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uk.youtube.com — A Dispatches documentary from May 2003 shows the shocking reality of seemingly ordinary Palestinians living under constant terror from Israeli 'occupation' forces. For some, life in Gaza can be a constant gauntlet of Israeli sniper fire, military rockets and army bulldozers. Warning, contains scenes of graphic violence which you may find disturbing

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  • Conspiracy20, on 06/23/2008, -48/+176The only true democracy in the Middle East and our trusted friends. It's not just the Gaza strip they're attacking.

    AIPAC Spy Nest Exposed
    New indictments implicate unnamed government officials and reporters
    http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=6890
    The attempted sinking of an American vessel.
    USS Liberty incident:
    http://www.wingtv.net/documentaries.html
    • hotlatte, on 06/24/2008, -37/+11If you thought that report was compelling, you should read these stories:
      http://digg.com/political_opinion/Britain_is_a_hot ...
      http://digg.com/world_news/A_sign_of_life_from_cap ...
      http://digg.com/people/Palestinian_Woman_Saved_by_ ...
      http://digg.com/world_news/Palestinian_victims_of_ ...
      http://digg.com/world_news/BREAKING_NEWS_Israeli_M ...
    • Betrayal, on 06/24/2008, -6/+46Waiting for the "YOU'RE AN ANTI-SEMITE!" comments
      • hotlatte, on 06/24/2008, -13/+2Well deserved comments at that.
        • OMGIAMTHEMAN, on 06/24/2008, -9/+5jews are to zionists are americans are to republicans. I love americans but I can't stand freaking republicans.
    • 911ArtStudent, on 06/24/2008, -6/+35Here's another link in case YouTube caves to Zionist pressure and pulls the video:
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5863204188 ...
      • DigDugDigger, on 06/24/2008, -4/+4Is YouTube not owned by Google? Or do the 2 sites have different policies?
      • ruddy, on 06/24/2008, -4/+2i'll proudly wear the title!
    • jabberwolf, on 06/24/2008, -34/+10Yeah like how masses listen to liars and how fed propaganda can bring hatred to a group just trying to live.

      Thanks to these "peace keepers" many suicide bombers have gone on to kill civilians at markets, pizza places, crowded bus stops.

      The British feeding this are with the Palestinians or ignorant and ,,,, as the Nazis demonstrated:

      Ignorance is no difference from evil = it begets the same results!


      LIBERTY story is created to feed hate to Americans created by palestinians that dont want you to read the USA investigative reports... where the USA repeatedly told the liberty to move away from shore because Israeli forces coud not be sure if it was Egypt flying a USA flag in an attempt to get closer.

      Liberty did not respond or receive calls from US command, they were fired upon. THESE are the facts from the USA military investigative team, as well as JAG.

      So you are saying you are willing to believe Palestinians that strap bombs on their children to kill in the name of their fallen pride, and lies trying to rewrite historical maps. Believe the Palestinians who's families are paid for children who blow themselves up as martyrs..

      Sorry but the American people are not as stupid as the Palestinians believe they are!
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      • ThickGreenPuke, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2for once, just once don't mention the Nazis!
    • KhanneaNL, on 06/24/2008, -11/+15I have no cultural affinity with palestinians. I positively LOATHE islam, and consider it a force for evil. I am very liberal very pro-democratic and westerner.

      But I HATE israel. I oppose military aid to Israel, as it keeps them addicted to use of force against a clearly weaker opponent. The unbridled military support from the US for Israel has become a cancer in this world eating away at peace itself.

      So I find myself unable to feel sympathy for either side. The palestinians respond to this crisis with nothing but bloody tribal banter and the Israeli have become gestapo hatchetmen, waging a genocide. All this has slipped miles beyond irony.
      • Micktion, on 06/24/2008, -10/+5Wow you managed to offend pretty much everyone then.

        Why single out Islam as a force of evil? Why not catholicism? You could pick a dozen things from the spanish inquisition, to nazi/mafia links to child molestation.

        My point is, no religion is evil, evil acts are carried out by individuals, not religions. To classify everyone of a certain religion as being under a force of evil is probably as bigoted as you can get.
        • GiggleStick, on 06/24/2008, -2/+2"My point is, no religion is evil..."

          What about Satanism?
        • 1gunners4, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3Taken as a whole, Christian countries do not completely oppress their population, partly due to the fact that most Christian countries at least attempt to maintain a secular government. The OIC, consisting of many of the "progressive" Islamic countries around the world, go so far as to try and institute international bans on religious mockery and still treat their women as sub-human.

          It isn't that Islam itself is to blame, it's that its proponents are stuck in the 12th century.
        • gutistg, on 06/24/2008, -0/+3Satanism is just humanistic nihilism with strong elements of psychodrama. Nothing evil or religious about it.

          Also, what's with all the crappy Palestine vs. Israel spam on digg?
        • Micktion, on 06/24/2008, -0/+3Staggering ignorance... I'm quite flummoxed.

          1gunners4: you obviously haven't been to malaysia an arabic country with the Petronas Twin Towers, which were for a long time the tallest buildings on the planet, you probably also haven't been to the UAE (another arabic country) which has the Burj tower the tallest building on the planet.

          The state of many countries in the middle east which as you say are stuck in the 12th century has NOTHING to do with islam. It has a lot to do with oil. It has been in the interest of numerous parties (most of whom are not muslim) to suppress the majority of people in the region with the aim of stealing their resources. If these countries weren't stuck in the 12th century then of course these resources would be the property of the common people, and the supply of oil would be subject to democratic processes!

          Think about it.
      • OMGIAMTHEMAN, on 06/24/2008, -0/+4I'm Muslim, and I more or less adhere to Islamic orthodox beliefs. I am not evil and I do not find that my religion compels me to evil. I think you're sadly misinformed and either you judge 1/6 of the world's population by the actions of a few madmen or you buy into the smear campaign waged against a society we just so happen to be at war with...
    • relmoreno, on 06/24/2008, -17/+111. Hamas are Terrorists, not a revolutionary group- its a fact (You know.... El-quaida style....) 2. Why do people hang around a war-zone anyway?? 3. Israeli-army Is NOT in Gaza anymore, Israeli were people evacuated from their home. 4.People get kill in wars- what to do... 5.Check the facts before listening to propaganda
    • relmoreno, on 06/24/2008, -15/+81. Hamas are Terrorists, not a revolutionary group- its a fact (You know.... El-quaida style....) 2. Why do people hang around a war-zone anyway?? 3. Israeli-army Is NOT in Gaza anymore, Israeli were people evacuated from their home. 4.People get kill in wars- what to do... 5.Check the facts before listening to propaganda
    • fx666, on 06/24/2008, -13/+8Damn Palestinians are launching rockets at Israel, they should blame the Israeli response on themselves. Every country has the right to defend itself. But the ***** Arab lovers think that this principle does not apply to Israel.
    • Smills, on 06/24/2008, -9/+3I have no idea why Bush is supporting Israel and attacking Iraq, etc. Maybe something to do with his religion? Both sides are just as bad as each other. Well actually Israel stole land, really, if anything, they are worse, yet the US sends them billions of dollars. I just don't understand it.
    • aeoo, on 06/24/2008, -3/+1"The only true democracy in the Middle East and our trusted friends. It's not just the Gaza strip they're attacking."

      This is no different from Blackwater, Aegis, and other PMCs shooting civilians rampantly, sometimes for fun. And then they even rape "their own" women that work with them.

      War is ugly. People keep saying "civilized army", but the truth is that armies are not 100% civilized. As the war drags on and as the feelings heat up, they use less and less restraint.

      Civilians are fair game in war. We can pretend otherwise, but reality shows us the truth. We should do our best to curb the practice of shooting civilians, but I don't think we can expect that practice to go away, especially in emotionally charged and protracted conflicts.
  • lazycat, on 06/23/2008, -36/+277This is insane. Feels almost like a sci-fi movie about some totalitarian future. Hard to believe it's their reality.
    • Carthagefield, on 06/23/2008, -13/+66If this is not evidence of occupational apartheid, I don't know what would be. The international community has set a terrible example by turning a blind eye to Israel.
      • yonoz, on 06/23/2008, -25/+8If anything, this is evidence that it isn't an apartheid - it deals with non-Palestinians who were killed.
        • Carthagefield, on 06/23/2008, -5/+21Apartheid is the segregation of two races, in this case the Israeli Jews and the Palestinians. An apartheid system wouldn't preclude anyone from visiting Palestinian areas, so what's your point noz?
        • pintomp3, on 06/24/2008, -4/+8even desmond tutu called it apartheid, i think i'll take his word over yours:

          http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/apr/29/commen ...
        • dkapuchino, on 06/24/2008, -4/+5Yep. Funny you should be dugg up for redifining the meaning of the word.
      • dkapuchino, on 06/23/2008, -19/+7You are aware of the fact that the shooting soldier, Taysir Hayb, is a **Muslim Arab Bedouin**, right?
        I don't recall Blacks in South Africa signing up, willingly, voluntarily, to the Army to fight against other Blacks. Do you?
    • Carthagefield, on 06/23/2008, -3/+25BTW lazycat, I agree with your remark. I should have prefaced my first post with that as the way it is it looks like I'm contradicting you (no sleep for 2 days doesn't help). The whole thing seems totally surreal, I find it hard myself to imagine what it must be like to actually live through that every day. Peace.
      • whiterice0, on 06/24/2008, -33/+6Indeed. It must be terrible to live through that every day. So, why doesn't Palistine stop its aggression against Israel? Seems to me they just keep asking for more, and more, and more. Their hatred never ends.
        • tharju, on 06/24/2008, -3/+8i hope i fuking kick you out from you house and live in it. don't worry you can still sleep in the backyard and I can even lend you my sleeping bag.
        • ManoWar, on 06/24/2008, -4/+2Palestine is used as tool for the Arab league that is why.
    • Vazel, on 06/24/2008, -4/+16Yea not just that but it's like when we see movies like that we think we'd know when something like that happens when we see it yet here we have Israel and most people(at least in USA) don't see Israel like that and see them as the righteous good guys. It's amazing how crap like that just sneaks up on you.
    • IdanE, on 06/24/2008, -19/+9Look, this ***** is bad, and I don't condone any sort of violence, but think about this, if you will: Imagine that some people living in a town close to your own decide that they have a big problem with your administration (and you may even agree with them). If it's easier, imagine 2 towns across a border. Now imagine that some of the people are militant, and decide that the best way to get what they want is by terrorizing civilians. At this point, they try smuggling bombs and try to detonate them in your city center at a time it's packed with people, and start shooting rockets at your town, even though you have no quarrel with them. Now, on top of that, imagine that they hide amongst the civilian population, and that population is backing them.

      I don't think that anyone who hasn't been at home while a rocket landed within spitting distance of his house can understand what it feels like. Israel is simply trying to protect civilians.

      If Hamas and the other orgs had any balls, they'd stop hiding behind civilians. Oh, but I forgot, they're TERRORISTS who don't care about collateral damages!

      These are the same people who send suicide bombers into malls on Purim (a holiday where kids dress up and have fun) at noon - a time they knew the places will be packed with children.

      It's a sad shame that civilians are being hurt, but keep in mind that Israel is willing to accept a Palestinian state, and accept most of their demands. If the Palestinians truly want peace - Build a country!

      I assure you all that most Israelis would love it if they stopped shooting rocket and if we, in turn, could reduce our military presence - it's our children dying there as well.

      The fact remains, after all is said and done, that Hamas and the other orgs still say that they do not acknowledge Israel's existence and will not rest until it, and all the people in it, are gone.

      The fact remains that Iran is backing them, and has repeatedly stated that its wishes to make Israel disappear.

      The fact remains that you don't respond according to the number of people they kill, but to the attacks - and if Israel took a real "proportional response" approach to them shooting dozens of rockets on some days, the response would be much more severe - Look at what any "western" country did when it came under attack.

      I know that those who think Israel is evil will keep thinking so - I sometimes do. But in the end, after all is said and done, When I used to go to school, I learned about the conflict, and about the occupation, and how we should find a way to resolve our differences, and about how we made mistakes. This was part of the syllabus. The kids in Gaza are tought about how Israelis and Americans are evil, and that they are an affront to Allah. When they come into school they have Israeli (and sometimes) American flags on the floor so the kids can step on them and spit on them.

      I'd love for peace to happen - it'll mean less death, less damage, it might give the Palestinians the chance at a goold life which they deserve, and it might give us the chance to focus on other things. But it's hard when the other side wants you dead.
    • time4evacuation, on 06/24/2008, -1/+13No, it's much worse than a movie. And it's all of Earth's reality.
    • dOOBiEx213, on 06/24/2008, -12/+1The only insane thing is the fact that some people would actually sit through 50 minutes of YouTube, I can hardly take 30 seconds... Seriously, squares changing colors for 50 mins? That alone can drive a man insane.
    • guygoldman, on 06/24/2008, -4/+5As a peace-seeking left-wing-Israeli - i strongly object to our country's war crimes (and to most of IDF's "legal" routine acts).

      nevertheless- for all of you living overseas- don't forget that this is a conflict, and like every conflict- this has 2 sides.

      terrorists attacking *from within* living neighborhoods, taking shelter behind civilians- are war crimes just as shooting a missile back at them.

      In short- what i'm saying is that you have to condemn BOTH sides. both are encouraging the violence, and both are using civilian suffering to promote their leader's personal and political interests.
      • Gutterpunk, on 06/24/2008, -3/+2I think that this is the point, everyone (with a brain) knows that we have to condemn BOTH side. Problem is when one of those sides received billions of "aid money" and free military equipment. Tell me how this is right when you look objectively at both sides of the conflict.

        The "hatred" toward Isreal doesn't come from people taking side, but from people who don't see why we should fund one of them so much.

        /That said, you'll get Digg down for being a "self loathing jew". Anti-Semite (ie : goys who talk against Isreal) and Self Loathing Jews (ie : Jews who talk against Isreal) aren't looked at kindly around these parts
        • sodade, on 06/24/2008, -2/+2I was about to digg you up until you spouted this disgusting nonsense:

          "That said, you'll get Digg down for being a "self loathing jew". Anti-Semite (ie : goys who talk against Isreal) and Self Loathing Jews (ie : Jews who talk against Isreal) aren't looked at kindly around these parts"

          To be an Israeli for peace is ***** brave.
        • IdanE, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1You know what? it's not brave- it's right.

          and, believe it or not, most Israelis are just like that - most of us just want to have peace.
          Problem is, that many are loosing their hopes... but hope is something that's pretty hard to kill
      • sodade, on 06/24/2008, -1/+2I would have dugg you up, but you use the label "terrorists" - by the definition of the word (and no the perversion that the US media accepts), both sides are terrorists.
    • neko6, on 06/24/2008, -8/+11Whether you choose to believe it or not, the documentary is 5 years old. 3 years ago the occupation in Gaza ended. I'm waiting for your praises to Israel for ending it despite the Palestinian violence.

      Praises to Israel in 3..2..1...
      • neko6, on 06/24/2008, -7/+7How surprising, getting dugg down.

        When Israel is accused of brutally occupying Gaza, its front page news. But when you're reminded that Israel ended that occupation years ago, suddenly those people who cared about Gaza stopped caring, and moved on the some other Israel bashing strategy.

        Your hate is consuming you. Israel will survive and continue to defend itself. You, on the other hand, will continue to suffer your own bigotry.
      • belovedkid, on 06/24/2008, -4/+4it would be hard for Israel to defend itsself if we took away all of that free money we dump into your corrupt hole you call a government. This is just me speaking, but I dont give a ***** about protecting Israel, they don't need our aid, their security corporations make enough to be taxed and support their little plot of land.

        Your race was on the recieving end of genocide in WW2, and now you carry out your own? What the ***** are you thinking?
    • thatashguy, on 06/24/2008, -7/+0I haven't watched the whole thing yet, I'm only a minute in, but, is it just me or does someone else get a nostalgic feeling of playing Rainbow Six? The chick who is doing the voice over so much like the lady who briefs you on the missions.

      Anyway, back to actually watching it.
      • thatashguy, on 06/24/2008, -0/+2wow, I really wish I could delete my comment now, I feel like an arsehole.
    • Naieve, on 06/24/2008, -1/+5Welcome to war.

      What, did you all think it was fun?

      People die.

      The Palestinians could take a lesson from the US Civil Rights movement of the 1960's, if they did this would be over.

      Habits are hard to break though.
    • JohnFromChicago, on 06/24/2008, -2/+6I fear that without a serious restoration of the Constitution, America will look like this too.

      http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
    • doublebummer, on 06/24/2008, -0/+2http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_re_mi_ea ...

      FTA: Palestinian militants on Tuesday fired three homemade rockets into southern Israel, the first such attack since a cease-fire between Israel and Gaza militants took effect last week

      The barrage wounded two people and capped a day of violence that presented the truce with its first serious test.
  • HuskyPuzzle, on 06/23/2008, -22/+120Really sad and powerful film. Even more sad, I don't see this conflict ending in peace within our lifetime.
    • whiterice0, on 06/24/2008, -30/+9I know. If only the Palestinians and Arab countries around it would stop attacking and threatening Israel, there would be a chance for peace.
      • martalli, on 06/24/2008, -4/+32Peace is a two way relationship.
        • solid12345, on 06/24/2008, -2/+6Correct, it is a TWO-way, not a three-way, not a four-way, not a five-way

          If Israel's neighbors would butt out of it's business it has with the Palestinians, peace might have been made by now.

          Why is it when violence is at a low or negotiations are made, a neighboring force like Hezbollah launches a kidnapping mission in Israel or Iran's clerics and president sabre rattles about how the Zionist entity will soon vanish?
      • PsychoDesigns, on 06/24/2008, -6/+9It's a bit hard to think about peace which your little sister is shot in the head while in class... It's easy for us to talk about peace sitting comfortably in front of our PCs. I'm Palestinian but I have no right to speak for Palestinians since I never had to live through this.
        • cawpin, on 06/24/2008, -5/+2"I'm Palestinian"

          No, you're not. Palestine is not a place, nor a nationality.
        • PsychoDesigns, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3Yes, It is a place and a nationality. Very little of that place is left after the Israelis took over the country, and it is a nationality in legal documents.

          It was tough, but I did manage to reply politely to your ignorant comment.
    • deevay, on 06/24/2008, -1/+4You must believe in the Yes.
    • bluezinc, on 06/24/2008, -5/+23Whenever I get into an arguement with a pro-Israel person about the situation in the Middle East I try to explain to them that, yes, Hamas is bad and should be punished, but that punishment shouldn't be carried out on innocent civilians in giant air raids and military strikes. The relatives and loved ones of those civilians then join up with anti-Israeli forces, blow up a car-bomb inside Israel, and then the whole process happens again.

      I always suggest that perhaps the next time Israel is attacked they can reach an agreement to send in an international police force to investigate and arrest the terrorists behind the attack instead of coming in and blowing the country to bits.
      • zerocool1990, on 06/24/2008, -1/+17Do you know how many UN Peacekeepers proposition were vetoed by the US ?
      • winampman2, on 06/24/2008, -7/+9And how is an international police force different from the Israeli military, in the eyes of Hamas? They will shoot back at the international police force just the same, causing collateral damage and civilian deaths.
        • bluezinc, on 06/26/2008, -0/+1Because the police force will not be a euphemism for giant ***** military force. It would be a small group of investigators most likely working with the UN or some such.

          Anyways, it's just an idea in an area where there seems to be a substantial lack of ideas.
      • akeldama, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3Bluezinc, your naivety is staggering.
        • bluezinc, on 06/26/2008, -0/+1And your condescension is disconcerting.

          I'm sorry, what is your amazing answer to this problem?
      • aeoo, on 06/24/2008, -0/+1"I try to explain to them that, yes, Hamas is bad and should be punished, but that punishment shouldn't be carried out on innocent civilians in giant air raids and military strikes"

        Ideally that's the case. But humans are frail creatures. When in a protracted conflict the moral restraint wears down. This is not only true of Israel, but of any army. Just look how "our" PMCs have behaved in Iraq. I think modern armies have a lot more restraint that those in the past that wouldn't even try to pretend or make excuses for killing and raping everything and everyone in sight. But as restrained as they are, they don't have flawless restraint. They also have feelings, including fear and hatred. They see journalists "fraternizing with the enemy" and in a flash of anger it's easy to pull that trigger.

        War is ugly. Good people do ***** up things in war.

        All this war was one escalation after another that grew over time. At some point people are born and they have to learn from history books why they are fighting. They are born and haven't even seen the beginning of the war, and in fact, even the books may not show them a complete picture. So they might fight, but they don't even know why they fight, except that their parents tell them it's right, because "they hit us last night", but the parents on both sides tell this to their children, and so the war drags on. This is why vengeance leads to an endless cycle of war. At some point it doesn't matter who started it. Both sides are right when they say "they hit us last night" and seemingly both sides have valid reasons to continue fighting.
    • STPZ, on 06/24/2008, -1/+8This conflict is but one of many; those that stem from these horrible crimes against humanity will be far worse and ever more escalating.

    • arobicha, on 06/24/2008, -2/+5I've stopped caring. The war over the "holy lands" is more a matter of home and vendetta than religion at this point. There's entirely too much persecution on both sides, and you'll hate whoever's in charge of the land solely because they'll treat the minority like *****. There's no moral high ground here because everyone's done something horrible to stay alive, and if you haven't yet, then you're on borrowed time. Some people just have to do something more horrible than others.

      I know I'm desensitized. But I have friends who have grandparents who live in Israel, and I have friends who have parents who live in "Palestine", and they came to Canada because we don't give a ***** what you believe here. We treat you like a human being: decently. And that's the only way it should be.
      • KhanneaNL, on 06/24/2008, -0/+4Yah. It's sicilian blood war, with modern postindustrial killing machines.
      • nickert0n, on 06/24/2008, -0/+1Dugg for my fellow Canadian.
    • KhanneaNL, on 06/24/2008, -7/+2You have a strong faith. However I see NO other possibility than a nuclear detonation in Israeli cities. I do not see what other option the radical islamist factions have other than a final solution, in 21st century style fast forward. Plus if I were them I'd make it several cities at the precise same instant and cripple Israel.

      After that, yah, you'll have peace.
      • Lucas123, on 06/24/2008, -0/+3Nah. After that, you'll have a glass factory where Palestine used to be.
    • leakus, on 06/24/2008, -0/+4Never give up hope. Germany and France used to be enemies for a long time. Every generation had its war. Today we are kissing each others asses . No, seriously, I really like France. Going to move there in september.
  • Carthagefield, on 06/23/2008, -17/+181Tom Hurndall, the British photography student who was shot in the head by an IDF soldier, never recovered consciousness and died seven months after the making of this film.

    Subsequently, IDF Sergeant Taysir al-Heib was found guilty of manslaughter and five other charges by a court martial and sentenced to eight years in a military prison.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hurndall
    • jabberwolf, on 06/24/2008, -24/+17Wow Israeli being tried by their own courts for nor following procedure in a war zone?

      You think Palestinians have such a system?
      • revisrev, on 06/24/2008, -8/+20Do you think Palestinians are able to have much of a system at all before it gets destroyed?

        How about Israel starts acting like a democracy concerned with human rights, since it is the one in this situation that is in a better condition to do so. Maybe after the Palestinians are able to form a state of their own then they can reciprocate. Israel acting in the manner that it does only keeps the cycle of violence going... and somehow their landmass just keeps growing and growing... almost as if Israel profits from the strife of the Palestinian people.
        • solid12345, on 06/24/2008, -4/+7Before it gets all destroyed? You seen photos of Gaza or West Bank lately? They are metropolitan cities with standing buildings, not rubble like propagandists would have us believe.
        • JirkJiggler, on 06/24/2008, -1/+1Photos vs photos, neither of which you can prove to be more credible than the other? Wtf kind of crap evidence is that? Try visiting there before talking again of something which you have no real knowledge.
    • charlatan, on 06/24/2008, -17/+6Sorry to COMPLETELY annihilate your arguement, but what about Abu-Grahib? Do the actions of one define a nations attitude? The reality is, people who hate Israel (especially non-palestinian haters) only make it a stronger nation. Comprehend the facts, don't be childish.
      • Vindexus, on 06/24/2008, -2/+2Argument? I thought he was just giving more information.
      • Gutterpunk, on 06/24/2008, -2/+2Your nick truly suits you...
    • brockpetrie, on 06/24/2008, -6/+8The story of James Miller is very similar to that of Tom Hurndall; he was killed by the IDF during an Israeli incursion into Gaza. I encourage everyone to watch James' film "Death in Gaza" - the documentary James was filming when he was killed - after they watch this.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_(filmmak ...
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_In_Gaza
      "While filming this movie, Producer / Director James Miller was killed as a result of gunfire from an Israeli army soldier. Miller's death came about after he and fellow crew members were attempting to approach an Israeli APC at night time, audibly and visibly suggesting their neutrality as journalists by wearing helmets and flak vests marked "TV", waving a white flag and walking slowly in the open."
      • neko6, on 06/24/2008, -7/+10Problem is, Hamas used flak vests marked "TV" and even "UN" to murder Israelis.

        The rules of engagement changed after that.
        • CressCrowbits, on 06/24/2008, -3/+4When?
        • Naieve, on 06/24/2008, -3/+9I don't have evidence of that, but I can lead you to video of Hamas using ambulances to stage attacks.
        • Volcanite, on 06/24/2008, -3/+4no evidence of that
          no need to make lies
        • yonoz, on 06/24/2008, -0/+3http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2007/06/13/isrlpa1 ...
          In the June 9 incident, four armed Palestinians drove a white jeep bearing “TV” insignias to a fence on the Gaza-Israel border and fired at Israeli soldiers. The Israelis returned fire, killing one Palestinian. Spokesmen for Islamic Jihad and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, an offshoot of Fatah, claimed responsibility for the attack. An Islamic Jihad spokesperson denied that Palestinians had put press markings on the jeep used in the June 9 attack, and accused the Israeli military of doing so after the fact. However, photos taken by the Associated Press as the attack was under way show the letters “TV” written in red on the front of the jeep.

          “Using a vehicle with press markings to carry out a military attack is a serious violation of the laws of war, and it also puts journalists at risk,” said Whitson.
        • Naieve, on 06/26/2008, -0/+1I couldn't find the original link, but it is show in this video from right winger Malkin.

          http://www.all-encompassingly.com/video-ambulances ...

          Say what you want about her, you can't lie about video.

          As she notes, the UNRWA ambulance used in the attack is from an organization the US has given 2.5 billion to.

          I always wonder why we support the UN. We could just give that money to some decent non-profit charities and do more good.
    • brockpetrie, on 06/24/2008, -2/+4Sorry for the DP, but here's a link to the video I mentioned above. The quality isn't too great, but it should suffice for all you Quakers who shun torrenting.

      Part 1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6285051748 ...
      Part 2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2752846334 ...
      • catcher6250, on 06/25/2008, -0/+3Wow I am watching this video, the girl at 30:15 makes a great point:
        The Israelis are scared.

        Of course they are scared, this is war, they are ages 18-22, young, and they are fighting in urban guerrilla warfare against experienced extremist fighters that keep on keeping on...
    • CoMpUtErITGuY, on 06/24/2008, -15/+7What an idiot for standing in the way. He got what he deserved.
    • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -2/+5And how many "palestinian" terrorists are brought to justice by a "palestinian" system of law for murdering innocent foreigners?
      >.>
      ZERO
      -_-
      That is just ONE of the major differences between the media manufactured "palestinian" people and the good citizens of Israel who are struggling to end the violence while protecting their sovereign country without hiding behind their women and children.
  • WordsnCollision, on 06/23/2008, -77/+40One wonders whether the "constant gauntlet of Israeli sniper fire, military rockets and army bulldozers" will continue once the new truce between Israel and Hamas takes hold and, assumably, the barrage of home-made rockets fired into Israel from Gaza ceases. Basically, if the Palestinians don't want the IDF in their lives, don't provoke it to enter them.
    • FrankHope, on 06/24/2008, -19/+31Like they have a choice. They can either die fighting or just die.
      • Lucas123, on 06/24/2008, -4/+11Israel NEVER once has attacked the Palestinians, except because the Palestianians broke a truce.
        • CressCrowbits, on 06/24/2008, -6/+2Which is complete *****.
        • stfucupcake, on 06/24/2008, -5/+2Yeah, sure. *rolls eyes*
        • beerock, on 06/24/2008, -3/+0AHAAhaha !

          that's adorable, go get your grade 6 and come back for a comment.
        • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -0/+2I love how nobody can give an example to dispute your statement. The only thing they can do is call you names because they know you are 100% correct, sir.
          (8^D
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -0/+3That is just STUPID!
        -_-
        Everyone knows that the day the "palestinians" put down thier guns there there will be peace with Israel.
        The day Israel puts down their guns there will be no more Israel.
        o.o
        And who do you suppose the radical, terrorist will target next?
    • KhanneaNL, on 06/24/2008, -9/+6Whine all you want - but outside Israel the PR war has been lost. Israeli are regarded by the world with apprehension or hate.
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -0/+3Which is still doesn't compare to the utter disgust with which the world regards the blatant lies of "palestinians" suffering while they show news footage of well dressed Gazans quietly sipping coffee and tea at a sidewalk cafe in downtown Gaza.
        -_-
        Even this documentary opens with a team of "palestinian" terrorists launching an unprovoked, indiscriminate attack against Israel.
        >.>
        The more you idiots spread your ridiculous lies the more obvious they become.
        o.o
        Any suffering in Gaza is entirely self-imposed by "palestinians" themselves.
    • beerock, on 06/24/2008, -8/+1WordsnCollision, you get dugg down for referring to yourself in the third person,
      and for being a moron.
    • TheLoneHoot, on 06/24/2008, -4/+3The damned Israelis shouldn't have stolen the Palestinians' land to begin with. I know I sure as hell would be fighting to kick a foreign occupier off my land, be it with rockets or rocks.
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -1/+2That land belonged to the Jewish people THOUSANDS of years before the British called that land "Palestine" during the World Wars.
        -_-
        Read your history, dumbass.
  • Lucas123, on 06/23/2008, -66/+43The killing in Gaza is terrible. The loss of civilian life is horrible, but this is a one-sided report. Let's now look at the suicide bombers, missiles launched without targeting and snipers who also kill Israelis. Israeli's kill 3 Palestinians for every one Isreali killed because they're a better armed and trained army. But this report never asks why Hamas won't discontinue their assault on Israel, even though the retaliation it sparks causes suffering to their own people. Here's a simple solution. Hamas stop your assault on Israel. Allow that tiny, abused nation to live in peace, and you can then rebuild your nation and live in peace.
    • writie, on 06/23/2008, -14/+21Hamas has offered truces before. They have been refused, for political or strategic reasons that didn't really work out. Let's hope both sides want things to work out enough this time.
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -1/+5What truce did Hamas offer to Israel? You mean, the truce they can have that will last until Hamas decides to start attacking again?
        >.>
        Or you mean the peace that they will allow after they drive every Jew into the sea and claim ALL the land as yet another Islamic state?
        -_-
        Sorry, those are not serious offers of peace they are insults.
      • DrDreyfus, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1I'm sorry. I'm reporting you for spreading such blatant lies.
    • trumpydumpy, on 06/24/2008, -12/+31Did you even watch the part of the video where civilians were gathered around the car and the helicopter fired two more missiles into the crowd killing innocent children? And you wonder why they won't discontinue their assault on Israel...
      • whiterice0, on 06/24/2008, -25/+14Lesson learned. Don't gather around cars with terrorists inside who have murdered hundreds Israeli innocent civilians. Another lesson, don't allow your children to throw rocks at bull dozers and armored personnel carriers. This is war.
        • trumpydumpy, on 06/24/2008, -12/+13You are pathetic. Typical American armchair warrior.
        • xs11ax, on 06/24/2008, -5/+4if this is a war, then israel is a warzone, and if the israelis dont like it.......

          THEN GET OUT OF THE WARZONE!
        • stfucupcake, on 06/24/2008, -5/+4Give me a break. According to that thinking, every Palestinian is a terrorist.

          Sorry, I can't hate or demonize an entire people,
      • geoken, on 06/24/2008, -13/+7You're a pathetic excuse for a human being.
        • whiterice0, on 06/24/2008, -12/+7Goeken, I've told you before. Get back on your medication and stop commenting on Digg.
    • martalli, on 06/24/2008, -7/+18"Israeli's kill 3 Palestinians for every one Isreali killed because they're a better armed and trained army."

      It seems more like you are saying is that one Israeli equals less than or equal to 1/3 a Palestinian.

      If the sides were equal in military strength and support, they would have a peace that involved compromise on both sides. I wonder if you are actually advocating the Palestinians have equal weapons...that would mean having nukes, too.
      • Lucas123, on 06/24/2008, -10/+12I'm advocating that if they can keep a single truce they agree to, then you'd have peace. But every time a truce is agreed to the Palestinians break it.
    • Beastmasta, on 06/24/2008, -5/+18Your post is false.

      119 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 982 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.

      1,055 Israelis and at least 4,830 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000.

      8,341 Israelis and 32,744 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000.

      • CoMpUtErITGuY, on 06/24/2008, -5/+2Your source is: http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
      • wpi97, on 06/24/2008, -0/+7In the Pacific theater of WWII 106,207 Americans were killed by the Japanese and over 2 million Japanese were killed by Americans. That is a 20:1 kill ratio. And your conclusions are..?
    • alkajazz, on 06/24/2008, -4/+9Wow you're right. Doing the same thing back is really going to solve the problem right? Pull your head out.
    • KhanneaNL, on 06/24/2008, -7/+3Yep, I don't choose. I HATE BOTH palestinian radicals AS WELL AS the Israeli genocide machine.
    • TheLoneHoot, on 06/24/2008, -5/+4Ever notice when an Israeli soldier is killed, he gets personal coverage as they speak of his life, his hopes and dreams, his friends and family missing him, and the hole left in their lives?

      Ever notice that Palestinian deaths are just faceless numbers?

      Wake up and smell the AIPAC influenced "news" your drinking.
      • foopirata, on 06/24/2008, -3/+5"when an Israeli soldier is killed, he gets personal coverage as they speak of his life, his hopes and dreams, his friends and family missing him, and the hole left in their lives" - in the Israeli press, you mean?

        That's perhaps because we value life more than death, unlike some other people in our neighborhood.
      • monsieurginger, on 06/24/2008, -0/+5In the US, on memorial day, you have "Memorial Day Sale" and most people don't do anything. In Israel a "Memorial Day Sale" is an insult to those who died defending the country. The country has daily reports about kidnapped soldiers (Haaretz.com) while US soldiers are so forgotten in the US media, its like they don't know they are at war.
  • yonoz, on 06/23/2008, -85/+34Anyone looking for an anti-Israeli media bias, this is it.
    • sabroskie, on 06/24/2008, -10/+17The facts hurt like a bitch, don't they?
      • yonoz, on 06/24/2008, -6/+6Which facts - the ones about Palestinians not receiving treatment in Israel, tear gas coming out of an APC's exhaust, shots coming down a street where people are seen to be walking very peacefully, or the unmistakable fact that every single shot fired is from an Israeli gun?
        • dlllb, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1Who's giving the Palestinians these apparent weapons?
    • quesi, on 06/24/2008, -7/+13Compared to the Pro-Israeli media bias found on the television?
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -2/+2What channel are YOU watching? All the major U.S. news networks have a definite sympathy for the "palestinians."
        -_-
        The only network that even comes close to being neutral is Fox News, but if you're a digger you're not very likely to be watching Fox.
        • quesi, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1Fox, neutral? What a friggin joke, that's like saying you are neutral after your over-eager displays of passionate Israel love. We can tell who your allegiance is to... You are a liar, pitlord, just like Fox, just like the rest of the megaphonies you run with. Go away.
    • KhanneaNL, on 06/24/2008, -9/+5/me draws a face and BLLLEEEAAAATS to you.
      Sod of and bleat somewhere else, shill sheep.
    • dlllb, on 06/24/2008, -7/+6I think the Israeli's do a good enough job of making the world hate them without any need for media bias... Which, btw, is biased FOR Israel, not against them.
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -1/+2Did you even WATCH this report? It was definitely ANTI ISRAEL.
        >.>
        For crying out loud, how can you even make that comment in this thread? The entire program (almost an hour long) was an Anti Israel diatribe produced by mainstream British media.
        -_-
        You're just as bad as the "palestinians" complaining about being oppressed by "constant" Israeli attacks while they are on camera, sitting at a sidewalk cafe, quietly sipping coffee with their friends, while families and couples shop at the stores in the background.
        • dlllb, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1I'm fully aware of the content of the video. It was a reply to yonoz which is why it's in this comment thread and not a comment to the actual digg submission. You kinda marched to the beat of your own drum in your reply for some reason...
    • kieranmaine, on 06/24/2008, -5/+4If the video is full of lies go through the video, pick it apart, write up an analysis and submit your article.
      • yonoz, on 06/24/2008, -3/+6kieran, if people can't see the problems with a "report" where every shot fired is Israeli, tear gas comes out of engine exhausts, every Palestinian claim is "fact" while Israeli claims are always preceded by "the Israelis say...", critically wounded are paraded in front of the cameras by their "friends" and family, while no Palestinian violence is shown other than stone throwing, the "reporter" doesn't bother to ask why children are allowed to gather around a burning car while attack helicopters are hovering overhead and to run out in front of armed APCs, nor does she bother to interview any Palestinian militants let alone ask them why they keep firing at Israeli civilians from civilian areas - then I suppose there's no use in me wasting time writing an analysis.
        We have graphic scenes in hospitals too, we have amputated, blind and traumatised children, we have had many good men with good intentions who were defending the innocent from violence die slowly in hospital wards - but we don't make a circus out of these things.
        • TheLoneHoot, on 06/24/2008, -5/+4"...but we don't make a circus out of these things."

          mmmmmeh... I'd say you do a good job of influencing the western media circus.
        • kieranmaine, on 06/25/2008, -1/+1I agree that the video is one sided. However does it misrepresent or edit things to make them appear different to how they occurred though? I'd rather you pick apart any lies that the video portrays, rather than question why the reporter didn't ask militants valid questions.

          In the case of the attack helicopters the question shouldn't be why do children crowd round a burning car (kids always do stupid things) when attack helicopters are over head, it should be, did the helicopter pilots see the large number of people gathered around the car and decide to fire even though it was easy to guess people would be hurt?

          I agree that, sadly, people won't look at events from all sides and research things as much as they should. You should respond to people by saying "check out these resources" instead of trying to justify a helicopter firing into a crowd - or at least that's how it appears in the video - like I said, if you can prove that the video is misrepresenting the actual events, tell everyone.
  • pintomp3, on 06/23/2008, -23/+196we not only condone these policies, we support them by sending israel billions of US taxpayer dollars every year.
    • dkapuchino, on 06/23/2008, -28/+9We use these taxpayer dollars to excersize control of the Israelis. Take away the foreign aid, takeway any influence we have on them. I'd me more interested in asking why we give aid to both egypt and saudi arabia, why both countries have F-16 fighter jets, when all the attackers of 9/11 came from those two countries.
      • flogistan, on 06/24/2008, -3/+8Which brings us back to why 9/11 even happened in the frirst place. Our support of israel goes a long way to explaining that.
      • dlllb, on 06/24/2008, -3/+2Your propaganda amazes me, dkapuchino...
      • sodade, on 06/24/2008, -1/+2? Why was this dugg down?
        • dlllb, on 06/25/2008, -1/+1Because he still believes foreign militants hi-jacked some planes and flew them into the WTC... At least thats why I dugg him down.
    • jabberwolf, on 06/24/2008, -24/+6Because USA knows who their friends are.. and knows who are the people who'd strap bombs onto children and try to kill israelis AS WELL AS Americans whenever they can.

      Can we take away the aid from Jordon and Egypt as well? They pretty much take as much as Israel does and they dont do a ***** thing for the USA!
      • flogistan, on 06/24/2008, -3/+16Actually, they give us oil. It's israel that really truly does not do one thing for the USA, and has nothing of value to offer us whatsoever, and offers us nothing but infinite and endless headaches with the people who actually have the oil. There is no reason for us to have a foreign policy that favors israel, but iran and saudi arabia? Now they can help us out.
        • bratterscain, on 06/24/2008, -2/+2Because our politicians' saviour was born to a virgin and called that place home for some time while he did magic on people. If it weren't for him, they wouldn't be so holy and would wind up going underground when they die to have their butt continually poked by a horned beast. And so you can see how rationality plays a part in American politics.
        • flogistan, on 06/24/2008, -4/+3Man, you people really do hate jusus. :)
      • yellowcakewalk, on 06/24/2008, -3/+12Remember: the yearly bribe to the Egyptian dictatorship, as arranged at Camp David in 1979, is to keep 50 million pissed off Egyptians off your Israeli asses. Go back and review your history. I'd say "your welcome", but I'd really rather have my tax dollars back.
        • CoMpUtErITGuY, on 06/24/2008, -2/+3Yea, Israel would kick Egypt's ass.
      • SquigglyP, on 06/24/2008, -2/+6You're fooling yourself. The reason we support them is because of WW2 and the monumental ***** made on religious grounds where we forced the Palestinians out of their homes and turned them into refugees without a country in order to fulfill biblical prophecy and have jews controling Israel. It was a purely religious decision.

        So why do you think they hate the jews and the US? Because we're rich and they're jealous? Or maybe is it because we made them all homeless and destroyed their lives?

        Oh wait, I'm sorry... is it unamerican of me to point out flaws or mistakes that the US has made in the past? Gee, I'm sorry. I take it all back. The US is a perfect country and never screws anything up, because we're the most important country on the planet, and no other country matters at all. It's not like they're all humans like us. They're all lesser people. ***** 'em. Right?

        To be perfectly clear, I'm not antisemitic. I just don't see why the US wastes it's time supporting an 'ally' that doesn't seem to really do much for us, nor support us when we need it. They just make demands of us for aid and money. That's about all they do. Time Israel learned to sink or swim on it's own, don't you think?
        • flogistan, on 06/24/2008, -2/+1No, it was a zionist decision , and had nothing to do with christianity. It seems that way now because they've sold it to a bunch of evangelicals that way. It didn't happen in WWII, it happened in 1919 with the balfour declaration, and even before that. They had been moving there and stealing the land since 1880 and funded by extremely wealthy international financiers not long after that. It wasn't purely religious, it was purely secular zionist. You really need to look into it and stop repeating that bull, because it's tired old WWII propagand whose shelf life expired long ago.
        • seandaly, on 06/24/2008, -2/+5Squiggly, you're partially right, Flogistan, you're partially wrong.

          Yes, the zionist movement was already moving by the late 1800's. Honestly, the Jews have been wanting that land back for thousands of years.

          There had been mass migrations by Jews back to the land throughout the late 1800's and early 1900's. The mandate of Palestine, which had far less land (transjordan), was only one of the first official steps, yet it ended in 1948, followed by the fast-tracked drive of declaring their independence.

          It was really the UN that carved up the land into one Arab and one Jewish states. The Arabs never accepted the plan, yet Israel proclaimed statehood anyway right before the British Mandate expired.

          The fact is, while the ball was in motion way before WWII, it was the atrocities of the holocaust now known by the world that had given the Jews the public support (or compassion) that they needed to put the proverbial nail in the coffin. The war that followed saw most Arabs that remained flee the land and the landscape that followed had Jordan and Egypt controlling the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

          The fact is, the manner in which world leaders at the time allowed Israel to be formed is complete *****! When an accord that also met the Arab league's requirements could not be found, instead of coming back to the table with more appreciable plan, the Jews took it upon to seize the opportunity, exploit the newfound world compassion due to the Holocaust and essentially steal the land for themselves.

          There will NEVER be peace in that area. As long as the land remains the #1 priority of Zionists and as long as there are Muslims (Arabs really) who hate Israel, this will go on forever.

          I honestly feel bad for the Arabs in that area. At least 60 years ago, they might have been fighting, but it was more of a level playing field. Years of support
        • seandaly, on 06/24/2008, -2/+3(timer ran out)

          Squiggly, you're partially right, Flogistan, you're partially wrong.

          Yes, the zionist movement was already moving by the late 1800's. Honestly, the Jews have been wanting that land back for thousands of years.

          There had been mass migrations by Jews back to the land throughout the late 1800's and early 1900's. The mandate of Palestine, which had far less land (transjordan), was only one of the first official steps, yet it ended in 1948, followed by the fast-tracked drive of declaring their independence.

          It was really the UN that carved up the land into one Arab and one Jewish states. The Arabs never accepted the plan, yet Israel proclaimed statehood anyway right before the British Mandate expired.

          The fact is, while the ball was in motion way before WWII, it was the atrocities of the holocaust now known by the world that had given the Jews the public support (or compassion) that they needed to put the proverbial nail in the coffin. The war that followed saw most Arabs that remained flee the land and the landscape that followed had Jordan and Egypt controlling the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

          The fact is, the manner in which world leaders at the time allowed Israel to be formed is complete *****! When an accord that also met the Arab league's requirements could not be found, instead of coming back to the table with more appreciable plan, the Jews took it upon to seize the opportunity, exploit the newfound world compassion due to the Holocaust and essentially steal the land for themselves.

          There will NEVER be peace in that area. As long as the land remains the #1 priority of Zionists and as long as there are Muslims (Arabs really) who hate Israel, this will go on forever.

          I honestly feel bad for the Arabs in that area. At least 60 years ago, they might have been fighting, but it was more of a level playing field. Years of unfettered financial, political and military support from the west has seen Israel turn into an insanely aggressive and preemptive force. We consider them terrorists because of the way they attack, who they target and the weapons and strategies that they use.

          Wouldn't any group of people, not having the access to the finances, weapons and other resources, ultimately succumb to attacking in such a way that their limited resources could have the most effect? I mean, other than surrendering to your enemy, what other choice do you have?

          I guess what I'm saying is, I think any of us, American or not, could be labeled terrorists if we were in a similar situation. Perception is everything!

          This will end when Israel goes to far and another Nuclear Arab state decides to retaliate and in the end, the land won't be habitable by Arabs or Jews, only Cockroaches.
    • steveoco, on 06/24/2008, -6/+10We? Maybe rephrase as we American's... because not everyone here is American.
    • LemonDefragger, on 06/24/2008, -4/+3And no matter who we (Americans) vote for, we'll continue to condone these actions. Foreign lobbies FTL.
      • 3ugene, on 06/24/2008, -1/+1There was Ron Paul and there currently are two 3rd Party candidates that I believe would end these actions, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin. Time to start thinking outside the two party box America.
    • sodade, on 06/24/2008, -1/+4If you think about it, the US basically used Israel as a pawn. We (along with the Brits, etc) "gave" them land in the middle of a bunch of Arab oil fields and when the Arabs tried to get rid of them, we pumped them up with our war machine. They were a client state fighting our war for us to keep a foothold in the ME where all the cheap oil is. The question is: has the pawn become a queen?
      Either way, in the US/Israeli relationship, someone is getting ***** hard.
  • WESTEE, on 06/23/2008, -70/+27wtf honestly this is seriously pissing me off wtf is with all the anti-Israel BS these people have taken so much ***** through the history of the world, why don't you just leave the ***** jews alone
    • dkapuchino, on 06/23/2008, -32/+11Because they are Jews. On one hand, Israel has supplied the jews with a safe haven from prosecution around the world. On the other hand, it has provided the anti-semites with a new "legitimate" target. "We aren't anti-semitic, we're anti Israeli".
    • sirhomer, on 06/24/2008, -34/+11I wish I could digg you twice.
      • maxmccabe, on 06/24/2008, -3/+2Did you not watch the video you ***** idiot?
        That is the reason why, its not anti-semitic, if any organised group of people indiscriminately kill civilians then it is wrong.
        And you would have thought that those living in the Jewish occupants Israel would know that.
        • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -3/+2That's the point, dumbass!
          ><
          We DID watch the ***** video and it is SO obvious how full of lies and omissions it is, that it is making us sick to see idiots actually digging this and believing it because they are too ignorant to know any better.
        • waspbr, on 06/25/2008, -1/+1Sure then the international demonstrators were gunmen now... yeah sure...
          Just because you believe the propaganda they feed you doesn't mean it is true...
    • WESTEE, on 06/24/2008, -28/+7lol thanks man, just tryin to say it like it is, the jews have put up with soo much bull *****
    • swrostmore, on 06/24/2008, -10/+32Any video tape taken in Gaza is "anti-israel BS?" I take it you think there should be a total media blackout?
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -3/+2We are talking about THIS edited program not "any video tape taken in Gaza."
        -_-
    • trumpydumpy, on 06/24/2008, -9/+43Right, the jews have gone through so much so that means they should be allowed to kill innocent civilians and bulldoze their houses, we should just leave them alone.
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -3/+2The Jews were bulldozing the abandoned Jewish settlements that were left behind when the IDF drove the Jews out of Gaza to give the "palestinians" MORE land in exchange for a "peace" that never came.
        -_-
    • martalli, on 06/24/2008, -4/+35Anyone can find oppression in their background. It is no excuse for immorality.
    • WESTEE, on 06/24/2008, -24/+3show me one piece of history where we slaughter innocent white people, when they didnt deserve it
      • waspbr, on 06/24/2008, -3/+12white people? does it matter the colour of whom you are slaughtering, does that make it any less wrong? You are one racist bastard
      • quesi, on 06/24/2008, -3/+5Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq.
        • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -0/+3WTF are you talking about?
          -_-
          Name ONE Jew who "slaughtered" ANYBODY in ANY of those wars.
        • quesi, on 06/25/2008, -1/+1WTF are you talking
          about? OH! By "we" he was talking about Jews?

          "Name ONE Jew who "slaughtered" ANYBODY in ANY of those wars."

          He didn't say that, start at the top of this thread and cool your jets, oh ye defender of the "Jews" whether they need defense or not.

          Martalli-
          "Anyone can find oppression in their background. It is no excuse for immorality."

          Westee-
          "show me one piece of history where we slaughter innocent white people, when they didnt deserve it"

          So I pointed out the numerous pieces of history where we slaughtered innocent white people when they didn't deserve it.

          follow along and chill out
    • n0t0kayipr0mis3, on 06/24/2008, -0/+8No matter what group of people you're defending, you can't just let them go unnoticed. You can't just shroud them for acts considered heinous by many i.e. the doc. , both sides have major faults (muslim/palestine and isreali/jewish)
    • WESTEE, on 06/24/2008, -14/+1So were just going to over look all the Americans do because what? you are one? so lets just gang up on Israel and pretend the problem is there ya it makes sense, now lets all hop on the bandwagon and digg me down cause i have a different opinion
      • revisrev, on 06/24/2008, -1/+9I don't think we should overlook anything. Let's examine the evils done by men of all nations, and then speak out against them. Let's make this clear. Suicide bombing: evil. Attacking unarmed civilians: evil. Defending the attacks on unarmed people because the attackers are of a race that has been persecuted repeatedly throughout history: Ignorant.

        I don't think that anybody defends the actions of the suicide bombers. I think that if you view the two groups as equals, then an objective mind would say that the Palestinians are doing what people backed into a corner end up doing, and that the Israelis are doing what an apartheid government does.

        Do you know who doesn't leave Israel alone about this? Israelis. There are plenty of Israelis that speak out about these humanitarian issues, but, it seems that if you're not from Israel and you disagree with their actions then you get labeled an Anti-Semite. The worst thing about this labeling is that there are Anti-Semites out there, and throwing the word around weakens what it really means. Speaking critically about Israeli government policy toward Palestinians does not make you an Anti-Semite. Pointing out that there is a Strong Pro-Israeli Lobby (which isn't a bad thing, unless we're forbidden from talking about it openly) within the United States does not make you an Anti-Semite. Hating Jewish people makes you an Anti-Semite. Calling people Anti-Semites because they disagree with you, or bring up touchy subjects makes you a coward.
        • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -1/+1"There are plenty of Israelis that speak out about these humanitarian issues, but, it seems that if you're not from Israel and you disagree with their actions then you get labeled an Anti-Semite."

          Yet, this film implies that all Israelis ever do is murder innocent "palestinians."
          >.>
          It is ironic that we don't see "palestinian" people speaking out against the humanitarian crimes of their own government, Hamas. In fact, it has become fashionable to blame the Israelis for ALL of the problems in Gaza while the world considers the "palestinians" in Gaza as "victims."
        • waspbr, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1Yes, pointing fingers always makes whatever you are doing right...
          when Israel starts behaving, then it will have the right to complain, till this point they both sides are wrong. Though in the same way that not all Israeli people support their government action, not all palestinians support violence, actually just a minority does. However if the situation keep going like this, then I woudn't be surprised if the minority of violent factions starts to grow.
    • KhanneaNL, on 06/24/2008, -3/+4One should almost think they are bringing this upon themselves.

      I am sorry, you lost the PR war. Some stray far right US christians left supporting you, for their own ends (they hope you will recognize Jebus as your savior so they can endure in their religious psychosis) but for the rest the Israeli lobby HAS LOST the publicity struggle miserably. And what do the remaining shills do?

      Invoke pope innocentius until we all die of boredom. Sod off with the "antisemite" mantra.
    • sigg14, on 06/24/2008, -2/+1Israel = zionists jews = religion

      not the same group of people however the zionists hide behind the cover of being jews
  • ghaib, on 06/23/2008, -27/+114We won't leave the Israelis alone because they're killing thousands of innocent civilians and occupying hundreds of thousands and have displaced millions.

    We won't leave them alone for he same reason we didn't leave the Nazi's alone.
    • monsieurginger, on 06/23/2008, -27/+14Actually, the US did leave the Nazis alone for quite some time. The US also left Sudan and Darfur alone as well. The West also left the Chinese and much of dictatorship regimes in the Middle East alone. What happens in Gaza is nothing compared to any of the places I just mentioned and is in a whole different class of it self. If Hamas didn't try to kill every Jew (google Hamas charter) in Israel, things would be much different.
      • writie, on 06/23/2008, -1/+13There was an occupation before Hamas, which came about as a result of the occupation not the other way round. Besides, they can't remove the roadblocks in the West Bank, let alone remove Israel from the map.
      • sm678, on 06/24/2008, -1/+2and the occupation came about because of violence coming from the territories which came about because they were made into refugees by israel's creation which came about....and on we go. The bottom line is both sides need to work actively to reduce violence. Looking at this from one side only is beyond pointless.
        • writie, on 06/24/2008, -0/+1Maybe the current round of truce and negotiations will get somewhere.
    • dkapuchino, on 06/23/2008, -32/+13More palestinians die every year from car accidents or from Internal battles. The comparison to the Nazi's is plain wrong. The Nazi had a racist agenda of genocide. Israel has only one goal - to live in peace, without having your women and children blown up by suicide bombers and rockets.
      • geoken, on 06/24/2008, -4/+23Don't you think killing 5 children for every 1 'terrorist' is a horrible way of achieving that goal?
      • martalli, on 06/24/2008, -3/+6Really, if one Israeli death leads to 3 or more Palestinian deaths, why shouldn't the Palestinians follow the same policy? Would that be wrong? Of course it would.
      • nycmac247, on 06/24/2008, -3/+5"has only one goal - to live in peace"
        a balanced view would say _some_ good things and _some_ bad things about each side.
        Can you please tell me the things Israel has done wrong and that the Palestinians have done right?
        • ThatGeek, on 06/24/2008, -3/+7Israel has stolen the middle easts land, for one
    • hotlatte, on 06/24/2008, -25/+4Please, ghaib, go back on your medication.
    • sm678, on 06/24/2008, -18/+10you've lost touch - a comparison of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the Nazi Holocaust is simply sensationalist and off the mark
      • DrHoliday, on 06/24/2008, -7/+7Or you're too blinded by your pro-Israeli views that you can't see the truth before you. Much like the Germans as they watched the Jews march to their deaths - they, like you do - know, but are too emotionally distant or unwilling from the fact to realize it.

      • sm678, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1i guess i missed the part of the holocaust where the jews killed numerous german civilians, thereby creating a two-sided conflict. Actually I guess that didn't happen....go figure. I'm not asking you to root for israel at all - rather simply to view this conflict as it is; a conflict with more than one angle. It's possible to be both pro-israel and pro-palestinian - It's too bad you've been too brainwashed by sensationalist videos to realize it.
    • yattias, on 06/24/2008, -19/+6you just simply don't know what you are talking about do you ghaib? Don't make this comparison.
    • KhanneaNL, on 06/24/2008, -5/+17It is odd, but when I talk of comparing Israeli atrocities and comparing them to nazi atrocities, everyone in my area agrees and clearly sees the similarity.

      So apart from a handful of Israeli shills endlessly using the same arguments *antisemite!* over and over and over and over and over for several decades now, I think Israel disastrously lost the PR war over this.

      And I was all in favor if Israel in the 80s. Not any more. I think they are heroin junkies, addicted to lashing out with death.
      • Meep3D, on 06/24/2008, -4/+2Truth is not a product of consensus.
        • stfucupcake, on 06/24/2008, -0/+2Your comment does not discredit his point.

          The king has no clothes. The only ones that can't see it are the people defending him.
    • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -1/+1You Muslims were FRIENDS with the friggin Nazis and did and still DO everything you could to KILL and MURDER Jews as they were returning to their homeland.
      -_-
      Your Grand Mufti was a great fan of Adolph Hitler.
  • davidhallstrom, on 06/23/2008, -44/+12Maybe if the people in Gaza stopped helping and cooperating with the terrorist group Hamas things would get better for them. I still remember the news shots of thousands of people in Gaza celebrating and cheering on 9/11. And please don't forget about the constant rocket attacks on Israel coming out of Gaza. If anyone is to blame for what's going on there it's the people and their chosen leaders Hamas.
    • writie, on 06/23/2008, -2/+11Terrorist activity has all but stopped in the West Bank, but things haven't improved much there. It will only improve when both sides need it to improve very badly. And I'd say we're getting close to that point.
    • DrHoliday, on 06/24/2008, -4/+11You think that little kid who was riding his bicycle was aiding terrorists?

      Surely he deserved it!

      You disgust me.
  • bigp3rm, on 06/23/2008, -23/+144I like to think that I'm a man by all of it's definition. Watching this documentary made me cry several times. I was frightened, saddened and outraged by the truth in this show. The IDF kills and then lies about it's actions. As it was clearly, and accurately displayed for those of us who watched it.

    I cannot image the true horrors the Palestinians live and see every minute of every day of every night. My heart and prayers goes out to you, the people of Palestine.
    • whiterice0, on 06/24/2008, -51/+10Are you friggin kidding me? Reality check!
      • kolinkoolface2, on 06/24/2008, -18/+4hahahahahahahaha well played sir.
      • DrHoliday, on 06/24/2008, -3/+15Ok. You're a moron.
      • bigp3rm, on 06/24/2008, -4/+18I am a 38 years old and would be happy to meet you for any kind you reality check you think is necessary. These people, these men, these women, these children are being murdered. I invite you to visit to witness it. I plan to be there in my lifetime.

        I have Jewish friends here in the states and they can not understand how the nation of Israel can commit such crimes. Even get away with it in the worlds eyes.
    • colem, on 06/24/2008, -0/+7Ask yourself why a logical person would attack another person.
    • ogisdan, on 06/24/2008, -22/+1you cried?.....grow up.
  • Ciryon, on 06/23/2008, -32/+131Thanks for submitting this. Saw it once before and been looking for it ever since. You HAVE to see this video, it's ***** disgusting. I can not believe how the zionist masters in Israel can live with themselves. This is what Obama supports - yes indeed. Digg me down I don't care, it's still the truth.
    • sm678, on 06/24/2008, -19/+10Zionist masters? What fantasy (and i mean the fantasy genre) do you think we live in? This is a complicated, multi-faceted, dispute that has it's base rooted in religious differences and has problems that reflect every idea and generation from then until the 21st century. It's not a simple good vs. evil with a grand battle at the end! I'm sorry but there are no wizards (excuse me, zionist masters) in the real world. Wake up and smell the difficulties of modern day foreign relations and look up to a candidate who is willing to legitimize the reality that we have to solve this problem with compromise.
    • bepart, on 06/24/2008, -7/+24unfortunately in order to get elected Obama must pledge support for Israel, but I do believe at heart he sympathizes with the Palestinians, he once said "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people"
      • etgryphon, on 06/24/2008, -2/+3So the ends justify the means? Whatever happened to doing what is right? It is a very sad commentary on the US when we have to choose between Obama and McCain. Two men who will say whatever they need to get elected.

        Wake up America! Grow some balls! Demand change from the government not just talk about it.
        • winampman2, on 06/24/2008, -0/+2Unfortunately the reality is that they have to say those things, or else they won't get elected. Simple as that. If you had to say those things in order to get a $100,000 salary raise, you would say it too.
    • drunkinbda, on 06/24/2008, -4/+2lol i wish more people would post things like ciryon in place of "omg sooooo old wtf this has been out since 1872 and its a dup..here's the link gaaaaaaaaaaaah" etc etc
    • catcher6250, on 06/25/2008, -0/+1What the hell???? I watched the video and I didn't get that interpretation at all.

      The paramilitary of Gaza is obviously the cause behind this whole problem. There is a scene showing the brainwashing of little Achmed into becoming the perfect little terrorist. The leader of the terrorist group admits that there are thousands of little kids just like Achmed. They use the little boy as a lookout at night. The paramilitants have convinced every palestinian boy it seems that dying is a good thing, just as good as killing an Israeli.

      The problem comes down to the fact that the Palestinians in the Gaza area keep fighting Israel. All they have to do is congregate with them. These extremists want their own state, and this is clearly not going happen. But these extremists have managed to blend religion with war, and now there seems to be no hope.
  • Carl306, on 06/24/2008, -14/+49This seems like killing just for the sake of killing, which as we all know, never solves anything. This goes for both sides...
    • girwen, on 06/24/2008, -7/+15 Hezbollah and Hamas are both terrorist organizations and should be condemned for many of their activities. They have gained support and power out of the desperation of the Palestinian people following something like 41 years of illegal occupation of their territory by the Israel government. The rocket attacks on Israel must come to an end.
      That said, the disproportionate retaliation by the Israeli government is nothing but revenge killing. There is unconditional support from American government (on both sides of the aisle). The love affair between the US news media and the Israeli government is worse. You find perhaps 1000 pages of criticism of Israeli policy printed in Israel for every paragraph printed in the US.
      • sodade, on 06/24/2008, -0/+2"You find perhaps 1000 pages of criticism of Israeli policy printed in Israel for every paragraph printed in the US."

        I'd love to read that - there is no more truthful a condemnation when it comes from yourself.
  • whiterice0, on 06/24/2008, -61/+26This is now the fourth anti-Israeli story to post in the last two days. Again, what is going on here? Is David Duke and the neo-Nazi party running this site, or what? Enough with the anti-Israel stories, no one's buying the extremist propoganda. It's nothing more than a circle jerk among left wingnuts who believe the Palestinians are persecuted, while the Israelis assert their power over them. The truth: Palestians and other Arabs have mercilously attacked Israel over and over and over since its re-establishment in 1948 - after 6 million Jews were murdered out of sheer bigotry and hatred. Now our left wingnuts are trying to reassert the old persecution. Go find another site, you bunch of hateful bigots.
    • plimpton777, on 06/24/2008, -19/+40You're right, the Holocaust gives Israelis a free pass to treat the Palestinians as inhumanely as they please without criticism.
      • whiterice0, on 06/24/2008, -16/+14No Palestinian attacks give them the right to defend themselves the only way they can -- by cracking down on the population allowing those attacks to occur out of their homes.
      • jabberwolf, on 06/24/2008, -15/+16The Holocaust was real.
        The Palestinians provoke attack, send their kids to be blown up, and teach their kids hate with cartoons... sick bastards.
        They WANT a Holocaust because their pride and shame is too great, so they would wish it upon their children and use the word Holocaust, but they seriously know nothing of what real horror is and what Israel COULD do to them if they really wanted to.

        The Palestinians try to rewrite old maps and make up history as if they had a nation and include numbers of populations and crops that include ALL OF JORDON to fake their pride.


        DID YOU NOT FORGRT THAT ISRAEL PULLED OUT ITS OWN SETTLERS FROM GAZA FOR THE PALESTINIANS AND THEY PALESTINIANS USED THIS TO FIRE ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL!!!?
        • aghati, on 06/24/2008, -11/+2did you forget that just last week Israel announced building new settlements in Western Jerusalem!!!?

          The Nazi holocaust was wrong, everybody is against it. Same is the slaughtering of Palestinians by Israeli soldiers. Both are wrong.
        • WeeJumbo, on 06/24/2008, -8/+2As much as I'm sure that there are some Palestinian parents that teach their children to hate, there are Israeli parents that teach their children to hate as well.

          In the city of Hebron, Palestinian children are routinely escorted to school by international volunteers because Israeli children will throw rocks at them... while their parents stand behind them and watch.

          There are wrongs being done on both sides...
    • dserfaty, on 06/24/2008, -11/+14British news are known for their anti-Israel bias. Most of those articles and documentaries are from the UK, especially the BBC. They never wonder why the gazans and the palestinians got into that situation in the first place. Same goes for every tentative to boycott Israeli Universities, which is the most stupid ***** thing to do. Where do they all come from? The UK. Who cares, just bury it.
      • stonedthot, on 06/24/2008, -11/+3Or maybe British media is unbias and American news is bias why we would we have some random love of palestinians over israelis? Unless we looked at the situation objectively and came to the conclusion that perhaps the palestinians are getting a pretty ***** raw deal....
        And they got into the situation because the British let Israel be formed on Palestinian land (at the time under British control) due to their sympathy over the holocaust. Europeans came from Asia and the middle East, and in turn Africa, doesn't mean we can just go back and say "Hey we used to live here, give us it back and ***** off or we'll shoot you" Though we did do a pretty good job of that for a while.
      • maxmccabe, on 06/24/2008, -10/+3The BBC is one of the most reputable media sources in the world.
        Unfortunately for you 'Fox News' isn't.
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -0/+4That's because if anyone looks closely enough they will see the Brit's dirty hands all over this story. They were responsible for resettling the Jews there after WWII, except they didn't like the Jews either and there are several instances where British Navy would blow up boats full of Jewish refugees sailing into Israel from the German death camps.
        -_-
        British soldiers would give weapons to Arab and Muslim fighters and turn the other way when they would massacre innocent Jews who had just gotten off the boat or begun building a new community.
        >.>
        Now that the U.K. is being over run by Muslims the flames of Jew hatred are being fanned to a roaring fire in "jolly old" England.
    • nycmac247, on 06/24/2008, -16/+56 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered6 million Jews were murdered

      now put a shotgun in my mouth and pull the trigger b/c I am an "animal" to you


      • aghati, on 06/24/2008, -9/+0does that mean you can migrate 3 million jews from Russia, Lithuania, other parts of Europe, Asia and Africa to Palestine and make a new country for them there regardless of the natives who have been already living there?
        • neko6, on 06/24/2008, -1/+9There's no such thing as "natives".
          Besides, if a million Muslims move into London, is it OK for English to kill them for it? Are Jews not allowed to migrate?
          The Palestinians got two countries - they wanted three. They lost. End of story, now stop bombing Israel and live in peace dammit.
    • colem, on 06/24/2008, -10/+16Obviously Digg is an incubator for a spike in anti-semitism. The combination of being anonymous, hateful and easily swayed by propoganda (sheep) makes for a newly rekindled hope for a new Holocaust.

      That's what this is. You are witnessing how something like the Holocaust actually happens. Just from the people on Digg, you can see how a group of supposedly intelligent people can be influenced by propoganda into hating Jews so much that watching another Holocaust would be welcomed by many.

      It won't work this time though. Not this time. Not ever.
      • Rikkochet, on 06/24/2008, -12/+2Sort of like the lead-in to a holocaust against the Gazans, eh?
        Try new logic, yours is too easily twisted for either side.
        • neko6, on 06/24/2008, -2/+106,000,000, dead Jews in 5 years, all innocent.
          6,000 dead Palestinians in 60 years, more than half active militants, attempted several genocides (1834, 1923, 1929, 1948... ) before the occupation started.

          If what Israel does to the Palestinians is a holocaust, what Britain did to Germany is 1,000 holocausts.
      • stonedthot, on 06/24/2008, -10/+3Israel shouldn't shoot unarmed civilians = I hate all jews and want a new holocaust... Um yeah good logic mate
        • neko6, on 06/24/2008, -2/+8Israel doesn't shoot unarmed civilians - thats exactly his point. Saying they are is defamation, which is illegal for a good reason (holocaust being a good example of how defamation can kill).
        • stonedthot, on 06/24/2008, -7/+1Oh so the British and American journalists that have been killed were secretly carrying Kalashnikovs were they? And all those kids were weilding tiny little RPGs were they? And the report which clearly shows an Israeli helicopter opening fire on an unarmed crowd is what? Faked by a British journalist for some weird conspiracy? Stop being so ***** blind...

          And also the holocaust was a terrible travesty and I would gladly have given my life fighting in WW2 to take down the NAZI regime and stop that terrible event. But I am getting seriously ***** sick of Israelis bringing it up to justify every action and start claiming anything said that is in anyway negative about Israel is anti-semitism.... I am not an anti-semite and... THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ***** HOLOCAUST.

      • maxmccabe, on 06/24/2008, -10/+3seriously, what the ***** are you talking about?
        watch the video and see why people are feeling how they are, if Israel was full of catholics doing the same thing it would provoke the exact same reaction.
    • PATSCRU, on 06/24/2008, -12/+6Disagreeing with Israeli war crimes IS NOT anti-semitism. It is anti-violence, anti-civilian casualties, and anti-occupation.
      • neko6, on 06/24/2008, -3/+9Ignoring Palestinian war crimes while bashing Israel for lesser retaliation is obviously a result of bigotry, no other explanation.
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -1/+1How does a biased propaganda piece obviously edited to omit the Israeli side of the stories be evidence of "war crimes?"
        >.>
        How can Jews be "occupying" land that belonged to them THOUSANDS of years before "Palestine" existed?
    • sodade, on 06/24/2008, -9/+1Gee - think it has anything to do with the fact that the US is being pulled into a war with Iran?
      • pitlord, on 06/24/2008, -1/+1How can the U.S. be "pulled" into a war that they are creating themselves? America has been pushing Iran to end their nuclear weapons program for decades.
        -_-
        Of course, idiots like you want to blame Jews for EVERYTHING. What's wrong, did your right hand leave you for a Jewish boy?
  • JaXaL, on 06/24/2008, -42/+3This so called journalist is obviously biased. Anyone with 'Jordan' in her name cannot be trusted to report fairly on this issue. Infact, i think she probably was the one who shot all those people.

    The things people do to appear on tv.
  • unpolloloco, on 06/24/2008, -22/+48Both sides are trying to wipe each other out, and innocent civilians are getting killed on both sides. Why not, instead of just taking sides, we come up with a SOLUTION to the problem instead of further exacerbating it?
    • WaxenPith, on 06/24/2008, -11/+52They are NOT "trying to wipe each other out" ISRAEL rests on STOLEN ***** LAND.

      Take a history class, goddamnit.
      • whiterice0, on 06/24/2008, -29/+6Take a good look left wingers, this is what you spawn. A hateful moron who has never read a history book in his life.
      • Pake, on 06/24/2008, -12/+17Stolen land? Who stole who's land first? Was it not the Palestinians who first stole from the Ottoman Empire? Can we not continuously go back and point to different groups stealing that same piece of land from each other? You want a history lesson, then go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#History

        Read up and research, but hopefully you'll gain a bit of intelligence and realize just how much ***** it is to claim either side owns that land.
        • yellowcakewalk, on 06/24/2008, -5/+7Oh give me a break. Arabs lived in Palestine for a thousand years when the Eastern Europeans started showing up. Your mythology is easily dispelled.
        • LivingMachine, on 06/24/2008, -4/+5Territory belongs to those who can defend it.
        • solid12345, on 06/24/2008, -2/+6That is a lie yellowcake, Arabs invaded the Levant after Muhammed and Islam, before the land was settled by mostly Jews, Greeks, and Phoenicians.

          Why is it the Palestinians cannot find any art or vases with Arabic script on them post-6th century in the area?
      • fuzzmeister, on 06/24/2008, -0/+4But to expect the Israelis just to admit that and go away is absurdly naive. Thus, it is quite true that each side is just trying to push the other out.
    • pintomp3, on 06/24/2008, -0/+15actually most palestinians and israelis just want to live in peace. it's the extremists and hardliners who take such an aggressive stance. it's sad that they are the ones in power.
      • neko6, on 06/24/2008, -3/+2Current Israeli leadership is not a hardliner, they offered withdrawals and peace agreements, that the Arab leaders refuse to accept.
    • winampman2, on 06/24/2008, -1/+3The problem is that there is no solution. Palestinians want Israel to leave the land (supported by Iran), and Israel absolutely will not leave (supported by the US). The only way to compromise is if Palestinians somehow accept Israel's ri