causing problems.
- Van3ck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Also found near the scene was a set of flaming tire tracks and abandoned VW bug crashed into a photo hut.
- Logan42, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I believe you meant "VW bus" not "VW bug" but I dugg your comment nonetheless...
- SmokeMeAKipper, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Was there one pine or two? I need to know if we can expect a timeshift.
- parasitewasp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Are there still fotohuts anymore or are you just old...like me?
- stronglikedan, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Only in NJ. Also, "Niranjana Besai" sounds like a terrorist name to me. Off to Guantanamo with her! (Do I really HAVE to add the sarcasm tags)
- jandir, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Unmanned drones are already following her and her family all around town.
- slipgrid, on 10/11/2007, -6/+6Very scary stuff. Before it's too late, we better bomb the ***** outta Iran.
- slipgrid, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Forgot the </snark> tag.
- allaboutdatiki, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Harmless or not, I just flew into Newark on Monday ... :O
http://digg.com/world_news/Breaking_Jersey_City_Rocket_Launcher_Harmless_or_Not/- iZealot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Are you afraid?
THAN THE TERRORIST WIN ( or Bush Administration)
Stop being pussy's people.
- iZealot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Are you afraid?
- blubolt, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1but what happened to the rocket? eh?
- nblsavage, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4probably fired long, long ago - this was basically just military trash.
- insonh, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1ok, we need to find out who the John Doe is who turned this in so his butt can be sued into oblivion.
democrats: making america safer for terrorists since 911 -
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