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Christian hero shoots back – again!
worldnetdaily.com — A Christian missionary whose book "Shooting Back" describes his encounter with heavily armed terrorists who attacked his church in 1993 and how he repelled them by firing back with his .38 special once again fought off an attempted hijacking by returning fire.
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- jesusis1, on 07/22/2008, -2/+4As I read this story, I got to thinking of how this story is written. Although a true, the way it was written it is very reminiscent of the "Left Behind" series. We need to keep our eyes and our ears open. This kind of terror can happen right here in the USA. A watchful eye and prayer will help to keep us all safe.
- ccso8462, on 07/22/2008, -2/+5Brothers and sisters, if you don't know how to use a gun, get one and learn now. The storm is coming.
- ramiro, on 07/22/2008, -3/+5It has already happened in the USA, in the New Life Church in Colorado Springs.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/14817480/deta ... - pjr12345, on 07/22/2008, -2/+7Praise the Lord, and pass the ammo!
I sure hope that the evildoers who attacked will repent and turn to Christ before the next preacher sends them to their Maker. - nippinawassee, on 07/22/2008, -2/+2That's the problem with movies - too many of the thugs use the movies as a blueprint for their operations thinking if they avoid the 'mistake' the movie thugs made, they won't be caught. I don't like these movies that are based on real life such as the boston strangler etc., and the others that depict the life of a serial killer. Too many whackos are out there who will view these movies over and over until all actions are ingrained in their warped minds and then the country has the I am Sam killer all over again. Seems there should be more concern as to the individuals that are impacted by these movies only to stupidly try to duplicate same.
- zortnac, on 07/22/2008, -5/+5Praise the Lord, and pass the ammo!
Lock and load for Jesus!
What would Jesus pack?
Armed and dangerous for the Lord!
God is great! God is great! *fire bullets in to air*
Nothin' says "Christ's love" like a fully loaded automatic weapon!- KJeffV, on 07/22/2008, -2/+1What's your point? You're not gonna "re-preach" the Sermon on the Mount, are ya?
- notbysight, on 07/23/2008, -1/+0zortnac understands how "the sermon on the mount" needs be protected so future generations will have the opportunity to read it.
- seala, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1 Nothing says Satan's hate like a fully loaded automatic weapon
Lock and load for Satan
What would Satan pack?
God is Good" God is great" Release doves for Christ
Praise the Lord and pass the ploughs
- downs1, on 07/22/2008, -3/+5It's amazing how bearing arms tends to decrease violence by those who would hurt supposedly defenseless people. When potential victims suddenly fight back, whether it is with an umbrella or with a gun, it sends a message to the attackers. Innocent unarmed people make good targets, but when the attackers suddenly become the targets, their attitudes change in a moment! Then you have the people in Congress who want to ban handguns in violation of the Second Amendment. The good guys can't get weapons to protect themselves, but the bad guys get weapons regardless. So the violence escalates. Wake up America! Learn how to use your weapons and protect yourselves. Make this an issue!
- USNavyBlue, on 07/22/2008, -3/+4Self Defense in the New Testament
The Christian pacifist may try to argue that God has changed His mind from the time that He gave Moses the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai. Perhaps they would want us to think that Christ canceled out the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20 or the provision for justifiably killing a thief in Exodus 22. But the writer of Hebrews makes it clear that this cannot be, because "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever" (Hebrews 13:8). In the Old Testament, the prophet Malachi records God's words this way: "For I am the Lord, I do not change" (Malachi 3:6).
Paul was referring to the unchangeability of God's Word when he wrote to Timothy that "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work" (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Clearly, Paul viewed all Scripture, including the Old Testament, as useful for training Christians in every area of life.
We must also consider what Christ told his disciples in his last hours with them: "...But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a sack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one" (Luke 22:36). Keep in mind that the sword was the finest offensive weapon available to an individual soldier -- the equivalent then of a military rifle today.
The Christian pacifist will likely object at this point that only a few hours later, Christ rebuked Peter who used a sword to cut off the ear of Malchus, a servant of the high priest in the company of a detachment of troops. Let us read what Christ said to Peter in Matthew 26:52-54:
Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Or do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than twelve legions of angels? How then could the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must happen thus?
In the companion passage in John 18, Jesus tells Peter to put his sword away and told him that He had to drink the cup that His Father had given Him. It was not the first time that Christ had to explain to the disciples why He had come to earth. To fulfill the Scriptures, the Son of God had to die for the sin of man since man was incapable of paying for his own sin apart from going to hell. Christ could have saved His life, but then believers would have lost their lives forever in hell. These things only became clear to the disciples after Christ had died and been raised from the dead and the Spirit had come into the world at Pentecost (see John 14:26).
While Christ told Peter to "put your sword in its place" He clearly did not say get rid of it forever. That would have contradicted what he had told the disciples only hours before. Peter's sword was to protect his own mortal life from danger. His sword was not needed to protect the Creator of the universe and the King of kings.
Years after Pentecost, Paul wrote in a letter to Timothy "But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever" (1 Tim. 5:8). This passage applies to our subject because it would be absurd to buy a house, furnish it with food and facilities for one's family, and then refuse to install locks and provide the means to protect the family and the property. Likewise it would be absurd not to take, if necessary, the life of a night-time thief to protect the members of the family (Exodus 22:2-3).
A related, and even broader concept, is found in the parable of the Good Samaritan. Christ had referred to the Old Testament summary of all the laws of the Bible into two great commandments: "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,' and your neighbor as yourself'" (Luke 10:27). When asked who was a neighbor, Christ related the parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:30-37). It was the Good Samaritan who took care of the mugging victim who was a neighbor to the victim. The others who walked by and ignored the victim's plight were not acting as neighbors to him.
In the light of all we have seen the Scriptures teach to this point, can we argue that if we were able to save another's life from an attacker by shooting the attacker with our gun that we should "turn the other cheek instead?" The Bible speaks of no such right. It only speaks of our responsibilities in the face of an attack -- as individual creatures made by God, as householders or as neighbors.
The wisdom of the framers of the Constitution is consistent with the lessons of the Bible. Instruments of defense should be dispersed throughout the nation, not concentrated in the hands of the central government. In a godly country, righteousness governs each man through the Holy Spirit working within. The government has no cause to want a monopoly of force; the government that desires such a monopoly is a threat to the lives, liberty and property of its citizens.
The assumption that only danger can result from people carrying guns is used to justify the government's having a monopoly of force. The notion that the people cannot be trusted to keep and bear their own arms informs us that ours, like the time of Solomon, may be one of great riches but is also a time of peril to free people. If Christ is not our King, we shall have a dictator to rule over us, just as Samuel warned.
For those who think that God treated Israel differently from the way He will treat us today, please consider what God told the prophet Malachi: "For I am the Lord, I do not change..." (Malachi 3:6).
There is more, however it would be too long to list.- farmerjohn48pan, on 07/22/2008, -1/+4If you are a preacher I would attend your church, no matter what the denomination is.
- drachemorder, on 07/22/2008, -1/+4Excellent exposition, brother. Right on the mark.
I noticed this as well:
"While Christ told Peter to "put your sword in its place" He clearly did not say get rid of it forever. That would have contradicted what he had told the disciples only hours before. Peter's sword was to protect his own mortal life from danger. His sword was not needed to protect the Creator of the universe and the King of kings."
Note that Jesus told him to put his sword up --- NOT to throw it away. If Jesus didn't intend for us to defend ourselves, why would he have let Peter be running around with a sword in the first place? And why didn't he tell him to get rid of it? He said "put it in its place" which of course implies that it HAS a place. That particular place, the garden of Gethesmane, was just not it. - notbysight, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2The time for encouraging clarification and action has indeed come! I am grateful to have read your post, and replies, the light of interpretation has freed my mind. For years I have owned many guns and rifles but was bound by guilt, doubts and misgivings. It is truly amazing how our forefathers and past military relatives had no reservations to using firepower to defend and uphold all that was dear, only to have satan blind us and bind us from this spirit boldness and truth. ....must been a touch of the liberal left pacifist virus....i'm over it now.
- chuckie2u, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1Self preservation is the FIRST fundamental law of NATURE. Those who like to quote scripture and use the phrase, "THOU SHALT NOT KILL!" miss the message in its original,"THOU SHALT NOT MURDER!" There is a differince. Christians should use all the force necessary to protect themselves, their family and society against the lawless thugs and libneral idiots of the world. The ALPHA Male of scripture is a warrior. There is a point where- in GOD shows no mercy to those who are lawless.
- notbysight, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2Preaching self-defense, family defense, community defense, national defense, needs begin again from the pulpits of fundamental Christian churches, world wide,.....as it did in colonial US.....
satan has bound our minds into submissive inaction with the poison of doled, traditionally misinterpreted scriptures....akin to the lie of political non-involvement for Christians.
brothers and sisters of Darfur, by experience, and too lately, know this now, all too well....
America was not won nor defended by inactive and ineffective diplomacy. The spirit of the 2nd Ament is a duty...not jsut a privelege.
Shoot often, shoot well, and when u need to shoot,..shoot to kill.!! - OyVay, on 07/24/2008, -0/+0"The LORD is a man of war. The LORD is His name." - Exodus 15.3
"Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:" - Psalm 144.1
I believe in Augustine's "Just War" theory. It accords with the analogy of Scripture.
Militant muslims are not afraid to die for their cause. They will strap bombs to themselves or drive vans or planes into buildings to kill as many as possible.
But I think that individual muslims bent on murder (and not acting as suicide bombers) will be less likely to lock and load and enter houses of worship if they thought they'd face a hail of bullets coming at them.
I think godly, conscientious Christians unafraid to arm and protect themselves and their brethren have even more reason to be unafraid to die if required to than their militant muslim opponents, who will be sorely disappointed 1 minute after blowing themselves up to find out that the virgins they were promised didn't exist.
Christians blessed with relatively persecution-free lives in America are reminded by stories like this that their brethren in other places around the world face evil from time to time. Some face it on a daily basis.
Believers around the world shall continue to pray for their persecuted brethren while encouraging pacifist parishioners to re-examine the Scriptures to understand that they have the blessing of the Lord to take up arms and defend hearth and home when occasion requires.
We pray, Lord, for your powerful protection to envelope our fellow believers suffering affliction and persecution around the world, as well as for our troops in harm's way, and thank you for their service to your church and our nation. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.- notbysight, on 07/24/2008, -0/+0If the priests of Israel bearing the Ark of God, had not put their feet in the Jordan river it would not have stopped flowing, upstream, the waters divinely stopped, ..they crossed over.
So to, armed believers will gain divine victory over cold blood, armed enemy assailants intent on killing their families, friends and neighbors.
This African brother is sending, to those of us that are willing, the long overdue message that pulling the trigger on evil is not only lawfully right, and spiritually permissible, but just, equitable, expected and respected in every culture from the beginning of our creation until the future day when evil is bound and dumped into the inescapable, infinite gravity of the "Pit".- OyVay, on 07/24/2008, -0/+0Indeed.
- notbysight, on 07/24/2008, -0/+0If the priests of Israel bearing the Ark of God, had not put their feet in the Jordan river it would not have stopped flowing, upstream, the waters divinely stopped, ..they crossed over.
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