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Congressman warns of current GA- Russia conflict in 2002!!! watch!

youtube.com — Ron Paul in an interview with Jim Lehrer says in 2002 interview that by the US adopting a preemptive first Strike Doctrine would eventually lead to Russia invading GA

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  • bucfish, on 08/14/2008, -41/+638Ron Paul right again. Such wisdom this man has or is it just pure common sense either way we need more people like him in DC!
    • OpenRevolt, on 08/14/2008, -18/+126Wisdom trumps "Change" yet again
      • sanman, on 08/15/2008, -4/+5Ron Paul could and should run as an independent. There's no law or requirement that he run as a Republican. There are a lot of big money interests in the GOP. If Paul would have the courage to break away from them, then he might make more of a difference.
      • TyroPyro, on 08/15/2008, -1/+5I too define politicians with just one word
      • ftc68, on 08/16/2008, -0/+1tyro, thanks for the laugh.

        what makes you think Obama doesn't have wisdom? he was a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago. he was also the president of the Harvard College Law Review.

        McCain, however, graduated 894 out of 900 in his class.
      • OpenRevolt, on 08/17/2008, -0/+1A wise man wouldn't be screwing over the people with FISA and this Surge flip-flop, especially when such people have 80+millions guns and are becoming more and more pissed off every day.

        If Obama doesn't start turning things around soon then you better hope he knows how to duck better than he bowls.

        The same goes for every other politician.
    • Syrisgone, on 08/14/2008, -9/+144This is what drives me crazy every time I hear the term "Paultard". As if somehow he is deluded in his views on foreign policy.

      He is the only politician I've ever heard who had a solid grasp as to how our meddling with foreign affairs has drastic consequences for our safety and security.

      Such a shame people didn't catch onto the Fox News propaganda until it was aimed at Obama. It may be too late for Paul to win office, all we can hope for now is keeping as many Neo Cons out of the senate as possible.
      • DonQueso, on 08/14/2008, -32/+7because mccain predicted it in 2000? http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/ ... (thanks to kalvinb for the link)
      • DroogInPhoenix, on 08/15/2008, -3/+68I can not in good faith vote for anyone but RP, everything he has said about the economy, the dollar, the politics has come true... and RP ran his campaign like a gentlemen, all we get from McCain and Obama, is a lot of things about change, but they never say WHY we are in the messes we are in.
      • ChristNewsWatch, on 08/15/2008, -18/+11Even if Ron Paul would have won the presidency, the powers that be would stop him from being able to do much of anything....

        Ron Paul's real purpose is opening our eyes to the mass corruption that has been going on!

        Ron Paul is a TRUE born-again Christian, and truly has been a prophet of God, used to open our eyes regarding the deception and lies of this present world!

        http://christiansforronpaul.com/statement.htm

      • Atmeh, on 08/15/2008, -3/+11Um,, I don't believe Ron Paul has dropped out of his bid for Presidency. Anyone in America with an ear can still vote for him in the next election. This is what he and his supporters are counting on. If one percernt of the population went out and voted for Ron Paul for 2008 he would win by a landslide. The unfortunate truth is that nobody votes. Everyone believes their votes don't count so they just don't vote. Then we get the media's choice.
      • KMye, on 08/15/2008, -17/+10Um, Paultard is still an extremely accurate label; just look at the laudatory comments for Paul's keen prediction, and the diggs they've received.

        In this interview - with Moyers, not Leher - Paul is predicting Russia would claim there were terrorists in Georgia, and use that as a pretense to invade, using our invasion of Iraq as a justification for it. That's not at all what's happened here...
      • seanof, on 08/15/2008, -2/+8"In this interview - with Moyers, not Leher - Paul is predicting Russia would claim there were terrorists in Georgia, and use that as a pretense to invade, using our invasion of Iraq as a justification for it. That's not at all what's happened here..."

        Very true, people often ignore even major details like that and will say even statements that only loosely fit certain facts are predictions.

        Russia did use war on terror rhetoric to justify and gain support for it's in actions Chechnya.
      • Stormwern, on 08/15/2008, -3/+1Ron Paul would have won if only democrats were a little more angry at fox?? Fox is a republican network, run by republicans, watched only by republicans, impacting only republican candidates, I don't think I'm going out on a limb saying this is a problem republicans aught to be dealing with.
      • Winston84, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2You mean "He is the only American politician I've ever heard who had a solid grasp..." , right ?
      • cygnus2112, on 08/15/2008, -3/+2KMye:

        Actually, they've been calling Georgians terrorists for years now. And if you read any news prior to August 7th, you'll see most of the aggressions were attacks on Georgia villages by Russian-backed separatists from South Ossetia. Pre-text for war, Russia planned this all along.

        But apparently, it's popular on Digg to blame the US and Georgia.
    • electricwaffles, on 08/15/2008, -5/+10Dave?
    • k3rfuffl3, on 08/15/2008, -1/+60It's too bad being right doesn't make you successful.
      • chispito, on 08/15/2008, -1/+10I don't even like Paul that much, but your comment is nonetheless poignant.
    • ufia, on 08/15/2008, -36/+8Yeah because mentioning the animosity between Russia and Georgia was so cutting edge in 2002.

      Mark my words, I'm "predicting" a potential war in Kashmir opposing India and Pakistan. OMG I'm so cutting edge, nobody is seeing it coming. Except maybe paultards who only get their news of the world from Alex Jones and Fox News.
      • Syrisgone, on 08/15/2008, -1/+24There are very few things I can say for certain about Paul supporters, as they tend to come from a variety of backgrounds, but one thing is for sure, they don't watch Fox 'news'.
      • Syrisgone, on 08/15/2008, -1/+24BTW, a good number of the people you call 'Paultards' are in active service in the military.

        Way to support the troops.

        Current campaign donations from active duty military personal.
        http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/troops-dep ...

      • SouthsideIrish, on 08/15/2008, -3/+13WTF! Do you understand that most Libertarians consider Alex Jones to be a wacko, and Fox News. Are you kidding me! Why would a Libertarian want to watch Fox, you idiot! A Libertarian IS NOT a neo-con, and we are just as pissed off at Fox as you are.

        BTW, I get my news from the Beeb and the Economist.
      • worldchanger, on 08/15/2008, -1/+2no. fail.
      • kaelyiesta, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2You failed to see the argument Paul was making. He did not merely point out animosity, but something broader and prescient. I encourage you to watch the video again. I'm sure you wont miss it if you pay attention.
      • bbqsalad, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2demtards, libtards, paultards.. man you guys are so creative and smart coming up with those.
      • goffy59, on 08/18/2008, -0/+1DUMB *****!
    • Sogui, on 08/15/2008, -4/+36Only the Russian offensive wasn't a "pre-emptive" strike, it was a "You just rocketed the ***** out of our peacekeeping zone" strike.
      • geoffg, on 08/15/2008, -11/+3So let me get this right, Georgia attacks "Russia"...(how South Ossetia is now called "Russia" is beyond me) and therefore the Russian response is "justified?"...a violent response that's still ongoing with the latest statement being that "the issue of Georgian territorial integrity is dead!"

        Do you Diggtards really hate America and want the socialist "utopia" this bad? What happened to pacifism being your cause?
      • notanidiot, on 08/15/2008, -2/+5Yeah, geoffg, I'd say that when a country attacks you, its best not to just let it go. I'm a pacifist, and non violent, but if a dude comes up and punches me in the face, I'm laying his ass out.

        By the way, Iraq never attacked us, just in case you were wondering.
      • hajimemashite, on 08/15/2008, -0/+3geoffg-you do realize that even though s ossetia is officially in georgia, most of the people there are actually russian citizens right?
      • Mike754, on 08/15/2008, -0/+0officially in gergia, but they hate georgians, and georgians hate ossetioans
      • KireGoTI, on 08/15/2008, -1/+2Everyone's an authority all of a sudden.

        There's a reason South Ossetia is in Georgia. Otherwise it's in Russia, and then... well, then things like this happen.

        Also, it's not accurate to say that the Georgians and the South Ossetians hate each other. It's fine to say that they feel bitterly humiliated after the cold war, but hate may be too strong.

        Also, you may want to check your time-line. South Ossetia was not a "peacekeeping zone" (which is a farce, anyway) until Russia invaded it. Upon the invasion they were welcomed as heroes. I seem to recall something similar happening in a certain country in the Middle East. However, that conflict is unpopular on Digg, so I don't think I'll name it.
      • cygnus2112, on 08/15/2008, -3/+2notanidiot: (yes, yes you are)

        Did you forget Iraq firing on US aircraft patrolling the no-fly zones? Or the assassination attempt on Bush Sr?
      • kieranmaine, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3"Did you forget Iraq firing on US aircraft patrolling the no-fly zones? Or the assassination attempt on Bush Sr?"

        They sound like good reasons to destroy a country.

      • notanidiot, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3cygnus, assassination attempt on Bush Sr? Which happened over a decade before we invaded? Are you serious?

        Also, US aircraft... no fly zones... do you see why they might have been fired on? Another instance where it was America starting it.
    • ZenMojo, on 08/15/2008, -6/+24Actually, he was absolutely right, and he called the players dead on. And I knew all along Fox News was out to sink Ron Paul. I disagree with him fundamentally on a political level, so it wouldn't have helped him in my eyes one bit, but he got short shrift.

      And if anyone wants to talk blowback and precedent, think of it this way. Under Russia's Chechnyan precedent, South Ossetia can fight to keep Abkhazia and South Ossetia, but under the United States' Kosovo and Iraq precedents, they can't really say ***** about Russia fighting off Georgia Proper. They technically cancel each other out.

      The only thing that keeps Georgia looking even worse in this is that Georgia signed a peacekeeping agreement that it wouldn't go after Abkhazia and South Ossetia and in addition it violated a recent ceasefire last week with GRAD attacks on Tskhinvali.

      Now, Russia has had permission to keep up to 3,000 troops in South Ossetia and Abkhazia for 15 years. The disproportionate part of Russia's actions is its increase of forces to 5,000 soldiers. Its movements and militant posture are technically within its OCSE mandate under a joint peacekeeping agreement with Georgia.

      Also, according to the recent ceasefire Russia agreed to it has the freedom to establish a several-mile buffer zone outside of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, so while Condoleeza Rice screams that its ceasefire has been violated, Russia hasn't been documented firing a single shot in almost 48 hours and the cities of Zdudinga, Poti, and Gori are all within 10 miles of the borders of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Israel has a buffer zone with Lebanon of 20 miles, so there is precedent for Russia's actions here -- a loophole, perhaps, but clearly espoused and repeated.

      The United States realizes that the terms of the ceasefire are inconvenient because it means Russia can technically control a huge port city and a massive city while still being within a reasonable boundary of control. Still, the United States currently ignores a part of the ceasefire in its complaints while it at the same time tries to get it removed from the document.
      • cygnus2112, on 08/15/2008, -0/+4While there has been no proof of Russian troops firing upon Georgians, the separatists from South Ossetia and Abkhazia have been going on a rampage against the civilians. You know - rape, murder, theft, etc.
    • 3amboo, on 08/15/2008, -23/+2OBAMA & PAUL for 2008. if only...
      • misguidedmonkey, on 08/15/2008, -2/+18How bout Paul for 2008 and Obama is a ***** puppet.
    • leetninja, on 08/15/2008, -3/+8more people like him at 1600 you mean ...
    • ceredron, on 08/15/2008, -18/+12.... Anyone could have called this. You know that, right? A conflict between Georgia and Russia was pretty much inevitable since, oh, I dunno, the fall of the USSR. If you knew anything about that part of the world, I mean. Good on RP on calling the obvious.
      • numb, on 08/15/2008, -1/+8I wish more congressmen would be willing to "call the obvious."
      • KireGoTI, on 08/15/2008, -4/+3They did. That's why we're allied with Georgia and Poland and the Ukraine and all these other countries in the first place. I thought that was apparent, but I guess not.
    • mike17032, on 08/15/2008, -14/+5Do they write these little gems for you on the forums you assholes use to game digg?
      • cashman57, on 08/15/2008, -3/+12Don't you realize how many times Ron Paul has been RIGHT?
        I know a lot of people who support Ron Paul and they are mostly degreed professionals and business owners and people who see reality every single day and recognize when someone is ***** them and Dr. Ron Paul is not about *****, he calls it as he sees it and he has seen it right so many times it would be obvious to the casual observer that he has a far better sense of reality than the D&R gang posterboys OBushma and McSame.When you come down to it on the important things like our liberty and having a country to pass on to the next generation of Americans Dr. Ron Paul is right. He is by far the most educated candidate, by far has the most economic expertise and as we see right now in the clip you didn't watch is his expertise in foreigfn policy that far surpasses what the one and the new Dole have.
      • notanidiot, on 08/15/2008, -4/+2He was against impeaching Cheney, so what's the point?
      • danomagnum, on 08/15/2008, -0/+6But it's exactly the pandering he doesn't do that so many people love.
    • abadonn, on 08/15/2008, -11/+6What *****, anyone that has been following news from the region can tell you that both Georgia and Russia have been slowly amassing troops on the borders for several years. It was a powder keg just waiting to blow. This is far from the first battle for the region.
    • Jareth86, on 08/15/2008, -4/+5Pretty much anyone with a brain knew this.
      • cashman57, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2Except those who use the word "paultard for onetime or many.
      • kaelyiesta, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Since so many agreed with the use of preemptive strikes, that would imply very few people have brains. Or they realized the consequences of this policy and weren't against it occurring.
    • N01SE, on 08/15/2008, -7/+2Russian and Georgian conflict has been around for a long time, Ron Paul was not the only person to know about it in 2002.
    • tvharddrive, on 08/15/2008, -6/+1When is this man ever wrong? NEVER!
      http://tvharddrive.com/
      • diskit, on 08/15/2008, -2/+2I'm sorry, what's his stance on evolution?
    • DigzDogg, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2In year 2002 Georgia has different president, Kosovo was a part of Serbia, Iraq was independent country... Since that time Georgia has changed president to a paranoid lunatic, Kosovo gain independence from Serbia (with NATO help), Iraq was invaded by USA and still occupied.


    • RandaII, on 08/15/2008, -9/+2Ron Paul is an moron. Man you people really need to get your own opinions and stop following everything everyone else says. ***** diggers.
      • cashman57, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1How many more degrees do you have than Dr. Paul?
        I find that my own opinions match those of Dr. Paul.Many degreed professionals agree with me and Dr. Paul has been proved right so many times you would have to be a moron not to see it IMHO.
  • DAFTEK, on 08/14/2008, -25/+399Can we say I told You so? It's called blowback....
    • DonQueso, on 08/14/2008, -34/+6because mccain predicted it in 2000? http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/ ... (thanks to kalvinb for the link)
      • dOOBiEx213, on 08/15/2008, -2/+2Yourself... please kill it.
      • rolexxx11, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2wow.. the digg effect is great huh? anything good about mccain or bad about paul or obama and you have no chance
    • jabberwolf, on 08/15/2008, -24/+6OOPS Mccain knows but Obamatards can't accept it
      2000
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc7kL2Ix4VI
      1999
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jdyPSH027I
      While Mccain shows ballz, Obama is still all cheap talk from a teleprompter.

      But Ron Paul is no idiot either and saw this as well with Georgia.
      Imagine that: BOTH REPUBLICANS
    • GoBack2Europe, on 08/15/2008, -2/+11The mainstream media needs to give Ron and 3rd party candidates more exposure. When covering Obama and McCain they rarely talk about real issues. Civics and a real government class needs to be reinstated in high schools. I don't agree on everything with Ron Paul but he seems to be right on lots of issues. I especially like his pro-civil liberties and pro-taxpayer stances.

      By the way ***** Earl Ofari Hutchinson for his hit piece on Ron Paul a few months back.
    • meanswing, on 08/15/2008, -2/+1Dont you mean forshadow...?
    • Schmich, on 08/15/2008, -2/+4And yet again another youtube video where the view count is blocked at a low number.
      • trogdoor, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Just like every other video that gets dugg, youtube has problems with short bursts of views. ( Possibly an anti spam feature that is overly sensitive ? )
      • Schmich, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Ah never thought of that, could be actually.
    • diskit, on 08/15/2008, -0/+3A Ron Paul fan gloat?

      Never seen that before [/sarcasm]
  • justcomehome, on 08/14/2008, -28/+265Brilliant
    • DonQueso, on 08/14/2008, -28/+2because mccain predicted it in 2000? http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/ ... (thanks to kalvinb for the link)
      • BonersMilloy, on 08/15/2008, -0/+4DonQueso, judging by your comments in this thread i'm gonna say you're just some conservative retard who has no clue how government works.
    • Poochyfud, on 08/15/2008, -11/+1Oh come on, you can't tell me that Ron Paul was the only one who saw this coming, and while he may be a good guy, he isn't brilliant for this prediction. Anyone who knows anything about Russian history or even international politics saw this coming a long time ago.
    • 4d669, on 08/15/2008, -1/+5What I love about this war is how it started while everyone was distracted by the Olympics and how Henry Kissinger, Bush and Putin sat next to each other watching sports, while thousands died.
    • More4, on 08/15/2008, -6/+1Dr Paul is dang smart, he has the best dang thanktank in lower alabama, von mises instit., as well as the most intellectual militia groups in the land!!!
    • Vltava, on 08/15/2008, -5/+4There is so much brown-nosing in this thread. You might as well suck his gold-standard dick.
      • nobhdy, on 08/15/2008, -0/+3As much as i support Paul, thats pretty funny.
    • Stormwern, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1That's not Jim Lehrer though, it's Bill Moyers.
  • razorsharpwit, on 08/14/2008, -34/+552Ron Paul is ***** cutting edge. I mean the man is sharp. Come on America!
    • aznpwnzor, on 08/14/2008, -26/+6Welcome to Digg
      ^ is a prime specimen of a Digger
      • contemplator, on 08/14/2008, -4/+7Are you welcoming your Mom to Digg?
        ^ is a prime specimen of a grazer. Grazing on the green green grass of the official line. Wake up before you grow up. Maybe you can do something good with your vote in a few years there little guy.
    • MutexDeadlocked, on 08/15/2008, -3/+38The only reason his observation seems incredibly sharp is due to the fact that most Americans are not all that aware of brewing conflicts outside of those their country is involved in. That is why when such a conflict does climax and hit the news cycle, there is an illusion that it is unexpected when in reality that may not be the case.

      Although, I completely agree with Ron Paul, that any policy of preemptive warfare is a bad one, and that it only encourages other countries to participate in the same strategies.
      • Tommyhawk, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2True but there's a lot of politicians who aren't aware of what's going on outside our country either... and there's even fewer who will tell it to the American people straight up the way it is.
    • destron, on 08/15/2008, -2/+21Ron Paul ***** wins again.
      • notanidiot, on 08/15/2008, -8/+3I wasn't aware that he was a winner. Seems to me, from this past election year, he's a loser.
    • Ultra99, on 08/15/2008, -1/+14Yes, yes Ron Paul > Chuck Norris > Nostradamus. I get it.
      • destron, on 08/15/2008, -10/+2Chuck Norris > Ron Paul?

        I don't think Ron Paul could stand up to a roundhouse kick. Too bad, though.
    • chrislongridge, on 08/15/2008, -7/+5He didn't predict anything, he just repeated what the Russians had said publicly.
      • wishninja, on 08/15/2008, -0/+10your are right he didn't predict anything. His policies are a prediction of what Paul will say on any subject. He is right because his policies are spot on not because he can predict anything. McCain had to hedge his bets on the surge why? Because he knows he supports it on a whim and worries about his guess. Obama had to hedge his commitment on the Iraq war in the same way. Ron Paul never hedges anything because he is principled and always has the same ideals.
      • KireGoTI, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1Wishninja, your comment has nothing to do with the topic. Yet you have ten diggs.

        Has anybody read the rules for discourse on the internet?
    • alfredomancho, on 08/15/2008, -5/+6Come on America? Too bad most people in your country can't tell a nut from a bolt.
    • fudged71, on 08/15/2008, -2/+3You have some razor sharp wit to point that out!
    • ruddy, on 08/15/2008, -2/+11instead we're left with these two stupid ***** heads...

      we had he smartest man running for president, and we ***** on him for... *****?! i hate my life

      it's a bad day when you have to choose between a giant douche or turd sandwhich for president
    • 4d669, on 08/15/2008, -2/+11Everyone raving about Ron Paul in here is voting (and voted) for Obama. ***** you all and enjoy your FISA bill. You'll be as ashamed as republicans who voted for Bush when the hypnosis of his empty rhetoric and personality wear off. Enjoy the North American Union lead by the CFR puppet.
      • PubeStache, on 08/15/2008, -0/+4@4d669: I'm not voting for Obama. Of course I have yet to rave about Ron Paul on here. I'm sick of the two party system.
    • Archer007, on 08/16/2008, -0/+1Cutting edge... in 2002, no less!
  • digitalhair, on 08/14/2008, -21/+171A case of "lead by example" - as they say.

  • tykwondingo, on 08/14/2008, -33/+342omfg braek outt ur tynfoil hatz!!1!

    /s

    how much more is required from this guy to prove that he KNOWS his *****!? I guess some people are just hopeless... being indoctrinated must be so comforting. The whole abandonment of critical thinking thing must leave plenty of time for Americunt Idol.
    • g00dETH3R, on 08/15/2008, -0/+44And to think people voted for McCain over Paul, intellectually stunted, brainwashed, ***** assholes.
      • arcooke, on 08/15/2008, -1/+19If Paul would have received the same amount of media coverage as McLame, he WOULD have been the republican nominee. Lack of attention is what killed him... nobody knew who he was. I bet a lot of republican voters would have been right behind him had they known.
      • wishninja, on 08/15/2008, -0/+7nah it was not being a neo-con that killed his nod. Republican neo-cons are pro-war.
    • SatoriSeeker, on 08/15/2008, -0/+7Paul should not be a republican, they don't exactly attract a lot of progressives over there. Not that I buy into any of the red team blue team garbage, but if you're gonna put on a jersey at least come over to the side where more people understand how fundamentally f-ed up the country is rather than the side who watches Fox News.

      Having said that, the democrats failed to nominate Kucinich so who knows. Kucinich still has time to become president some day, I hope people wake the ***** up soon.
      • LenBaird, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2The democrats are bad too, as you sort of point out. I am a registered republican, but I don't consider the current crop of republicans to be "real republicans," for less government and less interference in our lives. Ron Paul is what I'd call a real republican.
        I have considered dropping any party affiliation, or possibly going Libertarian.
        It seems clear to me that the two party system lately is more to create the illusion of choice between two different sets of ideas, than to give us any real choice. On the important issues, they are all the same. War war war, spend our money on things that don't benefit us. More government intrusion into our lives.
        The differences are in things like gay marriage, and abortion, which aren't even things that the government should get involved in, at least on the federal level.
      • seraph582, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2Satori: I almost dugg you down for inferring that the dems are any better, but I dugg you up because of the Kucinich reference. He was the only one that talked like he was thinking, and I respected that.

        LenBaird: same here, brother. Remembering when Republican meant Laissez-Faire and smaller government makes me really, really resent what republicans have become today.
    • norm7, on 08/15/2008, -0/+8I gotta say, I bash on Ron Paulers a lot, but I have to give him credit for his grasp of how disastrous our foreign policy is. I might not like some of his other policies, but he's willing to speak the truth on foreign policy, no matter how unpopular it is.
    • ReeseKaine, on 08/15/2008, -7/+1He wants us out of Iraq, he wants to legalize pot, GREAT, but people keep forgetting a few things about the guy:

      He's anti-choice, he's anti gun control, he's pro-laissez faire capitalism (what all got us in the mess we're in now) and he's known as "Dr. No" in Congress because he is often the dissenting vote on any bill where the guh'mint has to spend any money.

      I dunno whether it's intentional to cherry-pick the good stuff, or if people are having their own kind of Scientology cult offering of Ron Paul to the masses, but the facts don't lie: The guy is seriously-flawed. I wouldn't mind if he served as a Presidential Advisor, he does know his *****. But this is not the kind of guy you want behind the Oval Office desk. Wake up.
      • waynetheman, on 08/15/2008, -0/+6Yes, I DO want him in the Oval Office.

        And the fact that he wants to get us out of Iraq, legalize pot, and is anti gun control and pro-laissez faire capitalism is a good deal of it.

        It's called being pro-liberty.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I
      • chmcarro, on 08/18/2008, -0/+2Constitution much?
      • Sk00L, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1fail... once again another person who has not taken the time to even comment intelligently due to misunderstanding his policy's. Re-explore his stance in depth please and why he says what he says and weather or not it is his personal point of view or something that you decided to fill in the blanks on being his agenda. I am not going to educate you as to all your specific points just saying that you are misunderstanding what he said. The world is a whole lot more complicated then the Obama/McCain hope, change, and fear for 4th graders speeches that most Americans can wrap their dumbed down TV fed brains around and may require some education on your part to grasp a larger understanding.
    • seadeus, on 08/15/2008, -0/+4Americans have become a herd bound group. No ability to think for themselves.

      What is missing in the political debate, except for Ron Paul, is a focus on freedom as the defining issue in all matters and an understanding of the relationship of local and federal government in that definition. Without a clear understanding of freedom and why it requires a clear separation between local and federal government, talking about issues is pointless. Instead, we get the herd bound mentality of the average American.
  • kemp34, on 08/14/2008, -23/+349Wow, this dude is continuously on point.
    • zephyr42, on 08/14/2008, -2/+52It's like a conspiracy of truth or something...
    • maximoo2, on 08/15/2008, -1/+14He is most correct IMHO about getting rid of the federal reserve. The US economy is so *****..and going to get worse...way more inflation coming.
    • dsmx, on 08/15/2008, -0/+12Everything Ron Paul says will come true simply because he actually understands what he's talking about rather than being told what to say.
    • Bartboy919, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1WRONG, Russia isn't invading Georgia, they are responding to ***** that Georgia pulled back at the beginning of the month.
  • richmomz, on 08/14/2008, -26/+362That crazy Ron Paul guy is at it again with his facts and common sense! How is it that this guy keeps seeing things that our enlightened leaders in Washington cannot?
    • TritonX, on 08/14/2008, -16/+7Who said they can't they see it?
      • hypertension, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3Why digg down Triton?

        He's saying that many in government DO know and see things, but are choosing the status quo anyway.

        Proof: Cheney, in an interview about the 90's, explaining why we didn't remove Saddam the first time because EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW would happen -- kurds, sunnis, shias, etc etc etc....
    • alphavision, on 08/15/2008, -3/+38But can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
    • wishninja, on 08/15/2008, -1/+14could it be that he actually has morals and puts america first before his own bank account? the leaders know what they are doing they are gabbing as much money as they can and giving everyone else the big one finger solute.
    • jack12345678910, on 08/15/2008, -0/+12its not that other politicians can't see it. its just that they don't want to do anything about it. they're all about benefitting themselves. ron paul is not a teamplayer that is why they won't give him real power. ron paul does what he believes is right and not what other politicians/corporations want. mccain and obama will say anything it takes to make the people like them. but the problem with democracy is, the mob is inherently stupid.
  • rebotfc, on 08/14/2008, -77/+16Oh dear god Digg will never hear the end of this now...


    ... not that he aint right and all.
    • diceau, on 08/15/2008, -11/+6Here's a tip, how about you ***** off with your negativity and understand that it's backhanded statements like that that ended up getting him ignored in the first place?

      People are easily persuaded when they don't know who someone is and aren't too bright.

      So seriously, STFU with any negativity toward Ron Paul. If you agree with him, then just say so, and then GTFO.
      • omarciddo, on 08/15/2008, -4/+6You're so right diceau. No one has any right to say anything ill about Ron "The Diggers' Jesus" Paul. Here's a tip. Next time instead of overreacting to a rhetorical (and completely valid) blurb how about you just vote with a thumbs down and bury him. Guess what, half the Ron Paul crap on Digg was legitimate and half were just blogs that made him out to be better than he really was. So sorry if those of us who weren't going to vote for him regardless cringe at the memory that was the Ron Paul Wire aka Digg's front page. I didn't like him because of his economic "hands-off" policy wanting to remove all restrictions on business. That translates to monopolies roaming free again. And no, I'm not talking about OPEC (they can monopolize regardless) here, I mean any company with the power to monopolize someone could, and would. People forget the how monopoly-happy rail companies were at the height of their development.

        /end Ron Paul rant
      • goosegoosegoose, on 08/15/2008, -2/+1@omarciddo

        Kid, you're alllllllllllright
      • diceau, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3Over reacting? You constantly speak ill of the one man who knows what he's doing, find one or two faults and then ignore the hundreds of faults of the other candidates, and then tell me I'm over reacting?

        You have got to be kidding, that's exactly the attitude that is creating the problems in the world.

        Whether you like EVERYTHING about him or not, Ron > Everyone else.
      • omarciddo, on 08/15/2008, -2/+1Man, I don't know about you, but domestic economic policy seems to matter a whole lot more to me than it does you. You just dismissed it as "one or two faults"...really? I think the "my way or the highway" attitude you just demonstrated is creating more problems in the world than anything else.
    • wishninja, on 08/15/2008, -2/+6I hope not I hope my children are digging Ron Paul comments.
    • rebotfc, on 08/15/2008, -1/+6Ha that is funny I make a light hearted commented about Ron Paul's digg fans( who i agree with by the way) and the Paulites have a heart attack =).
      • diceau, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1It's not a good time for negativity toward him. The fact that he didn't get the nomination is ridiculous ... honestly, who the hell could possibly prefer McCain to Paul?

        I can understand Obama to Paul, but McCain? Argh.
  • sportsstar67, on 08/14/2008, -115/+12I predict someday Mars will invade Jupiter !!!
    • Hangly, on 08/14/2008, -7/+34I predict one of these days you'll get tired of doing this.
    • r3negadeX, on 08/14/2008, -5/+26And until you prove us that you're right, we'll gladly bury you.
    • avrygoodfrnd, on 08/15/2008, -6/+1I predict the heat death of the universe
    • krAzykrAkr01, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4How do you know they haven't already? When was the last time anyone went to jupiter or mars? Maybe there was a big al queada base on jupiter that had to be wiped out for martian homeland security.
  • TheOrlonater, on 08/14/2008, -19/+95Awesome.
  • Jason726, on 08/14/2008, -23/+237How anyone can call him crazy is just beyond belief... Ron Paul is right again.
    • AlekseiVasiliev, on 08/15/2008, -8/+3He got something right! That negates everything wrong about him, and his racism, immediately!

      Wait, no it doesn't.
      • hypertension, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3Ron Paul is not racist... just like you're not a reasonable person.
    • Revovisionary, on 08/15/2008, -0/+3He's not crazy, I just don't agree with his policies. As someone who would never vote for the man I'd have to say he deserves his props for that one.
  • Hangly, on 08/14/2008, -21/+163Sharp as a tack, as usual.
  • HumanCattle, on 08/14/2008, -23/+69Normally I would expect jcm267 and his bury brigade to be trolling all over this thread, but I think there might be something wrong with his account.

    Does anyone else get an error on this page or is it just me?
    http://digg.com/users/jcm267
    • MarkusGarvey, on 08/14/2008, -23/+7gee..i seem to be having the same problem!...digg server maintenance?....or maybe the "Great Wand Of Banning" had a fatal malfunction?...you know onetimer?..he is your BFF...
    • DroogInPhoenix, on 08/15/2008, -4/+14The RP bury brigade isn't complete without Amiches (last log in 24 weeks ago) or Goatroper.
    • nymphetamine, on 08/15/2008, -9/+24You guys seriously need to get out more.
      • kaelyiesta, on 08/15/2008, -2/+2Ah, here's one of the regulars. A hypocritical(and hypercritical) one too!
    • rocke86, on 08/15/2008, -5/+21Their contracts expired.
      • Hortnon, on 08/15/2008, -5/+4I C WAT U DID THAR

        Idiots are always so clever...
    • brad3378, on 08/15/2008, -4/+5To be honest, I'm kinda bummed out to see that he's gone.
      I've had a lot of great debates with JCM267 over the past year or two.

      RIP bro.
    • simplyintricate, on 08/15/2008, -1/+9He got banned..
    • ssn697, on 08/15/2008, -1/+6Weird? You mean like your other 3 accounts, Cattleprod? Nothing like a little hypocrisy for dinner, eh boy?
  • kingofinternet, on 08/14/2008, -97/+20paultard circle jerk central

    beware false prophets you weakminded children
    • DonKarnage25, on 08/14/2008, -6/+18You, sir, are clearly not the king of the internets.
    • thecoolestguy, on 08/15/2008, -3/+9princessofstupid, Paul's prophecies are coming true.

      Beware the false prophets of neoconservatism and socialism.
      • goosegoosegoose, on 08/15/2008, -2/+3I think DonKarnage25's comment can apply to your name too
    • funkyloki, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1It wasn't a prophecy, you moron. RP was able to look at current events, and extrapolate what was going to happen as a result. He is a very intelligent person. I'm quite sure that others saw this to, but did not have the same forum that Dr. Paul enjoys, therefore he was the one who got the message out.
      And it was 100% correct. You make absolutely no sense when you make claims about false prophecies in reference to something that is patently NOT false. Thank you for revealing the true depths of your ignorance; the rest of us are all the better for it. Harp on, harpie!
  • Jenadae, on 08/14/2008, -60/+103No offense to Paul but the tension between Russia and Georgia has been quite obvious.
    • dball48, on 08/14/2008, -8/+77He wasn't pointing out that there was tension between Georgia and Russia, he was pointing out that Russia could use the whole "War on Terror" mentality as an excuse to invade Georgia.
      • bacon_skoda, on 08/15/2008, -1/+14you mean like china is using the war on terror to hit back at the Uyghur people in western china?
        Russia is also calling genocide on Georgia.
        I can't see the blocked video, but did paul predict that too? because every freakin war from now on is a genocide or a war on terror!!
      • Berkana, on 08/15/2008, -0/+6Point and counterpoint, for your consideration:
        Didn't Georgia start hostilities by invading South Osstetia? At the same time, the Georgians assert, with good evidence, that the Russians have been building up their forces near Georgia for a long time leading up to now, and that their invasion and truce breaking is part of a bigger plan.
      • bacon_skoda, on 08/15/2008, -1/+2the us anti missile shield in poland is also getting tensions up on russia vs the west. russia feels a nato creep towards russia. to them this is probably like a cuba missile crisis.
        now i'm all setup to be a prophet in 5 years on digg.

        (for the white house press speaker on digg, that was during the kennedy administration)

      • seanof, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3The problems is that what he said is not what happened. There was no preemptive invasion.
      • svendm, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Yes, only they didn't. Sorry, but Russia's invasion of Georgia was not justified by a 'first strike'-doctrine kind of argument.

        It was justified by NATO's bombing of Serbia and subsequent occupation of Kosovo, which ultimately led to the USA recognizing Kosovo as an independent state earlier this year.

        Russia and Serbia are close allies, in case you missed it. Your average russian doesn't give a damn about Iraq, OTOH.
    • ptsuk, on 08/15/2008, -17/+7Exactly. Its like saying "There will be trouble in the Middle East! and Israel will be at its center and is using (insert adj here) to (defend/attack) against the (insert group here)

      not like he's Nostradamus.

      buried.
    • TomustPain, on 08/15/2008, -5/+30I think you've missed the point entirely! Nobody is saying that this was magical portent... The point here was about PREEMPTIVE STRIKE policies!
    • Hangly, on 08/15/2008, -5/+15The fact that only Dr. Paul can recognize the obvious really says something, doesn't it?
      • m0neybags, on 08/15/2008, -11/+2That must be why he dropped out.
    • u8eR, on 08/15/2008, -1/+38The dispute between Georgia and Russia has been longstanding, but now Russia can go in and invade the country while saying "Hey, you did the same thing." That's Paul's argument.
      • bacon_skoda, on 08/15/2008, -1/+2this was known when we invaded iraq. what else is new?
      • KMye, on 08/15/2008, -1/+5They haven't said that, though...
      • u8eR, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1It's precisely what they are doing though. They went in under the pretense of genocide or at least brutality in the separatist regions, invading the sovereign nation of Georgia with preemptive attacks. This is very reminiscent of the United States during the invasion of Iraq.
    • kaelyiesta, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1WTFV(video equivalent of RTFA). Either you have a very low IQ or more likely you didn't watch the video. That's not the point he addresses at all.

      Please comment only after knowing what you are commenting about.
  • abran1984, on 08/14/2008, -76/+3IF YOU CLICK THE RED BUTTON ALL OF YOUR WORST NIGHTMARES WILL COME TRUE
    • DeathJux, on 08/14/2008, -1/+10You lied to me. :(
    • TheDHC, on 08/15/2008, -0/+8Actually my friend just called to say he found my wallet. ***** you false prophet
    • JulioChavez, on 08/15/2008, -0/+4... the red button being the republican one in the voting booth
  • damian7, on 08/14/2008, -76/+5I hate Ron Paul-tards and all the idiots associated with his movement BUT,

    Wow.
    • shawnolds, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3That's because you have your blinders on. If you remove the blinders it's a lot easier to see what is actually happening, instead of what they (NeoCons) want you think is happening. I am not suggesting that one party is better then another, but that we need elect people that are acting on behalf of the people, not corporations. If we elect people that are acting on behalf of corporations we will eventually get Fascism. If we elect people that are acting on behalf of the people then we will get to keep our Republic. It's really that simple.
  • mbelleghem, on 08/14/2008, -21/+223Who's this guy? He looks familar.

    *cough*

    two party system = fail
    • ZenMojo, on 08/15/2008, -0/+7Run off system FTW
    • anthonyvsshark, on 08/15/2008, -0/+3i'd go as far as to say it's a pretty epic fail.
    • dillibob, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4isnt he a republican?
      • breezytrees, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2No, he's not republican. In our system, either you are democrat, republican, or useless. He chose to not be useless.
      • DefaultGen, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2No... No, he is a republican.
    • Stonekeeper, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2It's called divide and conquer
  • JJ2K1, on 08/14/2008, -18/+117How many times can "I told you so" be said until people wake up and pay attention?
    • TritonX, on 08/14/2008, -1/+25Until it's too late.
    • maximoo2, on 08/15/2008, -1/+5Most people are 'awake' but aren't willing do actually do anything about it. I'd guess out of all the RP supporters in these comments (myself included) have any of use tried to get involved in the political system or tried to support him financially, or through canvassing?

      Its sort of too easy to write angry comments on some dark corner of the internet.
      • SatoriSeeker, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4We ALL need to run for office ourselves if anything is to happen. As voters we make up too small a percentage, if we were in power we could be a formidable voice.
      • sajorojas, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1I canvassed for him several times in the freezing January-February months. All for naught I suppose
    • vbullinger, on 08/15/2008, -0/+5Until it directly affects them. Until then, you're a "conspiracy theorist."
  • Rusticles, on 08/14/2008, -34/+18Ron Paul rocks, if he had a touch more charisma he would be President
    • KennMac, on 08/15/2008, -0/+10How much charisma do you want? What, being one of the few with the balls to stand up in congress against the garbage that gets passed, isn't charismatic enough for you?

      I think it's the media and much of the American population that is lacking charisma.
      • Rusticles, on 08/15/2008, -4/+3Really? Am I the only person to think this then?... I agree with everything he stands for, but whenever he talks he sounds so whiny.
      • beckleyc, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1completely disagree. Kenn is right, Ron Paul is always the one that argues against things he thinks are wrong. I believe it was the Patriot Act where he was the ONLY ONE in the senate to vote Nay. How is that for charisma?
      • funkyloki, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Actually, it is not charisma that Paul displays as much as it is courage. Courage to stand up for what he believes in, even if it is not what is popular or prevalent. He is one brave mofo!
        But Rusticles is right, he is not very charismatic, and a lot of what he says goes right over the heads of most people.
        I am a fan of Ron Paul, but at the same time I do face reality.
    • kaelyiesta, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1So ***** sad, but you're probably right: the US voters are influenced by more than policy. In fact, policy is often the last thing truly considered.
  • GregIsLegend, on 08/14/2008, -18/+135Whoa... I have to say, kudos to Ron ***** Paul.
    • Filipp0, on 08/15/2008, -5/+3Really? I thought Ron was an ***** for doing that.
    • ismellfunny, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Greg..Now this is one of those statements that could be taken out of context and have bad results.
  • RedPhalanx, on 08/14/2008, -20/+250Hindsight is 20/20. For Ron Paul, so is foresight.
    • zephyr42, on 08/14/2008, -1/+46He was spot on about iraq too back in 2001, why isn't he president?



      A: because he would be *awesome*
    • bacon_skoda, on 08/15/2008, -23/+3did ron paul predict his demised in the primary?
      • KennMac, on 08/15/2008, -2/+14No, but I predicted trolls like yourself would be present in this thread.
      • nofrickenway, on 08/15/2008, -0/+14I think he did. He always said he never expected to win, anyway.
      • xaxxon, on 08/15/2008, -0/+8I'm sure he could have. He's not a neo-con and there's no conservative party anymore.
      • senatorpjt, on 08/15/2008, -0/+11Yeah, he did. He always talked about how surprised he was at the level of support.
      • swiftekho, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1I believe he did predict it from the start. The fact that he is taking 10,000+ supporters to Minnesota for the GOP convention just shows though that the primary wasn't his demise but actually his saving grace. Without the primaries he would never have gotten as much attention in debates, Digg, or other blog sites.

        Hell look at the ***** he stirred up in Nevada.
  • kalvinb, on 08/14/2008, -33/+17http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/ ...

    Speaking about Chechnya in an appearance at Arizona State University in 1999, McCain said: "The mindless slaughter is being conducted by a Russian military that seeks to reassert itself not only in the former Soviet Union but also to extend its reach throughout what used to be the former Soviet Union in an attempt to fold back into the Russian empire those countries that have broken away from it, most notably Georgia."

    And, in the memorable South Carolina primary debate in 2000, McCain offered grave skepticism about the new Russian leader, referring to Putin as an "apparatchik."

    ----

    McCain warned about this type of thing in 1999. Georgia finally gave Russia a reason to attack.
    • DonQueso, on 08/14/2008, -12/+10so ron paul is "sharp as a tack", "has 20/20 foresight" and is the greatest man alive for predicting this in 2002.....and this post has -2 diggs as of this writing. again proving that most of these people refuse to listen to anything other than what matches their thinking.



      • kaelyiesta, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1You missed the point completely. What McCain addresses is what had already happened and obvious. Paul spoke of the dangers that had not come to fruition until more recently.

        McCain: warns of present(at that time) imperialist behaviors that could extend to a former USSR satellite that everyone knew russia wanted back.
        VS
        Paul: warns of a growing sentiment in this country that its ok if we use preemptive force, claiming it sets a precedent that not only erodes our own constitution and the rule of law, but removes compunctions from other nations to behave similarly. This comes true as terrorism becomes a shield to allow all manner of brutality.

        Personally, I wouldn't bury a post that provides more information, but there is no comparison. Perhaps you shouldn't comment on other peoples inability to listen to anything that doesn't match their thinking, it makes you look hypocritical.
    • Chrispyc1211, on 08/14/2008, -2/+8Alaska would be part of recreating that old empire, right?

      This is so clearly NOT what's happening. Yes, Russia's taking advantage of the situation to cripple Georgia, but they don't have Tzarist fantasies.
      • kalvinb, on 08/14/2008, -2/+1McCain specifically mentioned Georgia.

        You have to start somewhere.

        Seeing as Alaska is part of the US now I don't see them trying to get that back anytime soon.
      • TrueXtremeIcon, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2Russia didn't lose Alaska. They sold it. Sold it for pennies on the acre (literally), but still...they sold it.
    • WiseWeasel, on 08/15/2008, -3/+5The insightful part of Paul's speech is that he foresaw our Preemptive Strike doctrine being the catalyst for this behavior on the part of Russia. If the US wasn't mired in the Iraq war, and if we didn't have the hypocrisy of calling Russia out for the invasion when we did the same thing in Iraq hanging over our heads, then we would have had troops deployed in Georgia to help "peace-keep" before you can say 'regime change'. Saying Russia wants to take back Georgia is obvious. Saying that by preemptively invading Iraq, we're giving Russia every excuse they need to invade Georgia, on the other hand, was insightful and relevant at the time. One example was political grandstanding to college students with catchy rhetoric, the other was a timely warning delivered when our Congress could have done something to actually change the situation.
      • kalvinb, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1Russia didn't have a "pre-emptive" strike. They (over) responded to Georgian agression. Some level of response was justified. What Russia did has everything to do with a long standing desire to take back Georgia and zero to do with recent US history.
  • AeroMerde, on 08/14/2008, -32/+10Ron Paul is right in that Russia were stupid assholes about this whole thing, and hypocritically try (failing, obviously) to liken this to Iraq. I don't see what's so amazing about this. There's no "I told you so" here.
    • xaxxon, on 08/15/2008, -2/+2You, sir, are a troll.
    • RationalXubrnce, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4 You're right this is nothing like Iraq, Russia was way more justified in their invasion then we were.
  • stagmire, on 08/14/2008, -40/+16A month ago Ron Paul's retards were telling everyone to buy gold at $1000/oz.

    A month later gold is trading at $799/oz.

    Thank god I don't follow investment advice from Ron Paul's retards.
    • DonKarnage25, on 08/14/2008, -3/+13Yeah.. good thing you didn't take the advice of retards.

      Because people like you prefer to listen to those folks who tell you that the economy is on the rebound and that the housing market will fix itself.
      • stagmire, on 08/14/2008, -7/+3There are plenty of people who acknowledge that the economy is in the ***** and yet do not buy Ron Paul's mindless rants about gold. Good thing too, since large cap emerging market index funds still beat commodities by a healthy margin.

        Ron Paul's followers are mostly teenage poors with no stake in the game. It's easy for pimply video game addicts who have never taken econ 101 to think they suddenly understand finance on the basis of a video they saw on youtube. Most people with investments worth protecting know that Ron Paul is full of *****, although a minority are probably losing their shirts on his unsound theories. Everytime I hear one of these AM talk radio ads for some stupid gold fund I'm reminded of PT Barnum's aphorism about suckers.
      • HotBaconSauce, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Spoken like a true Keynesian stagmire. If you take econ 101 you get stupider.
    • obsolite, on 08/14/2008, -2/+2Agreed. I honestly thought about buying a few ounces in the beginning of July when those banks failed but then I came to my senses and realized I was taking investment advice from Digg. Thank god.
      • stagmire, on 08/15/2008, -3/+1At its height, gold in 2008 was still worth far less in real dollars than it was in the early 80s. Anyone who advocates gold as a long term investment should be shot in the face.
    • bacon_skoda, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3...and it would have worked too if it weren't for you...you...
      meddling kids...
    • senatorpjt, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4Gold isn't a short-term investment. You can't look at the price of gold over a month, look at the price over 10 years. I guarantee even the people who bought it at $1000/ounce will be ahead in 10 years.
      • stagmire, on 08/15/2008, -2/+2The thing is, people who bought any plain vanilla index fund will be even FURTHER ahead, especially if they bought a month ago when Ron Paul's fan club was a hootin and hollerin for gold.

        Look at the 20 year averages - the long term return on gold is pathetic. The US stock market has averaged 7% annual growth since the 1930s. Gold has averaged 5%. That means a portfolio of random stock picks beats gold. A monkey picking stocks could beat gold.
      • 30somethinDad, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1Gold is a hedge against inflation. It is not an investment. You can hold it in your hand, and no one can take it, and it will hold it's value over time. It always has.

        I choose not to live in your imaginary world of credit and intangible investments. Nor the hedonistic materialism. I do not owe anyone anything. I own the the property I have and I save for the future. I am right with God. I am not a slave.
        stagmirestagmire, you are a slave and your future is in something else's care, which happens to be inherently evil; business, money and greed.
        Smart. Have fun getting robbed.
      • stagmire, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1"Gold is a hedge against inflation. It is not an investment."

        Care to explain the difference, Charles Schwab? Any return that exceeds the rate of inflation is a "hedge" against inflation. So while any old dumbass can beat inflation with a Fidelity Spartan index fund is earning 7%, you're going to brag about how you're earning 5% with gold? Stocks are just anothe form of currency. You think gold has some extra intrinsic value because it's metal?

        "Have fun getting robbed."

        I'm not the one who's portfolio lost 20% in the last MONTH, chump. Maybe 30somethingDad ought to think about how he's blowing his kid's future college fund on some fraudulent investment scheme pimped by greasy fly-by-night gold "funds" run out of a basement in Oklahoma.
    • WiseWeasel, on 08/15/2008, -0/+4There's a difference between Paul's own policy stances, and the scare tactic posts we've seen on Digg from gold retailers using Paul's name recognition to sell gold. Paul had absolutely zero to do with those spammers telling diggers to buy gold, and so his credibility is not affected by them.
    • Draxius, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1The dollar is also stronger right now. I would suggest not investing in anything if your understanding of money is this shaky.
      • stagmire, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1"The dollar is also stronger right now."

        What do you mean by "also?" Did you think these were two distinct phenomena?

        " I would suggest not investing in anything if your understanding of money is this shaky."

        I don't think I'm the one whose understanding is "shaky" here.
    • DonKarnage25, on 08/18/2008, -0/+1You make some valid points, but you come off as a completely arrogant *****. Being an ***** makes everyone bury you before they even read what you actually have to say.
  • somberlaine, on 08/14/2008, -20/+136why in the hell this guy is not one of the leading candidates????
    • TVarmy, on 08/14/2008, -11/+25Because he didn't get far at all in the primaries?
    • BonersMilloy, on 08/14/2008, -15/+89Americans are stupid.
      • DonQueso, on 08/15/2008, -31/+1if they're your offspring, i'm sure they are.
      • Step1Mark, on 08/15/2008, -2/+4As a Libertarian ... I give you a thumbs up
      • bbqsalad, on 08/15/2008, -2/+1DonQueso, shut your stupid face.
    • DonQueso, on 08/14/2008, -27/+5because mccain predicted it in 2000? http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/ ... (thanks to kalvinb for the link)
      • JulioChavez, on 08/15/2008, -0/+56 times = too much. Goodbye forever you piece of *****.
    • richmomz, on 08/15/2008, -5/+34The mainstream media put on a full-court press to stop his candidacy from gaining legitimacy. If people were to realize en-masse how smart this guy is the current establishment in Washington would be thrown out in the street - and they can't have that!
      • MikeFallopian, on 08/15/2008, -11/+2More like a full-court press to give him maximum (and nearly always positive) publicity during November and December. Then the media saw that people overwhelmingly rejected his bizarre platform and he turned into a non-story. His embarrassing debate performances didn't help either.
    • nofrickenway, on 08/15/2008, -2/+21He's too busy figuring out important stuff to "have a beer with" you.
    • fenderbiz, on 08/15/2008, -3/+17too smart
    • hijohnmark, on 08/15/2008, -4/+12Because he doesn't run Crysis.
    • Mike754, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2he is too clever to be a president
    • qh4dotcom, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Watch this video...and then you will understand exactly why he is not one of the leading candidates

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zsr0UpVjoE
  • transitive, on 08/14/2008, -41/+37since when does making incredibly obvious predictive statements count as insightful?

    even a cursory understanding of Georgia/Russia history would make it clear to anyone that this type of conflict was inevitable.
    • DroogInPhoenix, on 08/15/2008, -3/+24Well let's see... He was right on what was going to happen to our economy, our housing bubble, our falling dollar, or loss of freedoms, everything he says is obvious, but why aren't people listening? because they are sheep.
      • MikeFallopian, on 08/15/2008, -11/+4No, people are turned off by two things. First, while Paul correctly identifies some problems, his solutions are simply foolish. The gold standard? Total withdrawal from the UN/NATO/WorldBank/etc? No troops stationed in places like Korea (deterrent to the north) or Germany (strategic location)? Pull out of NAFTA and scrap other free trade agreements? The second big turnoff is his supporters - fanaticism scares people off, and when you combine fanaticism with truthers and the Alex Jones crowd... disaster.
      • Tommyhawk, on 08/15/2008, -2/+3Yes the gold standard is foolish. What was Thomas Jefferson thinking I mean what an idiot.
      • zombiedepot, on 08/15/2008, -1/+2Someone's got their Fallopian tubes in a knot.
      • Strman, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1@Tommyhawk
        The gold standard is no longer feasible in the 21st century. All nations have switched to fiat money, and it would be an absolute disaster to switch back. Just because Thomas Jefferson supported the gold standard ~230 or so years ago doesn't mean that it is the solution to all of our current problems. I don't understand when people use the argument (or some variation upon), "our founding fathers thought of it so of course it'll work for us!"
      • Sk00L, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1Strman maybe you are right, then again it would have been the only thing to have kept the FED in check and not allowed the transfer of real wealth from the middle to the upper class in return for paper that worth a whole lot less now then it was in a very short period of time ago. I love being sold out and having a dollar that can be printed on demand to cover the top 1%'s agenda regardless of what it does to my wallet. (not)
    • RossDuprey, on 08/15/2008, -2/+18No one has a "cursory understanding of Georgia/Russia history".
    • centure7, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2You give congress way too much credit. They don't have simple common knowledge of geography, or of anything. Remember how a month after Al-Quaida called Saddam an infidel, congress was convinced Iraq was in bed with Al-Quaida? Well of course, all good couples call each other "infidel" and names like that (sarcasm!).
    • seadeus, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2I think you miss Ron Paul's point that we were providing the justification for the Russians to do want we all knew they wanted to do, we just made it easy.
  • lazerflesh, on 08/14/2008, -16/+31Impressive call.
    • L3MMY, on 08/15/2008, -2/+0Not really...Georgia and South Ossetia have been sparring for 10 years
  • xsquirrel378x, on 08/14/2008, -26/+12I like Congressman Paul ok but can someone point me to where the prophecy is in his statement here? All he talks about is a conflict between Russia and Georgia which isn't really news by any means
    • somberlaine, on 08/14/2008, -3/+10the point he is trying to make has less to do with Russia/Georgia but more about preemptive strikes.
      • xsquirrel378x, on 08/15/2008, -2/+1and that makes this even less relevent then. Russia was provoked to attack
      • WiseWeasel, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2And we're not offering any resistance because we'd easily be exposed as hypocrites. If we weren't in Iraq, we'd be deployed in Georgia right now as a peacekeeping force.
    • vtnerd, on 08/15/2008, -1/+5It's not news now, but he said it ~6 years ago.
    • bacon_skoda, on 08/15/2008, -1/+2because if it's not tagged as linux or apple, it doesn't exist.
  • nin8605, on 08/14/2008, -18/+149Ron Paul should've won the republican nomination. How we ended up with Mccain absolutely baffles me.
    • BESTenemy, on 08/14/2008, -2/+95McCain tells people what they want to hear, just as Obama does. A honest politician would have to tell things like they are - that there is no free lunch and no action without consequence. Our people don't like that. We've got the old generation that McCain caters to, that is used to getting services for nothing and we've got the new generation that believes in entitlement, yet wants a clean slate, not having to repay the debts generated by the predecessors. We've got 2 candidates that collectively resemble the two halves of ignorant majority of our citizens.
      • h3lx, on 08/15/2008, -0/+14goddamn that's depressing.
      • swiftekho, on 08/15/2008, -1/+2If only people believed in personal responsibility these days. Before you know it, the government will be brushing our teeth for us.
      • triclipse, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Well said my man.
      • ZombieKiss, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Well ***** said. I would dig you 100 times if I could.
    • richmomz, on 08/15/2008, -1/+19Bought and paid-for media + population that expects media to make choices for them = neocon win.
    • ChristNewsWatch, on 08/15/2008, -1/+8Ummmm, Diebold. lol
    • senatorpjt, on 08/15/2008, -2/+14Because Ron Paul doesn't know how to be a politician. If he had kept his "final" goals to himself (e.g. getting rid of the IRS/Fed/etc) and just suggested incremental changes towards them he'd probably have done a lot better.
      • moxley, on 08/15/2008, -0/+14He's been very clear about the fact that he wouldn't just "get rid of the IRS and Fed right away...

        I also think that most people would welcomes being rid of the IRS and they would certainly welcome the Fed being gone if they even understood what the Fed was, how it works and how it got where it is.

        What you really mean, is that you think he would do better if he was a wishy-washy lying sack of ***** who tells people fairy tales that they want to hear like every other douchey politician - well, he tells it like it is, is honest, and that is why people who have brains generally like Ron Paul.

        I don't agree with him on every single issue, but on the ones which matter to me most (like the constitution, gun rights, foreign policy, states rights, personal freedom..he gets high marks on all of those from me.
      • Myonosken, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1@moxley: Thats the main issue- he has too many ***** supporting him who screw up his policies. Apparently every issue will be resolved by Ron Paul, including, on one occasion, third world hunger. Had he not had so many people praising him like the messiah he would have stood better under scrutiny. I mean the guy would be far better than McCain, but we were told he was some sort of messiah rather than a good politician, so he always looked negative when you listened to what HE actually said rather than his supporters.
    • qh4dotcom, on 08/15/2008, -0/+9Watch this video...and then you will understand exactly why McCain got elected instead of Ron Paul

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zsr0UpVjoE
      • GoodWyfe, on 08/15/2008, -0/+5THIS.

        Sad as it is, I really like that video as it nicely sums up the past two presidential elections, at least. Idiotic voters.
      • qh4dotcom, on 08/16/2008, -0/+1Glad to hear that you liked the video...it would be a good idea to pass it around on your Digg comments
    • shawnolds, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2It's called Media blackout on non corporatist candidates.
  • stagmire, on 08/14/2008, -40/+31You mean he observed a decade-long military buildup in Georgia/Ossetia, heightened tensions between Russia and Georgia over the status of that territory, and concluded that it was ripe for conflict? BRILLIANT!!! Ron Paul is evidently no dumber than anyone else who paid any attention to developments in the region! Who knew!?
    • dball48, on 08/15/2008, -4/+20I guess it would be too much to ask that you actually watch the video before commenting on it. He isn't predicting a conflict between Russia and Georgia, he's predicting the justification Russia will use to invade Georgia (Terrorists).
      • stagmire, on 08/15/2008, -10/+2I guess it would be too much to ask you to read my post, since I didn't claim he predicted any such thing.

        "he's predicting the justification Russia will use to invade Georgia (Terrorists)."

        Great, so Ron Paul and I apparently watched the same Terry Gilliam movies in the mid-eighties.
    • porter, on 08/15/2008, -2/+0This was less prediction and more current events... We were in the middle of it, too.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/feb/22/usa.ch ...
  • dzhastin, on 08/14/2008, -29/+15Ron Paul is no genius. Get over yourselves.

    This has been brewing for years and nobody who follows foreign affairs is the least bit surprised. Russia has been saying for years that if the international community pushed on Kosovo, they would push back on Abkhazia and Ossetia.
  • baltar2008, on 08/14/2008, -27/+10I want to have sex with Ron Paul. RON PAUL!
  • ghostrc, on 08/14/2008, -9/+83Ghost Recon did it a year earlier
    • jcsoc, on 08/14/2008, -0/+17exactly
      • bacon_skoda, on 08/15/2008, -1/+25Why isn't Ghost Recon running for president?
    • Hangly, on 08/15/2008, -1/+15Tom Clancy is another sharp guy. Too bad he's not in congress.
      • swiftekho, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1Haha that would be funny. EVERY MOMENT WOULD BE A CRISIS.
    • InSectWar, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4Welcome to Tbilisi gentleman.
      • Skooma714, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1That was stuck in my head years after wards.
    • CavalierEternal, on 08/15/2008, -2/+3Scott Mitchell Revolution!

      Plus he's got those cool glasses where he can see his enemies, the red diamonds.
      • Skooma714, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Before his time. We're talking about the original.
    • Skooma714, on 08/15/2008, -2/+1I started playing it again after all this started.
    • HUKI365, on 08/15/2008, -2/+3So did Splinter Cell.

      Tom Clancy is (was, before Red Rabbit) a genius.
  • Chrispyc1211, on 08/14/2008, -20/+8You'd have to be a retard to think that nothing would happen there. Georgia is an outpost of capitalist ideology (whether that's good or bad) pushed RIGHT up next to Russia. Sprinkle in some separatist regions, and it's a powder keg with a cute fuse sticking out.
    Would this turn into such a circle jerk if someone other than Paul said it?
    • mediaspree, on 08/15/2008, -4/+1Paul has celebrity on the Internet (at least on digg). Would anyone care what Angelina Jolies babies look like if she wasn't a celebrity?
    • Kishoba, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2Wow - you are one of the most ignorant people in the world.
  • BonersMilloy, on 08/14/2008, -20/+69We can still write him in!
    • AAK15, on 08/15/2008, -11/+1sure why not waste a vote. it's only one vote, that could never actually matter...
      • simplyintricate, on 08/15/2008, -0/+9You waste a vote when you don't vote for what you believe in.
    • juankovo, on 08/15/2008, -1/+15Writing him in won't do any good unless Ron Paul registers as a write-in candidate in your state, which he probably won't do. Even then, you have to write in Ronald Earnest Paul -- votes for "Ron Paul" won't be counted. If he doesn't register as a write-in candidate, then your votes will simply be thrown out.

      If Ron Paul isn't on the ballot, show the Republicans they don't have your vote if they put up non-Republican candidates by voting for an acceptable third-party candidate like Chuck Baldwin or Bob Barr. This shows the GOP that you are a voter that they need to please. If you vote Dem or don't vote or waste a vote on an uncounted write-in, the GOP will not know they need to win you back.
      • BTConan, on 08/15/2008, -0/+8What is this civility on digg? Thank you for the informative response. You've saved my vote from being wasted.
  • stutimandal, on 08/14/2008, -17/+11Ron Paul is great. I wish a miracle happens and he becomes the next president.
  • AssJuice, on 08/14/2008, -18/+65How is this man not the nominee? he clearly wipes the floor with all other candidates.
    • L3MMY, on 08/15/2008, -12/+3It's a simple thing called votes. He didn't get them, but as a consolation price, he now has a horde of misinformed internet voters. Let's just hope Spore doesn't drop on voting day.
    • mike17032, on 08/15/2008, -14/+2Because he is a fringe nutball who only has the support of retards on digg.
    • rich6985, on 08/15/2008, -0/+2because of dick wads like mike17032 and L3MMY who suck their thumbs all day and drink kool-aid...as the world around them is crumbling...
  • Egroh08, on 08/14/2008, -26/+7Hey, I've got a better one:

    Scientists think that one day the sun will eventually burn out! Now, ponder that one when it happens in a few billion years!
    • dafragsta, on 08/15/2008, -2/+6It just sucks when someone else is right huh? Don't talk to me, look at the score board.
    • qh4dotcom, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Nobody will be alive when that happens
  • lethalkungfu, on 08/14/2008, -14/+6Called it!
  • Tallon, on 08/14/2008, -22/+61Holy *****. Ron Paul for president!
  • chrisbosh123, on 08/14/2008, -11/+100I think it's time for America to listen to this guy instead of treating him as an outcast of the republican party.
    • AAK15, on 08/15/2008, -11/+1Until they read his bat ***** insane retard ideas then everyone can go back to treating him like he is and should be. Ignored!
      • swazo, on 08/15/2008, -1/+5I agree dude. Did you hear about that time the dumb ***** warned about some lame war between Russia and Georgia and some *****?

        wait...
      • bbqsalad, on 08/15/2008, -1/+1can you name any of these AAK15? Any bad ideas? or are you simply a dumb pig? Oh wait you're 17.
  • Soniti, on 08/14/2008, -31/+19God Damn. They haven't even had the election for the next President, and Ron Paul is ALREADY back on Digg... Jesus.
  • calebian, on 08/14/2008, -10/+88What I wouldn't give to see this man become president
  • humanerror, on 08/14/2008, -21/+124If the USA was a democracy, Ron Paul would be president.
    • Kenzan, on 08/15/2008, -15/+7Maybe if we wish really hard and tap our toes three times together, he'll be back in the running.
    • Pake, on 08/15/2008, -26/+6If by democracy, you mean a country where only whites could vote considering his bigoted history...
      • Sabin8, on 08/15/2008, -3/+7If by bigoted history you mean the one you are fabricating...
      • Notasheeple, on 08/15/2008, -3/+3That was lame Pake.
      • JaseFace, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1You're absolutely right. He wants to deport all 12 million illegal immigrants. That's just insanity and bigotry.
    • maximoo2, on 08/15/2008, -3/+26Unfortunately a democracy usually means that the people who get in control of the government aren't the best governors and statesmen, they are the best showmen.

      Just think in highschool -- its the really popular guy that becomes school president. But like a nerdy, unselfish guy would probably do better in the role. --(not to say if you are popular those other traits are mutually-exclusive...but I'm just saying, running for government is not like taking a test and the person with the highest marks and most ability wins. )
    • CavalierEternal, on 08/15/2008, -3/+7If America had a weak point, Ron Paul would be massive damage
    • ceredron, on 08/15/2008, -4/+16Uh... Sorry, but no he wouldn't? He's in no place to be the popular guy. If the USA was a pure democracy, Al Gore would have been president, and quite honestly, a lot of things would be just about the same.
      • humanerror, on 08/15/2008, -1/+4Funny how you can't even _imagine_ a democracy without a restricted 2-party system.
      • Myonosken, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1@humanerror: Most other countries do quite well. The UK does quite well- we have periods of Consv vs Labour, but on many occasions its far more level. Sure it usually comes down to three parties, but everyone knows there are other parties and some areas have big independents support or support for regional parties eg, SNP, Plaid Cymru.
    • AHippie, on 08/15/2008, -1/+28No, if the USA were a DIGGocracy, Ron Paul would be president.
    • AAK15, on 08/15/2008, -10/+2HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAH FAIL
    • shawnolds, on 08/15/2008, -1/+3The USA is not a Democracy, it's a Republic which limits the rule by mob problem from occuring. i.e. why our founding fathers chose it instead of a Democracy, among other reasons. Don't believe me then recite the Pledge of Allegiance to your self. "and to the republic for which it stands".
  • JasonCox, on 08/14/2008, -44/+12Buried as 'Ron Paul Spam'.
  • kolyana, on 08/14/2008, -10/+40You know, if the republicans had this guy running against Obama, I'd be okay with either guy winning; he's leagues ahead of McCain in every respect.
    • jdutil, on 08/15/2008, -0/+15He is more what our country needs than Obama though. We need a true republican to cut the fat in our pig of a budget.
    • brentonk, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Unless you are concerned solely with the war in Iraq to the exclusion of all other other foreign and domestic policies (abortion, the Federal Reserve, U.N. participation, taxes, etc.), I am not really sure how you could be OK with either one winning. They have rather divergent political philosophies.
  • seltaeb4, on 08/14/2008, -33/+9RON PAUL!!! YEAH!!!

    from the Ron Paul Newsletter files:
    "A Special Issue on Racial Terrorism" analyzes the Los Angeles riots of 1992: "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began. ... What if the checks had never arrived? No doubt the blacks would have fully privatized the welfare state through continued looting. But they were paid off and the violence subsided."

    .
    • Pake, on 08/15/2008, -13/+2Gotta love the Ron Paul mindless drones digging you down.
    • four5, on 08/15/2008, -2/+8Literally the only dirt that someone can try and get on Ron Paul, and if you do more than just read a right wing blog and actually research the topic you will see this is not the case. Also Walter Williams as V.P. when asked?
      • Pake, on 08/15/2008, -4/+2The only dirt? You mean, besides his obvious racism, you don't consider his views on essentially removing our right to freedom of religion by allowing schools to dictate whether or not there is a mandatory prayer session, his refusal to remove "God" from the Pledge of Allegiance even though it was not in the original Pledge, and by voting against for the Defense of Marriage Act and then having the nerve to vote for the Marriage Protection Act, which directly violates the Constitutional to the extreme by barring judges from hearing any cases relating to the DoMA. Oh, and let's not even start to talk about his "We the People Act" which would be a complete bitchslap to every single American alive by going above and beyond what the Bush Administration has already done to us.
    • DroogInPhoenix, on 08/15/2008, -1/+8You really believe HE wrote that?
      • seltaeb4, on 08/15/2008, -7/+2No, I don't believe that he wrote that.

        But it went out with his NAME on it.

        If Ron Paul doesn't even bother to check out stuff written under a masthead bearing HIS OWN DAMN NAME, how can you think he'd be a suitable President?

        Never mind—PLEASE don't answer that, because one of you out there will, and it will be as tiresome as every single other one of these "Beer Hall Putsch" comments.
    • angrynorwegian, on 08/15/2008, -3/+10Man, you guys are desperate.
    • qh4dotcom, on 08/15/2008, -1/+2That happened too long ago to have any importance today.
  • bokep, on 08/14/2008, -24/+92Hold on here...

    Georgia started this attack, not Russia.
    • rocketman42, on 08/15/2008, -11/+21Thank you, there was no preemptive strike by Russia. Although they did completely overreact, they didn't do what Paul was warning about.
      • DonQueso, on 08/15/2008, -13/+4you two are morons. please explain how georgia "started it". and then explain since they're completely dominating the georgian forces why it's necessary to leave south ossieta and move further into georgia? wasn't this a "humanitarian mission" by russia? a peace keeping mission?

        http://dealbreaker.com/2008/08/qa_on_wtf_is_going_ ...

        i'm sure you wont read it because it differs with what you believe, but that doesn't surprise me. Ron paul's a hero for saying something John McCain said 2 years earlier. when someone points that out, they get buried.
      • TomustPain, on 08/15/2008, -7/+5explain why you can't spell South Ossetia correctly and still have the gall to call others morons?
      • rocketman42, on 08/15/2008, -0/+4I'd say you're the moron, Mr Queso. Did YOU actually read that link. I'll quote from the incredibly intelligent questioning:

        2. No, really -- Who started it? Who can we blame when we're talking about it at a cocktail party trying to impress people with how much we know?
        JR: ... Arguably at Russian instigation, South Ossetian separatists provoked the Georgian army into invading them. This gave Russia the excuse to send its military and Black Sea fleet into first South Ossetia and then directly into Georgia and to declare war on Georgia.

        So, your own article states that Georgia "invaded" the South Ossetian separatists. For more evidence:

        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/world/europe/09g ...
        From page 2: "The trigger for the fresh escalation began last weekend, when South Ossetia accused Georgia of firing mortars into the enclave after six Georgian policemen were killed in t